Double Plays? Doubles! Toil? No Trouble!, and Open Thread: Cubs vs. Dodgers, Thursday 9/6, 1:20 CT
by Al Yellon on Sep 6, 2007 8:48 AM CDT
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PrintMark DeRosa bounced into a double play in the first inning -- the team's ninth DP of the series -- and I said to our little band in the LF corner, "Didn't we see this game last night?"
Turned out we hadn't, as the Cubs smacked out five doubles, drew six walks, had a HR from Aramis Ramirez (his 20th -- incidentally, the last time the Cubs were led in HR by someone who hit fewer than 30, in a non-strike season, was in 1992, when Ryne Sandberg led the club with 26), a solid pitching performance by Ted Lilly, and beat the Dodgers 8-2, holding on to their tenuous half-game lead in the NL Central over the Brewers, and extending their lead over the third-place Cardinals to two games after St. Louis lost to Pittsburgh, also 8-2. (Thanks, Pirates, for winning two of the first three. Go get 'em today, and then please leave your winning shoes in St. Louis.)
All of this was after a nasty little rainstorm hit the area around Wrigley Field, including drenching rain with thunder and lightning, just as the ballpark gates were opening at 5:05. It blew through in about thirty minutes and had the ground crew scrambling to put the tarp on; the Cubs were already in the middle of batting practice. (Bad news: there's a 70% chance of rain this afternoon.)
Ted Lilly didn't have his best stuff, and the Dodgers kept pecking away, getting one hit in each of the first four innings. Each time the Cubs got out of it, in the third with a wacky play when a ball bounced off Aramis Ramirez, right into the glove of Ronny Cedeno at shortstop. In the second inning Shea Hillenbrand, who has about as much business trying to steal second base as I do, was caught stealing, and in the third, he was called out on strikes. (Thanks, Grady, for sitting Andy LaRoche last night!)
The Cubs nursed their lead into the seventh, when pinch-hitter Olmedo "No-Parking" Saenz doubled in Mike Lieberthal, who had drawn a two-out walk (don't you hate those?) off Lilly. Carlos Marmol didn't seem to have his best stuff either last night, but recovered to get Rafael Furcal to pop up to end that inning. Saenz' double went over the head of Felix Pie, who slipped and fell on the wet grass in center field.
On it went into the 8th, the Cubs hanging on to that 4-2 lead, with Ryan Dempster warming up for a save opportunity.
And then the Cubs exploded and made a no-brainer out of it, a no-brainer I presume they all badly wanted and needed. The bottom of the 8th must have gone on for about 30 minutes -- I didn't time it, but it felt even longer -- and included two walks, two doubles, three singles, a hit batter, a ball thrown by Jeff Kent into about the third row behind the first base dugout, and two mid-inning pitching changes.
This gave some of the fans sitting a little closer to Dodgers LF Andre Ethier time to harass him further. Either they misread the name on his shirt or were trying to give him digs deliberately, because they were calling him "ETHER" and chanting his name in the sarcastic sing-songy way that you've probably heard many times ("EEEE-ther! "EEEE-ther!") To his credit, Ethier was a good sport about it -- maybe a bit more, as at one point I spotted him covering his face with his glove so that no one would see him laughing.
Cub fans are laughing this morning. Nice win. Keep up the good work today. The only NL games today are Cubs/Dodgers and Pirates/Cardinals, both afternoon games, so the Cubs have a chance to pick up a game on St. Louis again.
Sat with the San Diego Smooth Jazz Man again, and also brfry81, someone who says he reads BCB every day but doesn't post much, and his brother. Nice to meet you guys, and also had a brief conversation with BCB reader NO100, who stopped by in the later innings to say hi.
Onward. Hold the rain off till about 4:00, please.
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Derek Lowe is 1-1, 3.58 vs. the Cubs in his career. The one win was this one-hit shutout on August 31, 2005. Fortunately, of the Cubs position players who played that day, only Derrek Lee, Matt Murton and Ronny Cedeno are still on the team, and Lee is 9-for-20 with a double and a HR lifetime off Lowe.
Today's game is cable-only in LA and Chicago, and also at today's Mediacenter link.
MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)
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My 3 wishes for today
- This game gets played.
- Lou FINALLY drops Soriano to 3rd or 5th
- W baby W!!!
by EliasTirade on Sep 6, 2007 8:54 AM CDT reply actions
Revamp the batting order!!
Theriot
DeRosa
Soriano
Aramas
Lee
Ward
Kendall/Soto
Monroe (cf)
Pitcher
by Ihatethecards on Sep 6, 2007 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Nuts!
Actually moving DeRosa to the two hole was a good option yesterday and resting Theriot was good. I don't see Piniella changing the lineup this time of year significantly except with Theriot or the platoon system in the OF.
More importantly was the hitting and catching of Soto.
All I can say is
Anyone that still wants Monroe in center after last night must have been watching Lifetime instead of the game. An outfield of Soriano-Monroe-Ward will give up a run a game, at least.
by lancaster99 on Sep 6, 2007 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes his defensive play was scary
I know
by Ihatethecards on Sep 6, 2007 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Jones was pretty darn good out there
But PLEASE!!!! NO MORE WARD IN RF. PLEASE. For the love of god. PLEASE. That fata55 can't get to anything out there.
GEES
by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 6, 2007 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
WHAT'S BCC?
by Kinky Reggae on Sep 6, 2007 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
For someone that hates the cards
Here is the order of preferred Center Fielders:
- Jones - a revelation defensively, and righting his ship offensively.
- Pie - simply a joy to watch play the field
- Murton - Can't be worse than Monroe
- Soriano - Can't be worse than Murton
- Steve Bartman - We know he can knock balls back into the field of play.
- Ron Santo.
- Len Kasper
- Craig Monroe
by lancaster99 on Sep 6, 2007 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
WHAT??
by Kinky Reggae on Sep 6, 2007 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Are you joking?
by cubsfan4life on Sep 6, 2007 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
CF
since we were playing create-a-lineup
Kendall
Soriano
Lee
Ramirez
Floyd
DeRosa
Jones
Theriot and Derosa for Hitting Coaches
Got to love guys who dont try to pull every pitch.
Hit it where its pitched and where they aint
Soto
I agree.
Actually I think Soto might get the starts
Regardless potentially we are seeing the next long term starter behind the plate.
Yo Al.
Did Monroe look as uncomfortable in center field as he did on TV? I know he was playing too deep ( The Brant Brown center field as I like to call it) but he didn't seem to pick up the ball very well at all I thought.
Yes.
Monroe, so far, is a dissappointment
You are expecting too much
In an emergency I can see Monroe in CF but it appears he is a corner OF'er. He is adjusting and trying to contribute outside his comfort level.
re: You are expecting too much
I've seen him hit a lot of balls hard and draw a few walks. His defense is nothing to write home about -- and I'd defintely prefer not to see him play centerfield. But I don't have a problem with him playing right (he certainly can't do worse there than Floyd, Ward or Murton), and I'm still optimistic about Monroe being a strong bat down the stretch against left-handed pitching.
What a relief
Al
I'm working on this right now.
Here you go.
Don't forget to click on the image (in Firefox) or on the bottom right corner of the image (in IE) to expand it to its full size.
re: Here you go.
Very impressive...
That thing is great!
by John Q Freejazz on Sep 6, 2007 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
THANKS AL!
Dan
Thanks for all the compliments!
