Open Thread: Cubs vs. Angels at Mesa, Friday 3/2, 2:05 CT

by Al Yellon on Mar 2, 2007 10:38 AM CST in Game Threads

Courtesy of Bruce Miles, here's today's lineup:

Soriano, CF
Izturis, SS
Lee, 1B
Ramirez, 3B
Murton, LF
DeRosa, 2B
Blanco, C
Pagan, RF
Zambrano, P

Ugh. Not quite as nice as yesterday's. I hope Izturis strikes out twice, maybe that'll show Lou that he shouldn't bat second.

Z will face Joe Saunders, who is exactly fifteen days younger than he is. Saunders has made fifteen ML starts, Z 146, which is only one way of showing you how accomplished Z is at not-quite-26 years old.

No radio or TV for today's game (unless it's on MLB Audio or XM, which I don't have).

Finally, many of you may be too young to remember this name -- Jack Jacobson -- but I sure do. He was a producer, director and later program manager at WGN-TV in the 1950's and 1960's. Jacobson died last week at age 84. Among other things, he was responsible for discovering that the CF camera angle was the best for showing the pitcher and batter -- and it's a WGN innovation, discovered at a very unusual place:

It was for a game at Thillens Stadium on Devon Avenue that WGN first used the center-field shot, a view from behind the pitcher and toward the catcher and batter that became a staple of baseball telecasts. [Longtime WGN-TV producer Jack] Rosenberg said a large crew at WGN, including Mr. Jacobson, deserves credit for that innovation.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Aluisious..

Not to be off-topic but did we get all the tickets for BCB day? Is it still on?

"Grab a brew. Don't cost nothin'".-Senator Bluto Blutarsky

by cubbieboy on Mar 2, 2007 10:33 AM CST reply actions

Well...

... that depends on how many people did get tickets (I have six of them myself) and how many still want to go.

Perhaps this is diary-worthy? Anyone want to pick up the ball?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 2, 2007 10:35 AM CST up reply actions

I will post one.

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Mar 2, 2007 10:44 AM CST up reply actions

Dang it, Sparkles

You beat me to it. Stupid work phone calls.

"Grab a brew. Don't cost nothin'".-Senator Bluto Blutarsky

by cubbieboy on Mar 2, 2007 10:45 AM CST up reply actions

LOL

Thanks to both of you.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 2, 2007 10:46 AM CST up reply actions

the game is on gamedayaudio

via kspn? The angels have a good radio crew, listening to the late inning heroics from their kc game yesterday.

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 10:39 AM CST reply actions

yea kspn

http://mlb.mlb.com/mediacenter/index.jsp#20070302

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 10:40 AM CST up reply actions

Thanks for the link!

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 2, 2007 10:42 AM CST up reply actions

yeah, thanks

I have gameday audio but was having trouble figuring out where to go to find out which games were being broadcast and which were not.

by SuperContext on Mar 2, 2007 12:09 PM CST up reply actions

the annoying thing is

the current scoreboard only links to one audio feed if there is an option for more than one. This multimedia guide seems the best place to start listening for live stuff.

So obviously they make it fairly difficult to find on their site.

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 12:35 PM CST up reply actions

MLB

Overall, I think the MLB site is pretty lousy. It's too busy and at times has too many moving images and graphics. Additionally, the audio/video options and interface are imperfect and can be frustrating.

RICK SCHWAB!

by ExNorthsider on Mar 2, 2007 12:47 PM CST up reply actions

Great!

I'm glad to see Murton in the lineup. Was he in at all yesterday? I missed the game.

"They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself." ~Andy Warhol

by BlueW on Mar 2, 2007 11:11 AM CST reply actions

K Cesar

Is there no better option than Izzy batting second? This just seems like bad (read: old school) baseball lineup creation.

Ehhh. I guess I'll have plenty of months to complain. For now, I can be thankful for all the good things I have in life.

Not to get sappy or anything.

RICK SCHWAB!

by ExNorthsider on Mar 2, 2007 11:17 AM CST reply actions

Angels

Thusly:

Matthews, CF
Cabrera, SS
Guerrero, RF
Hillenbrand, 1B
Kendrick, 2B
Figgins, 3B
Molina, C
Gorneault, LF
Saunders, P

by Bruce Miles on Mar 2, 2007 11:33 AM CST reply actions

I'm assuming

that some of the roster decisions have to do with simply getting guys at bats and trying things out. Lou has said that wins and and losses aren't that important so I'm sure he's just tinkering with things

AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Mar 2, 2007 11:35 AM CST reply actions

Spring Training

It is spring training, so it does seem likely that's what Lou is doing. I think we've got enough veterans on the team that they know what they need to do to get ready for the season.

PAGAN!

by Jesse Guam on Mar 2, 2007 11:37 AM CST up reply actions

Re

If you assume that Lou would put that collection of players out on the field in a regular game, it's really not that bad of a lineup.

If he bats Murton 2nd, he makes the order top-heavy and basically concedes the bottom half to stranding runners on base and producing outs. Izturis batting second can at least, hopefully, make contact that will move Soriano (and Z in a real game, since it's unlikely he gets to actually bat today) along, while Murton's production in the 5th slot is needed, since Blanco and Pagan are there only to give starters rest.

