Advice For The Cublorn

No, that's wrong. You can panic now.
Mike & I went to see Spamalot last night -- he had missed the show when our merry little bleacher band went to see it last year, and so with its touring-company return last year, I decided it was worth seeing again.
Thus, I missed the announcement that Derrek Lee has two fractured bones in his wrist, and will be out for eight to ten weeks.
There's no way to put a positive spin on this. All of you know what Lee means to this team, and missing that much time means somewhere between 55 and 70 games -- between 1/3 and 1/2 of the season -- and unless the rest of the team suddenly picks up this slack, the Cubs will struggle to score runs and thus, struggle to win, for the next two months.
It appears at this writing that Michael Restovich will have his contract purchased from Iowa to replace Lee. Note, I mention "contract purchased" rather than "recalled". Restovich is not on the 40-man roster. Someone will either have to be dropped, or more likely, if Lee is going to be out more than two months, he'll be placed on the 60-day DL; players on the 60-day are not counted against the 40-man roster limit.
Restovich had a good spring and was the last man cut. He's not a great player, but was at one time one of the Twins' better prospects, and he does have a lifetime .281/.336/.467 (.802 OPS) line vs. LHP. John Mabry, who hits lefthanded, is .269/.329/.422 (.751 OPS) vs. RHP.
That could make a passable platoon. No, it's not Lee, and it's especially not Lee defensively; Restovich has never played 1B at the major league level, and having seen him play there in spring training... well, he's not very good.
At some point, Jim Hendry might try to acquire someone. But on April 21, his options are slim and none. Teams just don't make deals for starting first basemen in April.
I would much rather see this platoon than see Todd Walker at 1B -- where you'd lose defensively as well -- and a Neifi/Hairston platoon at 2B, where you'd experience a significant offensive dropoff from a Mabry/Restovich platoon.
What more can be said? It happened. It sucks. But baseball continues.
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This is my concern
I think, given this latest development, we can not afford NOT to have Walker's bat in the lineup every day. I don't care where he plays--stick him at first, stick him at second, let him ride piggyback on JHJ at second, I DON'T CARE. Given the offensive output we are going to have to make up, I don't know how you possibly keep Walker out of the lineup.
Yet I keep hearing "Put Murton at first," "put Mabry at first," "Restovich can play first," etc. Are people nuts? We just lost one of the best hitters in the game, and we are still going to platoon Walker and JHJ at @#*&@#$@ second base?!?!?!!?!?! I can't even believe that the Cubs are considering putting anyone other than Walker at first.
Is it too early for a drink?
Just saw this
"Todd Walker, who took over for Lee at first to finish Wednesday's game, likely will take over on a full-time basis, with John Mabry backing him up. That would open more playing time at second base for Jerry Hairston Jr. and Neifi Perez."
http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/211sd2.htm
So maybe I can stop panicking.
Well, maybe...
Relax. The Cubs haven't even played a game yet without Lee.
Cubs will have to take it one day at a time
That's why...
by evillecubman on Apr 21, 2006 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Sworn enemy...
by Shawon O Meter on Apr 21, 2006 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
OT
I also got a call from the daycare director because they had some parents touring the facility the other day, and the dad was wearing a White Sox jersey. They kept hearing this little 3-year old voice yelling "White Sox STINK!!!!" Over and over, but couldn't figure out where it was coming from. Yep. . . it was my child. Who was defiant even when reprimanded by the daycare director for telling someone that their team "stinks," saying simply "Cubs are da best!"
How proud am I? Three years old and already heckling White Sox fans! :)
That's awesome.
Lincoln strained his eyes and looked at the logo intensely. Then his eyebrows lifted and with widened eyes he said, "Big C! Cubs is Big C!!"
Kids. Gotta love 'em
How about Karros?
C'mon Jim! Please?!?!?!?!
