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Cubs, Pirates Must Be Getting Paid By The Hour; Cubs Win 6-3

There's your guy: Bryan LaHair of the Chicago Cubs follows through on an RBi single scoring teammate Aramis Ramirez during the sixth inning against the Pittsburgh Pirates at Wrigley Field in Chicago, Illinois. The Cubs won 6-3.  (Photo by Brian Kersey/Getty Images)

Once upon a time, major league baseball teams used to play games of about two hours, or a little more, with regularity.

Then, multiple mid-inning pitching changes lengthened the games. And then, longer TV commercial breaks allotted between innings tacked on more minutes (think about it: every extra 30-second commercial between every half inning adds 18 minutes to a game).

The Chicago Cubs and Pittsburgh Pirates took all of this to extremes over the weekend at Wrigley Field, each successive game being longer than the one preceding it. Game times were 3:24 (Friday), 3:25 (Saturday, not even including the 91-minute rain delay) and 3:28 on Sunday, a total of 10 hours and 17 minutes of exciting baseball play.

I did say exciting, right? Well, that may not be completely true. Pitchers in this series combined to issue 26 walks and 54 hits; 57 runners were left on base and only by sheer volume of hits (10) and walks (nine) today did the Cubs finally outlast the Pirates 6-3 and salvage one game of this final series between the two teams for 2011. The win gave the Cubs a split of the season series with Pittsburgh, eight wins each, even though the Cubs were outscored in the 16 games, 77-64.

Star-divide

Randy Wells had a shaky first two innings in which he threw more than 50 pitches, but allowed only one run after he got out of a bases loaded, nobody out jam. See? It's not just the Cubs who do that. After that he was almost as sharp as he was in San Francisco last Monday. In throwing six solid innings, he lowered his season ERA to 4.86 and in his last five starts, it's 2.14, with only 23 hits and eight walks allowed in 33.2 innings (0.92 WHIP). Wells is looking much more like the Wells of 2009, or of the second half of 2010; I believe this indicates he probably came back too soon from the April injury. A strong finish this year -- he should get four more starts -- will be a good base to build on for 2012.

As I mentioned, the Cubs drew nine walks and had runners on base in every inning. Even though they left 13, they had enough hits in key situations to take a 5-1 lead. Some shoddy defense from former Cub Ronny Cedeno helped, as did a likely missed call on a tag play at first base. Marlon Byrd drove in a pair of runs, his first multi-RBI game since August 7, and Koyie Hill singled, scored in a run and had an unusual RBI groundout.

Bryan LaHair, making his first appearance -- and start -- for the Cubs since his recall, had a pair of hits and reached base on a second error by Cedeno. The second LaHair hit blooped into left field and scored a hustling -- yes, I said hustling -- Aramis Ramirez from second base. LaHair made one putout in left field; hard to tell how good (or not) he is out there, because he barely touched the ball. Byrd called him off a couple of fly balls that he (LaHair) might otherwise have made a play on.

It appeared that Mike Quade had no intention of getting Carlos Marmol into this game -- Sean Marshall started warming up to close when the score was still 5-3. When the Cubs added an insurance run in the eighth, Marshall kept loosening up and John Grabow also got up in case the game got out of a save situation. Marshall gave up a pinch-hit single to Ryan Doumit but otherwise retired the Pirates unscathed, for his fourth save of the season.

I'm really looking forward to the Reds coming to town. Why? Because there can't be any way possible that they could play as slowly as the Pirates did this weekend. Only two other nine-inning games at Wrigley Field this year were longer than the three in this series: a 10-8 win over the Dodgers on April 23 and a 4-3 loss to the Yankees on June 18. 327 pitches were thrown on Sunday; unlike Friday, there were fewer foul balls. 57 pitches were fouled off, 17.4% of the total; my understanding is that number is pretty close to a normal percentage of foul balls in most games.