You could flip Pagan and Neifi, but I think I'd rather have a starter hitting 2nd, at least until it was clear he was hopeless in even just making productive contact. It's a weak offensive lineup, and shows why the OF needs upgraded.

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by Jed Taylor on Mar 2, 2007 11:56 AM CST up reply actions

Weak

Yes, you are right that it's a weak lineup. But I find it hilarious that you spend your whole comment apologizing for Cesar "the worst SS in baseball" Izturis, and then come to the sage conclusion that the outfield (the same OF that we just hired Alfonso Soriano to play in) needs an upgrade. How's this for an idea? When a lineup is weak, address the weakNESS. In this case, Izturis' presence in the Cubs dugout. The response to Izturis sucking is not to get better players around Izturis. The correct response is to REPLACE IZTURIS. This is not hard, people.

by Jhoratio on Mar 2, 2007 1:20 PM CST up reply actions

Re

It's not an either/or situation. If the Cubs had someone better than Pagan to play RF, DeRosa could bat second, that person could bat 6th, and Izturis could bat 8th.

I'm sure the Dodgers are still laughing at Hendry for taking Izturis off their hands and getting a couple months of Maddux as a bonus. What would you do about the situation and his $4MM contract?

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by Jed Taylor on Mar 2, 2007 2:12 PM CST up reply actions

What would I do?

I would:

1) consider Izturis' salary a sunk cost and cut him from the team.

2) name Ryan Theriot starting SS

3) name Eric Patterson starting 2B

4) relegate DeRosa to platoon outfield duty with J. Jones

5) play out the season

WHATEVER anyone has to say about the wisdom of this plan, they must first concede that starting Izturis for the entire season is undoubtedly the worse plan.

by Jhoratio on Mar 2, 2007 2:18 PM CST up reply actions

Re

That's a fine plan if you're the Royals with some money and can spend the season training your middle IF. There's no way, however, that's Piniella's going after a championship playing one guy out of position and a complete rookie up the middle.

I'm no fan of Neifi Izturis. I didn't see anything last year in his 22 games with the Cubs to think he's more than an average fielder. But Bruce Miles has reported he's looking very smooth in drills and as long as he bats 8th, he's the best option the Cubs have available for what he's been acquired for.

If the Cubs could get a SS who could not embarrass himself at the plate, I'd eat the contract, too. But Eric Patterson is going to spend this season at Iowa - which is where he belongs, as is probably Theriot with the team carrying 12 pitchers. They could cut Ward, but then there's no backup for DLee.

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by Jed Taylor on Mar 2, 2007 2:46 PM CST up reply actions

And you've just described

why the Cubs are guaranteed losers every single farkin' year.

by Jhoratio on Mar 3, 2007 11:59 PM CST up reply actions

Will there be a MLB Gameday "broadcast"?

Football and basketball are just things to do between baseball seasons.

by MetsSuck on Mar 2, 2007 1:05 PM CST reply actions

Go Cubs!!!

Let's play ball!!!

by sue369 on Mar 2, 2007 1:05 PM CST reply actions

Not on XM today

But tomorrow's game is on XM177 and Sunday's is on XM178.

by DaveinHouston on Mar 2, 2007 1:08 PM CST reply actions

Go Cubs, indeed

I'll be listening via Gameday Audio again, though it's a shame we won't be able to enjoy Pat and Ron.

I agree with pretty much everything that's been said about the lineup. It's definitely not as awe inspiring as yesterday's, but (to echo the obvious) this is a spring training game, so a lotta different guys gotta take their hacks.

I concede Jed Taylor's point about batting Izzy second instead of Murton, but I still don't like it. If Murton's not an option, I'd rather see Pagan in the two-hole. Oh, and I'm wondering whether Izzy's fortuitous single yesterday played any role in Lou giving him the nod as No. 2.

Anyway, I'll probably be chiming in some smart-ass remarks during the game as I'm sitting in front of a computer here at work and don't have much else better to do (uh, except my job, of course).

Go Cubs!!!

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 1:16 PM CST reply actions

todays game on web

Does anyone know if there is a mlb.com real time box score available for this game?

by drodd on Mar 2, 2007 1:19 PM CST reply actions

lineup grumbling

I see it isn't just the players on the field getting ready for the season. How's the man supposed to know, unless he tries when it doesn't count? Are people going to complain about late inning substitutions in st too?

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 1:57 PM CST reply actions

KSPN, baby...

It's time for Angels baseball!

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 2:01 PM CST reply actions

tech issues

the game ended early on the angels feed yesterday.. hope it doesn't happen today.

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 2:03 PM CST reply actions

re: tech issues

Yeah, my stream has already died once, but I was able to get it back.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 2:05 PM CST up reply actions

woo!

z's 1st k!

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 2:06 PM CST reply actions

GOT HIM!

