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Today marks the beginning of an irregular off-season feature here at BCB. On slow days or during slow times, I'm going to tell you some of my own personal baseball stories. Many of them are Cub-related; this one isn't, but I think it will still interest you.

In the summer of 1968 I was attending a summer camp in northwest Wisconsin. From time to time they'd take us on various trips in the area; one of the most popular ones was a drive to Minnesota, about two and a half hours away, to see a Twins game at Metropolitan Stadium in the Minneapolis suburb of Bloomington.

And it was thus, on July 23, 1968 we arrived there to catch the second game of a doubleheader between the Twins and Angels, and I snapped this photo:

I got to go back there one more time from camp, on August 13, 1971 --still have the ticket stub from that one -- and saw some 20-year-old kid pitcher named Blyleven throw a CG win over the Tigers.

Twelve years later, I had a friend who had just gotten his private pilot's license and I enjoyed flying with him occasionally -- only in good weather, you understand -- and we decided on July 30, 1983 to fly to Minneapolis. He wanted some flying practice and I wanted to see a game at the then-second-year Metrodome. We flew into the international airport there -- it was cool, the controllers cleared us to land ahead of a Northwest 727 jet, which had to wait for us.

On renting a car and leaving the airport, we noticed the then-still-standing Metropolitan Stadium... with a gate wide open. We decided to park and go in; it was a beautiful Saturday afternoon. We walked the deserted concourse and ran into a man who had been a Twins employee for years; he had brought his son by to see where the Twins and Vikings had played for two decades.

There was trash and debris everywhere; among some papers I found some blank checks that had been printed for "World Series 1965 Ticket Refunds"; I still have that around somewhere.

And I took these photos -- eerie, don't you think? They look like what you'd see in a futuristic science fiction film, where familiar landmarks still stand, except overgrown by weeds (at the time of the photo, the stadium had been abandoned for a little less than two years):





We then headed for downtown Minneapolis, where we saw the seventh-place Mariners beat the sixth-place Twins 7-4. With a crowd of only about 12,000 in the huge Metrodome (and this was before they curtained off a lot of the upper-deck seats there for baseball), the sounds of the crowd and the baseballs hitting bats echoed around the dome. It was the first game I'd seen indoors, and it felt odd. I imagine that when the place is full, and rocking, as it was during the Twins' two World Series there, the noise is deafening.

The Metrodome was seen as a necessity because of the fact that Minnesota winters often linger into May. What they didn't factor in was the fact that summers in Minnesota are gorgeous, and that a summer night at an outdoor park (such as the ones I spent there in 1968 and 1971) are an attraction in themselves; now, of course, the Twins are trying to get that atmosphere back and have a new stadium built -- a retractable dome that resembles the one in Houston; the Vikings want one too.

In the words of Joni Mitchell:

Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot.
And in the case of the Met in Bloomington, Minnesota, that's exactly what they did. If you don't already know, that is the site of the Mall of America.

Sic transit gloria mundi, indeed.

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Thanks for the memories
My very first Major League game was at that park (in '69 or '70 I think......my memory is not as good as yours). I was in grade school and we were coming home from a camping trip to Glacier National Park in August and took in a night game. I remember it exactly as you said......a gorgeous summer night. The Red Sox were in town, pitching matchup was Jim Perry and Sonny Siebert. Because I was collecting Topps cards heavily at the time I remember the defensive lineups (not batting orders).

RED SOX:
LF Carl Yastrzemski
CF Reggie Smith
RF Billy Conigliaro
3B Rico Petrocelli
SS Luis Aparicio
2B Doug Griffin
1B George Scott
C Bob Montgomery

TWINS:
LF Jim Holt
CF Cesar Tovar
RF Tony Oliva
3B Harmon Killebrew
SS Leo Cardenas
2B Rod Carew
1B Rich Reese
C  George Mitterwald

Some all time greats in that lineup, and one (at the time) future Cub in Mitterwald.

Al, I'm a first time poster but have been reading for the last season and a half. As a lifelong Cub fan and former Lakeview resident transplanted to California and now Denver, I look forward to staying in the loop on the trade rumors this off-season on this site.

Thanks.

hey hey holy mackerel, no doubt about it, the Cubs are on their way.....

by cubrandy on Nov 2, 2005 10:00 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hey...
... thanks for being here, and for the compliments.

You know me -- I can't resist a challenge like this. I had to find the date of your game. But -- I can't find any Retrosheet lineup that exactly matches those starting lineups.

This one from August 27, 1970 comes closest. Griffin didn't play for the Red Sox before 1971, and Montgomery didn't catch the game in question. The pitching matchup is the exact one you mention, though.

Does this sound like the one? It was a day game, if that helps.

