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Teacher Lou

MESA, Arizona -- For almost an hour before today's game, Lou Piniella stood outside the first-base dugout with Matt Murton. They were rather animatedly discussing various batting stances and approaches to hitting -- it was easy to tell this because they were pantomiming batting stances, and, all right, I'll admit it, Bruce Miles came out to the lawn and told me he'd seen it up close.

What a difference. Can you imagine Dusty Baker doing this? No, me either.

Clearly, it helped Murton today, as he had a single and two doubles, and also drew a two-out walk in the tenth inning, just before Ronny Cedeno (yes, that's not a misprint, Ronny Cedeno) won a breezy mess of a game with a walkoff three-run homer, 13-10 over the Royals.

The Royals are a really, really bad team. And the Cubs at first came out and played like they were going to beat them by twenty runs -- they scored five in the second inning off Jorge de la Rosa, after Rich Hill had given up back-to-back doubles to start the game, and the Cubs had tied it in the bottom of the first. It's not very often that you see a manager remove a pitcher in the middle of the second inning of an exhibition game, but Buddy Bell trudged out to the mound to replace de la Rosa with Jason Standridge.

I only know it was Standridge, incidentally, from the boxscore -- because you can't hear the PA speakers from the LF lawn, it was nearly impossible for me to figure out who the Royals' subs were today. They put fourteen different players into the game after the starting ten (ten, because again the Cubs agreed to use the DH today, to get Cliff Floyd some more AB's), and I had only heard of a couple of them -- Shane Costa, who went into RF in the fifth, and Octavio Dotel (how did he get to KC, anyway?), and David Riske, whose name I never heard announced. There were Royals wearing numbers 84, 95 and 96 today.

At the same time, their young third baseman, Alex Gordon -- now there's a player. He's a consensus pre-season choice for AL Rookie of the Year, and his homer off Michael Wuertz in the fifth gave the Royals an 8-6 lead, after Wuertz had allowed a three-run dinger to the previous batter, Mike Sweeney. Gordon made two outs in his previous at-bats, but both of them were hard-hit balls, and the second one was a screaming line drive to 1B that Derrek Lee made a very nice play on, in the fourth inning.

Rich Hill was a bit shaky with his command today; you could tell after the first inning that this game was going to drag on forever, and it would have even if it hadn't gone into extra innings. Hill's line is bad -- 8 hits, four earned runs; but he didn't walk anyone despite his lack of command, and two of the runs charged to him scored after he left the game, on the HR that Wuertz allowed. Wuertz did finally get out of the inning by striking out Emil Brown, and struck out the Royals' other hot prospect, infielder Billy Brewer, in the sixth, but he didn't have a good outing today.

The game slogged along, with the Cubs tying it up partly as the result of an error by Brewer on what should have been an inning-ending DP ball by Angel Pagan in the sixth; Ryan Theriot and Matt Murton then followed with gap doubles to right-center. The Cubs had eight extra-base hits among their twelve today (five doubles, a triple, and two HR, the Cedeno walk-off and yet another HR from Aramis Ramirez, who's just about as hot now as he was last spring). It was quite windy today, turning the sky in the Valley that puky yellow-gray color you sometimes see in Chicago when we have one of those summer heat inversions, but none of the five HR needed any help at all. I had left my spot on the lawn to stand down the LF line at the end of the game, otherwise I'd have had a fair shot at catching Cedeno's, as it hit off the scoreboard directly above where I usually sit.

In that LF corner, a few of us had some fun with one of the Royals and one of their training staff -- and for the life of me, I could NOT figure out who they were, even though I checked quite a few of their player profiles. The trainer (might have been a coach, except he was wearing a Royals pullover and shorts, not uniform pants) was putting the player (a Latino, and I only know this because I could hear him speaking with an accent) through some exercises. A few people started chanting "Let's go, Cubbies!" -- to which the player started clapping and helping lead the cheer.

Then someone asked the coach/trainer guy if Alex Gordon was the real deal. Reply: "He's had a great spring." The questioner then mentioned the recent profile of Gordon in Sports Illustrated, to which the coach/trainer replied, "That's the kiss of death!" -- to general laughter.

The game went about half an hour longer than it should due to a Ryan Dempster blowup. When he struck out Brewer on three pitches to start the 9th, I decided to keep a pitch count on Dempster. Bad idea, as the next three hitters all had solid hits. I gave up on the pitch count after that, because the third hit, a ground-rule double that scraped the chalk in LF as Murton tried to make a sliding catch, tied the game 10-10. The next hitter hit a comebacker to Dempster, who speared it in a way that you could tell he was angry with himself for having given up the three hits.

