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Alfonso Soriano's Home Run Helps Cubs Eliminate Cardinals From NL Central Race

Alfonso Soriano of the Chicago Cubs hits a three-run home run against the St. Louis Cardinals at Busch Stadium in St. Louis, Missouri.  (Photo by Jeff Curry/Getty Images)

I like good, down-to-the-last-day pennant races; earlier this month it didn't look like we'd have any, but some good runs by teams like the Giants and Rays helped baseball go into the final week of the season with the wild cards still in doubt.

At the same time, I'm always happy to see the Cardinals eliminated from postseason play, and it's even better when the Cubs do it. Friday night brought the bizarre sight of a full house at Miller Park in Milwaukee cheering loudly for the Cubs when the Cubs weren't even playing there.

The Brewers defeated the Marlins in Milwaukee in a game that ended about 9:40 p.m., clinching a tie for the division title for the Brewers. At the time, the Cubs and Cardinals were still locked in a 1-1 tie, but very shortly thereafter, Alfonso Soriano smacked a three-run homer off Kyle McClellan. If the roof hadn't been closed at Miller Park you might have been able to hear the cheering all the way to St. Louis.

The Cubs added a run in the ninth inning and defeated the Cardinals 5-1; that made the Brewers NL Central champions, only the second division title in their history and first as an NL team. I'm not fond of the Brewers and their antics, but congratulations to them. They earned it; now they'll await their first-round playoff opponent. They currently lead the Diamondbacks by one game in the overall standings; if it finishes that way and the Braves win the wild card, Milwaukee will play Atlanta. If Arizona passes them, the Brewers play the Phillies; if, somehow, the Cardinals or Giants pass up the Braves (even more unlikely after both of them lost Friday night), the Brewers and Diamondbacks would meet up.

Star-divide

Further congratulations are due Starlin Castro, who took all the suspense out of waiting for him to reach the 200-hit milestone by hitting Chris Carpenter's second pitch in the first inning for a single. It is the 21st 200-hit season in Cubs history; it's been done by 17 different players (Billy Herman did it three times; Kiki Cuyler twice). Castro, at 21, is the youngest to do so and, hopefully, it is the first of many for him. He singled again in the ninth inning to drive in the Cubs' fifth and final run. With five games remaining in the season, he has a chance to move up several spots on the team all-time list. At 201, he is currently tied with Charlie Hollocher (1922), Billy Williams (1964) and Bill Buckner (1982).

Kudos also to Ryan Dempster, who finally had a good game against the Cardinals this season after two bad starts earlier in the year. He gave up just one run in six innings, even while struggling with command (six walks). That leaves Dempster just 3.1 innings short of the precious 200-inning milestone that Mike Quade rejiggered his entire rotation for. Dempster will start the final game of the season Wednesday in San Diego.

By then we will have actually seen Steve Clevenger start a game. Len Kasper mentioned on the telecast that Clevenger is likely to start Monday's game in San Diego, with Geovany Soto starting the rest of the way. So -- for those of you who have been on Koyie Hill's case all year, you have probably seen the last of him in a Cubs uniform.

The Cubs will have a rare opportunity the rest of the weekend. The Cardinals' elimination number from the wild card race is three; if the Cubs can beat St. Louis twice while the Braves win once (or one Cubs win and two Atlanta victories), the Cubs will have helped eliminate St. Louis from two playoff races in one weekend. Good times.

They'll play again early this afternoon. The game preview will post at 10:45 a.m. CDT.

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nice win!

It couldn’t be more fitting for the cubs to be the team to knock St Louis out of at least the NL central race. Let’s hope for another win today and make it that much harder for them to get the wild card.

by cubbiefanTN on Sep 24, 2011 7:45 AM CDT via iPhone app reply actions  

Must be the site

It isn’t displaying on the main page for me either. I think once Al creates the post, he has to also has to publish it to the main page, and there probably was a problem with that part of it.

by adam316 on Sep 24, 2011 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Via the mobile version of BCB - No problems noticed

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Sep 24, 2011 8:47 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I had the same problem for a while.

When I posted it, it was on the front page. Then it disappeared. Now it appears to be back.

I know SBN was doing some system maintenance last night. Maybe that has something to do with it.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 24, 2011 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

A big smile breaks out on my face...

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Sep 24, 2011 8:44 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I LOL'd
the Cubs will have helped eliminate St. Louis from two playoff races in one weekend. Good times.

^^This

by adam316 on Sep 24, 2011 8:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Does not make up for this dismal season, but

eliminating the Cards feels good, especially doing it in StL.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Sep 24, 2011 8:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Eliminating the Cardinals twice...

a very hollow victory for me. I can’t get excited over that after this year.

