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Kiss It Goodbye

Over the course of several seasons in the 1970's, 1980's and 1990's, I saw a total of seventeen games at Busch Stadium.

Some of them were memorable, as when the Cubs swept a doubleheader there in 1984 to clinch a tie for the NL East title; or the June 8, 1992 game in which Jim Bullinger hit the first major league pitch he saw for a home run; (the Cubs swept that DH too).

The only home run ball I ever caught during a game came in St. Louis, hit by Leon Durham on July 4, 1982.

And now, the Cubs have finished forty years of visits to Busch Stadium, as it will be imploded -- maybe by a Cub fan! -- once the Cardinals have finished postseason play this year.

It hasn't been kind to the Cubs, particularly over the last ten years -- 21-51 since 1996 -- but this season, the going-nowhere Cubs won five of the eight games played between the two teams in St. Louis, and completed their third series win against the Cardinals since the All-Star break (no other club has won a series against St. Louis since then) with a satisfying 2-1 win, accomplishing in doing so, Greg Maddux' 12th victory of the season, and also vesting Maddux' $9 million option for 2006 when he passed the 187.2 inning mark for this year by striking out Hector Luna for the second out in the fourth inning.

Maddux was, in fact, vintage in this game, despite having to be yanked in the sixth after throwing 92 pitches on a warmer-than-usual September evening. After the Cubs had taken the lead 2-0 in the second on a Michael Barrett single, a Neifi double and Matt Murton single (all runs scoring with two out, I might add), the Cardinals loaded the bases with nobody out in the third.

Greg induced a comebacker which he turned into a slick 1-2-3 double play, and then struck out John Mabry to end the inning.

Apart from the traditional Albert Pujols homer, which cut the lead to 2-1, that was about the closest the Cardinals came to scoring. Ryan Dempster (24th save) made it interesting by allowing a leadoff infield single in the ninth; the pinch-runner eventually went to third, but Dempster got the pesty David Eckstein to ground out and got Abraham Nunez on one of those "umpires-wanna-get-out-of-here" called third strikes to end the game.

I can't say enough about the job Dempster has done. Since being moved to the bullpen after his last start on May 4, he has put up the following numbers:

47 IP, 41 H, 14 R, 12 ER, 1 HR, 22 BB, 38 K, 4-0 record, 24 saves (in 26 opportunities), 2.30 ERA.

That matches up favorably with ANY closer in baseball, and this despite the fact that he wasn't anointed closer until 31 games had been played. The 24 saves ranks 11th in the NL -- and he essentially "missed" 20% of the season.

Unless Kerry Wood wants to close -- and that is still not a "closed" question -- I'd make sure to re-sign Dempster for this role, because not only has he done a good job, but he appears to "get it", i.e. he's one of those few players who really understands what baseball is about, the relationship between players and fans, etc.

Plus, he's hilarious. During a player Q&A in Mesa during spring training, he cracked up fans and players alike with his jokes and his dead-on impression of Harry Caray. I think he could eventually become a clubhouse leader.

And, he'd be way cheaper to re-sign than to go out and sign Billy Wagner, not to mention that Wagner is six years older.

So, the Cubs leave old Busch Stadium behind forever -- I say "old" because the new park will bear the same name -- and actually should look forward to the four-game series vs. St. Louis at Wrigley Field next weekend, since they are 8-4 against the Cardinals this season.

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Ahh the memories
I was 18 when I went to go see the Cards take on the Braves I think it was.  We were visiting family in Southern Illinois (for the love of christ the "S" is silent!!!) and if anyone has ever been down there by the border you'll know they aren't privvy too Cubbie fans. Anyway though, what a beautiful park, and the people were cool too, I practically got a free hot dog from the guys sitting next to us.

My grandfather (native to Southern Illinois) took me down there once before, but I was much too young to remember. Good times though. Glad to see the Cubbies walk out of there on a the winning side. (at least for the '05 season)

I'm not going to play because I can, know what I mean? I'll play because I deserve it. -Greg Maddux

by priorpwnz on Sep 8, 2005 11:30 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wonder...
If MLB will schedule the Cubs to open new Busch next spring.

New Stadium opening + High profile rivalry = Very likely

But knowing Bud's (selig, not beer) MLB, they'll open it against some team with little draw, like say, the Brewers or Pirates. At least the NFL opened the new Soldier Field with a MNF game against the Pack, which made me groan because usually Bears vs Pack + MNF = Embarrassing Bears Loss.

If the Cubs could get out of an inning by taking less than 3 pitches, they would.

by CherryPoppinCubbies on Sep 8, 2005 11:51 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Schedules...
... the Cubs usually guard theirs like a CIA secret. In fact, given the CIA's troubles lately, maybe better.

Clue: the White Sox released their home schedule yesterday. They open the season at home, which implies the Cubs will open on the road. St. Louis makes as good sense as anywhere.

by Al on Sep 8, 2005 11:58 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Busch
I can't see them opening the season against the Cubs. It's likely that the Cards will sell out most of next season w/ a new ballpark but the opening series is a guarenteed sell-out as is the series with the Cubs. Putting the two of them together would be a waste. It would be a better idea to have them open against, say, Pittsburgh. The Pirates-Cards series is nothing special but having it the opener is a guarenteed sell-out.

