Cubs' Winning Streak Ends At Seven; Reds Win 8-7
I've been trying to resist writing
"All good things must end"
... but I'm failing. So: indeed, all good things must end, and one of those good things, the Cubs' seven-game winning streak, ended at the hands of the Cincinnati Reds on Sunday. The Reds came from behind in the eighth inning and beat the Cubs 8-7.
This game was winnable. And it turned on several odd and weird plays.
- Tony Campana was called out at first base after beating out a routine ground ball to shortstop. (Replays appeared to confirm he was safe.) This was umpire Doug Eddings' call; he's one of the umpires I called out recently, and it looked like an "anticipation" play, in other words, the hitter hit a routine grounder to short, so he must be out. Unfortunately for Eddings, Campana can beat those out. It might have resulted in more runs in the Cubs' third, when they took a 2-1 lead on a "double" bit by Marlon Byrd, which was actually a routine fly ball dropped by Drew Stubbs in center field.
- Randy Wells was getting out of the fourth inning, when he allowed a two-run homer to Todd Frazier, when he wild-pitched in a third run, allowing the Reds to take a 4-3 lead.
- Reds rookie outfielder Dave Sappelt, making his major league debut, made an outstanding diving catch on a Geovany Soto sinking liner in the left field corner. If that gets by Sappelt, even the slow Geo might have wound up on third base.
- A ball stuck in the ivy as Sappelt -- who had never been to Wrigley Field before -- alertly held up his arms on Byrd's drive in the seventh. Byrd, Starlin Castro and Aramis Ramirez had all circled the bases, but Byrd and A-Ram had to go back on the ground-rule double. Ramirez later scored on a wild pitch, making it 7-6 Cubs, but Byrd was stranded, and that run turned out to be critical.
- Maybe we can blame Paul McCartney for this one. Byrd slipped and fell, taking a divot out of the center-field turf, after calling Castro off a popup. That wound up being a leadoff double for Joey Votto off Sean Marshall, and the Reds cashed that into the decisive three-run rally in the eighth inning.
So it was an entertaining game, but another long one: three hours and sixteen minutes and 312 pitches thrown, five walks issued by Cubs pitchers, four by Reds pitchers and what seemed like endless 3-2 counts on batters that resulted in strikeouts. At one point, six straight batters (the entire bottom of the eighth and top of the ninth) struck out, all swinging.
And while I'm at it, let me post my obligatory Mike Quade Criticism Of The Day. After Marshall gave up that gift double, he struck out Jay Bruce. Jeff Samardzija was warmed up and ready in the Reds' bullpen, and the next three hitters -- Todd Frazier (who had already homered), Stubbs (who has a lifetime SLG of .582 in Wrigley Field) and Ryan Hanigan -- are all righthanded. Granted, Marshall can get righthanded hitters out, but in that situation, why leave him in? And especially, why leave him in after Frazier hits a rope down the line to tie the game? Marshall clearly didn't have it on Sunday and by the time Quade did eventually get him out of there, Hanigan had singled in the lead run. It would have been worse if Samardzija hadn't induced a 5-2-3 double play to end the inning.
And then the game was left to Aroldis Chapman, who throws really, really, really, really fast. Several of his pitches registered 101 or 102 on Wrigley's pitch speed meter and Jeff Baker, Darwin Barney and Castro (who earlier had hit his second home run in the last week) really had no chance. Campana, Ramirez and Carlos Pena went out meekly to Francisco Cordero and the winning streak was history.
It was fun while it lasted, right? Even in a lost season, it's nice to see your team play solid baseball for a week. Today, storms blew through the Chicago area before 11 a.m. and when they cleared out, it got hot and sticky -- so much so that plate umpire Paul Nauert (whose strike zone was all over the place) had to leave the game after the seventh inning, with Eddings taking over behind the plate. The crowd of 39,619 had a few thousand no-shows -- the bleachers were only about 75% full -- and people started heading out around the same time Nauert did, likely for the same reason.
So the Cubs can take some satisfaction in helping (most likely) put the Reds' playoff hopes to rest, as Cincinnati rests 9.5 games out of first place, as well as helping put the Pirates on their current skid (the Bucs lost their 10th in a row on Sunday).
And let's start a new winning streak on Monday.
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Byrd...
…should have let Castro have that ball. Castro was under it, but Byrd had to come charging in way too hard to put the brakes on. Whenever you try to stop that quickly, you run the risk of losing your footing.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Agreed.
Castro had it. Yes, the outfielder should usually take a ball like that, but after Castro waved him off, Byrd should have let him take it.
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The OF
has the call, not the IF. If Castro had tried making the play and fell, what would have been said?
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
Not only that
Byrd doesn’t see that Castro is in position. That’s why you verbally let people know you’re getting it. Byrd had a line on the ball and was in a position to catch it. It’s simply Byrd’s ball. The fact that Castro might’ve made the catch is secondary in everything. One good foot plant and it’s not even a discussion topic.
But...
… Castro waved Byrd off; he had made the call. Once that happens, Byrd should have let him take it.
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That's not the way it works
An OF always has priority even if the IF makes a prior call. It isn’t first come, first serve.
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
by tharr on Aug 7, 2011 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
A charging outfielder doesn’t know that the infielder is waving him off – even verbally, if the outfielder has a somewhat easy catch, he should call off the infielder. Every time. The slip was unfortunate.
