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I've been debating with myself whether to post this given some of the ugly comments this story tends to generate. But this is a major development and perhaps many Cubs fans outside of Chicago aren't aware of it yet.

Earlier reports indicated that Castro was questioned "all night." (The account I read in the Daily Herald used this term.) But the story seems to have changed to include the specifics indicated in the linked-to ESPN piece, which are still pretty daunting.

I believe Starlin has done the right thing by voluntarily submitting himself to what must have been an exhausting process. And, to my knowledge, he has yet to be charged with anything. I do wonder whether that will change after the CPD reviews everything he said or didn't say during the interview.

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I think we all saw this coming when Castro returned for the Cubs Convention

And there is no way that he is questioned all night with the legal team he has.

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"Pain is inevitable, suffering is an option." - Dale Sveum

by RiskyBusiness on Jan 13, 2012 12:18 PM CST reply actions  

Still, assuming it's accurate...

…seven hours from last night into this morning is a long time.

"[The Cubs] have a very famous tradition in baseball, and it will be nice to be part of turning it around." ~ Jamie Quirk, Bench Coach

by daver on Jan 13, 2012 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

It's take a long time when your lawyer keeps saying "Don't answer that."

Over and over and over again.

"Just shut up and play" - Matt Garza
"Pain is inevitable, suffering is an option." - Dale Sveum

by RiskyBusiness on Jan 13, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

and your client keeps saying

i dont speak English ala Sosa

Q: Why did Theo Epstein cross the road?
A: To Dump Garza

by Cubbie-Tim on Jan 13, 2012 6:21 PM CST up reply actions  

And if you were being questioned in a country where it wasn’t your first language wouldn’t you have your lawyers helping you with what you say>

Nothing happens unless it's first a dream

by puckishcubsfan on Jan 14, 2012 5:34 AM CST up reply actions  

i understand why they do it, no doubt

Q: Why did Theo Epstein cross the road?
A: To Dump Garza

by Cubbie-Tim on Jan 14, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

wonder

how he feels at the convention if that were the case..

by RIP Slim on Jan 13, 2012 12:32 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah, it's going to be an awkward situation to say the least.

"[The Cubs] have a very famous tradition in baseball, and it will be nice to be part of turning it around." ~ Jamie Quirk, Bench Coach

by daver on Jan 13, 2012 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Not cool at all.

Again, I implore everyone to keep comments in this thread respectful.

Getting pretty close to closing time otherwise.

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by Al Yellon on Jan 13, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I don't know, that seems like an off-beat joke to me.

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by troutfishin on Jan 13, 2012 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Vegas has set the odds at

2:1 – that this thread closes before 4pm CST.

Damn. I missed both Castro threads.

by Tat14 on Jan 13, 2012 12:40 PM CST reply actions  

the post above yours could have this closed ASAASI - As soon as Al see it

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by Hammer on Jan 13, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Would that be collusion?

And why did you change your name? Are you in trouble? 3 am??

Damn. I missed both Castro threads.

by Tat14 on Jan 13, 2012 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Seriously?

It was to make the front page look cleaner and more professional.

by Josh Timmers on Jan 13, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Please keep the comments on this topic respectful

… or comments on this post will be closed.

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by Al Yellon on Jan 13, 2012 1:57 PM CST reply actions  

Oh just go to the ballroom and get your seat Al

The bottom is loaded with nice people, Albert. Only cream and bastards rise

by Doggie Stalker on Jan 13, 2012 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Seat?? No dancing in the ballroom?

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by RiskyBusiness on Jan 13, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

If you want the thread to stay open.......

"Stuff like this is why they should shut off the internet."

by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST

by fsuapollo on Jan 13, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Update: Starlin has released an official statement through the Cubs:
“I personally, and through my attorneys, have fully cooperated with the police in this matter. Unfortunately I cannot address the matter further at this time while the investigation is taking place. I understand that being a member of the Cubs means being a hard worker on the field and a good citizen off the field, and I always want to carry myself in a way that exceeds high expectations.”