Unlike Saturday, Sunday was a gorgeous day with low humidity and sunshine and late-summerish temperatures in the lower 70s. A few clouds scudded by and there was a breeze blowing in most of the day, which did not prevent Neil Walker's two-run homer off Jeff Samardzija. The surprisingly large announced crowd of 40,469 apparently included quite a big walkup sale, probably due to the nice weather. There were many fewer no-shows on Sunday than on most recent home dates. And those people must have been the ones doing the wave. Here's all I have to say about that: dont'. Just don't. The wave is stupid.

Of which nine remain. It's unlikely, but the Cubs still could have a winning home season by winning eight of the nine. (I did say it was unlikely.) At least baseball is still here. As bad a season as this has been, we'll miss it when it's gone.

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That wind knocked down a long ball from Castro, too

It looked ticketed, but dropped into the LF’s mitt at the warning track.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Sep 4, 2011 5:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Not to mention Barney's bobble and drop (which inexplicably was scored as a hit)

And Byrd’s missed stab. It played with Campana, too, but he made the catch on what was surely the only defensive highlight in this game. If I was Morton, I would be expecting a steak dinner from Lee and two from Cedeno.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Sep 4, 2011 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Surrprised we split season series with the Pirates.

This is at least a start to getting back to respectability. We have to dominate our division and this young Pirate team is going to hang around for the next few years. Maybe things will turn around next year.

We'll miss you Big Boy. #10 for Hall of Fame.

by mrcubsfan on Sep 4, 2011 6:03 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Randy Wells have a strong finish ...

is really huge. The Cubs already have a tall order ahead of them as far as improving the rotation. It would be nice if we could count on Wells for the No. 5 (maybe No. 4?) spot.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 4, 2011 6:07 PM CDT reply actions  

*having

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 4, 2011 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 4, 2011 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he can learn to be a little more consistent with spotting his fastball, it'll go a long way...

…in helping him setup his changeup. His change when he’s on is as good as anybody’s.

Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory­, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicate­d. - George Costanza

by troutfishin on Sep 4, 2011 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I was very excited to see what Wells and Cashner could do at the back end of the rotation this year. Injuries did them in, but hopefully 2012 can be what 2011 was supposed to be for those two. If we could find a TOR arm to go along with Garza in the offseason, we may actually be able to put together a decent rotation.

by Dcr18 on Sep 4, 2011 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correct me if I'm wrong...

But an extra 30 seconds every half inning adds 9 minutes, not 18.

Harry Caray: Marshall is going back to LA to get cocaine for his injured foot.
Steve Stone: Harry, that’s Novocaine.

by Julio Zuleta's Voodoo on Sep 4, 2011 6:09 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Yes.

You’re right. Still, nine minutes is nine minutes. It only feels like 18.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 4, 2011 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wont disagree with that.

Harry Caray: Marshall is going back to LA to get cocaine for his injured foot.
Steve Stone: Harry, that’s Novocaine.

by Julio Zuleta's Voodoo on Sep 4, 2011 6:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Pujols? Fielder? phhhhttt!!!!

Let’s get rid of LaHair-Less so we can welcome the future….Mr. LaHair.

Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory­, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicate­d. - George Costanza

by troutfishin on Sep 4, 2011 6:11 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

LaHair-Less

Heh.

2-for-4 does not a career make. But, it was a nice game from him.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 4, 2011 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't try and soften the cheese man!

LaHair is the future. :)

Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory­, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicate­d. - George Costanza

by troutfishin on Sep 4, 2011 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I must be wrong

but I thought that reaching on an error was basically 0-for-0 not 0-for-1.
I guess the thought is that that he should have been out so even though he’s on base it’s scored as an out made as far as batting stats, etc?

by NorCalCubsFan on Sep 4, 2011 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

rec’d for LaHair-Less

by Dcr18 on Sep 4, 2011 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

...

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Sep 4, 2011 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

your comment about the wave...

I agree that the wave is stupid, but I saw a “no wave” sign on the TV broadcast. Is this some sort of movement to stamp out the wave completely?

if so, I’m in

by NorCalCubsFan on Sep 4, 2011 6:19 PM CDT reply actions  

That sign belongs to some friends of mine.