Glad you are here, feel free to dive in anytime!

by Al on Nov 2, 2005 10:20 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

gold gloves
saw the list of gold glovers, for all the talk of the white sox defense they don't have one?

by mike bornemann on Nov 2, 2005 10:08 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Twin Cities
First off, Al, you're correct about the atmosphere in the Dome when it's backed. It's pretty insane. My first game there was in 1992, 42,000 to see the Twins play the Athletics. I was actually on a day off from my NW Wisconsin camp. This is when I caught a foul ball in the bottom of the ninth off the bat of Chili Davis. The year before, on a camp road trip we went to the Twin Cities but the Twins weren't playing, so we got to take a tour of the Dome, which was being switched over to the football field for a Vikings pre-season game. What amazed me was how little there was between the astroturf and the concrete surface.

I really like the dome, which is just a strange place. For those who don't know,the roof of the dome is held down, not up. Cables keep the roof down as air pressure keeps the roof up. You must enter the ballpark through revolving doors, but to keep traffic flowing, on the way out the main doors are open, but hold onto your hat otherwise you'll lose it as you're blown out the door. The Twins recently lost their long time PA announcer, Bob Casey who was known for his announcing that there was "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Smoking in the Metrodome". I know that many feel that baseball isn't meant to be played in places like the Metrodome, but I've always liked it.

The Cubs do play in the Twin Cities in 2006, and I do recommend Minneapolis as a destination city to see a game. Once downtown, it is increadibly easy to manage. There are some great bars and restaurants. During the summer, downtown Minneapolis is a great place to hang out. Now if you're not into shopping, the Mall of America (in Bloomington, about 15 minutes from downtown, but a stones throw from the airport) isn't for you. However if you are up for it, the MoA is a good place to spend an afternoon (lots of shopping, entertainment for kids, a wide variety of restaurants).

DmL

by dmlichte on Nov 2, 2005 12:38 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Sad to see the old yard in disrepair...
but it's in better shape than when I saw it.

Spur-of-the-moment we drove from Rockford to see the Blackhawks/North Stars playoff game on 4-25-85 at the old Met Center. It wound up being a a 7-6, 2OT barnburner. They still show it on ESPN Classic once in a while.

The Met Center was next door to the stadium. By then, they had knocked everything down but the scoreboard and light towers. It was just a big pile of rubble. I still have a brick...somewhere.

Next night we went to the Metrodome and saw the A's and Twins. Most people I talked to there said it was OK for football, but wished the Twins were still at the old place.

I thought the place was depressing. The game didn't feel right or even sound right. Even when we went back to the All Star Game there later that summer (when it was full) I didn't care for it. The sooner they blow it up, the better.

by bison on Nov 2, 2005 1:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Beautiful
I saw my very first ballgame at the old Met when I was visiting an aunt.  Through an old tattered program I had laying around, my recollections and retrosheet, I was able to figure out what game it was.  I knew it was a day game against KC in 1973, and that KC won.  Only one game matches that description.

What was remarkable about that game?  Not much, except that it was only the second major league appearance (and first run scored, first road game) for a young third baseman by the name of George Brett.  Didn't think anything of it at the time.  My aunt did buy me a really nice Twins letterman-style jacket that I wore for years, even after I outgrew it.  She was trying to make me a Twins fan instead of a Cubs or Brewer fan.  Didn't work, but it was an awfully nice jacket.

Thanks for the photos, Al.

I never travel far without a little Big Star

by Josh77 on Nov 2, 2005 2:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Devil Rays
So they've narrowed their managerial candidate list down to three. But they're also close to naming their new GM, perhaps Gerry Huntsicker. Why on earth, if the Rays are going to hire a GM, don't they let that GM hire the manager?

DmL

by dmlichte on Nov 2, 2005 2:28 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Devil Rays
Why is this surprising?  These are the Devil Rays, remember.
I never travel far without a little Big Star

by Josh77 on Nov 2, 2005 2:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Stumped
 In the 2nd picture, what is that blue strip? The only thing I could think of is on deck circle, but it appears to be in CF??

 Thanks for the pics and story, as every offseason for the last 2 years, I'll look forward to your baseball related stories and descriptions of the  books you've read.

by SoBlueCal on Nov 2, 2005 2:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Or is that
 the strip around home plate and those are the LF Bleachers?? Looks really small compared to the first overhead picture.

by SoBlueCal on Nov 2, 2005 2:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Your second post is correct...
... that was taken from behind home plate, looking toward LF. It's the home plate area. Yes, it looks weird with all the weeds.

by Al on Nov 2, 2005 2:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Mall of America
I was just up there a few weekends ago.  I knew that it stood on the former Met grounds, and I tried to keep my eyes open for any sort of monument/small plaque recognizing this fact.  Didn't see one, though.

by Floyd on Nov 2, 2005 2:55 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Camp Snoopy
There are a few momentos in Camp Snoopy, the indoor theme park. There is a plaque where home plate used to be. There is also a chair mounted on one of the walls from the ball park. There are pics here:

http://info.campsnoopy.com/Fun/Facts.htm

DmL

by dmlichte on Nov 2, 2005 3:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting..
... I wonder if this is why the Cubs dumped him so readily.