Source.

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by daver on Jan 13, 2012 2:13 PM CST reply actions  

No that was crafted by his lawyers. I don't like it when the supposedly...

…“falsely accused” have nothing to say regarding their innocence.

Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory­, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicate­d. - George Costanza

by troutfishin on Jan 13, 2012 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Right, because no one in Illinois was ever falsely accused and still sent to prison

Naw, never happens. No need for a lawyer, just talk to the police. You’ll be fine…

"Just shut up and play" - Matt Garza
"Pain is inevitable, suffering is an option." - Dale Sveum

by RiskyBusiness on Jan 13, 2012 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm speaking for myself here.

If I was falsely accused I would shout my innocence to the rooftops, obviously everyone isn’t the same and we all handle our business differently. I’m not saying he’s guilty.

Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory­, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicate­d. - George Costanza

by troutfishin on Jan 13, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

his freedom of speech

includes not saying anything.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Jan 13, 2012 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

my guess

a PR statement that was approved by a legal team

Q: Why did Theo Epstein cross the road?
A: To Dump Garza

by Cubbie-Tim on Jan 13, 2012 6:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm assuming the kid made the right adjustments..

and hopefully this thing was just a big misunderstanding.

Not only is this kid the best hitter on this team – he was on pace to be the most marketable player on this team.

'Never look down on anybody unless you're helping him up.'

by Unique on Jan 13, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

*right judgements,

rather.

'Never look down on anybody unless you're helping him up.'

by Unique on Jan 13, 2012 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Right Judgements?

The right judgement would be not being in the position to allow yourself to be accused of such an accusation.

Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory­, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicate­d. - George Costanza

by troutfishin on Jan 13, 2012 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

here we go....

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jan 13, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry, but it's just as easy (because we have seen it time and again)

for me to believe that a piss poor judgement (that’s as nice as I can state this) was made than the opposite.

Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory­, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicate­d. - George Costanza

by troutfishin on Jan 13, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

We don't know what happened..

and the until we do, I’m not going to judge his “decisions” that night in anyway. It’s easy to say in hindsight what he should of done.

All I can say is that hopefully he won’t be put in this situation ever again, assuming this doesn’t progressively get worse.

'Never look down on anybody unless you're helping him up.'

by Unique on Jan 13, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty easy for you.......

to call it after the fact. I’m sure you’ve done things in your life (at least 1), where you’ve said afterwards…….“yeah, I shouldn’t have done that……”

by jballgame on Jan 13, 2012 6:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Big difference...

… is that “the rest of us” don’t nearly have as much to lose as a star baseball player do. Sorry, but while Castro may have done nothing wrong, its his duty to be well beyond reproach. Personally, I believe that everyone should follow that advice… but for the same reason that athletes should hire drivers when they go out drinking, etc. You need to protect yourself, and for high profile individuals, this means not doing things that normal people do on a regular basis.

by dmlichte on Jan 13, 2012 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed....

To a point, but people around here act as if he’s perfect, and not a friggin’ human being.

by jballgame on Jan 14, 2012 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes..

… but in this age of social media, everyone with smart phones, etc, athletes need to be 100X smarter than even a few years ago. Had Michael Jordan played during this era, people would see him in a much different light, as his alleged transgressions would make Tiger Woods look like a choir boy. Point being, players need to be smarter and this is why the NFL, for example, has sessions for incoming rookies about proper behavior and how to protect themselves.

Starlin Castro may have done nothing wrong from a legal standpoint (not saying he did or didn’t, just saying for the sake of this argument). He may have done things that a typical 21 year old would have done. But the typical 21 year old doesn’t have the earning potential based on his or her own image that Castro does. The typical 21 year old doesn’t have people targeting them (not saying thats what the involved female was doing). Athletes need to be smarter than the average person, and this means not going home with a female so drunk that they’re are blacking out and not going to be able to remember what happened the next morning.

by dmlichte on Jan 14, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't disagree with you.

