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Thank You, I'll Be Here All Week

I haven't thrown in the towel yet, but I've started doing towel drills.

[RIMSHOT!]

Or, maybe you'd like this quote from the legendary New York writer Jimmy Breslin, writing about the horrendous 1962 Mets:

They lost an awful lot of games by one run, which is the mark of a bad team. They also lost innumerable games by 14 runs. This is the mark of a terrible team. ... They lost at home and they lost away, they lost at night and they lost in the daytime. And they lost with maneuvers that shake the imagination.

Seriously. The 2006 Cubs aren't that bad, but they do come up with new and imaginative ways to lose every day. Today: ten walks, two runs scored on wild pitches, another on a tough error given to Aramis Ramirez that could have been a DP ball, and yet more on a three-run homer into the teeth of a northeast wind.

You know the facts. The Cubs lost 9-0 to the Padres today. That's the first sweep by San Diego in Wrigley Field in 14 years. They got swept out of the season series with the Padres. It's 12 losses in 13 games, 14 of 16.

They lost to a pitcher who threw his first major league complete game and shutout. A pitcher who had issued seventeen walks in his last 27.1 innings -- and today, he walked one. And it was Neifi Perez. And he had to do that intentionally.

Meanwhile, Cub pitchers were issuing ten walks to go along with the nine Padre hits, the guy who reached on Aramis' error, and one hit batsman by Jae-Kuk Ryu, making his ML debut. I told Mike, after Ryu struck out two in his inning of work, that I hoped he'd strike out the side.

That'd make him ... the new Todd Wellemeyer.

Thank you! I'll be here all week!

And after that, he didn't wind up doing it, anyway.

Brian Giles tied a major league record by walking five times in a nine-inning game. Meanwhile, Hensley struck out all five times he batted. We are investigating whether or not that's ever happened in the same game, much less by players on the same team, before.

Watching Rich Hill closely, you can see why he has trouble at this level, and why I will continue to call him a Quadruple-A player. He nibbles around the plate with that curveball. Triple-A hitters will get fooled by that and swing and whiff at it many times; this accounts for Hill's huge K numbers at Iowa this year. Major league hitters -- excellent example, Giles, a patient hitter -- will lay off that sort of thing, and thus, Hill walks too many people, thus leading to far too many runs.

Hill actually kept the Cubs in the game till he was lifted for Scott Williamson with the score still a manageable 2-0. Williamson promptly walked the first hitter he faced, then wild-pitched in one of Hill's runners as well as one of his own, after Josh Barfield singled.

Had enough of this? Yeah, I have too. The sun came out today -- we thought that might be a good omen, but all it did was make it comfortable in the 52-degree weather, until the 8th inning when clouds and fog began to roll in off the lake.

So, with Mark in tow today, Jeff & Krista decided to amuse me by telling me he didn't need a haircut, even though he's now sporting bangs that cover his eyes and some Star Trek-looking sideburns.

Take a look at the photo below:

And then vote in the poll I've posted on this topic, on the right sidebar.

At this point, we need just about anything to distract us from this disaster of a team. I didn't want to believe it till today, but they really do look like they've quit. Cub pitchers threw 174 pitches today; Hensley threw 92. You'd think that after a while, especially with a pitcher with the history of wildness that Hensley has, that the Cubs would be more patient and try to get on base.

Nope. It looks like Juan Pierre's been well-scouted by most teams -- yesterday, he had three flyouts to left, today, two groundouts to first. His stats in the leadoff spot are approaching 2005 Patterson territory. No one else hit at all today; the only two hits (doubles by Todd Walker and Michael Barrett) were ground balls that were both just fair, one inside each foul line.

What to do? Look, we all love this team and love the game, or we wouldn't be here. It's terrible to think that after thirty-seven games, the season may be lost. Wholesale firings at this point aren't going to change a thing. Jim Hendry must be held accountable, yes, but it is the roster for which he is accountable, and he hasn't given the proper tools for winning -- and that's even taking into consideration that the best hitter on the ballclub is injured and out for an extended period (and the Cubs are now 6-17 without Derrek Lee).

If there is anything to salvage from this season -- even just playing competitive baseball -- Hendry has to make some moves and NOW, and having a day off tomorrow, with no game till Tuesday night, might be just the time to do so. And someone has to step up. Getting a "disciplinarian" manager isn't the answer -- this is the time when one of the players has to call a closed-door meeting, and hash out exactly what's wrong.

