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CHICAGO (AP) -- Colorado Rockies pitcher Jason Jennings set a major league record today by throwing only 46 pitches in a complete game victory against the Chicago Cubs at Wrigley Field. Jennings was helped in this remarkable feat by the fact that every single Cubs hitter swung at the first pitch he threw.

That's absurd, of course, but the Cubs' offense is getting a bit absurd these days. Twelve different Cub hitters DID swing at the first pitch today, including the first two to look at Rockies reliever Jay Witasick. Nine other hitters took a called first strike. It wasn't until Brian Fuentes came in to pitch in the ninth inning that four of the five hitters he faced actually looked at the first pitch they saw.

How on Earth is this offense ever going to get untracked until and unless they... repeat after me, everyone:

WORK THE COUNT!
It all added up to something that never, ever should have happened: a 5-2 loss to the Rockies, who came in here having been swept on the road at Milwaukee and with a 3-20 road record, nearly as bad as the Astros.

Not only that, Jason Jennings came into the game leading the NL in walks with 37, and the Cubs STILL didn't try to get on base this way. Meanwhile, Cub pitchers issued five free passes, even though only one of them scored.

Why is it that Dusty Baker and Gary Matthews and the rest of the coaching staff simply refuse to acknowledge that on-base percentage IS the name of the game today? For all Baker's supposed people skills, sometimes it takes baseball skills to win ballgames and his stubborn insistence that everyone go up to the plate hacking away at everything they see is, quite simply, costing the club wins.

This ruined an otherwise pleasant day, weatherwise (sunny, with puffy clouds, with nice temperatures in the upper 60's), and otherwise -- as today, Byron Clarke of The Cubdom, Scott Lange of The Northside Lounge and I convened the First Unofficial Cubs Blog Army Summit Meeting.

Scott came in with his dad (and they'll both join me again tomorrow), and Scott, Byron and I had a photo taken which Scott promised to e-mail me this evening (and which I'll post either later tonight or tomorrow). Until today, Scott was undefeated in his trips to Wrigley Field, 4-0 -- so I guess we could blame him, but instead, I'm going to blame the Cub offense. Frankly, Carlos Zambrano, despite throwing very well (three earned runs in five innings, and the 110-pitch count surprised my friend Craig, also in for a visit from Kansas City, because it didn't seem as if he had thrown that many pitches), should have won this game. When the Rockies took a 1-0 lead in the top of the third -- after one of those darned walks, Dusty! -- I said to Craig, "One run won't win this game."

The Cubs made me truth-tellers in the bottom of the inning, with a nice three-hit, one-run rally. But that was it for Cub scoring, as they played like they were impatiently looking at their watches at an airport security line the rest of the day. Scott pointed out to me that not only was everyone swinging at first pitches, but there were no fewer than eight ground balls hit right to Todd Helton at first base for easy outs (five unassisted putouts, two 3-1's, and one where Helton stepped on the base and then caught Aramis Ramirez in a rundown for a tag double play).

This sort of offense, my friends, is not going to win many games, especially if this is all you can muster against a guy who came in with a game-time ERA (7.05 -- get it?).

Too little too late, the Cubs scored a run in the bottom of the ninth, but even that wasn't what I would consider "offense". Corey Patterson singled and was forced out. Michael Barrett was hit by a pitch, both runners moved up on a ground ball to deep shortstop, and then Fuentes wild-pitched the run home. Big whoop.

If this season is still to be salvaged -- and it IS way too early to give up, only 45 games in -- some changes must be made, and I'm not even suggesting trades, although some of those may come.

I'm suggesting a sea change in the way Cubs hitters approach their times at bat. Work the count. Make the opposition starters throw a ton of pitches, because if you can get deep into most clubs' bullpens, you are going to score some runs (note to Dusty: see what other teams do off the Cubs' bullpen!).

Tomorrow, Scott and I will reconvene the CBA summit, day two, and Mark Prior will be attempting to even the series. It goes without saying that it's an absolute must for the Cubs to win the three remaining games on this homestand.

Keep the faith, all.

UPDATE [2005-5-26 20:50:31 by Al]: Forgot to mention this earlier. While we were waiting in line to get into the bleachers before the gates opened, two very large men were harassing some of the security people and the gate chief. It was clear that they were very drunk -- amazing at 11 am on a Thursday.

A security supervisor came over and explained that they should go away, have some coffee and sober up and come back in an hour, because they would not be allowed in at gate time, 11:20.

Good for them, I say. Well done.

