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Open Thread: NLDS Game #3 -- Cubs vs. Diamondbacks, Saturday 10/6, 5:00 CT

Three words:

Must. Win. Today.

There are four teams that have come back from a 0-2 deficit to win a Division Series. One of them was the 1995 Mariners, who finished the regular season with a 17-5 run to win the AL West, then came back against the Yankees after losing the first two games -- on the road. Their manager? Lou Piniella. 1995 was also the only season, before this year, where all four Division Series started 2-0.

Yes, I am well aware that was twelve years ago, and history isn't necessarily a predictor. But if anyone will have his team prepared to win the next three games -- and this Cub team has, as you know, tended to be a very streaky team -- it's Lou.

 Game 3 Starting Pitchers
Rich Hill
 R. Hill
Cubs
vs. Livan Hernandez
 L. Hernandez
D'backs
11-8 W-L 11-11
3.92 ERA 4.93
183 SO 90
63 BB 79
27 HR 34
vs. Ari -- vs. Cubs
A lot of you are going to bitch about Jason Kendall starting today, especially since Geovany Soto has hit the only Cub HR in the series. (Incidentally, there has been only one other rookie Cub who has homered in a postseason game -- Frank Demaree, who homered in game 4 of the 1932 World Series.) Lou, however, is a big believer in matchups. Kendall is 11-for-31 (.355/.394/.452) lifetime vs. Hernandez. There's the reason. Other current Cubs have hit him, too: Cliff Floyd, 14-for-41 (.341/.429/.561), 3 doubles, 2 HR; Aramis Ramirez, 10-for-26 (.385/.385/.962), 3 doubles, 4 HR, and Mark DeRosa, 5-for-14 (.357/.400/.500), 2 doubles. Hernandez is 4-3, 2.92 at Wrigley Field in his career, but has not pitched there since May 16, 2006, when the Cubs beat him 4-0 in one of the seven games they won that month. Hernandez was second in the majors (to Woody Williams) in HR allowed this season with 34 -- so maybe, just maybe, the Cubs can get their power bats going on what is going to be a summerlike early evening, with the gametime temperature likely to be near 80 degrees with the wind blowing out.

Rich Hill faced the Diamondbacks on July 21 at Wrigley Field, gave them only one earned run in six innings, and got a no-decision; the Cubs lost that game when Bob Howry allowed a deciding HR to Stephen Drew. Hill threw great against the Reds a week ago in Cincinnati, giving them only one hit in six shutout innings. He has held all current D'backs to a .220 average in his career (9-for-41); the only current D'back who has homered off him is Eric Byrnes. Tonight, Hill becomes the 8th lefthander to start a postseason game for the Cubs (Ted Lilly, 2007; Steve Trout, 1984; Ray Prim, 1945; Larry French, 1935; Hippo Vaughn, 1918; Lefty Tyler, 1918; and Jack Pfiester, 1906-07-08, are the others).

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2006 version)

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Please,
play hard today!
I would not fight Jason Kendall.

by TCobb1911 on Oct 6, 2007 11:47 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How 'bout...
...play smart today.

DmL

by dmlichte on Oct 6, 2007 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How's this: It AN'T OVER, till its OVER
Berra, about baseball...baseball can turn on an error, fan interference, walk, single, inning, game.....
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Oct 6, 2007 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's do this! Go Cubs!
n/t
Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on Oct 6, 2007 11:49 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Go Cubs Go
So the season comes down to this, at least today.

I just want to see a win today. Good old fashion Cubs beat down and make them play tomorrow.

Just stay classy Cubs Fans!!!

6-01-2007 the Cubs begin to rise. They will never look back.

by Scott G F on Oct 6, 2007 11:52 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

they need to show some heart today
they better not look like they dont care like they did in Arizona
Dinosaurs? "Didn't exist. You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them." -Carl Everett

by NDcubsfan on Oct 6, 2007 11:52 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Please stop
Please stop this stupid they don't care nonsense.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Oct 6, 2007 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i didn' say they didn't
i said it looked like they didn't. read the whole post next time
Dinosaurs? "Didn't exist. You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them." -Carl Everett

by NDcubsfan on Oct 6, 2007 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wanna
sing go cubs go today guys lets do this
Pie,Soto,Gallagher, Samardzija... its gonna be a bright future

by easyaspie on Oct 6, 2007 11:52 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We're in good company.
Lots of stats have been thrown out about the ability of teams who are down 0-2 in the series to come back. We'll see how that history plays out this weekend I'm sure--the Cubs are only 1 of 4 teams who face the same 2 game deficit--the Yankees, Phillies and Angels all have to win their next game to keep alive.

Why don't we show them all how it's done..?

Go Cubs!

by lapetino on Oct 6, 2007 11:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Law of averages says....
that at least one of the 4 teams that are down 0-2 should come back and win their respective series......why not us?

by LuisSalazar on Oct 6, 2007 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

give em hell
thats all i can say.
It WILL Happen!!!

by Chanman25 on Oct 6, 2007 11:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

let get this win
then we are only down one!! come on guys!!!
WhErE's My CuBs?!?!

by tbizzle83 on Oct 6, 2007 11:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you!
Let's go Cubbies!

by Ryno72 on Oct 6, 2007 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's Go Get 'Em
Hopefully, a change of scenery and a return home will be just what the Cubs need to get grounded and focused.

The first two games seemed like they didn't really even exist - with the latenight starts and the resulting obscurity (and I'm talking to you, TBS), it's no wonder they didn't seem to show up.  Games might as well have been in the twilight zone.

Time to wake up and lock in.

¡BLANCO!

by 08Cubs on Oct 6, 2007 11:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's NO excuse
And the players would agree.
In obscurity? Both games were sold out, or close to it. (In reality, 48K is too big of a ballpark for the market)

The games were on national TV. The games were on national radio. It's YOUR perception these games were obscure, if you live in the CST or EST.  Staying up late to watch baseball might strike you as unusual. These games ran in prime time in two other time zones.

What about the era when TV was scarce? As late at the 1970's, many teams didn't televise but a handful of games, most of them on the road. (The Chicago market was one of the major exceptions)
Did the players 'not show up' in that era? For example, the Dodgers, until the 1980s -- NEVER televised home games.

And, it appears the print media/radio talk shows have had they say about what happened in Arizona Played in obscurity? Put the Devil Rays in that category, not the Cubs.