That set the stage for a dramatic last-of-the-ninth win, and we thought we had one when Cliff Floyd, of all people, beat out a slow roller down the third base line -- no, that's not a mistyped phrase, the ball died in the grass and 3B Mike Aviles couldn't field it. But that rally ended when Mark DeRosa grounded to Aviles, setting the stage for Cedeno's heroics.

The best part of Cedeno's at-bat, apart from the fact that it won the game, was the fact that he worked the count well. So did Murton before him, and so did Cesar Izturis before Murton, drawing a four-pitch walk. This is another part of Teacher Lou's approach -- oddly enough, for someone who never had much of a reputation as paying attention to things like on-base percentage, he's got virtually the entire team, including guys who used to hack away like Izturis and Cedeno, taking pitches and working counts.

Today's result is, I believe, a direct result of such teachings.

"Teacher Lou". I sure didn't think of him that way. But these Cubs are responding to his teachings, and the hour he spent with Matt Murton is just a very visible example of how Lou Piniella has put his stamp on this franchise before his club has played a single game that actually counts. That's a good thing.

And, Lou made it official before the game -- Wade Miller has won the fifth-starter slot, which means that Mark Prior likely starts the season at Iowa. Yes, he can be optioned, not placed on the DL and put there for a rehab assignment (thanks, Maddog, for clearing that up for me), and I think this is what will happen. Prior likely won't be very happy about it -- but it seems the best choice. We'll know more about him after tomorrow's game, which he will start against the Rockies.

With the group here over the weekend now scattered back to various places around the country, I expected to sit by myself today -- only to be greeted by Donna, who is a bleacher season ticket holder out visiting for the week, and in an odd coincidence, she happened to know the people whose blanket was next to mine. I also said hi to BCB reader "Ghost of Fred Merkle" (great username, BTW) and his two kids; his daughter very emphatically said that Matt Murton is her favorite player. So, she had a nice day watching him today!

Finally, during the Congressional hearings held today on the controversy surrounding the MLB Extra Innings package, Sen. John Kerry hinted that if the parties don't come to a deal, legislation might follow:

Kerry, who has asked the Federal Communications Commission to investigate, said in an interview after the hearing that legislation was a possibility but not his preference.

"Obviously, we're interested in it, a number of senators suggested the possibility of Congress doing something, but I'd like to see the parties get together in the next four days and hopefully resolve this," he said.

"If they can't get together, we are where we are and we'll look at what we're going to do."

Kerry asked the parties to put everything on hold till the Baseball Channel debuts in 2009, and allow inDemand and Dish Network to carry EI until then. They've got four days. I do think some sort of deal will be hammered out at the last minute. Stay tuned, as they say in the biz.

UPDATE [2007-3-27 21:49:15 by Al]: Late news from cubs.com -- Lou says he might actually go with an extra outfielder and send Angel Guzman to Iowa. They're still debating whether to keep the 12th pitcher -- personally, at least for the first two weeks where there are two off days, I'd send Guzman to Iowa, let him start twice, then maybe bring him back.

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THREAD HACKING!
Or whatever you call it...

But Al, seriously, what do you use to chart games?  I thoroughly enjoyed "doing the book" in my ballplaying days and still do at games; I was hoping to get a bit more intensive this year even during WGN broadcasts or World Series events...anyone care to pipe in on their recommendations as far as buying a certain brand or type of box score book?

Dan

PS - This isn't really hacking/hijacking, is it??

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Mar 27, 2007 8:03 PM CDT reply actions  

LOL
No, it's not. I just keep a conventional scorecard -- at Wrigley Field I score on the card that they sell there; at games like this, where your option is a $5 program with a glossy magazine page to score on, I have my own that I've made using Microsoft Publisher. It's pretty simple -- just a blank with enough boxes for 11 innings.

If you want the file I could email it to you.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 27, 2007 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another suggestion
I had the urge to keep score the other day watching at home. Instead of taking the time to make one myself, I found a couple useful ones here:

http://www.baseballscorecard.com/downloads.htm

"That would be a home run, if it were in a phone booth!" -Harry Caray

by riggs on Mar 27, 2007 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I literally LOL
while at work at your signature.  Congrats.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Mar 27, 2007 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

But isn't the Harry quote...
... "that WOULDN'T be a home run in a phone booth?"
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 27, 2007 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.
Al's right. It's "that wouldn't be a home run in a phone booth." Not "that would be a home run if it were in a phone booth." Actually found audio of it here:

http://www.powermaxconsulting.com/popfly.au

I was close, though...lol.