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by PacificCub on Aug 7, 2011 9:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
This
Byrd is looking up in the sky and Castro has his back to Byrd. I don’t think Byrd can see or hear Castro in that spot and since he was going to get to the ball without having to dive he simply called everyone else off. That’s the right play. You can’t judge it after the fact and say what he should have done. He did what he was supposed to do. The slip was unfortunate but that doesn’t change the fact that Byrd made the right decision.
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by Section 312 on Aug 8, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes...in most circumstances
If the OF’er sees the IF’er in position, he should let the IF’er take it. It’s when both guys are about the same distance from the ball is when the OF’er should call off the IF’er.
In this case it seems Byrd just didn’t see Castro soon enough or misjudged the carry.
Just win the next game...!
Wouldn't have happened...
…castro was already there and Byrd was needing to run in full blast to get there. This is where the judgment of the CF needs to take over and he needs to know when he is stretching it to try and catch a ball.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Yes...IMO he lost track of the kid SS
OF’ers are not autonomous in the field, to the dismay of some folks.
Just win the next game...!
We battled, which I appreciate.
Compana’s hard slide, I like that too. 7 game wins streaks, I like. Now, just for fun let’s keep some streaks going and give us a reason to watch once football starts. I think the Reds and Pirates can be passed with some more win streaks. If not, once schools start no one is going to be interested in the cubs….. except me and you BCB brothers and sisters.
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by mrcubsfan on Aug 7, 2011 5:55 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Personally I'm not too concerned where they finish in this lost season but
I’m also not overly obsessed over a few spots in the draft. The 8th spot over the 4th spot or something like that doesn’t make much difference in the big picture.
John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.
If the option is to finish third or first, no
If the option is to finish third or fourth, fifth or sixth, hell yes.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 8, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
same is true of genetics...
sorry shoe, but you didnt win that battle either
by hansman1982 on Aug 7, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
low blow
I personally believe that damaged ligaments and tendons (among other abrasions) aren't the reason for the team playing so poorly relative the rest of Major League Baseball, so accordingly, James Hendry should be relieved of his highly important duties as General Manager of the Chicago Cubs franchise.
by jesus christos on Aug 8, 2011 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I become more impressed and happy with the shark after ever appearance
~Ronald Reagan has held the two most demeaning jobs in the country; President of the United States and radio broadcaster for the Chicago Cubs~ George F. Will
I agree
looking more solid with every outing. Getting really good velocity on his stuff too. Really excited to see what happens with him if he keeps improving like he has this season
by NorCalCubsFan on Aug 7, 2011 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Shark still needs to have a little better command.
But he does seem to be settling into the middle relief/setup role pretty well.
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He'll be fine as long as they don't switch him back to the rotation.
And then to the bullpen….and then to the AAA rotation….and then to the bullpen….and then to the AAA rotation….geniuses at work….
by TheGrinch13 on Aug 7, 2011 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Surprisingly, you and I are in 100% agreement here.
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I'd like to see him stretched out
and try to fill a spot in the rotation. He’s finally got a good idea about pitching and seems to have developed a 3rd pitch. With Cashner and Shark in the rotation, we might have a decent staff next year.
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
No thanks, he still walks way to many people to be a SP.
You can get away with that as a one inning reliever with power stuff and high Ks, but not as a starter. He’s finally settled into success in a specific role, and yanking is what hurt his progress in the first place.
He's trending better
Do we really want to watch the AAA Legion of worthless pitchers or Wells next season. If he can’t cut down the BB, then we can keep him in relief. But right now we have serious holes in the rotation and it won’t hurt to take a hard look at him.
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
Actually yes it could hurt.
He had his development hurt for three years bouncing between roles. Dempster, Zambrano, and Garza will be back, they’ll likely add at least one SP in the offseason, and I’d much rather see the 5 spot filled by Cashner, Struck, Rusin, or even Jay Jackson, and if necessary maybe Trey McNutt or Dallas Beeler later in 2012. Hell I’d rather see Russell start, at least he can keep the walks down. I’m guessing Shark is waaaaay down on the SP depth chart.
I see your point
BUT I believe Shark’s problem was more his unfamiliarity with big time pitching and his lack of having an assortment of pitches. Aside from his contract, he never should have been in the majors. His fastball had no movement and that was his out pitch. He’s gone from 69% FB to 57% abd his sliders have increased from 10% to 29%.
While we MAY add add a SP, we may not and who knows the quality given our recent history. Finally, I don’t feel we have anyone from the minors ready to step in next year. It should have been JJax, but he’s been terrible this year.
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
I'd be much more comfortable with Nick Struck.
I just don’t see anyway Shark can be successful with such a bad BB/9
Look at Struck's numbers
His WHIP is 1.43 this year at all levels this year, and even higher in Iowa. He doesn’t have a high GB/AO ratio. He started this year in Daytona. I just don’t see him ready for Wrigley yet.
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
Look at his BABIP
A+ .353, AA .359, AAA .327. You can’t keep a low WHIP when an extraordinary high percentage of balls are getting through for hits.
He has very reasonable BB/9 at 2.88, 1.54 and 3.71 between A+ and AAA respectively.
Also, my favorite thing about Struck are the following numbers: 0.36, 0.00 and 0.00, those are his HR/9 at each level. Anyone that can pitch 35+ innings in the PCL and not give up a HR should get a medal. He’s given up 2 HR in 120 innings this year. You can manage a 1.43 WHIP if batters need to nick you to death.