The Cubs are far from being ignored. There's plenty of attention -- unfortunately, it's for all the wrong reasons.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Oct 6, 2007 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's okay, guys.
Rich Hill has ice water in his veins. He's like Godzilla, except Godzilla can't throw a curveball like Rich Hill can. Rich Hill once killed a man in Reno, just to watch him die. We're gonna win this one.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Oct 6, 2007 12:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he's
probably drinking coffee and smoking big cigars!
It WILL Happen!!!

by Chanman25 on Oct 6, 2007 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's a good thing the el doesn't have a whistle
I'd hate to see him hang his head and cry.
AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike on Oct 6, 2007 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rich Hill is mighty.
You know how they ask, if a tree falls in the forest, and nobody is there to hear it, does it make a sound?

Well, Rich Hill knows that it does.  Because every time a tree falls, he is there.  And he hears.

Before each game, please remember to feed the bats.

by Cool Hand on Oct 6, 2007 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ward
Too bad Lou can't find a way to get him into the lineup.

By the way, who will be our long man if we need him?

It's not to late to go to Soto.

by tharr on Oct 6, 2007 12:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

doesnt matter
because I HOPE we DON'T have to use a long man
It WILL Happen!!!

by Chanman25 on Oct 6, 2007 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hoped
we wouldn't be down 0-2. Sometimes our hopes just don't happen.
It's not to late to go to Soto.

by tharr on Oct 6, 2007 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was very happy to hear
John "my wife finds me disgusting" Kruk pick the Phillies as the one team that he thought as the most likely of all the 0-2 teams to come back.  It seems that all the experts have moved off the Cubs (this Kruk comment is typical of them).

I like these contra-indicators.  The Cubs came into the NLCS as a heavy favorite.  Now no one likes them.  Good.

Time to MAN UP Cubs and stomp the Snakes.  Let's get 'em today!!  Score early and often.

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Oct 6, 2007 12:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Phillies?
Kruk's comments on this issue are crazy.  Of all of the teams, the Phillies are in the deepest hole.  In the other three the home team basically held serve.  Something which is not unexpected.  In the case of the Phillies, the Visitors won both games and are going home for two at a park with a tremendous Home Field Advantage for the home team.  The team most likely to get swept is the Phillies.  

As for the rest, I think that the Yankees have the best chance to win 3 in a row.   They have had pretty good success against the Indians this season and have a good deal of experience in the post season.   I think that the Cubs have the second best chance, but its mostly a puncher's chance if the offense heats up a great deal very quickly.  With the singular exception of Lilly, the Cub pitching has been very good and should continue to be very good for the rest of the series.  As the Cubs HAVE to win three, I would also be inclined to "save" Zambrano for a game 5 rematch against Webb.  I would have Marquis start but I would also have some of my Bull Pen pitchers warming up before the start of the game and keep him on a very tight leash.

by frustratedfan on Oct 6, 2007 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kruk is the same ding dong that said
in early September .. "Shame on the Cubs for allowing the Cards to sneak back into the race."

What astute baseball analytical genius. As if the Cubs played the Red Turds 7 days a week.

And while the Cubs destroyed STL the rest of the month, I wonder what ol' Kruky was doing. Turning his wife off, I assume.

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Oct 6, 2007 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, Kruk also said in early July
that the Cubs would never catch the Brewers.  The man has great baseball instincts.  ;-)
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Oct 6, 2007 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can we call this one
a "must-win" game?

I think so.

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh77 on Oct 6, 2007 12:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is that marathon
today or tomorrow? My friend told me about it but he wasn't sure what day it was. Is that going to affect today's traffic to the ballgame?

by china423 on Oct 6, 2007 12:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

on Sunday
90 and Sunny. Ouch...

It will be a mess on the northside..

Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Oct 6, 2007 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The marathon...
... is tomorrow. Runners will still be going within four blocks of the ballpark (corner of Addison & Broadway) when people are starting to arrive for the game.

Why MLB and TBS insisted on the noon start time, with thousands of people and thousands of spectators clogging north side streets at the same time, is absolutely beyond me. It's idiotic. The race director was quoted as saying "it won't be a problem."

Yes, it will be. If you're going to the game tomorrow, I cannot emphasize this enough, do not attempt to drive. You'll get caught in horrendous traffic jams.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Oct 6, 2007 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well hopefully
there is a game tomorrow
It WILL Happen!!!

by Chanman25 on Oct 6, 2007 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Horrendous Traffic Jams
What a great problem to have -- it means we'll be playing tomorrow !!!!!

GO CUBS GO !!!!

If It Takes Forever ....

by wrigley1 on Oct 6, 2007 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.
Let's hope this IS a problem.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Oct 6, 2007 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What might be weird
is that there is march in honor of Matthew Shepard that is scheduled to go past the ballpark around the time the game ends. Let's hope the fans don't create any ugliness if they run into this.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Oct 6, 2007 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

one word
i'm gonna sum up the season and the playoff run were about to go on. with teary eyes i say "I Believe!"
Here comes the nasty leftie to shut it down in the 9th......Clay Rapada!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Oct 6, 2007 1:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Must win,
have to win, got to win, need to win, should win, please win, better win. You can say all those things today and they're all true or the season is over. That's a lot of pressure and the quotes I've seen from Lou are pretty loose and matter of fact. I wish I could be in the park this afternoon because if there is ever a chance a teams fans could will a team to a victory this is the right place, the right stadium and the right fans. Make the Dbacks uncomfortable and get this thing started. I can't wait.
This is Harry Carray, goodbye from Wrigley Field and So Long Everybody.

by mrcubsfan on Oct 6, 2007 1:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Today is the day
Today is the day we start hitting again.
Today is the day we regain our confidence.
Today is the day we win the first of the rest.
TODAY IS THE DAY IT BEGINS AGAIN!

WE BELIEVE!

This is our time. THIS IS OUR YEAR!

by drewishdrewid on Oct 6, 2007 1:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

key for todays game IMO...
Cubs need an early spark, a early run, a great defensive play, a stolen base, a big strikeout by Hill. Something to get a good vibe going early and make Wrigley rock and get old Mo moving this direction!!
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Oct 6, 2007 1:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A first-pitch Soriano HR would be awesome
but deep down I just hope he doesn't strikeout.  That would get me going after his first at-bat.

by IllinoisCubs on Oct 6, 2007 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I pray that Rich follows in the footsteps of
Jack Pfiester, who played on two World Championship teams and won one World Series game ('07 Game 2 3-1 over the Tigers) for the Cubs.

G O  C U B S ! ! ! !

by JFCubFan on Oct 6, 2007 1:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey Al,
Has any NL team come back from 0-2 in NLDS series?
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Oct 6, 2007 1:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nope...
... so the Cubs can be the first!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Oct 6, 2007 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meant to post this earlier.
Take a look at the giant TBS sign on the right field padding.