Sit down, 'roid boy.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 2:06 PM CST reply actions

1st inning

Zambrano pitching

Matthews strikes out swinging.
Cabrera strike out looking.
Guerrero grounds out, Izturis to Lee.

by Josh Timmers on Mar 2, 2007 2:07 PM CST reply actions

re: 1st inning

Dude, you're way ahead of my Gameday Audio feed. You're giving stuff away before it happens! :-)

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 2:08 PM CST up reply actions

Ahead of..

...the Gameday "boxscore" feed, too.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/y2006/gd.html?2007_03_02_anamlb_chnmlb_1&brand=mlb

It just caught up, though...

by cwyers on Mar 2, 2007 2:11 PM CST up reply actions

the perks of actual radio

oc traffic is a downer though.

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 2:13 PM CST up reply actions

re: Ahead of..

Thanks for the link! I didn't think they were doing that for spring training games.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 2:13 PM CST up reply actions

Thanks for this link.

Now, tell me where on the MLB site I can find this each day. I couldn't locate it!

(If you can tell me, I'll post the link in the game thread every day.)

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 2, 2007 2:13 PM CST up reply actions

I didn't find it...

...I took the link someone posted for yesterday's game and started changing bits and pieces of it until it got me somewhere. I don't think Gameday is actually supposed to be up and running currently.

by cwyers on Mar 2, 2007 2:16 PM CST up reply actions

re: I didn't find it...

Yeah, my Gameday doesn't seem to be refreshing. Even when I refresh manually, nothing happens.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 2:17 PM CST up reply actions

Mine's not refreshing either.

Whether or not it's supposed to be running, it DOES have the lineups, and it is updating -- sort of, although not like it usually does during the season.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 2, 2007 2:20 PM CST up reply actions

I think the key hint...

...that it's not supposed to be operating yet, outside of the fact that we have to guess at the links ourselves, is the fact that the ads are missing from the bottom.

by cwyers on Mar 2, 2007 2:22 PM CST up reply actions

And...

... my background is white instead of black.

They must be using this as practice.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 2, 2007 2:37 PM CST up reply actions

During yesterdays game

Gameday would take its sweet time refreshing but it would catch up eventually. Don't look at the pitch counts either as they were no where close yesterday.

I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Mar 2, 2007 2:31 PM CST up reply actions

Because

I'm listening over the air on KSPN

by Josh Timmers on Mar 2, 2007 2:13 PM CST up reply actions

Bottom first

Joe Saunders pitching

Soriano flies out to Guerrero
Izturis grounds out, Kendrick to Lee
Lee flies out to Guerrero

by Josh Timmers on Mar 2, 2007 2:12 PM CST reply actions

MLB.com radio broadcast

Is anyone else getting a lot of static/clicking?

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by Jed Taylor on Mar 2, 2007 2:16 PM CST reply actions

re: MLB.com radio broadcast

Yep, it sounds like I'm hearing the game on a frickin' Victrola.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 2:18 PM CST up reply actions

yea..

it sounded like they are having trouble with their isdn connection, like yesterday. I was listening for the angels comeback in yesterdays game and just heard a dial tone for the last 10 mins :/

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 2:18 PM CST up reply actions

Re

You raise an interesting question as to what kind of circuit they use in minor league parks. It's probably not worth it to drop a dedicated line with QoS, but I would think they could do better than ISDN.

Al, you're in broadcasting. Any idea what the circuit is between HoHoKam and the station?

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by Jed Taylor on Mar 2, 2007 2:28 PM CST up reply actions

I have no idea.

However, Ho Ho Kam has a modern press box (ten years old), so there's no reason they should have this sort of trouble. There must be a problem down the line somewhere else. Remember, this is also the visiting team's feed, so whatever they're using is not any sort of permanent setup.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 2, 2007 2:37 PM CST up reply actions

Re

Indeed. A straight VoIP would sound better than this.

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by Jed Taylor on Mar 2, 2007 2:51 PM CST up reply actions

And probably be cheaper, too.

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 2, 2007 2:55 PM CST up reply actions

static

lots of static and inconsistent volume.

RICK SCHWAB!

by ExNorthsider on Mar 2, 2007 2:18 PM CST reply actions

Frickin' Figgins...

Lucky hit.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 2:20 PM CST reply actions

with the problems he's been having

I cant get mad at a chone figgins hit

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 2:20 PM CST reply actions

Top Second

Zambrano still pitching

Hillenbrand grounds out, Zambrano to Lee.
Kendrick strikes out swinging.
Figgins bloop single to left
Zambrano throws to Lee on Figgins break. Figgins beats throw, steals second.
Molina strikes out swinging.

Sign this guy to an extension now.

by Josh Timmers on Mar 2, 2007 2:23 PM CST reply actions

Wow

Big Z is in da house.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 2:23 PM CST reply actions

yay redguy

take that! 1st pitch hr!

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 2:27 PM CST reply actions

ORANGE GUY

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 2:27 PM CST reply actions

He rocks.

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Mar 2, 2007 2:34 PM CST up reply actions

Yep he does

Let's play ball!!!

by sue369 on Mar 2, 2007 2:49 PM CST up reply actions

GO Red-head!

Going the other way!

by madtown on Mar 2, 2007 2:27 PM CST reply actions

vlad can field?

who knew?

