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It's Pronounced "koh-skay foo-koo-DOUGH-may"

thanks to BCB reader initram for the rendering; it's generally accepted that he'll ask for his Cub jersey to look like this, instead of with his last name. I think you can figure out the reason!

The title of this post is something you should read and practice a few times; that's the generally accepted pronunciation of the Cubs' new right fielder, signed last night to a four-year, $48 million contract.

I'm very, very happy. This is exactly the kind of player the Cubs have needed for a long time -- a plus defensive outfielder with a good batting eye who could put up a .390 OBA (maybe in the #2 batting order slot), have midrange power and hit in the .290-.300 area. The money isn't unreasonable in today's market and neither is the length of the deal.

Linkage: Bruce Miles, Daily Herald. Gordon Wittenmyer, Sun-Times. Paul Sullivan, Tribune. No fewer than six BCB diaries on this and related topics. Oh, and the Padres fans still hate us, even more after this signing.

Here is an excellent wiki-style entry on Fukudome from Dan Lewis at Armchair GM; it has an extensive history of Fukudome's career, including many links and eight embedded video clips.

I may have to get myself one of those jerseys myownself. Word is the Cubs are still in the Brian Roberts derby -- if they got him, we could all relax, enjoy the holidays, and get excited about spring training and the 2008 season. Let's try to keep the discussion today in this thread; I'll update it later today if/when a news conference day and time is announced.

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Definitely
a nice bit of news to wake up to this fine morning.

Go Cubs!

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Dec 12, 2007 4:25 AM CST   0 recs

Actually Al
You've got the pronunciation of his first name wrong.

When a U is in the middle of a word in Japanese, it is generally dropped in spoken Japanese.  

It should be "Koh-skay."  Just like Daisuke is pronounced "Dice-K"  (Although actually that should be Di-skay)

Baseball Prospectus subscribers can check Mike Plugh of "Matsuzaka Watch" fame writing about him last July.  He gives the correct pronunciation as what I wrote.  You have Fukudome correct.

I don't speak Japanese, except that I have to admit a few years ago I watched a ton of anime and picked some stuff up.  

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh77 on Dec 12, 2007 4:40 AM CST   0 recs

Thanks for this.
I'll change it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 12, 2007 4:45 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Cannot wait...
for the first time Ron Santo tries to pronouce the name.
wccubfan

by wccubfan on Dec 12, 2007 3:34 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

re: Cannot wait...
I've had this exact thought a few times over the past couple weeks. This will add another level of hilarity to the Hughes-Santo radio experience.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 12, 2007 3:40 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I was wondering about that
because my son, who is studying Japanese, corrected me on my pronunciation of Daisuke last summer. He said you sort of barely pronounce the "u" with a brief "uh" sound, and that they don't really put a stress on any one syllable.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Dec 12, 2007 5:08 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Also
I'm not sure he wants the burden of #1 with the Cubs.  The last two Cubs to wear it were Tony Womack and Jose Macias.  :-)
The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh77 on Dec 12, 2007 4:43 AM CST   0 recs

and who can forget Lance Johnson...
Well, most of us... :)
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Dec 12, 2007 6:31 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

One-Dog!!!
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"

by lostinthevines on Dec 12, 2007 7:59 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Cubs who wore #1
The Cubs started wearing uniform numbers in the 1932 season. Here is a list of those players, managers, and coaches who donned #1 since 1932:

Woody English(1932-36)
Charlie Grimm (m) (1937-38)
Jimmy Wilson (m) (1941-42)
Bill Serena (1954)
Jim Fanning (1955-57)
Richie Ashburn (1960-61)
Mel Wright (c) (1971)
Jose Cardinal (1972-77)
Cookie Rojas (c & player) (1978-81)
Larry Bowa (1982-85)
Dave Martinez (1986-88, 2000)
Rick Wrona (1988-90)
Doug Strange (1991-92)
Tommy Shields(1993)
Doug Glanville (1996-97)
Lance Johnson (1997-99)
Augie Ojeda (2001-03)
Kenny Lofton (2003)
Jose Macias (2004-2005)
Tony Womack (2006)

reference:
All Time Chicago Cub Uniform Number List
http://ignarski.tripod.com/temprost.html

by flachimesa on Dec 12, 2007 9:06 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Your Welcome
(it's always nice to see someone using the information that I put up on the web)

