Cubs Find A Team That Makes More Mistakes Than They Do; Beat Mets
Most of you probably spent Saturday afternoon watching college football, given the fact that the Cubs have been eliminated from playoff contention and they were playing another team not in the race.
Too bad for you -- you missed a highly entertaining game, although "entertaining" does not necessarily mean "good baseball". Fortunately for the Cubs, they played less bad than their hosts did and defeated the Mets 5-4, evening up the series at a game each and also improving the Cubs' record in one-run games to 23-24.
For the first seven innings, it looked like I'd have a completely different story to write about this game, as Randy Wells seemed to be cruising to another shutout. Wells threw seven shutout innings, with only 81 pitches through those seven. Perhaps unfortunately for him, the Cubs had a very long top of the eighth, in which they scored their third run -- one that would be needed later on -- and in which the Mets made a pitching change. Perhaps that took a little bit of Wells' rhythm away, as he walked Willie Harris and then battled Jose Reyes in a seven-pitch at-bat that resulted in a double, scoring the Mets' first run.
That brought Kerry Wood into the game, and that's when the fun began.
Wood was not good today. Although, maybe that's not fair to him -- he did throw 16 strikes in 23 pitches, struck out two and picked Jason Bay off first base to end the inning (maybe -- replays showed Bay might have beat the throw).
In between those strikeouts, though, Wood allowed a pair of run-scoring singles, both on two-strike pitches; the three runs that scored on those hits gave the Mets a 4-3 lead.
That was the 22nd blown save for the Cubs this year. And believe it or not, that's not even close to the league lead; the Rockies and Braves also have 22, the Astros and Cardinals 23, and the Nationals lead the NL with 27. The Mets weren't far behind in that category, starting today with 19, and they are playing closer-by-committee since the trade of K-Rod to the Brewers.
So today, Bobby Parnell -- who started the day with four of New York's blown saves -- got the call to try to nail down the win. David Wright, usually a sure-handed third baseman, booted Geovany Soto's routine ground ball to start the inning. Lou Montanez ran for Soto -- at last, Mike Quade seems to understand that you can take your starting catcher out in the late innings -- and went to third when Bryan LaHair doubled high off the wall in left. I have been skeptical about LaHair, and you shouldn't read too much into September games against mediocre opposition, but the man has hit -- so far, at least.
Anyway, Tyler Colvin ran for LaHair. Starlin Castro hit a ball on which Parnell made a nice play, and Reed Johnson battled Parnell through an eight-pitch at-bat before striking out.
Which brought up Aramis Ramirez. With first base open. And Tony Campana on deck.
Seriously, this is a no-brainer; you walk A-Ram 100 out of 100 times in this situation.
But Mets manager Terry Collins didn't. He opted to let Parnell pitch to Ramirez, who yanked a fastball the opposite way into right field for a two-run single. Yes, amazingly, sometimes the other guy makes decisions (and plays; the Mets had four errors in this game) worse than Cubs decisions.
Carlos Marmol issued a walk, but struck out two before he had to rely on a good defensive play by DJ LeMahieu on a ricochet, to end it for his 34th save. Wood posted the "win", although he didn't throw well -- here is a perfect example of why individual pitcher "win" totals mean nothing. Wells threw well enough to win, but the "win" went to someone else. What's important is that the Cubs managed to come back after blowing a lead, and then hold on to it. Further, Wells' good game again seems to indicate that he came back too soon from his injury; he's been very good since August 1.
And that brings up another point. The Cubs are now 40-37 in games started by Wells (11-9), Ryan Dempster (17-13) and Matt Garza (12-15). That makes them 23-45 in games started by all other pitchers on the team, and if you take Carlos Zambrano's starts out of that mark (since he likely won't be back), it's 10-35 in games started by everyone else.
That says to me that the Cubs should be in good shape on the back end of their rotation. Garza, Dempster and Wells aren't No. 1 or likely, even No. 2 starters. But they can pitch the team to a slightly over .500 record. If the Cubs can pick up a quality starter over the winter, they should be in great shape pitching-wise in 2012. That might be even more important than spending tons of money on offense; the 586 runs the Cubs have scored is just a bit below league average (596), but the 690 runs allowed are second-worst in the league.
Just a thought. The Cubs can win the season series from the Mets with a victory in Sunday night's contest. That'd be nice.
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Terry Collins is the manager of the Mets?
If somebody asked me that question before today, I wouldn’t have guessed it in a hundred years.
by Chi-Fed on Sep 10, 2011 4:05 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I thought he was playing QB for the Indianapolis Colts
oh, that’s Kerry Collins.
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Or the Bears last year.
Oh, that was Todd Collins.
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Phil Collins?
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Michael Collins

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If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Jimmy Collins

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Shano Collins is hot too...
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If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Not to forget