Ridiculous. As if we don't know where to find the game on TV?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Oct 6, 2007 1:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ridiculous indeed
You would have to be watching to even see this !!!

Shouldn't it be outside the stadium

by coral on Oct 6, 2007 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm shocked it's not a sign for
Frank TV.  Since 7 out of 8 teams in the play-offs will end up with bad memories, do you think TBS is being smart running those annoying spots 100 times in every game?  

I mean the spots are funny once or twice, but to see the same 5 inpersonations hundreds of times just associtates Frank TV with lousy memories for 7 teams' fans.

Hopefully it will be for D'back fans and not Cub fans as I hope we have to put up with this crap for three more games and the NLCS after that!

Let's go get 'em, Cubs!!!

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Oct 6, 2007 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's too bad the Cubs won't sweep the Dbcks
in three and spare us 2 less games of FrankTV commericals. As it is, we've got 3 more games worth of FTV commercials.

by JFCubFan on Oct 6, 2007 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You've got questions, I have answers.
  1. The signage IS for the TV viewer. I'm sure the CF camera will capture that as much as possible. I'm sure Fox is hoping for 2 games in Chicago. (As is TBS)
  2. We are hard-core. We will find the games. However, as hard as many will find it hard to believe, not everybody lives and dies with baseball. (Shocking!!) Therefore, this signage -- is aimed at the casual viewer. For today's possible elimination game (and the others)thousands may be tuning in for the very first time. I'd wager these people probably struggled to figure out TBS had the games to begin with. And then, if you want to capture viewers for the Series -- "hey, the games move to Fox." You literally have to spell it out for people. I'm not saying these viewers are stupid -- they are just not really paying attention. This isn't that important to them, it's just another baseball game.
  3. Repetition. That works in advertising, and promotion. Many of us are watching every game on TBS. Guess what? Us hardcore are in the minority. Therefore we are going to see the promos for "Frank TV" waaaaaaay more times than the average viewer. TBS (and any other advertiser) knows that many 'impressions' have to be left before a message sinks in.
Working in radio, at times I am aghast at the people who cannot remember what stations they listen to, are unable to recall call letters or slogans when they are asked to write them down. The listeners/viewers inability to recall what they are watching or listening to means a loss of money, and sometimes jobs, in the broadcast industry.

The spots are repetitive to you and I, but the investment that TBS/Fox makes in the games (and the ability to lure viewers to additional programming) makes these messages crucial.

Seems like overkill? That's the point.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Oct 6, 2007 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A case to be made for optimism.....
As depressing as the last 2 games have been, if you want to re-live some more depressing times, just go back and watch games 5-7 of the 2003 NLCS.....which for some reason I did over the last 36 hrs....not all of it, but I did rewatch the entire game 6.....THAT's about as depressing as it can get to be a Cubs fan.  However, watching that and thinking back to the postseasons of the last 15 or so years, interestingly I found a silver lining in this series.  

Baseball is a game of averages and streakiness....and if so, there is no reason that this team cannot come back from down 2...tough, yes it will be, but here's  few thoughts as to why this team can come back.....

-the very same players that have caused us much frustration (Lee, Ramirez, Soriano) with their poor plate attack, are the same players that in the past have been just as streaky in previous offseasons. In 2003, prior to game 5 of the NLCS, Ramirez had been lights out for the Cubs.....however, was essentially absent the rest of the way.  Also, prior to game 6, Derrek Lee had been atrocious for the Marlins.....but who was it that hit the crucial base hit to give the Marlins the 4-3 lead in that dreaded game 6?..that's right Lee.   If history is on our side, all of these guys should collectively escape their horrid pace and break out tonight and through the rest of this series anyway....

-regarding the concern of Webb being a dominator of the Cubs a second time, history's really not convincingly on his side.  Growing up, it was common for the aces to completely dominate in the entire offseason (Jack Morris, Saberhagen, Gooden and the likes)...you don't see that quite as often now.  Not saying Webb would flop if given the second chance, however, again in 2003 look at Josh Beckett, who was lit pretty well in game 1, but came back in game 5 and 7 to be lights out.....or Wood/Prior who were so dominant early only to get hit pretty hard eventually.  There are examples both ways on this one and probably just as much evidence to suggest Webb may be just as dominant as he was the first time around, but I can't believe he will be that dominant the second time around.  I fully believe Lilly to be much better the second time around as well.......

-breaks, breaks, breaks.  The Cubs capitalized on the breaks in 2003 in games 2,3,4, but the Marlins did so in games 1,6, 7.   The team that takes advantage of the other teams mistakes and makes the most of the breaks given to them usually wins.....we've seen that in BOTH games this offseason.  Even in game 2, the Cubs had a chance to tie that game  in the ninth after being given the breaks (Ojeda's error) yet our fastball hitters both struck out on fastballs right down the plate.    This has got to change and can change in a heartbeat.

That 2003 series was definitely more depressing than this one.....and is history that probably shouldn't be revisited....however, it was a good reminder to me of a mixed bunch of guys (the Marlins) with an old school manager (like Lou) who didn't quit at all, kept their cool and prevailed.  This team is similar to that team with a good mix....It's gotta start tonight with one game at a time....I've not lost complete confidence yet...but its' gotta start now.

Let's get em!

by LuisSalazar on Oct 6, 2007 1:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lou is Shrewd
He knew this could go three games or five.

We could win the next 3 games.

Our bats must wake up of course.  Z will HAVE to be excellent tomorrow. I like putting that kind of pressure on him to contain himself.  He needs it.  And we know Lily can produce after 3 days rest.

For all those who complain about 3 days rest - get over it.  That is the way it used to be and many pitchers felt they were better for it.  Fergie Jenkins made 50 starts one year for Christ's Sake.

And Kendall is good for Hill.  

Let us all pray to the Hitting Gods......

by coral on Oct 6, 2007 2:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

To quote an awful song...
"Don't stop believing.  Hold on to that feeling..."

Do not get swept and make a series of it.