Got to see something else that's rarely seen -- a runner called out for leaving too early on an apparent sacrifice fly, nullifying a San Diego run in the fourth inning and instead, resulting in an inning-ending double play.

Yes, that's what we're reduced to. Someone sitting in the section to my left, during Ryu's horrid inning, yelled out, "Bring in Assenmacher." Well, heck, Paul Assenmacher, ex-Cub reliever from the late 80's and early 90's, is only 45 years old. And lefthanded. Why not?

Enough. Everyone needs the day off tomorrow -- players, fans, everyone. Jim Hendry, DO SOMETHING TOMORROW. Please.

Oh, and

THE PA SPEAKERS ARE STILL TOO LOUD! PLEASE, PLEASE TURN THEM DOWN!

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Off Day
Yes, tomorrow is an off day and it is a day that there better be some activity at Clark and Addison. If there isn't, I seriously believe that Hendry has no intention of doing anything and is simply waiting for this team to pull itself out of the nosedive it is currently in. In the last two weeks, we've seen ONE win.

What to do? To me, it's easy. I would fire Dusty. He has been at the helm since 2003 and over we've seen this team get collectively worse over that time. I cannot see this happening, however here is what else I'd do, TOMORROW!

  • Fire Gene Clines and Gary Matthews. These two have been in charge of a miserable offense over the past four years. The team's approach to hitting has been horrid. Why Matthews as well? Because Clines should not be the lone fall guy when Matthews also has been a hitting coach and simply got refolded into the Cubs staff. Replace them with whoever. I'd love to see Sandberg the new first base coach for this team.
  • Fire Larry Rothschild. I've long been a supporter of him, however lets look at the record. Pitchers who have fared well under his watch: Dempster, Marshall (perhaps), Zambrano. Pitchers who have failed/seen their career head south/gone on to success elsewhere: Farnsworth, Cruz, Koronka, Mitre, Wellemeyer, Hawkins, Clement, Remlinger, Estes, Alfonseca. Its time to cut him loose and make a change. That change is NOT Dick Pole.
  • Move Hairston, Bynum, Novoa and Rusch. Bynum and Rusch are useless. Novoa needs to go to AAA. Hairston is not getting it done playing twice a week.
DmL

by dmlichte on May 14, 2006 5:09 PM CDT   0 recs

I'm in total agreement with you...
... and ALL those moves could be made tomorrow. Well, at least the coaching moves. It might take longer to move Rusch and Hairston; Bynum and Novoa could be DFA'd tomorrow.

by Al on May 14, 2006 5:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well said...
nt
Bring me the head of Rafael Furcal.

by Ross on May 14, 2006 6:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Rothschild
Not sure that I agree that you can blame Rothschild for the likes of: Farnsworth, Cruz, Koronka, Mitre, Wellemeyer, Hawkins, Clement, Remlinger, Estes, Alfonseca.  Of all these guys, not one has had sustained success since leaving the Cubs, and for Clement, his best days came as a Cub.

Not that Rothschild is not culpable in part for the mess, but let's be fair.

Eamus Ursuli!

by WGNstatic on May 14, 2006 8:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The Management is to Blame--The TOP GUYS!!!
The Cubs bgean their demise when they rode Prior and Wood harder than any other starters in the majors to the 2003 playoffs.  It was a mistake to do that then and it's still cuasing lots of problems now...

The team's managment believes in dominant pitching, and then turns the young talent over to a boob who doesn't understand pitching except that he thinks the pitchers should tell him when they need to come out of the game...urggghhh!!!

The Team Management, i.e., McPhail, Hendry and Baker have decided to hang their hats on the Wood and Prior saga.  Guess what guys?  Just like the odds favor the house in Vegas, the odds are stacked heavily against those 2 returning to 2003 dominance.  So I blame these three Cubs boobs for living in the past!

It's no one's fault that lee is injured and out, but it sure is hendry and Baker's fault for building a team that has consistently ignored the improtance of getting on base and how it helps one score runs consistently.  The offense will be better with a healthy Lee, but seriously it's a mediocre offense at best when Lee is healthy.  Barrett, Walker, and Cedeno played fantastic in April but they seriously played over their heads, too.  Now they are returning to their levels (regressing to their means) and we still haven't seen jack from Pierre and Aaramis.  These 2 players deserve a whole lot of criticism, they have performed woefully and it has nothing to do with Lee being out.  Jones sucks in my opinion, but I give him credit for totally smoking righties and really turning it on during the road trip to the west coast.  Had Aaramis and Pierre hit as well as Jones di d on that road trip then we'd be seeing much better offesne but still horrific starting pitching every 4th and 5th day.