"High...pop fly...wouldn't be a home run in a phone booth!" -Harry Caray

by riggs on Mar 28, 2007 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gordon
Is definitely a player.  And his presence on the Royals is my reason for picking them my AL team to like this year.  Of course, the only question is why did K.C. wait until this year to bring up the #2 Overall Draft Pick and Nebraska Cornhusker (you knew I would throw that in!) to the bigs - he clearly didn't belong in AA Wichita when I saw him play here in San Antonio last year.

Lou is impressing me this year.  I can't wait the 5 days to see where his '100% different' approach takes this team.  

FIVE DAYS!!!  Lets play some ball!

Go Nebraska Football!

by sanantonecub on Mar 27, 2007 8:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Gordon
is going to be a stud.  I'm just worried that people have unrealistic expectations for what he's going to do this year.

He really could be the next George Brett, but Brett his .282 with 2 HR in his first season in the majors.  I think Gordon will exceed that, but I wouldn't be surprised by .290/.333/.450 with about a dozen homers.

And as far as Al's assertion that he's a consensus pre-season RoY pick, I think there's a Japanese pitcher in Boston that might be a heavier favorite than Gordon.

by Josh Timmers on Mar 27, 2007 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alex is going to be great!
My kid played T-ball, Little League, Babe Ruth, and high school ball against Alex's little brother (who is a good kid, but can't play like Alex), and both my kids went to grade school and middle school with Alex.  He was already the real deal very early on.  When he played for the Cornhuskers, he showed an ability to hit in  the clutch and to make great defensive plays.  I've been in Lincoln, Nebraska for 24 years, and there are a lot of Cub fans here.  But awful as the Royals are, a lot of us will be watching Gordon this summer and hoping he shows what we've always seen.
Hoping to goodness is not theologically sound. --Linus

by moldyfolky on Mar 27, 2007 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Royals and Gordon
Sadly, I will not be able to make it to Chicago for opening day this year.  Instead, a group of friends and I are skipping class to go to KC for the Boston series and to cheer on Alex.  He was always a class act and I hope he does well.

by Bleed Husker Red on Mar 28, 2007 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who kidnapped
Cedeno and who did they return to us? Whoever he is he has power, let's keep him!

Good nickname for Lou, he might be a breath of fresh air..... as long as he wins!

I'm a bleedcubbiebluer!

by mrcubsfan on Mar 27, 2007 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Better..
check him for the cream and the clear..:)
Well, sometimes nothin is a real cool hand.

by wicubfan on Mar 27, 2007 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Al doesn't make mistakes
The score magically changed.
Go Nebraska Football!

by sanantonecub on Mar 27, 2007 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoops!
Well, it only NEEDED to be 11-10. I'll fix it. Long day.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 27, 2007 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh gosh,
I can't emphasize enough how much I really like the old codger, Lou. I think it's got something to do with the "100% different" approach!  

If Lou can such a positive impact on Cedeno, can he make Izzy better also?

Hey Lou, we're long overdue.

by deadcatbounce on Mar 27, 2007 8:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Hell...
If he can affect Cedeno, he just might be God.

by Patblue on Mar 27, 2007 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Imagine the possiblities...
...with HANK WHITE!!  If Cendeno can be saved, maybe Hank can be saved, maybe I can be saved, maybe YOU can be saved!!!

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Mar 27, 2007 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL
But seriously, one of the biggest differences you can see right away is that the Cubs now take BP every single day. That was NOT the case last spring.

Today, the Royals hit on the main field, but the Cubs were taking BP on one of the back fields at the same time.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 27, 2007 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well...Everything but
Hank White!

He is the GIDP Man!

Cardinals make me see Red!

by TheEman on Mar 27, 2007 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lou!
When I was stationed in Japan, I got to see Lou's Mariners daily, and he is exactly what I anticipated.  Patient ABs.  Eschew the bunt to hit to the right side, some of 'em will make it through.  With contact, 85% of the time you'll move the runner over, and 30% of the time, you'll have runners on 1st & 2nd or the corners.

I did think Joe G would be a younger version of the Lou I knew, but now I'm not so sure.

PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Mar 27, 2007 9:13 PM CDT reply actions  

You guys ever hear
the story about when John Kerry walked into a bar and the bartender asked, "Why the long face, John?"
Curtis

by Bricks and Ivy on Mar 27, 2007 9:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Two questions...

