Chicago Cubs vs. Houston Astros Preview, Friday 9/16, 1:20 CT: Historic Lows
This oughta be fun.
The last time there was a game at Wrigley Field between two teams that have as many or more combined losses than the Cubs and Astros do entering today (183, 85 by the Cubs and 98 by the Astros) was on September 29, 2002. The Cubs entered that day with 95 losses and the Pirates had 88, a total of 187. The Cubs won the game 7-3 (amuse yourself by checking out the lineups for both teams, especially the identity of one of the Pirates who homered that day) -- the last game of the 2002 season.
If the Cubs can win the first two games of this series, they'll give Houston their 100th loss on Saturday. If that happens, there's a little bit more of Cubs history to be claimed. I won't spoil the surprise until and unless that happens.
Hey, we have to have something left of interest this year, right? The Cubs can still finish 2011 with a winning home record, but they'd have to sweep this entire homestand to do it. That's not very likely.
And I'm going to mention this one more time. The Cubs should have been given the courtesy of a day game in Cincinnati yesterday. The Astros played a day game against the Phillies at home on Wednesday and so will have had almost two days off before the game this afternoon. This happened in August, too; the Cubs played a night game in Pittsburgh on Aug. 4, while the Reds enjoyed their off day in Chicago before the teams played on Friday, Aug. 6.
It's not whining or "playing the victim", as someone accused the Cubs of doing yesterday in the comments to one post here. It's simple fairness by MLB. Other teams schedule day games on getaway day; the Reds should have done so on Thursday. And as I have mentioned before, the city of Chicago should allow the Cubs to play two or three Friday night home games coming off road trips like this one. Today should have been one of those; instead, the Cubs arrived home about 1 a.m.
Cubs lineup:
Castro ss, Barney 2b, Ramirez 3b, Baker rf, Byrd cf, Pena 1b, Soriano lf, Soto c, Garza p
Astros lineup:
Schafer cf, Altuve 2b, Martinez lf, Lee 1b, Bogusevic rf, Paredes 3b, Barmes ss, Corporan c, Rodriguez p
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Matt Garza has just one start against the Astros this year, on July 24 at Wrigley Field, part of the three-game sweep the Cubs gave the Astros that weekend. He even had an RBI single that day. Current Astros are hitting just .172 (5-for-29) against him, although he might want to avoid Clint Barmes, who has two of those hits, both home runs.
The Cubs have defeated Wandy Rodriguez twice this year and Wandy has a 5.25 ERA in those two starts. In the 12 innings he's thrown he has given up three home runs, to Alfonso Soriano, Marlon Byrd and Geovany Soto. More of the same today, please.
Today's game is on CSN Chicago and my-20 in Houston. Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Please visit our SB Nation Astros site Crawfish Boxes.
Today's first pitch thread will be up at 1:20 p.m. CDT and the overflow threads will post at 2:15 pm, 3:15 pm and 4 pm CDT. If you need more overflows due to extra innings or rain delays, post them in the fanshot section.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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I don't like whining about the lineup but
I’d like to see LaHair against a tough lefty. I don’t care about Colvin but LaHair could fill a bench role for the 2012 Cubs.
John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.
I don't either but this one really blows my mind.
Totally with you on LaHair. Maybe Q will do a double switch in the 2nd to get him in the game… It certainly wouldn’t surprise me!
And why does Baker bat cleanup every time he starts?
by Jody Jody Davis on Sep 16, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Fire Quade!
I would love to live in Chicago! I would go to every game with a huge banner saying “Fire Quade for goodness sake”.
We'll win... Someday!
by karlitodj79 on Sep 16, 2011 1:18 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
They've stuck with Quade
for a long time. They could have replaced him earlier in the season, but they either don’t really care or think they’re going to be able to get a good manager in the offseason that they wouldn’t get midseason. Or maybe if they are chasing Beane, they want to use him to lure a big manager.
by ddoubleheader on Sep 16, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
say it ain't so!
I hope you are wrong (probably not) but if this guy manages the team next year, we will see nothing but the same results!
We'll win... Someday!
by karlitodj79 on Sep 16, 2011 5:52 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
I really hope we only have 2 more weeks of Jeff Baker in cleanup.
John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.
this is what I Imagine
Quade says “hey Hairsie you saw like 15 pitches yesterday that must have really worn you out, so were going to sit you today since byrd and sori only saw 5 each.”
disclaimer: I dont know how many pitches each of those players saw. It was a joke. Please do not look up actual facts to prove above statement false.
Marilyn Monroe "yogi your a pretty cool guy"
Berra " Marilyn you ain't so hot yourself"!
Great I get the outfield of Sori, Byrd & Baker
I was so looking forward to seeing new players these last few games I am in for.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Sep 16, 2011 12:10 PM CDT reply actions
Good to see DJ get a start vs a LHP....
Wait……
Well Pena just kills Lefties….
Wait…..
Well DJ has never started at 1b…..
Wait…..
Reds broadcasters were critical of the Reds
…for scheduling a night game yesterday. They said it should be common courtesy to other teams.
They were also critical of Quade for not giving more playing time to Campana near his hometown.
Eamus Catuli!
by wrigley_boy on Sep 16, 2011 12:19 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Which he did!
Byrd, with 31 RBI, is now tied with Ronny Cedeno.
Look out, Emilio Bonifacio and Miguel Cairo (32 RBI) – you’re next!
by Jody Jody Davis on Sep 16, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
LMAO!! Sadly, it's probably true!
Quade is the biggest idiot the Cubs have ever employed as manager, ever! The lineup against the ‘stros should be ALL youngsters since neither team is involved in a pennant race. I guess they know for sure that Colvin won’t be part of the picture for 2012, otherwise they’d be playing him everyday, right?? If so, don’t even bother inviting him to spring training next year, so we don’t have to keep hoping he learns to hit again.
"Go Cubs!"
F Quade in the cram-hole with a broken broom handle...he's a goddam fool.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 16, 2011 12:25 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
And that gets a green thumb?
He’s lousy as a manager, but he’s not that bad.
by ddoubleheader on Sep 16, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Poor babies..... having only 8 hours before they play baseball
My boyfriend Sunday got in 3 hours earlier than the Cubs (it was suppose to more but his connecting was delayed) and still made it to work by a little after 8 am on Monday. His last full day off was labor day and does have this weekend off.
by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 16, 2011 12:33 PM CDT reply actions
IFHQ.
So i you can give you can take it.
by epsilon on Sep 16, 2011 12:38 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 4 recs
Is it just me, or...
Does Matt Garza look kind of like Nomar Garciaparra?
Should be interesting to see if Baker can hold down RF for next year.
Looks to be a strong lineup, let’s see if we can’t get Matty his ninth win. That will mean a lot to him.
Matt Garza = Wandy Rodriguez
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 16, 2011 1:13 PM CDT reply actions
I noticed that too.
They are nearly identical in every category but BB’s and HR’s allowed. So basically our best starting pitcher is having the same type of year as the Astro’s? That’s really not a knock against Garza since Wandy is having a pretty good year with all things considered but I really hope to see some upgrades in our rotation somehow this offseason.
Ugh
This is getting on my nerves! Same line up everytime. Play the call ups with more consistency Quade! My goodness! We aren’t going nowhere! This is our spring training before spring training.
We'll win... Someday!
by karlitodj79 on Sep 16, 2011 1:16 PM CDT via iPhone app reply actions
Quade Fires Self
I think Quade just fired himself by leaving Garza in this game after he gave up the lead-off single in the ninth.

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