Kasey

See the Cubs 2008 schedule at http://ignarski.tripod.com/sched2008.html

by kaseyi on Dec 12, 2007 9:34 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

BTW, the auhor
of the "All Time Chicago Cub Uniform Number List" website referenced above is a BCB member and contributor (kaseyi). Thanks Kasey Ignarski.

by flachimesa on Dec 12, 2007 9:40 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

What a list.
A couple of good players (Bowa and Ashburn) who were way past their best years by the time they got to the Cubs.

A couple of coaches and a manager.

A couple of players who had a decent year or so as a Cub (Martinez, Lofton, L. Johnson).

A cuddly teddy bear (Ojeda).

And a bunch of no-names.

Fukudome will change the perception of the uniform #1 the moment he first steps on the field.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 12, 2007 10:13 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Ahhh...Jose Cardenal
As Mike Royko once described him, he "...could sleep between pitches."

by MN exile on Dec 12, 2007 10:54 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I saw Doug Glanville
steal home once at Candlestick.  Or was it Brian McRae?
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" -Homer J. Simpson

by Whitebacon on Dec 12, 2007 8:53 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Jeez, I almost forgot
The only down side is that Chunichi gets our first round draft pick next season.
The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh77 on Dec 12, 2007 4:44 AM CST   0 recs

Ah..... like we were gonna do something
good with that pick anyway?
Ed Lynch is STILL on the Cubs payroll, as our D-Backs scout in Phoenix. Lynch attends all 81 D-Back home games with a notepad in hand. Really paid off for us!

by SackMan on Dec 12, 2007 7:47 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

4:30? Sleep Much?
Al, I hope for your sake you are travelling (hmm, Japan perhaps), and not regularly up and working at 4:30.

In any event, excitin news re Kosuke.  This is already a good team, so every little piece extra we get helps.

by Orval Overall on Dec 12, 2007 5:11 AM CST   0 recs

LOL
I wish I were going there. But no, I AM regularly up and at work at 4:30 am.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 12, 2007 8:08 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Wow. Very exciting news and I am
traveling with a guy from San Diego today, so I get to gloat about beating them out today as he is a huge Padres fan.  

For one day, an off season victory that we can celebrate!  Let's hope the Cubs keep on improving the team as we move towards Arizona baseball.

Is today the day they make a decision about Mark Prior's contract?

I can't wait for 2008!

by LAcarl519 on Dec 12, 2007 5:39 AM CST   0 recs

Prior...
... as well as anyone else who is under the team's control, must be tendered a contract by midnight tonight. So yes, today is decision day for him, too.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 12, 2007 8:49 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

should Prior
surprise us all and accept a one-year deal with an option, I, for one, will be happy to take back a lot of the bad things I said about him.

by elgato on Dec 12, 2007 9:16 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Oh this is very, very nice
Now let's see what else Jim has up his sleeve to make Lou happy for Christmas. Is it too greedy to ask for Roberts and Bedard? That should make Lou (and us) giddy with anticipation.
Our grandparents used to say, "I hope the Cubs win the Series before I die". Now the teenagers are saying it.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 12, 2007 5:39 AM CST   0 recs

WELCOME TO THE FUKUDOME!!!!
Can we get Chuck D of Public Enemy to do a theme song?

Very excited about the signing.  It shows that despite the impending sale and the uncertainty that comes with that, the front office is at least still trying to put the pieces in place.