(1) Why have I suddenly became so sold on Lou??  I felt this way when Baker was immediately hired, fresh of a Giants playoff trip (I think?).  There has to be something bad about Lou.  Seriously though, folks, right now it sounds like Lou could do no wrong, I am trying to take a step back and see what he doesn't or (historically) will do wrong...

(2) WHAT THE HELL is so idiotic about hitting every day, taking pitches, or PRACTICING??!!  I've done this at the grade school, high school, and collegiate level...why would they stop in the pros?  I wish I knew Dusty wasn't doing this a few years ago, I woulda quit my Dusty-toothpick fetish.  Now it is too damned  late, I'm addicted.

Rant over.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Mar 27, 2007 9:22 PM CDT reply actions  

You're right about all of this.
I do truly think that Lou got some perspective on the game with his year off, as he said in the HBO piece that ran a few weeks ago.

Combine that with his 40 years of experience, and his desire to win, I think we may have stumbled onto something even better than anyone had imagined.

I don't care if he throws a single base, or even throws his hat down a few times. Just win.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 27, 2007 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gonna Have to Face It....
You're addicted to Lou...

Voluptuous girls dressed in red leather and red lipstick sway in unison behing dtpollitt on the microphone

PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Mar 27, 2007 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm glad
they are teaching and working before the games. that was one of, if not my biggest criticism of baker--he seemed to think his teams would magically get and stay good, because, well, "his teams are like that". whatever.

i don't however, understand why batting practice helps. for a skill so dependent on timing, it seems wierd to practice hitting 95 mph fastballs, 90 mph sliders, and 85 mph curveballs by hitting 75-80 mph fastballs in batting practice. maybe its just a function of not having enough good pitchers to throw bp.

DEJESUS!!!

by tomas21 on Mar 27, 2007 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think BP...
... is more to work on situational hitting, just to get swinging reps in for muscle memory, more than to hit a 95 MPH pitch, which you correctly point out couldn't happen in BP.

Baker's teams didn't do this and their poor preparation showed. I think it's all part of being in the mindset of working at your craft.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 27, 2007 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Batting practice is important...
...because you can still work on bat speed, form, make tiny little tweaks, ball placement and scattering on the field, etc.  I do not know of many teams that take batting practice in front of continuous, live pitching; it would (1) be too difficult to have "always ready" pitchers and (2) B.P. still offers valuable lessons, from other hitters or coaches.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Mar 27, 2007 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cedeno
seems to have made the 25th roster spot an easy decision.  That would give us Blanco, Theriot, Floyd, Ward + Cedeno on the pines.  I think that must mean that they're comfortable with Theriot and perhaps DeRosa in the OF on occasion  and their going to deal Pagan.  I'd take a Marlins AA pitcher for him.

I'm not wild about a 5-man bench that includes Floyd and Ward, since both are statues on defense.  But I really believe in having 2 lefty PHs.  I think you can win some games that way.  And since the lineup is heavily right-handed, there are worse options than going with the statues.

by bleacher on Mar 27, 2007 9:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Why does our bench...
...always suck??  Ward and Floyd scare the shit outta me; a grandma in a walker could run better - hell - ARAMIS could run better!!  

Who was it that nicknamed our bench the last few years?  Neifi?  I guess that was his sole contribution to the Cubs...

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Mar 27, 2007 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Floyd...
... beat out an infield hit in the 9th inning today. Surprised the heck out of everyone. Maybe he's getting better with that heel.

Theriot and DeRosa can both play multiple positions, as can Cedeno. Blanco can play 1B in an emergency. Ward... well, he's not a very good 1B, but he can at least play there. Floyd... a statue in LF, at least he was the last time I saw him out there.

This is why I think they should be carrying 11 pitchers, at least till the off days of the first couple of weeks are past. Guzman could start a couple of times at Iowa and then return to the majors, say, around mid-April.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 27, 2007 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aren't you getting the feeling...
...that Murton is winning the starting job in left?  What are we gonna do with Floyd then?  I am so completely confused about the Floyd/Jones/Murton/outfield situation that I simply have no idea even where to begin if I wanted to tangibly attempt to solve the problem.  

It sounds to me that here on BCB, it is clear that Murton is our so-called outfielder of the future, someone we have been dying to have - a man that takes pitches AND gets on base!  I am still confused about the Floyd signing, then, mainly because the season starts next week and we still have Jones.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Mar 27, 2007 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good question.
I have no idea. It's entirely possible Floyd will pinch-hit and start once a week at first. Maybe Jones will have more trade value at midseason.

But it's clear, Lou likes Murton and Murton's performance this spring has won him the job.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 27, 2007 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Floyd...
...reminds me of another aging Cubs outfielder a few years back that strives for the glamorous, big-money plays, while dogging it on others...