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 2:33 PM CST reply actions

Bottom Second

Saunders still pitching

Ramirez pops out to Figgins in foul territory
Murton HOMERS down the right field line. 1-0 CUBS
DeRosa walks.
Blanco flies out to Guerrero
Pagan flies out to Guerrero in deep center.

by Josh Timmers on Mar 2, 2007 2:33 PM CST reply actions

Big Z is done...

Seems a little early for Howry, though, no?

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 2:35 PM CST reply actions

no, it doesn't

you play your better relievers earlier in the game during the first week or so of spring training so they don't face crappy minor leaguers and NRIs at the end of the game.

The first week and a half of ST games are essentially glorified practice.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Mar 2, 2007 3:25 PM CST up reply actions

Glorified Practice

If that's the case, I need another reason to get incredibly worked up over the Cubs losing.

Or not.

PAGAN!

by Jesse Guam on Mar 2, 2007 3:32 PM CST up reply actions

I think z proved his point

gets a look as howry as middle relief too. He would be a good option to save a bad (marquis) start.

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 2:38 PM CST reply actions

Top Third

Sorry--had to take a phone call. Have no idea what happened in the top of the third.

by Josh Timmers on Mar 2, 2007 2:43 PM CST reply actions

re: Top Third

Long story short: Howry shut them down. No runs, no hits, no errors.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 2:43 PM CST up reply actions

Howry in Early

Howry's in early to face the everyday players in the Angels lineup. There is no point in pitching him in the later innings against guys who won't make the major league ball club in the coming years.

by moneymike1120 on Mar 2, 2007 2:47 PM CST reply actions

re: Howry in Early

Thanks, I figured as much.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 2:48 PM CST up reply actions

no you didn't

if you had, you wouldn't have asked.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Mar 2, 2007 3:28 PM CST up reply actions

re: no you didn't

I figured as much after I posed the question. Admittedly, I probably should've thought more about it before I asked.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 3:30 PM CST up reply actions

sori got under it

but caught at the track by matthews

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 2:47 PM CST reply actions

he hit it 400 ft

according to the angels announcers

by cashcowsquirtingsourmilk on Mar 2, 2007 2:49 PM CST up reply actions

izzy showing off his power!

by madtown on Mar 2, 2007 2:49 PM CST reply actions

Well...

If Izzy keeps on getting on base like he just did, maybe we'll have less to argue about.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 2:49 PM CST reply actions

let's hope

by madtown on Mar 2, 2007 2:50 PM CST up reply actions

DLEE MVP

The man can hit.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 2:50 PM CST reply actions

Bases juiced for Orange Guy

Make it two, Matt.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 2:53 PM CST reply actions

And he comes through with a hit n/t

by SuperContext on Mar 2, 2007 2:56 PM CST up reply actions

Re

That's why MM is batting 5th. 3 rbis. Nice job of working the count and getting the runs in.

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by Jed Taylor on Mar 2, 2007 2:57 PM CST up reply actions

MOITON

2 run single! 3-0.

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 2:56 PM CST reply actions

All right Orange Guy!

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 2, 2007 2:56 PM CST reply actions

YES!!!

Go Orange Guy!!!

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 2:57 PM CST reply actions

Bottom Third

Darren Oliver pitching

Dopirak pinch hitting. Fouls out to Hillenbrand.
Soriano flies out to Matthews in deep center.
Izturis slow grounder to third. Infield hit.
Lee singles to CF. Izturis to second.
Ramirez walks. Izturis to third, Lee to second.
Murton SINGLE to right. Izturis scores. Lee scores. 3-0 CUBS.
DeRosa flies out to Gourneau in left.

by Josh Timmers on Mar 2, 2007 2:57 PM CST reply actions

Looks like Orange Guy wants to make

it interesting for Lou to decide on an outfield.

Football and basketball are just things to do between baseball seasons.

by MetsSuck on Mar 2, 2007 2:59 PM CST reply actions

Way to go Matt!!

Let's play ball!!!

by sue369 on Mar 2, 2007 2:59 PM CST reply actions

just got back from class

and WOO! looked like zambrano was lights-out for his two innings and the big murt!!!! wooo!!!!

LOUD NOISES!!!

by NittanyCub on Mar 2, 2007 3:00 PM CST reply actions

Howry Out/Cotts In

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 3:00 PM CST reply actions

my gf is from anaheim

I will have to play the next hour or so very carefully..

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 3:02 PM CST reply actions

re: my gf is from anaheim

So will the Cubs. :-|

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 3:03 PM CST up reply actions

good ol cotts

will keep me out of the doghouse

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 3:05 PM CST up reply actions

Also...

... Eric Patterson now playing 2B.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 2, 2007 3:04 PM CST reply actions

hopefully they hit the ball right at him

isnt his defense his one drawback at this point?

DON'T TRADE PIE!

by kylejo on Mar 2, 2007 3:06 PM CST up reply actions

Tighten the lugnuts, guys...

...the wheels are coming off.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 3:07 PM CST reply actions

how is izutruris

not familiar with figgins speed? shouldve held the lead runner..

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 3:07 PM CST reply actions

I guess that evens it out for murton

give three runs.. loose two

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 3:08 PM CST reply actions

Sigh.