I think I'll have sushi today to celebrate.

by AlabamaCubFan on Dec 12, 2007 5:49 AM CST   0 recs

Lineup so far for next season
Soriano LF
Pie CF
Lee 1b
Fukudome RF
Ramirez 3b
Derosa 2b
Soto C
Theriot SS

and think of the possibilities if we get Roberts. This now makes a hand full of outfielders tradeable (aka Murton)

Live is boring until March 31st strolls by..

by Chanman25 on Dec 12, 2007 6:10 AM CST   0 recs

I think they'd switch Pie and Theriot...
For now at least:

Soriano
Theriot
Lee
Ramirez
Fukudome
DeRosa
Soto
Pie

If we get Roberts, it'd probably be:

Soriano
Roberts
Lee
Ramirez
Fukudome
Soto
Theriot
Pie

by SouthernCub on Dec 12, 2007 7:00 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Can't we move Soriano to an RBI slot?
Forget the bunk about "he's comfortable in the #1 spot" . . . if Roberts comes, he should leadoff.

How about

Roberts
Pie (assuming he sticks)
Lee
Ramirez
Soriano
Fukudome
Soto
Theriot

Of course, the rotation is still shaky . . .

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 12, 2007 7:23 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Move Pie to the bottom until he hits
Put Fukudome at #2
Ed Lynch is STILL on the Cubs payroll, as our D-Backs scout in Phoenix. Lynch attends all 81 D-Back home games with a notepad in hand. Really paid off for us!

by SackMan on Dec 12, 2007 7:47 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Yep.
I think my distaste for Pie is well documented here at BCB, but I can't see batting him anywhere other than 8 or 9 until he figures out where the MLB strike zone is
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"

by lostinthevines on Dec 12, 2007 8:12 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

ninth?
What, Pie is going to provide protection so no one can pitch around Lilly and Hill?

by elgato on Dec 12, 2007 9:17 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

No
Just when Z pitches

by TheHawk5 on Dec 12, 2007 2:19 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I'd bat Rick Allen above him
(for those of you who know who that is, that may be funny)

Lilly and Z can hit, and hopefully Hill can figure out how to at least hold the bat and maybe sell a fake bunt or something

"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"

by lostinthevines on Dec 12, 2007 2:26 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

re: I'd bat Rick Allen above him
Sing it with me, people:

All we are saying
is give Felix a chance...

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 12, 2007 2:58 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

how about
theriot
fukudome
lee
ramirez
soriano
derosa
pie
soto

by slocs55 on Dec 12, 2007 8:18 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I wasn't saying what I'd do...
I was saying what it seems like Piniella will do.  Ultimately, we can envision whatever lineup we want, but there doesn't seem to be any indication that Piniella wants to move Soriano down.

by SouthernCub on Dec 12, 2007 8:24 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I would like that
and I'll guarantee it happens if the Cubs get Roberts.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Dec 12, 2007 8:48 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I agree about Pie . . . .
I just had him higher because there were a bunch of righties in a row when I was cobbling it together.  Goes against the whole "stop the pitcher from settling in" that I don't really buy into anyway.

Last week's rumor about Figgins for CF was interesting -- too bad it didn't appear to have legs.

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 12, 2007 9:12 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Roberts Is Key...
... without him, and barring any other speedster that we may go after (Figgins), Soriano will continue to lead off.

With Roberts, Soriano will drop down in the order.  No question about it.  Piniella mentioned this.  

That said, any thoughts on Lee batting 4th and Fukudome batting 3rd, or something like this?

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/comments/2007/12/11/23212/619/158#158

(with other commentary)

by initram on Dec 12, 2007 9:43 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Now let's get some pitching.......
.....The heck with Roberts, let's get a starter. I'm still trying to figure out what DeRosa did to deserve all this talk about another second baseman. If the Cubs are talking about Dempster to be the 5th starter, then they need to get somebody else.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Dec 12, 2007 7:09 AM CST   0 recs

Maybe, maybe not
Don't think DeRo 'did' anything. Roberts can hit lefty, he's faster - much faster - than DeRo and it can be argued he's a little better in the field. BA and OBP should be on par with DeRo.