Have fun!

by DrCrawdad on Oct 6, 2007 2:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What should I do
I live a mile north of Wrigley and I dont have a ticket to the game.(and Im not even gonna try 500 for standing room, no thanks)
Im debating if I should watch the game from my apt alone and catch very little detail about the game or go outside Wrigley and soak up the environment but miss most of the game.
We will see some beautiful things come the fall.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Oct 6, 2007 2:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

im going to a bar in wrigleyville with friends.
it should be good and rowdy down there.
AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike on Oct 6, 2007 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go for the environment
You can always catch the highlights later on the same medium you would have seen them in: TV.  Do you plan on always living close to Wrigley?  This might the only time it will be so easy for you to catch this.

by IllinoisCubs on Oct 6, 2007 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My bro-in-law made it to
Wrigleyville around 11:30 today. He said you could barely even walk the streets then. Just packed. I don't know about you, but I would aim for a Cubs friendly bar a little further from Wrigley. Nothing makes me nauseous more than someone elses sticky sweaty arm touching mine when I am packed into a bar like a sardine.  
fly your W flag Cubs fans!

by love the ivy on Oct 6, 2007 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

head to wrigleyville.....
watching alone is bad karma.... :)
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Oct 6, 2007 2:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is anyone
happy that A-Rod is pulling another one of his choke-jobs?
Dinosaurs? "Didn't exist. You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them." -Carl Everett

by NDcubsfan on Oct 6, 2007 2:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm happy the Yankees are losing.
On the other hand... I honestly like A-Rod. And listening to people talk about A-Rod choking... makes me want to scream. Agh.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Oct 6, 2007 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah
i was asking about that because of his potentially opting out of his contract and going to you know who
Dinosaurs? "Didn't exist. You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them." -Carl Everett

by NDcubsfan on Oct 6, 2007 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would be nice
to only have a 9-year-dry spell after winning a World Series, wouldn't it? (If the Tribe prevails)

Shouldn't we call for the "Curse of A-Rod?" Of course not. Nobody will. But the damn goat will always be there. Or idiots like Dick Stockton will invent new curses, or rookie wire service writers will say "....If the Cubs can't come back, the Curse of the Billy Goat will prevail."

Actual AP copy from Friday, (a game recap) if you didn't see my earlier post. Wire services are now treating a 'legend' as a 'fact.'

Journalism? Who Cares?

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Oct 6, 2007 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the Cubs continue to .....
....swing at pitchers pitches and if Lee and Ramirez continue to hit the ball 2,000 feet, today will be the last game of the season.

 They must be patient and make Livian work and square up the ball, kinda like how the DBacks approach their ab's. If not, then this will be the most futile playoff performance by a playoffs team, ever.

by lemon20pie on Oct 6, 2007 2:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hit the ball 2,000 feet?
what does that mean?
Dinosaurs? "Didn't exist. You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them." -Carl Everett

by NDcubsfan on Oct 6, 2007 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
I hope they hit the ball 2000 ft. that would be great!  Go Cubs!
The Cubs Are On Their Way!!

by DenverCub on Oct 6, 2007 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would love them too, but
i still don't understand what he was saying about 2,000 foot hits as the reason today will be the last game of the season
Dinosaurs? "Didn't exist. You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them." -Carl Everett

by NDcubsfan on Oct 6, 2007 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What it means is....
They're trying to hit monster home runs on every pitch.  More often than not, this leads to a strikeout.
Before each game, please remember to feed the bats.

by Cool Hand on Oct 6, 2007 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Instead of sitting at home for today's game
and being pissed off like the last two, I'm going with a friend to a bar to watch.

Hopefully that's what it takes for a Cubs win!

by nevermind on Oct 6, 2007 3:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm doing the same thing
it looks like.

phat

by phatass on Oct 6, 2007 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope
someone has pulled Soriano aside and said, "Alf my friend, just a heads up here buddy, but you're not going to see any more first-pitch fastballs the rest of the post-season. Choose your swings with prudence."
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Oct 6, 2007 3:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What the Cubs need
is a nice 8 run inning ala the Marlins in '03.   Play a great game today, fellas!!  GO CUBS GO!

by Def Kenny T on Oct 6, 2007 3:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

One at a time.
I keep saying that to myself.  Yet I can't imagine that there will not be a game 4 tomorrow.  I can't see past that, but why bother?

I have seen this team come back from so many tough errors or bad holes that they have dug for themselves.  This is another one of those holes.  I just beleive that we will see a strong effort and victory today.

Today they stop digging and climb out of the hole.  Every journey begins with a first step.

Game 3 is step one.  GO CUBS!!

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Oct 6, 2007 3:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lineup
LF Alfonso Soriano
SS Ryan Theriot
1B Derrek Lee
RF Cliff Floyd
3B Aramis Ramirez
2B Mark DeRosa
CF Jacque Jones
C Jason Kendall
P Rich Hill

by coral on Oct 6, 2007 3:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i dont like floyd at 4
i dont like floyd at all, really. he swings at virtually every slider thrown to him. i'd rather see Ward in right
Dinosaurs? "Didn't exist. You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them." -Carl Everett

by NDcubsfan on Oct 6, 2007 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Badgers lost...
...if the Cubs lose, I'm in suicide watch.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Oct 6, 2007 3:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i would say the same
but my favorite team, Notre Dame, doesn't play til later tonight and i fully expect them to go winless this year
Dinosaurs? "Didn't exist. You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them." -Carl Everett

by NDcubsfan on Oct 6, 2007 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I've mentioned this before
Shouldn't bring Wisconsin favorites into this discussion. I have a feeling that, oh, I don't know....many residents of Illinois are...fans of....ILLINOIS.

If you are a Packers fan, you'll probably get you want Sunday night, unfortunately.

I was hoping the trifecta wouldn't hit Chicagoland/and the state of Illinois this weekend . But, at least as of now -- we are guaranteed 1 out of 4.

I didn't attend the U of I, but I'm damn glad they are not the doormats of the Big 10.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Oct 6, 2007 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soto
Should be batting fifth, playing everyday and pitchers should stop shaking him off and put some faith in him. Looking at you, Lilly. The only place Kendall should be catching is in the bullpen.
Let's get this thing turned around. Win today, then you've got Z tomorrow and probably back to Arizona we go.
C'mon!

by rob9802 on Oct 6, 2007 3:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I was completely dejected
on Thursday night, but today I've got hope!  (Not sure why, but....)

Why not us?  Why not today?

GO CUBS GO!!!!

by deutschegirl on Oct 6, 2007 4:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just play for today.
Worry about tomorrow then. You know how good you can be and let that show today.

GO CUBS!!!

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Oct 6, 2007 4:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Going to miss it
I'm in Korea and saw game one on TV.  Game two wasn't on here and now I'm missing game three because I'm going to be away from the TV.

Please PLEASE Cubbies!  Do it!

Go get 'em, fellas!

by Mr Snrub on Oct 6, 2007 4:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Real good sign for the Cubbies
 So I'm sitting there, watching ASU plod their way through another 1st quarter against WSU, and just cracked open my first Sam Adams Octerberfest of the year, which is traditional for me this time every year and just smelled the succulant aroma it sends off to greet it's owner, when a knock on the door interrupts my heavenly routine.

 It's UPS. With a box. Hm. I don't remember buying anything recently. I sign and shut the door holding this box.  Shake. very light. Is it my birthday? No, not for another month.