Awesome
by hawkeyenation on Sep 6, 2007 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Scorecards
Thanks, Al
Let's get that W today!
Two points
Second, it was my first time watching Soto catch. He seemed to do a very poor job of framing close pitches. Not only did he fail to frame them in the strike zone, on more than one occasion he caught some close pitches with his glove moving away from the strike zone. Does anyone know if this has been a problem with him, or was last night more a result of catching someone who he is unfamiliar with and who may not have had his best control?
Stults
Not so difficult, really. Wish for him to tear up the entire league for his entire career and lose to the Cubs every time he faces them. He still gets a nice overall record and we still do well.
sure,
It was just an overall reminder to me that each player out there is a human being with families and friends wishing the best for them.
Soto's Framing, Catching
As the PCL player of the year this year, Soto put up some amazing numbers. If he comes close to the year he had this year in AAA ever again in the majors, he'll please Cubs fans for years to come. 26 HR, 106rbi, 31doubles, .353ba, .424obp !
What a gem we have as a prospect, Cubs Fans!!
The only thing that scares me:
Then, they get here, and can't hit a lick.
- sigh -
IF Soto can keep his head above water for the rest of 2007, he'll get a giant head start on a full-time MLB gig next year.
I mean LOOK who we have NOW. A neck-injured Hank White, and Jason K, who is at the end of his career (let's be honest). It would be so cool if Kendall, when he retired, would work with our catchers in a coaching capacity.
So until this season, Soto has not lived up to expectations. But maybe he has figured some things out. We sure could use him.
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh, Sue!
But that's just me!
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd have to agree with you.
by cubsfan4life on Sep 6, 2007 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
But if you
Soto Can't Hit?
Hitting catchers as thin as they are in the major leagues, we should be jumping for joy at the value of Geo. We have an excellent hitting catcher for years to come.
I think it comes down to everyday playing time, and with that real talent shines. Watch next year, when he gets the starting job, he'll be the everyday #6 and eventually #5 in the lineup.
Argos
by jimhickman on Sep 6, 2007 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Did he go to Argos?
The Indiana state tournament
Now that Illinois is going to four classes, I fear it's going to happen here, too.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 6, 2007 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
by jimhickman on Sep 6, 2007 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Stults Big Bat
Soto
Either way.....his has some pop it appears.
Soto had a great % in throwing out base stealers
A helluva lot better than Kendall's 1 for 37 (or whatever he is).
Sticking to their pattern...
In August Cubs lost bad to Philadelphia, (10-6) and then lost to the Mets before winning the next game. Unfortuntately later in August they lost big again to CO and continued into a losing 3 more games. In the first half the Cubs lost alot but not really bad except to Florida late in May (9-0) where they lost two more before turning the season around.
Independent to that I noticed that overall the Cubs focused as a team last night. Lilly focused on each pitch as a veteran is expected. Cedeno, how he hits AAA pitchers so well played very well at SS and Monroe should have made two catches but in reality didn't hurt the game, and did better at the plate. Soto hit the ball with real authority and threw out an errand delayed steal, made a good catch on a tough pop up, he has a future with this organization.
Today Cubs put forward Marquis, probably the best signing as far as value by any of the FA signings last year. Cubs will need to bring the same effort today and beat Lowe & the Dodgers and even the series, and finish the homestand 6-4. Cubs only have 7 more home games left out 23.
They even out the games played with Milwaukee today and can put a full game between them and the Brewers who travel poorly on the road, thankfully facing Arroyo and Harang who match with Bush & Suppan the first two games and then Sheets goes against Belisle who is 7-8. In Pittsburgh Milwaukee also faces Gorzelany.
by the way,
I only know this because we just named our child Brant, and Brant Brown is the only other one we know with that name, so I was looking him up.
He's right.
yes, I will
We named our son Brant
child's name
So this is the rubber game
Another fascinating tidbit: the bottom of the 8th inning yesterday was only 28 minutes (and change) long.
Al
re: Al
Clever
The "YMCA" isn't for rallies...
Or how about Johnny Cash's
re: Clever
Maybe "Lights Out" by 70s-80s hard rockers UFO or, to do a little twist on Trevor Hoffman's "Hell's Bells," they could play "For Whom the Bell Tolls" by Metallica, which starts out the same way (with a tolling bell) but is way heavier.
And, yes, I do have too much time on my hands...
Good ideas
"Lights out - lights out in WRIGLEY..."
Has a ring to it, eh? lol
Gotta keep Jump
on that note
The only thing better:
Perfect
I can't beleive we won a game with Cedeno at SS
Now, let's not give him another start... OK Lou.
The man has a baseball IQ of zero, is a virtual error making machine at SS, and can't hit major league pitching.
LOL!!
My sentiments, too!
We dodged a bullet!
At least he didn't get on base so he could do something stupid!
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Damn Hendry and his "untouchable" status
Umm...
by big_lowitzki on Sep 6, 2007 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
His name came up in every trade rumor
And?
by big_lowitzki on Sep 6, 2007 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
As I posted last night...
I've had the pleasure (displeasure) of watching him pitch against the 2005 and 2006 Cubs (once against Mad-dog) and it is a challenge for the team to get the ball out of the IF when he's on.
Let's hope he had a bad night sleeping, or Ballhawk hits him with a Taxi door.
I'm also with some of you who wishes Lou would move Soriano to #5 in the lineup. Get OVER IT Sori!
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 10:26 AM CDT reply actions
Filthy, nasty...
by big_lowitzki on Sep 6, 2007 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
lineup...
theriot ss
lee 1b
ward rf
derosa 3b
jones cf
kendall c
fontenot 2b
marquis p
WARD IN RIGHT?
WTF LOU? You're killin me... and the pre-game buffet spread.
If that fata55 allows another extra-base hit, that my grandma could've caught, I'm gonna puke in a bag and send it to Lou in the mail.
I think you are going to see Piniella give a day
Cubs have a strong enough bench to do this.
That's fine.
Instead he pencils in the biggest defensive liability in the entire major leagues.
Great!
Rami needs to be in the lineup...period. Ward is fine subbing for Floyd or Monroe but cmon Lou!
by Kinky Reggae on Sep 6, 2007 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
If you wanna lefty in RF
Ward is a slow, fat, peice of crap... who will turn any one-hopper into RF into a extra bases...
and Floyd
since the ASB .277-.355-.361, 5 extra base hits in 83 AB's (that's Juan Pierre territory)
in August .250-.353-.341
by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 6, 2007 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
And the PENN QUAKER
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
re: lineup...
Go Cubs!
Ugh
by lancaster99 on Sep 6, 2007 11:38 AM CDT reply actions
Geovany Soto - freed
Kendall's been good with the Cubs offensively, but he's been a mess behind the plate (Barret-esque).
It was nice to see Geovany behind the plate and to see some power potential out of the C position as well. I'm not sure Geovany will ever be a star, but I do think he's a better option at C than Jason Kendall right now and I hope he gets more opportunities down the stretch to prove it
It's also been nice to see Murton a bit lately. He didn't have great "results" last night in particular but the AB's were VERY good, working counts and building the pitch count on the opposing pitcher. You'd think the .900+ OPS in the 2nd half would get him some more respect from Lou, but it just hasn't happened yet. Hopefully we'll see more of him in the 2nd half... i think its become quite clear he's the better option in RF as opposed to Cliff Floyd
by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 6, 2007 11:40 AM CDT reply actions
He let another one-hopper in the outfield
He does an excellent job at that. Excellent.