He’s not going to be a TOR pitcher, but he could be a solid #4/5 type for next year in a pinch. He’s also only 21, so he’s got some time to learn.
Ain't baseball stats great topcs to discuss
I must admit never having seen Struck pitch. However, I’ll make it a point to try and watch his next TV game. That said, I must admit I have a certain bias against the BABIP.
Not having Nick’s LD% doesn’t allow me to judge his performance as well as I’d like. But I will admit to admiration for his low HR%, particularly in Iowa. The question we have to ask, however, is how will he convert to Wrigley next year.
Given that he has fast tracked this year says he needs more seasoning, particularly since he’s a contact type pitcher without a high K pitch. Of course that’s obviously my opinion.
Based upon his stats he appears to be an inexperienced Wells or Coleman. I believe we’ll have much better options in 2012. I’d still like to see Shark given a solid chance.
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
I agree
But that even seems to be improving. Only 7 walks since July 1 (3.3BB/9) as opposed to 33 walks to start the season (6.6BB/9). Quite a large improvement in the walks in the past month. If it continues to trend downward, I would tend to agree with some of these others that wouldn’t mind seeing him at least given the shot at starting sometime in the future.
by NorCalCubsFan on Aug 7, 2011 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I was a strong supporter of his before the season
I think with a clearly defined role out of the bullpen, he could be highly effective longterm, and maybe even closer material if he can sharpen up his command, especially of his secondaries
by PrincetonCubs on Aug 7, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Well that was a fun little streak.
I know it didn’t mean much, but it did give me a reason to watch this team again.
That was a cool streak... but, can we go back to Quade's death march now?
I don’t want him accidentally marching into the Cubs dugout next April.
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I'm more concerned about Hendry getting shown the door in October
“See, Tom, this team was really OK. It was just injuries and bad luck.”
Anyone who thinks it can't happen...
must have inside info. With 47 games to go, if they somehow win even 25 and get to the mid-70’s win total, you know there’s going to be all this “feel good” stuff coming out. And that frighteningly will lead to more of the same in 2012.
Just win the next game...!
Seven
was heaven but eight will have to wait…..couldn’t help myself. Let’s start another one tomorrow night.
And yes Quade still needs to go along with Hendry and Kenney. Please Ricketts make it happen.
Why Kenney?
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anyone know what Crane does -
So smoke em if you got em
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I think Kenney is the worst of the lot
A guy with ZERO background in baseball, sports or anything related. A glad handing Trib exec who stumbled into a sweet gig. His greed and stupidity managed to ruin one of the great “golden eggs” in sports, the Wrigley Field bleachers and severely damage the rest of Wrigley sales. It was not enough that the Cubs made 5 to 10 times what any other team in the MLB did on what are considered and nearly every other park as “bad” seats, Kenney decided to “compete” with brokers with no clue that selling 4,000 seats at $81 (almost $90 with fees) for a July game against Florida was not a good idea. Not taking a clue from last years debacle, he decided the Cubs were still the hottest ticket in town and refused to offer a decent "package’ to fans until a few days before the season started long after it became clear ticket sales were tanking. Overall he and the marketing folks simply spent their time focusing on big business clients and forgot regular fans assuming they were a captive audience. He also stood by and watched ( or worse for all I know) while the Cubs presented a "don’t worry, everything is fine if only those fans would just buy our overpriced tickets and enjoy the “Wrigley Field experience” image presented by Ricketts".
In general it is also absurd to have a guy with again ZERO experience is sports as president of a baseball team. Clearly he is involved in more than ticket sales & marketing, but he gets a pass because we don’t “know” exactly what he does? The guy is president of a team that has is very badly messed up on and off the field and yet you have wonder why he should be fired?
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by Doggie Stalker on Aug 8, 2011 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions
He's only overstepped his bounds in the last year or two
I’m not the one to defend a guy who seems – as you put it, stumbled into a sweet gig – to be out of touch on the surface.
However, I do not believe he is part of baseball operations. If he were, then he should have been gone long ago. As I understand though he’s on the business side. That is different from baseball operations, significantly different.
The Cubs up until the end of the 2009 season capitalized on the bleachers’ popularity. They shouldn’t be damned for that. Now that it’s rather clear they have overvalued the overall product, there must be a correction. Will he be part of that decision? Will he be let go? Don’t know.
The Cubs are in the most unique situation in all of major league sports. They have a limited opportunity for BIG cash flow generators. In-house advertising revenue is limited. Skyboxes are a joke. Parking situation sucks. Concessions suck. All that plays into ticket pricing.
But in the end, there is still a lot of tickets sold and for some games, the place is packed. Look at this last weekend: Nearly 124k for 3 games against Cincy? One marquee date and 2 platinum dates to boot. They did their homework on that series. Others? Probably not so much.
As for this statement:
In general it is also absurd to have a guy with again ZERO experience is sports as president of a baseball team.I wholeheartedly agree with this EXCEPT, is his job function in baseball ops? If not, then only worry about the biz side. AND, IMO those situations that have you and others rightfully pissed off, will have corrections.