My comments are directed at those who are over the top with their criticism of Castro. Dumb move? Sure………but let’s not act like we’re perfect. Guarantee many others have done things similar to this on the “against better judgment” scale, or perhaps worse.

And……ALLEGEDLY “so drunk that they’re blacking out and not going to be able to remember what happened the next morning.”

by jballgame on Jan 14, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

People see Michael Jordan in a different light now

He went from being a player’s player to being an owner’s owner. He was going to unleash a tirade against the players in this recent lockout until the owners got him to keep his mouth shut because the players’ representatives had prepared a speech that would use all of his quotes from the 1998 lockout against him. He was one of the hardliners.

And has anyone else seen him? He doesn’t look the same, in the eyes, in the face. His eyes lack that focused look he would have when making free throws and other tosses and his facial expressions look closer to Herman Cain than Derrick Rose. Of course, one could see that kind of behavior off the court back when he was a Bulls player, but it’s like everything about him that people liked and that was very talented just went out the window. Did he transfer it to Derrick Rose or something?

by ddoubleheader on Jan 14, 2012 11:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Jordan also has tried in the past to break the UNion

long before he was a part owner

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A: To Dump Garza

by Cubbie-Tim on Jan 15, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

What a dumb thing to say.

He’s 21 years old and lives in Chicago… you expect him to never go to a bar?

by kanderber on Jan 13, 2012 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

You think he just went to a bar? lol

Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory­, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicate­d. - George Costanza

by troutfishin on Jan 13, 2012 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not implying anything

I’m just saying that what he’s being accused of didn’t occur inside of a bar.

Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory­, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicate­d. - George Costanza

by troutfishin on Jan 13, 2012 9:49 PM CST up reply actions  

It occurred after two adults left a bar together.

I’m not making any judgement on what happened – but to claim that it didn’t occur BECAUSE he went to that bar is ignoring the cause.

by bdlugz on Jan 13, 2012 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

My initial response was to kandaber

my point was that this was not as simple as him going to a bar, and that what he is being accused of did not occur inside a bar.

Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory­, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicate­d. - George Costanza

by troutfishin on Jan 13, 2012 11:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Understood... it's much more than that.

But the issues all derive from that location. If you’d have articulated a better response, I’d have no issue, but it came across as if you were implying more than the fact that the issue at hand didn’t occur at the bar itself… we all knew that.

by bdlugz on Jan 13, 2012 11:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Ok, so...

I’ll rephrase.

You really expect a very successful single 21 year old guy to not pick up girls at a bar?

by kanderber on Jan 14, 2012 6:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Castro

Apparently he’ll be at the convention but will be held from the media session before the opening ceremony… sorry if someone posted this already. Personally, I think it might be best for him actually to speak to the media. I know that, at this point, he can’t answer a lot of questions for legal reasons. I do feel, however, that hiding him from the media is just going to make things more difficult when he actually has to speak for the first time, likely in the spring. I realize this weekend is about feel good Cubbiness… but it might benefit him in the long run to not look like he’s hiding.

by dmlichte on Jan 13, 2012 3:43 PM CST reply actions  

There is the Court of Law and the Court of Public Opinion

At this point, the Court of Law is much more important. Anything he says in public can be used against him in court.

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by RiskyBusiness on Jan 13, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

That's is true...but there is nothing wrong with claiming your innocence in the court of

public opinion and that can be done without disparaging the accuser.

Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory­, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicate­d. - George Costanza

by troutfishin on Jan 13, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Very little upside to it

More downside. Once you’re standing in front of reporters, they’ll expect you to answer questions. And there is your potential problem.

Let the police and prosecutors make the next step.