But hey
The problem is...
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
He still hits better than Floyd
by Kinky Reggae on Sep 6, 2007 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Fact suck...
Since 7/1/07 he has an OBP of .350.
I am baffled at how that can be considered an "automatic out." I am further baffled how a .360 OBP is at all similar to Pie's .271 OBP.
Keep making things up.
by big_lowitzki on Sep 6, 2007 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
OBP is a great stat...
244 AB
5 HR
39 RBI
9 2B
.385 SLG
I don't know how anyone can defend Floyd, that is pathetic for a 5 hitter.
Agreed
Not a position you want a black hole in either....
Yep
thats why
because it objectively corrects human error in memory
The Cubs arent good in RF by any means, but there are teams with far worse production
by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 6, 2007 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
If you had read my post
Plus, those stats you point out don't factor in the home park advantage. All things being equal, I would expect a right fielder in, say, SF to have less production than a right fielder who plays his home games at Wrigley.
One more thing, lose the condescending attitude, jackass.
Please stop
Good point
Today?
Hmmm...
Since August 1, here is Murton's line: .324/.377/.577
I guess you somehow get a .577 SLUG without driving the ball.
by big_lowitzki on Sep 6, 2007 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
He's
I wasn't defending...
by big_lowitzki on Sep 6, 2007 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude do you have multiple personalities?
I also think Murton is a better option. Which is it for you my man?
by Kinky Reggae on Sep 6, 2007 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
What?
Once again - I am not saying that Floyd is a good hitter, or even that he should be playing. I don't think that.
I am simply saying that he very far from being an automatic out. And he is NOWHERE close to the "automatic out" that Felix Pie is.
by big_lowitzki on Sep 6, 2007 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Keep in mind
If he were a regular player and kept this pace up then there would be no arguing that he is a decent offensive player. Like DLee mainatining his BA despite a power shortage this season. He plays almost all games and still hits above 300. Floyd plays MUCH less and has seemingly okay numbers but what are those numbers worth.
He steps to the plate, and there is a good chance that nothing comes from it. Period.
by Kinky Reggae on Sep 6, 2007 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
No
Now you really are making things up. I never once said Floyd's numbers were "wonderful," and never even implied anything close to that. I simply refuted your assertion that he is "almost" an "automatic out." If Floyd is "almost" an "automatic out," then what are Theriot and Soriano?
He steps to the plate, and there is a good change that nothings comes from it. Period.
But that simply is not true. And the numbers support it. He has a better OBP than most people on the team, meaning that he makes less outs, per at-bat, than most people on the team. Which means that there is a better chance that something "good" comes out of his at-bat than most of the people on the team.
But once again - I never even said Floyd was a decent offensive hitter. I simply said he was nowhere close to an "automatic out." And nowhere close to the "automatic out" that Felix Pie is.
by big_lowitzki on Sep 6, 2007 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Less outs per AB
Less out per AB for a man who plays 150 games a year means something. For a man who plays 81 games a season, the numbers are less telling. You do understand what I am saying right?
He is hotting close to the average as DeRosa, is he as quality a player as him? NO WAY. The numebrs mean a lot more if someone plays every day.
As for your statements, sorry if I read into it, more than there really was. I still think that he is almost a sure out, and if no out, his hits seem to be generally worthless.
As for my opinions being more important that your numbers, well I feel that in this case, my opinions reflect the truth more accurately than the numbers.
This reasoning is upside down
Ironically the chances are more in LF where Soriano has 13 assists.
You may not like Floyd, you may not like the platoon system, you may not like anything regarding RF but it is not an automatic out...
Oh okay..
The guy hasn't seen regular plate appearences for a long time and you keep plugging his freakin numbers!
His numbers don't mean shit if he plays evry 4th or 5th game if you ask me. The guy rolls over on balls, strikes out swinging and looking, and has not had a meaningful hit in almost a month.
His defense is suspect (to say the least!) and yet you continue to promote his play time. Gimme a break. You know what you can do with your "fact suck"?
If you think he deserves to play judging by his offense as a #5 hitter, you must be watching a different game.
by Kinky Reggae on Sep 6, 2007 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Its pretty simple...
Yet his OBP (i.e. the percentage of times he DOESN'T make outs) is .360, which is quite good.
Don't get me wrong - I think that Murton is a MUCH better option right now. And I don't think that Floyd has been much of a hitter this year. But he is simply not an automatic out.
by big_lowitzki on Sep 6, 2007 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
And you pointed out
Dude the guy has nothing left offensively, it is painfully obvious. The facts, in this case, IMO, don't mean a thing. The guy is one of the most inconsistent and unproductive hitters on the club.
by Kinky Reggae on Sep 6, 2007 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Right...
Yea... you are right... your opinion means much more than the actual facts.
by big_lowitzki on Sep 6, 2007 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
good one
that must have been too obvious though for you to see that through your unwarranted murton hatred.
Wow...
what?
but it also doesnt address the post at all.
VERY good?
The Matt Murton love society has reached a new level of absurdity.
I am not a member of
But as a 4th OF, used as a day off repl. or PH, he's o.k.
Certainly NOT an everyday guy, nor a "defensive replacement" (HA!)
I'm sure he works really hard since being sent to AAA, but he's got a lot of work yet to put in, imo.
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Murton
by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 6, 2007 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Like I said, new lows
Are you really trying to do this again?
Now, a while later, when Floyd has proven US right and YOU wrong about his skills being better than Murton, you simply drop that aspect of your argument out and continue to bash Murton.
Rather than a love fest for us, it seems more like Muton crossed you somehow and you are on a never ending bashfest. the kid has shown some power (VERY valuable I might add afew games back with the GW) and has hit pretty consistently during his AB's. One 0-3 night and you are back to saying he needs to be cut or sent down, or whatever?
GET OVER IT MAN! Lou will use who is productive as he sees it. If Murton plays, he thinks he deserves it, and he is the manager.
by Kinky Reggae on Sep 6, 2007 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey
Wait...
Second, you were the one whining a few weeks ago about how Murton doesn't work counts. I proved you wrong, and you didn't like that. But now he clearly worked the count last night, and you attack him for not getting hits.
Why don't you attack others when they have 0 for 3 games?
by big_lowitzki on Sep 6, 2007 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not attacking anyone
BTW
Ah yes...
Sorry - you all sound the same.
bragging?
feel free to read more carefully. I said the ABs were very good last night even though the results were not great. I said its been nice to see him play lately since he's clearly proven he's the better RF option than Cliff Floyd
it wasn't bragging about 3 AB's, it was a statement about how its nice to see the manager finally starting to figure out who the better player is
of course i can understand being so defensive after being proven so utterly wrong
by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 6, 2007 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Wrong?
Murton vs. Floyd
no matter what data we (others like myself) used to show you that Murton was a legitimate upgrade over Floyd you harped on Murton's 2007 stats saying that he clearly didnt deserve playing time over Floyd
by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 6, 2007 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
He doesn't
Look, I'm not gonna get into this with you. You're obviously trying to pick a fight for some reason. We clearly have differing opinions on this and we've been over it. In your mind you've proven something. Fine. I could care less. I think you understand very little about the game of baseball.
The only reason I responded to your post was to point out the absolute ridiculousness of saying that Murton had 3 VERY good AB's last night. That's just wrong.
great
so far from the guy who doesn't revert to name calling i'm a "condescending jackass" who "understands very little about the game of baseball"
good to know you're a man of your word
by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 6, 2007 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha ha
Just because I respond to something you say doesn't mean I'm "trolling" through your posts. I respond to many, many posters on this site, not just you. You've got quite the ego on you.