I've mentioned this before. Why not Bedard? Media says Cubs aren't intersted? Huh? This stemmed from someone's diary about a Tiger's-like mega-deal. Got me thinking; Roberts AND Bedard.

I posted more detail in another diary this morning on this topic. Now that Fukudome is "Coming to America", I'd absolutely love to see Jimbo pull-off this deal and make Lou very, very happy.

Our grandparents used to say, "I hope the Cubs win the Series before I die". Now the teenagers are saying it.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 12, 2007 7:18 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Amen brother
Basically the consensus is that Dempster and/or Marquis are worth to our rotation than DeRosa is to our starting lineup.  I don't get it, and Derosa also agrees, citing an interview on Monday in which he claimed he doesn't always feel comfortable spot starting (specifically in the outfield) and indeed would take it personal if the Cubs signed Roberts.  Now I know we're not in the feel good business here, but let me present you w/ this and this is just an inclination but what if Roberts' name pops up on the Mitchell Report tomorrow.  Do we all of a sudden lose interest and tell DeRosa hey man we were just yanking your chain, no love lost?
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on Dec 12, 2007 9:32 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Where Did You Hear This Interview?
The interviews my father has heard on (likely) Score 670 and ESPN 1000 have said the exact opposite.

DeRosa has stated that he will play whereever Piniella wanted him to play.  He wants to stay a part of this team.  He is living a dream... playing baseball for the best team on the planet -- the Chicago Cubs.

Now, as a business man, I am sure most players will say this about our team.  Most of the time you can tell when a player is being genuine; I think DeRosa is genuine here.

One thing I heard on 670 was something I believe in: every team needs a (super-)sub.  What team would have a better one if the Cubs could have DeRosa play this role?  This should not be considered a bad thing, but rather a huge compliment.  DeRosa is versatile enough that he can do it -- and this was one of the main reasons why he was signed last year.

by initram on Dec 12, 2007 9:47 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

re: Where Did You Hear This Interview?
I agree, and I would like to see some corroboration for any claims that DeRosa is demanding to be a starter. Seems to me, he's too intelligent of a player not to recognize the importance of his own versatility.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Dec 12, 2007 9:55 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I heard it on ESPN,,,
Yes DeRosa stated that he is willing to play wherever he's needed, and I completely agree he is the consummate professional, but he Also stated that he thinks his performance last year warrants more than just a 'SuperSub' role.  He said he doesn't have a problem moving around but his fear is that he may be trapped into playing in the outfield for more than his liking, b/c he feels much more valuable as an infielder.  He also said that he would consider himself the 'odd man out' and and that although he is open to doing whatever makes the team better it would be hard to not take it personally if Roberts came over and is designated the starter which obviously would severely limit his playing time at 2B, the position he's obviously most comfortable at.
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on Dec 12, 2007 11:24 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I didn't hear
any recent interview, but in every interview I've seen in the past with DeRosa, he's said "I signed here to be the regular second baseman but I'm happy to do whatever the team wants me to do to help us win."

That's his Ivy League education shining through. A carefully crafted statement.  Translated: "I want to play second base but more importantly, I just want to play.  If they want me to play somewhere else, that's OK."

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh77 on Dec 12, 2007 1:22 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

So you think...
He should take it as a compliment that he may be replaced and his playing time will be minimized.  And I'm not shooting down any Roberts deal but my question is whether or not he is that much of an upgrade at 2B over DeRosa; and if so, then let it be.  I'm merely trying to look at the situation from DeRosa's perspective who himself said the situation has him 'concerned definitely.'  As for corroboration, I'll look for the podcast.
"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on Dec 12, 2007 11:37 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I'm very excited about this.
Not least of all, because Japanese is fun to shout.  

"FUKUDOME!"

Before each game, please remember to feed the bats.

by Cool Hand on Dec 12, 2007 7:26 AM CST   0 recs

Got Him!!!!!
Good job Jim Hendry!
Cubs Win!! Cubs Win!

by Ihatethecards on Dec 12, 2007 7:33 AM CST   0 recs

Happy they got him, but . . .
More like good job, Crane Kenney.  All Hendry did was throw money that someone else gave him.  Let's see if he improves the pitching staff . . . then I'll give him credit.