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"Pain is inevitable, suffering is an option." - Dale Sveum

by RiskyBusiness on Jan 13, 2012 4:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I disagree

Castro can easily say “I cant respond to questions about the case right now… I wish I could but for legal reasons I can’t.” Reporters get that… they’re not stupid. All sorts of people currently being investigated speak to reporters while refusing to discuss an open case.

by dmlichte on Jan 13, 2012 6:05 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed

no reason he cant start the session with the media by saying “i cannot and will not discuss anything in regards to my interview with CPD and the alleged situation leading to it”

Q: Why did Theo Epstein cross the road?
A: To Dump Garza

by Cubbie-Tim on Jan 13, 2012 6:28 PM CST up reply actions  

That verbal statement is no different than the official statement

There’s no benefit there.

I watched the NBC 5 news at 6pm tonight and this was one of their top stories. Phil Rogers (NBC 5) did the report from the Cubs Convention and he read the entire statement on the air. That was much more effective than a one line sentence from Castro.

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by RiskyBusiness on Jan 13, 2012 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

you're missing my point

Castro is going to have to start talking to the media. The more he is hidden from the reporters, the bigger of a deal its going to be when he is finally able to talk to them. The point isn’t him addressing this situation, its him being present and available to talk to the media. The story now becomes “Castro finally talks to the media, after months of an embargo”. So now, when Castro is allowed to talk to the media, the story is both the accusation of sexual assault as well as Castro finally being allowed to talk to the media.

by dmlichte on Jan 13, 2012 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

OK, here are Castro's choices

1. Take your media relations advice.

2. Take the advice of the legal team he has, including Ed Genson’s law firm.

Hmmm. What to do?

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by RiskyBusiness on Jan 13, 2012 10:18 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Not being at the convention would have raised more eyebrows

Castro was held out of the media session before the introductions. I don’t know if he is scheduled for any Q&A sessions.

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by RiskyBusiness on Jan 13, 2012 11:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Anything he says is admissible

And can be used to attack his credibility if anything slightly contradicts anything he says during officials proceedings. It’s better to say nothing at all knowing how words can be twisted.

by Arbusto on Jan 13, 2012 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

simple

“I can’t answer any questions related to that”.

The media is interviewing pretty much everyone, so there are plenty of questions that they can ask Starlin that has nothing to do with sexual assault.

by dmlichte on Jan 13, 2012 10:04 PM CST up reply actions  

"I can’t answer any questions related to that"

Haven’t he and his lawyers and the Cubs both made statements to that effect several times? I don’t understand why you want Castro to start every interview with the media by regurgitating that statement over and over again, it just isn’t necessary.

The media are not idiots, this isn’t there 1st go around with a star athlete who has done something that may or may not be criminal. And I’ve heard at least a few local media state that those with knowledge of the situation believe that it is highly unlikely that Castro will be charged with anything regarding this matter. If the authorities had any decent evidence, he’d already have been arrested by now, IMHO……

by magicblue on Jan 14, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

a nitpick

but don’t you mean severity of the potential charges? I believe no charges have been filed.

by NorCalCubsFan on Jan 13, 2012 5:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, my mistake.

Apologies. Dan’s all about the de-rec button, while I long for an edit feature.

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by shoemile on Jan 13, 2012 5:29 PM CST up reply actions  

screw the de-rec button - we need a DeRo button!

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by ballhawk on Jan 13, 2012 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

That makes me wonder

How well does he speak English? Does he speak it well enough to pick up a woman at a bar? Did the woman speak Spanish or her friend?

by Mitchener on Jan 14, 2012 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

We don't know

… and probably never will.

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by Al Yellon on Jan 15, 2012 8:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Pssssh.

Who HASN’T been interviewed by the CPD?

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by dtpollitt on Jan 13, 2012 3:48 PM CST reply actions  

LOL.

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by Unique on Jan 13, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

So now that

this step has happened, the ball is in the police’s court, to mix sports & sports analogies. On what timescale can we expect, if the police think there’s enough evidence, to charge/arrest Castro? A week? This would give us a window on when it is likely they would take action/there’s something there vs. when it is unlikely they would act/there’s nothing there or nothing actionable there.

by ddoubleheader on Jan 13, 2012 3:50 PM CST reply actions  

In a probably related story...

