Cespedes Doesn't Want Marlins
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Yet another similarity between Al and Yoennis Cespedes
Cespedes Doesn’t Want Marlins
Step Three: Patience. The plan is in place.
by Shanghai Badger on Jan 25, 2012 1:13 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I also heard they both defected from their native countries.
But after seeing their new stadium, a few of my friends in Miami don’t even want the Marlins anymore……….
~Ronald Reagan has held the two most demeaning jobs in the country; President of the United States and radio broadcaster for the Chicago Cubs~ George F. Will
by unretrofied93 on Jan 25, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
If the Cubs do sign Yoenis...
…he’ll instantly become the anti-RoLo.
"[The Cubs] have a very famous tradition in baseball, and it will be nice to be part of turning it around." ~ Jamie Quirk, Bench Coach
not to get all Al Yellon on anyone here...
where else are these “feelings” coming from?
So i you can give you can take it.
2003?
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by unretrofied93 on Jan 25, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
not the i hate the marlins...
the feeling that Cespedes doesnt want to go to the marlins…it is only a Tweet after all.
So i you can give you can take it.
TWEETS ARE LAWS FROM GOD!
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by RiskyBusiness on Jan 25, 2012 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, exactly....whos feeling that?
and if there is any truth to that, id have to say that would put the cubs as the front runner. but once again…who is saying this anywas
This may be a key development...
…if Knobler’s report is accurate. FWIW, I’m going to ask him via Twitter to please write a complete post on his blog explaining this “feeling” he’s referring to. It’s maddeningly vague and he doesn’t appear to have written anything about it recently.
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As you found out
… that’s correct, this was first written about in December, nothing since.
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Yeah, I stand corrected (sit, actually).
This isn’t really a development, though it is an interesting wrinkle to the story that doesn’t seem to have gotten much attention.
"[The Cubs] have a very famous tradition in baseball, and it will be nice to be part of turning it around." ~ Jamie Quirk, Bench Coach
If this is true ...
I wonder if TheoJed knew it months ago. It would further explain the offseason, lying-in-the-weeds strategy.
But, yeah, this does seem vague as hell and possibly bullshit.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Update
Knobler responded:
I wrote it in December. Not really a new development
Here’s the blogpost to which he’s probably referring. Important quote:
Also, Cespedes has told people that he plans to make his permanent home in the Dominican Republic, rather than in Miami, and may prefer to go to a team other than the Marlins.
I don’t really understand the conflict between living in the DR and playing in Miami, but there it is.
"[The Cubs] have a very famous tradition in baseball, and it will be nice to be part of turning it around." ~ Jamie Quirk, Bench Coach
yeah very strange.
who knows. im just speculating but maybe during all those meals he had with the cubs he mentioned something. spit balling here cause theres literally nothing. just food for thought…no pun intended
Maybe just channeling the presumption
That a Cuban would prefer to live and, by extension, work in Miami?
If Cespedes doesn’t care about living there, I suppose it follows that the Marlins don’t have the inside track by virtue of location alone.
by Limey Cub Fan Jay on Jan 25, 2012 2:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, he's presumably lived in Cuba his entire life up until now...
…and maybe he wants a totally new experience…? I dunno.
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In which case, I think the Rockies would have the inside track...
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Once he sees that money and florida girls
he’ll change his mind
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by Josh Timmers on Jan 25, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
Just remember....some of them aren't girls......
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by unretrofied93 on Jan 25, 2012 4:59 PM CST up reply actions
Interesting side note on Florida girls
He chose Miami for its academics, its athletics, and its social scene, noting: "I think the girls were the deal closer on the recruiting trip.
Per Ryan Brauns wikipedia page
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by shoemile on Oct 21, 2011 10:10 PM CDT
by Madison Cub Fan on Jan 25, 2012 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
MLB SAYS CESPEDES IS A FREE AGENT RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!
Or this could just be a bad rumor on twitter.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jan 25, 2012 3:36 PM CST reply actions
ZOMG
GITERDUNNTHEO&JEDUNLESSUTHINKHEWILLSTRIKEOUTALLTHETIMELIKESORIANO!!!!11
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Do you not understand the difference
… between tweeting actual facts, and speculation?
Or are you just attempting to be clever and funny?
Because you are neither.
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Do you not understand the difference
… between Yams and Sweet Potatoes?
Because I don’t.
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by santoswoodenlegs on Jan 25, 2012 4:05 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
You two are my favorite odd couple.
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by Craig in South Bend on Jan 26, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
SNARK FACTOR 10000!!!