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 12, 2007 7:41 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Yeah right
At least give Hendry credit for one day before bashing him again.  What did Kenney do other that say spend the money and maybe review the contract?    

by rlpete on Dec 12, 2007 9:31 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I don't think I was bashing Hendry
But how is this a stragetic decision, or requiring superior talent evaluation?  You could have done the same thing, without (I suspect) the years of professional baseball experience.

I don't think that I've ever bashed Hendry on this site (I have on the Trib), but since you asked,

Rusch, Marquis, a trio of Perez, Enrique Wilson and Macias at the same time (!), going after Matsui, Maddux for Izturis, Kendall . . .

Yes, Hendry's made some good acquisitions, but by and large after the 2003-2004 offseason, he's become fixated with mediocre players or players who are past their prime -- or both.

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 12, 2007 9:46 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I'm not a big Hendry defender
as I think he does have some flaws primarily that he seems to be a little more reactive than proactive as times and doesn't always seem to have a plan.  Still to counter some of your points since 2004:
  • Lilly was a lot better signing than Zito or Schmidt who many people wanted.
  • Walker for Ceda and Bynum for Hart were pretty good dumps for cheap prospects that look pretty good.
  • Rusch wasn't a bad pitcher for 2 of his 3 years in Chicago.  In fact, in 2004 you could say he was good with an ERA+ of 124 and a 6-2 record as a swing man including 16 starts.
  • Maddux for Izturis to me is a non-issue.  He wasn't going to get Kemp or Ethier in that deal.  Maybe he could have gotten a better prospect but I don't know what the offers were.  The Dodgers seem to value their better prospects and don't seem to trade them.
  • Kendall gave the Cubs want they expected.  His defense was poor but offensively .270/.362/.356 was about what you would expect.  He didn't cost them much.  It's not like there are many catchers available midseason.  I don't think anyone could have predicted the complete Barrett meltdown after the 2006 season he had.    
  • He has resigned the Cubs free agents that he wanted.  Ramirez' deal especially appeared to be below market.
  • To some extent I think he was hampered by the tight Tribune purse strings.  They seemed to open them up last year.
           

by rlpete on Dec 12, 2007 10:18 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Fair enough
I will admit to being wrong about Lilly and his 1.14 WHIP (although until he shows otherwise, 2007 was a career year -- far and away better than what he'd ever done) and the less splashy trades that you mentioned could turn out just fine (at the risk of starting more controversy, just dumping Walker and his attitude was worth it).

Rusch had a great 2004, but he was always a journeyman, and giving him 2 years (or Perez) was not necessary.  Same for 3 years for Jones.

Not sure that I agree about the Trib's purse strings -- a lot of teams during the last 25 years won more games with lower payrolls.  They spent money -- just not correctly.

Hendry probably isn't the total idiot that some make him out to be, but he's not the Branch Rickey that others like to think he is, either.

I'll give him this -- he appears to be listening to Piniella, who I think has had a MAJOR influence on the composition of the roster.  And I'm glad KF is a Cub -- it's a potential high upside with relatively low risk.

OBP.  Wow.  What a concept!  Now let's get a starter or two . . . .

by Shanghai Badger on Dec 12, 2007 10:27 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Cool comment in Sullivan's Trib article today
One of Fukudome's biggest boosters is Cubs broadcaster Ron Santo, who now has the envious task of trying to pronounce his name without incurring any fines from the FCC.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-071211cubs,1,1236143.story?coll=cs-c ubs-headlines

Our grandparents used to say, "I hope the Cubs win the Series before I die". Now the teenagers are saying it.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 12, 2007 7:45 AM CST   0 recs

Oh, if Harry was still around
that would make for some pretty wild pronunciation momonts
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Dec 12, 2007 7:53 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Kosuke Fukudome spelled backwards is...
... Emodukuf Ekusok.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Dec 12, 2007 8:07 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I can hear it now
Eee-MO-due....cuff......