Yeah,
by The Boar on Apr 21, 2006 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
lol
i have to say -- and this isn't to start bickering or whatever -- that the cubs have long suffered for a lack of quality in construction that makes injuries a ready excuse for collapse. good teams can work through this kind of thing -- remember the cards losing rolen, sanders and walker all for more than half of the year? and winning 100 games anyway? it doesn't seem so much to ask the cubs to win 85 in spite of lee's loss.
now i agree -- if they lost pujols like we lost lee, they'd be in trouble too. and i give credit to hendry this year for replacing useless parts like macias with modestly useful parts like mabry.
but this team is now in a serious bind because -- while its bench is improved -- its starting lineup wasn't strong enough to begin with.
losing lee wouldn't be so devastating if brian giles (or his equivalent -- i'm not being particular) were in right and/or rafael furcal or julio lugo were at short and/or kevin millwood were in the rotation. losing rolen, walker and sanders didn't hurt so badly because the cards also had pujols and edmonds, and they scored 805 runs anyway.
and they had stocked their bench with reasonably high-quality backups like taguchi and luna. this is where mabry and hairston come in -- the cub bench is better this year than last.
anyway -- then gadflys like me were harping on and on about how the cubs needed to do more, to get stronger -- this is what we (or at least i) was talking about. teams rarely survive a year intact; you have to plan on winning without your best player. the cubs just aren't in that position, and i hope that some who disparaged calls for more quality players now at least understand why those calls were being made.
by gaius marius on Apr 21, 2006 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't ever
he
by ksucubbie on Apr 21, 2006 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions
you had
by ksucubbie on Apr 21, 2006 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions
blogging is like butchery
in this case -- if you leave your work out in the open air and light of day long enough, sooner or later it's going to attract some flies. :)
by gaius marius on Apr 21, 2006 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Who's Kurt?
by BCurt10 on Apr 21, 2006 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
A
by ksucubbie on Apr 21, 2006 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
you have to frequent the comments
by gaius marius on Apr 21, 2006 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
it's right here:
And it's a pretty great blog I think - just found it. It's no BCB (sorry gaius), but it's very good. I love the Neifi-O-Meter.
by NC Cubs Fan on Apr 21, 2006 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
lol
ouch calling the 04 a for sure thing for kerry--
hopefully you are as wrong this year and we can somehow conted with 3 of our most talented players on the DL
ah what it is to be a cubs fan
by ksucubbie on Apr 21, 2006 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
what can i say?
by gaius marius on Apr 21, 2006 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Cool!
Altho, I'd like MINE to be a nihilist. Those Nazi's are boring.
by BCurt10 on Apr 21, 2006 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
if
Hmmm....
I have a feeling that trades aren't even on the radar right now, sadly. I can dream, though. :-)
It doesn't really hurt until they start losing, right? Always keep hope alive, bros!!!
Anyhow, I'm still dying to actually get to my first live game this year!!!!!!!!!!!!
by The Jade Scorpion on Apr 21, 2006 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Just saw that....
Didn't know it was that bad. The latest injury update in my fantasy league had them day-to-day. Good thing I didn't draft them........phew!
Must.....look......elsewhere.......
Am I allowed to say the Cubs flushed money down the toilet with Lee? Or is that forbidden for anyone in a Cubs uniform and applicable only to free agents and trade block players from other teams they don't sign/acquire who then get injured?
Or perhaps they didn't flush money down the toilet with Lee and the diehard Hendry defenders should cut the same slack to Furcal, et al?
Sometimes injuries happen. Usually, a good player returns to form. Not just the ones who wear a Cubs uniform......
by The Jade Scorpion on Apr 21, 2006 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
what?
Relax, dude.
Really, though, it's probably not a good idea to dismiss a good player's career after they get injured; you never know when it might happen to a Cubbie you're not ready to see retire just yet.....
Good players do tend to come back from injuries and continue good careers. And I'm not just talking about good players who play in Wrigley. If anything good comes from this injury, perhaps I can get the Hendry diehards to stop declaring good players the Cubs didn't get "finished" because of injury.
