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Chicago Cubs vs. St. Louis Cardinals Preview, Friday 9/23, 7:15 CT: And Then There Were Six

In case you think the Cubs are the only team that's had ninth-inning meltdowns this year, check out what the Mets did to the Cardinals on Thursday -- in a game that the Cardinals really, really needed:

- J. Motte relieved O. Dotel - W. Harris walked - N. Evans safe at first on shortstop R. Furcal's fielding error, W. Harris to second - J. Thole flied out to center - J. Pridie hit for J. Satin - J. Pridie walked, W. Harris to third, N. Evans to second - J. Turner hit for M. Acosta - J. Turner walked, W. Harris scored, N. Evans to third, J. Pridie to second - M. Rzepczynski relieved J. Motte - J. Reyes singled to shallow right center, N. Evans scored, J. Pridie to third, J. Turner to second - F. Salas relieved M. Rzepczynski - R. Tejada doubled to left, J. Pridie and J. Turner scored, J. Reyes to third - A. Pagan intentionally walked - D. Wright struck out swinging - W. Harris singled to shallow right, J. Reyes and R. Tejada scored, A. Pagan to third, W. Harris to second on right fielder S. Schumaker's fielding error - N. Evans flied out to right center

That's a six-run inning and the first time the Mets had come back from a four-run deficit in the ninth inning or later since 1973.

Perhaps the Cubs can continue that favor tonight, or maybe even do it before the ninth. Last year, the Cubs went in to San Diego during the season's final week and took three of four, which essentially put the Padres out of the playoffs. Maybe they can do the same to the Cardinals tonight.

There is still a plausible scenario which could result in a three-way tie for the NL wild card; if the Braves go 1-5 (possible, since they have had a bad September and have to play the Phillies), Cardinals go 3-3, and Giants go 5-1 (they're hot right now), all three teams would wind up 89-73. Watch Bud Selig's head explode if that happens! More on three-way ties here (written by me for Baseball Nation). We could have one in the American League, too.

The Cubs still have a couple of things to play for. A 4-2 road trip will finish the season at 89 losses, avoiding a 90-loss year; and any record better than the Pirates over the final six games will clinch fourth place for the Cubs. Hey, it's something.

Cubs lineup:

Castro SS, Barney 2B, LaHair RF, Peña 1B, Soriano LF, Byrd CF, LeMahieu 3B, Hill C, Dempster P

I assume Hill is playing because there's a day game Saturday.

Cardinals lineup:

Jay cf, Punto ss, Pujols 1b, Berkman rf, Freese 3b, Molina c, Schumaker lf, Theriot 2b, Carpenter, p

Star-divide

Today's Starting Pitchers
Ryan Dempster
Ryan Dempster
Cubs
vs. Chris Carpenter
Chris Carpenter
Cardinals
10-13 W-L 10-9
4.63 ERA 3.66
179 SO 3
72 BB 3
21 HR 1
vs. StL -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2011 - Ryan Dempster 10-13 33 32 0 0 0 0 190.2 199 101 98 21 72 179 4.63 1.42


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2011 - Chris Carpenter 10-9 32 32 3 1 0 0 221.1 236 97 90 16 52 175 3.66 1.30

In another of Mike Quade's misguided "respect the veterans" moves, he is giving Ryan Dempster two more starts, today and the last day of the season next Wednesday, in an attempt to get Dempster to the 200-inning mark for the fourth straight year. On the other hand, after a horrendous April, Dempster has been very good since May 1: a 3.66 ERA and 1.149 WHIP in 26 starts. The team has gone 15-11 in those starts and Dempster has given up just 12 HR in 159⅔ innings. However, he hasn't been so good vs. St. Louis in two starts (both of which are in that post-May 1 time frame): 7.36 ERA, 1.727 WHIP. Let's hope for better results tonight.