 And what do I see when I lift the folds back but a Cub hat! THAT'S RIGHT!!! Ofcourse!! I had completely forgotten I had ordered a Cub had 1 month ago!!! ANd it just now comes today, of all days?? How had I forgotten I ordered a Cub hat? Oh that's right, that's about the time I started into Bears mode.

 Apparently it got lost and there's a note saying how sorry they are and to call a UPS CSR to find out more information. I've never been so happy to receive a package a month late.

 And it's a fitted hat. and it fits perfectly. Oh what a day. The Cubs will not lose today. It's fate.

by lemon20pie on Oct 6, 2007 4:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This is a good sign!
fly your W flag Cubs fans!

by love the ivy on Oct 6, 2007 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rage Against the Machine-
It has to start somewhere.
It has to start sometime.
What better place than here?
What better time than now?

All hell can't stop us now!

Go Get 'em Rich! You guys are home now, rake those DBacks over the coals!!!! I am fired up today! Let's go!

fly your W flag Cubs fans!

by love the ivy on Oct 6, 2007 4:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pregame
Frank Thomas is explaining how to bunt.

Ummm...what manager would have ever asked The Big Skirt to -- bunt?

Suddenly, Ripkin takes the bat from his hand and says...uh, nice form, but maybe this would work...."

Ripkin then completely shows a different way to bunt.

Nice 1-upmanship.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Oct 6, 2007 4:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

haha!!
what's the score of the georgia game?
It WILL Happen!!!

by Chanman25 on Oct 6, 2007 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cardiac Cubs Vol III Now On Sale
May we hear and see the greatest hits of the season on it!
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Oct 6, 2007 4:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bumped into a Cub fan in Wally world this AM ..
.. being a Chicago boy trapped in Tennessee right now, I found myself - wearing a Cubs T and my old Cub cap - being confronted by a woman and her 14 year old daughter with a pained look on her face.

"Are they gonna do it today? They gonna make it."

Frankly, I just looked at her and told her "Yes, absolutely. It's the Cardiac Cubs .. they're back home and they are going to keep it exciting to the end."

I'm ready for the real excitement. GO CUBS!

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Oct 6, 2007 4:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If we can win tonight
there is no reason we cant win the next two with z and lilly on the hill. i think our chances of coming back from 2-0 are as good as anybody's. As upset as i was on thursday i feel very confident about today. the cubs have bounced back from tough losses all year. the way they turned things around from june on speaks volumes about the intestinal fortitude of this team. this is it guys, go cubs go.
*diehard cubs fan from northern manitoba, canada

by hoppy91 on Oct 6, 2007 4:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Things Not To Do In Postseason
  • Not watch Frank TV
  • Not get any romantic tips from Avis
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Oct 6, 2007 5:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lets squash those
D-Bags tonight..
It WILL Happen!!!

by Chanman25 on Oct 6, 2007 5:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's hoping for the best
Go Cubs Go! Go Cubs Go!  Go Cubs Go!

I wonder if anyone on this board was watching the Cubs in that NYC bar in the village (4 years ago) during that postseason.  What fun was that (at least in the beginning).  What great people.  A real sense of  simpatico!

Let's go Cubs!

by jerseygirl on Oct 6, 2007 5:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm already having some freezing...
issues with TBS.  Anyone else experiencing that?

by JakeH on Oct 6, 2007 5:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I haven't noticed it yet
but it is probably coming
fly your W flag Cubs fans!

by love the ivy on Oct 6, 2007 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone in Chicago
What's the weather report?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Oct 6, 2007 5:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Praying for the miracle here ..
.. that the Cubs will hit smart, often and leave NO man behind!
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Oct 6, 2007 5:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

well
that's a problem.

by JakeH on Oct 6, 2007 5:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

only one run
damnit, only one run!
It WILL Happen!!!

by Chanman25 on Oct 6, 2007 5:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rally caps
I'm just going to start watching all Cubs games with my hat turned inside out.  We need a rally before it even starts.

by fngoat on Oct 6, 2007 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

huh
that sucks

by Yepsen on Oct 6, 2007 5:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ooooooo ... that's not good ..
1st pitch HR.

We must respond. I look forward to a SOriano response

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Oct 6, 2007 5:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF...
great start...come on!!!
You ARE freaking out MAN!

by crw89 on Oct 6, 2007 5:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

not good
but better now than in the 9th.
This is our time. THIS IS OUR YEAR!

by drewishdrewid on Oct 6, 2007 5:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow...
It just feels heavy doesn't it?  

by Yepsen on Oct 6, 2007 5:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i hate arizona so much....
bunch of overachievers..
It WILL Happen!!!

by Chanman25 on Oct 6, 2007 5:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And know you know
why I hate the Padres. To this day, I must watch replays of Garvey circling the bases after his game winning HR. It's played (almost) before every game on the Jumbotron in team highlights.

Every freakin' game.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Oct 6, 2007 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

at least Pink Hat Guy is in there ..
.. giving the ump the business. Keep it up old buddy
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Oct 6, 2007 5:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

In the words of Massa Ford
"History is bunk."

It's time the Cubs start writing their own.

LET'S GO CUBS

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Oct 6, 2007 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One out! PHOOOO
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Oct 6, 2007 5:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OH..
so that's how you strike someone out...  Good to see

by Yepsen on Oct 6, 2007 5:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

there you go Rich .. keep it up baby
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Oct 6, 2007 5:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the corners look tight
with this ump.  ugh
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Oct 6, 2007 5:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hey!
I see Pink Hat Guy!
This is our time. THIS IS OUR YEAR!

by drewishdrewid on Oct 6, 2007 5:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

excellent! 2ks in a row!
This is our time. THIS IS OUR YEAR!

by drewishdrewid on Oct 6, 2007 5:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He's cooking now.
Good job Rich.
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Oct 6, 2007 5:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe
a producer still hasn't told those announcers that it's MAR-mol not Mar-MOL.  Horrible.

by JakeH on Oct 6, 2007 5:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

think soriano gets booed in the first
if he has one of his ugly at bats?

could get ugly this evening.

"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Oct 6, 2007 5:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hill looks like lilly.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Oct 6, 2007 5:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's because their staff
Still thinks it's correct. if nobody corrects the producers, who's going to tell them. Thing is -- they HAVE A MEDIA GUIDE WITH ALL THE NAMES PRONOUNCED PHONETICALLY.....