In two more years it will be 100 years of fricking losing!  IU hate it!  I say fire the entire organization and blow up the fricking shrine to losers and start over completely.

The Cubs have no plan, they deserve to be obliterated!

by DudeVf1 on May 14, 2006 8:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

why preserve dusty?
what's he worth? how's he helping?

or have we just succumbed to the intoxication of celebrity here?

1060west -- sans libert? de bl?mer, il n'est point d'?loge flatteur.

by gaius marius on May 15, 2006 8:45 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

because
it tastes great with toast and peanut butter.  I love preserves.
One day, the dream will come true.

by brianp88 on May 15, 2006 8:49 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i hadn't considered
that dusty could be spreadable. hmm.

but remember that, in order to become spreadable, he'll have to be properly canned. :)

1060west -- sans libert? de bl?mer, il n'est point d'?loge flatteur.

by gaius marius on May 15, 2006 9:20 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL
Well, before we mummify Baker, check out this quote:

"We're terribly disappointed in our season. It was unexpected. We have to hire the right manager and make improvements personnel-wise." - Cubs General Manager Jim Hendry.

Is the preceding Jim Hendry quote in today's paper?  Nope.  It's from 2002.  Here's our starters on Opening Day, 2002:

Roosevelt Brown
Delino DeShields
Alex Gonzalez
Todd Hundley
Jon Lieber
Fred McGriff
Corey Patterson
Sammy Sosa
Chris Stynes

A year later, the Cubs were five outs from going to the World Series.  That tells you that this thing can be turned around in a years time.  

What can be done to fix this?  I know you're calling for Dusty's head, but if Hendry fires Baker, he's all but admitting he made a mistake and that puts his head on the chopping block too.  Is Hendry ready to do that?  I doubt it.  It might be the right thing to do, but is it really going to happen?  I don't know.  I don't think it will.  Even IF Hendry decides he has to fire Baker, is he realistically going to hire Piniella or someone of his stature?  Would he Piniella even come here?  If the Cubs can't get/don't want him, who else is out there? Bruce Kimm?    

It's easy to say fire Baker, but that isn't going to solve all of our problems.  Dusty isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, the problem is he's in a gun fight with a knife.  He's got rookie pitchers, an under performing centerfielder, an under performing third baseman a horrible signing for a right fielder.  His best pitchers and his best overall player is on the DL.  Casey Stengel couldn't win with this lot.  We'll have to trade Pierre for prospects, find a way to get rid of Jones (easier said than done) and get some bench depth for next year.  Baker isn't the world's greatest manager, but I'm not blaming him for this dismal season.   Firing Baker isn't he first order of business.  Improving the roster is.

One day, the dream will come true.

by brianp88 on May 15, 2006 10:03 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't
I'd fire him right now. Those who know my opinion know I would have fired him long ago. I just don't think Hendry is gonna do it. If he isn't, he MUST start at this and dump Clines, Matthews and Rothschild.

I will say this, however. I do not blame this season's failings on Baker. Hendry put a lousy team together. Baker, of course, has gotten the bare minimum out of them, but while in seasons past I could honestly say that I felt Baker was costing games w/ strategic moves as well as with the way he handled the clubhouse, I think he's been okay this year...not great, but okay. I'd fire him because I still think hes a bad manager and not the guy I want leading this club. His errors of he past are reason enough to me.

DmL

by dmlichte on May 15, 2006 9:39 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Lifeless
That is  how we looked today. Yesterday's loss seemed to zap any energy we had left. I think Hendry needs a move but to do this we need a partner and I have no idea who is willing to trade with us and for what. Off day is good, time to regroup. But speaking of bad, Williamson TWO wild pitch run scored??? I mean that is the ultimate bad. Trade him for a start!

by mrcubsfan on May 14, 2006 5:10 PM CDT   0 recs

Lifeless
but not only today, for 2 weeks already. The question is how dis they win 14 of 24 to begin the season, and how did they win 6 without Lee? must be the law of averages. They can't win at night, during the day, at home or on the road. They lose to good, awful, and mediocre pitchers. At the same time the pitching staff has started to mail it in too. A team completely without emotion is what they've become, and they do not deserve to be paid.

