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Chicago Cubs vs. Cincinnati Reds Preview, Monday 9/12, 6:10 CT: You Again?

Didn't we just do this? See the Reds for a series? Thanks to MLB's schedulers, the Cubs are going through a stretch where they face the Reds for seven out of ten games. By the time Thursday rolls around, they are going to likely be good and sick of each other.

The Reds lead the season series 8-6, so the Cubs would have to sweep this set (unlikely) to win the season series. A 3-1 series win would give the Cubs a season split with Cincinnati, which would be nice.

Also, the Cubs open today just two games behind the Pirates for fourth place. The two teams do not meet again, but since Aug. 1 the Cubs are 21-17, while the Pirates are 10-28. Further, the Pirates just got swept by the Marlins at home and now must face the hot Cardinals. I know, I know: some of you want the Cubs to get a higher draft pick next year. Without even knowing who will be better than others in that draft, which is nine months away, I want the Cubs to finish strong this year. (No, I don't think that will save Mike Quade's job, either, so don't worry too much about that.)

And speaking of schedules, the 2012 MLB schedule is expected to be released sometime this week. The Cubs have announced that they will pass out tentative schedules during this year's final homestand starting Friday. If nothing else, it's something to look forward to.

Cubs lineup:

Castro ss, Johnson rf, Ramirez 3b, Baker 1b, Soriano lf, Byrd cf, Soto c, Barney 2b, Lopez p

I have a feeling a lot of you aren't going to like that lineup much.

Reds lineup:

Phillips 2B, Sappelt CF, Votto 1B, Bruce RF, Alonso LF, Mesoraco C, Francisco 3B, Janish SS, Willis P

Star-divide

Today's Starting Pitchers
Rodrigo Lopez
Rodrigo Lopez
Cubs
vs. Dontrelle Willis
Dontrelle Willis
Reds
4-6 W-L 0-5
4.82 ERA 4.21
42 SO 51
24 BB 32
14 HR 5
vs. Cin -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2011 - Rodrigo Lopez 4-6 23 13 0 0 0 0 80.1 99 50 43 14 24 42 4.82 1.53


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2011 - Dontrelle Willis 0-5 13 11 0 0 0 0 66.1 66 31 31 5 32 51 4.21 1.48

Rodrigo Lopez. My favorite. Sigh. Lopez started last Tuesday against the Reds at Wrigley Field. He came up one out short of a quality start, and the Cubs nearly lost in regulation until Bryan LaHair homered in the ninth; the Cubs eventually lost in the 13th inning. Lopez gave up two runs on eight hits, which included three doubles. He didn't pitch that badly, but he didn't pitch that well, either. What can you do?

Dontrelle Willis started against the Cubs a week ago today at Wrigley Field. Like Lopez, he didn't pitch either great or poorly. It's kind of like he was just... there. Perhaps the most interesting thing about Willis is his hitting; he's 10-for-29 this year (.385) with a .654 SLG (two doubles, a triple, a home run). Maybe they should think about doing the "Rick Ankiel" with him.

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Reds?

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Sep 12, 2011 4:05 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Who?

"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck

by Musicdude10 on Sep 12, 2011 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope.

This year’s was released on 9/14/2010.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 12, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I want the Cubs to finish strong, too, but I think Quade could come back.

At this point I’d say it’s 50/50. I’m just glad to see the team playing better and I hope that some of the younger guys get more playing time. Probably not going to happen, but at least we’ll get to see what they can do heading into 2012.

by jeffmills1972 on Sep 12, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have a conundrum.

This lineup and this manager make me not want to watch the Cubs tonight. But this might be the last chance I get to watch the Cubs this season, because I’m heading out of town Wednesday and won’t really be back until October.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 12, 2011 4:13 PM CDT reply actions  

So you watch.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 12, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

If it wasn't already obvious ...

Mike Quade pushed me over the edge today.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 12, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

If a had a dollar

for every if I read about the Cubs every year, I could have bought the team by now and was already printing WS tickets.

If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.

by tharr on Sep 12, 2011 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

My advice is

get yourself a hot dog, some peanuts and print out a scorecard. You might also need an Old Style or 12. Enjoy the game.

Football? Football? What's a football?-Ralphie Parker

by katie casey on Sep 12, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I might watch this game.

I can’t keep score tonight. I can’t force myself to write in that lineup.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 12, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

So make up funny nicknames like "food poisoning"

and write those in instead.

Football? Football? What's a football?-Ralphie Parker

by katie casey on Sep 12, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't write in any names, then.

Just keep score.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 12, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me too, more or less. I'm leaving on Saturday for 14 days in northern Spain.

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Sep 12, 2011 4:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hope you both have good trips.

Football? Football? What's a football?-Ralphie Parker

by katie casey on Sep 12, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Enjoy.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 12, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Sep 12, 2011 5:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks.

Be nice to come back to a new GM and a Cubs team without Quade, Jamarillo, DeJesus, Listach or Riggins.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 12, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

The fiance/wife as of Saturday will do.

