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Open Thread: Cubs vs. Brewers, Saturday 6/30, 2:55 CT

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Just a reminder: despite what printed schedules may say, today's game begins at 2:55 CT, having been switched to accomodate Fox-TV. Not that this really matters, but the Cubs are 4-1 so far in 2007 in games televised on Fox.

As of early this morning the Fox Sports page that usually lists where each game is being carried hadn't been updated since last week. Today, in addition to Cubs/Brewers, Fox is carrying Tigers/Twins and Mets/Phillies, so your guess is as good as mine as to where the game will be seen. You'll want to turn the sound off, too, if you can watch it: Matt Vasgersian and Mark Grace are the broadcast team.

You'll note I haven't said anything about today's game. You know, "kiss of death" and all that. Instead, check out this story which appeared on the front page of today's Sun-Times, about Cliff Floyd's dad Cornelius, who is recovering from heart surgery, and whose doctors arranged to bring him to the ballpark yesterday, thinking it would do him some good. It did:

"This made me really happy, and I'm so glad I did it," he said. "It gave me a chance to get some of that fresh air, and get that summertime feeling back in the body."

"There's no better place for that than Wrigley Field."

Damn straight!
 Today's Starting Pitchers
Sean Marshall
 S. Marshall
Cubs		 vs. Ben Sheets
 B. Sheets
Brewers
4-2 W-L 9-3
2.44 ERA 3.09
34 SO 70
11 BB 23
6 HR 12
vs. Mil -- vs. Cubs
Marshall's only career appearance vs. Milwaukee was this 14-6 Cub win last September 26; half the Brewers in that lineup aren't even on the team any more.

Ben Sheets used to beat the Cubs like the proverbial drum; however, in the last three years it's been the other way around -- in nine starts vs. the Cubs since July 2004, Sheets is 0-5 with a 5.50 ERA and ten HR allowed, including a 6-3 Cub win in Milwaukee on April 7. That's the Sheets we hope we see today. He's been very consistent most of the year, not allowing more than three runs in any start since April 15.

Here's today's Mediacenter, for those who have MLB audio.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2006 version)

And, please visit our SBNation Brewers site Brew Crew Ball, for the Milwaukee fan point of view.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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As much as I enjoy the 9th inning heroics,
let's get a lead and build on it and not let it get to the last batter today lol

GO CUBS!!!

"When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches."- Ron Santo

by BigJohnAZ on Jun 30, 2007 10:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I just got off the phone with Comcast
They said that FOX SPorts has determined that the Cubs are the national coverage game today...originally it was the Mets
Milw-09-24-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Jun 30, 2007 10:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cool!
That means the Mets/Phillies go to the East Coast, the Tigers/Twins go to their own states and maybe some surrounding areas, and the Cubs/Brewers go everywhere else. (Of course, that may mean the Tigers/Twins go to parts of Iowa and Michigan where there are a lot of Cub fans.)

In general, of course. Usually they do something stupid like putting the Mets game in Los Angeles.

As the saying goes, "check local listings".

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 30, 2007 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fox Sports Espanol
will be broadcasting Cubs/Brewers this afternoon here in LA while the local Fox affliate has the Mets game.

National interest in Mets/Phillies? Who is the genius in the production office that scheduled that one?

by JFCubFan on Jun 30, 2007 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice story
about cliff's dad. no wonder cliff was hopping around like a kid yeserday when rammy hit the GWHR. good stuff.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 10:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pie vs. Patterson
I don't know anything about greg couch but this article was kind of interesting.

p.s. sorry for making anyone think about patterson

To Matt Murton - the biggest, baddest, hairiest, most testosterone filled S.O.B to ever put on a cubs uniform

by cubsirishkillme on Jun 30, 2007 11:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Man,
after a game like yesterdays I really hope we don't come out today and totally shit the bed.

by jshipp on Jun 30, 2007 11:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry....
....but I saw this over at Brew Crew Ball, where I can't figure out of they're baseball fans or nerds from MIT who overanalyze every little thing. In english, does anyone know what this says? Maybe I'm graph challenged. Us lawyers usually avoid crap like this.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jun 30, 2007 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Took me a while too...
What it is showing is the % chance that a team will win at that point of the game.  Before Aramis HR the Brewers had a 90% chance to win pretty much the entire game.  Then he hit the HR and the graph plumetted(sp) like the stock market did in 1929.

by GoCubbies34 on Jun 30, 2007 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhhhhhh.....
....thanks.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jun 30, 2007 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...
the blue line makes sense.  I couldn't figure out what "leverage index" means.

But it is fun to see that plummet to 0% win probability on Ramirez's swing.

by SouthernCub on Jun 30, 2007 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The graph
I think the blue line says that basically, from the 1st inning, there was a 90+% chance that the Brewers would win...Aram's HR then results in the precipitous dive from 90+% to 0%

not sure what stats they use for the percentages, but the "asymptote" in the bottom of the ninth is pretty hilariously demonstrates that the whole concept of the graph is retarded

To Matt Murton - the biggest, baddest, hairiest, most testosterone filled S.O.B to ever put on a cubs uniform

by cubsirishkillme on Jun 30, 2007 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oops...too late
:-)
To Matt Murton - the biggest, baddest, hairiest, most testosterone filled S.O.B to ever put on a cubs uniform

by cubsirishkillme on Jun 30, 2007 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My take...
is that it means they should have won, they should have won, they should have won... oh crap Ramirez homers... the Cubs won, the Cubs won, the Cubs won.  Go Cubbies!!!
"Dad gum right this games gonna be played under protest. . . I guarantee this is gonna be one protest that's upheld." --Hawk Harrelson, 6/24/07

by RynoHoF on Jun 30, 2007 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

signature
every time I read you signature I laugh at what a jack ass the "hawk" is...nice
To Matt Murton - the biggest, baddest, hairiest, most testosterone filled S.O.B to ever put on a cubs uniform

by cubsirishkillme on Jun 30, 2007 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a priceless quote
"Dad gum right this games gonna be played under protest. . . I guarantee this is gonna be one protest that's upheld." --Hawk Harrelson, 6/24/07

by RynoHoF on Jun 30, 2007 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mark Grace as a announcer
I get the impression that not many are impressed with Gracies broadcasting skills?  Or is it just Varsegian?

Personally, I think Gracie, and his two packs of winstons per day voice, are alright in the booth...but maybe I am just blinded by the fact that it is gracie.

To Matt Murton - the biggest, baddest, hairiest, most testosterone filled S.O.B to ever put on a cubs uniform

by cubsirishkillme on Jun 30, 2007 11:13 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think you're blinded.
Have you ever heard him? He's horrendous. If he wants to stay in baseball, he should get into coaching.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 30, 2007 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
I love Gracie, but he needs to put down the mic and slowly back away...

by Tangled Up In Blue on Jun 30, 2007 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And it's weird
because Gracie was such a quote-machine as a player that we all just naturally assumed that he'd be a great announcer.

But now he spits out clichés and inanities in the booth that would have embarrassed him if he'd have said them as a player.

by Josh77 on Jun 30, 2007 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I get the chance to watch on TV today
I will "try" to listen iwht a critical ear...but it will be difficult :)
To Matt Murton - the biggest, baddest, hairiest, most testosterone filled S.O.B to ever put on a cubs uniform

by cubsirishkillme on Jun 30, 2007 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course
my announcer radar is all off kilter...as I am now beginning to like Len (after his two eruptions this week)
To Matt Murton - the biggest, baddest, hairiest, most testosterone filled S.O.B to ever put on a cubs uniform

by cubsirishkillme on Jun 30, 2007 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was afraid
to say that out loud.=) I have to agree with you that after Len's two calls this week he is growing on me. Don't know if it what he's calling or how he's calling it...

by Tangled Up In Blue on Jun 30, 2007 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Len
I've always liked Len and I think most of the criticism has been unwarranted.  But one criticism I've read of him that I do think has some merit is that he doesn't rise to the excitement of big moments and connected to that, he has a bad home run call.

He may be improving that.  I think we were all happy with Kasper's call on Ramirez's HR.  I'm wondering if "Oh baby!" could become his "Holy Cow!"

by Josh77 on Jun 30, 2007 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha
yeah...the "oh baby" was pretty funny...I too was wondering if he is going to incorporate that
To Matt Murton - the biggest, baddest, hairiest, most testosterone filled S.O.B to ever put on a cubs uniform

by cubsirishkillme on Jun 30, 2007 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd kind of like that, actually.
Seems to suit him, and came about spontaneously. Those are the best kind.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 30, 2007 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Len and Bob
both do a great job. I have been trying to watch some non-Cubs games to get a better feeling for whats going on in MLB in general. I am not impressed with many of the commentators. Some have catchy phrases and special things they do, but not many. They don't paint a good idea of what is really happening on the field.