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Mar 27, 2007 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm Liking the Outfield Traffic Jam
I think signing Cliff Floyd was a great move with some real upside to it.  It simply doesn't get much better than having Floyd's big left handed bat available from the bench.  Sure beats the pants off of having another Todd Hollandsworth / Gary (Garry?) Varsho prototype veteran.

(Am I showing my age by mentioning Varsho?)

He's on the Cubs to play a role which he will start getting accustomed to playing:  Veteran Bench Guru - but with a thunder stick!  My only concern is that his contract included playing time bonuses.  (AB's or PA's?)  That sends a mixed message concerning his role.

Don't get me wrong.  I like Murton and think he should get the lion's share of playing time. However, I just think that having Floyd on the Cubs makes the entire team a much more flexible and formidable opponent overall.

Floyd will rob some AB's from Murton this year (probably a lot more than what most Murton backers are willing to sacrifice) but it will be to benefit the team.  Lou will make the right decisions and find playing time for all of them, I'm sure.  I hope Murton fans realize this fact and don't seek to critique every little thing that Floyd does or does not do (hitting, defense, etc.) this season in Murton's absence.

Floyd was a great acquisition.  We shouldn't shuffle our feet and look at the ground - we should celebrate!

There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Mar 27, 2007 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed
too early to tell though. If floyd contributes he'll be a good signing and if not people won't like it. I don't think he'll get the 425 plate appearances he'll need for the 2008 option to kick in, and certaintly not the 500 for all that extra money. I forget the exact figure but it was a lot more. knowing piniella he'll get about as much time as he deserves, which we all know is a refreshing change from the previous dude.

by cashcowsquirtingsourmilk on Mar 27, 2007 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow!
That's probably the first time in months that the word "dude" has been used on this site!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 27, 2007 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Call me crazy,
but I see Floyd as kind of a left-handed version of Glenallen Hill. A liability in the field with a monster bat, not a whole lot of speed but you don't have to run very fast if the ball is on Sheffield.
Good morning ma'am... I'm here to fix the cable. -- Lee Northwood

by eamuscatuli1881 on Mar 28, 2007 7:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

the outfield
I don't know what's so confusing about the situation. Were you really expecting jones to be traded? The Cubs starting outfield for most of the games will be Murton/Soriano/Jones. Floyd will be used for pinch-hitting and there will be those times when he'll simply have to play the field- left field. Murton can't start all 162 games. He'd be better off with some rest once a week or so. Floyd will also be the DH quite a bit in interleague games. Hopefully his foot will heal well enough to handle LF when he is out there later. There is no reason to push it in ST since the games don't mean much. That's why he's looked like a statue out there. No need to push it in April either. I can see him in the field a bit more later in the season.

Ward is the back-up at 1B- which won't be needed much hopefully. He's pretty much another pinch-hitter. I'm just glad we have these guys with power instead of the macias/neifi/mabry/bynum types who've been on the club the last couple years. I also assume Theriot is the RF guy when JJ is given a rest against tough LHP.  

by cashcowsquirtingsourmilk on Mar 27, 2007 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Either that...
... or DeRosa plays RF and Theriot 2B vs. the "tough lefties".

Theriot made another error in RF today... he's still a work in progress in the outfield.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 27, 2007 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah,
seems like we've talked about that many times, but I think Lou wants to keep DeRosa at 2nd and a back-up at 3rd. Has DeRosa even played any RF this spring? whichever works. What did that error today look like anyway? I only read about it.

by cashcowsquirtingsourmilk on Mar 27, 2007 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

WAIT A MINUTE!
We have SIX inter-league games!

That's 6 games Uncle Cliff can DH for.

Cardinals make me see Red!

by TheEman on Mar 27, 2007 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

What about Ward?
Isn't he also a DH-type?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 27, 2007 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Definately
has the body type
Well, sometimes nothin is a real cool hand.

by wicubfan on Mar 27, 2007 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually 9, right?
3 against the white sox in their park, 3 seattle, 3 texas

by cashcowsquirtingsourmilk on Mar 27, 2007 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope.
The Seattle series is at Wrigley Field.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 27, 2007 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK, thanks
a few other things could determine how Lou decides between floyd and murton on a certain day. match-ups for one thing.

by cashcowsquirtingsourmilk on Mar 27, 2007 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Weather and Ballpark Dimensions
too.  
There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Mar 27, 2007 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Loving Cedeno's attitude
 Here's some quotes from Cubs.com:

On how Lou has helped him be more patient at the plate:

He said to concentrate more and when I get two strikes, be more relaxed," Cedeno said. "The only thing is, I'm taking one strike every at-bat. Now I feel I'm not swinging at bad pitches."