I just hate when pitchers get the first two outs easy and then give up several hits in a row. Talk about losing focus...

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 2, 2007 3:09 PM CST reply actions

re: Sigh.

Yeah, it's remarkable how that wild pitch seemed to completely change the tenor of Cotts's performance. Ah, well...let's get those bats going again.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 3:11 PM CST up reply actions

Top Fourth

Neal Cotts pitching

Cabrera line out to Pagan in right.
Guerrero ground out. Ramirez to Lee.
Hillenbrand singles to left.
Wild pitch. Hillenbrand to second.
Kendrick SINGLES to CF. Hillenbrand scores. 3-1 CUBS.
Figgins singles to Izturis. Error on Izturis. Kendrick to third.
Molina DOUBLES to LF. Figgins scores. Kendrick scores. 3-3
Gourneau grounds out. Izturis to Lee.

Tied 3-3.

Not a good job by Cotts.

by Josh Timmers on Mar 2, 2007 3:10 PM CST reply actions

izzy coudlve done better as well

at least we have his powerful offense..

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 3:11 PM CST up reply actions

crap

Let's play ball!!!

by sue369 on Mar 2, 2007 3:13 PM CST up reply actions

he might just have the heebie-jeebies

...hopefully

i can't believe i just typed 'heebie-jeebies'

LOUD NOISES!!!

by NittanyCub on Mar 2, 2007 3:21 PM CST up reply actions

re: he might just have the heebie-jeebies

The heebie-jeebies?! What, did Cotts see a tarantula in the clubhouse? He needs to pull himself together.

Oh, great...an Angels home run...and now a double...nice, nice...

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 3:24 PM CST up reply actions

cut the man some slack

very first time in a cubs uniform, he has to have some kind of nerve running through him

LOUD NOISES!!!

by NittanyCub on Mar 2, 2007 3:32 PM CST up reply actions

Or maybe...

he's just not that good.

He didn't have good years besides 2005.

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Mar 2, 2007 3:38 PM CST up reply actions

i second that

this aardsma for cotts trade was stupid then, is stupid now, and will continue to remain stupid for the foreseeable future.

Aside from the fact that cotts isn't good, we already had two lefties, and now I'm going to miss Aardsma's frightening looking face.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Mar 2, 2007 3:42 PM CST up reply actions

What is going on?

"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Mar 2, 2007 3:11 PM CST reply actions

pagan

one out hit

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 3:14 PM CST reply actions

Smart move...

Steal on the rookie pitcher. Quite a Paganish move.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 3:16 PM CST reply actions

Prediction:

Soriano walks.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 3:18 PM CST reply actions

wrong

foul tip to end the inning

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 3:19 PM CST reply actions

re: wrong

Did I say "walk"? I meant "strikes out." :-{

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 3:20 PM CST up reply actions

rejada (sp?) pitching

felix pie replaces sori

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 3:21 PM CST reply actions

ramierex has made

some nice stops today.. 1st out

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 3:22 PM CST reply actions

ouch

vlad two run homer

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 3:24 PM CST reply actions

my mistake

6-3.. repada has given up two homers

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 3:25 PM CST up reply actions

who is pitching?

by madtown on Mar 2, 2007 3:25 PM CST reply actions

rapada

DON'T TRADE PIE!

by kylejo on Mar 2, 2007 3:26 PM CST up reply actions

Clay

Rapada

"A study in the Washington Post says that women have better verbal skills than men. I just want to say to the authors of that study: "Duh." ~Conan O'Brien

by talkingcubs on Mar 2, 2007 3:26 PM CST reply actions

Sigh...

Glorified batting practice, indeed.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 3:27 PM CST reply actions

figgins?

come on! I know someone who is staying in double a this year... 8-3 angels

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 3:29 PM CST reply actions

Well...

... Figgins does hit HR from time to time. But Rapada will likely be at Iowa, not AA.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 2, 2007 3:30 PM CST up reply actions

Nostradamus...

Tomorrow's Transaction Log - Cubs send Clay Rapada to minor-league camp.

by eamuscatuli1881 on Mar 2, 2007 3:31 PM CST reply actions

Oh wait...

did I say minor-league camp? I meant, traded to the Nationals.

by eamuscatuli1881 on Mar 2, 2007 3:35 PM CST up reply actions

hey, I have an awesome idea

Why don't we all be incredibly knee-jerk during the second game of spring training? Anyone?

Let's play.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Mar 2, 2007 3:38 PM CST up reply actions

LOL

I think he was kidding. "Traded to the Nationals" -- that was funny!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 2, 2007 3:42 PM CST up reply actions

I was kinda responding to the whole group

I read through the comments, and some people here are getting too emotionally involved and/or reading too much into the importance of this game and flying off the handle. As I said before, the first week is like a glorified practice. If the Cubs suck during their run in vegas, then I'd worry.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Mar 2, 2007 3:45 PM CST up reply actions

re: I was kinda responding to the whole group

I think you may be reading too much into our comments. I can speak only for myself, obviously, but I'm just joking around and not taking this game all that seriously.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 3:49 PM CST up reply actions

wrong

I'm reading the exact correct amount into your comments.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Mar 2, 2007 3:52 PM CST up reply actions

re: wrong

You may want to recheck your measurements.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 3:54 PM CST up reply actions

Hey, y'all...

