Cubs Interested in Ramon Ortiz

Don't we have enough depth yet?

3 months ago bdlugz 26 comments 0 recs |

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Yikes.

Granted, it would be a minor league deal, which I more or less file under “no harm no foul”… but Ortiz is really, really bad. Like… makes RoLo look like Cy Young bad.

Ortiz has been worth over 1.0 WAR exactly twice in his career… 2002 being the last. That’s right… it will have been a DECADE since Ramon Ortiz was really a positive addition to a club. Heck… he’s only had positive WAR once since 2004!!!

Hopefully he’s being signed as the BP pitcher for Iowa… and nothing more.

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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST

by fsuapollo on Feb 13, 2012 10:39 PM CST reply actions

IF he makes Iowa's team

he might be a “player/coach type” there. If he makes the team. If he straight out makes the team in Iowa, he’ll almost definitely be the long man in the bullpen.

by Mulhollandmania on Feb 13, 2012 11:42 PM CST up reply actions

Yuck.

by Dcr18 on Feb 13, 2012 10:39 PM CST reply actions

your question and your answer

Don’t we have enough depth yet?

Cubs president of baseball operations Theo Epstein said when he was hired on Oct. 21 that he wanted the pitching staff to go 10 deep in starting pitcher candidates.

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by Hammer on Feb 13, 2012 10:48 PM CST reply actions

I think we have at least 10 at this point.

by bdlugz on Feb 13, 2012 10:57 PM CST up reply actions

I think we do too

Garza, Dumpster, Maholm, Wells, TWood, Volstad, Sonnanstine, Coleman, Rodrigo, Jay Jackson
Not including Shark because his days as a starter are finished, no matter what they say.

I think this would just be a signing to get someone with lots of experience, if not for Chicago, for Iowa. I also tend to think if he makes Iowa, he’ll be coming out of the ’pen, as that team will have a ton of rotation candidates.

by Mulhollandmania on Feb 13, 2012 11:40 PM CST up reply actions

Also McNutt could get some looks

and a couple other guys. Struck? this move wouldnt make sense. there’s even better retreads if they really want to do that.

by MDavis on Feb 14, 2012 8:38 AM CST up reply actions

Having guys in Iowa with experience

isn’t a bad thing. He has experience with being a ML starter, an ML reliever, a ML year long player, and a guy who rides the bus between AAA and MLB. I think he was signed to be a “player/coach” type in Iowa, being on the DL unless they’re short of pitchers, getting activated for a few games, then right back on the DL.

by Mulhollandmania on Feb 14, 2012 8:50 AM CST up reply actions

If you want him to be a coach in Iowa, sign him to be a coach.

He literally has nothing left to offer the Cubs as a player, and it’s not like we need more guys to fill out our AAA rotation.

by bdlugz on Feb 14, 2012 9:04 AM CST up reply actions

I doubt he makes their rotation

And being a “player/coach” is essentially the first step in becoming a full time coach. Mark Johnson is a prime example in recent memory. I don’t get why people are fine with Bobby Scales being signed, and this riles people up. We’re just as likely to see Scales in Wrigley as we are to see Ortiz, i.e. the team will have to be absurdly decimated by injury for either to even sniff a chance of a call up.

by Mulhollandmania on Feb 14, 2012 10:36 AM CST up reply actions

People here fussed about Scales, too

See the thread, with cool graphics

But I don’ get it, either. He’s not going to block anyone, so who cares?

by CJK on Feb 14, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions

I agree with the general premise

But I see a couple important differences between Scales and Ortiz.

Scales has been a Cub for a while, so he’s got a track record with the organization. Scales has also performed relatively well at Iowa. Ortiz really has neither of those things going for him.

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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST

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