John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.

by rlpete on Sep 24, 2011 8:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Look at it this way..

.. sweeping your biggest rival at the most important time of the season? It will be the new GM’s justification for bringing Quade back to finish his contract, rather than paying him off to go away. So we’ve got that to look forward to.

by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Sep 24, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

God...I hope you're wrong about The Quades return...

"So sad, This Cubbie Thing" Courtesy of E-Man, 6/25/2011

by jeffstorm2 on Sep 24, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

It will be the new GM’s justification for bringing Quade back to finish his contract, rather than paying him off to go away.

I doubt it. That’s Jim Hendry’s MO, not other GM’s.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 24, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

/silently praying for Al to be right here.../

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by jeffstorm2 on Sep 24, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

If we hire some GM who can't see how bad Quade is...

I don’t want to think about that. I think the Ricketts are smarter than that.

by LT on Sep 24, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good Morning LT

Lets hope you’re right

"So sad, This Cubbie Thing" Courtesy of E-Man, 6/25/2011

by jeffstorm2 on Sep 24, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

what to make of Sori?

25 HR 84 RBI pretty productive yet we all want him gone, badly….at least he’s improved his trade value as a DH. I think he’ll have a similar year next year low BA and OBP and shaky defense make him a liability but he sure tries!! Coulda been a Hall of Famer if ever learned some plate discipline.

by QuincyCub on Sep 24, 2011 9:07 AM CDT reply actions  

yeah

nice numbers but not for 18 mill a year.and yet the cubs are willing to give him away and pay most of his salary.gotta be an a.l. team out there who would want that kind of production out of their dh for 5 mill a year.we’ll see what the new gm can do.what a mess this team is.with ramirez and pena both possibly gone the remaining players better start thinking SMALL BALL.

by NOMAR on Sep 24, 2011 9:17 AM CDT reply actions  

Let's be realistic.

The Cubs are going eat most of Zambrano’s contract. They can’t afford to eat Soriano’s too. And if Ramirez walks, they need somebody who can hit for power. If the re-sign Ramirez, they’ll definitely won’t be able to afford to dump Sori.

He’ll be back.

by Clark Addison on Sep 24, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Z's deal...

… is just one year’s worth. Maybe they can save half of it.

Thus I think they could afford to eat 75% of Soriano’s.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 24, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Love beating the Cardinals.

A LOT.

We'll miss you Big Boy. #10 for Hall of Fame.

by mrcubsfan on Sep 24, 2011 9:21 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Weird feelings....

I would rather the brewers face the diamondbacks….because I’m going to pull for the NL central in the playoffs. So weirdly I’ll be rooting for the Cards to get the wild card.

So i you can give you can take it.

by epsilon on Sep 24, 2011 9:24 AM CDT reply actions  

I too will be rooting for Da Crew in Playoffs

I’m thinking their SPs and Pen takes them further than the Cards will/would go…so gimme Atlanta in the WC if you please. I don’t dislike ATL and we’ve fared well with them in the post-season…we’ve just gotta find a way to bury that GD Tomahawk Chop!!!

"So sad, This Cubbie Thing" Courtesy of E-Man, 6/25/2011

by jeffstorm2 on Sep 24, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

No can do

Tigers? Maybe the Phiwwies?

I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.

by timh815 on Sep 24, 2011 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Phils

must be favored… but, a boy can dream, can’t he? :] (As usual, Yanks in AL I’s guess)

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by jeffstorm2 on Sep 24, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't like the Brewers.

So anyone who plays them, I’m rooting for that team.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 24, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tho I don't

really like the Crew…I do like how they were able to improve (rather dramatically) in so short a period of time. (equals hope for our Cubbies)

"So sad, This Cubbie Thing" Courtesy of E-Man, 6/25/2011

by jeffstorm2 on Sep 24, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did they improve that much

or did the division fizzle?

I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.

by timh815 on Sep 24, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Touche!

(But, I think a little of both)

"So sad, This Cubbie Thing" Courtesy of E-Man, 6/25/2011

by jeffstorm2 on Sep 24, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Adding 2 starting pitchers was a major leg up for the Brewers

The offense, they already had.

Unfortunately, the Cubs need both…..

by ClarkFan on Sep 24, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

^This^

(And they didn’t have the Soriano, Fuke, Z, Demp, Aram etc messes to deal with…)

"So sad, This Cubbie Thing" Courtesy of E-Man, 6/25/2011

by jeffstorm2 on Sep 24, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shocker!

Your hatred bleeds through regularly. I think you do a very good job of not having it effect your writing, but your comments are predictably biased.

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Sep 24, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yankees

"When I came up to bat with three men on and two outs in the ninth, I looked in the other team's dugout and they were already in street clothes." - Bob Uecker

by Easy Ed on Sep 24, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

No sophomore or SI jinx for Starlin...