Now let's hope Lee heals quickly, and that Hendry has a move up his sleeve earlier than his history suggests.
by The Jade Scorpion on Apr 21, 2006 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Lugo is on the DL right now
Oh I see
by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Apr 21, 2006 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
That blows.
by Sidd Finch @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Apr 21, 2006 8:57 AM CDT reply actions
One name not yet discussed
He's more of a DH than a first baseman, but he could certainly do well in a platoon or as an added bat off the bench. Although he had a disappointing year last year with the A's before being injured, the guy can hit.
by The Boar on Apr 21, 2006 8:58 AM CDT reply actions
He was bad
we're in tough straits
by gaius marius on Apr 21, 2006 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Choi available and should cost nothing
now I don't have time to read them and could not
last night. Why not try Choi. Red Sox have ZERO need of him
and would probably be happy to dump his salary for a prospect.
They don't need 3 first baseman.
I for one worry less about losing Lee's bat than his glove
right now. You can't have Walker there on more than
a very temporary basis.
by jessica on Apr 21, 2006 9:11 AM CDT reply actions
Choi not a good option
by ontheuptick on Apr 21, 2006 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Choi Vs. Hairston/Mabry
Hairston .261/.334/.371
Mabry .269/.325/.412
Choi will never be the All-Star that it was thought he was going to be but he's can be a solid hitter.
by jolietconvict on Apr 21, 2006 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought he had a good glove
myself and real first baseman. I actually think
the Red Sox would give him back for paying his salary
and a 12th round draft pick as they have NOWHERE
to put him. He was suppossed to be finished rehabbing
How is his fielding ? I am a delusional that he was
decent?
by jessica on Apr 21, 2006 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
They claimed him off waivers and can't use him
bottom on the waivers list meaning pretty much everyone
passed on him. He will make $725,000 this year.
They literally have no spot for him so I can't believe they
would not be happy to dump him before in fact trying
to put him back on waivers. I admit I don't remember
the nature of the injury that has him on DL but it sounded
minor at the time. Not much to lose here. I simply
don't think you can go 2 to 3 months without a
"real" first baseman.
by jessica on Apr 21, 2006 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
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But it's never gonna happen. How would you like to be returned to the team that first screwed you over for the sake of the CrimeDog Stats March and then the following year played Karros more than his platoon justified, pushed you to the bench with Mr. Italian Sausage, and capped it off by leaving you off the playoff roster.
"Hey, Dude, remember me?"
Somehow, I don't think Choi has forgotten.
we needed
by mike bornemann @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Apr 21, 2006 9:23 AM CDT reply actions
anything's possible
by gaius marius on Apr 21, 2006 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions
recall 2003
good teams will find a way, bad teams will fold up shop. we'll see what we have here over the next month or so. one of baker's strengths (one of his only ones, as far as i'm concerned) is getting through things like this, motivating his backups, etc.
agreed there
a lot has happened in recent seasons -- boombox smashing in the clubhouse, petulance on the field -- that has made me question is dusty is worth anything even at that.
but if he manages a cohesive winner out of this lot, i'd be mightily impressed.
by gaius marius on Apr 21, 2006 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
This is where Baker's strengths lie...
That's pretty much what happened in 2003. The 2004 team lacked that, and last year was a disaster.
It's not saying too much to state that Eric Karros and Damian Miller were the glue that made the 2003 team run. Now, I'm not saying you have to get those two back to win. But you have to have players LIKE that.
Juan Pierre is one such player. There may be others on this team, who have not yet stepped up.
They're going to have to now.
Not so sure about that....
Personally, I think his previous success as a player's manager is mostly (all?) luck. He took a team of individuals to the World Series in 2002 (Bonds, Kent), and the 2004 Cubs team wasn't that different than the 2003 team. Minus Miller and Karros, sure; but plus team players Walker, Maddux, and Barrett. One more win in 04 than 03, just stronger competition in the Cards.
If Baker's success is mostly due to luck..
luck, aka...
Not that it isn't possible to screw that up, but it never hurts. For all the complaining I hear about him not having a good enough roster at his disposal to win here in Chicago, do we use the same logic and take the sheen off of the success that he had in San Francisco? You can't have it both ways.
by dustyisdonnie on Apr 21, 2006 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Best player...
the '03 Cubs
My point isn't that having a great player guarantees a championship -- that's obvious from looking at Barry Bonds' trophy case, which has a lot of MVPs but no rings. But I think that the true impact of a manager is tough to judge, and we at least need to look at the tools that he had at his disposal. Personally, I feel like he could have done better, though at the end of the day I also feel that talent and luck have a hell of a lot more to do with getting to the postseason and winning it, respectively.
I don't know how much of a team's success is linked to the way that they're coached; nobody does. But a lot of folks that defend Dusty bring out the argument that he can't win without good players (true). Isn't it fair to say that, on the flip side of that argument, a lot of his success is due to the talent that he has at his disposal?
by dustyisdonnie on Apr 21, 2006 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
It is possible
I'm not saying this is exactly what happened in '03. But it shouldn't be assumed that b/c less wins won a division, it's a poor division.
I'm not sayin'. I'm just sayin'.
by BCurt10 on Apr 21, 2006 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
well, yes...
You play the hand you're dealt, and in that case, 88 wins gets you to the playoffs. Why they got to 88 wins, I'll leave for another day.
by dustyisdonnie on Apr 21, 2006 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
actually, the bulls
coaching at the top level is all about not screwing it up. the players on the field win. a good coach makes sure they and he don't screw it up.
i watched dusty screw up game 6 so badly that i wanted to puke. he can cram his awards where the sun don't shine -- awards don't make him good, they prove the gullibility of the voters.
by gaius marius on Apr 21, 2006 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Dusty?
Prior was destined to give up Y number of runs that year. The Cubs were destined to lose Z number of home games. You were destined to puke N number of times that year.
Just kidding, of course. I'm sure there is statistical evidence that Dusty made the wrong moves that game... or no-one would dare question them.
Coaches/Managers can have bad and good years (games, innings, at bats) too. Just like players. Sometimes the group of players on a team just click. Sometimes the coach/manager clicks with them. Sometimes a bad mangaer can do a good job. Or an average manager can do a GREAT job. And, sometimes GOOD managers can do BAD jobs.
Sports does not build character, it reveals it. A good leader will bring the best out of those in his charge, more often than not. Dusty has won with a variety of teams. While I strongly disagree w/ many of his moves, I give him credit for what he's accomplished.
I don't believe for a second that he managed to just "not screw it up" every time his team won.
by BCurt10 on Apr 21, 2006 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
well...
by dustyisdonnie on Apr 21, 2006 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
That was tonue-in-cheek
by BCurt10 on Apr 21, 2006 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
aah. whoops...
by dustyisdonnie on Apr 21, 2006 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Too much 2003 baggage
Sometimes we forget we're all on the same side. We ALL want the Cubs to win. Even the evil Ivychat (kidding, Chuck.) We just all have our different ways of expressing it. We have different opinions on what the Cubs should do. We have different views on what Cubs players are capable of.
I suppose we would be pretty bored and have nothing to bicker about if we all were of the same mind in these matters.
by BCurt10 on Apr 21, 2006 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
by gaius marius on Apr 21, 2006 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Not screwing up...
While the manager of the year award is probably not the most objective measure, it is voted on by longtime baseball observers who feel that that particular manager did the best job with the talent he had over the course of a 162 game season. To say that poor management of one game is proof that the voters are gullible is laughable.
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Dusty and Doug have the same number of championship rings. Phil's working toward getting some for his toes.
The idea that there's any similarity between Dusty Baker and Phil Jackson is absurd. The latter is a champion. The former, well, the Doug Collins of baseball.
a cohesive team like in san francisco?
no manager steps back and lets a team manage itself to victory.
by DSZ on Apr 21, 2006 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
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What you're basically saying is that for Baker to be successful, he needs to be irrelevant.
The mark of a good manager is the ability to take individuals and meld them into a team. Baker failed horribly the past two years at this. And it's a big part of why I want to see him replaced.
very true
by mike bornemann @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Apr 21, 2006 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Excellent point Sarah.
by Sidd Finch @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Apr 21, 2006 9:33 AM CDT reply actions
depressed
by Sidd Finch @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Apr 21, 2006 9:35 AM CDT reply actions
I'm going
It won't be Rusch's fault
Rusch pitches tomorrow
by jessica on Apr 21, 2006 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
He might....
by BillHoldenFan on Apr 21, 2006 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
or...
by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Apr 21, 2006 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually if you think about it
he sat on him by mistake. Jerome looks kind of skinny
and Rusch is an elephant
by jessica on Apr 21, 2006 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
everyone
by mike bornemann @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Apr 21, 2006 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
The camera adds 10 pounds.
by BCurt10 on Apr 21, 2006 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
so how many cameras are actually on you?
by mike bornemann @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Apr 21, 2006 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
forgot the quotes,
by mike bornemann @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Apr 21, 2006 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL
by cubbiejulie on Apr 21, 2006 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
lol
BTW, currently there are about 3 xtra cameras on me. I'm working on that tho. :)
by BCurt10 on Apr 21, 2006 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
friends
by mike bornemann @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Apr 21, 2006 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Nope
Kidding--forgot Williams was up tonight.
by cubbiejulie on Apr 21, 2006 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree with putting Walker at first.
If our pitchers get healthy, if Murton and Jones hit well, we can stay in this, and Lee could be back for the end of the season. The Cubs will work some deals as the trading deadline approaches too.
It's still very early and there are ways for things to turn out well. It's just that now we have a lot more "ifs".
by Routine Pop Fly on Apr 21, 2006 9:39 AM CDT reply actions
I LOVE "THESE" CUBS
We run, and hustle more because of the presence of Juan Juan the Frenchman.... Case in point: Cedeno stretching bloop single into a double.... A hell of a lot more stolen bases... and 9-5 record to start the season...
The Cubs are going to be okay... The starting pitching has sputtered a bit to start the season... This comes around and we are all singing "GO CUBS GO" really really soon...
SO LETS RALLY AROUND THE TEAM WE HAVE ON THE FIELD EACH AND EVERY DAY!!!
by BillHoldenFan on Apr 21, 2006 9:55 AM CDT reply actions
I love your optimism,
gotta have some hope
by MO Cubs Fan on Apr 21, 2006 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
What makes you think
As much as Ramirez
Now we'll find out what kind of TEAM we have.
by BCurt10 on Apr 21, 2006 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
not sure why anyone would
by gaius marius on Apr 21, 2006 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Go Gubs Go!
-with apologies to the late great Steve Goodman...
WOE Cubs WOE
WOE Cubs WOE
Hey Chicago waddaya say,
Bring back Derek Lee today!
by hellfreezesoverwaittillnextyear on Apr 22, 2006 5:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Barrett to first
Mark Grace is available. So is Bill Buckner. I say trade for Travis Lee (D-ray). He's pretty good, not D. Lee good, but good enough.
My brain just exploded...
(sound of hippocampus hitting the carpet)
by evillecubman on Apr 21, 2006 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Thoughts
Finally I'm sure Dusty wouldn't choose for this to happen; but it probably guarantees him a contract extension. He now has a built-in excuse why this team is not going to win.
I'd like to see
with Maddux on the mound I want the best defense we can put out there, give him somewe'd lose more by having errors score runs
That makes sense
I think I like the idea of Mabry at First.
If he went on a hot streak...maybe the irony would give us the mojo we need right now!
by Sidd Finch @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Apr 21, 2006 10:59 AM CDT reply actions
meaning
by cubbiejulie on Apr 21, 2006 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I reeeeaaaaly
by mike bornemann @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Apr 21, 2006 11:47 AM CDT reply actions
I don't have time to read all but
No other way to out it...this SUCKS! Out of our sluggers, I'd rather it been Ramirez. He is one of my favorites but with his sub .200 BA, he would be less missed.
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh...why can't this team catch a freakin break???????
See, that just selfish and unfair
by cubbiejulie on Apr 21, 2006 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't care...
See?
by cubbiejulie on Apr 21, 2006 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
OOOH!
Suddenly I'm pulled from my deep, deep depression!
by BCurt10 on Apr 21, 2006 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
i think we need a trade
- Pierre - CF
- Walker - 1B
- ARam - 3B
- Jones - RF (shudder, but hey, he can't possibly be worse than he has been)
- Murton - LF
- Barrett - C
- Hairston - 2B
- Cedeno - SS
- Pitcher's spot
Pierre
Walker
Aramis
Jones (shudder again)
Gload
Murton
Barrett
Cedeno
I feel better about that one.
j.t. snow
by Buffalo Cubby on Apr 21, 2006 12:05 PM CDT reply actions
Mark Grace...
What the Cubs need...
Ramirez needs to hit the way he is capable of hitting and Pierre needs to get on base more then 28% of the time. This was a very big loss for us but things happen (yes, it seems more often for the Cubs then others but that's life) and we can only hope that this fires up our team instead of make them all feel the season is over and they just roll over.
agree
by Buffalo Cubby on Apr 21, 2006 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
The worry is
by BringBackRyno on Apr 21, 2006 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Ramirez...
This is what separates the good players from the great players...knowing that their team needs them when it really matters and stepping up to the plate. That doesn't go for just Ramirez though, that goes for the whole team.
Agreed
These guys, and that included the youngins, must either deal with it or find another line of work. Just like everyone else.
by cubbiejulie on Apr 21, 2006 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
But Julie
And FWIW...I despise Furcal now! First he sticks it in our rears with his money grubbin decision (and __ tease) and now manages to send D Lee on a 60 day trip on a fairly routine collision at 1B.
SCREW RAFAEL FURCAL!
by Kinky Reggae on Apr 21, 2006 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
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Unfortunately, there's no middle ground in baseball so as to avoid the all-or-nothing outcome.
I am on board
by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Apr 21, 2006 12:30 PM CDT reply actions
If nothing else
baby sitter.
I am ok with EITHER Snow or Choi but Snow might cost
too much
by jessica on Apr 21, 2006 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Snow...
by jolietconvict on Apr 21, 2006 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Your right
defensive replacement from time to time.
by jessica on Apr 21, 2006 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
G-M
by Smooth Jazz Man San Diego on Apr 21, 2006 12:38 PM CDT reply actions
Wow
(By the way, you're a lucky bastard.)
by Josh Timmers on Apr 21, 2006 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
the most frequently repeated canard in cubdom
however -- even if it WERE true -- the cubs wouldn't know.
they never even pitched him an offer.
so we'll never know.
good work, andy macfail. nice job, jim hendry.
by gaius marius on Apr 21, 2006 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
D Lee will be fine, eventually.
by Smooth Jazz Man San Diego on Apr 21, 2006 12:44 PM CDT reply actions
To be fair
one year given his injury history. The Red Sox were
smarter and offered two
by jessica on Apr 21, 2006 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
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I think where DLee's really going to have the problem is turning on those inside pitches, which is really too bad, because when he learned how to do that, he closed the hole in his offense and pitchers couldn't get him out anymore by throwing there. And the result was his 2005 performance.
I want my Miggy!
no way
by mike bornemann @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Apr 21, 2006 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Miguel Cabrera would be awesome...
by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Apr 21, 2006 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Cabrera
by Josh Timmers on Apr 21, 2006 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
FYI
Only go there if you are ready for the comments.
To the blogger's credit, he is attempting to keep the tone of the comments....civil. Ain't working in many cases....
by Smooth Jazz Man San Diego on Apr 21, 2006 1:19 PM CDT reply actions
let's not stoop to their level
I think
They seem
They do however, seem deluded about the quality of their team this year...
by Matt Allison on Apr 21, 2006 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Give credit...
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The Cardinals
Of course, that's still probably enough to win the NL Central, which is down even more.
by Josh Timmers on Apr 21, 2006 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
back-to-back 100-win seasons
not that we'd know, i suppose. :)
by gaius marius on Apr 21, 2006 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
on second thought
by gaius marius on Apr 21, 2006 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Ya had to do it
by Kinky Reggae on Apr 21, 2006 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Glad to see...
ewing theory
by Buffalo Cubby on Apr 21, 2006 1:45 PM CDT reply actions
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I think the difference here is that a large part of baseball is really about individuals and their cumulative performance. In basketball, individuals kill the team's performance. Which is why the NBA sucks and isn't worth watching until the finals of the playoffs when the one or two teams out of the entire league that do play a team game finally get to display for the umpteenth time what it takes to be winners. Then next year, it's back to clearouts and not passing and boasting and thugging until the finals roll around again.
There's no replacing DLee, and no joint effort is going to cause a group of decent but not great players to fill his void with performances they otherwise wouldn't have had.
When someone goes down like this...
The worst thing ...
So now, when all is said and done, we'll get another offseason of no major moves - with Hendry saying "But we'll have a healthy Derrek Lee all year." And of course, it will prevent us from seeing the real impact of Juan Pierre, so the chances of them resigning him go from little to none.
The reality is that this injury does not set the Cubs back one year, but likely two or three. And yet, it's their own fault. No team should be constructed to not be able to afford to lose any one player. Witness the Cardinals last season winning 100 games with no Scott Rolen. But Cubs teams are constructed to win of everything goes right.
by cubz1963 on Apr 21, 2006 2:20 PM CDT reply actions
Man, I wish I could argue against this
Sad, sad... so sad.
by BCurt10 on Apr 21, 2006 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
My reply to this argument....
Sure you can.
by jolietconvict on Apr 21, 2006 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Your opinion
Lee is a huge loss and there are plenty of teams that can ill afford to lose one of their players. Change your scenario to Pujols. All of a sudden, Edmonds is their Aramis and needs some protection in the lineup. Without his skills at 1B, who goes there..they got rid of Mabry.
The Cubs most certainly could have won, and will still succeed IMO, this is just a big challenge.
And for the record, the people at El Birdos are pretty civil, except that one loud mouth who appears to have made his life mission to hate on the Cubs...probably backlash from their getting swept by a team he commonly refers to as a bunch of losers with loser mentality.
I think we all know who the loser is:
glamberson!
why did the Sox win?
Don't get me wrong, I'd still love to have their trophy. I'm just of the opinion that this lineup needs to be more careful about how they make outs, not less.
by dustyisdonnie on Apr 21, 2006 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Fine
Smart ball means to me...not relying on the long ball to win your games alone. We have the makings now with Pierre, Cedeno, Murton, and even Jones.
by Kinky Reggae on Apr 21, 2006 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Most important thing for White Sox
Very true.
by Kinky Reggae on Apr 21, 2006 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
pitching was key, yes
They were ninth in the league in runs, and fourth in the league in homers. About the only thing that they weren't pretty average at doing was hitting the ball out of the park. (They were third in stolen bases, but led the league in caught stealing, leading to about a 67% success rate. That's about the lowest that I've seen listed as a break-even point for gaining runs by stealing bases; some folks have the break-even point up at 75%.) I'm not sure how that information can be interpreted any other way.
I'm all for having guys who can steal at a high success rate do so, but if you try to run with guys who can't do it, you're wasting outs. This team now needs more chances than before to get runners around to score owing to the fact that they lost a big power source. Why waste your outs?
Somebody bring back Earl Weaver. Quick.
by dustyisdonnie on Apr 21, 2006 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
They scored...
by jolietconvict on Apr 21, 2006 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
it should also be noted that...
by dustyisdonnie on Apr 21, 2006 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Brickhouse
Rosenthal
whoops
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5524266
How many Marlins do we need?
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Apr 21, 2006 10:32 PM CDT reply actions

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