:)

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 12, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow! Congrats!

Football? Football? What's a football?-Ralphie Parker

by katie casey on Sep 12, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 12, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now I've got this

cute song going through my head.

Football? Football? What's a football?-Ralphie Parker

by katie casey on Sep 12, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha! I'm never heard that before.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 12, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 12, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

hehehe

I like the way you think.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 12, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Congrats!

Hope you have a beautiful day Sat. and a wonderful trip.

Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the ground each morning the devil says, "OH CRAP, SHE'S UP"!

by sue369 on Sep 12, 2011 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks, sue!

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 12, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mazel Tov!

Enjoy your time away from the 2011 Chicago Cubs.

by Jody Jody Davis on Sep 12, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

Will do.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 12, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cool... Congrats!

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Sep 12, 2011 5:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

thanks!

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 12, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

My GF and I have been together now for over 20 years.

I wish the two of you a similar success.

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Sep 12, 2011 5:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

If the fiance can put up with ME ...

I think we’ll be good.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 12, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 12, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

you guys across the pond sure get to take a lot of vacations....I'm jealous

have a great time tho….hope you post a few pics on FB for us

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Sep 12, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Will do - BTW, my last vacation was almost a year ago.

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Sep 12, 2011 5:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

wow, seems like you just went....my bad

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Sep 12, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

NP - Don't worry about it

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Sep 12, 2011 5:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

time flies

Football? Football? What's a football?-Ralphie Parker

by katie casey on Sep 12, 2011 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have a great trip.

Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the ground each morning the devil says, "OH CRAP, SHE'S UP"!

by sue369 on Sep 12, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not watching.

I’m going to a JV football game and am excited to go. I’ll be glad when this season is over.

Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the ground each morning the devil says, "OH CRAP, SHE'S UP"!

by sue369 on Sep 12, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Congrats and happy travels!

Baseball is pitching, offensive production, baserunning and defense.

by daver on Sep 12, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...

between Lopez or food poisoning…I take Lopez every time.

Football? Football? What's a football?-Ralphie Parker

by katie casey on Sep 12, 2011 4:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Is 'Food Poisoning' Ramon Ortiz's new nickname?

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 12, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe it should be.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 12, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or maybe it's Doug Davis.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 12, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow.

Was he on the team THIS year? Seems like about 10 years ago.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 12, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

My scrap-heapitis actually made me excited about that move for about 10 minutes.

Of course, it’s possible that I was excited about the fact that James Russell wouldn’t be starting anymore.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 12, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Russell...

… has a 1.007 WHIP and 1.93 ERA in 54 relief appearances this year. He’s been excellent in relief.

If only a certain manager had just left him there.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 12, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Totally agree.

Russell is a reason the Cubs could try to trade Sean Marshall this offseason, IMO.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 12, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sold on that.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 12, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's an option, I think.

At least he’s done it before with some success.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 12, 2011 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agee completely!

A lot of folks on here say they want to get CJ Wilson (who was converted to starter I believe)—-we already may have a version of him in Sean Marshall.

by gettysburg35 on Sep 12, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Every time I've seen him in person, they won.

So I like him.

Football? Football? What's a football?-Ralphie Parker

by katie casey on Sep 12, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry. No.

Football? Football? What's a football?-Ralphie Parker

by katie casey on Sep 12, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well then... all together now...

… “Clearly, we are doomed.”

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by Al Yellon on Sep 12, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

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by katie casey on Sep 12, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup...

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Sep 12, 2011 4:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm okay with this lineup

…wait NO I’M NOT.

I’m going to be that guy today: Why the F is Baker starting at first? Is it so silly to ask LaHair to play his only natural position for a night while he’s up for the month?

"We push bunt, we squeeze bunt, we hit and run, we steal home!" - Larry Cox (I think...) on the 1989 NL East Champion Chicago Cubs

by PacificCub on Sep 12, 2011 4:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I want to be "that guy" too.

So I’ll point out that since the All-Star break, Jeff “Untouchable” Baker has a .487 OPS.

And he’s our cleanup hitter tonight.

by Jody Jody Davis on Sep 12, 2011 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has a new name.

Jeff “FREAKING UNTOUCHABLE” Baker.

Thanks to elgato!

by ubercubsfan on Sep 12, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the tip

I’ll be sure to refer to Baker that way for as long as he remains a Cub.

Which will be forever, of course, since he’s FREAKING UNTOUCHABLE!!!!

by Jody Jody Davis on Sep 12, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know, I've also wondered why managers like to have a lineup completely made up of righties against a lefty.

Isn’t there some rationale to have one lefty in there, just to help keep the starting pitcher from getting in a groove? Moreover, if this game goes into extras, the Cubs have ONE right handed bat of the bench (unless I’m forgetting someone).

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 12, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dear Cubs, if you play slowly, very slowly, I will listen to your win tomorrow morning, like I did this morning.

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Sep 12, 2011 4:33 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I was joking...