I love the Cajun Connection and DFA Ward...
Glad...
Jock actually has decent numbers against Lowe (8 for 27, 1 HR).
And Pie, with his wonderful line of .215/.271/.337, is probably the worst hitter on the Cubs right now.
by big_lowitzki on Sep 6, 2007 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
DFA WARD???
What has Pie shown to you at the plate that Jones hasnt?
DFA Ward...
While it is in limited at-bats (38), those are excellent numbers. And his overall season numbers aren't much worse:
.344/.441/.527 OPS: .968
That would lead the team if he had enough at-bats to qualify.
But sure - lets DFA the guy. The Cubs don't need any offensive help or anything.
by big_lowitzki on Sep 6, 2007 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
That's just was everyone else was calling him...
by Jerry Mumphrey on Sep 6, 2007 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Ward
DFA Ward...hope that was a joke because it is.
Yeah
GUARANTEED OUT!
Hello?
by hawkeyenation on Sep 6, 2007 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Ouch!
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup...
Remember it never hurts for us to use the wind in our advantage as well. Could be exactly what we need to break out of the offensive funk.
Cubs win 9-4 (Soriano has a HR, and Lee has a 3 Run HR)
Alright i have the Soriano HR!
murton in the last month
.911 ops
5 homers in 64 ab.
how people can still knock the guy is downright ridiculous. be a fan of your own efing team for goodness sake.
How baseballs have hit him in the chest this month
How many times has he gotten a hit with runners in scoring position (.190 or so)
Oh... I stand corrected.
ha sack man
by the way, that play that hit him in the chest saved a run.
You're unbelievable
again your inability to process information
I have a personal request.
Cards begin their collapse
So far Comcast Chicago
Crap! Just shut it off.
Red Flying Cockroaches and the Cap'n Hooks
God, that would just break my heart if the Feathery Twits would have to play ANOTHER doubleheader.
by lancaster99 on Sep 6, 2007 1:21 PM CDT reply actions
Feathery Twits
Gameday
by cajuncubbie on Sep 6, 2007 1:26 PM CDT reply actions
10 pitches for Marquis
by lancaster99 on Sep 6, 2007 1:30 PM CDT reply actions
SORIANO
LOL
My God
Soriano seems to be showing signs of heating up. Enjoy it.
by lancaster99 on Sep 6, 2007 1:34 PM CDT reply actions
Ward draws a walk.
Oh nevermind
Our best threat to steal a base
<sigh>
Santo says Ward was safe
Ward is a ridiculous baseclogger...
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 1:37 PM CDT reply actions
Ron also says his toupee looks good.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Besides the fact....
and he wasn't...
Look...I think Ron Santo was one of the best 3rd basemen of his era, but he happens to be one of the worst Radio guy of this one. IMHO.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
C'mon JJ
At least now we can't hit into a DP again
Ward gets on
Oh... he'll hit it alright
Ward needs to wear an ankle bracelet
Jones K's on a ball a foot outside the plate
1 single, 2 walks, 1 HR
by BringBackRyno on Sep 6, 2007 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
For the REST OF THE YEAR....
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 1:41 PM CDT reply actions
Wait till you watch him play RF!
ugh
Hope this wasn't the end of last night's rally
by cajuncubbie on Sep 6, 2007 1:42 PM CDT reply actions
Gonzalez's pic
They're only allowed to show
PNC Park
no comments on Marquis
We all know
im jokin
by Bricks and Ivy on Sep 6, 2007 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Not proud of this
My favorite part is when he rhymes, "admire, sir" with "Inqurier"
by lancaster99 on Sep 6, 2007 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
No hitter through 2!
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 1:48 PM CDT reply actions
Actually,
Cauconics
Remember when...
Cards and rain...
As a matter of fact...
No-no thru 3!
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 1:57 PM CDT reply actions
Good Marquis
If Marquis pitches a perfect game
great start for Marquis
by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 6, 2007 1:58 PM CDT reply actions
re: Oh please God
My grandma could've beat that throw
Even worse...
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
All right....
Get Ward out of the game right now!
Game thread
Ward grounded out and picked off ouch. DONT forget he is our most valuable hitter off the bench. Gees the guys is hitting upwards of .330 and you want him to walk the plank.
Is Floyd hurt again?
I feel like I should know this, but he's been injured so often I've kinda stopped keeping track.
HA!
DWard is a truly professional PH.
Signed for $1MM.
But - that is what he should be doing. Period.
With that said - I seem to remember a pretty nice Grand Slam he hit against our favorite team.
Right?
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Something about
by cubsfan4life on Sep 6, 2007 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
36 pitches through 4 Innings
Dodger hitters seem like
1-2-3 again
Marquis
keep rolling ground balls Jason!
by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 6, 2007 2:11 PM CDT reply actions
Long Way To Go.....
OMG,
by cubsfan4life on Sep 6, 2007 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
36 Pitches
WOW, 9 per inning!
Holey Aching Buoy?!
by BlueW on Sep 6, 2007 2:12 PM CDT reply actions
Perfection for the first 4!
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 2:13 PM CDT reply actions
They'e switched over to Vin Scully
Hows' bout some RUNS!!!
by BlueW on Sep 6, 2007 2:14 PM CDT reply actions
re: Vin Scully... What a pro.
Vin Scully vs. Stephen A. Smith
What the record for shortest 9 Inning game?
If this were last year...
Negativity?
How's that for negativity?
who do the spew crew play tomorrow?
Thanks! Hopefully Cincy can actually do something
Pitching matchups
Arroyo
Harrang
and
Dumatriat.
Scratch that
Probably the Reds three best pitchers.
Anyone watching on TV?
Ron and Pat (well more Pat) are trying their best to do so on the internet.
I know Marquis will not continue with this perfe..
Hendry
He said, "Son, you don't have to win every game 6-0. It's OK to win 6-4 too."
by lancaster99 on Sep 6, 2007 2:25 PM CDT reply actions
it always seems to happen like that,
damn
Marqui
OK, offense
Step it up and actually see and hit the ball.
And Ward, if you step more than three inches off the first base bag, you should be fined $100,000.
by lancaster99 on Sep 6, 2007 2:26 PM CDT reply actions
Let me guess
What I'd tell you guys
He ain't a crap-ass pitcher, and a stinkerballer!
The 1st inning was the time to take advantage and AGAIN they come up with only one run!
DAMMIT!
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 2:28 PM CDT reply actions
Though Lowe's history
Cool!
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Go to Vegas
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
He makes one mistake
Blame the offense for this one.
This is good Marquis.
by lancaster99 on Sep 6, 2007 2:31 PM CDT reply actions
Oh
He's pitching great and it's good to see.
phat
by phatass on Sep 6, 2007 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Who is "all over him"
They are: Pitt, D-Backs, and today!
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Does anyone give Vin Skull-cap
Let's DO This!!!
by BlueW on Sep 6, 2007 2:32 PM CDT reply actions
THE RIOT!
by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 6, 2007 2:33 PM CDT reply actions
awwww yeah...
Anyone ever notice how disproportionate
It reminds me of the MIB movies...