Look at McD now with the ‘Hawks. He could have the fanciest title he wants. Yeah my tickets went up again, another 20-ish percent for 11-12. And McD can have a hand in decisions to bring in hockey-minds (ala Scotty Bowman a couple years ago, the Connie Mack of hockey). Just as long he keeps his mitts out of hockey operations. As long as he doesn’t interfere with what GM Stan Bowman, Scouting Director Mark Kelley and head coach Q do, I’m OK with his decisions and his title.
Just win the next game...!
Yabbut...
….. for all you wrote, you’ve provided no evidence that if Kenney were fired, the team on the field would get better. Moreover, you can’t do that because he doesn’t have anything to do with the team on the field. If anything, he’s helped increased revenue that could be used to get better players. Lastly, the following statement of yours is absurd. We KNOW what he does, he runs the business ops side. How can you or anyone say he “clearly” is involved with more than that and say in your next breath you don’t know what he does?
Clearly he is involved in more than ticket sales & marketing, but he gets a pass because we don’t "know" exactly what he does? The guy is president of a team that has is very badly messed up on and off the field and yet you have wonder why he should be fired?
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by BeerCub on Aug 8, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Silly me again to think that the PRESIDENT of a company
has nothing to do with its field operations. I am pretty sure he has little to do with say who gets called up from the minors, but I doubt something like hiring Quade or even a major trade was done without his input.
However on what we KNOW he is supposed to do, marketing , he has done a piss poor job. In the space of two years, the Cubs have gone from the most desirable ticket in town to people dumping tickets at half value and that is not do simply to the economy and on field performance but mainly to his utter idiocy in not understanding those factors and acting as if they could charge as much as they want and treat fans badly because they did not matter. I am not going to go through my complaints for the last two years about how poorly ticket sales were managed but Kenney is the one who set the tone in deciding to essentially out broker the brokers resulting in disaster. The concept of “hard to get” Cub tickets nurtured for a decade is long gone.
You can join Ballhawk in the famous " we can’t see the books so you don’t know what you are talking about crowd:" in believing that the Cubs sales & revnues are really great and those empty seats and livid season ticket holders don’t really matter. From the "little: stuff like not allowing ANY refunds or EXCHANGES for rain outs to the continued selling of crappy “packages” and allowing folks to cherry pick the 10 actually valuable games, the sales and marketing has been terrible.
Again you want to keep the President of a company that has failed at every level?
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by Doggie Stalker on Aug 8, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Presidents - in this context of sports teams - are supposed...
…to put the right people in place to make the decisions. I’m not sure if Kenney functions in that role or not.
Let’s not get into the revenue thing. We just don’t know how much loss there is, if any.
You’re right about the issues the past 2 years, and it WILL see a correction.
Just win the next game...!
Losses "if any"
Well if you mean are the Cubs actually losing money, we don’t know though I doubt it, if you question whether they are taking in far less revenue and will be far worse next year, I have little doubt and that of course is less money to spend on payroll
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by Doggie Stalker on Aug 8, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Guess we'll see, eh?
I wouldn’t be surprised to see the payroll drop to under $110M, maybe as low as $100M.
Most scary is if they “finish strong” and we get another [BS] round of “we’re only a couple players away” routine.
Just win the next game...!
My guess is...
… that the Cubs will not lose money this year. In recent years they have made hefty profits. This year may be closer to break even.
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Weekends like this last one sure go a long way to assuring that, eh?
124k attendance, real attendance….2 platinum games, 1 marquee game … ≈ 15 games out, against the Reds. Wow…helluva protest against high ticket prices, eh?
Just win the next game...!
Well...
… keep in mind, a lot of Reds fans were in town.
Also, yesterday’s crowd was quite a bit smaller than the other two — bleachers were 25% empty.
Just wait until later this month and in September. Even tonight’s game is likely to have a significantly smaller turnout.
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There's a huge difference [in anticipation of higher attendance]
between weekend vs weekday games. Hence the reason all marquee games are weekend and so too are platinum with the exception of either really good teams being here or the occasional mediocre team, like FLA on a Thur in July.
In other words, the big attendance at the highest price games will in part offset lower draw crowds like say tonight and tomorrow night.
Won’t doubt one bit late Aug & most of Sept will be ½ full at best.
Just win the next game...!
Well, that's what they told me.
That the higher price games were “subsidizing” the lower price games. Revenue-wise, they may have done all right this year.
In so doing, they alienated a lot of people. Without significant price cuts, they are going to get a lot of cancellations.
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Again, this is YOUR OPINION
You have no evidence he’s failed at every level. You have no evidence he had any input hiring Quade. You continue to contradict yourself. You made up your mind a while ago you don’t like Kenney, and no amount of logic is going to change that.
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by BeerCub on Aug 8, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He is PRESIDENT of an organization that has failed at every level
How the hell is he NOT to blame?
Obviously I blame mostly for the marketing and ticketing fiasco that will continue for a long time. Again once it is clear that not only are Cub tickets not hard to get, they are easy to get for way under face value, the gig is up. You don’t have to be genius to know this just look at the stands and check stubhub. Ask anyone who has tickets how hard it is to sell them. This really changes everything. This year was the first year in which tickets basically did not sell on the first day of sales. This has not happened on this level in so long I can’t remember. Next year is going to be far, far worse.