And it seems to me that one of the two commentators annoy me, if not both, on Fox Saturday games. I can't remember if it was Girardi or whoever was with him , but someone stunk it up bad earlier this year. Maybe I have just grown accustomed to Len and Bob's style and that's ok with me.

It isn't near as important to be loved for yourself as it is to be loved in spite of yourself.

by love the ivy on Jun 30, 2007 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I used to be a big Grace fan.....
...until he left the Cubs for the Diamondbacks and started to crap on the Cubs. He does the color for Diamondbacks TV, and although the Cubs and Grace kissed and made up at the last Cubs Convention, he still does it now and then. Moreover, listening to him makes me want to continually clear my own throat.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jun 30, 2007 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

anyone else ever hear the rumors
of Grace chain smoking in the dugout?  any truth?
To Matt Murton - the biggest, baddest, hairiest, most testosterone filled S.O.B to ever put on a cubs uniform

by cubsirishkillme on Jun 30, 2007 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno about chain smoking....
....but he did smoke in the runways.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jun 30, 2007 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wondering
if we'll see Pagan or Pie today? I know Uncle Lou wants to get Pie some ABs, but Pagan's hotter right now.
BTW still grinning from yesterday!

by Tangled Up In Blue on Jun 30, 2007 11:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Today's A Tall Order....
...Sheets is their stud, especially with Capuano being out. While the Cubs have had some success against him, it'll just be another big hole in the beer keg that is the Brewers' heart if the Cubs can beat him after what happened yesterday. I don't see how a game like yesterday doesn't get in the Brewers' heads. Take away the first inning, which was helped more than a little by some bad defense, and the Cubs dominated the game.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jun 30, 2007 11:21 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Everybody knows
that Cub fans will never have a broadcaster they are totally happy with.  How can we after we had Harry for all those years?

by jshipp on Jun 30, 2007 11:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

AM 1000 ESPN
Just reported Rock Cherry was brought up apparently, per Chicago Cubs message board. I don't know for who.

by GoCubbies34 on Jun 30, 2007 11:33 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That would sorta make sense
The bullpen got used a lot yesterday. I'd say it sucks to be Jones or Izturis right about now if this is true.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jun 30, 2007 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would be tricky to DL Jones...
if they're trying to trade him.  You can't trade a guy on the DL.  I'm not saying it wouldn't make sense, just that it would delay any possibility of a trade for 15 days.

Unless of course they DFA him.

Either way, I think Izturis is safe.  If he goes, then we only have one backup infielder.

by SouthernCub on Jun 30, 2007 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
I thought about that with Jones, but the trading thing isn't going so hot for Hendry right now anyway, so what the heck.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jun 30, 2007 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...
it could be one of those cases where Hendry knows he can't move Jones right now.  So he will get Jones out of the way until the trade deadline, then bring him back off the DL in time to make a move.  It's not like Jones is bringing anything to the table by being active anyway.

by SouthernCub on Jun 30, 2007 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suspect
that one of them discovered some magical "injury" this morning.

by Josh77 on Jun 30, 2007 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Either one of them could discover a hole....
...in their swings and no one would doubt it at all.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jun 30, 2007 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps...
... Jones has been traded. The 25-man roster (at 11:45 am) shows no changes, yet.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 30, 2007 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also true...
I hadn't considered that possibility.

by SouthernCub on Jun 30, 2007 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You've probably already heard, but...
that idiot fan who ran on the field on Monday is being charged with a felony and faces 3 years in prison.  I'm betting that he regrets it now.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-070629fan-wrigleyjun29,1,263547.sto ry?coll=cs-cubs-headlines

"Dad gum right this games gonna be played under protest. . . I guarantee this is gonna be one protest that's upheld." --Hawk Harrelson, 6/24/07

by RynoHoF on Jun 30, 2007 11:49 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He did it for $400
And his bail was set at $20,000.

Seems like "Fuzzy Math" to me...

Go Nebraska Football!

by sanantonecub on Jun 30, 2007 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm no economist or anything
but it seems like he got screwed in that deal

by DTJchris on Jun 30, 2007 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why doesn't FOX
broadcast one game from an Eastern team, a Central team, and a West Coast team every Saturday?  

Just as I am no economist, I am also no program director, but I would assume that that is how they would get the highest ratings.  

by DTJchris on Jun 30, 2007 12:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Really really happy
about the win yesterday. I hope the winning ways continue.

GO CUBS!!!

Men who whine are so unattractive. This place is full of them.

by sue369 on Jun 30, 2007 12:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF
Rock Cherry was pulled up and Petrick was sent down.  Thats BS.  We couldn't DL anyone?  Now we can't have Petrick back up for what, 10 days?  He was looking good too.

by GoCubbies34 on Jun 30, 2007 12:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We're apparently
trying to stretch our bullpen out by rotating pitchers with options down to the minors.

I think it's 15 days, but the exception is if we DL someone.

by Josh77 on Jun 30, 2007 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

10 days
unless someone is DL'd.

by Maddog on Jun 30, 2007 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In case anyone is interested
Here's the full NL and AL Playoff Chance standings, using the link that Al has on the right sidebar.

American League:                National League:
BOSTON          97.872          NY METS         86.196
LA ANGELS       83.200          MILWAUKEE       80.152
DETROIT         72.877          SAN DIEGO       69.667
CLEVELAND       68.090          LA DODGERS      62.844
OAKLAND         22.497          CH CUBS         42.322
SEATTLE         19.850          ATLANTA         24.659
NY YANKEES      16.358          ARIZONA         17.513
MINNESOTA       12.080          PHILADELPHIA    10.370
TORONTO          5.301          COLORADO         2.748
BALTIMORE        1.674          ST LOUIS         1.300
TEXAS             .102          SAN FRANCISCO     .992
CH WHITE SOX      .050          FLORIDA           .984
KANSAS CITY       .032          HOUSTON           .108
TAMPA BAY         .010          PITTSBURGH        .069
                                CINCINNATI        .051
                                WASHINGTON        .017

Go Nebraska Football!

by sanantonecub on Jun 30, 2007 1:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

As you can see
The Cardinals and White Sox are where they should be.

by vegascubsfan on Jun 30, 2007 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Weren't the Cubs ..
.. like at 25% before the winning streak? So even though we haven't gained much ground, in theory, we've made up like 17%. So we got that going for us, which is nice.
rain delay theatre

by rob9802 on Jun 30, 2007 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't know you could fiddle roster like this
Seems a little shaky pitch a guy 2 of 3 days or til he can't go, then recall another (similar?) pitcher...didn't see enough to judge but thought Petry showed more promise than Cherry??

Next week 7 games on road will be interesting test altho 2 bad teams, Wash can score...seems we're tap-dancing around or avoiding the issue with wanting 12 pitchers now until Hendry can make a move...they could send down Theriot the way Fontenot is hitting....altho I like both...Izzy and Jones aren't helping much but still could prove to have some value, esp. defensively for JJ...throw him in there a game and see what happens maybe he could get hot for a few weeks (we're gonna need to find some offense when Lee's suspension kicks in, next week?)

Sorry for rambles, killin time before Sat. game hate these late starts

by writerinwrigley on Jun 30, 2007 1:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not sure
I understand this move either. Wouldn't have made more sense to send The Riot down? (As much as it pains me to write that.)Even Izzy? We still only have 11 pitchers and a bullpen that was taxed pretty hard yesterday.

Is there a move out there, either including JJ or not, that makes sense. The list of trade partners for JJ gets smaller with each passing day.

by Tangled Up In Blue on Jun 30, 2007 1:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well..
Petrick threw 30 pitches yesterday.  He can't pitch today.  Wuertz threw over 20.  He'd probably be the last guy up.  That leaves you with Howry, Marmol, Eyre, and Ohman.  Is that the bullpen you want to face the Brewers with today?

You might send Theriot down, but then Izturis is the only bench infielder.  What if somebody gets hurt but not serious enough to be DL'd? Then Izzy would have to play every day until then.  