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Apparently, Dusty and Matthews...
have been telling the hitters to "work the counts, dude." Unfortunately, they aren't. This is my main problem with the Cubs' off-season moves - they got rid of Sosa and Alou to bring in more versatile hitters. Unfortunately, they brought in more of the same with Dubois and Burnitz. The Cubs either need to start playing their high OBP players more (Jerry Hairson is #2 on the team in OBP) or need to make a trade to acquire guys high in OBP. If you look at the last 3 World Series Champs - the Red Sox in 2004, the Marlins in 2003 and the Angels in 2002, you'll see 3 teams with hitters that could get on base and work pitchers deep into counts. Remember the collapse in the NLCS? It wasn't just due to a curse, a Bart-man, or a choke-job by the Cubs. It had a LOT to do with the hitting talent in the Marlin's lineup and their ability to tire pitchers out and draw walks from relievers. Thus, when Zambrano, Wood, and Prior threw games 5, 6, and 7 they didn't have enough left to throw complete games.

By the way, Gary Gilette had a great article on how plate discipline is one of the most underrated tools in the game when analyzing prospects. You can find it over on ESPN's insider page.

The Cubs will shine in twenty-oh-five!

by shawndgoldman on May 26, 2005 5:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's weird
because with Sosa, Mercker, and Alou gone, there is (presumably) so much less attitude on this team. Strangely, though, they seem to be even less of a TEAM than the were last year, even with Sosa whining about his salsa music and Alou picking fights with all the umpires. I never thought that getting rid of Sosa and Alou would make the team gel LESS.

I had hoped that Kerry Wood would really step up as a leader this year, but he's been occupied with his own problems, Greg Maddux has never been one to take charge, Nomah is out, and Todd Walker hasn't really been the team leader I always thought he would be. Damn, I wish we had kept Eric Karros around, if for nothing else than as a clubhouse leader.

When a team just seems to be drifting aimlessly, it's hard to blame anyone other than the manager.

Hey-Dawson backwards is Noswad!---Harry Caray

by cubbiejulie on May 26, 2005 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have no idea if this makes sense at all...
... but how about Karros as our new hitting instructor?
The Cubs will shine in twenty-oh-five!

by shawndgoldman on May 26, 2005 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just don't like them
I have been a huge cub fan since  Durocher was at the helm and this is the first team I just do not like.Many of the teams through the years lost a lot more games than these guys will,but they did it because there baseball skill sucked,not because they had no clue how to play the game.I wonder how a guy like Hawkins would do playing for Durocher? Since Durocher fined pitchers for throwing a 0-2 strike regardless of the outcome of the at bat I doubt he would fair well.My point is there is and always has been a right way to play the game and the manager and coaching staff must insist the players understand this.Time for Dusty and his staff to go and any player who does not like it can follow.

by jimhickman on May 26, 2005 5:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree. Better to watch a team from the mid 70's
This team squanders potential greatness, while most of them in the past have just played with limited talent.  That's what makes this season such totally excruciating torture.

NOTE TO CUBS:  The #1 solution for underachieving teams...fire the manager.  Take a lesson from Steinbrenner and the Red Sox.  

Let's play two!!!

by jsmckay on May 27, 2005 6:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

New Players
I am afraid that just telling hitters to work the count just will not work. These hitters are what they are; low OBP high SLG guys. A new hitting coach might help a bit, but Dubois is not going to turn into Dunn. On the other hand a new manager might not do stupid things like pinch hit Macias for Dubois and refuse to let young guys play even when they are doing well.

by Boilerfan on May 26, 2005 5:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Becoming a hitter
I disagree. Sosa at the height of career learned to take a pitch and to take a pitch the other way and saw his numbers skyrocket. (Yes, there were probably some other factors as well, chemical or not).

Being a smart hitter means swinging at hittable pitches, fouling off tough pitches that would be strikes and not swinging at balls. It is not easy, but it can be learned. The players just have to want to listen to the hitting coach, and the hitting coach has to give some useful advice.

What is odd is as I recall, Sarge Matthews was a guy who believed in taking a walk. He had a .410 OBP in 1984 and a career mark of .364. One has to wonder it the Matthews agrees with Baker's hack at all costs attitude.

by Ross on May 26, 2005 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not only that...
Baker himself was a reasonably patient hitter as a player, with a .347 lifetime OBA.

by Al on May 27, 2005 3:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The hack at all costs approach...
has proven itself to be a total loser for the past 2 months.  Time to make a change.

NOTE TO DUSTY:...DUH.