…the Cubs have changed the cover photo on the pocket schedules as shown:

Old and new #Cubs pocket skeds on Twitpic

Source.

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by daver on Jan 13, 2012 3:53 PM CST reply actions  

maybe that's just a special edition for the convention

Come visit me inside Wrigley along the Addison side mezzanine fence straight up from 1st base.

by section229beer on Jan 13, 2012 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, that could just be a coincidence.

He is still pictured on the ad for spring training tickets.

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by katie casey on Jan 13, 2012 5:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Apparently at the Cubs Convention

A life size cardboard cut-out of Castro was the first thing you saw as you walked in tonight. And no, there were not jail bards in front of him.

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by RiskyBusiness on Jan 13, 2012 7:11 PM CST up reply actions  

uh oh... that is not good

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by cooliogirl47 on Jan 13, 2012 5:54 PM CST up reply actions  

It doesn't mean anything except...

…that the Cubs, for the time being at least, are uncomfortable enough with him being the public face of the franchise that they changed the design of schedules that had already gone to the printer.

by bluekoolaide on Jan 13, 2012 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Once again, it may just be a convention special schedule.

They also had a huge cut out of Castro as the first thing you saw when you walked in. You can hardly claim that they aren’t comfortable with him as the face of the franchise right now.

by bdlugz on Jan 13, 2012 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Or Not

Because A life size cardboard cut-out of Castro was the first thing you saw as you walked in tonight. And no, there were not jail bards in front of him.

They could easily have pulled that down. But they didn’t.

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by RiskyBusiness on Jan 13, 2012 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

So this would mean that Bruce Miles completely screwed up...

…and tweeted something that wasn’t true. Is he known to make huge screw-ups like that?

Btw-I never remember the Cubs manufacturing special schedules for the convention only-what would be the point of that?

Also-there’s a big difference between a placard on view to a few thousand people and a schedule that’s going to be distributed to many times that number.

by bluekoolaide on Jan 13, 2012 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

He's a reporter looking for a story

But the Cubs are always looking to try something new. Special 2012 schedules for the convention is easy to do.

And that life size cardboard was on the top story of every local news broadcast tonight.

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by RiskyBusiness on Jan 13, 2012 11:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Then it's more accurate to say that he's a reporter...

…MANUFACTURING a story. This would be either pure fabrication or extremely shoddy reporting (I mean, let’s face it-how hard can it be for a professional reporter to simply find out whether or not these schedules were manufactured only for the convention).

I’m sorry but if it turns out that these schedules were merely manufactured for the convention, then Miles should be raked over the coals.

by bluekoolaide on Jan 14, 2012 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

or maybe fans are reading too much into a TwitPic

Show me where Miles even claims that the Cubs had some Castro related motive for these schedules. His Tweet only says “Old and new #Cubs pocket skeds”. That’s it.

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by RiskyBusiness on Jan 14, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Okay, so you're going to sit there and tell me with a straight face...

…that Miles didn’t mean to imply that Castro’s troubles had anything to do with the change in the pic on the schedules?!!

Btw-please re-read the tweet-it CLEARLY adds that “Castro was on the original one”.

Wow-can’t beieve anyone would have read something into THAT-LOL.

by bluekoolaide on Jan 14, 2012 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry - I missed that 2nd line

I just find it really inconsistent with the life size poster that Cubs fans were taking pictures with.

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by RiskyBusiness on Jan 14, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

As far as the schedules are concerned

… the Cubs have, in recent years, issued a special pocket schedule with some convention-related art on the front.

Then they have a different one issued before the season (the convention one doesn’t have the TV schedule on it).

I wouldn’t read anything into it at all.

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by Al Yellon on Jan 15, 2012 8:09 AM CST up reply actions  

I still don't know what to think about any of this

I keep hoping it’s a bad dream that goes away, but that isn’t exactly possible. So the next best thing to hope for is that no one was assaulted and the accuser and Starlin are cleared, but that is nearly as improbable. Just an awful situation, no matter what happened, and no matter what the outcome is.