... relax. It's the second day of spring training. How are we gonna make it through the season this way??? ;)

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 2, 2007 3:58 PM CST up reply actions

re: Hey, y'all...

I'm really not upset! (Maybe I should've added an emoticon to that last post.) I know Thelonious is just giving us shit...and as well he should.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 4:02 PM CST up reply actions

That's

a pretty decent question.

"Because I saw this movie called 'Liar Liar' and the message was 'don't lie.' --Cal

by nextyearcub on Mar 2, 2007 9:33 PM CST up reply actions

you might want to recheck

whether I care enough to continue this discussion.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Mar 2, 2007 4:00 PM CST up reply actions

re: you might want to recheck

I don't care enough to recheck, could you just tell me?

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 4:03 PM CST up reply actions

The whole group.

I agree totally. Been thinking the same thing but just didn't have the courage to write it.

by tucsoncubsfan on Mar 2, 2007 4:24 PM CST up reply actions

Sounds good

They are terrible! They haven't won a game all year and probably won't win a game all year! Anyone want to buy my tickets??? I thought Lou was supposed to do it and that this was the year, but here they are and they've got their star relief prospects getting rocked in the first week! All the other teams are ready to play, why aren't the Cubs??? Soriano? What's going on? I told you we shouldn't have got rid of Jeromy Burnitz, he was much better than this guy! Here we go again!

Sound good?

by eamuscatuli1881 on Mar 2, 2007 3:42 PM CST up reply actions

izzy leadoff double

no outs

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 3:34 PM CST reply actions

re: izzy leadoff double

Welcome to Bizarro world. Izzy has, what, three hits (yesterday and today) and Soriano has none.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 3:36 PM CST up reply actions

I get called away

for an inning and Clay Rapada insures that he won't come north in April.

Yuck.

by Josh Timmers on Mar 2, 2007 3:35 PM CST reply actions

67.50 isn't such a bad ERA

...

by HanOfTheBluegrass on Mar 2, 2007 4:12 PM CST up reply actions

Two doubles

Two homers...

Gotta love that Cub relief pitching in two days!

Yikes!

And Dempster hasn't even gotten on the mound.

Cardinals make me see Red!

by TheEman on Mar 2, 2007 3:35 PM CST reply actions

Rocky Cherry...

Is supposed to have the goods.

We'll see in the next couple weeks.

Cardinals make me see Red!

by TheEman on Mar 2, 2007 3:36 PM CST reply actions

Excuse Me

Who or what is Rocky Cherry?

"Chicago Cubs fans are ninety percent scar tissue." George F. Will

by JimmyJ31 on Mar 2, 2007 3:39 PM CST up reply actions

our minor leaguer

LOUD NOISES!!!

by NittanyCub on Mar 2, 2007 3:52 PM CST up reply actions

Soriano...

IS keeping the catchers and home plate umpires cool the last two days.

Get used to it!

Cardinals make me see Red!

by TheEman on Mar 2, 2007 3:37 PM CST reply actions

Good thing this isn't at Wrigley,

the JJ-haters would be jumping down Sori's throat!

by eamuscatuli1881 on Mar 2, 2007 3:39 PM CST up reply actions

Speaking of JJ haters

has anyone suggested platooning him with Floyd in right and only playing him when right handers pitch?

"Chicago Cubs fans are ninety percent scar tissue." George F. Will

by JimmyJ31 on Mar 2, 2007 3:43 PM CST up reply actions

why would you platoon two lefties...

especially two lefties that have similar strengths and shortcomings.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Mar 2, 2007 3:47 PM CST up reply actions

Problem is...

... Floyd can't really hit lefties either anymore.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 2, 2007 3:47 PM CST up reply actions

re: Problem is...

I'm kinda intrigued by the idea of platooning Jones with Derosa in right and letting Theriot play second when DeRosa is in the outfield. This would not only restrict Jacque's at-bats to righties only, but maintain DeRosa's versatility, which may suffer if he only plays second base.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 3:52 PM CST up reply actions

Murton

now has 4 RBI

by Josh Timmers on Mar 2, 2007 3:39 PM CST reply actions

Murton again@

8-4

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 3:39 PM CST reply actions

Throw the bag, Lou!

THROW THE BAG!!!

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 3:42 PM CST reply actions

Curtis Pride

is still playing baseball? Man, he's like the ax murderer in a teen horror flick. Just when you think he's done . . .

by Josh Timmers on Mar 2, 2007 3:43 PM CST reply actions

Isn't he a country singer?

He sang "Is Anybody Goin' To San Antone?"

by eamuscatuli1881 on Mar 2, 2007 3:45 PM CST up reply actions

this curtis pride

has probably never heard that song

http://deafness.about.com/cs/celebfeatures/a/curtispride.htm

BAD JOKE SORRY

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 3:49 PM CST up reply actions

HUH?