I'd also guess that the Cards home opener will be a week or so into the season. Teams of late have opened their ballpark w/ two exhibition games then hit the road to open the season. This gives them a week or so to fix all the problems that came up during the exhibition games, figure out traffic flows, etc.

As for the old Busch Stadium, I went to two games there and definitely enjoyed the ballpark. I never saw it pre-renovation, but it had a great atmosphere, though the seats were pretty far from the field. Cards fans were solid and this ballpark was pretty high up on my list of favorites.

DmL

by dmlichte on Sep 8, 2005 1:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ding! Ding! Ding!
"It's likely that the Cards will sell out most of next season w/ a new ballpark but the opening series is a guarenteed sell-out as is the series with the Cubs. Putting the two of them together would be a waste."

By George I think you've got it!

This is the same reason why the Brewers get the Cubs on weekdays, not weekends.

Cards will open with someone like Washington.  Or Cinci.

by Ivychat on Sep 8, 2005 2:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

on dempster
he's done a bangup job -- but we shouldn't pretend that dempster is a great closer. since july 1, he's compiled a 2.45 era -- great -- but a 1.68 whip, with 16 walks to go with 16 k's. control has always been a dempster problem, and continues to be. his tendency to put men on will, in time, bite him in the ass and inflate that era like a balloon. having only allowed 6 of the last 37 men he put on to score is more a function of luck than skill, as it is for any pitcher who allows so many baserunners.

compare that to wagner, who is halfway to unhittable with fine control to boot, who has compiled a 0.92 whip over his last 337 innings -- a five year span -- and there really is no comparison. wagner is a great closer; dempster, merely having a fortunate 50 innings.

by gaius marius on Sep 8, 2005 12:35 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Since May 11th when he actually took over the
closer's role his whip is 1.34, not bad.  

No he isn't Wagner, but I don't want Wagner for his price tag. Dempster has proven that he can do it as long as he is healthy and he has earned that much.

"You know what God told the cubs. Don't do anything until I get back!" Pete Rose

by Will71081 on Sep 8, 2005 12:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah
God forbid that the Cubs actually spend money that have in bushells on All Stars.  Why have Billy Wagner when you can have Ryan Dempster?

Why have Miguel Tejada when you already have Alex Gonzalez?

Why have Jim Thome when you can have Choi and Karros?

Why have Carlos Beltran when you can have Korey Patterson.

by Ivychat on Sep 8, 2005 4:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Of the ones you mention...
... do you really want to give Wagner, who is 35, a $60 million contract?

The Thome thing, you may be right about, but we do have Derrek Lee.

Tejada wouldn't have signed with the Cubs.

Please don't make the Beltran argument. Yes, Patterson sucks. Would you have paid Beltran $120 million? I wouldn't, and he hasn't put that much production on the field this year, now has he?

It's NOT all about money. It's about spending money wisely. The Cubs haven't always done this.

And free agency isn't the only place to find talent.

by Al on Sep 8, 2005 5:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's see
"Tejada wouldn't have signed with the Cubs."

Yeah.  No way he wants to play with Sosa and Alou in 2004.

"Please don't make the Beltran argument"

Why?  Because it's so painfull?  Trading for Beltran last year not only would have won the Wild Card, but also possibly won the division.  Getting him in June would have eliminated Houston right then.

"... do you really want to give Wagner, who is 35, a $60 million contract?"

If that's what it takes to win in 2006?  Yes.  Then again, I only have a good times at games if my team wins.  And I'm only worried about next year.  And I know that the Cubs can afford it with $60 million of ANNUAL payroll coming off in the next 13 months.

"It's about spending money wisely."

Spending $7 million on A Gonz instead of spending an extra $13 million on Tejada sent $100 million in payroll down the drain.

Spending $7 million on Karros and not $13mm on Thome cost big in 2003 and 2004.

Not spending $2mm on Urbina cost the World Series in 2003.

Not only do the Cubs not spend enough, they cheap out unwisely.

by Ivychat on Sep 8, 2005 5:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Before the game
Before the game, the Cardinals gave the Cubs organization a Tiffany (or was it Franklin Mint?) created miniature replica of the current Busch Stadium on account of it being their last match together there and all.  It was mounted on a piece of wood, like a plaque.

The thing looked like an ash tray.  I thought it was hysterical, but apparently no one else in my section thought so.

Overall it was a good time.  Mr. & Mrs. 1047 spent some time in the upper deck Tuesday with a couple from Portage, Indiana...fellow travellers a la Henry Chadwick.

Wednesday we were stuck under the luxury boxes.  Technically closer to the field, but it was like keeping score in the dark.  No lights.

Good riddance, Busch.  

You know, if you build 'em right, they'll last longer.

by drone1047 on Sep 8, 2005 4:44 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lottery
Cubs should have an internet lottery and allow the winner to blow up the mini-Busch plaque....

by 08Cubs on Sep 8, 2005 10:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mad Dog!
He is getting close.  Just three more. I think he can have the exact same record he did last year. I have decided that when Maddux goes into the Hall I'm going to go.  
Cubbie blue always sPaRkLeS in my eyes.

by sparkles721 on Sep 8, 2005 4:50 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Madog in HOF
I will meet you there but he will be wearing a Braves cap darn it

Jessica

by jessica on Sep 8, 2005 11:52 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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