Wind blowin out liek crazy right now
D Lee said he always hits
by cubsfan4life on Sep 6, 2007 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Son-Of-A...
by BlueW on Sep 6, 2007 2:35 PM CDT reply actions
according to gameday...
by cubsirishkillme on Sep 6, 2007 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Ball 6 actually
The Cubs take themselves outta each AB by swinging at balls. A little batter pitch selection would force Lowe to put the ball over the plate.
love ward
by cubsirishkillme on Sep 6, 2007 2:37 PM CDT reply actions
I don't understand why...
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 2:37 PM CDT reply actions
DP me
by cubsirishkillme on Sep 6, 2007 2:39 PM CDT reply actions
damn
by cubsirishkillme on Sep 6, 2007 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
That wasn't executed...
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
good
by cubsirishkillme on Sep 6, 2007 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Jason...
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 2:40 PM CDT reply actions
It looked to me
Umps never call that
Is "Cowboy Joe"
He can't get out of the way of anything.
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
how the nervous nellies doing?
I like the Cubs chances
I was enjoying the absence
enjoy the tension, better than the disinterest or
Good god Cubs
C'mon now...
Sorry, Carl.
Not true to form, yet and its in the 7th!
AAArrrrggghhh!
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, with the wind
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
4 hits - 0 walks
Gotta give the national audience
A good LF might've caught that
A healthy LF
Lou painted himself
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 2:57 PM CDT reply actions
thats why i asked if marquis
I'm screaming at my computer right now
Another run
And us scoring 1 run...
Marquis had a good outing.
And if 1 more run...
reading's a skill
Did you already type that?
if one more score made it 3-1, then why would we need to score 4?
Remember reading, AND writing is a skill.
so the cubs can win 3-3?
A score of 3-1 us losing...
And yes, thank god.
Well....whatever...
We scored the 3 necessary runs to take the lead.
Marquis is now in line for the win.
And we save one bullpen pitcher.
Say it with me....Good move Lou.
I know it's not over yet, but right now...
What did he do
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Damnit Lou
7 innings 2 runs
re: 7 innings 2 runs
WHOAH!
Marquis
Bill Curtis
I was a kid
Bill Curtis
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Good outing by Marquis
Smoking in public buildings
If that's true...
by grogg2434 on Sep 6, 2007 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok Soriano...
by grogg2434 on Sep 6, 2007 3:12 PM CDT reply actions
cmon now
by cubsirishkillme on Sep 6, 2007 3:12 PM CDT reply actions
"a world wide cause"
Soriano HAS to have a productive at bat
Let's have a smart at bat here.
broxton looks like a
by cubsirishkillme on Sep 6, 2007 3:13 PM CDT reply actions
What does a "jag-off"
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Soriano
by mweil on Sep 6, 2007 3:13 PM CDT reply actions
I called it!!!!!
by mweil on Sep 6, 2007 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
damn. he's still swinging at junk.
It just started pouring out here by O'hare.
by cubsfan4life on Sep 6, 2007 3:15 PM CDT reply actions
ankiel homers again
And our friggin top prospects
And Sori DOES IT AGAIN!
SHUT THE F UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by cubsirishkillme on Sep 6, 2007 3:17 PM CDT reply actions
SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by cubsirishkillme on Sep 6, 2007 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
The new Soriano
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Seriously
by hawkeyenation on Sep 6, 2007 3:17 PM CDT reply actions
get marquis mark that win boys!
by cubsirishkillme on Sep 6, 2007 3:18 PM CDT reply actions
SORI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 6, 2007 3:18 PM CDT reply actions
ARE YOU FRIGGIN' KIDDIN' ME?!?!
by BlueW on Sep 6, 2007 3:18 PM CDT reply actions
How in the heck?
Soriano rocks!
phat
by phatass on Sep 6, 2007 3:18 PM CDT reply actions
clap clap clapclapclap
by Bricks and Ivy on Sep 6, 2007 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Now Marquis....
LOL!!
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
SCORE! WHAT'S THE DAMN SCORE GUYS!
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 3:19 PM CDT reply actions
Thanks Old Style Man!
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
and a single by Lee.
by BlueW on Sep 6, 2007 3:19 PM CDT reply actions
nevermind, sit down
by philadelphiacub on Sep 6, 2007 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
HAHA!
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I just got goosebumps.
by cubsfan4life on Sep 6, 2007 3:21 PM CDT reply actions
What about those off-season signings now, eh boys?
2 - 2 Pit and Birds
Soriano
I like Lou brining A Ram in here
They get some rest, but get brought in to help when needed
god damn dogers
was that hbp intentional?
I can't believe this is the same team.
If the Cubs get a couple more runs
by lancaster99 on Sep 6, 2007 3:25 PM CDT reply actions
I heard on the radio
comparing ALL of
Schmidt? HAHA
Wells?
DWells?
Clemens?
Padilla?
Shit-o?
Meche?
Woody Willims?
I haven't even started w/Sori, DeRo, et. al.
AND - FINALLY we got a manager who isn't afraid to make changes quickly and try some folks from AAA.
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 3:26 PM CDT reply actions
STOOPID PIE-RATS!
by BlueW on Sep 6, 2007 3:27 PM CDT reply actions
Pretty Boy DeRosa
Good thing he's cute!
by lancaster99 on Sep 6, 2007 3:27 PM CDT reply actions
Can someone give some HBP details
Intentional?
Did Aram get hurt/where was he hit?
Damn the DP
by cubsirishkillme on Sep 6, 2007 3:30 PM CDT reply actions
Where's the Soriano haters?
Huge homer..
I don't hate him...
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Same here
Other than the AS game HR...
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude - why do you
If someone voices their opinion, and states that someone is not doing this or that, does that mean that they HATE THEM?
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Soriano's caught more vitriol
But
yeah, no reason to sign soriano
where's tharr to bitch about hendry's free agent signings. lol
G!#%!#)DAMN!#%#!()#%! IT
Can't we pay off his therapist to screw him up again?
by lancaster99 on Sep 6, 2007 3:30 PM CDT reply actions
My theory is that he's Mike Fontenot
Just bean him twice at the plate
First pitch....
LOL...
Buckle up boys! Go get 'em Ryan/Carlos/whoever
LOL...
Buckle up boys! Go get 'em Ryan/Carlos/whoever
Ankiel
And
At some point
by lancaster99 on Sep 6, 2007 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Jesus tap dancing christ
Hemp-Kemp....
speaking of home runs
Ankiel may have more home runs
ankiel has 25 rbi in 23 games
Well, now it's just how Dempster likes it
by lancaster99 on Sep 6, 2007 3:34 PM CDT reply actions
I knew Len jinxed it
no hits for the first four
Just like when someone in basketball says "hasn't missed a free throw all night..."
...CLANK...
damnit
This game is like going to the dentist
Howry needs this last out and give the game to Dempster
Just you wait
looks like Johnny Wholestaff
And then Ankiel makes a nice catch
by lancaster99 on Sep 6, 2007 3:36 PM CDT reply actions
Fontenot with power...
Also, there's a very real possibility that Furcal may not break Lee's wrist this season. that would be sporting of him. Perhaps Todd Walker can come back to throw out the ceremonial "First Errant Throw from Second" next year to commemorate it.
I'm not bitter. No sir.
Marmol in the 9th?
Dempster is the closer
And closer PITCH every night.
by lancaster99 on Sep 6, 2007 3:38 PM CDT reply actions
Anyone else scared
What are the stats for runs walked-in by the cubs compared to the rest of the league this year anyways
No, but only because
by cubsfan4life on Sep 6, 2007 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
wiggle room?
ive been
This is where good teams
Nervous!!!!
by mweil on Sep 6, 2007 3:41 PM CDT reply actions
Well
Here the link again
http://www.cubworld.com/category/a_cubworld_cam
It's going to be exciting
OK Demp
Holding my breath...
rubbing my rabbit's foot...
knocking on wood...