What a talent! Now, if he can just use the last five games to go into double-digits in triples, the look of his stat line will be all the more impressive as he heads into a Year 3 that should look somthing like this: .322/.385; 25 HR; 83 RBI; 32 2B; 13 3b; 17/23 SB; .820 OPS. In short, Hanley Ramirez without the attitude.

"Elder White! Look at the talent on those Cubs!" Harry Caray, KMOX Radio, 4/22/62

"And you have to wonder – What's the matter with Broglio?" Harry, KMOX, 5/24/64

by ernaga on Sep 24, 2011 9:26 AM CDT reply actions  

not so sure.

Yes his offensive WAR is 4.0, a great start for a 21 year old but his defensive WAR is -1.8 worse than his rookie defensive WAR of -1.2

This means Castro at 2B is giving up 18 more runs against MLB average defensive shortstop but is producing more offensive WAR than A Ramirez who has an offensive WAR of 3.6 and a defensive WAR of -0.9….

As Ramirez has said he is seeking greener happenings somewhere else, (and a WAR analysis says that is a good thing), move Castro over to 3B…Cubs will benefit in that I suspect that Castro will improve 25% in offensive WAR to a 5.0 level while if he just does what Ramirez does it equals some of ARamirez’s best WAR years of ’04, ’07 & ’08

Cubs need to look at SS even moving Barney to SS would improve defensive WAR by 2 pts….or acquiring Reyes who has a 5.0 WAR and a 5.5 offensive WAR and -.05 defensive….move Reyes to 2B and Castro to 3B and WAR says you have vastly improved the team.

A friend once told me: "I don't buy the idea that a team learns anything from a loss, the only thing they learn is how to lose games."---Knight

by Ivy Walls on Sep 24, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

correction
This means Castro at 2B is giving up 18 more runs against MLB average defensive shortstop but is producing more offensive WAR than A Ramirez who has an offensive WAR of 3.6 and a defensive WAR of -0.9…

change to Castro at SS….

A friend once told me: "I don't buy the idea that a team learns anything from a loss, the only thing they learn is how to lose games."---Knight

by Ivy Walls on Sep 24, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just from watching him

I think his defense has been much better in the second half of the season than in the first half. I think that he will improve defensively, a lot, in the upcoming years. I wouldn’t yet start talking about moving him anywhere.

by jerry morales rules on Sep 24, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ivy Walls is on the "Move Castro" bandwagon

in fact he is driving it.

I would not touch Castro until a new regime gives him at least one season to see what they can do. He has improved this year. Moving him now at his age is dumb especially considering the fact that 2012 could be another bad season. There is no point in it.

John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.

by rlpete on Sep 24, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

the problem is the math just isn't working on keeping him there

this is not me and some imaginism movement, simply looking at the math, -1.8 WAR defensively, down 0.6 from his rookie year is not a trend that is productive….regardless what your eyes are seeing.

His value right now is his developing offensive WAR now at 4.0 at 21 years old, that is the reality….regardless of the wishful thinking.

A friend once told me: "I don't buy the idea that a team learns anything from a loss, the only thing they learn is how to lose games."---Knight

by Ivy Walls on Sep 24, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

You forgot one piece of info - 21

He’s developing. The defensive WAR has a very good chance of improving, maybe even to a very positive number.

by jerry morales rules on Sep 24, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

He’s got everything necessary to be a great defensive SS. He has to improve mentally and hopefully that comes with age. I could see him being in the MVP conversation eventually. I’m not a Cubs fan and he’s one of my favorite players in baseball.

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Sep 24, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

You'd have to adjust your WAR estimates for Castro by moving him to 3B too, though

As those are based on position played. Castro’s offense is less valuable at 3B than it is at SS. Same for Reyes. So it’s not an apples to apples comparison between Castro’s WAR and Ramirez’s WAR.

You only would move Castro if you can add more WAR by doing so (assuming the same cost). Letting Ramirez walk and moving Castro to 3B and Barney to 2B would be a significant step backward, because the options at 2B are not going to be as good as Ramirez. Reyes might be an upgrade over Ramirez, but I doubt it. You’re giving away a LOT of offensive production (Ramirez has typically been a .370+ wOBA guy, Reyes has been a very up and down hitter year-to-year). It’s also important to note that Reyes has battled a lot of injuries the last three years.

We would definitely be better defensively with Reyes instead of Ramirez. But I don’t think WAR definitively says that replacing Ramirez with Reyes makes us a better team at all, let alone vastly better.

by SouthernCub on Sep 24, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's not unusual for young shortstops to make lots of errors.

And the Valentine thing has been blown way out of proportion. Castro has great range and a great arm.

