Tony La Russa to manage NL All-Stars
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So....
he will sit at home all season and then come out and manage one game?? THIS TIME IT COUNTS. What a joke
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
Why the hell not?
Cubs TheRiot jerseys still sell like hotcakes. Amazing marketing opportunity right there.
A manager who has no investment in who wins?
YAY
For some fans, Kerry Wood is that dollap of pumpkin paste.
by Nunyabidness on Jan 24, 2012 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
u really think he wont wanna win?
… it will be his last hoorah..I think he’ll do wut ever it takes to win.
His last hurrah was winning the world series.
I mean I’m sure he’ll “want” to win, but there is a level of effort that is different when you have something at stake.
For some fans, Kerry Wood is that dollap of pumpkin paste.
by Nunyabidness on Jan 24, 2012 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
and...
Its an exhibition game. I don’t personally like him, but he took his team to the World Series. He should manage the NL team.
how can it still be called an exhibition??
Essentially now its a 1 game playoff to see which league gets home field. Further evidence that Bud is a moron.
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"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
This shouldn't be allowed.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
He's retired.
There is one precedent: Danny Murtaugh retired after managing the 1971 Pirates to the WS title, and managed the 1972 NL All-Stars.
Murtaugh also came back and managed the Pirates again from 1973 until his death after the 1976 season.
But that’s it.
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The ASG also determined nothing more than who won an exhibition game back then.
For some fans, Kerry Wood is that dollap of pumpkin paste.
by Nunyabidness on Jan 24, 2012 5:01 PM CST up reply actions
I still see no problem with it
… he won the world series and he deserves it. I never really liked him but i respect him. The man knows baseball better than any other manager out there. NL fans should be stoked
If he wanted to manage the all-star game there was a real easy way to make sure he did.
Continue managing. This is an ego stroke. Nothing more.
For some fans, Kerry Wood is that dollap of pumpkin paste.
by Nunyabidness on Jan 24, 2012 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
disagree
… the man won the world series for the 3rd time, had an amazing career and he deserves one last day in the sun. again i never liked him, always thought he was a prick, but u gotta respect him. He knows wut the hell he is doinfg
Again, if he wanted another day in the sun he could have managed another year.
He’ll also have his day in the sun when he’s inducted into the Hall of Fame.
Major league baseball needs to decide whether the ASG “Means something” or whether its an exhibition in which former managers can stage a farewell tour. It shouldn’t be both.
What happens if LaRussa makes a move that can be pointed to as the reason his team lost? You don’t think the NL players should be a little miffed that LaRussa can shrug his shoulders and go home, while they are now at a disadvantage in the World Series? I know I would be
For some fans, Kerry Wood is that dollap of pumpkin paste.
by Nunyabidness on Jan 24, 2012 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
LaRussa is not that type of guy
who would ever announce he was retiring at the end of the year, he wouldn’t want no farewell tour, that’s not how he’s made up.
wut.
he wouldn’t want no farewell tour, that’s not how he’s made up.
Unless it’s managing the all-star game?
For some fans, Kerry Wood is that dollap of pumpkin paste.
by Nunyabidness on Jan 24, 2012 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
it's his right to manage the game
All Star Rules, the manager of the World Series will be manage the All Star Game the following year.
What is so hard for you to comprehend?
I comprehend it just fine.
I also understand it’s an arbitrary rule that could very easily be changed considering the World Series winner is retired.
What part of “retired” aren’t you comprehending?
For some fans, Kerry Wood is that dollap of pumpkin paste.
by Nunyabidness on Jan 24, 2012 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
How
Is Tony LaRussa going to do a worse job of this than Mike Matheny? You honestly think that in July of 2012, Mike Matheny is magically going to be a better manager than LaRussa?
If “This time it counts” means the game should be taken seriously, then LaRussa is a much better choice than a guy who has never managed a game in his life as I write this.
by Josh Timmers on Jan 24, 2012 8:05 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
He has every right to manage the game
Retired or not, he is not a player, he is a manager, you make it seem like he is a player. Totally different. This is what MLB does.
—John Mcgraw retired after the 1932 season and managed the National League in the first All-Star game the following year.
Danny Murtaugh managed the NL All-Star team in 1972 after stepping down following Pittsburgh’s 1971 World Series title.—
Not quite right about John McGraw
… McGraw retired DURING the 1932 season for health reasons.
The 1933 All-Star Game was the first one. Connie Mack managed the AL team — his A’s did not win the AL in 1932.
The point is, this “rule” can be arbitrarily changed at any time by MLB. It’s not an immutable law of the universe.
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From your description, you would think LaRussa had just managed Little League
You may not get this, but LaRussa is a professional and will seriously prepare for the All-Star game. And he does not shrug his shoulders at losing.