WHAT?

by eamuscatuli1881 on Mar 2, 2007 3:51 PM CST up reply actions

you see..

he is hard of hearing.. and so would have .. trouble.. um.. listening to music..

ugg. the only thing worse than telling tasteless jokes is explaining tasteless jokes ;)

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 3:55 PM CST up reply actions

If

you've ever heard Curtis Pride talk (and he does talk after a fashion), you really don't want to hear him sing. Deaf people don't make the greatest singers.

I bet he could sign it very pretty though.

by Josh Timmers on Mar 2, 2007 3:55 PM CST up reply actions

Go Orange Guy!

Woohoo!

by phatass on Mar 2, 2007 3:43 PM CST reply actions

JOSH IN LA

Don't Forget - Dodger's single game tix on sale tomorrow @ noon!

I'm coming out for my annual Cubs/Dodger's series.

I was at the Maddux gem last year, but not the "DLEE" game.

Cardinals make me see Red!

by TheEman on Mar 2, 2007 3:44 PM CST reply actions

Except

that if you signed up for the Dodgers E-mail list, you could buy tickets on Wednesday. Which I did, and I already have purchased my tickets for Friday and Saturday! (Which even happens to be my birthday on Friday!)

by Josh Timmers on Mar 2, 2007 3:48 PM CST up reply actions

9-4

off of patersons's glove

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 3:50 PM CST reply actions

DUDE!! YOU COOL!

Actually - I have an "insider" from the biz out there hehe...

So, I think I'm golden as well.

I hope Sweet Lou saves a good starter for your B-Day, bro'.

Cardinals make me see Red!

by TheEman on Mar 2, 2007 3:52 PM CST reply actions

Patterson's downfall...

its well known, he is a shitty glove-man for a 2b.

A main reason why they have been working with him in the OF more.

Cardinals make me see Red!

by TheEman on Mar 2, 2007 3:55 PM CST reply actions

angels baseball

the angels radio crew is so much smoother than the cubs equivalent.

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 4:00 PM CST reply actions

re: angels baseball

I gotta admit, these guys are pretty good. Very smooth and easy to follow. I can't help wondering what their culinary preferences regarding beans are, though...

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 4:08 PM CST up reply actions

But...!

We HAVE SANTO!!

does he know what team we're playing today?

Oh wait - does he know he's not on the air today?

Cardinals make me see Red!

by TheEman on Mar 2, 2007 4:05 PM CST reply actions

stretch time

angels go down in order. 9-4 angels

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 4:06 PM CST reply actions

gameday reports only 8-4

either the operator has been sniffing glue, or you have. Either way, there's been some huffing going on.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Mar 2, 2007 4:12 PM CST up reply actions

possibly

gameday checked out when murton left?

its now 9-4 in the top of the 8th

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 4:15 PM CST up reply actions

did guzman give up a run?

because gameday reports 1.1 innings, 1 hit, no runs.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Mar 2, 2007 4:17 PM CST up reply actions

I've been wondering

which it is myself. 9-4 or 8-4...

by JF8 on Mar 2, 2007 4:16 PM CST up reply actions

honestly

I missed that last run

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 4:20 PM CST up reply actions

It could be worse...

...I just heard the Marlins got one hit today.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 4:12 PM CST reply actions

todays kspn broadcast

thus may be a dumb question, but can you listen to out of town broadcasts during the regular season online or does mlb black them out to make folks buy their package?

by clrkaddison on Mar 2, 2007 4:20 PM CST reply actions

usually

you have the option to listen to either broadcast when available. The ads stated no blackouts on audio.

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 4:21 PM CST up reply actions

out of town games

i meant can you listen to out of town broadcasts on line INSTEAD of buying the package.

by clrkaddison on Mar 2, 2007 4:24 PM CST up reply actions

mlb gameday audio

you can buy the radio streams at $14.95 for the entire year. That gets you every game of every team and you get to choose which team's announcers you want to hear, unlike the video.

by cashcowsquirtingsourmilk on Mar 2, 2007 4:29 PM CST up reply actions

mlb audio

i'm trying to avoid mlb audio. can i listen to games on line for free if the local team webcasts during the regular season or does mlb audio prevent this, forcing you to buy their package instead?
for instance, i am listening to the feed from kspn directly from their website, completely avoiding mlb audio. during the regular season, is this still possible, or does mlb prevent webcasts unless they come from their (mlb audio) feed?

by clrkaddison on Mar 2, 2007 4:35 PM CST up reply actions

I highly doubt it

what do you not like about mlb audio?

by cashcowsquirtingsourmilk on Mar 2, 2007 4:37 PM CST up reply actions

mlb audio

paying for it

by clrkaddison on Mar 2, 2007 4:38 PM CST up reply actions

i know

that wgn radio doesn't broadcast games online. I'm just hoping that the gameday audio clarity does improve once the reg season begins because this is not cutting it today...