FIRE Hendry, Dusty, Larry, Dick, and Gene. You can keep Speier and Sarge (as long as he stays coaching 1st!)

DFA Novoa, Bynum and Rusch.

release Williamson and recall Aardsma and Wuertz, he was sent down very quickly, while Novoa continues too stink up the joint.

Keep Mabry till Lee gets back, after that keep him only if he performs, he's a Card, probably a mole too. :)

by CubFaninNY on May 14, 2006 5:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Release WIlliamson!?!
Yeah, and let's release that bum playing third who had a run scoring error today and is batting 230.  While we are at it, let's throw the baby out with the bathwater!!
Eamus Ursuli!

by WGNstatic on May 14, 2006 8:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

what has he done?
If you can't keep runners from scoring what can you do? he ALWAYS has  inheriting runners scoring on him, whether by BB or WP. The only way you keep him is for mopup roles, and only with nobody on base.

by CubFaninNY on May 15, 2006 10:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Last year, the Astros were
15-30 on May 24th and declared dead by the Houston Chronicle.  A gravestone and obituary were published on the front page of the sports section.

Yes, I know we aren't the Astros.  But I like dreaming about it.

by sanantonecub on May 14, 2006 5:17 PM CDT   0 recs

Whatever gets you through the night
n/t
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico!"--Harry Caray

by cubbiejulie on May 14, 2006 5:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

keep on dreaming
whatever does it for you man. The Astros were a fluke, the Cubs are flukes in the opposite direction.

by CubFaninNY on May 14, 2006 5:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't ever change, dude...
We need optimists like you posting here now to balance out our angst and rage....

Wood's line the other night in the minoirs was not that good.  In fact, he sort of struggled against AAA players.  But hey, he should fit right in because we have players on our bench, Bynum and Perez, etc...who would struggle in AAA...

Can the Cubs turn around like the Astors last year?  I was choking on my own rage so much that I find this question to be very interesting, a Heimlich maneuver to my emotions right now....

Hmmmm....The Cubs have a bullpen, an excellent bullpen...If we can get the game to that pen tied or with a 1 run lead, then we can start winning lots of games.  But every 4th and 5th day we have Bozo and Bronco the Clowns pitching for us...The Cubs are tied to the fortunes of Wood and Prior, unfortunately...If they had a better ofense I could see the possibility of turning it around...If they did turn it around like the Stros did then Aramis and Pierre have to start hitting huge and now...

by DudeVf1 on May 14, 2006 11:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Define quit
1.Seeing a total of 29 pitches the last 4 innings of today's game.
2.Putting Perez in the starting lineup.
3.Talking about bad breaks as if that were the reason for losing.
4.Blaming the lack of veteran leadership for the lack of focus and execution.
5.Calling fans quitters for failing to accept the poor performance.
6.Expecting a GM to magically reenergize a pathetic team by bringing in a washed up veteran.

I'm sure there are many other examples but I quit looking for them. But I ask one question. What one act would send a signal that things better change or else? It has to be the firing of Baker. Anything else is lip service. Yet we still hear that Hendry is waiting for the opportunity to extend his contract. That would be the ultimate slap in the face to all Cub fans who have supported the team year after year. Anything less negates the PR spin control that rules the organization's response to ineptitude.

Players win awards but teams win championships.

by tharr on May 14, 2006 5:18 PM CDT   0 recs

Agreed
there are a lot of things that the players can't control. One thing they can control is patience at the plate. There is just no excuse for going up there and striking out on three pitches. NONE.

Don't these guys watch film? How hard is it to say to yourself "I'm not swinging at the first pitch, no matter what? I'm not swinging at the second pitch unless I absolutely, positively, can't lay off."

Worked for Wade Boggs.

"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico!"--Harry Caray

by cubbiejulie on May 14, 2006 5:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Amen
there are a lot of things that the players can't control. One thing they can control is patience at the plate. There is just no excuse for going up there and striking out on three pitches. NONE.

That's the truth!

by ccd on May 14, 2006 8:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

unfortunately
they play for a certain toothpick-suckler who actually encourages this freeswinging. they're doing what they're told, just as they did last year.

most of the players would take pitches if they were commanded to under threat of benching. but who's gonna do that on this club?