Ernie Banks made more errors in his first two years than Castro. He went on to set records (since broken) for the highest shortstop fielding percentage and fewest errors in a season.

Castro is the best thing that’s happened to Cubs shortstopping since Ernie.

by Clark Addison on Sep 24, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

you are absolutely correct....

and yet it appears Ramirez is walking anyway….

A friend once told me: "I don't buy the idea that a team learns anything from a loss, the only thing they learn is how to lose games."---Knight

by Ivy Walls on Sep 24, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe...

or maybe he’s just negotiating. We’ll see. I’m hoping it’s just negotiating, because it will be very difficult to field a better team next without Ramirez.

by SouthernCub on Sep 24, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

of course he is but

even one year at $16 M with his WAR is not worth it.

A friend once told me: "I don't buy the idea that a team learns anything from a loss, the only thing they learn is how to lose games."---Knight

by Ivy Walls on Sep 24, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

SouthernCub, this might surprise you but if Castro remained in the lead off slot his wOBA is .399

that would lead all NL 3rd baseman since Sandoval is .380 and Ramirez is .371 and Jones is .351

the argument goes to an interesting one if Castro’s combined lead off and number two hitting slots are grouped where his wOBA is .372 on 492 PA….

A friend once told me: "I don't buy the idea that a team learns anything from a loss, the only thing they learn is how to lose games."---Knight

by Ivy Walls on Sep 24, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why not just give Clevenger ALL the starts in San Diego?

All freaking 3 of them. Its not like San Diego is in the playoff race.

by Nunyabidness on Sep 24, 2011 9:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Because.... ummmm....

Koyie Hill…. errrr….

Got nuthin

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by timh815 on Sep 24, 2011 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

The frightening possibility exists

that we could lose Soto tho, don’t it? I dunno…I got a hunch Cubs Org will “give up 2012” for a chance to contend sooner rather than later…

"So sad, This Cubbie Thing" Courtesy of E-Man, 6/25/2011

by jeffstorm2 on Sep 24, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hill's composite career WAR is -2.6

and 5 years on the Cubs he has a -2.1 which translates that an average AAAA or minor league true prospect that over the 5 years Hill is responsible for 2 more losses than a replacement player would have been.

This year it is -0.8 or basically 8 runs or almost 1 win….

A friend once told me: "I don't buy the idea that a team learns anything from a loss, the only thing they learn is how to lose games."---Knight

by Ivy Walls on Sep 24, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

G'mornin' Ivy Walls

I guess there you go again…muddyin’ up many a fantasy thru the use of facts! :] Yes, Hillie cannot, must not be our starter in 2012.

"So sad, This Cubbie Thing" Courtesy of E-Man, 6/25/2011

by jeffstorm2 on Sep 24, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

not even back up

if he is that good in the clubhouse, put him as a bullpen coach.

A friend once told me: "I don't buy the idea that a team learns anything from a loss, the only thing they learn is how to lose games."---Knight

by Ivy Walls on Sep 24, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I miss 'em already...

"So sad, This Cubbie Thing" Courtesy of E-Man, 6/25/2011

by jeffstorm2 on Sep 24, 2011 9:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Will Busch have

‘Going away day’ for FA vets who’ve been with the team more than a decade, like senior day in college?

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by timh815 on Sep 24, 2011 9:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Haha!

…whoya thinkin’ of timh815??? Hmmm…? (My gut says AP stays in StL when all’s said n done).

"So sad, This Cubbie Thing" Courtesy of E-Man, 6/25/2011

by jeffstorm2 on Sep 24, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

or tlr maybe

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by timh815 on Sep 24, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm... plot thickens

(But I can’t say I see TLR in Cubbie Blue in 2012)

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by jeffstorm2 on Sep 24, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

wouldn't stand

for the media scrutiny

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by timh815 on Sep 24, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cards bullpen sunk 'em

they blew a ton of games with franklin early on and now these last 2….they probably have had one of worst ’pens in NL and yet they hung in there with good rotation and lineup.

Matt Holliday however may turn into their Soriano in another year or two. Mark my word. Alan Craig is a more productive player right now.

by QuincyCub on Sep 24, 2011 10:06 AM CDT reply actions  

why the objection to changing the rotation to give Dempster the final start?

if you review the schedule, you will see that the pitcher that would have otherwise been in line to pitch the finale is tonight’s pitcher, Rodrigo Lopez. We have already established that Lopez is nothing more than filler, and unlikely to anything more than a spring training invite in 2012. Nobody else was affected by the juggling. I am not a big Quade fan, and I hope that he is replaced soon, however with regards to giving Dempster the final 2011 start, Quade got this 100% correct.

by holy mackeral on Sep 24, 2011 10:48 AM CDT reply actions  

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