The Cubs could have realized how soft sales were back in the winter when the first packs failed to sell, they could have tried to offer actually appealing groups of tickets, they could have pushed single game sales on the day they went on sale and they really could have done outreach to groups and offered the kind of food& ticket packages most other teams do. They did none of it and ended up basically giving tickets away to fill seats. Now they offering dirt cheap beer in the bleachers. Personally I can’t think bigger proof of Kenney’s failure than the need to sell cheap beer in the bleachers to attract fans.
I honestly never cared about Kenney one way or the other. but seeing how he has handled the last few years, I think he is an idiot.
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by Doggie Stalker on Aug 8, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Or,
ticket sales = poor performance on the field, something Kenney has nothing to do with.
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Cubs have had plenty of years with "poor performance"
they have not had a year where they did not sell out a majority of games before opening day in a long time. Anyone can sell tickets when a team is good, the genius of the Cubs was selling tickets when the team was not good.
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by Doggie Stalker on Aug 8, 2011 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
No, Jessica, here you're wrong.
The “sell out a majority of games before Opening Day” did not begin until after 2003. Look at attendance figures before that — it took a huge jump that year. Yes, they were able to sell out games in mediocre or bad years of 2005, 2006 and 2009, coming off good or playoff seasons.
But not before that. The “genius” is only over the last seven years — and that’s exactly the problem, the Cubs think they can keep this going even though it is a fairly recent phenomenon, caused exactly by having three playoff years out of six.
Unless that happens again, sales will continue to drop. On that you and I agree. It goes back to the team’s desire to emulate the Red Sox. If they are ever asked the question, “Why do the Red Sox sell out every game?” and they answer anything but “Because they are a consistent contender, make the playoffs every year and have won two recent World Series”, they are wrong.
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by Al Yellon on Aug 8, 2011 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm glad that you mentioned about Marshall facing the righties.
There was a whole string of them up after Bruce, and there was NO REASON ON EARTH that Wood wasn’t pitching to them. I don’t care how good Marshall has been. It was a horrific decision and any other manager would have made the switch. Wood wasn’t even up in the bullpen for some unknown reason.
Wells obviously didn’t have it today either, so you let him stay in for 7 innings while giving up 6 runs? How about the inning where he gave up the double, home run, and then another hit (almost all on the first pitch) and there was NO visit from the dugout from our pitching coach (there usually isn’t). All it did was show Quade in his usual position with his arms crossed. Simply mind boggling.
How about when we had 1st and 3rd with 1 out in the 7th and we were down by one, and they brought in a left handed specialist to face Pena. Where was Baker (our leading hitter versus lefties) at that point? It was a contact situation and we needed that run in. It ended up scoring later, but Pena struck out of course. I called that one from my couch.
I hang this loss on Quade’s managing, along with Byrd running in and calling off Castro when Castro was perfectly settled under that flyball. Too bad, as it would have been a nice come from behind win for an 8th one in a row.
by TheGrinch13 on Aug 7, 2011 6:32 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
CLAP CLAP CLAP
I personally believe that damaged ligaments and tendons (among other abrasions) aren't the reason for the team playing so poorly relative the rest of Major League Baseball, so accordingly, James Hendry should be relieved of his highly important duties as General Manager of the Chicago Cubs franchise.
by jesus christos on Aug 7, 2011 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Wood wasn't up.
But Samardzija was. That was the right choice at the time.
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Shark should have been in because he was up, but a good manager would have had either ready for the righties....
Maybe he thought it would work out since he has been so lucky lately?
Bad managing finally came back to haunt the Cubs.
So, a 7 game win streak means Quade was lucky...
…and when they lose it means he’s a bad manager? Seriously, 99% of us understand…Quade isn’t a very good manager…we get it.
Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem.
I don't have a problem leaving Mashall in
but a seven game winning streak when you started at over 20 games under and only after you are out of the race is only good for a little fun and good feeling. It does not in any way shape or form make Quade a good manager. We fell for that last year with his good streak after Lou left, don’t fall for it again. WTF good does it do in the long run to only win when you are out of the race?
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Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 8, 2011 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Nothing at all...It just clouds the issue...
He was making the same dumb decisions, just lucking out….
Keep making excuses Ed!!!!
Who's making excuses? I'm just alerting you to the fact that...
redundancy becomes irritating after awhile. We ALL know you want Quade and Hendry gone…we ALL know Tom Ricketts approves of them. We ALL know you want Campana AND Colvin playing everyday-even off days- we know DeWitt isn’t an OFer and Soriano makes alot of money and that shouldn’ t factor in him playing all the time. Here’s an idea…how about you put ALL that in your sig line, that way when you DO have something to post, ALL that BS will be right there for ya?
Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem.
by Easy Ed on Aug 8, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I agree with MOST of it...
I just don’t need to voice it every hour.
Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem.
I do not every hour....
Until Ricketts does something it needs to be said…
When our owner does his job, it will quickly shut me up….but until then, deal with it.
The deal with people telling you to shut up
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I think you've begun confusing the ones fighting for Ricketts, Hendry, and Quade
With the folks who don’t complain about every single thing this team does.
FIRE JIM HENDRY. Injuries aren't the problem.
by shoemile on Aug 8, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Well I think someone like Ed has been vocal in his displeasure with the team.
I don’t think you really needed to call him out.
FIRE JIM HENDRY. Injuries aren't the problem.
He called me out first....Maybe if he could back off, I would not say anything to him...
Why is it always me who must back down?
You wanna argue with him, go ahead.
I’m just saying that disagreeing with you doesn’t automatically make him a blind backer of all things Cub.