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Oct 6, 2007 5:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

it's only the first inning...
it's only the first inning... it's only the first inning... it's only the first inning... it's only the first inning... it's only the first inning... it's only the first inning... it's only the first inning... it's only the first inning... it's only the first inning... it's only the first inning... it's only the first inning... it's only the first inning... it's only the first inning... it's only the first inning... holy crap.

by Yepsen on Oct 6, 2007 5:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

about as bad a start as i can imagine.
amazing how the dbacks rookies look better than any of our guys. young and drew are bonafide cub killers.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Oct 6, 2007 5:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

not sure I'm against hitting Augie
but it's really the wrong time...
This is our time. THIS IS OUR YEAR!

by drewishdrewid on Oct 6, 2007 5:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

o rly?
what has happened to us?

by Yepsen on Oct 6, 2007 5:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

bullpen action
in the 1st.  hate to say, but that's not a good sign.

by JakeH on Oct 6, 2007 5:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

this is ridiculous.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Oct 6, 2007 5:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pink hat guy
Shows more passion than entire team

by fngoat on Oct 6, 2007 5:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

30 pitches already
but out of it.  whew.
This is our time. THIS IS OUR YEAR!

by drewishdrewid on Oct 6, 2007 5:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's safe to say that...
...if Soriano, Theriot, and Lee go 1-2-3 here...the Cubs are sunk.

by rrtycoon2 on Oct 6, 2007 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

9 innings to play
but it sure would help to get some runs this inning.
This is our time. THIS IS OUR YEAR!

by drewishdrewid on Oct 6, 2007 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?
It's a one-inning game, folks, evidently.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 6, 2007 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm talking about
boos, trash on the field, riots, and other generally ugly stuff. the play is laughable.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Oct 6, 2007 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dust Z off .. Right Now, Lou .. Dust Him off
That's what I'm saying ..
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Oct 6, 2007 5:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lets hope Sori
can match what Young did.

by andysilv on Oct 6, 2007 5:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ei yi yi
found free internet at Gimpo airport and this is what I see?!  time for the big bats.  let's go boys!

by Mr Snrub on Oct 6, 2007 5:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hey!
a WALK!
This is our time. THIS IS OUR YEAR!

by drewishdrewid on Oct 6, 2007 5:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just our luck
that top of the inning took so long, it looks like the sun problem in RF is gone.  Assuming our guys would have gone the other way on Livan Hernandez.

Good start Fonz!

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Oct 6, 2007 5:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Leadoff Walk
Lets see if the Cubs can FINALLY make something happen with someone on base.

by rrtycoon2 on Oct 6, 2007 5:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ah, crap.
Local ESPN affiliate is airing the local college football game.  Dammit.

I'll see you guys later.

Before each game, please remember to feed the bats.

by Cool Hand on Oct 6, 2007 5:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

remember
we scored 2 first but ended up losing . . come on cubbies
iowa football

by CZ38 on Oct 6, 2007 5:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeahh
a big one
iowa football

by CZ38 on Oct 6, 2007 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhhhh
No reason to swing at the 3-1. None whatsoever.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Oct 6, 2007 5:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lou should have had the hit and run on in that
spot. no doubt about it. but we have to protect soriano's leg. too bad he's in the leadoff spot.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Oct 6, 2007 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would have been nice
to have someone on base... how does that always happen to us?

by Yepsen on Oct 6, 2007 5:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It doesn't
And it happens now and then to everybody.

Relax.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 6, 2007 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It doesn't?
You can't really feel as though the Cubs don't have a special knack for hitting into double plays and doing nothing with RISP?

by Yepsen on Oct 6, 2007 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I don't
I watch a lot of baseball, and it happens to everybody.

Did you watch the Indians-Yankees game last night? Cleveland wasted A BUNCH of chances last night before they finally cashed in.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 6, 2007 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not saying we're the only ones...
Just saying we're really good at it.

by Yepsen on Oct 6, 2007 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree
And the stats back me up. The Cubs average with RISP is very good.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 6, 2007 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not good...
Well, good he's on base, not good for his knee...

by Yepsen on Oct 6, 2007 5:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

how huge
was that dp
iowa football

by CZ38 on Oct 6, 2007 5:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You could have seen
bases loaded nobody out, perhaps a run in if Theriot takes the 3-1. Stupid, very stupid.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Oct 6, 2007 5:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How good a pitch was it
3-1 is a hitter's count, after all.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 6, 2007 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Borderline
but you need baserunners. If Hernandez is all over the place, TAKE the f'ing pitch.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Oct 6, 2007 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

relax
ARAM...
This is our time. THIS IS OUR YEAR!

by drewishdrewid on Oct 6, 2007 5:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow...
Whats this new batting style? Taking pitches?
GO CUBS GO! Hey Chicago whatdya say the Cubs are going to win today! "I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

by Galvan316 on Oct 6, 2007 5:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

argh
i have to board a plane.  hold down the fort here, i want to watch a GAME FOUR!

by Mr Snrub on Oct 6, 2007 5:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

notice they don't put
the pitch thingy up when it's a questionable call?

Freakin' umps...

This is our time. THIS IS OUR YEAR!

by drewishdrewid on Oct 6, 2007 5:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I did notice that in all of the TBS
games.  On any important call that doesn't seem to be a strike, they won't put up the strike zone on the replay.  Seems kind of dumb.  

Must be part of the contract that they signed with MLB.  The umps must have asked for that as part of the deal.

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Oct 6, 2007 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What a poooosey..
..he had no intention of swinging at any of those pitches.  
Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on Oct 6, 2007 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

whats arams
purpose . . . . he hasnt done shit
iowa football

by CZ38 on Oct 6, 2007 5:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well...
Let's hope they don't turn on being patient at the plate because it didn't work this time...  Keep it up and the runs will come... I hope.

by Yepsen on Oct 6, 2007 5:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOB .. 2
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Oct 6, 2007 5:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Too close to watch
that strike 3 is too close to take. looks like rami is not himself.

by zevkalman on Oct 6, 2007 5:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

good job Ramirez
damn...
It WILL Happen!!!

by Chanman25 on Oct 6, 2007 5:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

right.
you guys yell at the big three for swinging too much...

now you yell at them for NOT swinging.

You sure do want it both ways, don't you.  Sheesh.

At least two of those called strikes were balls.  The UMP is screwing us so far.