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if the cubs don't sign cespedes i'm becoming an astros fan
Just wee-un.
by jesus christos on Jan 25, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
it's a threat
be afraid, theo. be very afraid..
Just wee-un.
by jesus christos on Jan 25, 2012 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
Didn't the new Astros owner say he was considering changing the name?
DUMP GARZA. CORRECT THE COSMIC WRONG.
i don't know, i'm not an astros fan
yet
Just wee-un.
by jesus christos on Jan 25, 2012 4:17 PM CST up reply actions
Colt 45s
They were debating this on PTI too
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"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
Never happen....
you can’t name a team after DANGEROUS THINGS THAT KILL PEOPLE. The Washington Bullets were responsible for at least 3,268 gunshot wounds alone in the 90’s.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jan 25, 2012 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
--
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
by Hammer on Jan 25, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I was going to ask whether he was fast...
…but I see he’s bunting, so he must’ve been.
"[The Cubs] have a very famous tradition in baseball, and it will be nice to be part of turning it around." ~ Jamie Quirk, Bench Coach
remember when Neifi bunted with 2 outs and the
bases loaded?? It was right back to the pitcher to end the game. Sigh
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
I do remember that, actually.
And he said something afterward like, “Bunting is part of my game, man. Had to do it.”
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Scott Bullett fun facs
Bullett now runs a very successful elite baseball program fielding 4 teams out of the town of Welland, Ontario by the name of Bullettproof Baseball.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
i remember when my pet turtle disappeared
my parents told me that it suffocated in a white sock. i miss him
Just wee-un.
by jesus christos on Jan 25, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
Colt 45s are ONLY a "DANGEROUS THING THAT KILLS PEOPLE"...
…if you drink about 12-15 of them while driving down a dirt road going 75 MPH just prior to you stating the following…“Hey guys, watch this”….
How 'bout the Houston Lone Stars...?
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I bet this beer tastes like absolute shit...
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it makes Old Style seem classy IMHO
i am not a fan, but many love it.
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A: To Dump Garza
I would drink it only at this one BBQ place in Evanston.
It is Old Style-esque, but therein lies its charm…I guess.
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Seems to me truth-in-advertising laws would require them to change it to "Lastros"
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
WHAT!
WHO WOULDN’T WANT THE MARLINS!
MARLINS IN 2012!
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
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"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jan 25, 2012 5:06 PM CST up reply actions
Is that the Marlins pep squad that I read about?
"[The Cubs] have a very famous tradition in baseball, and it will be nice to be part of turning it around." ~ Jamie Quirk, Bench Coach
NO.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jan 25, 2012 5:23 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I...uh...that is to say...wow.
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this might make the CF technicolor light show bareable
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A: To Dump Garza
Top row, 3rd from the right. First place.
Everyone else – tied for second. Not that there’s anything wrong with that…
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I'm more of a 4th from the right
top row type of guy myself. Have mercy Miss Percy.
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by RiskyBusiness on Jan 26, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
You know--Risky does make a great point
"God, I always said I would never bother you about baseball, but if you could make this pain in my shoulder stop for ten minutes, I would really appreciate it."
Billy Chapel
so we can all agree
the best looking one is the one who says yes?
Q: Why did Theo Epstein cross the road?
A: To Dump Garza
you know, on seventieth thought, you might have a point...
I’m gonna have to demand a recount. In fact, I think the whole right side of the top row is going to have to have a special runoff election.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I didn't read that last word right the frst 3 times.
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by santoswoodenlegs on Jan 26, 2012 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
Ah, yes Miss, I will buy that over-priced jersey from you
I should buy two? Sure that sounds like a good idea.
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by RiskyBusiness on Jan 26, 2012 12:31 AM CST up reply actions
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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
by fsuapollo on Jan 26, 2012 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Luxury box lap dances.
That’s gold, Jerry, gold!
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I am waiting for this to be a real press release.
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i wonder how long he waits to sign with whoever.
i’m sure he wants to guarentee he goes to spring training so he can try and break camp. the sooner the better.
For the right price...
because I don’t think he’s going to be very awesome.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jan 25, 2012 4:59 PM CST up reply actions
Wow.
A baseball related post from you that I actually agree with.
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::snarky comment::
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jan 25, 2012 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
I don't like his swing all that much
MLB network was showing a bunch of workout footage and a number of his hits and his swing looks real “noisy” to me (for lack of a better term). I mean yea—the guy has quads like Eric Heiden, but that doesn’t equate to investing a small fortune over a period of years.
I’m hard pressed to think of any good MLB players that are built like him—he’s more of a running back or LB type. But great ML players come in ALL shapes and sizes, so one never knows. We have to leave that to Theo’s minions to discern.
