Embarrassing
Watching the orange- and red- and yellow-clad day camp groups filing out of the upper deck in the middle innings of today's game, I mentioned to Mike I was reminded of a similar event in my life, forty years ago this summer.
I had come with the day camp I attended to a weekday game, and I remember being upset that they made us leave before the game was over.
It was no wonder that day: the Mets beat the Cubs 14-0 on July 29, 1965, and that was a 112-loss Mets team. And I hadn't remembered till I looked it up, that the 14-0 loss was the first game of a doubleheader!
But that Cubs team had two (and hopefully, someday, three) future Hall of Famers, and most days (not that one, though) you could go to the park feeling that Ernie, or Billy, or Ronnie, might hit a homer or two and the Cubs would at least make a ballgame of it.
The Cubs have had many bad teams since then, as you all well know. The 1974 team lost 96 games -- but you knew they were going to suck, after they'd finally broken up the late-60's gang the previous off-season.
The 1980 team lost 98 games, and they'd have lost more the next year if not for the strike. But we knew those teams had no talent -- guys like Mike Tyson and Ken Reitz and Steve Dillard played key roles, and even those teams had their moments -- I remember this 1981 game in particular, where the 11-36 Cubs played the 34-18 Dodgers and Fernando Valenzuela at the height of Fernandomania, and gave him the worst beating of his career to that date, with the crowning blow being a three-run homer by Tyson, who only hit two that year.
And there were the 1994 and 1997 and 1999 and 2000 and 2002 teams, 94+ loss teams (or would have been in 1994 if not for the next strike) all; but again, we knew ahead of time that those teams weren't really going to be any good. The most similar of that group to this year was the '99 squad, which started well and then quit on Jim Riggleman.
Which raises the question of whether this team has quit on Dusty Baker, and I'll address that later.
I mention all of this because in forty years of watching the Cubs on a nearly everyday basis via TV, and for the last twenty-five or so on a nearly everyday basis in person (and since 1997, pretty much every day), I don't think I've ever seen as poor an exhibition of baseball as I saw in today's pathetic 8-2 loss to the Reds.
There's no other way around it. It was pathetic. Barring the biggest miracle in baseball history, this season's playoff hopes have gone the way of Jody Gerut -- that is, here for a couple of weeks and then gone.
It was a nice sunny day; a cold front went through overnight with some brief booming thunderstorms, and then it cleared, with a gentle breeze off the lake, and a game-time temperature of a pleasant 81, instead of yesterday's 90.
That idyllic image was shattered on Rich Hill's first pitch of the game to Ryan Freel, which was sent into the family section for a 1-0 Reds lead. With homer machine Eric Milton on the mound, I figured one run wouldn't win the game.
And when Michael Barrett homered in the second to tie the game, I figured Milton's number was up and the Cubs would start bashing him around the yard.
Wrong! The next fifteen Cub hitters made out. In the meantime, the Reds put up a seven-run inning, and I'm going to take the blame. I had to go over to left field to drop off some tickets for tomorrow's game that I'd gotten for friends of my friend Ron, and I was leaving them with Tim in LF. I hadn't been to LF during a game since the 1990 All-Star Game, when I had my ticket there.
I did this right when the fourth-inning walkathon was happening. When I got back to my seat, I asked Mike, "Have they thrown a strike since I left?" He just shook his head.
Ten walks. That is simply unacceptable for any major league team, and six in one inning is bordering on the ridiculous. The only other time I saw a team walk six batters in one inning was this game, a White Sox-Red Sox game started by Charlie Hough, a knuckleballer, for heaven's sake, and they were consecutive walks -- and the White Sox staff walked fifteen batters that day and won the game anyway, 7-6.
I love Retrosheet -- don't you? The play-by-play of that game is well worth reading, incidentally. Check it out.
Someone who was in that game -- Wade Boggs -- was at Wrigley Field today, along with Ryne Sandberg, to sing "Take Me Out To The Ballgame", which Boggs did in a pretty mediocre Harry Caray-style voice. By the time he sang, half the crowd had left, and most of the rest left afterwards. In fact, there was a pretty large exodus after the Reds' fourth inning, about the earliest I've seen in recent years.
Incidentally, when Wayne Messmer announced that Boggs and Sandberg were singing, he called Sandberg a "future Hall-of-Famer", which prompted Jeff (who came anyway, even though he was supposed to be housepainting today) to say, "Guess Joe Morgan skipped the induction ceremony for nothing."
Gallows humor. That's what we've been reduced to.
There's no reason to go over any further details of today's game -- the bullpen did throw five hitless innings after all was lost, but so what. We sat there basically in stunned silence, although there were some younger guys behind us who spent most of the day spewing venom at Corey Patterson, Dusty Baker, and just about any other target they could find.
Speaking of Patterson -- I have to agree with Chuck today. Patterson's attitude is, as it seems to have been from day one, that he's entitled to a major league job without having to work hard, without having to listen to instruction, and without having to make adjustments when situations call for them.