 His state of mind entering the 2007 season:

"I know I'll be a backup," he said. "But when [Piniella] gives me a chance, I have to do my job. I'm so happy to make the team. He's giving me an opportunity. I have to show him I can play. If he needs me for any situation, like pinch-runner, pinch-hitter, I'll be there."

On his less than spectacular 2006 Rookie season:

"I know I'll be a backup," he said. "But when [Piniella] gives me a chance, I have to do my job. I'm so happy to make the team. He's giving me an opportunity. I have to show him I can play. If he needs me for any situation, like pinch-runner, pinch-hitter, I'll be there."

 It's attitudes like that that you just can't help but root for.

"What's it all about? Booze, Broads and bullshit." Harry Caray

by lemon17pie on Mar 28, 2007 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

EDIT: OOPSIES
On his 2006 season:
"I learned some things," Cedeno said about the 2006 season. "I'll make more adjustments. Who knows what will happen? I have to be patient for any situation and I'll be OK. I'll work more, take ground balls at second base, shortstop. I never want to be traded. I want to be with the Chicago Cubs the rest of my life, and play every day. Maybe next year, this year, who knows?"

 

"What's it all about? Booze, Broads and bullshit." Harry Caray

by lemon17pie on Mar 28, 2007 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I absolutely love it
When I hear players say "I never want to be traded, I want to be a Cub forever."  It just shows that they actually love the organization and appreciate what it has done for them.  I know it's only spring and his numbers will drop during the regular season, but I think we'll see quit a bit of Kid Ronny this year.  Izturis will have his slumps.  I'm hoping we see about as much of him as we see Floyd in the field.  Maybe once a week?  My only concern is that limited playing time will mean that he isn't likely to improve significantly at short, where he was a butcher at times last season.
MURTON!! Just trying to help his karma so he gets 500+ ABs.

by 26.2cubfan on Mar 28, 2007 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cedeno will get playing time...
... for exactly the reasons you state.

And if he plays well, and keeps that positive attitude he seems to have acquired, the starting SS job will be his to lose in 2008.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 28, 2007 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Last Bullpen Spot
After Micheal Wuertz' not so great outing today is it possible he has lost the last roster spot to Cherry. Cherry has pitched well and may have earned that last roster spot. I know Lou has said that Wuertz has made the roster but he has not looked as good a Cherry. We may see a revolving door during the season for that last spot in the pen.
"Harlem Furniture......You'll like our style!"

by Imtrejo on Mar 27, 2007 10:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Good point.
Cherry has already been optioned, but could easily enough be recalled. I'm sure we will see Cherry throw at least one more time in Mesa, or maybe this weekend in Las Vegas, before rosters are finalized.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 27, 2007 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

One of my strongest impressions of the spring
is that Pie is good--and he is close to ready.  Having said that, I think he needs to go to Iowa because he must play every day.  If Floyd can run on that heel (and he looked like he could), he'll be an asset, although he's going to steal some ABs from Murton.  But like some others, Pinella has convinced me that he considers Murton the starter.  If Murton doesn't get at least 400 ABs, something's wrong.  But if he gets those 400 AB's, I think Pinella will figure out how best to use Floyd.  Jones is something else--we need him unless and until they bring Pie up.  Maybe we bring Pie up when we get a good deal for Jones, including picking up his whole salary.

Having Floyd and Ward as lefty PHs makes sense as long as Theriot and DeRosa can fill in RF occasionally.  I'd really like to know if Lou thinks either could platoon with Jones because he can't hit lefties at all.  He'd never start vs a lefty if I managed the team.

by bleacher on Mar 27, 2007 10:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Full Salary
I think you could actually work a deal that involved the Cubs eating some of Jones' salary.  Pie is making next-to-nothing, so the net effect is a decrease in payroll unless we get a vet in return, which I don't think is likely.  If we pay half of Jones' salary and get a couple prospects in return it's still a drop in payroll.
MURTON!! Just trying to help his karma so he gets 500+ ABs.

by 26.2cubfan on Mar 28, 2007 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

The problem is...
... everyone in baseball knows the Cubs would like to move Jones and put Pie in the lineup. Thus, no one is offering anything useful. The salary isn't the holdup -- it's making a deal that would actually bring something in return.