"God, I always said I would never bother you about baseball, but if you could make this pain in my shoulder stop for ten minutes, I would really appreciate it."
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Yea--I'd agree tha Bo qualifies as good
but when you look at his number ’89 was his one standout year and ’90 was a good year—with WARs of 2.4 and 3.6 respectively, but he was a much better football player.
He also came into the league at age 23. Cespedes is already 26 I believe? I just hope and assume that we’ll tread with caution. I’m pretty sure our homework has all been turned in. There have have been other guys who I thought maybe we could sign the last couple months—but did not. Our management looks like they know wht they’re doing.
It’s attractive to get what we hope is a good, mature player without having to spend the time drafting him or trading others and simply just pay. It seems like a nice shortcut.
"God, I always said I would never bother you about baseball, but if you could make this pain in my shoulder stop for ten minutes, I would really appreciate it."
Billy Chapel
What if...
If you know that Cespedes would have the career of Bo Jackson, would you want the Cubs to sign him?
Like, if he had exactly the same career path as shown for Bo on Baseball-Reference — 2 years figuring it out, a year of turning the corner, 2 years of being very good, and 3-4 years of struggling through injuries at basically replacement value before hanging ’em up.
Would you take that? Would you pay $30 million for it? How about $60 million?
That's an interesting hypothetical
If I look at Bo’s best 4 years—he’s basically a .250 hitter with a ton of strikeouts and ranging from 22-32 HRs during that span. I remember him having an incredible arm and being a pretty good SB threat. He was not a particularly good outfielder though and was amongst the leaders in errors a couple times.
If I take Carlos Pena’s best 4 year stretch (which came at a later age and after injury), Pena was far more productive and is a far superior defender. Before the Rizzo trade I thought we could have used Pena..I think TB signed him for arounf $7M? But we seemed to have to interest in signing him—not sure what my point is except that a known commodity generates no excitement and someone who’s pretty much unknown and who’s getting slaughtered in the winter DR league right now has everyone excited.
So—would I want to pay Cespedes $60M locked in at age 26 for Bo Jackson #‘s? Yes, if he’s a better outfielder than Bo and a better BA would be nice. I’ve not heard a whole bunch on his plate discipline though, but I believe we’ve been told that he’s a good base runner.
It’d have been interersting to see what Bo could have done if his hip had not gotten dislocated.
And as the Great One said—Bo did NOT know hockey.
"God, I always said I would never bother you about baseball, but if you could make this pain in my shoulder stop for ten minutes, I would really appreciate it."
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by RiskyBusiness on Jan 26, 2012 9:08 AM CST up reply actions
Well i agree, i dont think we should spend crazy for him.
i do think he will be a little expensive, but once again i trust this front office evaluation processs. this is obviously a guy they have targeted from day one so lets get it done. and i’ve said it before these guys i feel like have that itch to make a big splash. human nature.
There's this website I know of,
and it says 38 days til spring training games start.
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I've been spending way too much time there and wikipedia
I think this is probably Theo’s fault
The Stat Pack
by shoemile on Oct 21, 2011 10:10 PM CDT
by Madison Cub Fan on Jan 25, 2012 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
Cespedes
Is he suppose to be good enough to make the big league club right away? And what about Soler? Just curious, as I have read some of the write ups but really haven’t gotten an indication either way. Thanks in advance.
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by By Santo's Grace on Jan 25, 2012 5:58 PM CST reply actions
Soler is a minor leaguer
From what most have seen/discussed, neither are really major league ready.
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by unretrofied93 on Jan 25, 2012 6:02 PM CST up reply actions
Cespedes
probably needs at least a half a season in the minors. Probably a full year.
Soler is probably 3-4 years away. He’s also much younger.
by Josh Timmers on Jan 25, 2012 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
Do they give Cespedes that 1/2-1 year in the minors though?
i’m not so sure.
If signed, maybe give him a full year in Iowa...
…then dump Soriano after this season and install Yoenis in left field…?
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i just dont see them giving him that money, and at 26, leaving him in the minors this year
maybe a month or two down there, but not the year. you cant pay a 26 yr old the money that they will need to if you dont think hes ready or very very close. just my opinion
This contains little merit, IMO.
His agent has heard the Marlins statement that they will pay aggressively for him, almost to the point of “stupid.” Well he doesn’t “want” to go to Miami so you’re going to have to pony up to get my client.
UPDATE
And brace yourself — cuz it’s a tweet:
Hearing Cespedes has no issues against playing for #Marlins
~Marlins beat writer Joe Frisaro
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