FIRE JIM HENDRY. Injuries aren't the problem.
He isnt disagreeing with me as much as not liking my style....
I dont care how others write. But apparently some people are consumed with my writings…So I guess I should be flattered….
Your style is the same as SG.
If that doesn’t make you want to change it I don’t know what will.
Gee, I dunno..
.. because so many people have asked you nicely to tone it down? It would, after all, be the polite thing to do.
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Part luck, part better play, most opposition
That 7-gamer would not have come against Philly and the Giants.
The win streak came against teams whose combined W/L pct is right around .500….
Just win the next game...!
Except...
… the Pirates had been hot before the Cubs faced them.
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No...they hadn't
They’d been hot before they played the Braves. Clearly we caught the Pirates at the right time, just as they were beginning this epic collapse
Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem
by Nunyabidness on Aug 8, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
They're already on a 3-game losing streak when the Cubs came calling
Now it’s ten. Guess it’s all relative now that they’re back under .500.
Just win the next game...!
So if the Cubs had lost to the Pirates and the Reds
It would have been “How could you lose to two weak teams like that?”
Heads I win. Tails you lose.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 8, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
No, it would have been...
Hey look, we still suck.
The Cubs are a bad team Bruce. Actually beating other teams that aren’t very good doesn’t change that
Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem
by Nunyabidness on Aug 8, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
It's better to beat them
than to lose to them.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 8, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Clearly
What the hell are you arguing?
Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem
by Nunyabidness on Aug 8, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not "arguing" anything
Looks like you’re the one who’s doing that.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 8, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
So what exactly was the point of your comment?
Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem
by Nunyabidness on Aug 8, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
The same people who say "Well, you only beat the Pirates and Reds"
would turn around and say “How could you lose to the Pirates and the Reds?”
Listen, I know that streak doesn’t change a lot of things. But I’d rather have it than not have it. I don’t need to be constantly miserable about my favorite baseball team.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 8, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Not when beating them
enough times to close out this season keeps Hendry, Kenney and a few other front office guys in place.
See what Quade’s 24-13 record last season – when all the pressure was off – got us for 2011??
Just win the next game...!
I'd be interested to hear what you think did.
Honestly
Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem
by Nunyabidness on Aug 8, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Not worth
wasting the effort on you.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 8, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
How about if I promise I won't even comment on it?
I honestly want to know what you think lead to this abysmal season.
Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem
by Nunyabidness on Aug 8, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm guessing he thinks it's just bad luck.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 8, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
That's my guess too
But I’d love to see him actually offer up a definitive answer on anything.
Instead of JUST slagging everyone else’s opinions
Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem
by Nunyabidness on Aug 8, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't hold your breath
Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem.
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 8, 2011 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions
do you have to ask?
I personally believe that damaged ligaments and tendons (among other abrasions) aren't the reason for the team playing so poorly relative the rest of Major League Baseball, so accordingly, James Hendry should be relieved of his highly important duties as General Manager of the Chicago Cubs franchise.
by jesus christos on Aug 8, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
During the bottom of the 7th
Marshall and Russell were up. Two lefties at the same time? I know there were two lefties up and we figured they were saving Wood for the 9th since Marmol has been used a lot lately, but two lefties and then you don’t get Wood up at all. I am tired of seeing things like this.
I'm sorry to be a devils advocate
but I remember at least 5-10 occasions on this site that Al has complained that quade should have (left a pitcher in and not over used the righty vs. Righty mentality). If he took out Marshall and shark got bombed you would have bitched he didn’t leave Marshall in.
The point is....
… you have to react correctly to the situation. Sometimes it’s right to leave the pitcher in, or play platoon matchups. Yesterday, Quade didn’t play the situation right.
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I totally agree
but what would the recap say today if he took him out and shark got shelled?
What if?
We could do “what if” all day long. Marshall didn’t have it yesterday. It would have been the right thing to take him out.
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Calm down man.
What have you seen from Wood this year that makes you think he would have effective? Right now, Wood is about as dependable as Spellcheck.
Watching the Cubs piss it away for 31 years.
I too think Wood is no longer a dependable bullpen arm.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 8, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I agree with this.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 7, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I was going to ask about the field Al...
Maybe we can blame Paul McCartney for this one.
Guess I no longer need to…
Oh well…
There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion?
The field, in general, is in good shape.
And blaming the concert is probably not right. We had a lot of rain this morning. That could have been a spot of wet, loose turf. It happens.
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I remember a game I went to last summer,
When it poured in the morning, and I thought the game might be postponed. They got it in, a shutout win over the Cardinals last July. While I was driving to my family’s house, I saw these huge rain clouds in the distance, and massive downpours occurred as I was nearing the house.
The next day, when I was flying out of O’Hare, I had a window seat, and I saw whole neighborhoods where streets were completely flooded.
BTW, send some of that rain to me. We’ve gone from having too much rain to having nowhere near enough. The farmers here are getting livid … they simply can not buy a break. The lake, which was well past flood stage, is now 5 feet below as its water level has dropped nearly 10 feet.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 7, 2011 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
You can have the rain.
It’s setting up to be the wettest year in Chicago history. I’m sick of it.
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It rained here last sunday
For about 4 minutes. First time since May. Probably last til mid-October.
"We're young and dumb and ready to go throw strikes." James Russell
by PacificCub on Aug 7, 2011 9:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
my corn growing father
is loving this year, especially with the missouri flooding great year to be a midwestern corn grower!