It would be worth it for every single Cubs fan to heed it.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 4, 2011 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Had a drunk college kid try to start it in the section I was sitting (305) in the bleachers...

3 different times. All epic fails. Then he said “You’re all pathetic” and stormed up the stairs.

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Sep 5, 2011 7:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

The only good thing was the crowd seemed to have more life than most of the season.

The crowd has been nearly non-existent this season, it stems from poor play, but it does make the games more fun when the crowd is into it. The wave I could do without though.

by jpeters407 on Sep 5, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great Movie...Thomas Jane as Mantle was perfect.

Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory­, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicate­d. - George Costanza

by troutfishin on Sep 4, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

With Braves win tragic number is now 1

for wild card – Brewers clinched division (from the Cubs at least) with win yesterday – the only race I’m interested in now is the attendance – 3 million is still in reach – today’s crowd brought average per game number needed to around 34,600, right?

by doofus cubs guy on Sep 4, 2011 6:25 PM CDT reply actions  

It's weird this year, no real playoff races

the closest we have I think is the AL Central and the D-backs and Giants. I’m ready for football.

Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory­, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicate­d. - George Costanza

by troutfishin on Sep 4, 2011 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

D'backs/Giants race is probably over after today's Arizona win.

I’m ready for some good playoff baseball.

Closest race is AL West, 3.5 games separating Rangers & Angels.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 4, 2011 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pennant races.

You never know with 3 and a half weeks remaining. Anything can happen.

Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!" Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!" Len Kasper: "Oh Baby!!!!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Sep 4, 2011 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well...

… sure, but you are getting into the territory where if the leading team plays .500 ball, the trailing team would have to go something like 21-1 to pass them.

It’s possible, but it would take a monumental collapse for most of the leading teams to fail now.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 4, 2011 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Monumental collapses.

Sigh. Sadly, it’s a phrase we’re all too familiar with around here.

Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!" Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!" Len Kasper: "Oh Baby!!!!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Sep 4, 2011 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never underestimate...

A team sliding into mediocrity.

Looking at the standings…
Yeah, AL East & AL Wildcard are going to be Red Sox/Yankees or vice versa
and NL East & NL Wildcard are going to be Phillies & Braves, no contest
Brewers have pulled away from the pack in the Central here (nice to see, hope they run far and pass the Phillie buzzsaw)
Tigers still within slumping distance for the Indians to catch up
Rangers & Angels are fairly close
Giants have fallen away from the Dbacks

It does look locked up mostly. AL Central & West are still open, NL West isn’t quite a closed book yet.

by ddoubleheader on Sep 4, 2011 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well besides the Rangers & Angels (forgot about that one) and the Rangers should...

..lock it up with that offense there isn’t much to get excited about for almost a month. Until then the good ol NFL is right around the corner.

Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory­, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicate­d. - George Costanza

by troutfishin on Sep 4, 2011 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yankees/Red Sox is the closest race at 1.5 games, but the Red Sox are 8 up for the wildcard.

by CHS on Sep 4, 2011 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Sox getting dry-humped

16-0 in 6th… yeeeeOUCH

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by jeffstorm2 on Sep 4, 2011 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

It gets worse?!

Sox are DUNN!!! 18-0 in 8th…can’t watch any moar… Oozzie’d best call the movers!!! Team has quit on him!

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by jeffstorm2 on Sep 4, 2011 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, something like that.

The night games vs. the Reds will probably bump that number up significantly.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 4, 2011 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Surely TJ11 you jest?

Why do you bet the crowd so?

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by jeffstorm2 on Sep 4, 2011 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oops "Bait" not bet

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by jeffstorm2 on Sep 4, 2011 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha! I do not believe you!

(But your ‘realistic approach’ was discussed elsewhere today) :]

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by jeffstorm2 on Sep 4, 2011 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Earlier thread today.

Grinch was stating that “I was realistic v negative”. Naturally he or I brought up your name. He stated “you were (both) right all along”… Maybe was preview??? NOSEY…aintcha? :]

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by jeffstorm2 on Sep 4, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Would you like me to go back and search for it?