Let's play two!!!

by jsmckay on May 27, 2005 6:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ay, yi, yi
We're really hurting right now, but I appreciate Al's optimism keeping me from sliding into the deep abyss.

As an aside, I just now happened to flip over to the Orioles game while Sammy was up.  First pitch I saw, he popped it up ....

by 08Cubs on May 26, 2005 7:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Walks?
Walks clog the bags?

Now it looks as if he's not even qualified to be a mananger.

Walks give you a man on base without a hit, if the next guy hits a homer, a triple, or even a double, that runner scores. IT'S A RUN! Not something the Cubs have seen much of lately, and apparently this is the reason. They swung at alot of pitches today, first pitch groundouts was all I saw today, that's not how you get a run.

by Miss Fantastick on May 26, 2005 8:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You're absolutely right.
And Dusty really DID say "walks clog up the bases". I wish I could find the exact source of that quote -- he said it sometime last year.

by Al on May 26, 2005 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clogging...
Here's a link to a cached version of an article that has the quote:

'During spring training, Cubs manager Dusty Baker derided walks as "overrated unless you can run" and said that walks tend to "clog up the bases for guys who can run."'

<Big sigh....>

by gharp on May 26, 2005 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's it
Nobody with this attitude has any business managing a baseball team.  Until now, I figured that Baker was just not good at thinking things through.  Now I realize that whatever the hell he's been doing in the dugout and on the field for the last several decades, it's had nothing to do with the game of baseball.

by gjdow on May 26, 2005 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

pack it in
You say it is too early to give up the season.  I see no hope for this team.  Even when they played well in 2003 and last year they didn't have a great obp.  I think if you look back in the last 20 years or so they have been historically in the lower half of getting on base.   They don't fundamental baseball.  While I won't blame Lee, this is just what the Cubs do.  At the worst you have to move the runners over with 1st and 2nd and no one out.  

Say what you will about the Sox.  I don't think offensively they are much better than the Cubs.  But they do things to win.  Not only that they have a much better bullpen.

In one of of the papers today, they mentioned how the Cards are beating up on the bad teams.  This is not something the Cubs are doing.  

by sanman on May 26, 2005 8:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We make EVERY pitcher look like Cy Young
These Cub hitters make every pitcher look good.  Today's quotes from the Rockies pitcher are about the fifth time this season some lame no-name has "all of a sudden" caught fire against the Cubs. The common denominator is all to clear... it's the insanely undisciplined approach of the Cubs hitters.

Worst of all, we squander good starts by our guys.

I bet Zambrono can't wait to join Clemment as an ex-Cub with a team that will show him a little run-support.

Let's play two!!!

by jsmckay on May 27, 2005 6:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think...
... that I'm going to stop going to games for a while. Today brings my season total to 1-5, I believe. No specific comments to add in terms of the game itself. Basically, it was amazing to look over to the pitch count board and see Carlos Zambrano hit his 50th pitch some time in the 3rd or 4th inning and to see Jennings throwing 60 or 70 in the 7th.

The bottom line, IMO, is that this may be the most undisciplined baseball team I've ever seen. The Sox series was a tremendous contrast. I'm not talking about making baserunning errors and fielding mistakes, I'm talking about overall baseball play. This team swings for the fences with the wind blowing in at a gale. This team swings looks at a minimum of pitches. They seemingly refuse to work the count. Their situational hitting is absolutely horrid. We have heard about the White Sox and smart ball which may or may not be appropriate, but the Cubs, right now, are playing dumb ball.

To me, this all comes from the top. The manager dictates what happens, and what really stands out is Dusty's mantra that the Cubs need to be aggressive at the plate. Is it a surprise that they've seen the fewest pitches per plate appearances? As I said during the offseason, while Matthews and Clines changed titles, the result was no real change and I believe that I've been proved correct. I have not been one to blame Hendry, but look at the holes that this team had last year. Hendry filled none of them.

The Cubs should refund the money of everyone who paid to see the abomination that took place today at Wrigley.

DmL

by dmlichte on May 26, 2005 9:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dan...
... since obviously the Cubs can't win while you're there, maybe you're right... though you haven't been in the bleachers in a while. We'll try to get you out there later this year.

You're absolutely right about the ballclub. It's NOT just the walks or lack thereof, or the solo homers, or the baserunning gaffes -- it's a complete lack of fundamental baseball.

The funny thing is, the 2003 Cubs under Baker DID play this brand of baseball. But last year and this, it seemed to turn totally around under the same manager and (essentially) the same coaching staff. That's hard to explain or reconcile.