1060west -- sans libert? de bl?mer, il n'est point d'?loge flatteur.

by gaius marius on May 15, 2006 8:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Take Pitches or be benched?
I do not think that you would need to go that far to get the players to show more selectivity.  Simply tell them that if they take pitches and get walks they will not be punished, and that quite the contrary, it will be viewed favorably by the manager.   The "problem" is that the Manager has an anti-walk mindset and he has, whether intentionally or not, enforced it on every team he has managed with the exception of one player (Mr. Bonds).

by Frustrated Fan on May 15, 2006 10:09 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Dude
I feel like you made up half those reasons on the spot.

But it's pretty obvious now, this is Dusty's last season.

...right downtown and PRINT IT!!!

by CliffX on May 14, 2006 6:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't count on Dusty leaving...
Although I wish he never came here and that he would leave this instant, don't count on Dusty being fired or just let go...Hendry is an old school Scout who is idiotically loyal to his pals.  I think it's still 90/10 in favor of Dusty getting a reasonable contract offer from his buddy.  Hendry is probably waiting until they win 2 in a row so that he can claim that he sees progress?

Or maybe he is waiting for the game when guys get all the signs right, don't get doubled off on easy fly balls, don't call the announcer booth to complain during the games, don't complain that fans boo them too much, take a few walks during a game and don't issue any...

If the Cubs get slaughtered by the Sox and play like .350 ball in May, then I'd say Dusty still has a 50/50 chance of reasonable contract extension.  To me this is the underlying problem with Hendry and why the Cubs should have cleaned house totally,  axed McPhail, Hendry and Baker, is that he puts these ridiculous loyalties over winning.  A huge conflict of interest from a fan's perspective as everyone gets rich, the team makes gobs of cash and nowhere do we have any kind of plan for playing winning baseball.

The old school scout types are a very prejudice bunch and they'll cut off their nose to just prove that no one can tel them how to do anything, especially people who have never played the game...The Cubs have embraced this closed minded approach for building a team and it leaves them with zero flexibility when the wheels start falling off....

Anyway, the only way I see Dusty not coming back is if he is contacted by another club and has a lock on another job in media market with far less scrutiny...It will be Dusty's choice as I think Hendry is already committed to making him an offer.

by DudeVf1 on May 15, 2006 3:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Pray the Mariners continue
to blow

by Santos Sorrow on May 15, 2006 5:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I was unfortunately at the game...
The few people remaining in our section started taking bets the last few innings, over/under on number of pitches the Cubs would see per inning. I started with 10 pitches in the seventh, Cubs saw 9. I said 12 in the eigth, Murton was leading off, Cubs saw 8. In the ninth I said 15, you know top of the order, 5 f**** pitches. FIVE!!

Cubs fans, it's not looking good. I give it another week of this kind of play and Dusty will be gone. It's not going to help the team, and I'm actually advocating firing him just because it's actually doing something. One more week of this and the season is lost....then it can actually be fun to watch the Cubs just implode....we can actually see how bad they can really be.  

"Harlem Furniture......You'll like our style!"

by Imtrejo on May 14, 2006 6:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Mark needs a haircut.
Oh, right, the game.

I have to agree with everyone else that says it looks like this team has cashed it in. I mean, I knew we had a few impatient hitters in our lineup, but nothing like I've seen the last two weeks, and especially today. Anyone who's taken Intro to Hitting should know not to flail at anything that looks like it could end up in the strike zone, and that's what these guys are doing.

I know they can't possibly "enjoy" losing, but that doesn't mean they're all giving 110% all the time.

But on that note, I've gotta give credit to A-Ram for that diving stop he made in the 7th. Nice work, Aramis.

--Tim http://fridayafternoonintheuniverse.blogspot.com

by elscorcho0682 on May 14, 2006 5:21 PM CDT   0 recs

Who's good with Photoshop ?
Time for a major distraction. Let's see some shots of Mark with somme creative hairdos, ala Matt Murton, Jose Cardenal et al.

by slide on May 14, 2006 5:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Now THAT...
... sounds like fun!

by Al on May 14, 2006 7:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll get right on that.
I could use the distraction after today.
"Respect the game above all else." - Ryne Sandberg, July 31, 2005, Cooperstown, NY

by Tom on May 14, 2006 8:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Mark Murton
Al . . . I popped Matt Murton's mop onto Mark. (Any alliteration, anyone?)
I e-mailed it to you - don't know any other way to get it posted.
"Respect the game above all else." - Ryne Sandberg, July 31, 2005, Cooperstown, NY

by Tom on May 14, 2006 9:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You
morphed Matt Murton's mop with Mark's mug.