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Sep 12, 2011 4:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lineup

Q can’t deal with the rookies success. By not playing LaHair at first when he could shows he doesn’t get it. He’s committed to playing the vets. It would have been a chance to see how LaHair does there, but maybe Q doesn’t want to see how he does in his natural position. Couldn’t he have put Baker in CF and saved Byrd for pinch hitting?

by mixandmatch on Sep 12, 2011 4:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Baker in CF?

Um, no. That would make for a horrific defensive outfield.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 12, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

That would be as terrible as playing DeWitt in LF or LaHair at 1B.

If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.

by tharr on Sep 12, 2011 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

That does solve it and we could see how LaHair does at first.

by mixandmatch on Sep 12, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Later, friends.

Thanks for all the well wishes. I need to run an errand or 12 before I leave later this week.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 12, 2011 5:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Watch the game!

Or you’ll miss Marlon Byrd’s 5-RBI night!!!

Baseball is pitching, offensive production, baserunning and defense.

by daver on Sep 12, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

David, if Byrd ever gets a 5 RBI game,

I’ll buy you dinner at Alinea or Mastros.

"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo

by chilango2 on Sep 12, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never been to either place.

So I’m looking forward to it!

Baseball is pitching, offensive production, baserunning and defense.

by daver on Sep 12, 2011 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Ever" with the Cubs, that is.

Oh, hell. He’ll never ever get 5 RBI ever in his career, so let’s not restrict it to Chicago.

"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo

by chilango2 on Sep 12, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I couldn't do the recap this morning.

Did you all make poo of the horrible, smarmy, imbecilic TV broadcast from last night? I don’t recall watching such poor coverage of a baseball game.

"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo

by chilango2 on Sep 12, 2011 5:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes. It was awful.

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by katie casey on Sep 12, 2011 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was extra-satisfying that the Cubs won...

…because it foiled the ESPN broadcast team’s repeated efforts to will the Mets to victory.

Baseball is pitching, offensive production, baserunning and defense.

by daver on Sep 12, 2011 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is that what they were talking about?

I had them on mute. I just couldn’t stand how they kept showing them instead of the game.

Football? Football? What's a football?-Ralphie Parker

by katie casey on Sep 12, 2011 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

They just kept dwelling on the fact that it was Sept. 11...

…and the game was in New York and how great it would be for the home team to win. It was clear that they had a storyline to stick to.

Baseball is pitching, offensive production, baserunning and defense.

by daver on Sep 12, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

And they also missed a bunch of pitches

to focus on Mike Piazza speaking.

"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo

by chilango2 on Sep 12, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mute is my friend.

Football? Football? What's a football?-Ralphie Parker

by katie casey on Sep 12, 2011 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good to see Colvin in there after a 2-5 performance...

Oh, he must be tired from playing so much!

feet firmly nailed to the floor of the Tyler Colvin bandwagon...

by wrigleyrocker12 on Sep 12, 2011 5:20 PM CDT reply actions  

And LaHair

He must have taken too many pitches last night

by bazfan1234 on Sep 12, 2011 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Colvin's OPS is well over 800 since Sept 6...

Wait, he’s only played in 3 games since then, and 1 of them was only 1 inning. My bad!

feet firmly nailed to the floor of the Tyler Colvin bandwagon...

by wrigleyrocker12 on Sep 12, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Excited about overtaking the Pirates for 4th place...

…could this possibly be what really excites us all as Cubs’ fans? I know many will say, “hey, got to keep some optimism and enjoy the season for what it is at this point”. However, I’m sorry but my hopes climb a bit higher and look out a bit further into the future. We should not be trying to lose of course, but we MUST play the young guys more to see what they are capable of for the future, so we can have a more clear and productive off-season. Yes, you can’t sit the veterans down for the final 2/3 weeks, but really, a more productive balance must be struck. I cannot believe Quade’s direction…worse, I cannot fathom anyone higher sitting the man down and explaining this longer term vision to him. At this point, I cannot get excited about going over 500 the final 2 weeks, but I could be excited about a longer term vision, and I for one see no clear vision at this point. Anyone else agree, or am I off my rocker here?

by jtcitrus on Sep 12, 2011 5:26 PM CDT reply actions  

::Looks at line-up::

::Shakes head and counts the 17 days to the end of the Quade “era”.::

"Stuff like this is why they should shut off the internet."

by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST

by fsuapollo on Sep 12, 2011 5:31 PM CDT reply actions  

::Looks at line-up::

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 12, 2011 5:41 PM CDT reply actions  

::Looks at the above animated GIF::

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Sep 12, 2011 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

...

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Sep 12, 2011 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by cooliogirl47 on Sep 12, 2011 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's time for Cubs' Baseball, so jump, if you dare.


 
Guten Nacht and be careful…

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Sep 12, 2011 6:11 PM CDT reply actions  

No new thread

"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo

by chilango2 on Sep 12, 2011 6:11 PM CDT reply actions  

But there is this one

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Sep 12, 2011 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

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