In Chris Carpenter's last start against the Cubs, June 5 in St. Louis, he threw nine innings and gave up two runs. He should have lost, but Carlos Marmol decided to throw Ryan Theriot a fastball with two strikes, two out and the lead. Theriot hit a double, tying the game, and ... well, you don't need to hear the rest. Aramis Ramirez is a .368 lifetime hitter vs. Carpenter, and not in a small sample size, either -- 25-for-68 with six doubles and two home runs, but then Ramirez isn't playing tonight. Actually, all current Cubs hit Carpenter pretty well -- .292 (77-for-264) with six home runs.

Today's game is on CSN Chicago and FSN Midwest. Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.

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Today's first pitch thread will be up at 7:15 p.m. CDT and the overflow threads will post at 8:15 pm, 9:15 pm and 10 pm CDT. If you need more overflows due to extra innings or rain delays, post them in the fanshot section.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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This isn't a complaint about the lineup

But it seems like Colvin got all the chances he’s going to get from Quade this year:(

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Berra " Marilyn you ain't so hot yourself"!

by Notsnud on Sep 23, 2011 5:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Apparently.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 23, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure seems that way.

Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the ground each morning the devil says, "OH CRAP, SHE'S UP"!

by sue369 on Sep 23, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree! We sure know what he's capable of

Would be nice to see someone else play the last five games, but I’m sure Quade is playing the best lineup he can so as to not get accused of playing light when the race is still on. Too bad, I’d prefer he play the kids to give them more playing time. I sure will be glad when Quade’s gone. Nothing personal I just think we need a better manager. I wish him well when and if he goes.

by Saratoga on Sep 23, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or Quade is playing the best lineup

because, delusional as he is, he thinks he has a shot at returning if the Cubs finish strong again

by NYShep on Sep 23, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was hoping to see Clevenger.

I think we know everything we need to know about Hill.

by BVictor on Sep 23, 2011 5:28 PM CDT reply actions  

I forgot they brought him up.

I guess Quade did too.

Seeya Jimbo! Good job, Tommy Boy!

by shoemile on Sep 23, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is a really nice guy!!

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by eswan9 on Sep 23, 2011 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

And

Quade must go.

The end!

by Swoosie on Sep 23, 2011 5:31 PM CDT reply actions  

2 outta 3 from the Cards should close the book on the 2011 Cardinals...

…that would be nice heading into the off season.

"When I came up to bat with three men on and two outs in the ninth, I looked in the other team's dugout and they were already in street clothes." - Bob Uecker

by Easy Ed on Sep 23, 2011 5:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Hard to having any feelings either way

It’s been a long, difficult season. A loss no longer bothers me. Hopefully something great will built from the ruins of this season.

by Saratoga on Sep 23, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

A loss to the Cardinals always bothers me.

Football? Football? What's a football?-Ralphie Parker

by katie casey on Sep 23, 2011 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is A-Ram day to day?

Wondering if he’s gonna play it all in the last six games

by doofus cubs guy on Sep 23, 2011 5:43 PM CDT reply actions  

He is day to day

And most likely will not play the rest of the season is what i have heard

by cubs1201 on Sep 23, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

He wants to make certain he's as healthy as can be for his "Free Agency"...

…and I can’t blame him for that.

"When I came up to bat with three men on and two outs in the ninth, I looked in the other team's dugout and they were already in street clothes." - Bob Uecker

by Easy Ed on Sep 23, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is day to day.

This is the last I heard.

Football? Football? What's a football?-Ralphie Parker

by katie casey on Sep 23, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't even know how the Cards recover

Losing to the Mets like that is such an awful, awful gut punch to endure. If they’re going to be great, they need to finish strong. I think, or at least hope, they crumple.

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by Craig in South Bend on Sep 23, 2011 6:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Scoreboard watching

Braves score 3 in the first up 3-0 in the 2nd

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either

by Doggie Stalker on Sep 23, 2011 6:55 PM CDT reply actions  

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