Petrick threw well, but he'll be back.  Our bullpen is very thin today.  We'd be screwed if Marshall sucks today if we didn't recall a pitcher.

by Wesley on Jun 30, 2007 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else
dreaming of Petrick setting up Marmol in the next year or so?

by Josh77 on Jun 30, 2007 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What
a formidable combination that would be!

by Tangled Up In Blue on Jun 30, 2007 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still have dreams
Of Kerry Wood making a healthy return (not this season).

by Arbusto on Jun 30, 2007 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right
It makes sense to bring up a pitcher. I like the move to add another arm, just wasn't sold on sending an arm down. Now we have to wait to bring Petrick back up.
You are also right in sending Theriot or Izzy would have thinned our bench.
Guess it's the whole having my cake and eating it too senario...

by Tangled Up In Blue on Jun 30, 2007 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Petrick was good ...
But he's not quite ready just yet. He's got to get better at locating his second and third pitches. It's better to send him down after having success than keeping him up here and having him possibly go through some struggles. He'll be back up in September though, maybe sooner.
rain delay theatre

by rob9802 on Jun 30, 2007 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's time
to DFA Jones.  We'll have to eat his whole contract, but he's not going to play here again.  Someone will give us a prospect during the 10 day period.

If we really had Graham Taylor from the Marlins, though, I'm PO'd that trade fell through.

by Josh77 on Jun 30, 2007 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Izzy needs to be sent down!
We can't have this going on in the club house!!

by GoCubbies34 on Jun 30, 2007 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Odd, indeed.
First time I've seen a sexual assault in the dugout.  ANY dugout.  Hell, ANYWHERE in public.

Wow.

by BlueSox on Jun 30, 2007 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My god!
It was Goodyear day at Wrigley. Cliff Floyd just got his tires rotated for free. Ewwww!

by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2007 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was Izzy on Ramirez
And I think the term is "goosed"  teabag is when ya put your junk on someone

by GoCubbies34 on Jun 30, 2007 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Teabagged?
I thought that was only in basketball.

by Arbusto on Jun 30, 2007 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The look.....
on ARam's face in the last frame ...shocked/placid?

by coral on Jun 30, 2007 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Todays game
The winner of today's game will win the NL Central is my prediction.
I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 30, 2007 1:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And I predict
That if the total number of runs scored is greater than 10, 62 will be the number of hot dogs eaten by the winner of the July 4th hot-dog eating contest.
Go Nebraska Football!

by sanantonecub on Jun 30, 2007 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I live in South Carolina
so I guess Im going to be stuck with the Mets/Phillies :(, this sucks.
Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jun 30, 2007 1:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

When did the game on the 21st end?
Wasn't it about 430 which is right before the official start of summer?

That means we haven't lost since the start of summer.

I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 30, 2007 1:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not a bad move
We cant give Jones or Izturis away. We need fresh arms for today and tomorrow. Next week is the Nationals and the Pirates. You have to play the odds with the opponent you are facing.

The only part that sucks is Cherry never once has looked as good as Petrick, but I am sure we will see Billy back up after the break.

Anyone have any thoughts on something I can do to keep busy over the AS break? Off days drive me crazy, I cant imagine what I am going to do for 4 days.

by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2007 1:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Research the
D Lee phenomenon:  Despite being somewhere around the top 5 of most offensive NL stats (including a gaudy .375   batting average with RISP), he has hit only 6 homers and has only about 40 RBI's.  Many are saying he's actually hurting the team.

Although I think that idea is totally absurd, the question remains:  Where has Derrik's power gone and how has it affected the team?

by BlueSox on Jun 30, 2007 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe the wrist
Maybe something with the wrist is not affecting his swing and his eye but the power he has in said swing.
I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 30, 2007 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've heard that before,
but then why is he still creaming the ball hard, but not on enough of an upward trajectory to get it out?

Is there someone who knows if it's possible to have a wrist injury that impedes his swing only when he swings upwards?

by BlueSox on Jun 30, 2007 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he's decided ...
To hit for average rather than for only power--which A-Ram falls prey to ...

Though D-Lee is in a tad of a slump, he's still this team's best player on a talented team (well, except for Izuseless)!

BTW--what is happening to Sean Marshall?  This looks like a repeat of yesterday's first inning.  HE NEEDS TO SETTLE DOWN! Perhaps it's the national exposure?

LRRF

"One of the worst writers on this board."

by Littlerock Rynofan on Jun 30, 2007 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One of the BAD things about NYC
I will NEVER get a Cubs game on Fox. It ALWAYS the Mets or
Yankees. The ONLY one that they had this year was the Phillies
Saturday since both Mets &  Yankees had night games and that didn't help as I was IN Philadelphia for that ugly loss

A note on sending players up and down to stretch out BP
and bench. This is TERRIBLY short sighted management. Next
year or the after when we really need to send a young player down who is actuallly struggling and needs work, we will be screwed because he will be OUT OF OPTIONS.

"It's the Cubbies. There's always a vibe. It's the greatest vibe in baseball." Greg Maddux on Cub fan's optimism even after the 06 debacle.

by jessica on Jun 30, 2007 2:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Clarification
...about the "out of options" thing.

by BlueSox on Jun 30, 2007 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very complicated
Basically MLB has very precise system limiting the number of times players can be brought up and sent back to the minors based on days of service in both .  For instance I know Ohman is out of options so if he sucks the Cubs have to release him or at least put him through wavers he can't be sent down. Obviously Murton had options left so he got sent down. What I am saying is that if they are in fact bringing back Cherry for the SECOND time they have blown two of his options. In a related note I know that by bringing up Pie as early as they did they lost a full year of keeping under control. I believe if he had played something like his first 25 games in the minors the Cubs would have had him for another year. I think Hendry and others are just living for the moment and not thinking of reprecussions of some of this
Pie I think was necessary but shuttling Cherry. Gallagher Petrick
etc may well come back to haunt them
Arizona Phil at The Cub Reporter blog is the expert on this and usually posts a complete detail of player options and remaining years under control of club there several times a year.
"It's the Cubbies. There's always a vibe. It's the greatest vibe in baseball." Greg Maddux on Cub fan's optimism even after the 06 debacle.

by jessica on Jun 30, 2007 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matt Murton
Does anyone feel bad for Murton.  Not only is he in Iowa but he's lost title of weirdest hair in Chicago to the Bulls top draft pick.
I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jun 30, 2007 2:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL
I think Matt will gladly give up the hair title to "Joe-Kim."

by BlueSox on Jun 30, 2007 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ken Rothensal bashes Cubs again
says Zambrano wants more money, Yankees are going to get him. yada yada yada...get that stupid smile off your face when you don't talk it's creepy..
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 2:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cliff's Dad
What a great effort by the medical team - I'm now actually proud to work at the U of C

by coral on Jun 30, 2007 2:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Kevin Kennedy
on Fox just said that the ballboy tackled the goof on the field the other day.  I thought it was a security guy -- Migursky?

by BlueSox on Jun 30, 2007 2:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cubs lineup
Soriano LF
Fontenot SS
Lee 1B
Ramirez 3B
Floyd RF
DeRosa 2B
Pagan CF
Koyie Hill C
Sean Marshall P

with exceptions to the bottom 2 of the batting order, this is really been a consistant lineup for the last week.

Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 2:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Where do you get
the line-ups this early.

by BlueSox on Jun 30, 2007 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nevermind!
It never posted lol

by GoCubbies34 on Jun 30, 2007 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for telling me.
I thought I was going senile.

by BlueSox on Jun 30, 2007 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go Cubs Go
May the Baseball Gods smile again on you today !!

by coral on Jun 30, 2007 2:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

come on Font...
error...
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 2:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's not being shown in D.C.
WTF
"He's overmanaging me, just in case you guys want to hear that. Lou overmanaged Ozzie today..." - Ozzie Guillen

by NittanyCub on Jun 30, 2007 3:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This sucks
I know I shouldn't have come here for the summer
"He's overmanaging me, just in case you guys want to hear that. Lou overmanaged Ozzie today..." - Ozzie Guillen

by NittanyCub on Jun 30, 2007 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

whew
That was scary.

by elgato on Jun 30, 2007 3:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i HATE FOX ..
Why do I want to watch the Mets beating up on the Phillies??? WHY if I live in Tennessee? That's not exactly EAST COAST now is it??

AUAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUgh

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Jun 30, 2007 3:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

fox
i'm in CALIFORNIA and they're showing mets/phillies.
Cubs win! Cubs win! Holy cow!

by McNally on Jun 30, 2007 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh my.
Off the wall.  one run in and no outs.

by BlueSox on Jun 30, 2007 3:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate the Brewers...
1-0...

this is why we shouldn't have started Marshall today right after Hill...Marquis should have gone.

Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 3:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

3-0
we gotta spread Marshall and Hill out in this rotation if they are going to suceed..
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 3:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This is ...
Hopefully not another day where Lou has to rely on the bullpen.  I'm guessing there's a lot of tired arms on that bench ... ugh.
"One of the worst writers on this board."

by Littlerock Rynofan on Jun 30, 2007 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eyre is up already
Eyre's warming in the pen already.

by NTNgod on Jun 30, 2007 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK
We have a need to spot this team 5 runs in the first.