I don't think "morph" is the right word, but whatever. Alliteration station.

--Tim http://fridayafternoonintheuniverse.blogspot.com

by elscorcho0682 on May 14, 2006 9:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

not photoshop
It could be worse.  Mark could look like any of these guys!

My favourite is Rick Reuschel holding a beer ...

This is from the wonderful (although not updated nearly enough -- hope you're reading Diana) Chicago Cubs Photos blog.

HaHa! Na, you're all right! -- Flexo

by kjk on May 14, 2006 8:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe a trim on those sideburns
but no haircut.  Of course, my own hair extends past my shoulders, after years of keeping it buzzed at a 2.

I stopped watching the game after Williamson's display of control.

"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" -Homer J. Simpson

by Whitebacon on May 14, 2006 5:23 PM CDT   0 recs

I agree...
maybe only a trim.  I need a trim too.
Cubbie Blue will always sPaRkLe in my eyes, but please stop losing. PLEASE!

by sparkles721 on May 14, 2006 10:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

About Rich Hill...
is it possible that the difference in performance between AAA and the majors has more to do with Rothschild's influence? For years now, the Cubs staff has rung up extremely high pitch counts, strikout totals, and walk rates from nibbling at the corners. Every single young pitcher he's groomed has had problems with walks. Hill is no exception. Guzman is no exception. Actually, the only guys on the staff that don't walk too many are Maddux, who is his own pitching coach, and Z who is stubborn enough to ignore Rothschild.

Can Rothschild - clearly he doesn't understand the value of a walk to the other team.

The Cubs better shine 'fore twenty-oh-nine!

by shawndgoldman on May 14, 2006 5:24 PM CDT   0 recs

and even Z...
has walked too many this season. His career walk rate is acceptible. Maybe his clamer demeanor has led to him listening to the coaches more, which i think in this case would be a bad thing.
The Cubs better shine 'fore twenty-oh-nine!

by shawndgoldman on May 14, 2006 5:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree with...
... getting rid of Rothschild.

But seriously -- why is it that Hill can throw strikeouts at AAA, and then come to the majors with presumably the same repertoire, and walk five in five innings?

That can't be Rothschild. It has to be the way hitters approach him at the different levels.

by Al on May 14, 2006 5:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

or
the way he approaches them.

he's fine when he challenges hitters. he just can't bring himself to do it. same with guzman. they may not be roger clemens, but they're servicable pitchers if they throw strikes.

i don't know if rothschild tells them to nibble. but he pretty clearly isn't telling them not to, and hasn't been for years. and dusty hasn't been holding him accountable for it for years.

toss the whole shooting match into the river. none of them has done anything to merit saving them.

1060west -- sans libert? de bl?mer, il n'est point d'?loge flatteur.

by gaius marius on May 15, 2006 8:54 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Guzman
hasn't been nibbling, he's waaaay outta the zone.

by CubFaninNY on May 14, 2006 5:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Relief pitcher
I think Hill would be a really good relief pitcher (joining Will Ohman and Bob Howry), with the control he has and a 94-95 mph fastball to boot.  But you have to be really special to survive starting your rookie season and have no run support from your teammates.
...right downtown and PRINT IT!!!

by CliffX on May 14, 2006 6:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The reason why Rich Hill
 Will never be good in the Majors is, every pitch is up in the strike zone. Everything. Unlike Marshall who uses his size and gets on top of the ball and works down in the zone, Hill is the opposite and works up in the zone. That equates instant failure in this league.

 I've seen enough of Hill to agree with Al that he never will be any good in this league. He just doesn't seem to get it. I'm sure somewhere along the way, a Pitching Coach has worked with him to get the ball down, cuz you just can't be successful in this league consistently working up in the zone, with every pitch.

by escapegoat on May 15, 2006 3:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

How about this lineup?
What about moving Murton to leadoff?  He has one of the better eyes on the team, and one of the best OBA.  I'd say bring up Pie to play over Jones, but Jones numbers don't look too bad compared to the rest of the team.  I wouldn't mind seeing Pie over Pierre, but I don't imagine management has those kind of cojones.

LF - Murton
SS - Cedeno
2B - Walker
3B - Ramirez
C  - Barrett
RF - Jones
2B - Theriot
CF - Pierre

then if Pierre continues to suck, bring up Pie, bat him 7th, Theriot drop to 8th.

by John916 on May 14, 2006 5:30 PM CDT   0 recs

"I don't imagine management"
"has those kind of cojones"

You got that right. Dusty's excuse would be that Pierre is faster than Opie.