It's hard to be humble when you're number one.

by JF8 on Mar 2, 2007 4:45 PM CST up reply actions

audio

kspn is coming in on my computer just fine, and i'm in joliet.

by clrkaddison on Mar 2, 2007 4:47 PM CST up reply actions

today's audio

is an exception. I've never heard it like this. They're just having tech problems. $15/year is a bargain. I wish we had it years ago. It's literally a dream come true.

by cashcowsquirtingsourmilk on Mar 2, 2007 4:50 PM CST up reply actions

audio

i understand 15 bucks is a bargain, but so is free. i just wondered if there was a free alternative.

by clrkaddison on Mar 2, 2007 4:53 PM CST up reply actions

Hint.

You can go to the Boston Red Sox website, and buy a membership in Red Sox Nation for $14.95.

That includes a few Red Sox trinkets and discounts, as well as MLB Audio.

Just sayin'.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 2, 2007 5:40 PM CST up reply actions

So is Murton

Sat today, it would be 8-0?

Or 9-0?

Cardinals make me see Red!

by TheEman on Mar 2, 2007 4:20 PM CST reply actions

re: So is Murton

9-0

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 4:21 PM CST up reply actions

err - I meant...

IF Murton sat today.

Cardinals make me see Red!

by TheEman on Mar 2, 2007 4:20 PM CST reply actions

MLB News Boxscore...

Has 8-4 Angels.Guzman 1 hit in 1.1

Rapadadada - 5 hits, 5 runs in .2 of an inning.

Cardinals make me see Red!

by TheEman on Mar 2, 2007 4:24 PM CST reply actions

its 9-4

Unless the angels announcers have been padding the score for the last inning.

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 4:25 PM CST up reply actions

In other news...

BREW is pounding SF 16-1 in the 7th. 18 hits.

Brewers put in a short center fielder, and next inning they are going w/out gloves and playing 16" softball.

Cardinals make me see Red!

by TheEman on Mar 2, 2007 4:27 PM CST reply actions

In other news...

LOL. Good one.

by tucsoncubsfan on Mar 2, 2007 4:40 PM CST up reply actions

to be hopeful

angels gave up 4 runs in the 9th yesterday

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 4:29 PM CST reply actions

Well then tomorrow the Sox and Cubs

will be battling for their first W!

Boy - we really do have a bunch of crap in the minors for position players. How do the Dodgers do it?

Cardinals make me see Red!

by TheEman on Mar 2, 2007 4:30 PM CST reply actions

9-6 cubs

on eric paterson hr.

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 4:32 PM CST reply actions

EPAT!!!

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 4:32 PM CST reply actions

Please - NO!

We need better nicknames in baseball. I reject "E Pat" right along with A-Rod and D-Lee and all the other uncreative nicknames we have today. Think of something better - or maybe I will.

"Hello again, everybody. Harry Caray from Wrigley Field on a beautiful day for baseball."

by danimal15 on Mar 2, 2007 9:09 PM CST up reply actions

"Korey's Better Brother"

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 3, 2007 4:22 AM CST up reply actions

top of the 9th

9-6 angels

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 4:34 PM CST reply actions

In Sosa News:

"Sammy Sosa went 0-for-3 with two strikeouts and a walk Friday in his spring debut in a "B" game for the Texas Rangers."

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 4:35 PM CST reply actions

Will ohman is now Pitching

Put away the rally hats

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 4:36 PM CST reply actions

ohman

3 up three down bottom of ninth coming up

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 4:40 PM CST reply actions

yes

kincaid double 1 out. Tomas perez up to bat

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 4:46 PM CST reply actions

tomas perez so

buck coats up

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 4:49 PM CST reply actions

I can't believe Perez struck out...

...I had such high expectations.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 4:49 PM CST reply actions

Final totals

H R E
Angels 13 9 0
Cubs 10 6 1

Repada with the lost

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 4:53 PM CST reply actions

End of story.

Ah, well. Zambrano pitched well. Howry looked great. Orange Guy did himself proud. DLee got another hit. And ARam put in some good D, if nothing else. It was a shame about Cotts, but nothing to panic about just yet.

All in all, our starters are looking good.

I didn't have the ball, bitch!

by daver on Mar 2, 2007 4:54 PM CST reply actions

how the hell did guzman give up a run?

it says he only gave up one hit (not a homer), and he walked no one, and I see no errors during his time pitching....

how....?

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Mar 2, 2007 5:02 PM CST reply actions

gary mathews homer?

I know he got one, just dont recall when

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 5:05 PM CST reply actions

these people...

running the boxscores need to get their shit together post-haste.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Mar 2, 2007 5:09 PM CST up reply actions

off Rapada

I think, during the big HR explosion. the wind was really howling out today.

by cashcowsquirtingsourmilk on Mar 2, 2007 5:10 PM CST up reply actions

here's your box

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/boxscore.jsp?gid=2007_03_02_anamlb_chnmlb_1

Peter S.

by HerrProf on Mar 2, 2007 5:09 PM CST reply actions

that's what I've been looking at

Guzman has an earned run from giving up one hit that wasn't a homer, and it shows no errors, no wild pitches, no walks, and nothing else.

I don't get it......

actually, I figured it out, but I'm too lazy to erase what I already wrote. The hit he gave up was a triple. he gave up the run off a sac fly, or a squeeze bunt or some other nonsense like that.

Baby, you got a stew goin'

by Thelonious on Mar 2, 2007 5:12 PM CST up reply actions