Sheesh.

by BlueSox on Jun 30, 2007 3:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And then ...
We can see if the team is talented over just darn lucky ... here's hoping!
"One of the worst writers on this board."

by Littlerock Rynofan on Jun 30, 2007 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

UGH!! 4-0
Come on Sean!
Men who whine are so unattractive. This place is full of them.

by sue369 on Jun 30, 2007 3:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

4-0!!
god!!!
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 3:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

omfg
What is going on

by GoCubbies34 on Jun 30, 2007 3:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

will marshall make it through one?
what is wrong with him?
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 3:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Now I fear for Marquis' start ...
Tomorrow--he hasn't exactly been burning up innings, either.  Hold it together, Sean!
"One of the worst writers on this board."

by Littlerock Rynofan on Jun 30, 2007 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yikes.
n/t
"One of the worst writers on this board."

by Littlerock Rynofan on Jun 30, 2007 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Had a bad
feeling about this game today. I know it's only the top of the 1st but it's unlikely we'll come back 2 days in a row. And look who's up in the 'pen!

by andysilv on Jun 30, 2007 3:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

AND
were up against Ben Sheets.

Umm... Sue, would you call this, perhaps, a challenging situation.

by BlueSox on Jun 30, 2007 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To say
the least.
Men who whine are so unattractive. This place is full of them.

by sue369 on Jun 30, 2007 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

do you think this inning would have
been completely different if Font didn't commit that error?
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh ya never know...
31 pitches and inning over. 4-0

by GoCubbies34 on Jun 30, 2007 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marshall is sucking it up right now
"He's overmanaging me, just in case you guys want to hear that. Lou overmanaged Ozzie today..." - Ozzie Guillen

by NittanyCub on Jun 30, 2007 3:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I too had a bad feeling.
God they hit that ball. Up and down the lineup. They are just hammering Marshall.  I was worried about this entire series, without Z and Lilly pitching.

I also despise Grace calling games, so this is not good at all.

by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2007 3:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank God
Marshal won't make it to the fourth.

by MrDurden on Jun 30, 2007 3:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I despise Grace period
GO CUBS GO! Hey Chicago whatdya say the Cubs are going to win today!

by Galvan316 on Jun 30, 2007 3:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gracie
Why do you despise Grace so much?  After all he did for the Cubs while he was here?
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Jun 30, 2007 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how can you despise Grace?
I guess he's not the greatest broadcaster, but he was basically the face (or co-face) of the Cubs for a decade. Granted, it was a pretty weak decade ...

by elgato on Jun 30, 2007 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We need to react immediately.
No more waiting till the 6th to get going. They have all seen Sheets stuff. Nothing is new. Get up there and put up some runs, hollering right back.

by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2007 3:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Atlthough
I have seen Marshall do this before. He does get down early and right the ship, so lets see.

by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2007 3:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

eh..we aren't out of it...
...i feel confident that this team can score 4 runs...
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 3:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

never good
to see the opposing pitcher come to the plate in the first inning for the second consecutive day

by bennyha on Jun 30, 2007 3:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

didn't matter yesterday..
..
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

of course not
its still not good though, especially for our bullpen

by bennyha on Jun 30, 2007 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and the Fonz starts with a single
come on Font..
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 3:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

trade dempster
just for that totally stupid line-up intro

by coral on Jun 30, 2007 3:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I knew we'd bounce back quickly
WOOHOOOOO!!!  And what the hell was wrong with Dempster??? That had to be embarrasing
PIE!!!

by LilLPLancer23 on Jun 30, 2007 3:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

see 4-1 on Font's TRIPLE
man is he hot..making up for the error too. WE ARENT't out of this!
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 3:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Only 3
more to tie it and 4 to take the lead.
Men who whine are so unattractive. This place is full of them.

by sue369 on Jun 30, 2007 3:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Great
I've got Ben Sheets in one fantasy league and Sean Marshall in the other.

I was hoping for a 1-0 Cub victory.

But I'll always let my fantasy team get clubbed for a Cub victory, so keep whacking Sheets.

by Josh77 on Jun 30, 2007 3:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

4-2
Come on Cubs!!!!
Men who whine are so unattractive. This place is full of them.

by sue369 on Jun 30, 2007 3:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Mark Grace just spoke in the 3rd person about DLee
He said gracie was fooled by that change up. I swear to god he did.

by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2007 3:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Whoa
I heard that too.

Weird.

by wjblol on Jun 30, 2007 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think ...
Grace was talking in the third person about how we had just said Sheets only has two pitches, and then Sheets struck out Lee on a third pitch (a shutout).

It was a weird way of saying it, but Grace was just saying that he erred in his call of the game.

by elgato on Jun 30, 2007 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not a "shutout"
A changeup. My bad.

by elgato on Jun 30, 2007 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol
they flipped derosa and f-not

by anormal on Jun 30, 2007 3:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lee
continues to not hit either in the clutch or when someone in on base..
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 3:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

check the stats
He's still hitting very well with RISP. Granted, he's struggled lately in clutch situations, but overall ...

by elgato on Jun 30, 2007 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lately he hasn't...
lately has in the past two weeks..
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hows that Igawa is better then Dice-K
arguement going for the Yankees fans?
GO CUBS GO! Hey Chicago whatdya say the Cubs are going to win today!

by Galvan316 on Jun 30, 2007 3:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Braun
There is something about this Braun kid I just dont like, but man can he rake it.

by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2007 3:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Braun
He looks like a Pauly Shore Paul Reubens love child. No reference to my screen name.

by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2007 3:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

prince fielder is on roids
..
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 3:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't really say that.
That dude is just big
"He's overmanaging me, just in case you guys want to hear that. Lou overmanaged Ozzie today..." - Ozzie Guillen

by NittanyCub on Jun 30, 2007 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

5-2 brewers
"He's overmanaging me, just in case you guys want to hear that. Lou overmanaged Ozzie today..." - Ozzie Guillen

by NittanyCub on Jun 30, 2007 3:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

6-2*
spoke too soon
"He's overmanaging me, just in case you guys want to hear that. Lou overmanaged Ozzie today..." - Ozzie Guillen

by NittanyCub on Jun 30, 2007 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

poop
I hate this.
Men who whine are so unattractive. This place is full of them.

by sue369 on Jun 30, 2007 3:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

innocent little walks
And it's 6-2. Get Marshall out, Lou.

by elgato on Jun 30, 2007 3:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Realistically we can't
He needs to play a few more innings.  Our BP will be absolutely spent, and what about tomorrow??

by GoCubbies34 on Jun 30, 2007 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 out walks
always come back to haunt a guy

by bennyha on Jun 30, 2007 3:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

do you think 13 pitchers
will be enough?
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Jun 30, 2007 3:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I could see JJ
throw an inning or 2.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Jun 30, 2007 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHY.........................
DO OUR STARTING PITCHERS PITCH SO HORIBBLY IN CLUTCH GAMES?????????

The bullpen does better than they do in clitch situations...

by Rogue 52 on Jun 30, 2007 3:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

TAKE HIM OUT!!
Sean should never pitch again after Hill
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 3:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

poop....poop...poop
POOP
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Jun 30, 2007 3:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Still wanna do that Marshall and Jones
for Griffey trade?
GO CUBS GO! Hey Chicago whatdya say the Cubs are going to win today!

by Galvan316 on Jun 30, 2007 3:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok,
this is worse than yesterday.

by BlueSox on Jun 30, 2007 3:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Brewers are using roids
no other reason why PEOPLE LIKE ESTRADA ARE 2 for 2!
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 3:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

mainly out of anger
but seriously! Its Johnny Estrada!
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

estrada's always been
good for at least one torrid june or july througout his career, then he reverts to form.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

good god
what a fuckin joke

by bennyha on Jun 30, 2007 3:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I say leave him in
He's got good stuff, just not in these early innings
"He's overmanaging me, just in case you guys want to hear that. Lou overmanaged Ozzie today..." - Ozzie Guillen

by NittanyCub on Jun 30, 2007 3:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Starting pitching
First Marquis, then Hill, and now Marshall.  Can we get a quality start out of someone before our bullpen is exhausted?  These five inning or less starts are going to take their toll.

And how many times do we have two outs, nobody on, and give up multiple runs?