A lot is my postings so I could likely find it pretty easily… It’s in top 25% of page…Grinch and I going back-n-forth…(I think that it seems like you n I got a bromance goin’… ) :]

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by jeffstorm2 on Sep 4, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes I was nosey.....lol

I think you were both dead on……

I liked your use of the word admissions in one of the posts, I think that is VERY true!

by TJ11 on Sep 4, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks Mister! G'nite TJ11

seeya tomoro…

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by jeffstorm2 on Sep 4, 2011 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't know why you think we'll miss this

Another typical game where the Cubs win in spite of themselves. Don’t blame Quade for staying far away from Marmol. I’m sick of him, too.

Thank goodness football season has started.

by illini14 on Sep 4, 2011 7:10 PM CDT reply actions  

We'll miss it because it's baseball.

But we won’t miss the 2011 Chicago Cubs.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 4, 2011 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

And, you know ...

I think we’ll see some big changes. I’ve been thinking that there’s just no way Pena AND Ramirez will be back. One, but not both. Zambrano will be gone, too, and I bet some other holdover from the Lou era — Marmol? Soriano? Soto? — will be dealt. And Quade’s a goner.

I keep hoping that Billy Beane gets hired, the Cubs swap Soriano for Dunn, trade Zambrano for some salary relief to Ozzie Guillen’s Miami Marlins, re-sign Ramirez to a 3-year, $33 million deal, sign CJ Wilson and maybe add another pitcher through trade. If Dunn rebounds, that could be an interesting team, especially if Brett Jackson can provide some spark by midseason, at the latest.

That’s my wishlist, anyway.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Sep 4, 2011 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think I want Dunn and his defense in left or first.

My wishlist is to sign Pujols to a 6 year deal at 160 million, or Fielder to a 125 million for 6 years. Trade Soriano and pay majority of his contract. Sign Wilson, and trade Wells, Soto, and Marmol if possible.

'Never look down on anybody unless you're helping him up.'

by Unique on Sep 4, 2011 8:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't want Dunn either.

I think he’s done.

Zambrano for Peavy, anyone?

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by Al Yellon on Sep 4, 2011 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure.

But the White Sox won’t do it.

'Never look down on anybody unless you're helping him up.'

by Unique on Sep 4, 2011 9:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

They might if Ozzie sticks around.

But I don’t see Ozzie managing the White Sox next year. I think he’ll be in Miami as Marlins manager.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 4, 2011 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lookin like Oozzie's moving south...

Cripes! Can you imagine the pain of losing to Oozzie in an NL Playoff?!

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by jeffstorm2 on Sep 4, 2011 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Venezuelan solidarity

I thought Ozzie’s support of Zambrano was always a national/ethnic thing, them both being Venezuelan and not because he really believed in his skills as a player. I figured whenever he said he’d like to have Zambrano after the latest blowup was kind of a way of telling Z he’s still wanted as a player.

by ddoubleheader on Sep 4, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

yuppers... more or less

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by jeffstorm2 on Sep 4, 2011 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe Oozzie n Big Z will go sailing together...

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by jeffstorm2 on Sep 4, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I always wanted to see...

Zambrano in a bullfighting ring. The way he raged and charged around the field, set his sights on the gatorade machine, he acted like a bull. It would be interesting to see Big Z 1-on-1 with a beast of similar temperament to him.

And Ozzie at a zoo with giraffes. There was a joke about that on Mad Tv a while back.

by ddoubleheader on Sep 4, 2011 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!

Never considered that…

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by jeffstorm2 on Sep 4, 2011 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Ozzie stays, maybe, but ..

Peavy is owed $17M for 2012 and then there is a buyout of $4M for 2013. If the team wants to keep him, it’s $22M in 2013.

If the White Sox are convinced that Peavy is a diminished player, then maybe. My gut feel is that Z will pitch more innings and have more wins than Peavy will next year.

by jerry morales rules on Sep 5, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Peavy & Dunn, sounds like some commercial for lawyers...