This is our time. THIS IS OUR YEAR!

by drewishdrewid on Oct 6, 2007 5:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed
Glad I missed the last two game threads because I was in Arizona.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 6, 2007 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will agree the patience is very nice
But full count, very close pitch, had to swing.

by Arbusto on Oct 6, 2007 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ump screwing us?
Hardly.  Those were great pitches.  Way too close to say "screwing us."  If they're close, Aram had to protect.

by Arbusto on Oct 6, 2007 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They were close enough..
..to be called strikes.  And I'll complain about anyone who gets up 3-0 and decides to take the next 3 pitches.  
Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on Oct 6, 2007 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's kind of asinine
I yell at them for swinging at balls and for not swinging at strikes - i.e. basic baseball strategy.  You're taking this contrarion shtick a bit far.
------ TheRiot Squad ------

by RightFieldSucks on Oct 6, 2007 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, the ump has
left all those runners in scoring position. Losers blame umpires.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Oct 6, 2007 5:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

well Livan Hernandez doesn't look sharp
hopefully the Cubs can MAYBE get a couple hits..
It WILL Happen!!!

by Chanman25 on Oct 6, 2007 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"reply to this"
Is a nice little tool so we know who you're talking to ;)

by Arbusto on Oct 6, 2007 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the umpire miscalled the pitches
So, yes, the umpire left THOSE TWO.

He did.

Losers decide the game is over in the top of the first inning.  Why put yourself through this?  Turn the game off, go swimming or something.

This is our time. THIS IS OUR YEAR!

by drewishdrewid on Oct 6, 2007 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then he just screwed the d-backs
Pitch to Young wasn't even close.

by Arbusto on Oct 6, 2007 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw that
if he's consistent, then ok.  It's early.  We'll see.
This is our time. THIS IS OUR YEAR!

by drewishdrewid on Oct 6, 2007 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs batting averages so far
Soriano .200
Theriot .200
Lee .333
Floyd .000
Ramirez .000
DeRosa .200
Jones .200

by zevkalman on Oct 6, 2007 5:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ok, Hill.
looking pretty good now.
This is our time. THIS IS OUR YEAR!

by drewishdrewid on Oct 6, 2007 5:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

drew is killing us.
time to amend the scouting report.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Oct 6, 2007 5:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

how did TBS's strike zone say that
called third strike was low when it crossed the front of the plate?  It seems that ball was ABOVE the knees when it crossed the front of the plate.  Very strange.

Doesn't matter, the call was right...but the "computer" seems wierd.

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Oct 6, 2007 5:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Did you mean "TBS"
is worthless?  Was that a typo?
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Oct 6, 2007 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's the Dbacks BA so far this series
Young .333
Drew .545
Byrnes .125
Jackson .000
Reynolds .333
Upton .667
Ojeda .571

See my post above for the Cubs BA.

Pretty unreal, huh?

by zevkalman on Oct 6, 2007 5:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the longer we can keep this series
going, the more these #s will even out to what (most) guys did during the year.  That is how this game works, right?

Law of averages.

We just need to keep it going.  One day at a time!

GO CUBS...please!!

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Oct 6, 2007 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Law Of Averages
Do you know what you are saying?

If there WAS a law of averages, the Cubs would have won a few World Championships over the last -- 100 YEARS?

Law of AVERAGES?

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Oct 6, 2007 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am only talking about a
single post season and player performance (I said nothing about team records/stats).  Let's not start with a discussion of the last 98 years of Cub history.  :-(
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Oct 6, 2007 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

someone needs to go remind Stephen Drew
that he isn't good..
It WILL Happen!!!

by Chanman25 on Oct 6, 2007 5:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think he just reminded himself!
This is our time. THIS IS OUR YEAR!

by drewishdrewid on Oct 6, 2007 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so...
Swing for a homer, stare at a strike, and get lucky on SS error.  Nice start...

by rrtycoon2 on Oct 6, 2007 5:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

bruins?
did the announcer just call the cubs the bruins? and didn't they call them the cowboys earlier?

by dkowal22 on Oct 6, 2007 5:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes.
This announcing team is horrible.

by zevkalman on Oct 6, 2007 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well
they've been kicking our asses. The praise is deserved.

by elgato on Oct 6, 2007 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

someone needs to remind Augie Ojeda
that on any other team he would be in the minors right now..
It WILL Happen!!!

by Chanman25 on Oct 6, 2007 5:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I like Jacques Jones
But frankly, I'd like there to be a different CF next year.

by zevkalman on Oct 6, 2007 5:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Torii Hunter maybe?
GO CUBS GO! Hey Chicago whatdya say the Cubs are going to win today! "I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

by Galvan316 on Oct 6, 2007 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no thanks
$14 million per is too much. Give Pie a shot.

by elgato on Oct 6, 2007 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes two on, one out!!!
PINCH HIT DAMNIT!
It WILL Happen!!!

by Chanman25 on Oct 6, 2007 5:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

KENDALL!
This is our time. THIS IS OUR YEAR!

by drewishdrewid on Oct 6, 2007 5:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice hit
Kendall.

by JakeH on Oct 6, 2007 5:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ugh...
bad bunt hill..
It WILL Happen!!!

by Chanman25 on Oct 6, 2007 5:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Better than a DP...
nt
Chicks dig the long ball

by Will23 on Oct 6, 2007 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cmon, JJ!
leg that out!

Dang!

This is our time. THIS IS OUR YEAR!

by drewishdrewid on Oct 6, 2007 5:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Cubs put the F.U. in Fundamentals

by fngoat on Oct 6, 2007 5:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hill, obviously
was watching "Bunting W/ Frank Thomas" on the pre-game show.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Oct 6, 2007 5:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL
yeah, I saw that too.

by zevkalman on Oct 6, 2007 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha
soo true..
It WILL Happen!!!

by Chanman25 on Oct 6, 2007 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

GOD DAMMIT SORIANO
GO CUBS GO! Hey Chicago whatdya say the Cubs are going to win today! "I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

by Galvan316 on Oct 6, 2007 5:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Calm down.
Soriano is actually looking patient at the plate for once.  You can't get a hit every time, and he hasn't struck out so far this game...let's hope for the best.

by zevkalman on Oct 6, 2007 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Id hope for the best if this was game 1
Maybe game 2.
GO CUBS GO! Hey Chicago whatdya say the Cubs are going to win today! "I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

by Galvan316 on Oct 6, 2007 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

now I do wish my jeans could do that ..
.. that would have been really handy in college
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Oct 6, 2007 5:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

meh...looking bleak...
how many men left on base now???
It WILL Happen!!!

by Chanman25 on Oct 6, 2007 5:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

"Looking bleak"?
After two innings of a nine-inning game? And a two-run deficit? Really?

If it's still that way in the ninth, maybe, just maybe, you might be right.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 6, 2007 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, it's certainly looking bleak.
hell, it's looking bleak for the yankees and phils as well.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Oct 6, 2007 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And the Angels as well
if you're talking about the series in general.