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)

by cubfred on Jun 30, 2007 3:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

fortunately (depending on your POV)
Eyre hasn't pitched in like a month, so he should be able to go three innings.

by elgato on Jun 30, 2007 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He might be able to go 3 innings, but then so
could you and I theoretically...Eyre is a totally wasted roster spot.  We would be keeping the pitcher who was sent down and bringing up another if they would get rid of Eyre.  

by DudeVf11 on Jun 30, 2007 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

people on this board predicted it
Marshall would one day get drilled because he is pitching behind Hill...they need to be split up in the rotation after the all star break
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 3:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yup
they're the same pitcher
If Jesus went to college these days, he would go to Notre Dame

by NDcubsfan on Jun 30, 2007 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still only 5 runs I guess
providing the bullpen can hold it together again.

by andysilv on Jun 30, 2007 3:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that's
why i lovet his cubs team. no lead is safe with these guys and d-lee has yet to get on track. it's going to be a good summer.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow
this is amazing

by cubsfan9393 on Jun 30, 2007 3:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

this hurts
big game and we get sean marshall from the second half of last year instead of the new, effective sean marshall. crap on a stick.

and WTF was d-lee swinging at last inning? he's in an ugly funk. maybe that suspension is coming at good time for him. give him time to clear his head...

"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 3:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lee probably not looking for the change
Sheets has been throwing a lot of changeups this year, particularly his last few starts.

If Lee wasn't aware of that, and he was thinking Sheets is straight curve/fastball like before - he probably saw a pitch that wasn't a curve, figured fastball, and was thus surprised when the bottom dropped out.

by NTNgod on Jun 30, 2007 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sheets
showed him the change earlier in the AB, but maybe as you say he was looking fastball and got a change.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Changeup
True, but Sheets using it as more than a early/midAB show-me pitch is relatively new.

Sheets and Lee have both been around, so as a hitter, there's probably a bit of ingrained thinking against a guy you've faced a bunch - particularly on a 3-2 pitch.

by NTNgod on Jun 30, 2007 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And the next AB...
Sheets throws low in the zone again w/ 2 strikes, but a fastball this time, and Lee just took it.

Lee might have had changeup on the brain that time.

by NTNgod on Jun 30, 2007 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah
last year, lee had much better at bats. he seems to be getting ran pretty good by the better pitchers this year.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So frustrating
when the Cubs hit the ball a ton but right at people. I know I'm not saying anything particularly insightful here.

by elgato on Jun 30, 2007 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if a better gets on..
..do you let Marshall bat?
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 3:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That would be an easy question
if our bullpen wasn't so depleted.  We're apparently down to Eyre! <eyes cross>

by BlueSox on Jun 30, 2007 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ben sheets
is using every single inch of that wind blowing in. he's going to give the cubs some runs today. they just have to shut out the brewers going forward.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 3:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Grace
"Hit on the Screws"
"getting smoked"
"the outs are hard hit"
"runs are tough to come by"
"special fans, love affair"
"wind kept it in the park"

That's the clever Gracie in one half inning.  We just need one reference to a slump buster and he may have used up his vocabulary.

by N Oakley on Jun 30, 2007 3:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

do you think
the mini-blowup of starting pitching has anything to do with an unfamiliar batterymate?  how many games ago was the barrett trade?
Cubs win! Cubs win! Holy cow!

by McNally on Jun 30, 2007 3:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't think so
Hasn't Marshall's pitched to Hill in pretty much all his starts?

by broham on Jun 30, 2007 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In an effort to Lighten the mood in here
This is a headline from this weeks Onion:

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Home Run"

and there's a picture of him clutching his chest with an O-Face expression, pretty funny stuff

by DTJchris on Jun 30, 2007 3:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

JJ
in center? Really? Really!

by Tangled Up In Blue on Jun 30, 2007 3:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i guess pinella
figures he's gotta load up on power in the lineup with this deficit.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

also
pagan whacked the wall pretty good on fielder's 2B, maybe he got banged up...
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

on the plus side
We get to watch Eyre and JJ play. Wonder what's on HBO ...

by elgato on Jun 30, 2007 3:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Did Lou
just wave the white flag on this game?

by BlueSox on Jun 30, 2007 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess so...
What is worse, Jones in or Eyre in??

by GoCubbies34 on Jun 30, 2007 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wouldn't say that
Marshall didn't leave Lou with a ton of options. Lou could have put Felix in center, but otherwise ...

Actually, getting JJ some playing time isn't a bad idea. We're already down by 5 -- maybe JJ will think it's last season again and go back to his 2006 form?

by elgato on Jun 30, 2007 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point,
but why not hope for Pie to break out instead of JackWeee?  At least Pie has a much better chance to prevent more runs from scoring than Jones.

by BlueSox on Jun 30, 2007 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

felix isn't exactly tearing it up at the plate
But I agree on the defense.

F-ing Scott Eyre.

by elgato on Jun 30, 2007 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if they're going to trade jones
they've got to play him and give him a chance to make himself a marketable player.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jones?!?!?!
wtf is up w/ the double switch?? what??

by GoCubbies34 on Jun 30, 2007 3:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

games over...
..gotta let this one go..
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 3:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nice
sportsmanship, running with a 5-run lead. didn't the brewers get sore about that when the cubs thumped them in milwaukee?
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 3:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Time to
close the tent on this circus...

by Tangled Up In Blue on Jun 30, 2007 3:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

awww
come on, after yesterday, you guys don't think the cubs can come back from 5 down? oh ye of little faith. we're cubs fans, this is what we do. hope.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 3:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

we're playing well right now
But coming back from 5 down AND keeping the Brewers from scroing again on consecutive days? Pretty tall order.

by elgato on Jun 30, 2007 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why not?
crazy bad things happen to the cubs. why not crazy good things? why not us?
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I don't think there are a shortage
of reasons in response to "Why not us?"  Shall we start with 99 years of frustration?

by BlueSox on Jun 30, 2007 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hope you're right
But I don't see it happening today. Marshall's short outing really hemmed us in -- especially after the short start by Hill yesterday.

by elgato on Jun 30, 2007 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well
sheets looks pretty hittable today and after the lidging that ramirez gave cordero yesterday, i'd say the confidence meter isn't too high over in the brewers' pen. this game isn't over, but it's not looking good right now.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

honestly
I think we can take something very important today.

Going into this game, I thought the Cubs were about even with the Brewers, but that we started slow and lost more heartbreakers.

But I think we're seeing that the Brewers are significantly better than we are. Say a 9 compared with a 7.5. I'm not writing us off. Trades, injuries, strong or weak second halves could change things.

But right now, the Brewers are a better team.

by elgato on Jun 30, 2007 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree with you completely
there lineup is really good and their starting pitching and bullpen are better than ours. they are a really solid squad and i was relieved to get that one yesterday because i knew the next 2 days would be tough, especially with marquis going tomorrow. have a hard time imaging anything good coming from him these days i just dont think he is very good. also, once we hit .500 we usually decide to head back south. whats the most we have been over .500 all year 1 game??

by bennyha on Jun 30, 2007 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we still have holes
Yesterday was huge, because if we lost that, we could have easily been 10.5 games back on Monday. Worst that can happen now is 8.5, which wouldn't be good, but it's not impossible to make up.

by elgato on Jun 30, 2007 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This sucks,
I cant watch or listen to the game, becasue of stupid MLB Audio licesensing. Instead Im stuck with Mets/Phils. Anybody know any way I can get some audio????
Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jun 30, 2007 3:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

get thee
to a tavern...
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did
you try Gameday audio on mlb.com?

by Tangled Up In Blue on Jun 30, 2007 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes
I live in South Carolina, so no place has the game on due to FOX regional coverage......and dont you have to pay at Gameday Audio?? I have extra innings, but fox games arent carried on that.
Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jun 30, 2007 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think
its $20.00 a year.  Got a credit card?

by BlueSox on Jun 30, 2007 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not
sure about payment for Gameday. I dont understand the licensing for Fox. Believe it or not I was hoping to catch the Phils game today. I went to high school with Happ. How does he look?

by Tangled Up In Blue on Jun 30, 2007 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meaning
I  tried to go to the bar to see both games...

by Tangled Up In Blue on Jun 30, 2007 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ehh
Happ looks decent. Hes young, they were making a big deal out of his name, J.A.

But nah, I'm not going to pay 20.00 for the audio, when I have extra innings, and there on there every game. Theres probably four games a year like this that I cant watch or hear. Its ok.

Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jun 30, 2007 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think
he still might be a year or two away.
Yeah we used to call him is J dot A dot...

by Tangled Up In Blue on Jun 30, 2007 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet
Well it seems like the Cubs may lose this one today. But like Lou said theres a lot of baseball left to be played. Lets just take tommorows game!
Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jun 30, 2007 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Be glad
you can't hear it. Grace just said "This is a fun one to watch" I died a little inside

by Tangled Up In Blue on Jun 30, 2007 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This game
is a good one to miss.

by BlueSox on Jun 30, 2007 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems like it
Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jun 30, 2007 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gameday Audio
is actually $15 a year.

I don't know if that makes any difference to you--that you'd pay 15 bucks but not 20.

But no, wherever you are in these United States, there is only going to be one game on TV this afternoon.  That's what FOX wants.

by Josh77 on Jun 30, 2007 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gary
there's no giving up! Ever! Just a little frustration talking =)

by Tangled Up In Blue on Jun 30, 2007 3:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah
i hear that.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last Appearance?
Is this the last appearance in Cubs' uniforms for Scott Eyre and Jacque Jones?

The problem is you don't want to just give them away, but, you have to show other teams that they have some value.  The only way to do that is to play them.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)

by cubfred on Jun 30, 2007 3:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no
seems like we are going to be tortured for our gm's dumbass decision to sign these 2 for 3 years and will be stuck with them until the end of next year unless we DFA them

by bennyha on Jun 30, 2007 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs waste no time against the Brewers
its the Cubs main headline..pathetic..
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 3:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

eyre
is as worthless as a screen door in a submarine
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 3:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn.
'Nuff said.

by eamuscatuli1881 on Jun 30, 2007 3:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what the
HELL.
Cubs win! Cubs win! Holy cow!

by McNally on Jun 30, 2007 3:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

eyre..
its called having an effective inning where you don't give up a run..try it sometime!
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 3:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the part of scott eyre
will be played by a frankling batting tee.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 3:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

looks like
eyre won't be lasting very long either.
Cubs win! Cubs win! Holy cow!

by McNally on Jun 30, 2007 3:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

35 pitches and counting
please just DFA him..
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It baffles me
why he is still on the roster.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Jun 30, 2007 3:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well
Just got home from work...be thankful that this can only be one loss at worst. The Brewers have just brought out the bats like crazy today, and Marshall's ever so slightly off. It's that old Yogiism: Good hitting always beats good pitching, and vice versa.

But who knows? Stranger things have happened. (see June 23, 1984)

"And heeeere cooome the pretzels!"

by NightPutting on Jun 30, 2007 3:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If only
I watched June 23, 1984 on that new Cubs DVD set and man, was it sweet.

If we could do that again.  We need an explosion.

by wjblol on Jun 30, 2007 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Leave Eyre in?
Do you think the Cubs will come back and win?  If so, do you go through the whole bullpen again?  Or, if you think they won't come back, leave Eyre in to "take one for the team" and save the bullpen?
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)

by cubfred on Jun 30, 2007 3:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
he needs to pitch another inning. Too bad, I was hoping to see jj pitch
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Jun 30, 2007 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL
So he can kill the worms between the mound and home plate, seeing as most of them died in the outfield along time ago.

by BlueSox on Jun 30, 2007 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have noticed....
Our soft tossin lefties really seem to work well against some teams and really get rocked against others (brewers, dodgers, etc) I really think that we were outmatched today. Just outmatched. The best answer, after yesterday, we have in the pen is Eyre and he needs to go.

If it is any consolation, they should only get 1 in the next inning, based on the pattern. 4, 3, 2,....

by louslovechild on Jun 30, 2007 3:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Man....
...listening to Hughes and Santo, they've pretty much written off this game. They also realize that there aren't many bullpen options today. Eyre's likely going back out for at least another inning.

After yesterday, nothing's impossible, but doing large comebacks every day is not real practical.

Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jun 30, 2007 4:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Eyre....
....having met and talked with him for a little bit, I like the guy. I feel bad for him. But however it happened, he's lost it on the mound this year.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jun 30, 2007 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

one thing's for sure...
that guy doctor's the hell out of the ball. i don't know if he's trying to get an edge cause he is having a tough year or if he always did it and i just didn't notice, but he rubs the back of his hands like crazy, obvious suntan lotion (or something like it) use. and he still can't get anyone out.
I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 30, 2007 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gutless
Where were Marshall and Eyre when Soriano got smoked by Hudson?  With all the wailing and whining in the aftermath of that, Hudson did the right thing when he drilled Soriano.  So now, Milwaukee is teeing off at will, Fielder taking ridiculous hacks on 0-2 and 1-2, and still not one pitch that has backed anyone off the plate.  Of course, it may be a little late today, but someone, anyone should go down on Milwaukee's team.  It's pretty ridiculous seeing major league pitchers, or the semblance of them anyways, that don't know how to play the game.  Back them off the plate for goodness sake.  If they get hit, too damn bad.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. -- Lee Constantine Elia, 1983.

by krummy12 on Jun 30, 2007 4:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i couldn't agree more
the swings fielder is taking are just begging for a little chin music and what's up with weeks stealing abse with a big lead? someone needs to run a couple up an in to these bush league youngsters
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That makes perfect sense
and thus it absolutely will not happen.
"And heeeere cooome the pretzels!"

by NightPutting on Jun 30, 2007 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow
cubs are going to need a CG tomorrow with the way the 'pen's gonna get worked today
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

J Marquis = not a chance
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Jun 30, 2007 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah...
that was kinda my point. marshall screwed the pooch today.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mean
This is much closer to the real Marshall. Expect more of this. And Eyre? What is it going to take to dump this guy. I'd pay the Brewers to take him.

by BringBackRyno on Jun 30, 2007 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey jones k's!!
 again..
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 4:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I miss Len and Bob
"Chicago Cubs fans are ninety percent scar tissue."

by northofwrigley on Jun 30, 2007 4:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

stop the presses
soriano just walked.
Cubs win! Cubs win! Holy cow!

by McNally on Jun 30, 2007 4:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

good, sori
We need baserunners to even have a chance.

by elgato on Jun 30, 2007 4:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank You So Much!
Even though were getting killed its nice to hear. Thanks!
Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jun 30, 2007 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...
With Marquis going tomorrow, we could be in trouble of losing a series we really needed to win.

by Rogue 52 on Jun 30, 2007 4:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

But Brewers are going with Bush
Who is their weakest link. We were VERY lucky to win yesterday
I honestly did not hold out much chance of beating Sheets but was not expecting a slaughter. At this point if Marquis gets through the first tomorrow and gives up FEWER than 4 runs he will be the best starter of the series.
"It's the Cubbies. There's always a vibe. It's the greatest vibe in baseball." Greg Maddux on Cub fan's optimism even after the 06 debacle.

by jessica on Jun 30, 2007 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree
as i posted above, i feel horrible when his schedule in the rotation is up. and to think we have 2.5 more years of him...ugh

by bennyha on Jun 30, 2007 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

come on
d-lee!
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and Derrek Lee
doesn't contribute again..
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 4:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

piss poor
inning by the offense. thanks for coming in today, guys.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

With all the bullpen problems we've had..
this year, they have come through in many situations (minus FATAIR).

The starting pitching on the other hand has not been very clutch.

by Rogue 52 on Jun 30, 2007 4:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

how
do you go from 46 homers a couple years ago to be on pace to have under 15

by cubsfan9393 on Jun 30, 2007 4:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you break your wrist
and sit out nearly an entire year.
I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 30, 2007 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well
there's that, and then there's the sammy sosa way... but i am in no way supporting the hypothesis that d-lee was on the roids.  he did break his wrist, and then there's his personal issues that cropped up in the past year.
Cubs win! Cubs win! Holy cow!

by McNally on Jun 30, 2007 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Think he's hiding something?
Or the neck issue is still lingering?

by Arbusto on Jun 30, 2007 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that
shouldn't take away all your power.

by cubsfan9393 on Jun 30, 2007 4:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

it didn't take away all his power...
did you see the ball he hit in spring training; it was crushed. he has lost his power stroke, and he has certainly lost some of his opposite field power. since he mostly gets pitched away, he's not pulling the ball with authority. it's a shame, but what can you do. he is still very valuable, and i'm glad we have him.

however, it would be nice to be able to slip griffey jr. in the 3 hole and move dlee to 5th or 2nd.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 30, 2007 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thank god for ramirez yesterday
or we would be looking a sweep in the face. that walk off was huge. we'll have a chance at winning the series tomorrow, which would be satisfactory, but tomorrow becomes very important.

man, the brewers are a really good ballclub. it's going to be really hard to catch them unless they get hit with a few big injuries. right now, they are a better team than the cubs, and the cubs look great. the brewers just look scary, no wonder they seem to win nearly every night.