Don't let us down here Dempster.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 3:43 PM CDT reply actions
If we deserve to win the division
I DO NOT want to see the bottom of this inning!
by BlueW on Sep 6, 2007 3:45 PM CDT reply actions
Watching Dempster trying to save a 1 run game...
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 3:46 PM CDT reply actions
OH PLEASE, OH PLEASE....
Settle down, roll em up, and end the threat.
by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 6, 2007 3:46 PM CDT reply actions
I hope Dempster makes this easy!
Positive thoughts-Positive thoughts
perhaps a DP is in order...?
enough of this loney baloney
by cubsirishkillme on Sep 6, 2007 3:47 PM CDT reply actions
bologna
by cubsirishkillme on Sep 6, 2007 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Waddya say, how 'bout a 6-4-3
Come on Pitcher's Best Friend....
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 3:47 PM CDT reply actions
How am I supposed to work...
As a sidenote, too many of these games might actually kill Ron. Seriously, he does not sound like he's having fun. :)
by hawkeyenation on Sep 6, 2007 3:48 PM CDT reply actions
Come on Demp.
WTF?
Ok...
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 3:49 PM CDT reply actions
Need a 5-4-3 TP!
Good job dempster
im not gunna start bashing but
I think I'm going to
by cubsfan4life on Sep 6, 2007 3:50 PM CDT reply actions
Well, game over
Nice of Lou to use Demp last night with a 6-run lead.
by lancaster99 on Sep 6, 2007 3:50 PM CDT reply actions
Typical Dempster
Its not the number
Ask Brad Lidge about that.
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Only because he usually had a several run lead!
He may only have 3 blown saves, but my point is
ugh
Let's hear it Sue
Yeah....
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 3:51 PM CDT reply actions
I just put out a hit on Dempster
And here is a NEGATIVE POSTER
Thanks Dempster!
phat pitch
phat!
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 3:51 PM CDT reply actions
WAY TO GO DUMPSTER YOU PIECE FO SHIT
Yay. finally... an out!
STILL nobody out
I can't watch...
This is what I was afraid of.
Dumpster
I wonder what the
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 3:53 PM CDT reply actions
We've got
Soriano
Theriot
Lee
Batting next.
phat
by phatass on Sep 6, 2007 3:53 PM CDT reply actions
So The Fair Weathers Fans....
Hughes just confirmed it's only the 3rd blown save this year.
Wow
shut the hell up
Dempster has a stinker...
What is noticeable about Dempster and should be a real cause for alarm is that since the All-Star break he is walking way too many hitters and his Ks are down per inning as well. He's getting very close to a walk an inning and that sucks for a relief pitcher if you want to use him in leveraged spots.
He didn't have any walks today and he's had one of these stinker outtings every month except July. Let's hope he bounces back and gets it done. I also am puzzled why he pitched last night with the 6 run lead? I thought that would be an ideal situation to use Wood, i.e., if Wood is cleared to go back-to-back then why not let him work on his control with a 6 run lead? It won't get easier than that?
Wait. Wait!
How can you not be?!
UGH!
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 3:53 PM CDT reply actions
crap...
and why did Lou put Dempster in last night in a situation that he shouldn't be in!!
Agreed
And
Its a little late to say
That's what good hitters do with 2 strikes
why?
by carmenfanzone on Sep 6, 2007 3:54 PM CDT reply actions
Cubs are done
Dempster was pitching well, throwing strikes and getting ahead of the3 hitters all you could ask of a closer. He just made too many mistakes over the plate.
by Ken Hubbs on Sep 6, 2007 3:54 PM CDT reply actions
Wow
And he got ahead of
Saito = game over.
Dempster wasn't the problem
The problem was not giving him insurance. The problem was also Lou using him last night.
by lancaster99 on Sep 6, 2007 3:55 PM CDT reply actions
I disagree
I hope not
by hawkeyenation on Sep 6, 2007 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
what ever
FWIW - Dempster had saved 12 in a row
Granted, he didn't pitch that great today...
But a couple things happened (like Lee's error) and that sparked LA...
And anyone who really knows baseball, knows that when the momentum surges for either team, it can be deadly.
Just part of the game.
that was not an error.
Very true
by hawkeyenation on Sep 6, 2007 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Well...
He didn't get the job done when most needed.
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
what difference does it makes if you don't get the
There are still 21 games left.
I'll say this to all you "up and down"-ers:
Remember the Sox two years ago....they lost their HUGE lead, all the way down to a game and a half in front, and people (like you all) had them slated for the WORST meltdown in MLB history.
And then they MADE history...and boy did they ever.
Wait...wait...
HA!
That's a good one.
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Ahh, you're showing your IQ again...
If you REALLY follow baseball and consider yourself a genuine fan, then I shouldn't have to even tell you this....
yea
they had a great closer that proved himself
Jenks was the THIRD closer they used that year...and he didn't come up until the end and was a pleasant surprise.
crap...
and why did Lou put Dempster in last night in a situation that he shouldn't be in!!
Imo, this was Lou's
Why pitch this guy again?
Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
After he just pitched last night.
Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
Grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory.
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 3:56 PM CDT reply actions
top o the order
by cubsirishkillme on Sep 6, 2007 3:56 PM CDT reply actions
ok to all of
You're Killing Me, Cubbies!!
Lord, please tell me why you put me on the earth as a Cubs fan? Must be payback for all of my shenanigans.
I think I broke my hand on my desk at work.
For the record
"Cockgrabber", ha that's classic.
by cubsfan4life on Sep 6, 2007 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
This kind of language
by frustratedfan on Sep 6, 2007 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
hey guys
should not
we had our big comeback in the 7th inning
here's to hoping it is only a couple
by cubsirishkillme on Sep 6, 2007 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually...
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
So witch pitcher would you rather have...
Saito or Dempster?
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
But look at his numbers...
that's a POINT SEVEN THREE WHIP. that is a major league closer.
HUGE, HUGE GAME TO LOSE THANKS DUMPSTER
for christ sake..
by seanlovescubs on Sep 6, 2007 3:58 PM CDT reply actions
4 batters too late, Lou.....
by carmenfanzone on Sep 6, 2007 3:58 PM CDT reply actions
Even though Dempster
It's more like 5 or 6
Nice mouth (in a blog sense)!
3 more chances for the good guys. GO CUBS!!
Good Move for the future
only a mile now?
by cubsirishkillme on Sep 6, 2007 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
God, I hope...
by carmenfanzone on Sep 6, 2007 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
For whatever reason
Get an out!
Hopefully they can get it done.
by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 6, 2007 3:59 PM CDT reply actions
DUMPSTER
by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 6, 2007 4:00 PM CDT reply actions
How can any TRUE Cubs fan be posiive after that?
how rare are pinch hit game winning
I mean cant we just get three outs and win the game!?!!
wow, we really need a comeback.
and it probably was a mistake bringing him in last night, but who knows.
sickening. and i can't take much more of the ankiel tear either. i wish things would just go right for once.
LMAO....
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 4:02 PM CDT reply actions
I never
what a discouraging series.