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
You all forgot
You all forgot the coach who did all the hardest part of the work to develop the Bulls til Phil Jackson took over.
Doug Collins.
Nothing happens unless it's first a dream
by puckishcubsfan on Sep 11, 2011 7:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Can we play the Mets 162 times in 2012?
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
To be fair....
There needs to be balance. Mets are in the east. Toss in the Astros & Royals in central, the Mariners in the west. And maybe the Orioles.
by ddoubleheader on Sep 10, 2011 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
He's Lookin' Good...
I’ve always rooted for him, so I really like seein’ him finishing strongly!
That was fun.
Except that Pat and Keith gave me an earworm with all their “Camptown Races” talk. Oh and as much as I love cows, that cowbell was so annoying. Felt sorry for whoever was sitting near that person. It’s almost as bad as HWSNBN.
Football? Football? What's a football?-Ralphie Parker
Camptown Ladies sing this song...
Doo dah, Doo dah…
(I wouldn’t be surprise if it turns out the Mets player, Duda, hates the song)
"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"--The Brain
Is there a reason we didn't call up Beef? Or did we and I missed it? I mean, he's on the 40 man isn't he?
Beef has a hamstring injury and can't play.
Len hinted on today’s telecast that Steve Clevenger might be called up when the Southern League playoffs end.
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Too bad
that might not be for another eight days.
by Josh Timmers on Sep 10, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah.
Hope the Smokies win, but that would delay Clevenger’s recall.
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a little naive Al
to say adding one good pitcher and cubs rotation will be in good shape…i think they need 2 and dempster may be entering period of decline. it depends who they add. they need to improve pitching, offense and defense—a lot to do. but it’s possible.
Well, clearly...
… the Cubs would need two solid pitchers. But one would be a good start.
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one foot in front of the other