I think he was talking about this game, however.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 6, 2007 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, shall we start the conspiracy theories?
Bud Selig, angry over the Brewers being eliminated after being beaten by SD (while the Cubs beat the Reds), Paid off the Umpires in the tiebreak and the NLDS to call games against SD and the Cubs, ensuring their early departures in October.

by rrtycoon2 on Oct 6, 2007 5:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

umps have not decided one game of
this series, our very unclutch players have.

by DC Cubbie on Oct 6, 2007 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Conspiracy theories...
...aren't well known for their basis in fact.

by rrtycoon2 on Oct 6, 2007 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So...
Soriano just gave up on that one...

by Yepsen on Oct 6, 2007 5:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Baseball IQ
Why do these Cubs players have the baseball IQ of a bunch of morons.
Swinging at bad pitches, off the plate on 2-0, 3-1 counts is idiotic.
GAAWWWWDDDD!!
So much talent, squandered by stupidity.

by GoCubsGo! on Oct 6, 2007 5:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

As I said .. dust off Z .. Right NOW .
another double off the top of the inning
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Oct 6, 2007 5:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hill HAS GOT TO STOP THROWING THOSE
BATTING PARACTICE HIGH FAST BALLS ! ! ! !

by JFCubFan on Oct 6, 2007 5:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Soriana is my least favorite
player.  You can keep him and his homeruns.  Yuck!

by mgfabc on Oct 6, 2007 5:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOB - 4
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Oct 6, 2007 5:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Be happy the D'back
have stranded plenty too.
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Oct 6, 2007 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

funny how the dbacks swing at the first pitch
and destroy us. we're going to have to get a lot better this offseason.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Oct 6, 2007 5:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We should be at least tied by now .. BUT ..
.. it ain't over til its over
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Oct 6, 2007 5:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

COME ON .. STOP THEM NOW
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Oct 6, 2007 6:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't understand why Sori just stood there.
I'm not dissing him (yet), but it didn't look very cool that he just stood there after the ball hit the ivy.

by zevkalman on Oct 6, 2007 6:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

probably the quad issue ..
Jones still is probably going to be overcompensating all he can to cover this guy ..

.. Soriano better start hitting a darn sight better next inning.

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Oct 6, 2007 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Torrii Hunter? Anyone? Anyone?
GO CUBS GO! Hey Chicago whatdya say the Cubs are going to win today! "I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

by Galvan316 on Oct 6, 2007 6:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Hunter wants to play for the Cubs
He loves to scale the wall in center. If he did that at Wrigley, he might kill himself.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 6, 2007 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL
nice
GO CUBS GO! Hey Chicago whatdya say the Cubs are going to win today! "I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

by Galvan316 on Oct 6, 2007 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They just seem flat
It seems like the excitement stayed in Cincy.  I hope they get it rolling and bust out on these rookies!!!

by jac on Oct 6, 2007 6:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How about
How about we replace Soriano in LF with Pepsi machine.  It will field as well or better, and plus if JJ gets thirsty he can jog over and get an ice cold beverage.
------ TheRiot Squad ------

by RightFieldSucks on Oct 6, 2007 6:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LMAO!!!
GO CUBS GO! Hey Chicago whatdya say the Cubs are going to win today! "I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

by Galvan316 on Oct 6, 2007 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this your first game?
Soriano has thrown out runners in double-digit numbers this season.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Oct 6, 2007 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Replying to the wrong person
I'm saying that's one of the reasons you don't want to get rid of Sori.

by Arbusto on Oct 6, 2007 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Might as well...
send the pepsi machine to bat for him too.
Probably just as likely to reach base.

by GoCubsGo! on Oct 6, 2007 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ay chihuahua ..
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Oct 6, 2007 6:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The lineup for last SATURDAY
should be put in enmasse. RIGHT NOW
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Oct 6, 2007 6:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

w00t!
got him!

What's wrong with the crowd NOW, Stock-TONE!

This is our time. THIS IS OUR YEAR!

by drewishdrewid on Oct 6, 2007 6:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

JOCK jones
nice catch, now go teach soriano how to do it
iowa football

by CZ38 on Oct 6, 2007 6:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Augie
slugger Ojeda....just amazing.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Oct 6, 2007 6:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeahh
no kiddig, it felt like poo-holes was batting . .
iowa football

by CZ38 on Oct 6, 2007 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great catch Jacque !
Now LET'S GET SOME RUNS ! ! !

by JFCubFan on Oct 6, 2007 6:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone know if Mike Murphy from WCSR
Posts on this board?
GO CUBS GO! Hey Chicago whatdya say the Cubs are going to win today! "I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

by Galvan316 on Oct 6, 2007 6:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why not
Murph is great
GO CUBS GO! Hey Chicago whatdya say the Cubs are going to win today! "I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

by Galvan316 on Oct 6, 2007 6:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nails on a chalkboard
And a lot of nonsense. No offense, but I just can't stand him.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Oct 6, 2007 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

theriot
god damn, its like jock jones batting but he hits it to the SS insted of the 2B
iowa football

by CZ38 on Oct 6, 2007 6:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's nice....
to see Lee getting some hits now.  It'd be better if there would be baserunners on and our hitters weren't swinging at garbage and grounding out.

by OmegaMaxx on Oct 6, 2007 6:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Livan
Has some crazy movement on his pitches, gotta give credit to him

by OmegaMaxx on Oct 6, 2007 6:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wow! A ball?
The ump didn't call that a strike???   SHOCKED, SHOCKED I AM!
This is our time. THIS IS OUR YEAR!

by drewishdrewid on Oct 6, 2007 6:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

will aram choke
AGAIN
iowa football

by CZ38 on Oct 6, 2007 6:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow...
An intelligent non-swing by the Cubs.  Just don't ground into the DP Rami...

by OmegaMaxx on Oct 6, 2007 6:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

MAJOR REDEMPTION TIME
A-RAM, now is the time.
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Oct 6, 2007 6:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

1st and 2nd - 1 out AGAIN!
...and they still can't convert (or so I predict)

by rrtycoon2 on Oct 6, 2007 6:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what was he swinging at
jeez
iowa football

by CZ38 on Oct 6, 2007 6:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We've been clogging the bases.
But not scoring in these three games.  Maybe Rami could do something without chasing pitches out of the strike zone.

by zevkalman on Oct 6, 2007 6:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dear Cubs,
plz stop sucking with runners in scoring position.  thanks

 - All Cub fans  :D

by OmegaMaxx on Oct 6, 2007 6:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gawd
worthless... absolutely worthless

by OmegaMaxx on Oct 6, 2007 6:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

aram
what the fuck is he smiling about . . . jesus christ, talk about choking . ..
iowa football

by CZ38 on Oct 6, 2007 6:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs