Welcome To The New World Order
Mike came into the LF corner last night, about 30 minutes before game time, and had the line of the night: "Have they fired Jim Marshall yet?"
Marshall, for those of you who are too young to remember him or who are old enough to want to forget him, managed the Cubs through 2 1/2 miserable seasons in the mid-1970's, and is one of only two Cub managers since Leo Durocher (Lee Elia is the other) to get ANY non-interim managerial assignment after he left the Cubs.
I wonder out loud here if Dusty Baker will meet the same fate after he leaves here next month.
It was that kind of night at a nearly-empty Wrigley Field; we had a fairly large (for September) gathering of Mike, Jeff, me, Howard, Howard's other son Mark and his friend Mike, and an old friend of Howard and mine, Don, joined us... and for the first couple of innings, that was the entire population of our section. As about six other people came to sit in our section, we'd tell them the seats were already taken, or other lame humor -- if you saw the game, you may have seen one of them, a guy in a green T-shirt who lay down and napped on one of the benches.
At one point when I'd gotten up for a couple of minutes, I returned to find that everyone had left the section and moved over one section.
I'm writing this and it doesn't really seem that funny, but it was way funnier last night -- I guess you had to be there.
Hardly anyone was -- the announced attendance of 31,494 was less than half that; we guessed around 12,000 were in the ballpark last night and about 1,000 in the 5,100-seat bleachers, to witness the Cubs' totally UNfunny (though entertaining, in the way watching a chain-reaction car accident can be entertaining, 6-5 loss to the Pirates. It was likely the fewest people to be in Wrigley Field for a game since an announced crowd of 14,854 on April 20, 2003, and it felt like crowds we saw back in the late 1970's.
Congratulations. You are now a fan of the worst team in the National League. And unlike the 1999 team, which appeared to quit on Jim Riggleman, and the 2002 team which quit on TWO different managers, this team does at least appear to be giving its best effort. It's just that that effort isn't good enough, because this team is, well, horrid.
Juan Mateo put the Cubs in an early hole by giving up two two-run homers to Jason Bay. At 5-1, this looked like it was going to be a long and boring night, though pleasant and clear and 70 degrees (but more on this later!). The Cubs fought back and tied the game at 5 when Pirates pitcher Marty McLeary (I said to Jeff, "Wasn't that the guy in the 'Back to the Future' movies?") ill-advisedly tried to throw home to get Jacque Jones, and threw the ball away.
At that point I said, "That'll be the last run scored till the 27th inning, at which time, Dusty Baker, having activated himself, will pinch-hit, hack at the first pitch and hit a game-winning HR and come back to the dugout and say, 'Dudes, THAT is how it is done!'"
Once again, that was way funnier at the ballpark.
During all that time, Aramis Ramirez managed to get himself tossed by tossing his helmet after being called out on a play in which he appeared safe. It did appear that Gary Matthews and Baker came out in time to prevent Aramis from doing something that would get him suspended. Though, maybe at this point, he wants to be.
When Ryan Dempster came in and gave up a leadoff single, it appeared he might even get out of the inning after a sacrifice and a slick play by Ronny Cedeno (yes, he actually did make a slick play, mark it down!) catching the lead runner at third. But then, the remnants of the crowd booed heartily when Jose Bautista took off toward second and appeared to be thrown out by Henry Blanco.
The problem is, on that pitch Freddy Sanchez walked, so there was no play on Bautista. Then we heard boos again from the back part of the grandstand after they saw the replays. Was no one actually following the game?
Two wild pitches later, the Pirates had what was the winning run. Even the good defense of Henry Blanco couldn't block Dempster's second wild pitch, the one that scored Bautista. Dempster really does seem to have lost any ability to be a successful closer, or even to keep his team in games like this. It's too bad, really. But he will have to have a different role if he is on the 2007 edition of the Cubs.
Then, after two out in the last of the ninth, back-to-back singles by Matt Murton and Blanco put the tying run in scoring position and the winning run on base -- for pinch-hitter Freddie Bynum.
Oh, well. The result of that would likely be obvious to any of you even if you didn't know what happened. He struck out.
Juan Pierre stole two bases, getting him to 49, but then got thrown out trying to steal third, representing the tying run in the 8th. The Cubs left RISP in the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 7th, and 9th innings, 12 LOB in total.
And to add insult to insult, in the eighth inning a fairly hard rainshower came across the ballpark for about ten minutes, sending Jeff home and Howard and Mark and Other Mike to sit underneath the upper deck, while Mike & I stayed in left field to witness the rest of the carnage.
Last place. This may mean that, as Paul Sullivan writes, Carlos Zambrano may be shut down for the year, even if his injury isn't that serious. Why risk making things worse?
This may give Jae-Kuk Ryu a chance to get some starts before the end of the year.
There's a full moon tomorrow; it rose beautifully above the RF stands last night right at gametime, prompting Mike to say, "There goes the moon, clogging the sky again". And with the goofy happenings last night, it might get even more bizarre tonight.
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Ramirez and the team
It was quiet enough at the park that you could hear the vendors on the radio as well as the booing at key moments. I don't boo, but I probably would have boo-ed this team, particularly last night.
by Woodstock on Sep 6, 2006 9:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ramirez
by flyball on Sep 6, 2006 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
by BlueBooHoo on Sep 6, 2006 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait a minute.
Other than Ramirez, there is NO help available at third base this offseason. Oh wait, maybe we can sign Todd Walker to play third...
by Kornchex on Sep 6, 2006 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
April 20,2003...
I was there! That was the game where Solomon Torres hit Sosa in the head -- I was sitting about 20 rows behind home plate.
David Geiser
by dvdmgsr on Sep 6, 2006 9:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Whoops!
In that case, it was probably the smallest number of people in Wrigley Field for a game since April 9, 2002, a crowd of 18,151 vs. the Mets.
The last crowd under 10,000 was on June 1, 2000 -- but there were extenuating circumstances there; that was a makeup game, played on an open date, from a rainout the day before.
by Al on Sep 6, 2006 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
April 9, 2002
Low: 38F
With 0.05 inches of precipitation, probably but not certainly rain on the lakefront.
Anyway, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette estimated 10K no-shows yesterday, which based on what I saw on tv seems pretty conservative. The Tribune said "thousands".
by dvdmgsr on Sep 6, 2006 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As I said....
by Al on Sep 6, 2006 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
attendance
by danimal15 on Sep 6, 2006 9:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
C'mon Al, 98 years ain't...
by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on Sep 6, 2006 9:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, but...
by Al on Sep 6, 2006 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's see if it lasts
It will take more than one lousy night to wake up the Rip Van Winkles in the Trib Tower. After all, we know they haven't been watching this team...
by Pa on Sep 6, 2006 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yet
whatever.
the message is out there and getting through to real Cubs fans: Wanna be part of the solution not the problem? Don't go to the games.
by Matt Allison on Sep 6, 2006 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Al
How much of the credit for this continued effort do you give to Dusty Baker?
by DSZ on Sep 6, 2006 9:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
And more specifically, if you think, as you stated in your post, that the Cubs are giving their best effort, how can you possibly be so extreme in your anti-Baker sentiment?
I expect it from some people on this site, but it has been surprising coming from you.
by DSZ on Sep 6, 2006 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It appears to me...
As far as the players go? Well, remember that the 1999 and 2002 teams were, for the most part, veteran teams. This club does have a lot of young players who actually do play the game right. People like Juan Pierre and Derrek Lee play the game right. Is there credit due to Baker for this? Maybe some. But you have been even more of an apologist for Baker than I ever was.
His time here is up. At one time I thought he was the right guy for this franchise, and he did have success (up to a point) his first year here.
It's over. Done. Let's move on.
by Al on Sep 6, 2006 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apologist?
People talk about lineup construction despite the fact that numerous studies show that lineup construction is largely irrelevant. People talk about batters being too aggressive, but nobody has made a strong case that that's Dusty Baker's fault. How would they do that? By showing that Cubs hitters are more aggressive now than in their pre-Dusty years. Why don't they do that? Because the numbers don't bear it out. For example, Juan Pierre and Jacque Jones, two frequent targets for overaggressiveness, are actually seeing more pitches per at bat this season than they did in their career.
You often have called on people to base their arguments in fact, which is a good philosophy. I wonder why you don't demand it from those who go on anti-Baker rants.
I do agree with you that in some ways, Baker does, from outside appearances, seem to have disconnected from the organization (though not the players). And that, if accurate (something only known to insiders), is a reason for the Cubs and Baker to go their separate ways. But I think you'd agree that that is a very recent development, whereas the abuse that's been heaped on Baker has gone on far longer.
by DSZ on Sep 6, 2006 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Juan Pierre and Derrek Lee
by jimhickman on Sep 6, 2006 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think
A terrible doctor can still have a great bedside manner. You can compliment his rapport with his patients and still not want him to operate on you because he's likely to cut out your liver instead of your spleen.
This team is still playing hard, which at least makes it possible to continue watching them, unlike the 1999 and 2002 teams.
by Josh77 on Sep 6, 2006 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think
A terrible doctor can still have a great bedside manner. You can compliment his rapport with his patients and still not want him to operate on you because he's likely to cut out your liver instead of your spleen.
This team is still playing hard, which at least makes it possible to continue watching them, unlike the 1999 and 2002 teams.
by Josh77 on Sep 6, 2006 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The empty seats
This is a watershed year. I can see Chicago becoming a Sux town.
by Clark Addison on Sep 6, 2006 9:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Marshall
by danimal15 on Sep 6, 2006 9:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Herman Franks
by BlueBooHoo on Sep 6, 2006 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
finally where they deserve to be
by sickofthis on Sep 6, 2006 9:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Every game lately
When the Cubs were down 5-1, I just knew we'd come back. But I also knew that ultimately we'd lose the game. I just didn't know how. So I'd create scenarios. But finally, in the 9th inning, when Dempster came into the game, I knew it was about to happen. It had already happened twice last week against the same team. History was repeating itself. And it did. And I smiled to myself.
by tharr on Sep 6, 2006 10:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That is so funny..
by mgfabc on Sep 6, 2006 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reality Check
by flyingdonut on Sep 6, 2006 10:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But if people
by TC Cubby on Sep 6, 2006 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right.
by Al on Sep 6, 2006 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you really believe that?
by BlueBooHoo on Sep 6, 2006 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
revenue
by sickofthis on Sep 6, 2006 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really
The idiots behind me were screaming "He's out". I had to turn around and tell them that there was a walk and they still looked confused.
by jolietconvict on Sep 6, 2006 10:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
On a positive note
Fleita said Pie needs to work on his baserunning, bunting and his overaggressiveness at the plate.
"Sometimes he swings early in the count, like he knows we don't like to see," Fleita said. "But a lot of that is [lack of] experience."
I guess Baker never got that memo.
by tharr on Sep 6, 2006 10:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw the Fleita tv interview
Sounded like the same old-same old to me.
(and yeah, I had to resist the urge to editorialize about how 'some' organizations emphasize, you know, throwing strikes early in the count)
by Pa on Sep 6, 2006 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read in the
by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Sep 6, 2006 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Playing him...
In the AFL, he'll be playing games, yes, in front of small crowds, but knowing that he is the cream of the crop, as are the others in the AFL, and they DO have something to play for, their own league championship. And he'll play every day there, rather than ride the bench in Chicago.
by Al on Sep 6, 2006 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
by BlueBooHoo on Sep 6, 2006 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mind
It's one thing to tell someone about something and it's another thing to have them experience it first hand. I'd like for him to get that first hand experience so that he knows what it's like.
by NO100 on Sep 6, 2006 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rebuttal
I've said it a million times. It will be absolute shocker to me if Jim Hendry doesn't re-sign Juan Pierre. Nobody within this organization is prepared to fill the void at lead-off hitter should Pierre depart.
by BlueBooHoo on Sep 6, 2006 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good points
There is a big difference between AAA and the major leagues and I'm not talking just about baseball here for a second. There's also a huge lifestyle change. A taste of that I think would be beneficial so that he knows how to handle it when it's full time.
by NO100 on Sep 6, 2006 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know...
I say if he needs work, let him work with the minor league coaches (especially Von Joshua) in Arizona than expose him to the train wreck that is the 2006 Cubs team.
Kasey
by kaseyi on Sep 6, 2006 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The truth
Hey, I always wanted to use that line. Anyway, there is only one reason why Pie is going to Arizona rather than Chicago.
The days he spends on the 25 man roster count towards his service time. It's conceivable that by using him now, he'd then reach the year he becomes a free agent one year sooner.
It has absolutely nothing to do with performance. It's the money thing.
by tharr on Sep 6, 2006 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is just great
We will never know what Pie has, because the Cubs are afraid he will fail, the only position player that has his ability. We will most likey see him in 2008, disgruntled and not as eager as he is now.
Cubs are in last,going absoutley nowhere, another 30 days in Arizona, where he will be as thrilled as nothing is not going to make this player.
by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Sep 6, 2006 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
emptiness
Today looks like it will be the same; the sequence # on the 1st bleacher ticket for sale is 2022.
I'll be there again; I finally found at least one friend willing to go.
by goldstj2 on Sep 6, 2006 10:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The rotation
Hill
Marshall
Mateo
Walrond
Ryu/Miller
If it's Ryu, I'm sure it will send the historians to the record books. What's the record for most starts by rookies in a single season or consecutive rookie starts?
An amazing awful season. 100 losses is not out of the question if Zambrano gets shutdown.
by rlpete on Sep 6, 2006 10:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Worse....rotation....
The people dying for the kids have their wish granted, if Z's done.
by CubFaninCA on Sep 6, 2006 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Z's a kid, too
Can't argue with shutting him down, though, if he's in pain. He's got to be ready to go next season. The talk about his 'degenerative back condition' won't help his trade value, not that Hendry would have dealt him, anyway.
by Pa on Sep 6, 2006 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worst rotation ever?
But in any case, I'm actually glad that we've got an all rookie rotation. The season is toast. We're finally officially in last place. Throw the rookies into the fire, see if any of them can show something and get experience for next year.
I'm not saying I want the Cubs to lose (I've got tickets for two more games and I always enjoy watching a win much, much more than a loss) but we may as well play for next year.
by Jesse Guam on Sep 6, 2006 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I especially...
by Al on Sep 6, 2006 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
by JFCubFan on Sep 6, 2006 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
by Al on Sep 6, 2006 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
by Jesse Guam on Sep 6, 2006 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're going to jinx hill
by CubFaninCA on Sep 6, 2006 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, you're right,
by JFCubFan on Sep 6, 2006 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe
by BigJohnAZ on Sep 6, 2006 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
What an offseason this will be.
by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Sep 6, 2006 10:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Precedent for Ramirez getting ejected?
by LuisSalazar on Sep 6, 2006 11:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't watch the game......
by PriorandAramisfan23 on Sep 6, 2006 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
Should be interesting tonight, when Hallion is calling balls and strikes.
by Molechaser on Sep 6, 2006 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rules
by Woodstock on Sep 6, 2006 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those two things...
Throwing the helmet in anger and frustration is done in the heat of the moment. I can see the reasoning -- it could hurt someone. But if it is thrown away from anyone, not AT someone, as it appeared from Ramirez last night, I don't see that it should be an AUTOMATIC ejection.
by Al on Sep 6, 2006 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't the 1st base ump
by tharr on Sep 6, 2006 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last night's game was unwatchable
by CliffX on Sep 6, 2006 11:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Last 3 months have been unwatchable...
by escapegoat on Sep 6, 2006 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs Convention
by mike on Sep 6, 2006 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
by the time
by Faith plus 1 on Sep 6, 2006 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another reason
by tharr on Sep 6, 2006 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Sep 6, 2006 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read the 1060 Blog today for Hughes' comments
...ugh... no matter where you come down on the Moneyball vs. scouting debate, the fact that Hughes, in the business, seems clueless in the conversation outside of his guy feelings... wow.
Based on that sort of "gut-feel" only analysis you would get about what we have seen... once every 7 years or so we "out of the blue" stumble into the playoffs, but no sustained plan.
by NLBallClub on Sep 6, 2006 1:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Whoops...
by NLBallClub on Sep 6, 2006 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read 1060's take on Pierre
Not that I want Pierre back.. I'd rather have Pie starting in CF. :)
by CubFaninCA on Sep 6, 2006 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
then let them know
by Faith plus 1 on Sep 6, 2006 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, kid.
by CubFaninCA on Sep 6, 2006 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
see
This is me, not defending them, merely saying that they'll rip you a new one over there.
by Faith plus 1 on Sep 6, 2006 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
learn to write then,,,,
by CubFaninCA on Sep 6, 2006 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I write just fine
It's been done.
by Faith plus 1 on Sep 6, 2006 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was more for the Hughes'
The point was the roundtable with Hughes... look, you, I and the next guy posting here may or may not know what DIPS is. If we do know, we may or may not think it is a valid tool in looking at pitchers.
HOWEVER... Hughes' hasnt heard of it!!!
He is in the industry. He isnt a casual fan. Ok, reject it, accept it, whatever, but to not be familiar with what DIPS is???
Maybe it's better he doesnt b/c DIPS is a mis-leading stat, I dont know, but reject it based on something, not just not being familiar with it.
I feel like it's talking to a carpenter who hasnt heard of power tools... I mean I am sure there are carpenters out there who CHOOSE to use hand-tools for reasons of tradition, craftsmanship, they are Amish, whatever, and they are really good at what the do... but if you asked a carpenter if he (or she) was familiar with power tools and they were like "No, never heard of them, but I do pretty good with the hand-tools either way".
That was my point, not really about 1060 the blog itself.
by NLBallClub on Sep 6, 2006 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gary Hughes
I'm the furthest thing in the world from a sabermetrician fan. But in this instance I think we gain glimpse on what is horribly wrong within the Cub infrastructure. Jim Hendry is a marginal baseball scout masquerading as a big league GM. And he has surrounded himself with compatible brain power and vision.
by BlueBooHoo on Sep 6, 2006 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, my point exactly!
It's no matter where you fall on that "debate", it is indeed a glimpse... it's like the Scopes trial or something, Hughes' doesnt come off as reasoned, he comes off as ignorant of the current state of his damn business!
by NLBallClub on Sep 6, 2006 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Part of the explanation is
by BlueBooHoo on Sep 6, 2006 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cub Front Office
And Cub fans are paying the price as direct result.
by BlueBooHoo on Sep 6, 2006 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone's...
by jolietconvict on Sep 6, 2006 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that said
by Faith plus 1 on Sep 6, 2006 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's fukkin retarded & offensive...
by CubFaninCA on Sep 6, 2006 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the point is
It's just that as Cubs fans some of us feel burned with the intangiables that, for one example, Dusty was going to bring to the table (Remember, he was going to essentially "recruit" FA's to come to Chicago? Well, we havent really heard that one since 2003, but...)
Again, it isnt that one way is right or one way is wrong necessarily (disclaimer: personally I feel computers and data analysis have revolutionized so many businesses but businesses still have to find strong leaders to motivate the workforce, so there IS a place for both), but...
... Hughes' tone is extremely dismissive and that bothers me as a fan that he, and by implication, the Cubs front-office, are NOT using available tools, or bothering to make themselves aware of what those tools are.
by NLBallClub on Sep 6, 2006 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, definitely gets painted
by CubFaninCA on Sep 6, 2006 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just because...
by jolietconvict on Sep 6, 2006 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously,,,
So when your wife/sig other says, "she loves you," do you ask for a mathematical equation for proof??
Just a dumb statement...
by CubFaninCA on Sep 6, 2006 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how are you
Dumb statement indeed.
by Faith plus 1 on Sep 6, 2006 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's an intangible,,,
by CubFaninCA on Sep 6, 2006 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but a good manager
by Faith plus 1 on Sep 6, 2006 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
your proof is?
by CubFaninCA on Sep 6, 2006 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh good lord
by Faith plus 1 on Sep 6, 2006 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you were done a long time ago..
by CubFaninCA on Sep 6, 2006 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
managers have stats
by Faith plus 1 on Sep 6, 2006 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
other than
L
WP%
amazing.
by Faith plus 1 on Sep 6, 2006 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this has went well over your head
by CubFaninCA on Sep 6, 2006 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm well aware
by Faith plus 1 on Sep 6, 2006 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Intangiables
Look, 500 years ago electrons could not be measured or quantified, however, that doesnt mean they didnt exist at that time.
Similarly, motivational skills, hustle, leadership, whatever other intangiable you want to talk about... we might not have the ability to measure that in a quantifiable way as of yet (or who knows, ever), but that does not mean it does not exist.
On the other hand, 150 years ago people thought there was an intangiable, "ether" the permeated the atmosphere. There is, in fact, no such substance.
So the jury is still out.
Again, leadership, etc., does matter, but the bottom line is, if the Cubs are decision-making roster on these sorts of "intangiables" they are horribly terrible at assessing it anyway.
by NLBallClub on Sep 6, 2006 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No...
1. Incapable of being perceived by the senses.
2. Incapable of being realized or defined.
3. Incorporeal.
Notice it doesn't say:
4. Cannot be measured by statistics
by jolietconvict on Sep 6, 2006 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sept. 30
by danimal15 on Sep 6, 2006 1:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone see this?
I have heard numerous things alledged about Dusty's practice or lack thereof. What is going on?
by airweino on Sep 6, 2006 3:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bleachers
Looked like a 70's crowd out there.
Haven't seen the bleachers like that
in a long time.
You guys must have had plenty of
elbow room.....
I remember back in the day when they
would actually have the upper deck
closed off.
Will this team finish with a better
record than 1980 "Team Futility"
(64-98) ??
by quarryfan on Sep 6, 2006 3:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was at the game
I was booing pretty loudly when Aramis was called out. It appeared to be an awful call. Some in my section were muttering that the umpire should probably lose his job. They were saying this with a serious tone also, haha.
But anyway, I will always remember seeing the Cubs fall into last place for the first time since...what, 2002?
I have to say it was pretty weird having so few people there, including a very green and not blue bleacher section....
by jag alskar bjornungarna on Sep 6, 2006 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As I posted earlier.....
by Al on Sep 6, 2006 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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