A friend once told me: "I don't buy the idea that a team learns anything from a loss, the only thing they learn is how to lose games."---Knight
I would assume...
That Demp will be back…we will have Garza and Wells back…and Cashner will be given a crack at a spot in the rotation. So, I’d say we need to add one solid starter…and hope that McNutt, JJax, Struck, or Coleman can be ready to pick up any slack.
Demp probably is declining, but he should be our 3rd or 4th in ‘12, and I’m fine with that!
we need more than a 'solid' starter.
Otherwise, we have a rotations of 3s and 4s.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
To be fair, Garza has been looking more like a #2 lately
But by next year, Dempster may be marginal as a #4. But there isn’t anyone there the team can send out against Wainwright or Greinke with high confidence of winning.
Garza's numbers bordering on a TOR starter
3.52—era 2.97-FIP 3.16-xFIP 4.3-WAR
A friend once told me: "I don't buy the idea that a team learns anything from a loss, the only thing they learn is how to lose games."---Knight
Considering this year's rotation...
“Solid” is a huge step in the right direction, right? Let’s get there, and then we can worry about contention!
How did wood blow the save?
Wouldn’t it have been a blown hold?
"Whenever one finds himself in the majority, it is time to step back and reflect," Mark Twain.
by WindisBlowingOut! on Sep 10, 2011 4:23 PM CDT reply actions
It's a blown save.
Any time a pitcher is in a save situation — Wood COULD have finished the game — and blows the lead, he gets a blown save.
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Hmm...
but how is it a save situation in the 8th inning? Of course Wood COULD have finished the game, but I didn’t deem him being in a save situation. So what’s the difference between a hold and a save situation if we’re in the 8th inning?
"Whenever one finds himself in the majority, it is time to step back and reflect," Mark Twain.
by WindisBlowingOut! on Sep 10, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a save situation because you cannot assume the pitcher is going to be removed.
Yes, we know most managers don’t leave their eighth inning guy in. But they COULD.
The definition of a hold is based on the save definition — it’s given to pitchers who fulfill the save rules, but do not finish the game.
You don’t get a “blown hold”, though, if you blow it — you get a blown save.
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Well that just seems unjust haha
I guess I always assumed it wasn’t a save situation unless the game was on the line (i.e., the 9th inning/last inning of the contest). Had Wood not given up any runs he would’ve been given a hold, but since he coughed up the lead, he gets a blown save. So a team could potentially have 4 blown saves in one 9 inning game and still win. Interesting.
"Whenever one finds himself in the majority, it is time to step back and reflect," Mark Twain.
by WindisBlowingOut! on Sep 10, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
A blown save can take place in the 6th inning.
As long as the starter has pitched his five and left the game with a lead that is within the save perimeters, the TEAM is in line for a save. If any reliever coughs up the lead, he’s given a blown save.
by Nunyabidness on Sep 10, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks.
This explains it a bit better than I did.
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Would the Mets qualify
as a blown franchise?
by ddoubleheader on Sep 10, 2011 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Definition of save and
a look at five unusual saves over the last 40+ years here:
http://www.azsnakepit.com/2011/8/19/2370518/the-five-oddest-saves-ever
by mainehawksfan on Sep 10, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Wildcats pulverizing the Panthers 35-7 in the third quater (5:26) - Cubs win - A nice evening indeed.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
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If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Was at game.
Persa will be back but this is his last year. Colter looked very good these last 2 games. Bodes well for next year since he will be the starting QB next year.
Nothing happens unless it's first a dream
by puckishcubsfan on Sep 11, 2011 7:11 AM CDT up reply actions
On Evanston and Northwestern
I’m a Northwestern alum not only undergrad but in December graduate school as well.
Can we get ourselves a Pat Fitzgerald like figure to change the course of Cubs history like Pat did with Northwestern first as a player now as head coach?
My grandpa was completely Evanston educated. From pre school through Northwestern undergrad and grad school.
Nothing happens unless it's first a dream
by puckishcubsfan on Sep 11, 2011 7:17 AM CDT up reply actions
You go realize that Northwestern was actually being turned around by Pat's predeccesor right?
Pat was very much the beneficiary of the groundwork that had already been laid
by Nunyabidness on Sep 11, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Reminds me of Germans who think Pizza Hut means Pizza Hat.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Al, I always admire your optimism.
So I’m not going to say anything.
It seems that LaHair
is willing and able to actually take pitches.
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
Yeah. LaHair is impressing me.
Not only did he take pitches, he hit a ball the opposite way against the wall at Citi Field.
If LaHair keeps this up, he needs to at least be in the conversation for a bench job next year.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
more comfy with the premise
with a legit GM and manager.
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
in the Fanpost section
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
Quade did it again
Why does he think getting Campana in the game before the 9th inning is necessary? Oh, and did you notice the arm on that guy…about 75 feet from the cutoff man, and he made it there on just ONE hop. And thanks to A-Ram, Quade got away with being a bigger lamebrain than usual. Campana woulda came up with the bases loaded and 2 out in the 9th inning and down by one if they’d have walked A-Ram…if DeWitt wasn’t available.
You know life is good when you hear "Die Hard 5" is in production. Yippee ki-yay, &%^##(&(#&%-ers !
You NEVER walk Ramirez when Tony "Big Guns" Campana is on deck!
Actually, Campana probably would have laid down a bunt and the stellar Mets D would have botched the play anyway…
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
Who has been filling in for Brenly this weekend?
I’ve only been watching two minutes here and two minutes there and can’t place the voice…
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
I meant to mention that.
I was pretty impressed with Hollandsworth. He’s much better at game analysis than his studio gig. If he could do this on a regular basis, he’d probably be excellent.
It’s good that the Cubs have a useful fill-in for either Brenly or Moreland. Hollandsworth is WAY better than Dave Otto was.
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Didn't see the postgame, but I'm guessing he didn't interview Ramirez...
Step Two: Develop an organizational plan
by Shanghai Badger on Sep 10, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Hollandsworth was pretty good.
Though I much preferred it when Soup filled in a while back, he and Len seemed to have a particularly good rapport.
by English Cub Fan on Sep 11, 2011 5:14 AM CDT up reply actions
I also like Dave Eanat as a radio fill in. Of course I’ve liked him for years doing Northwestern games.
Unlike Wayne Larrivee who called the Cubs the Bears at least 3 times a game when he filled in Eanat does not get confused and say the Wildcats (I thought Larrivee was excellent at football though).
Nothing happens unless it's first a dream
by puckishcubsfan on Sep 11, 2011 7:13 AM CDT up reply actions
you have
buehrle and jackson out there this winter.might be worth looking at. we really need pitching.how much longer can we keep relying on wells and coleman. and please if lopez stays leave him in the pen. he can have grabow’s job.
Rotation
While it would be nice to have a true ace 5 quality major league starters give you a chance to win every game.
Would be nice to get a true #1 but how about getting 2 quality pitchers to add to Wells. Dempster and Garza? Would rather have a solid 5 than an ace and huey, duey louie and phooey.
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another 'great' fielding play by pena
that ball was hit right to him and he dropped it. I don’t get the fielding love for Pena, he has been so thoroughly unimpressive to me from a fielding perspective I just have to imagine people who think he’s been amazing defensively just aren’t watching closely.
I can't imagine what games you have been watching.
Pena has been excellent. The ball you’re talking about was a difficult play. He has saved the rest of the infield from numerous errors.
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Al, u were right, everybody was watching college football
there couldn’t of been more than a couple hundred people who actually watched this game. Baseball is basically over.
Over?
Well, except for that “playoffs” thing. I know I’ll be watching.
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i'm ready to hand the phillies the trophy
and I hate American League baseball, the games are so long it has become unwatchable.
I'm with you on most AL games..
… although, that’s primarily a Yankees and Red Sox issue.
Don’t hand anyone any trophies yet. People were ready to do that last year to either the Yankees or Phillies.
How’d that work out?
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A lot of people were ready to hand it to them last year
But the Giants came and took it from them. That’s why they play the games.
"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk
Just a minor point but
those runs allowed also indicate we need to get better Defensively, not just in that last starter’s spot. So that means changing the composition of the offense, even if Castro modestly improves.
The sun is up. They sky is blue. It's beautiful, and so are you. Dear Prudence, won't you come out to play? ~Lennon & McCartney
by SouthWabashSoul on Sep 11, 2011 11:16 AM CDT reply actions

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