Eee-kooo....suck.

"Boy Steve, I sure hope that doesn't sound as bad as I think it does.  Hey Arne, take a look at all those boats out there on the lake.  What a great day at beautiful Wrigley Field.  Two and oh on the handsome young Japanese right fielder, runner on 2nd, 1 out, Cubs leading 4 nothing."

Our grandparents used to say, "I hope the Cubs win the Series before I die". Now the teenagers are saying it.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 12, 2007 8:12 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

A beautiful vision
I can just see it. Man, I can't wait.

by NWIowaCubFan on Dec 12, 2007 9:17 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

MOIS-AY

"MOISSSAAY Alou
Moiseeey ALooo"

"HIDEEEEEOH NOMO
HIDEAAAAA NOMO"

"DOME-AY, DOME-AY, DOME-AY, DOME-AY!"

by IowaCubs- on Dec 12, 2007 9:33 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Ahhh, Harry...
Fernando Valenzuava pitching to Hector Villenzuala :)

by Mark H on Dec 12, 2007 11:45 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Hector Millnanaveva
"I got mad hits like I was Rod Carew!"

by lostinthevines on Dec 12, 2007 2:28 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Lol...
Yeah, somethin' like that :). As I remember, Hector homered off of Valenzuala, but listening to Harry try to get those two names straight was a riot.

by Mark H on Dec 12, 2007 5:04 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Man, Padres fans absolutely hate
the Cubs and everything that is Cubs.  They are posting ways how Kosuke should die, real mature guys, you should be proud of yourselves.  
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Dec 12, 2007 7:55 AM CST   0 recs

They can take a long walk off a short pier.
Try being a Cubs fan in San Diego.  You can't even walk into Petco without some jerk shouting "84!!!!"

The point is, their organization is a joke.  I know they have managed to win a bit recently, but they have done nothing in the playoffs since '98.  If you want your only fond playoff memories to be getting destroyed in the '98 and '84 World Series, be my guest.

They have fantastic pitching.  I know this.  Their offense was a joke last year, and it will probably be even worse this year.

Don't blame the Cubs for John Moores' unwillingness to sign someone who can actually hit the ball.

by Kornchex on Dec 12, 2007 1:08 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Geez...
 What did the Padres fans expect? Sandy blessing a bidding war? With the Cubs no less? The hypocrisy alone in that is enough to make him pass. They should be estatic with locking up Peavy, leave it at that.

by Damen Jackson on Dec 12, 2007 8:07 AM CST   0 recs

Does that mean they'd be jumping
off the bridge to Coronado Island if the ChiSox outbid them?!
Our grandparents used to say, "I hope the Cubs win the Series before I die". Now the teenagers are saying it.

by blackhawk24 on Dec 12, 2007 8:13 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Padres fans are irrational
about the Cubs, and I have no idea why. They usually beat the crap out of the Cubs, and are able to continue to dangle '1984' in front of us, and they still print up retro "Cubbuster" T-Shirts  from the NLCS of that era every now and then.

Their 'enemies' should be the Dodgers and the Giants, by any stretch of the imagination. But perhaps they resent the fact Cubs fans fill up Petco every year when the team comes to town.

Whatever. They've been to the World Series more times in the past 30 years than we have, but still, they whine about the "Cubs." Their ire should be directed at owner John Moores.

The small-market mentality -- it persists here, and shows no signs of letting up.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Dec 12, 2007 10:46 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I haven't been
to Petco, but when I last went to Qualcomm to see the Cubs in 2003, I don't think I actually saw any Padres fans.  Heh, heh.

I'm almost being serious.  In the section I was sitting in, in the lower section down the third base line, there were zero Padres fans.

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh77 on Dec 12, 2007 1:27 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

What does this mean for Matt Murton?
I don't want to say goodbye to Naranja.

by dfrancon on Dec 12, 2007 8:07 AM CST   0 recs