"Just shut up and play" - Matt Garza
"Pain is inevitable, suffering is an option." - Dale Sveum
by RiskyBusiness on Jan 24, 2012 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
I am not overly angry at it but
it is in my opinion. I think it should be Ron Roenicke of the Brewers. Unfortunately the ASG means something these days. And Tony’s Integrity is in check since the Steroid era.
who should manage the team then?
A hack like Ron Roneicke who got destroyed in the dugout by LaRussa in the NLCS? If you want the NL to win, I could care less, then LaRussa is far and away the best man for the job.
By the way, there is precedent, John McGraw managed the first World Series after he had just retired.
I don't think you understand what the word precedent means.
For some fans, Kerry Wood is that dollap of pumpkin paste.
by Nunyabidness on Jan 24, 2012 7:49 PM CST up reply actions
Not quite
John McGraw managed in the first ASG despite having retired the year before.
So there is precedent.
And what’s the alternative? Having Mike Matheny manage the team? Who wants that?
by Josh Timmers on Jan 24, 2012 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
Actually one more
According to the Yahoo article
McGraw retired after the 1932 season and managed the National League in the first All-Star game the following year.
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"Pain is inevitable, suffering is an option." - Dale Sveum
by RiskyBusiness on Jan 24, 2012 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
And again, that's not quite correct.
McGraw retired DURING the 1932 season due to ill health. The 1933 game, the first ASG, didn’t have set rules for who the manager would be. Connie Mack managed the AL team — his A’s did not win the AL in 1932.
Just a bit of research by the AP (where Yahoo got its story) would have put some meaning behind that statement, which was half wrong anyway.
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And yet stranger things have happened
Bob Lemon was fired as Yankee manager in 1979 before the ASG. And he still managed the ASG that summer.
The honor of managing the All-Star game is still LaRussa’s. I see no reason to take the honor away from him or to presume that he will perform inadequately or unprofessionally since his retirement.
"Just shut up and play" - Matt Garza
"Pain is inevitable, suffering is an option." - Dale Sveum
by RiskyBusiness on Jan 25, 2012 9:18 AM CST up reply actions
Because it counts!
It determines home field advantage! The guy doesn’t play baseball or coach baseball! He’s retired! BUD SELIG IS A JOKE.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
But again
If “it counts,” isn’t Tony LaRussa a much better choice to manage the team than Mike Matheny?
by Josh Timmers on Jan 24, 2012 8:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, if you don't know what to think, I do.
We’re now allowing a dude who is freaking RETIRED to manage the allstar game?
Are we going to allow recently retired baseball players to come back and play in the ASG too? How about Ken Griffey, can he play?
There’s also a real problem with allowing a man who has ZERO vested interest in the outcome of the game, managing a game that will determine home field advantage in the World Series. This is a truly stupid idea.
Will it have a HUGE impact? Maybe not, but these kinds of decisions are no-brainers, and Bud still manages to fuck them up.
For some fans, Kerry Wood is that dollap of pumpkin paste.
right??
give him the bench coach gig instead
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
or nothing.
Since he’s not in baseball anymore
For some fans, Kerry Wood is that dollap of pumpkin paste.
by Nunyabidness on Jan 24, 2012 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
or how bout just a special pre game introduction
This is just dumb altogether. Bud should be at the door shopping for oops i crapped my pants and not running a 30 team sport
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
Love your logic
Totally nonsensical.
Allowing a manager who last year got his team to the world series is in no way similar to allowing someone who has been retired for several years to come back and play in the game. Manager of the game is chosen in a totally different manner than the players.
I think LaRussa is a pud, but if you think he’s not going to care 100% who wins the game then you’re out to lunch.
And if you don't think there is a different level of effort given when you have nothing at stake, then you're out to lunch.
Manager of the game is chosen in a totally different manner than the players
You’re right, the changing the rules for who should manage the game are much easier
For some fans, Kerry Wood is that dollap of pumpkin paste.
by Nunyabidness on Jan 24, 2012 7:46 PM CST up reply actions
How are the rules changed
Can you tell me where these rules are written down? I was always under the impression that “The winning manager of the Pennant winning team” got to manage the all-star game. That’s Tony LaRussa, not Mike Matheny.
Wouldn’t it be changing the rules to let Matheny manage?
by Josh Timmers on Jan 24, 2012 8:08 PM CST up reply actions
Further...
… there is precident for Matheny to not manage the game. When Dusty Baker left the Giants to manage the Cubs, Moises Alou, his Giants replacement did not get to manage the NL, Baker did.
Clearly you've made up your mind
You have this belief that LaRussa, not having managed the first three months of the season will be totally out of game shape, his baseball mind will have atrophied, and he will lose interest and decide to go home in the 5th inning.
Your staunch convictions on this are bewildering and baseless.
by dmlichte on Jan 24, 2012 11:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I can't imagine enough to make a difference.