I also wonder if any team will sign him, knowing he'll be suspended for the first ten games of the season. He didn't play all that well in 2005.

by Al on Nov 2, 2005 4:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think
the fact that he stunk and the team tanked had a lot more to do with it than steroids.

But the fact that guys like Lawton are testing positive shouldn't be surprising.  Steroids, contrary to popular belief, do not turn Clark Kent into Superman.  It's really only a small advantage, at least in baseball.  Those who are stars would still be good players if they didn't take steroids.  Those who are marginal starters are looking at unemployment.  Which do you think is the greater incentive?

I never travel far without a little Big Star

by Josh77 on Nov 2, 2005 10:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank You
steroids do not make you a better basbeall player.  Isn't it ironic, it's more of the middle-of-the-road player getting popped?

They sure didn't help Giambi in '04 did they?

If 'roids made everyone a great basbeall player, Ronnie Coleman would be the next Babe Ruth.

by socalbob on Nov 3, 2005 4:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The Metrodome
Will be known as the most greatest game I've ever been to.  Marquette 83- Kentucky 69 in the Regional Finals sending MU to the Final Four (where we got trounced).  By the way, D Wade had 29 points, 11 rebounds, and 11 assists that game.

I've been to a game for baseball there too, wish I could have gone to the old stadium.

by MerigoldBowling on Nov 2, 2005 6:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thanx Al...
I appreciate the stories.  I didn't know where the Twins played before, but now I know.  I learn a lot here.

You're so lucky, I still can't get over the fact you've been to over 2,000 baseball games.  

That field looks really sad, I would get upset if I came across it.  Especially if I had seen baseball there before.

Cubbie blue always sPaRkLeS in my eyes.

by sparkles721 on Nov 2, 2005 7:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks...
... hey, when I was sixteen, I hadn't been to many ballgames myself. You've got lots of time.

And, there will be LOTS more stories. Trust me, I've got tons of 'em.

by Al on Nov 2, 2005 7:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Metropolitan Stadium
I saw two games there in the summer of '66.  My mom and dad had friends who lived close enough to the park to hear the organ in their backyard.  We didn't have plans to go but my dad could see that I really wanted to so we just walked over and saw the Twins play the White Sox both on a Saturday and Sunday.  The Sox lost both games.  Killebrew hit two homers in the first game and Jimmie Hall or Bobby Allison hit two in the Sunday game.

Gary Peters pitched one of the games and he was one of my favorite players even though I was already a Cub fan.  The Cubs and Sox split time on WGN then so i saw as many Sox games as Cub games.  The Sox were awful offensively and on days Peters pitched he was one of the better hitters in their lineup.  Ken Barry, the Sox CF hit a homer in one of the games which I remember because he also hit a homer in the '65 Labor Day doubleheader at Comiskey we were at.  It was quite an event in those days when a Sock hit a homer.  I don't think any of them hit much more than 20  in a season for most of the 1960s.  Maybe Pete Ward.

These games were one year after the Twins went to the Series and one year before the Sox went into the last weekend of the season in a four-way race for the American league pennant before imploding against Washington and KC, the two worst teams in the league.

These pictures do bring back memories.  Even though it was just an overgrown minor league park, Metroplitan Stadium seemed futuristic to a nine-year-old who'd only been to Wrigley and Comiskey.  Thanks for the memories.

by TR on Nov 2, 2005 8:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I love Retrosheet!
Here are your two games:

Saturday, June 18, 1966 -- Twins 9, White Sox 8, Hall homers twice.

Check out the PBP for the top of the ninth -- pretty exciting ending, as the White Sox left the bases loaded after scoring three runs.

Sunday, June 19, 1966 -- Twins 6, White Sox 4, Killebrew homers twice.

by Al on Nov 3, 2005 4:05 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully
by the time I get back to Chicago (Late August, Early September) there'll still be tickets left for me to enjoy some Cubbie games.

While I'm down there though I will make it a point to drive down to Miami and catch a Marlin/Cub game, and maybe a Brave/Cub game if I have a day off or two.

2,000 games, I too am envious. Curious though, how many of them came in your 20's?