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by Craig in South Bend on Jan 13, 2012 4:22 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

I hope this thing ends b4 the season starts

… cassie doesnt need any distractions and w/out Pena saving his throws i fear he may lead the NL in errors

by chit0wn on Jan 13, 2012 7:24 PM CST reply actions  

Pretty tame so far.

I’m so proud of you all!

Of course, there are a few missing headcases, so we’ll see…

Hey! I caught the 3rd Castro thread!!

by Tat14 on Jan 13, 2012 8:17 PM CST reply actions  

The sad part about this is that...

…no matter what the outcome, this is going to cast a long shadow over the start of a very promising career.

At the very least though, the Cubs should treat this as a cautionary tale and do everything they can to educate young players on the "do’s and don’ts ". For starters, nothing good happens to professional athletes in bars at 3 am.

by bluekoolaide on Jan 13, 2012 9:25 PM CST reply actions  

Lead story on Fox Channel 12 News

I watched the Fox 9pm newscast and this of course was the lead story. Craig Wall reported and at the end of his report he said that a source told him that he did not expect charges to be filed.

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by RiskyBusiness on Jan 13, 2012 10:06 PM CST reply actions  

I would like to know why that is.

probably because it will be settled monetarily.

Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory­, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicate­d. - George Costanza

by troutfishin on Jan 13, 2012 11:23 PM CST up reply actions  

But at the end of the day...

If there was a strong case against Castro he’d have been arrested. That doesn’t mean he won’t settle, but I assure you the CPD doesn’t care what will happen in the future, they only worry about the facts at that point and time.

by bdlugz on Jan 13, 2012 11:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Arrests for professional athletes or famous people do not happen in the same manner..

…as the general public. With the ability to post bail and the class of attorneys that they generally work with, the arrest and arraignment process for those people is a lot more judicious and deliberate.

Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory­, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicate­d. - George Costanza

by troutfishin on Jan 13, 2012 11:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed on their different treatment

I’m just saying what I heard reported. And like any source, his source could be wrong.

Maybe we’ll get a better feel when more non-sports reporters get info from their police sources.

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by RiskyBusiness on Jan 13, 2012 11:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Depending on the situation they can be more likely to be charged. An ambitious prosecutor could make his name on a case like this.

Read Mike Nifong.

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by puckishcubsfan on Jan 14, 2012 5:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Nifong and the Duke Lacrosse players a completely different set of...

….circumstances. The Lacrosse players (some of them) came from a privileged background but none of them were famous, just in this case infamous.

Nifong aggressively prosecuted that case by trying to use the racial undertones generated by the accusations. Remember the outcry by so called black leaders, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, you would have thought they never heard of the presumption of innocence.

Nifong tried to advantage of that, he thought he could win re-election by currying favor with the large black population in the area by ruining the lives of a few college students.

Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory­, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicate­d. - George Costanza

by troutfishin on Jan 14, 2012 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Not only would he have been arrested he would have had been pressured to come back to the states beore now.

What most likely happened was they contacted his lawyer and were told he’d be here in January and said “Okay we’ll interview him then”.

What bothers me is calling the journalism in this NAtional Enquirer like is an INSULT TO THE ENQUIRER.

They keep emphasizing he left town the next day. Excuse me it was 2 days after end of season when he was scheduled to go home anyway. AND THE REPORTERS KNEW THIS.

And they keep harping on the fact he stayed in the DR since. Why would he necessarily come back to Chicago during this time?

Nothing happens unless it's first a dream

by puckishcubsfan on Jan 14, 2012 5:32 AM CST up reply actions  

I thought i heard that Castro came back to the states in November

Supposedly he and his agent wanted to talk to Theo. Someone might need to double check that. But if he was here then i wonder why they didn’t question him then.

by Mitchener on Jan 14, 2012 10:54 PM CST up reply actions  

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