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"wait, tony retired? OH SHI-"
Just wee-un.
by jesus christos on Jan 24, 2012 5:08 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
say wut u want about him
… but a few more years he will have been commisoner longer than Landis and the game has grown big time under his watch. 50 years from now there will prolly be an award named after him just like Landis.
i think i'm going to puke
Just wee-un.
by jesus christos on Jan 24, 2012 7:04 PM CST up reply actions
lol
… seriously tho, when has baseball ever done better? Look at all the new parks, attendance, tv deals…He’s like Bill Clinton, right place, right time
Sigh.
He’s like Bill Clinton, right place, right time
I’m not gonna discuss politics, but I will say STFU with your ignorant nonsense
For some fans, Kerry Wood is that dollap of pumpkin paste.
by Nunyabidness on Jan 25, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
I'd prefer Bud Selig manage the game.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jan 24, 2012 6:10 PM CST reply actions
Your logo makes me angry.
I think I shall make a fanpost about it.
For some fans, Kerry Wood is that dollap of pumpkin paste.
by Nunyabidness on Jan 24, 2012 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
Marlins Nation will not stand for this
Just wee-un.
by jesus christos on Jan 24, 2012 7:49 PM CST up reply actions
This will be terrible
How in the Wide Wide World of Sports could MLB allow a retired manager with 33 years of experience to manage the All-Star game.
We’re Doomed!!
"Just shut up and play" - Matt Garza
"Pain is inevitable, suffering is an option." - Dale Sveum
yeah, the minons on this board want Ron Roenicke
who has managed a grand total of 170 games in his career to a guy who has managed more than 5,000 games, who since 1988 has been in six world series and won three of them.
No, I want the all-star game to go back to not counting
and I want Bud Selig the eff out of baseball.
For some fans, Kerry Wood is that dollap of pumpkin paste.
by Nunyabidness on Jan 24, 2012 8:01 PM CST up reply actions
And that's a completely different question
"Just shut up and play" - Matt Garza
"Pain is inevitable, suffering is an option." - Dale Sveum
by RiskyBusiness on Jan 25, 2012 9:01 AM CST up reply actions
Ron Roenicke was just an option
IF La Russa wasn’t going to do it then who would you want in it. I say Roenicke because the Cards beat the brewers in the NLCS. My second option would be the team with the best record at the time of the All star break. But I don’t know how Dale Sveum would do in that game. SARCASM
Well
… the Phillies had the best record in the NL in 2011. So maybe it should be Charlie Manuel.
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hopefully
he doesnt get a DUI on the way to the game from all of the partying he’s been doing for his retirement
I have written this before.
Let’s can the La Russa/DUI “jokes”. They weren’t funny to begin with, and they’re a tired old meme now. Enough.
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Yes, unlike Tony with booze...
we know when enough is enough here @ BCB.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jan 25, 2012 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
A retired TLR
managing the non-sensical ASG seems like a joke someone would make up. In that sense, I’m fine with him managing.
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by Craig in South Bend on Jan 25, 2012 8:51 AM CST reply actions
I don't have a single problem with this
His team won the World Series. He has the right to do it.
I couldn’t possibly care less about the All-Star Game. I no longer watch it. And letting a retired manager work a game that determines home-field is no more offensive than requiring that every team be represented or letting fans vote on the participants. The game already be fubared, why not let the man come back?
And if he’s also managing against Ron Washington again, the NL should be favored for that reason alone, no matter how many overweight DHs go from the NL to the AL.
"It's all in the game, yo"
by Worf on Jan 25, 2012 9:25 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
And letting a retired manager work a game that determines home-field is no more offensive than requiring that every team be represented or letting fans vote on the participants.
Here’s a summary of exactly what is wrong with the ASG.
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and why having TLR manage for it this year shouldn't be such a controversy
as a matter of fact as long as the ‘home-field’ determination remains for this exhibition game I think they should add a new gimmick each year – in 2013 maybe having a fan contest to win the opportunity to pinch hit in the bottom of the ninth -
by doofus cubs guy on Jan 25, 2012 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
And I guess why I'm arguing that this no big deal
If anything, this is a positive for the NL, because WTF does LaRussa care how many innings a pitcher goes or whose feelings get hurt over being on or off the roster?
I’m sure some stat-head can tell me all the reasons why homefield is important, but I just don’t really care. The AL won the thing a billion times in a row and the Marlins, Phillies, Cardinals (2006) and Giants managed to win.
"It's all in the game, yo"
"This time, it counts."
The only thing wrong with the ASG is trying to treat it like it’s not an exhibition game.
You takin' notes on a criminal f****** conspiracy?
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Here's the thing
I love Dan, but he’s not street enough for in here and not smart enough for out there.
"It's all in the game, yo"
Here's another reason not to care
In 2013, LaRussa will be managing the Angels after the Yankees flop again this year and throw stupid money at Sciosia.
"It's all in the game, yo"
In 2013, LaRussa will be managing the Angels after the Yankees flop again this year and throw stupid money at Sciosia.
This will not happen.
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