Dunn is just a really sad case. Every hitter’s worst nightmare, only during the waking day every day. One just cringes watching him struggle through every at bat, only to strike out 90-some % of the time. When was the last time something like that happened to a player? Ryan Dempster’s pitcher’s nightmare in Arizona earlier this season only lasted what, 30-45 min?

Peavy seems like Kerry Wood and what’s his name. He can be a great pitcher, but he just has lingering arm/shoulder issues that may end his career. Every game he pitches is like a game of jenga. You never know when some part of the pitching motion set of muscles is going to give out.

by ddoubleheader on Sep 4, 2011 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sox are Dunn is right

With tonight’s 18-2 blowout loss, they do seem like they’re done for the season. Blowout may be the wrong word. Annihilated, obliterated, pulverized into a fine powder seems more appropriate.

by ddoubleheader on Sep 4, 2011 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone going to wax nostalgic for...

The Quade era of the Cubs? (yeah, I’m being a bit sarcastic)

by ddoubleheader on Sep 4, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha!

Not a chance. I think we’ll wax nostolgic over end of 2010 season, but take it for what it was. A team, without pressure of any kind just…well…playin for the fun of it.

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by jeffstorm2 on Sep 4, 2011 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tweedledum and Tweedledummy

Quade = Bruce Kimm = Jim Essian. All three Epic FAILs.

"You know what they do in Philadelphia when the game is rained out? They go to the airport and boo the bad landings." — Bob Uecker.

"Sometimes they boo loud enough to wake up the air traffic controllers." — Me.

by The Underground Conservative on Sep 5, 2011 2:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bevington

Isn’t he the idiot who went to the mound to make a pitching change without having a pitcher warming up?

"You know what they do in Philadelphia when the game is rained out? They go to the airport and boo the bad landings." — Bob Uecker.

"Sometimes they boo loud enough to wake up the air traffic controllers." — Me.

by The Underground Conservative on Sep 9, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see why LaHair "has no chance of ever contributing to the team."

And should the Cubs resign Wells or not? What is an acceptable price? I really have no clue what to think of him anymore.

feet firmly nailed to the floor of the Tyler Colvin bandwagon...

by wrigleyrocker12 on Sep 4, 2011 10:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, IMHO

he’s kinda like Marmol (Or ‘Marms’ as The Quade calls him). He’s had a decent-good year or two… look at Marmols contract. And, slightly different, Demp. A good year as an SP landed what…50mil? Hopefully, time will tell…not ‘desperation’.

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by jeffstorm2 on Sep 4, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

This from Cotts BB Contracts

Randy Wells rhp
1 year/$0.475M (2011)

1 year/$0.475M (2011)
re-signed by Chicago Cubs 3/11
1 year/$0.427M (2010)
re-signed by Chicago Cubs 2/10
1 year/$0.402M (2009)
re-signed by Cubs 2/25/09
1 year (2008)
selected by Toronto from Cubs in Rule 5 draft 12/6/07
DFA, returned to Cubs from Toronto 4/16/08

contract purchased by Cubs 9/9/08
drafted 2002 (38-1,143)
ML service: 2.016

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by jeffstorm2 on Sep 4, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

And this...

from Cot’s future obligations page.

Randy Wells
2012: Arbitration 1
2013: Arbitration 2
2014: Arbitration 3
2015: FA

So while Wells is not actually “under contract” for next year… the Cubs control his rights under the collective bargaining agreement for three more seasons.

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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST

by fsuapollo on Sep 4, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank You fsuapollo

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by jeffstorm2 on Sep 4, 2011 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

The deal is...

… that until a player hits free agency (six years in), he’s considered “under team control”. After two-plus years (depends on length of service, which is why you hear about “Super Two” players), he is eligible for arbitration, as shown above. 2012 is the first arb year for Wells.

The only way Wells is NOT with the Cubs next year is if he is traded or “non-tendered”, the latter meaning simply that he is not offered a contract. If that happens, he would be made a free agent.