Must be more precip outside S-central McHenry Cty
We get decent rain but luck-out from the big stuff (like July 23rd). Even yesterday’s total by my house was less than a ½ inch.
Skilling has a great section on-line. Here’s an Aug precip graphic you may like (dislike):
http://blog.chicagoweathercenter.com/assets_c/2011/08/FEATGRAPH080711.html
Interesting tidbits on how the weathers “normals” appear to change with the official Chicago site change: Downtown, U of C, Midway, no O’Hare.
Oh BTW, NOAA thinks La-Nina is expected to re-develop fall/winter for Chi-Town: MORE snow than normal.
Just win the next game...!
Question is would that turf have been loose had there been no concert there
Problem with the play, Byrd likely should not have called off Castro.
Just win the next game...!
I've always wondered how much a jump from 98-99 MPH to 101-102 MPH really feels like to a hitter.
On one hand, it’s pretty small in terms of percentage jump—3-5%—but it must be significantly faster in terms of reactionary time required to make solid contact. There’s plenty of MLBers that throw in the high 90s, but whenever there’s a guy tossing triple digits on the mound, hitters seem to shake in their cleats.
That, or the psychological component affects hitters more than they’re willing to admit.
Dan
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
And don't forget
the effective touch of wildness that Chapman also has and batters have to feel uncomfortable digging in against him.
John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Most of those guys don’t have the Maddux-like control, do they?
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Len and Bob
both looked at the Campana replays at 1st and agreed he was probably out.
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
There are monitors underneath the upper deck...
… that can be seen by most of the terrace reserved section. There was quite a bit of booing from that area when that replay was shown. It was close enough that he could have been called safe.
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Yea, actually this was the one game this year I got to go to Wrigley
And I saw a monitor too. The first 1 or 2 camera angles they showed made it look like he might have been safe but then the next one looked pretty conclusive he was out by a hair.
Also, I would have came and introduced myself Al, but my tickets were not for the bleachers. Oh well, another time.
I couldn't tell.
Those around me insisted he was safe so I booed along just for fun.
Fasten those seat belts...
He was out, Al.
Watching the Cubs piss it away for 31 years.
by CarolinaHawk on Aug 8, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Castro leading the NL in hits
Me likey.
"Playoffs?!" -Jim Mora
by Castro Por Presidente on Aug 7, 2011 7:36 PM CDT reply actions
I'd rather see a batting title
He leads Reyes with 6 more hits…….in 50 more AB’s.
Just win the next game...!
I'd take two good hamstrings
and slightly less production.
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by Castro Por Presidente on Aug 8, 2011 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
This surprised me
I didn’t think the Cubs offense would have produced enough ABs for that.
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by Castro Por Presidente on Aug 8, 2011 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
WTF is up with Russell?
Is he injured? He has thrown to one batter in the last 9 days and he had an ERA of well under two in the last two months since he went to the bullpen.
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Me either
Quade's thinking about trying him in the outfield, actually.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Sean Marshall's played outfield, too.
Maybe that’s what we are in for.
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Would it surprise you at this point?
I would be shocked if Campana or Colvin is playing tomorrow…It is a RHP-they might need more “rest”
Yes, but
In one of Piniella’s best managerial moves ever.
by sanshokubento on Aug 8, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly...
…I am surprised managers don’t do that more often late in games.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
I was there.
One of my favorite memories at Wrigley. The crowd erupted when they finally realized what was happening, one of the craziest moments I’ve witnessed at a game. Even better was that they were playing the Cardinals.
The look of both terror and bemusement on Marshall's face
was priceless, Fuld was in CF and you KNOW he was told to run as fast as he could if he saw a ball going towards LF. Alas the Cubs still lost the game , but he was indeed a really fun momement.
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Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Aug 8, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I just don't get the anti-DeWitt obsession.
Yes, he is a backup player but between Baker, Barney, Johnson, Colvin, Campana and DeWitt no one should be starting on a good team. Why obsess over DeWitt over the other 5? He is not a good fielder but he is a better hitter than everyone’s favorite Barney and the scrappy Campana. DeWitt and Barney are nearly the same age so it’s not like one is the aged veteran.
I guess you need something to post repetitively.
John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.
The "obsession" is probably based on the fact that DeWitt isn't a good hitter... like, at all.
Blakey’s career wOBA: .311
This season: .308
Career OPS: .712
This season: .707 (and driven entirely by slugging… which based on his ISO looks like a statistical outlier from the rest of his season)
Fangraphs also has Blakey as a negative value fielder and baserunner.
Barney season wOBA: .302
Season OPS: .682
As you can see, the wOBA #s are very similar. DeWitt obviously has an ‘edge’ in OPS, though it isn’t much.
Barney is a weak hitter… and will probably never be much more than that. My issue with DeWitt playing is that the Cubs have enough poor fielders and baserunners. If Blake was a good (at least above average) hitter, then maybe you take the hit in the other phases of the game. But he isn’t.
He and Barney are both poor hitters (I guess Blake gets an edge for his handedness). So since you’re getting next to nothing offensively from each of them… why not play the guy who can play defense and run the bases??
IMO, the other piece of the “scrappy” factor is that guys like Barney and Campana at least look like they are trying. Compared to the (with all apologies to Bob Brenly) “dead-ass team” that inhabited the Cubs’ uniforms most of the season, that’s an upgrade.