But it's very clear that it has to change. Beyond the losing, today (and many other days this year), the Cubs haven't even been a fun team to watch.

by Al on May 26, 2005 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...
... I've got other theories as to why the Cubs lose when I'm there, including one friend who always seems to call me before I go to games. Whenever she calls, the Cubs seem to lose that game. Regardless, I leave for my usual summer job in two weeks which takes me away for two months. Since this Blog is web based, rather than ASBBCC, I may be able to keep in contact a bit easier. It is always interesting to tkae a nine day trip into Quetico Provincial Park, be away from all news for that time, and than try to find a newspaper in Atikokan, Ontario, that has American baseball standings.

Anyhow, a few interesting things via the media over the past few hours.

First, Gene Clines was interviewed on WSCR tonight. The one item of note that he raised was that Aramis Ramirez has had back problems for a little while now and, because of that, has had to alter his swing. We have seen the result. Clines insists that Aramis is getting better and the backpain is going away. I hope that I'm not the only one here who feels that the Cubs would have been better off DLing Aramis throughout this all.

Also of interest was Clines going on and on about "modern day ballplayers..." Clines was asked a few times about Patterson, and Clines kept going on about modern day ballplayers and so forth. I'm left wondering a few things. First, perhaps the Cubs just don't have the right mix of attitudes. Secondly, perhaps guys like Clines and Baker are too caught up in how they think that it should be and can't relate to the players. You've got to know how to connect to be able to figure out how to teach the individuals.

The Trib's story about today's game discusses Baker's total frustration with the Cubs unwillingness to take pitches with Jennings on the mound. Well, actions speak lounder than words and if Baker really wants to make a point, perhaps he needs to sit some of those players who refuse to take pitches. If it would make a point, perhaps we need to see some regulars sitting for guys with really crappy averages, just to let them know that when they play bad baseball, there is going to be a consequence.

DmL

by dmlichte on May 26, 2005 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Odd...
... that you say that Baker and Clines might be " too caught up in how they think that it should be and can't relate to the players".

Isn't that supposed to be Baker's strength? Relating to his players?

And if he can't do that... then he ought to go.

by Al on May 27, 2005 3:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And another thing...
 Isn't the manager in charge? Aren't the players supposed to follow HIS orders?
 Since when do players go to the plate doing what THEY want to do?
 Don't they still have signs? Don't they still have strategy?
 It's not very apparent these days.

by Butchoh31 on May 27, 2005 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure
But Gene Clines kept going off about the "modern day ballplayer" and how different they are. What strikes me is that a coach bemoaning "the modern day ballplayer" is like an old guy complaining about "kids these days..." That smacks of someone who is out of touch and can't relate. Once someone sits and talks about the good old days and how players have changed, I see someone who thinks too much about the changed players and not enough about how to help and work with them. I am not minimizing the abilities of Clines and I am not saying that the players aren't primadonas these days.  But players these days are changed and if you're coaches need to be able to relate to them if they are going to be effective coaches.

I'm not sure if this is the case with Baker or not. More of an issue that I've seen with him is his unwillingless to place any limits and his desire to have his players love him. This has led to a manager who lets the inmates run the asylum.

DmL

by dmlichte on May 27, 2005 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At the same time...
It's not like the players on the Cubs are any different from those on any other team.

Sure, there might be a problem with the "modern day ballplayer", but it's not like the 2005 Cubs are playing in the 1947 National League.

by dvdmgsr on May 27, 2005 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...
... I'm just wondering if the Cubs did a poor job when deciding on their batting coach. Hearing the interview, he sounds like a guy who is more frustrated about the players themselves rather than their ability to hit. I don't think he's able to get through to them.

DmL

by dmlichte on May 27, 2005 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I share your feelings, Dan.
I think Pat Hughes does, too.  Ron Santo of course could not hide his disgust today--that's to be expected.  But even Pat was obviously let down by today's "performance."

Well, I'm coming to town tomorrow, and narcissist that I am, I'm hoping this makes a difference!  :)

by dfrancon on May 26, 2005 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even Len & Bren
Even Len & Bren were harping non-stop on the hacking. Yep, that includes Bob Brenly, the players' broadcaster, who is always making excuses for Cub errors (wind, grounds crew, crowd noise) in the field. Even he was pretty much fed up. The lack of patience facing the high ERA walk machine Jennings was The Theme of the Broadcast, and Len made a point of saying "and another Cub batter swings at the first pitch..." over and over. Good for him.

by JohnM on May 27, 2005 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be at the game Friday
can I attend the summit?
Hey-Dawson backwards is Noswad!---Harry Caray

by cubbiejulie on May 26, 2005 9:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If you're going to be in the bleachers...
... absolutely, stop by and say hi.

by Al on May 27, 2005 3:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al, I think...
...That you just need to email the CBA and see if the members can meet up together at the summit.