Hope that helps explain it.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 5, 2011 6:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

The next baseball game I watch from start to finish

will be the next Cubs’ meaningful game after Sept. 1.

I’m just too busy to devote four hours of my life to watching them. I get score alerts to my phone and can catch highlights on five different TV channels — ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNNews, MLB and Comcast — and through several Web sites. I can read recaps.

Baseball has rejected every meaningful attempt to make the games shorter and/or faster. The union fights any attempt to make players hurry up. The traditionalists, in between screaming at their in-home nurses for more pudding and Wapner, fight any real change in structure.

Baseball doesn’t want to change, so I changed.

"It's all in the game, yo"

by Worf on Sep 4, 2011 10:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Count me and my family as part of the walk up crowd...

Decided last night to go to today’s game, were surprised bleacher seats still available at the box office and had a great time in the left-center bleachers, row 3.

Beautiful weather. Nice win.

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by carmen_fanzone on Sep 4, 2011 10:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Glad you enjoyed it!

FANTASTIC WEATHER!!!

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by jeffstorm2 on Sep 4, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry you didn't stop by to say hi.

Glad you enjoyed it.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 5, 2011 6:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Promise to next time, Al.

Everything was hectic and last minute with my family , so I was kind of glad to just find a seat and relax for the ballgame. lol.

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by carmen_fanzone on Sep 5, 2011 7:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

No problem.

Like I said, glad you had a good time and got to see a win, even if it took eleventy hundred hours.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 5, 2011 7:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

What touched off...

… the history lesson about Grover Cleveland by Len & Bob? I must’ve been out of the room when they segued into it, only heard the back part. I also heard them playing the classic late 1800s old timey music too. Was it Grover Cleveland Alexander or something else?

And yes Len (and any readers wondering), it was William Howard Taft who got stuck in the bathtub. Cleveland was the 2nd heaviest president (cue jokes about the 2nd term being because there wasn’t enough room to fit him into 1 term).

by ddoubleheader on Sep 4, 2011 11:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Aramis' stolen base was pretty awesome

For all the flak he gets around here for not hustling, he stole a base and then hustled home on a single from second. Nicely done.

by markrvdl on Sep 5, 2011 1:39 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Forgot to mention that.

It was his first SB since 2009.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 5, 2011 6:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

nice

when you have 3 pitchers who can close.did’nt do us much good since we’re going home but not many teams can make that claim.i give quade credit for not going with the i have to use my closer mentality.we did’nt need marmol blowing another win.he just is not very good this season.and the cubs seriously need to find ways to score runs in case ramirez does’nt return.and there’s a very good chance he does’nt.

by NOMAR on Sep 5, 2011 5:52 AM CDT reply actions  

saw

the comments on dunn. i dont think he’s done.if we could trade soriano or z for him i would do it. he just could’nt adjust to being a dh.plain and simple.come back to the n.l.

by NOMAR on Sep 5, 2011 5:58 AM CDT reply actions  

was

there really 40 thousand yesterday for the bucs?shows you how much we love the cubs.and the heartbreaking aspect?everbody on their feet in the 9th cheering like we were getting ready to clinch the pennant. great great fans.c’mon ricketts we deserve a winner.

by NOMAR on Sep 5, 2011 6:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Speaking of kicking Ozzie's butt,

what, we weren’t? Nice 18-2 smack down from my AL team, the Tigers!

At least I’ll have one team to root for in the playoffs.

There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion?

by Zeke on Sep 5, 2011 6:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Whoever draws the Tigers in the first round might have trouble.

Since they’ll have to (potentially) face Verlander twice.

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by Al Yellon on Sep 5, 2011 7:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

LaHair > LeBald

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Sep 5, 2011 10:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Not...

… when the Cubs are having a bad LaHair day.

by ddoubleheader on Sep 5, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's when they should cut LaHair.

Cracker Jack does not have an "s", even in the plural.

by katie casey on Sep 6, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

It would just be a roster trim.

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