I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 30, 2007 4:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF?
they just stole another base!
Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jun 30, 2007 4:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

this stolen base thing
with a big lead is some bush league bullshit. someone better get frickin' beaned for this crap. freaking bush league bullcrap.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

anybody else ...
think we should trade for another starter? The rotation seems to be slowly fading (except for Z). I would love to see Hendry go after Buehrle or Contreras.

I like our lineup and I actually think our pen is going to be fine (except for Eyre).

by elgato on Jun 30, 2007 4:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Buerhle- Yes, Contrearas- NO
Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jun 30, 2007 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why?
And what about Vazquez?

by elgato on Jun 30, 2007 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if the cubs trade for
contreras, i will become a cardinals fan. he got friggin rocked by the almighty KC royals last night and his fastball topped out at 90. couldn't get the forkball across at all. he's old and bad. buerhle won't pitch for the cubs and reinsdorf would never trade him over here anyway. not to mention that buerhle's ERA in wrigley is over 5.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why ...
wouldn't buerhle pitch for the cubs?

by elgato on Jun 30, 2007 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he hates
the cubs and has said so many times on the radio here in town. he grew up a cardinals fan and has always played for the sox. it's understandable. i just think he would really fight a trade to the cubs.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hopefully
hill told eyre to lob one in at weeks for that base-stealing crap.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL
comment of the day!
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and
we killed him
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow
hearing talk about getting another starter made me think how long it's been since we've heard anything on prior.  and there have only been minor updates on wood!  cubs.com is finally realizing that we don't want to hear it.
Cubs win! Cubs win! Holy cow!

by McNally on Jun 30, 2007 4:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Prior = Done; K wood = Done (probably)
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Jun 30, 2007 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's to....
an inning in which the Brew Crew didn't score...

by cavebear on Jun 30, 2007 4:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nice
cory hart pulls a brant brown. let's go cubbies!
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

RAMRIEZ!!!!
this could get things going??
Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jun 30, 2007 4:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

we're gonna need a few sick innings
who knows? stranger things...
I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 30, 2007 4:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

fielder
that big + that quick = that suspicious
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

bean him next time
bean him in the wrist..
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cmon mark!
at least we can make it close, maybe?
Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jun 30, 2007 4:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just remember who we have coming up after this
Nats, and Pirates!
Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jun 30, 2007 4:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i'm seeing Z pitch against Washington
got dugout seats..pretty excited, hopefully a W
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And, conversely, the Brewers get...
... the Pirates and the Nats

by NTNgod on Jun 30, 2007 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

derosa
is having a nice AB
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

atleast he took 13 pitches to do it
unlike Lee
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Strike Out
ughhh
Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jun 30, 2007 4:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We still have a chance to win the series at least.
Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jun 30, 2007 4:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and Izturis does what he does best
not hit anything..
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 4:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

why
does izturis even bring a bat to the plate. paul bako was a more dangerous hitter.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Runner at third
Nobody out.  Can't even get the ball out of the infield.  Sound familiar?
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)

by cubfred on Jun 30, 2007 4:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm realizing
that the win streak has to come to an end sometime. Just start a new one tommorow.
Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jun 30, 2007 4:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

well, tough day.
can't be disappointed with this club though. get them tomorrow, then tear up the nats and the pirates. time for a nap.
I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 30, 2007 4:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Since were getting killed, Im gunna pose a ?
do you like our Road hats with the Red bills, or the Home hats with the blue bills better?

I personally like the Red Bills.

Im wearing it right now :)

Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jun 30, 2007 4:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

blue
cubbie blue. never really took to the two-tone hats, but, to each his own.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see your point
I guess I just like the two tone.
Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jun 30, 2007 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rocky Cherry
I new he was recalled.  Who went down or on the DL?
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)

by cubfred on Jun 30, 2007 4:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Petrick
was sent back down.
Men who whine are so unattractive. This place is full of them.

by sue369 on Jun 30, 2007 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which postition player pitches the 9th
and maybe the 8th. The Cubs have  no days off till the AS break
and their BP is wasted so who wants to try pitching? My vote is
DeRosa since he likes to play so  many positions. Did any of the
postion players pitch in HS. Maybe we are going to find out
"It's the Cubbies. There's always a vibe. It's the greatest vibe in baseball." Greg Maddux on Cub fan's optimism even after the 06 debacle.

by jessica on Jun 30, 2007 4:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i say
we bring in dascenzo to pitch the 9th
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah
i remember zim walking to the mound and bringing in little doug dascenzo. tear
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please. no.....
....I hate it when teams do that. Make some pitcher take one for the team instead. Inevitably someone always hurts an arm or does something stupid.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jun 30, 2007 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dascenzo's
an retired cub player who came into to pitch a couple blowut games in '89 and, i think, '90. it got to be a euphemism with me an my buddies when a game got ugly to call for douggie dascenzo.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!
We used to say at least we're not pitching Dougie!

by Tangled Up In Blue on Jun 30, 2007 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol
that works, too! those games were kind of the gold standard of bad.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If that is what you think
Then I change my vote to JJ
"It's the Cubbies. There's always a vibe. It's the greatest vibe in baseball." Greg Maddux on Cub fan's optimism even after the 06 debacle.

by jessica on Jun 30, 2007 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lmao
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

U-G-L-Y game
Men who whine are so unattractive. This place is full of them.

by sue369 on Jun 30, 2007 4:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fontenont can hit
bit he needs to work on his defense.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Jun 30, 2007 4:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Getting spanked
Well that's OK - at least all the problems are in one game rather than spread out over 4-5.  Fontenot and DeRosa can be forgiven since they've done such a great job so far.  Intersting that our newest starting pitchers have tanked.  Brewers pitching coach know something.  Marquis needs to be aware of that.

by coral on Jun 30, 2007 4:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

who's the
brewers pitching coach? mike MADDUX. greg taught sean and rich everything they know. sure he knows something. also, the brewers can hit.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that is my point
I thought everyone knew the Maddux connection

by coral on Jun 30, 2007 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't know
it always seem to surprise people when i bring it up, but marshall and hill were both just flat more than guys coming up there sitting on good pitches.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yea
I e mailed Al directly that this and yesterday where Greg's doing
Let's see Sean Marshall is his prize pupil from the Cubs and he has saidthat  he and Mike give each other info on any players other than those on their own team. It is not personal but blood is thicker than friendship and they are VERY close brothers
Um kind of scary that Marquis is another one of his former prize pupils but at least they were not on the same team last year.

Doubt it matters but I have a feeling Madog was none to happy with how the Cubs handled Barrett.

"It's the Cubbies. There's always a vibe. It's the greatest vibe in baseball." Greg Maddux on Cub fan's optimism even after the 06 debacle.

by jessica on Jun 30, 2007 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm posting this...
... in the recap since it got sort of buried here, and it's about the only way I can make something out of this boring, one-sided mess.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 30, 2007 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if sammy were here
he would most assuredly hit a solo homer in this inning.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Z
why wouldn't we have tried to make it so that Z could have pitched in this series?  Lou is going to make it so he can pitch in the All-star

by coral on Jun 30, 2007 4:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Z
hasn't always pitched real well against milwaukee and i think lou wants him to head into the ASB with a nice string of quality starts.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn't have worked
Thursday off-day meant that Zambrano would be getting two extra days of rest if he started Friday.

That often can screw up a pitcher's routine, and is rarely done with a healthy pitcher that isn't the last guy in the rotation..

by NTNgod on Jun 30, 2007 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and now lou
is punting the game. d-lee and rammy are on the bench.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

soriano too
i don't like this. they should never give up.....

by anormal on Jun 30, 2007 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well
i think this is sort of a "fuck you" to yost for continuing to steal bases and shit with a big lead. sort of like lou saying, "screw it, we can still win the series tomorrow. let 'em have this one."
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ummmmm.....
you would think that coming back to win (or even making it close) would say "fuck you" a lot better than laying down and giving up....

by anormal on Jun 30, 2007 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why not?
Rest them now and we'll get them tomorrow.

Hopefully Marquis won't suck out loud.

by wjblol on Jun 30, 2007 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WTF!
if this game is going to be ugly i guess the cubs might as well get all the bad out of there system now while the brewers are knocking all the hits out of their bats.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 4:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

let everyone play
gotta throw in the towel for this one...and i didn't think we would continue to win every game the entire season..
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 4:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

anything but good baseball
coming from the home team today
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

turn it off
Go to a  casino and come back for tomorrow's game
"It's the Cubbies. There's always a vibe. It's the greatest vibe in baseball." Greg Maddux on Cub fan's optimism even after the 06 debacle.

by jessica on Jun 30, 2007 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe you
There is a very funny bit in Tom Boswell's long profile of Maddux
in 1998 where he says the one thing that can say to get him to break his famously calm and quiet persona is to question why he lives in such a showy & artificial place as Vegas. Maddux angrily responds that Vegas is just like any othe place with parks, churches , little league and Denny's ( I always thought th Denny's bit was a hoot) I will assume you and Madog live in the Vegas nobody but its residents really see.