I already know I won't be there, I've got a distance barrier of about 1300 miles stopping me.

by Miss Fantastick on May 26, 2005 9:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Meeting for the Summit?
Hey, Al,

I'm flying from Dallas to Chicago early tomorrow a.m. so as to see all of this weekend's glorious games, which I believe will leave the Cubs 3 for their last 3.  Yes, I'm an optimist.  Is there really a summit happening tomorrow?  I'd love to meet up for a brew!

by dfrancon on May 26, 2005 11:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

As I said above...
... if you're going to be in the bleachers, stop by and say hi!

by Al on May 27, 2005 3:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aw, sadly, I don't have bleacher tickets.
I'll raise a beer to you from my seat!

by dfrancon on May 27, 2005 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody going to Monday's Game in LA
I'll be at Chavez Ravine for the Dodgers-Cubs game. Any west coast readers going?

by Ross on May 26, 2005 11:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Chavez
I'll be in the right field bleachers...it's usually a Cubbie enclave. Let's hope the Cubs don't clog the bases with too many walks....

by perseman on May 27, 2005 7:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Winning might cure all
but man, the team looked lifeless and dejected out there today.  Very tight.  

Maybe they need a collective referral to ARod's therapist.  And I'm not really joking.  The players looked defeated before the game was over; I know the fans felt that way.  

I'm hoping for Prior to continue to step up when he needs to tomorrow, but, quite honestly, I'm much more concerned with him (and Z) making it through this season and staying healthy.  I don't think this team competes without yet another overhaul, and the next overhaul needs to include management.

I resent the inference that I'm not prepared. I live my life every minute every day to prepare for combat.

by Serena on May 27, 2005 1:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The offense on Thursday...
... which I characterized as "absurd"... brought this game to mind.

The Cubs lost to the Reds 5-4, but the key is the following PBP from the first inning:

CUBS 1ST: Patterson doubled to right; Stynes out on a sacrifice bunt (pitcher to first) [Patterson to third]; Sosa lined to shortstop; McGriff walked; Alou struck out; 0 R, 1 H, 0 E, 2 LOB.  Reds 0, Cubs 0.

Read that carefully -- and I remember how ridiculous it appeared at the time. Patterson led off the bottom of the first with a double -- and the next hitter laid down a sacrifice bunt.

IN THE FIRST INNING!

It was almost as if Don Baylor, the manager at the time, who we all derided for bunting at the drop of a hat, was begging to be fired. A week after this ridiculous stunt, the Cubs obliged him.

I wonder if Baker is doing the same thing.

by Al on May 27, 2005 3:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dusty Musty Go
Baker has always been more concerned with the upkeep of his reputation as a "players manager" than he has been with winning games. The job of a big league manager is to take whatever actions are necessary to afford his team the best chance to win each game they play. It's not to be popular. It's not to have a "hip" reputation. While a Harvard MBA is not required, any manager who doesn't grasp the concept that OBP correlates with runs scored is simply an incompetent. Baker obviously doesn't get this, and he should be sacked immediately.

by perseman on May 27, 2005 7:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cory
Last night on the score they had hitting coach Clines on and he said it was very hard to get young players today to listen to advice on hitting approach.Latter they mentioned that Cory had hired low life Boro's as his agent and implied that Cory's approach  to the leadoff spot was swing at everything until they moved him down in the batting order where he could drive in runs ,because RBI's would get him more money in arbitration than runs scored.I say put his sorry ass on the bench for 3 months and see what those stats get him this winter.

by jimhickman on May 27, 2005 7:16 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cory
 If this is true, I agree. And if hitters don't listen to the batting coach, bench them!
 When a baseball player listens to his agent more than his coach, the jig is up.

by Butchoh31 on May 27, 2005 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In case anyone had any doubt...
The Cubs see the fewest pitches per plate appearance in the major leagues at 3.58.

They are 27th in walk rate, and worst in the National League.

by dvdmgsr on May 27, 2005 9:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Kenny Lofton and Randall Simon
I miss them.

I also missing watching Patterson in a skybox during the 03 postseason.  He appeared to really miss playing in important games, and I read it as a sign he would come back hungry.  Now he seems to put all his energy into self-adulation.  How long until he fires up some salsa music?

by JCM on May 27, 2005 9:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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