Fans want to root for guys who look like they care. That’s the case with Barney and Campana (and I do believe DeWitt, and others ‘care’, but it doesn’t necessarily show in the way they play). Now fans will certainly side with the guy with superior talent over the guy who only tries hard. But we’re not sitting any decidedly superior talents in favor of Barney. When ‘Campy’ starts, there is a noted drop in talent… but I also don’t see many calling for him to start every day. For him, it is just nice to see Soriano not starting every day.
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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
by fsuapollo on Aug 8, 2011 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
No big disagreement
but people flip out when DeWitt plays. I think the difference in hitting between DeWitt and Barney will be even greater by season’s end as Barney’s numbers have been heading downward. Personally neither excite me.
If DeWitt isn’t a good hitter, what does that make Barney?
John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.
There are plenty of people (myself included) that have been saying for a while
That Barney is not an everyday starter on a good team. He is however a pretty good bench player because of his DEFENSE which is head and shoulders better than DeWitt’s.
That’s the other part of the DeWitt "hate’ he’s not really good offensively and he’s not really good defensively
Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem
by Nunyabidness on Aug 8, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Neither DeWitt nor Barney are very good hitters
But that’s not the issue. What causes people to “flip out” (at least, what does it for me) is seeing DeWitt playing LF instead of one of the actual major league OF on the roster, or seeing him batting in the #3 spot or #5 spot in the batting order. There’s no reason to be using a guy who’s basically comparable in offensive value to Darwin Barney in the middle of our batting order.
None of those circumstances are DeWitt’s fault – it’s Q making those calls – but like Koyie Hill last year, or Aaron Miles in 2009, the way Q is using DeWitt has made DeWitt this year’s designated BCB whipping boy.
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 8, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed... most overreact to DeWitt being in the line-up.
In response to your question, the answer is (at least at this point): a weak hitter. If he can’t improve his OBA, he becomes virtually worthless with the bat.
IMO, if a team had a strong line-up, he could be fine as a “classic” #8 hitter in the NL. The Cubs don’t, so his shortcomings are magnified.
He also has some sense of “clutchitude”… hitting .329 with 30 RBI in 85 ABs with men in scoring position. That made him endearing, particularly early in the season when the Cubs couldn’t buy a ‘clutch hit’.
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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
Quade simply doesn't know how to manage a bullpen
There have been quite a few relievers who have had stretches like this, this season.
Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem
by Nunyabidness on Aug 8, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Campana was out at first on the play you referenced above.
It was close, but he was out. Eddings made the right call.
Watching the Cubs piss it away for 31 years.
Yeah, and Jerry Meals made the right call a few weeks ago.
Oh wait.
BTW, when people see your sig line, they should understand not to take your comment seriously.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 7, 2011 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Whoops.
Thought you were a visiting team’s fan. Sorry man.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 7, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
And that was the hospitality you'd show him?
C’mon, you can do better than that.
Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem.
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 7, 2011 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't even know what the means
Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem
by Nunyabidness on Aug 8, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
It had to end at some point,
But it was great seeing them win games again.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 7, 2011 8:39 PM CDT reply actions
Just so this doesn't happen too much again this season
I don’t want the “feel-good” BS stories from late last season to repeat. The team needs a huge overhaul.
Just win the next game...!
Yeah, we certainly don't want to have fun
You’re not a Cubs fan unless you’re miserable 24/7!
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 8, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
but when "fun" hamstrings the club for the future
its not worth it, was it neat seeing a 7 game winstreak from these guys?sure, but if it means Q and H keep their jobs next season then it was not worth it and i’d rather be miserable for those 7 games than miserable for another year.
You don't know if you're going to be miserable for another year
This is supposed to be entertainment.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 8, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
You're right, it IS supposed to be entertaining. It hasn't been for most of the season
and what they are saying is that it probably won’t be if the two morons who are directly to blame for this team are brought back.
Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem
by Nunyabidness on Aug 8, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
If a little 7 game win streak is enough to bring back Hendry and Quade
Then I have no confidence that Ricketts will have any sort of ability to select a decent replacement for Hendry.
I ALREADY don't have that confidence. The question mark is whether Ricketts can put aside his ego and hire a team president
who WOULD be qualified.
And before you retort “how is he going to be qualified to hire a team president?” I’ll say that there are plenty of good baseball people he could lean on in THAT search
Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem
by Nunyabidness on Aug 8, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
The winning spurt was enough to keep Q on as manager.
who the deuce knows what to expect for next year.
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by Castro Por Presidente on Aug 8, 2011 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
how could you not be miserable for another year if
the same team is trotted out on the field, it would be exactly the same thing…if this year sucked with this team, then next year would suck with this team…
Yup, lets have some fun the last 7 weeks of the season
and watch the same load of shit next season.
Yup, great plan…
Just win the next game...!
FYI...
Frazier’s HR gave the Reds a 3-2 lead, which they then extended to 4-2 on the wild pitch
And the Reds needed only a 2-run rally in the top of the 8th.
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Just North of Wrigley Field
It was fun while it lasted, and if they can do seven six more times....
Oh where, oh where, has my KoolAid gone?
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
It was my husband's fault.
He wore his “W” cap to the game. I hate when he wears it before they win. There should be a law against it.
Fasten those seat belts...

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