But if Pierre can't get on base, his speed means NOTHING...

--Tim http://fridayafternoonintheuniverse.blogspot.com

by elscorcho0682 on May 14, 2006 5:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

EXACTLY!
Old baseball maxim -- you can't steal first base.

I don't understand why Baker doesn't get this. The weirdest part of the "aggressive" stuff that he and Matthews and Clines put out is this:

Look at the playing records of those three. Clines wasn't, really, but both Matthews and Baker were patient hitters, drawing a fair number of walks -- in fact, Matthews drew 103 walks for the 1984 Cubs, the first Cub to draw over 100 in a very long time.

Why they were like this as players but not as coaches/managers is a mystery.

by Al on May 14, 2006 5:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Even if he does...
Get on base like he did yesterday, Baker will lay down a sac bunt with none out and the #2 hitter up and a catcher who couldn't throw out Don Zimmer stealing 2nd behind the plate.  

I am still pissed about that...

Eamus Ursuli!

by WGNstatic on May 14, 2006 8:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

In regard to that...
... I well remember this game, about a week before Don Baylor was fired in 2002.

Look at this play-by-play from that game:

CUBS 1ST: Patterson doubled to right; Stynes out on a sacrifice
bunt (pitcher to first) [Patterson to third]; Sosa lined to shortstop; McGriff walked; Alou struck out; 0 R, 1 H, 0 E, 2 LOB.  Reds 0, Cubs 0.

Think about that again. Your leadoff hitter doubles, and you bunt? With nobody out in the first inning of a scoreless game? (The Cubs eventually lost, FWIW.)

It was as if Baylor was daring MacPhail (then the GM) to fire him. He obliged.

by Al on May 15, 2006 4:28 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Actually.....
I don't have a problem with that.

LaRussa has done this for years.  It seems like it has worked out well for him.

by timeforachange on May 15, 2006 7:51 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

not in the first
even with the offense of the little sisters of the poor, you just don't manufacture in the first. you hit.
1060west -- sans libert? de bl?mer, il n'est point d'?loge flatteur.

by gaius marius on May 15, 2006 8:56 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Disagree....
If you are in the AL, yes, you hit.  In the NL, IMO, you take the run.

I will never criticize the manager for making a move like this.  LaRussa has done this his whole career.  I'll take his record...

by timeforachange on May 15, 2006 9:04 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't forget the Giants game
where Cedeno got on leading off, stole second and then Pierre bunted him over to 3rd.
Replace the ivy with hemlock

by jc60625 on May 15, 2006 8:56 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

then what
do they do with Pierre?

by CubFaninNY on May 14, 2006 5:38 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hopefully they would
be able to make a decent trade for Pierre by then.
--Tim http://fridayafternoonintheuniverse.blogspot.com

by elscorcho0682 on May 14, 2006 5:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I gotta tell ya,
I have been quietly watching and reading BCB with religious ferver since day one.  I've been tempted on many occassions to respond to Gaius' predictions of gloom and doom as well as Al's unfettered optimism not to mention the often times clever banter that goes on in each game thread.  I've held back because I'm no where near the baseball expert that so many of BCB's readers are.  I'm just a fan and I've tried in times past to explain just what the Cubs are in the cultural ethos of a Chicago native growing up in the fifties but, alas, with only minimal success.

That said, I have got to put my two-cents worth into this abysmal season.

A big shakeup is necessary.  Even if it is just the fates that are causing things to be out of whack, the only way to change things is to, by God, change things.

Baker and the entire coaching staff must be let go. They'll all land on their feet somewhere else and maybe even go on to great successes.

Our heretofore untouchables, Ramirez, Wood, Prior, and yes, even Lee have got to be put on the block.  It is, I'm afraid, time to start over.

Does Jim Hendry need to go.  Perhaps, but having just been given a contract extention I'm afraid he'll be around for a while longer.

Al, it's time to cash-in.  This team will need a miracle of parting of the Red Sea magnitude in order to make something respectable out of this season.  It's time to watch the kids develop (or not develop--whatever the case may be) and try to enjoy the team for the love of baseball.