Patterson has talent. But he's got to go. Today, he regressed again; we were flipping a coin on his fifth-inning at-bat when it got to two strikes -- looking or swinging?
I said, "What difference does it make?" It didn't. He looked at strike three. Trade him NOW while he still has some value. He'll be 26 on Saturday. That's way beyond "potential".
Mike and I got into a discussion about Baker. I still think there's no particular reason to fire him at this time. This is Jim Hendry's team -- he's the one who constructed it and gave it to Baker. Yes, I admit -- as I said to Howard, who didn't come today but called right after the game, and who disagreed with me -- this team was likely a .500 ballclub who, with a few breaks, might have contended. And they did, actually, for four months, with the wheels not only fallen off now, but spinning wildly down Addison Street.
What has to be done for the rest of this season is for the ballplayers themselves to pick up and play for professional pride, if nothing else, at least give the paying customers a decent show for the money, and maybe try to be that .500 ballclub. Dusty Baker may be a convenient scapegoat -- it's way easier to fire one guy than 25 -- but he is not the problem with this team. I expect him to be here at least through the end of his contract.
Nor do I think the players have quit on Baker -- some of them aren't really that good, and guys like Derrek Lee and Aramis Ramirez desperately need days off. I do NOT believe Aramis is dogging it -- if he appears to be, I believe it's because the nagging hammy injury is slowing him down -- and why on Earth Dusty left Lee and Ramirez in the game today after the sixth inning is beyond me. Lee can probably barely get out of bed these days after carrying a baseball team on his back for four months. Give the poor guy a day off.
There are many things that can be done to improve the ballclub over the winter -- you guys have already started the discussion in the diaries (and remember, BCB isn't going anywhere in the off-season -- I'll be posting here every day), and I'm sure I'll hear an earful of them from Phil on Sunday (and no, Phil, Rich Hill isn't the answer either), but right now, if I were Hendry, I'd be on the phone trying to get whatever I could for Matt Lawton and Jeromy Burnitz. The Yankees could be interested in either one of them. Lawton's a free agent and gone, and though there's an option on Burnitz, I wouldn't bother with it. I believe the infield will return intact -- though as you all have debated, there isn't much doubt that though Michael Barrett is a good offensive player, his defense (and I'm not talking about fielding percentage, I'm talking about his game-calling ability and ability to throw out runners) leaves us really missing Damian Miller.
That leaves perhaps a completely new outfield and new bullpen, and maybe a starting pitcher or two. There ought to be 10-12 new faces on the 2006 twenty-five man roster.
Know what Howard signed off his call with me by saying?
"They'll probably win three of four from the Cardinals."
That's unlikely, of course. But two weeks ago, did you see an eight-game losing streak in the wings?
This is why we love the game -- because it is so unpredictable, because each and every day you go to the ballpark, you might see some historic event, or some quirky little thing, or see someone's stupid sign (Today, I saw one that said "HERE'S YUR SIGN" -- spelled exactly that way. Can't figure that one out.), and enjoy baseball, the greatest sport ever created.
In our disappointment and frustration, let's not ever forget that.
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Al, I appreciate your observations
This is sad. But I'll tell you what: there is a part of me thinking that knowing we won't make the playoffs, barring a miracle, almost feels better than a heartbreak like 2004. I hope I don't always feel that way, because it's more fun being in the hunt, but for now, that is how I feel.
It is true...
It's hard NOT to do that. The mark of a winner is when you can put that aside and fight through it.
There are 48 games left, and I'd like to at least think they could go 27-21 and finish .500.
Love the optimism...
Wow...
I suppose it's possible, but I do expect them to right the ship at least enough to play back to .500.
Remember, no team is as good as it looks during a long winning streak, and no team is as bad as it looks during a long losing streak.
Though, this team has looked pretty darn bad.
Good point...
Attitude
IMO, attitude is contagious. When a winning attitude is in the dugout and on the field, we've all seen mediocre players become superstars. The same is true in reverse.
This (in addition to his boneheaded moves) is why I blame Dusty. He's not going to light a fire under these guys because he goes from above-it-all to feeling sorry-for-himself.
You are right: our focus should be on the team not Dusty, and IMO, it would be if Dusty's focus was on the team and not Dusty.
wasn't me ...
Not me...
by sparkles721 on Aug 10, 2005 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Might not have been any of us
As for Dusty Baker, if you really wanted to, you could lay the blame for all of this at his feet. Prior, Wood, and Z might be pitching lights out and uninjured through every season if they didn't throw 10,000 pitches a game in '03; poor fundamentals, sloppy fielding, and poor approaches at the plate might have been corrected by a better coaching staff than the one Dusty brought with him. Lee and Ramirez ... well, maybe another manager would let them take a rest before they actually collapse on the field in a pile of disjointed limbs.
Anyway, those are nice excuses for those like me who like the players on the team. It's hard to see Mark Prior struggle and think he might just be a pitcher who struggles periodically. It's hard to see Patterson "swinging or looking?" and not believe that something better might have been. It's tough to see Lee slumping after the way he tore up the league, and to admit he's probably not suffering so much from exhaustion as from regression to the mean.