2006 -- AC026097 -- Eamus Catuli!

by priorpwnz on Nov 2, 2005 8:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Al...
IS in his 20's.  Right Al? ;)

How many of those came in your teenage years?

Cubbie blue always sPaRkLeS in my eyes.

by sparkles721 on Nov 2, 2005 9:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Man...
... I'd love to still be in my 20's! ;)

How many in my teenage years? Less than 50, probably less than 30. I can go back and count later.

by Al on Nov 3, 2005 4:08 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Great Pictures
Thanks for the pictures and story Al. I was talking to a co-worker today who is a huge twins fan. I showed him the pictures and he told me about the upperdeck in left center(pictured in your '71 photo). He was telling me about a game were he saw Kilibrew hit a homerun towards the last row of that upperdeck(The pitch of that deck and distance from home plate almost seems impossible). After that game the seat where the ball landed was marked as the longest homerun hit in that stadium.
cubsfan4life

by cubfan4life on Nov 2, 2005 8:58 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

That seat...
... is pictured in the Camp Snoopy link that's posted in one of the comments above this one.

by Al on Nov 3, 2005 4:08 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry to hear
that Gloria was feeling ill on the 'el' last Monday.
Hope she's feeling better.

by slide on Nov 2, 2005 9:27 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Great story Al!
Stellar as always! If you ever get tired of the directing gig, I think you'd have a successful career as a writer. I was wondering if that camp you referred to was anywhere near Rice Lake, where my Mom is from. My Grandparents lived there for many years, and my Grandfather tried to make me a Twins fan too - even going as far as giving me framed ticket stubs and a photo from the last game played at the Met.

My Dad's Cub loyalty won me over, though!

Pronounced: zam-BRAH-no

by Dan on Nov 2, 2005 11:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The camp I went to...
... was northwest of Eau Claire, southeast of Duluth, Minnesota. It no longer exists as a boys' camp -- it was sold years ago, and is now a "resort".

Thanks for your compliments on my writing!

by Al on Nov 3, 2005 4:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Great photos, Al
I've been to all of four major league parks -- the two down in the LA metroplex, Wrigley, and Petco -- and I must say that's pretty impressive.

Those interested can check out my attempts to find abandoned ballparks from space in my Space Ghosts gallery.

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by scareduck on Nov 3, 2005 1:03 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Retrosheet has made me its prisoner
Al,

I too went to look at the two Sox/Twins games in question because I was bugged about whether it was Alllison or Hall who hit the two homers.  For the life of me I don't remember the furious Sox rally at the end of the one game.  Weird what you remember and don't remember in life.  Of course, I didn't go over to Retrosheet when I first posted because everytime I go there I end up spending 15 minutes, 45 minutes, an hour, pouring over games I was at or remember on TV.  I burn up as much time there as I used to with the Baseball Encyclopedia when I was a teenager.   Good to see the steady progression I've made in life.

by TR on Nov 3, 2005 9:07 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I know...
... I love Retrosheet, but you can absolutely get lost in there. It's wonderful, isn't it?

by Al on Nov 3, 2005 9:57 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes it its..
I don't have any reason to go back and look at many games, but since my parents got free tickets to a White Sox game when I was born because my weight was the same as the score or something I went to look. And they were wrong because the score was 1-0 and that is in no way how much I weighed.  So now they have no idea why they got free tickets.

And I was curious about what happened when I was born in the Cub world, so I looked.  The Cubs lost, that day.  Then, I figured out the Cub's record on my birthday from the year I was born to this year, and they are 11-4. That's pretty good. I like retrosheet, if I'm curious about a player or a game, I just go look it up.

Cubbie blue always sPaRkLeS in my eyes.

by sparkles721 on Nov 3, 2005 4:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sigh...
I grew up with this stadium and still believe that it was the best place to watch baseball on a summer evening. Favorite memories:
-going to "Knothole Games" with my brother. In the early 60's, for 50 cents, we got bleacher seats and the pre-game opportunity from Twins players to learn how to play the game of baseball.
-every towering Harmon K. homer.
-Rod Carew stealing home twice in a double header win over Baltimore in '69
- Richie Allen, in cool red Sox pinstripes, hitting two inside-the-park-homers in one game.
-Rich Reese hitting a game-winning HR to halt Dave McNally's 16(?)-game winning streak

The Metrodome is almost too horrible to contemplate.

by scotharr on Nov 4, 2005 9:23 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

"Knothole Games"...
... that sounds very cool. No wonder you have such great memories.

Here's that Rich Reese game; it was on August 3, 1969. Even more impressive because it was a grand slam -- and a pinch-hit grand slam at that.

McNally's streak was 17 games -- the last two of 1968, and a 15-0 start in 1969.

God, I love Retrosheet.

by Al on Nov 4, 2005 11:44 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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