I'll be with them to the bitter end, but I've got to accept the reality that our boys have presented to us.  Even though hope springs eternal, sometimes ya just gotta get over it!

by Luigi on May 14, 2006 5:33 PM CDT   0 recs

Pessimists proven right
If I'm not mistaken, Gaius' "doom and gloom" predictions have been proven exactly right!  

The man is, if nothing else, a realist - and he wasn't the only one who saw the handwriting on the wall before the regular season ever got under way I might add.  

The upside to this miserable season is that Baker and his lackey coaching staff can and probably will be fired before the season is through - too bad Hendry already received his extension, because a complete shake-up of management is warranted.

by peorianorthsidereport on May 14, 2006 6:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Re Gaius...
"even a blind squirrel..."

you know the rest

by jazzman56 on May 14, 2006 6:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Give me break
he's been pretty much dead on since day one. Even during the hot start he stood by his opinion. You don't have to like it, but don't act like he just got lucky.
"Aw, how could he lose the ball in the sun, he's from Mexico!"--Harry Caray

by cubbiejulie on May 14, 2006 6:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Good for you!
n/t

by Santos Sorrow on May 14, 2006 6:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Give *me* a break
For every one thing he was right about I can name five things that he was dead wrong about.

I never said anything about luck.  If you are out there spouting off your opinions all day every day, you are bound to be right once in awhile.

by jazzman56 on May 14, 2006 6:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

OK, then, Jazzman ...
Name them. Name those five things Giaus was wrong about.

Look, BCB is derided as a "Pollyanna" site by more hard-nosed Cubs blogs where the Gaiuses of Cubs Nation are the norm and not the exception. I've always thought that that was unfair, because the opinions here really do run the spectrum from bright-eyed optimism to gloom-and-doom. But Gaius has always been one contributor who backs up his statements with well-reasoned and informed arguments -- and yet for all that he still gets bashed a lot by the BCB optimists, unfairly in my opinion.

No, he isn't right all of the time. But that "blind squirrel" crack of yours was off-base.

Luck is the residue of design. -- Branch Rickey

by Gregory on May 15, 2006 4:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

no
that is a term best suited for the cubs and success.  Lucking your way into the postseason every 5 years or so is finding a nut.  Calling this team bad in november, december, january was being realistic.  Saying a team/franchise that repeatedly looks lie it quits at the first sign of adversity is not going to come back is being realistic.  Saying these bums don't deserve our money is realistic.  If I had the privelege to go to almost every game like Al does maybe I would be more optimistic, get through the losing better, but I don't, so my bond with them is purely in the win/loss column 90% of each season. There is little to no enjoyment watching/hearing a team lose this badly on television/radio like this.  Just like watching the Bulls after Jordan left, wandering around the court like idiots not able to get the most fundamental tasks accomplished.  It's insluting to put this on televion and I will be emabarassed to say "that's my team" if they play like this on national television.  There is no excuse for this.  Show some pride, top to bottom, Baker to Bynum.

Keep the hair Mark, chicks dig long hair.  For a while.

by mike bornemann on May 14, 2006 7:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Haircut
Be careful Al, if you make the kid get a haircut tommorrow and the Cubs win the next game we will demand that the kid gets a haircut everyday till they lose.

by jimhickman on May 14, 2006 5:53 PM CDT   0 recs

So THAT'S why the Cubs are losing!
Al, get that kid to a barber, fast!
--Tim http://fridayafternoonintheuniverse.blogspot.com

by elscorcho0682 on May 14, 2006 5:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

At least
it is not easy to find who to blame. Pretty much everyone. But I do agree, Rothschild, Clines and Sarg have to go. This team as soon as Dusty arrived never works a count. How in the heck can you give up 10 walks, and get one  back. And why call up Theriot, and he sits and sits when a team is losing 14 of 16. Tell me Dusty he could do worse than your boy Nefi. Rusch, Nova, Harriston,  Freddie gone. Send Hill back again, This team is close if not there to being gone.
Where is Carmen Fanzone?

by Johnny Callison was a Cub on May 14, 2006 6:14 PM CDT   0 recs

Send Hill back?
why? the man has yet to pitch with a lead, and is getting better. Besides, who pitches instead, GUZMAN?

by CubFaninNY on May 14, 2006 6:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

exactly
the season's over. find out what he can do. get rid of the coaching staff -- maybe it'll help him and guzman.
1060west -- sans libert? de bl?mer, il n'est point d'?loge flatteur.

by gaius marius on May 15, 2006 9:00 AM CDT