I think this team is a lot better than they've been playing lately, and if they don't find a way to climb back to .500, it'll be hard to take ... and probably mean the manager and coaches will need to go after all, consdering the talent they seem to be squandering.
I'd like to see all of it proven wrong: All five starters pitching the way we know they can, the kids in the pen fulfilling their promise, Lee proving that the first half of this season was not just a fluke but the real him, Nomar playing like Nomar and magically avoiding injury.... At this point, they might not catch the 'Stros or the Cards even if everything goes right, but I'd still love to see them play that way, even if they fall short in the end. They are better than they're playing right now ... but whether a better manager could have made them so or not, they're also not as good as the fantasy. If they get above .500, we can enjoy the run at least. If they don't ... well, we'll have to see.
by Loon from Left on Aug 11, 2005 3:05 AM CDT up reply actions
The Cubs will come back when
Their announcers commented on this today, about how their starters and bullpen had been pitching of late.
Especially during their road streak, which I think they had won 8 straight.
I don't think the Reds are THAT much better than the Cubs, overall.
The Cubs are in a horrible slump, dragged down by the weak bullpen and the fact that Derrek Lee is slumping and tired. But as a professional athlete who has been their offensive leader, he's not going to quit.
Ramirez is hurting. It probably hurts him to swing.
Garciaparra looks like he is coming out of it. He has the ability to be the leader of this team.
I think the guys are trying very hard, but they can't get all the pieces to fit and
They don't have someone to show them how!
Leadership...
Nomar
cubs will come back when
will have some sort of winning streak. I think it was Tommy Lasorda who said almost every team will lose 60 and win 60, it is what you do with those other 42 games.
SI
by mike bornemann @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 10, 2005 8:51 PM CDT reply actions
Exactly...
BCB
One question I do have is whether you have any news/updates on the minor leaguers. It was only a couple of years we had one of the best systems in baseball, but now it seems like none of our prospects are even close to breaking through. What ever happened to Pinto? Didn't he pitch wonderfullly for four innings in spring training? Is Guzman injured again? Isn't Brownlie good enough even for a bullpen spot in a really horrible bullpen? Is Nolasco struggling again in triple A? OK. I guess thats many questions. SOrry if you've posted this before and I've missed it.
Clarification
Actually...
I hope..
by sparkles721 on Aug 10, 2005 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Dopirak...
If you're looking for a longshot callup, maybe Brandon Sing.
Nomar a Juicer?
Hendry has to make big decisions in the off season regarding SS. If Nomar does not prove his worth in the next 50 games, he must be let go. Neifi is under .300 OBP. Cedeno has significant upside. So the bottom line is, if Nomar does not look like the Bosox Nomar in the last 50 games, Nomar should be let go, Neifi should be made a utility IF, and Cedeno should be the 2006 opening day SS.
Oh god...
I haven't seen anything yet from Ronny Cedeno, who is 21 years old, that tells me that he should be the starting SS on a team that is considering being a playoff contender in 2006.
Unless Nomar appears to be totally done -- and I don't think he is -- I'd sign him to an incentive-laden deal with a pair of option years.
Don't Hate the Messenger
While my suggestion is politically incorrect, you cannot blame me for raising the question. If Nomar shows over the next 50 games that he has the abilty to regain his Bosox form, then yes, by all means sign him to an incentive laden deal. But in the current environment, you shouldn't hate the messenger for raising the question. Would you have similarly castigated me for raising questions about Rafael Palmeiro?
If my comments are so out of line, why was there no team who was willing to give Nomar a long term deal at the conclusion of 2004?
Hmm..
by sparkles721 on Aug 10, 2005 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
No, a mention of Raffy would not bring that
A tad sensitive?
It's just that that (unfounded) rumor got it's time in the sun long ago and was as useless then as it is now.
You can't really go back and look at every ball player that has ever been in good shape and accuse them of steroid use. Hell, I remember working out pretty hard for 6 months or so when I was trying to date a girl not near as hot as Mia. My softball homers dramatically decreased afterwards, I hurt my knee the next year, and I changed teams. Think I was on the 'roids????
by BCurt10 on Aug 11, 2005 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Nomar is a workout
Wood
by jimhickman on Aug 11, 2005 6:56 AM CDT reply actions
Here's Yur Sign
He says that if some people had signs that said "I'm stupid" we might be a little more understanding of their ridiculous behavior.
I'm sure he's suggesting the Cubs need such a sign.
by Jaxxonfan on Aug 11, 2005 8:54 AM CDT reply actions
Interestingly...
Talk about dumbing-down.
Love the Cubs
They disappoint, but never in the expected way. So, this year it is an early collapse. In a sense, it had to be, since they always provide an unexpected disappointment.
And that's OK. The Cubs and summer go together, and the disappointment and hopes for the future are always part of it. This summer is like all the other summers, and somehow I'm happy knowing that.
by routinepopfly on Aug 11, 2005 9:30 AM CDT reply actions

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