This one hurts
who is this guy "Dumpster" you speak of
WE CANT BEAT GOOD TEAMS
a well timed/hot lucky streak
by cubsirishkillme on Sep 6, 2007 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Well...
i usually stand up for the dumpster
by ryan797 on Sep 6, 2007 4:06 PM CDT reply actions
That one
Hey, all we have to do
by BlueW on Sep 6, 2007 4:06 PM CDT reply actions
hey
PIE???
by cubsirishkillme on Sep 6, 2007 4:06 PM CDT reply actions
Lou messed this game up today.
Bad Lou.
Bad Dumpster.
Horrible loss.
by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Sep 6, 2007 4:06 PM CDT reply actions
So, the bullpen has given up 11 runs
by FortLauderdaleCubs on Sep 6, 2007 4:07 PM CDT reply actions
Ballgame
by park on Sep 6, 2007 4:07 PM CDT reply actions
See you all next year
and is there any other team stepping up
EVERY ONE QUIT WINING AND BITCHING!!!
i don't like dumpster but the cubs are still in it
by ryan797 on Sep 6, 2007 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
the cardinals have been stepping up.
well, they're still in first.
lou has done a fantastic job. they've got a shot. they're still in it. they're competitive in september. i'm satisfied, though i'd really like to get in the playoffs. but, as long as the cardinals don't make it, i'll live.
mmmmmmmmm, chips...
I think Zambrano is a chicken%%%%
can't believe they're going to waste
this one is really painful on so many levels. devastating, maybe the worst game of the year and likely the worst series of the year thus far.
The Cubs are just a middle of the road team
HAHA
by IOWACUBSFAN on Sep 6, 2007 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't care what anybody says..
well, maybe marmols should close,
Well, at least we went quietly.
by BlueW on Sep 6, 2007 4:10 PM CDT reply actions
Ramirez is at the hospital
Please tell me you're kidding.
I wish I were...
He may have broken his elbow
I think the Cubs
all played well?!
No. They aren't Very Good.
Is this "very good" to you?
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know
I feel violated. Seriously.
I hope you've learned a valuable lesson.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Ouch!
Wow
We Deserve This...
Ahh! The sad, sorry life of a Cubs fan.
That was one crappy series at home.
by FortLauderdaleCubs on Sep 6, 2007 4:13 PM CDT reply actions
Santo on the radio
Well -
Clearly, the Dodgers are better than us by far, as are all of the NL West teams - well maybe not the Rockies, but close.
I am not saying its over for this year.
I'm saying this is a turning point.
As of today, they are tied for first - and as of tonight, they'll most likely be out of first.
And, here I go to plunk down $thousands on "Playoff" tickets.
by TheEman on Sep 6, 2007 4:13 PM CDT reply actions
I agree.
by FortLauderdaleCubs on Sep 6, 2007 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
They can't be "out" of first tonight.
unable to watch a lot of games. The negativity around here is
staggering.
by jessica on Sep 6, 2007 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
The negativity around here is staggering
I'll say this again, as I posted it earlier:
Remember the White Sox and the meltdown they went through before winning it all in 2005.
Where's the faith in the "faithful"?
Totally agree!!!!
Dont get me wrong I love BCB, but these game threads are either all giddy or all suicidual, depending on whether the Cubs are winning or losing. Take a hint from me, your day will go much smoother if you dont read these threads as the game is going, it makes me sick to read the posts and follow the action on Gameday.
by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 6, 2007 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
well
"PLAYOFFS?!?!
Jim Mora, Jr.
by rooreed22 on Sep 6, 2007 4:14 PM CDT reply actions
Attention everyone!
The playoff tickets will be printed as scheduled!
There is no reason to panic because the Cubs are in control of the NL Central.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 4:14 PM CDT reply actions
LMFAO!!!!!
by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Sep 6, 2007 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
That's classic! Love it
re: Attention everyone!
Dempster
Should have scored more runs in the 7th....
And the 1st....
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Lou is done with Dempster
Lou will go with Marmol from now on, considering all loyalty to Dempster is out the window, and Lou cannot ignore Marmol's numbers anymore.
C'mon...Dempster will hit the press and fans up
by FortLauderdaleCubs on Sep 6, 2007 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
lose 3 of 4 at home
Cubs still in first
Cubs head to PIT
Cards head to ARI
Brews head to CIN
That's a favorable schedule and if we don't take care of business against the Pirates, then we can start talking. I want to see this team come out firey mad tomorrow.
Yes, that loss sucked... big time! Yes this is a middle of the road team. But someone has to win the Central and a middle of the road Cards team won the series last year. Keep your head down today, but raise up tomorrow.
Breaking News from FoxSports:
Will be out for at least 2 weeks with a bad elbow.
by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Sep 6, 2007 4:15 PM CDT reply actions
oh fuck. classic.
Thought I would check in and see the reaction...
Meltdown mode...
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I think this game is on Lou
He should have yanked Dempster from warming up
Closer
At this point. . .
by park on Sep 6, 2007 4:18 PM CDT reply actions
no doubt.
Unbelievable how?
yeah. well marquis had a few good years wih them
True that
the cardinals lost their entire starting rotation
by bennyha on Sep 6, 2007 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
No need to keep watching
well, the dempster disaster is now unimportant.
There is no news on Ramirez.
by cubsfan4life on Sep 6, 2007 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you sure?
Well, I'm listening to Dave Kapplan
by cubsfan4life on Sep 6, 2007 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
This series was like the Cards series in '03?
Guess What?
Of course it sucks to lose games, yea i'm bummed and pissed off...and you should be too... but tomorrow is another day to battle! There are 22 games left, and anything can happen.
Stay behind your team and don't give up hope until the standings tell you otherwise.
Go Cubs!
by pc45 on Sep 6, 2007 4:21 PM CDT reply actions
Cubs tied for first
Brewers vs. CIN in CIN. They are on the road, they have to face Harrang and Aroyyo.
Cards vs. ARI in ARI, they have to face Webb, Owings, and Davis.
I like our chances although it is bad news that we face Ian Snell and Gorzelanny, two lefties. Matt Morris on Sunday.
We have Hill, Zambrano and Traschel going. Mixed news, we'll see which verison of each pitcher shows up.
Awesome
pc45
I completely agree that the season is not over but can't you understand that everyone is simply venting out their frustrations? Do you think your attitude is going to help to calm them down? If not then why go off on them?
i agree completely
by bennyha on Sep 6, 2007 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
all i'm sayin is...
we have 22 more opportunities to win this thing. get excited... get upset... just keep the big picture in mind.
i'm just trying to be a voice of reason.
(insert pee-wee's big adventure joke here for all you h8ers.)
by pc45 on Sep 6, 2007 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
pc45
i appreciate your evaluation
i can't answer for the other commenters who try and stay posi, but i'm sure they wouldn't appreciate you calling it a facade.
lastly, this is the 2007 Cubs. I don't particularly care about what happened in '03 or '04 or '89 or '69 or '45 or '84 etc etc etc.
in my opinion, this team has showed me they aren't going to give up. i'm just trying to give that same respect back to them.
by pc45 on Sep 6, 2007 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah..
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So you got your own opinions and your beliefs. I don't find fault with that. But so do other posters. Why in the world you jump all over them and find objection to their opinions and their thoughts, just because they disagree with what you think?
jump all over?
i find it almost amusing that my comments have received any attention at all, given some of the blatanly offensive things that fly around these game posts, but i'm sorry if i pissed off any of you gloom and doomers... i'll leave you to your misery from now on.
by pc45 on Sep 6, 2007 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
nicely put
by bennyha on Sep 6, 2007 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
31st?