Maybe at midseason, if someone is looking for an outfielder like Jones, it might become more of a seller's market.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 28, 2007 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good point
I would wager that by mid-season, some team in the hunt will look very hard at Jones. A .280 hitting OF who has some power (even though his throwing arm is worse than mine) should definitely have some value. Of course, let's hope the Cubs won't be able to trade him because he's helping out so much in their own pennant race.
"Hello again, everybody. Harry Caray from Wrigley Field on a beautiful day for baseball."

by danimal15 on Mar 28, 2007 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jones is not a problem
Just like everyone else, I couldn't stand his play early last year. But this is a new year and a new manager. We won't be seeing him starting against every LH pitcher this year. His stats against RH are very acceptable. His salary is manageable. Let's keep him and see what happens. Let's judge him on the basis of what he can do for us in 2007.
Players win awards but teams win championships.

by tharr on Mar 28, 2007 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bullpen
I still don't get it. Why the hell is Neil Cotts going to be in the pen? They don't need three leftys. Cotts isn't a long man. Cherry and Wuertz should be in the pen ahead of Cotts. If the Cubs feel that working Guzman in as a swing man rather than having him start every fifth day in the minors, he, too, should make this club ahead of Cotts. The only reason Cotts will make this club is so Hendry can save some face.

DmL

by dmlichte on Mar 27, 2007 10:19 PM CDT reply actions  

I Agree
n/t
There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Mar 27, 2007 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed
"Hello again, everybody. Harry Caray from Wrigley Field on a beautiful day for baseball."

by danimal15 on Mar 28, 2007 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Al...
that quote in that article was Lou screwing up and saying outfielders instead of pitchers.  He's said he's going with 12 pitchers so many time this spring that I can't imagine he doesn't go with 12 pitchers.  Angel Guzman will make the team.

by Maddog on Mar 27, 2007 10:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes, I saw that.
But the article seemed to indicate that there IS a debate still going on about whether Guzman will make the roster as the 12th pitcher... or Pagan will be an extra hitter.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 27, 2007 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe,
but I'd be shocked to see them go with 11 pitchers.  Piniella has said too many times that he feels 12 pitchers are going to be necessary, which they probably will be in the early going.

by Maddog on Mar 27, 2007 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's Guzman vs Cotts
since I think they're both going to make the team, barring a trade.  But I share your feelings about Cotts.  He's really doing nothing to win a spot other than be the subject of a trade in which we gave away a RHer who could throw 95+--something we could use.  And having 3 lefties is probably more than you need, especially if one pitches like Cotts has pitched this spring.

by bleacher on Mar 27, 2007 10:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Guzman vs Pagan
is interesting.  Maybe if the Marlins won't cough up the guy we like, we send Guzman down for a while, so they can think about it.  But I'd like Guzman to spend most of the year in Wrigley, since I think a good way to break in a guy as a starter is to have him fill in for a year as a long-man, especially a guy who's been hurt.  Guzman probably isn't capable of pitching 150 IP without hurting himself again at this point in his career.

by bleacher on Mar 27, 2007 10:31 PM CDT reply actions  

It was great...
...to meet you Al.  Fortunately, none of the other Berm Bums were carrying clipboards or I would have never found you!  As a daily reader/lurker, I love your blog and appreciate the time and effort that you put into it.

I was up the first base line (where Howry nicely came right over to my kids to give them autographs) during batting practice when "Teacher Lou" and Murton were chatting.  We could see that Lou was discussing where his wrists needed to break, etc.  At one point, Murton was doing some sort of drill where he was letting the bat fly out of his hands at the breaking point of his wrists.  It looked like Lou was telling him which direction the bat should be flying.

Given that they took batting practice on the back field, it was a bit unusual that this instructional session took place in front of the Cubs dugout.  None of the other players were on the field yet....but Matt and Lou came walking in and plopped down in front of the dugout for the private tutoring session.

Did Lou want all of the fans to see his interactive nature?

by Ghost of Fred Merkle on Mar 27, 2007 10:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice to meet you too..
... and your extremely cute kids as well.

You may have a point about Lou. Maybe he's trying to tone down his "yelling and screaming" image in favor of something mellower.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 27, 2007 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll echo the Ghost of Fred Merkle's sentiments
and say that I'm sorry I missed "Fred," since the real Fred was a near HoFamer, who got a raw deal on that fateful day in '08--somewhat like Buckner, except that Merkle was simply following the accepted practice of the day (little did he know that Evers had clued in O'Day several weeks before).