Um should ever bump into him at Denny's give him my regards

"It's the Cubbies. There's always a vibe. It's the greatest vibe in baseball." Greg Maddux on Cub fan's optimism even after the 06 debacle.

by jessica on Jun 30, 2007 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Odd
It seems like all the Brew Crew Ball folks do is read BCB.

One of us says Fielder is fat and they go and PMS on their open thread.

by wjblol on Jun 30, 2007 4:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

how come Pie is in LF
why not move Floyd to LF, Jones to RF, and Pie to CF?
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 4:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

probably
showcasing JJ's skills in center for trades.

Question is, why not switch Floyd and Pie?

by elgato on Jun 30, 2007 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woooooo!!!!!!
here comes the comeback
If Jesus went to college these days, he would go to Notre Dame

by NDcubsfan on Jun 30, 2007 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok
2 runs
If Jesus went to college these days, he would go to Notre Dame

by NDcubsfan on Jun 30, 2007 4:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hey 10-4!
come back, huh?
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 4:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Z
can get a hold of one =)

by Tangled Up In Blue on Jun 30, 2007 5:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Z
pinch-hitting! lou is really trying to embarass the brewers. somebody may get beaned tomorrow. lou seems really ticked.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 5:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No bench left
Only Bowen was available

by NTNgod on Jun 30, 2007 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah
i realize that, but lou was hot in the dugout after that last SB. he could've pinch hit bowen and given hill some rest. that guys had a long day with the long innings the brewers have had. i think that was at least half a very purposeful act.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let him
Our regulars get some rest and we can really rebound tomorrow.

by wjblol on Jun 30, 2007 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Z
It's not a question of embarrassing the Brewers.  It's a long season.  Ramirez has a tender knee.  If you feel that you're not going to win, nobody goes 162-0, Give the knee some rest and play him tomorrow.

Pie?  It gives Lou a chance to see how Felix plays a corner outfield spot.

Is Lou ticked?  Probably disgusted and disappointed.  Throwing at Brewers hitters?  Not now.  And given MLB's attitude toward the Cubs of later, probably 10 games for the pitcher and Lou. Get even the best way.  Run it up on them tomorrow.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)

by cubfred on Jun 30, 2007 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're
probably right
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WTF
NOW froemming wants to be a thorough umpire? after last night's shenanigans!? what a total asswipe. umpires should never show up players like that. this guy is hard on.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 5:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ANNNNNNDDD
now we know why scottie pippen never pursued a career as a musician. ye gods.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 5:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Grace's
comments on Froemming, priceless!
"He's tired from running all the way out there."
LOL!

by Tangled Up In Blue on Jun 30, 2007 5:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

froemming
tires playing checkers
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HA HA!
Playing checkers and eating Double QPC's isn't as easy as one would think...

by Tangled Up In Blue on Jun 30, 2007 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i ordered
a double QPC once and had to take a break halfway through. it was awful. i broke out in a meat sweat and everything.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Meat Sweats" CLASSIC!
Between the Double QPC and a Monster Burger, you have to cancel any plans you have for the rest of the afternoon to deal with the aftermath. Nasty stuff.

by Tangled Up In Blue on Jun 30, 2007 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ain't that
the truth. i almost had to call a plumber...for myself, not the toilet.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On options
Responding to Jessica's post above, the Cubs are not using up options on pitchers by sending them up and down.  Players have a given number of option years.  If you use an option on a player even once, it costs the option for that year.  After that, you can send him up and down to the minors as many times as you want, and you've only lost one option.  In other words, Ben Petrick still has two option years left.  
The call of the Cub fan, c. 1893: "one long, ravaged, derisive yell...a cyclonic whoop!"

by zambranofan on Jun 30, 2007 5:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, these announcers are bad
Mark Grace: Theriot and Fontenot both played for LSU, both drafted by the same organization, and called up together.  Ummm...no!  Fontenot was drafted by the Orioles and acquired in the Sosa trade.

Matt Vasgersian:  Here's Soriano up at the plate...oh, it's Felix Pie.  Ben Sheets and Brett Favre both grew up in Louisiana and starred in Wisconsin...oh, Favre grew up in Mississippi?  Whoops.

The call of the Cub fan, c. 1893: "one long, ravaged, derisive yell...a cyclonic whoop!"

by zambranofan on Jun 30, 2007 5:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah
grace is becoming the brian baldinger of FOX baseball
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I finally know who Pie reminds me of...
Shawon Dunston!!! If you don't want his speed on the basepads just throw him some pitches in the dirt and let him take some hacks. I knew that this kid looked familiar!!

by ArmyCubFan on Jun 30, 2007 5:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

2 innings of bats left, down by 7
Don't give up yet cubbie faithful!

by GoCubbies34 on Jun 30, 2007 5:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

haha
Bring back the damn cowbell!

by CubsBall2202 on Jun 30, 2007 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

without Eyre's first inning
its 5 runs and one earned run..not bad..
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 5:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

how many times
have you seen a team get theis many hit, score this many runs, and come out the next day completely flat? hope that happens to the brew crew tomorrow.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 5:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Cubs ..
Tattoo'd the Mets 10-1, and lost the next game 8-1.

by wjblol on Jun 30, 2007 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly
but dave bush is pitching tomorrow and he's nasty. cubs would be real lucky to get 8
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you serious?
dave bush definetely isnt nasty, hes their weak link for pitching and if im not mistaken weve beaten him around a couple times pretty badly this year
Bring back the damn cowbell!

by CubsBall2202 on Jun 30, 2007 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bush
has had some problems this year, but he's got pretty good stuff, but the cubs generally do hit him pretty well.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

at least he isn't Sheets
"It's the Cubbies. There's always a vibe. It's the greatest vibe in baseball." Greg Maddux on Cub fan's optimism even after the 06 debacle.

by jessica on Jun 30, 2007 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dang it!! homerun Braun!
game over!!
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 30, 2007 5:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Game Over?
Where is Jim Mora when you want him?
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)

by cubfred on Jun 30, 2007 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

arrrggghh
that braun is a helluva ballplayer. they've got a good one there. hope they've got all the offense out fo their system today. BTW, sheets threw WAAAAYY over 100 pitches today. not good for a guy who's had extensive shoulder an elbow problems. seems ned yost is from the dusty baker school of starting pitcher abuse.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 5:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sheets
Sheets was cruising the last few innings, and was showing no loss of location or velocity, or change in mechanics.

Not all pitch counts are equal.  Pitching from the windup in a blowout is a much different situation from pitching from the stretch in a close game, where there's a lot of pressure, each pitch is important, etc...

by NTNgod on Jun 30, 2007 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah
that's true, but 124 pitches for a guy who's had the arm problems that sheets has is never a good thing.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

braun
is going to be really, really good. the brewers are going to be tough for many years to come. a good portion of their players came up through their stystem so you have to give them kudos for that. i guess after sucking and not having a winning record for something like 13 years they were due for a good year

by bennyha on Jun 30, 2007 5:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

fortunately
 the cubs don't have this problem, but how will the brewers afford the payroll it's going to take to keep just that infield in town? braun, hardy, weeks, and fielder around the horn is a mighty, mighty expensive group in a couple of years...agreed on braun. what a nice swing he's got.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

finally
the end has come. that was rough. get 'em tomorrow, though.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 5:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Am I paranoid
Why do Matt Vasgersian and Mark Grace hate the Cubs? Am I paranoid? But it doesn't affect us, and it just makes them sound bad.

by wenya on Jun 30, 2007 5:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i hate vasgersian, i love gracie from the cubs
but hes just not a good broadcaster
Bring back the damn cowbell!

by CubsBall2202 on Jun 30, 2007 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?
No late inning comeback?

by vegascubsfan on Jun 30, 2007 5:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Eh, some days
they have it and some days they don't. Today they didn't. I would be happy with 2 out of 3 this weekend.
Men who whine are so unattractive. This place is full of them.

by sue369 on Jun 30, 2007 6:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

well
momma said there will be days like this. we got blistered today. forget it and start a new streak tommorrow. go cubbies
Here comes the nasty leftie to shut it down in the 9th......Clay Rapada!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jun 30, 2007 6:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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