I didn't watch the game
I mean
If he did,
Anyone find a
by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 6, 2007 4:24 PM CDT reply actions
I think Mac made that up
by LT on Sep 6, 2007 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
what about the other guy who broke the story.
If he did
And a plague on his house, too...
by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 6, 2007 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
There has been
Enjoy
Bluto: Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
Otter: Germans?
Boon: Forget it, he's rolling.
Bluto: And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough...
[thinks hard]
Bluto: the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go!
[runs out, alone; then returns]
Bluto: What the fuck happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer...
Otter: Dead! Bluto's right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part.
Bluto: We're just the guys to do it.
D-Day: Let's do it.
Bluto: LET'S DO IT!
Well I personally believe...
that the Cubs are unable to play better...because...uh... some people out there on the team don't have maps.
And... uh... I believe that our farm system, like such as in Iowa and... uh... the Tennessee, everywhere, like, such as...and I believe that they should...our coaches over here in Chicago should help the Cubs... uh...or, should help Iowa and should help the Tennessee and the Asian countries.
So we will be able to build up our future... for our children.
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 4:29 PM CDT reply actions
I feel really bad for that poor girl
by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Sep 6, 2007 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't think dumb could be hot
Now THIS is funny!!!
I aim to please...
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
your handiwork
Cubs version
Bluto: Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Colts beat the Cubs? Hell no!
Otter: Colts?
Boon: Forget it, he's rolling.
Bluto: And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough...
[thinks hard]
Bluto: the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go!
[runs out, alone; then returns]
Bluto: What the fuck happened to the Cubs Fans I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. LaRussa, he's a dead man! Fielder, dead! Braun...
Otter: Dead! Bluto's right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part.
Bluto: We're just the guys to do it.
D-Day: Let's do it.
Bluto: LET'S DO IT!
Well...the Cubs have the
Recent scapegoats:
Z
GIDP
Dempster
It has to turn around soon, right?
All we have to do win the Central
If I had a nickel for everytime Ramirez...
AmRam is not going on DL-I'm a moron
I Googled AmRam and DL and it gave me a FoxSports sorry saying he was going on the DL but I didn't read the date....it was two years ago.
Sorry about the mis-information.
by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Sep 6, 2007 4:31 PM CDT reply actions
Mac
I am glad you can't read dates though ;)
by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 6, 2007 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Well my problem is that
by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Sep 6, 2007 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure no problem
Bogus
When you put in AmRAm DL, ARam DL, A-Ram DL, Aramis Ramirez and DL, none of them come up with an injury story.
2. Always use Google News, not Google.
Anyway, I think you are lying. There's no way you put in anything and it brought up a story. Why the hell would you li... oh wait, I get it now..,
Ditto
Coming back in off the ledge....
by jck on Sep 6, 2007 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Man those 3rd place Cards
We better start worrying about those 3rd place Cards. I know we have beaten the 3rd place Cards in the season series this year, but you can't take that team lightly.
But my question
2
Jack Cust hit a bunch of HRs this year
problem is,
Sadly, no
by mojowo11 on Sep 6, 2007 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
What makes it worse
by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 6, 2007 4:36 PM CDT reply actions
Hey
I am sure everyone has dumped on Dempster, and I agree I had a not so positive look at the ninth when he came in. However, first blown save since June 10. He is what he is, I just don't see a change this late, but who knows Lou does mix it up.
I would not be surprised if he goes with Marmol.
This will go to the last weekend, just hope the Cubs have more wins in the Central.
NEED two out of three this weekend.,
My take on the ranting and booing of the Cubs, hey that is everyones right, I just don't do it.
Been part of this roller coaster for 37 years.
I do have to say with this roster, they do bust it and try there best.
by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Sep 6, 2007 4:37 PM CDT reply actions
Wow. Lou is pissed. I hope he
by cubsfan4life on Sep 6, 2007 4:39 PM CDT reply actions
At this point in the season if the players can't
It is up to guys like D. Lee, Zambrano, Floyd and DeRosa to lead this team.
by MiniAndretti on Sep 6, 2007 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course, sorry about that..
by cubsfan4life on Sep 6, 2007 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
This reminds me what my friend-coach
He is looking at mental mistakes all over the place today and earlier this week. He will come down hard on this road trip. No fooling around on this trip to Pittsburgh I dare say.
There are other notable examples, AAA player being late, Ward being picked off not once but now twice...(advanced scouts have picked up this weakness on Ward), Soriano is being pitched the same as he is waving at sliders three feet outside and Lee is guessing and missing fastballs in his hot zone.
holy hell
That just can't happen
It's so very very right...
by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 6, 2007 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry to rain in the optimists parade.
Right now, of those three teams, the Cubs are the ones with a losing record in September, at home no less! And the other two teams have the Cinderella story that the media likes (Brewers: first timers; Cardinals: Ankiel). That means that the motivational factor will not favor the Cubs either.
Having blown their advantages (home field and first in the standings), the Cubs would have to win the division on the road, in Florida and Cincinnati. However, the Cubs have losing records against both teams this year.
Can it be done? Sure, it can. But it's uphill right now and the team has no one to blame but themselves. They controlled their fate until today. They don't anymore. That is cause for concern but not to throw in the towel... yet.
Uhh.......
The optimists are saying "Today is cause for concern but don't throw the towel in yet." I don't think anyone is saying, "Oh goodie, we lost, but don't worry we are going 20-5 the rest of the way!" You are basically saying the same thing.
What I'm saying is that it is not how many...
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 6, 2007 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually no...
Sure, it's not going to be easy from here on out, and pretty much everyone has a similar shot at this point (i.e, none of the 3 teams are very good, so any of the 3 could win it). I agree that there is reason for disappointment and frustration right now (losing 3 of 4 at home in a pennant race is bad).
But to say that we don't control our destiny is just flat out wrong. If we win out (including the one-game playoff if necessary), we win the division. The scenario you presented (win out then lose the playoffs requires us to not win out.
Screw you guys! I'm going home!
well, i've seen statues of james longstreet.
Uh..What?
Being a Chicago fan
Both are usually pretty good, but when they are off, they find a way to make you want to repeatedly hit your hand with a hammer.....or at least blow your paycheck on booze.
Another one on Lou.
D'oh...
Needless to say, I completely agree.
by MrFurious on Sep 6, 2007 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm down, but not out
I know this will shock NotBruce, but I refuse to be devastated by this loss. Shocking to the system ? Hell yes. But this is the best team in the division, with the best road left to travel, and quite possibly the best manager. Will this team get there when all is said and done ? I don't know, but I like the Cubs chances better than the Cards' or Brewers'.
by scotteboy on Sep 6, 2007 5:25 PM CDT reply actions
Well, if that is so, then...
by Fraggin Judge on Sep 6, 2007 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I fully agree
Like I said, I don't know if this team will get there, but they sure as hell have the best road left to travel, they're the most talented 1-25, and have (arguably) the best manager. It might go down to the last Sunday, but I won't be surprised if it doesn't. I also won't be surprised if St. Louis goes on a 8-3 streak over the next 11 and puts some distance between themselves and the Cubs and Brewers.
I just refuse to think that today is the end.
by scotteboy on Sep 6, 2007 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
You know...
Just saying.
by MrFurious on Sep 6, 2007 5:26 PM CDT reply actions
And that lineup.
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