Anyway, it was great meeting not only Al, but also Mark, Jessica, and Lisa, whose monikers I don't have handy, at spring training.  Meeting some of the BCB crowd was wonderful for a Cub fan who doesn't meet a lot of kindred spirits in Central Oregon.  Now, if Senator Kerry can just scare off the MLB moguls from costing me my EI subscription on Dish, I'll consider it a rewarding spring.  Oh yeah, and have the deity fix the PriorWood shoulders, get a great trade for Jones, have Pie be RoY, and have Soriano learn the strike zone.  I figure if you're going to be asking, you ought to ask for it all.

P.S.  Z, DLee, ARam to not get hurt, Izturis to pick it all year, Marquis to somehow avoid bats, the BP to be better than I think it's going to be, etc., etc.

by bleacher on Mar 27, 2007 11:37 PM CDT reply actions  

I was one
of those who didn't really want Lou as the next manager but I said I would give him a chance and I really like what I've seen so far.
Go Cubs!!

by sue369 on Mar 28, 2007 10:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Lou Piniella vs Leo Durocher
I found a comment I made last May and thought it was amusing. The link is below. Although, I don't really see the similarities because Lou is a much nicer person than Durocher. But at the time I thought the tough side of Piniella is what we needed in contrast to the "laid back california dude", which were Dusty's words. Lou is tough-love. Leo the Lip was mostly a horse's ass during that late 60's-early 70's era. The game had passed him by.

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/comments/2006/5/12/20753/8024/27#27

by cashcowsquirtingsourmilk on Mar 28, 2007 11:08 AM CDT reply actions  

It's not the tough guy we needed...
... it's the LEADER that Piniella is. He has a purpose, he has a plan, and LEADS. Baker never did.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 28, 2007 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

depends
what we mean by "tough" I guess. I don't mean punching rob dibble and screaming at guys. I mean what you just said- the qualities that make a good leader- getting on players when they make a mistake, and yes that means getting in their faces when it's needed, and there will be more of that when the real games begin.

by cashcowsquirtingsourmilk on Mar 28, 2007 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree...
... but there are good ways and bad ways of "getting into someone's face".

Now, what Lou did yesterday with Matt Murton -- patiently discussing batting stances for an hour -- or what he's done with Ronny Cedeno -- those are GOOD ways of doing that.

Punching people and screaming -- that wouldn't make me want to listen to Lou's considerable knowledge. Maybe he's finally figured out how to combine the two things. That's a good thing.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 28, 2007 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

MLB Extra-Innings
Can someone please explain to me what the heck is going on with this Extra-Innings crap?  From what I gather, it all comes down to money.  Are there two network providers (Direct TV and IN Demand) fighting over the right to show out of market games?  Why can't they both carry the package and nobody will have to switch providers or subcribe to MLB.TV?  I live in Illinois and get all the Cubs games.  I guess I feel sorry for those people who follow a team that is not in their market.

by VandalayIndustries on Mar 28, 2007 11:27 AM CDT reply actions  

Al : You are NOT getting EI
and can I bet a steak dinner with those 2 Big Gulps ? I think you have more faith in show and tell Congressional hearings than you do in the Cubs. I hate to be mean but what don't you get here. So Kerry holds a hearing and as the headline said "Laments" the situation. There is nothing Congress can or will do to stop the deal and by the way IN DEMAND latest "offer" is pretty pathetic. They and Kerry want a two year "cooling off period" while the Baseball Channel is developed. Um FAT CHANCE. MLB got what it wanted from Direct TV and other than  a bit of posturing nothing will happpen.

FYI if American Idol  made a deal to move the show to Direct TV
should Congress step in ? It has about 100 million MORE viewers
than EI.

Well at least I am off the hook on Big Gulps

I love the ballpark. I love the city. I love the fans. Aside from how we've played this year, there's nothing not to like about Chicago." Greg Maddux 7/29/06

by jessica on Mar 28, 2007 1:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Do you have definitive knowledge...
... that there won't be a deal by the 31st? If so, let's hear it.

If not, I'm waiting till I hear "no deal".

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 28, 2007 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fantasy Baseball Leagues
I know this is off topic.  But does anyone have a fantasy baseball site that they would recommend.  Specifically a free site.  My friends and i were looking to create some sort of league but i'm really not sure what is out there.  One of the main features that i would like is to have specific pitchers on my team and not picking an entire pitching staff.  If anyone has any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated.

by moneymike1120 on Mar 28, 2007 3:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Yahoo...
has free Fantasy baseball and you can pick any pitcher you want.  If you want to start scoring on Sunday, I'd hurry.

by VandalayIndustries on Mar 28, 2007 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

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