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The worst day in Dodger Stadium history?

This comes from the web site www.laobserved.com:

Opening day will be remembered as the day the McCourts' incompetence, which is effectively obscured when the team plays well, finally became impossible to ignore. They are in a jam. There is no PR solution to it. They need to admit their grievous error, and fix it fast.

What could all the angst be about? Well, it's...parking.

If you've even been to Chavez Ravine -- especially that first visit -- it can be pretty confusing. You can enter the park from many ways -- but so many want to take the 'easy' route (Stadium Way, from the Pasadena Freeway) that's usually grid-lock, even on normal game days. There are other back ways, many not even marked anymore, since the 1962 directional signs  "Stadium" (in the middle of a baseball) have all fallen down, painted with graffiti, etc. The city has never replaced the missing signs.

The massive lot is confusing from the getgo, but at least up until yesterday, once you entered the lot, you could park in any 'unreserved' area.(Lots close to the gates are for season ticketholders, employees, players, and a host of other VIP's.) But now, the Dodgers say certain ticket-holders can only enter certain entrances, and you can only park in a certain 'quadrant.'
(And the price went up from $10 to $15!)

more from laobserved.com:

But at game time the entrance was still hopelessly clogged, and we could see cars moving around even in the fourth inning. "Hundreds of cars were still lined up at least a quarter-mile outside the Sunset-Exit A gate," the Times reported. "Frustrations were rising, especially as some fans were told they could not park in their usual spots, in order to comply with the new 'controlled zone parking,' which is being implemented this season."

Jon Weisman at Dodger Thoughts, post-game: "On the phone with my brother and father right now - both with 20-plus years of experience negotiating Dodger Stadium traffic. They are still in the stadium parking lot, having moved 'a foot and a half in 35 minutes.' My brother calls it 'truly a disaster' and 'the worst I've seen it,' even accounting for it being Opening Day."

Parking Hell?

Really, really bad -- from Tribco West:

Martha Ustick of Long Beach, a 27-year season-ticket holder, called it "the worst parking fiasco I've ever seen." Ustick said the line before the game was so backed up that she had to park near an elementary school well outside the stadium grounds for fear that she would miss the first few innings.

Cindy Myers, 50, of Yorba Linda, who said she has attended more than a dozen opening days and "never ever" missed a first pitch or ceremony, breathed a sigh of relief when she got to the Stadium Way exit off the 5 Freeway at 11:30 a.m. But she was still bottled up in the parking lot two hours later when she heard the crowd roar as pitcher Jason Schmidt belted a third-inning home run.

By the time Myers got to her seat, it was the middle of the fourth inning, and she was practically in tears. She planned to demand a refund for the game -- and maybe even for the rest of her family's 15-game mini-season pass.

"I don't care if I ever go to another Dodger game," she said. "I can't imagine going there again on Wednesday night."

Throughout the afternoon, radio traffic reporters warned commuters that the parking problems at Dodger Stadium were reverberating throughout the freeway system. It only got worse when the game ended as the afternoon commute set in.

So, when it seems that it's bad at Clark & Addison, remember -- it could be worse.

And, other reports said -- the concession stands ran out of Dodger Dogs. (How do you run out of hot dogs on Opening Day? Perhaps the gluttons in the all-you-can-eat section in RF ate them all.)

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Wow, that's bad.
I got stuck in a jam like that when I was invited to Opening Day at Dodger Stadium... nineteen years ago. I see nothing's changed. Oh, and I had to stand in line at will-call for 20 minutes to get my ticket, after the game had started.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Apr 10, 2007 6:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Parking hell?
I've been stuck in a traffic jam on the Pasadena Freeway at 1.00am, thanks to a Dodger game!

Still, you gotta love those Dodger dogs--if they're to be had.  What happened?  Did a rowdy bunch of PETA followers interrupt the flow?

LRRF

"God, grant me the Serenity to accept the Prior I cannot change, and the wisdom to know I'll be disappointed."

by Littlerock Rynofan on Apr 10, 2007 6:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Yesterday was the first day
Of the "all-you-can-eat-seat" for 35-bucks in the RF Pavilion. If you go through all the stories in the LA Times yesterday, you'll find they had to close the concession stands out in RF in the 7th -- and the fans in the stands were not happy...

The traffic problem started in the morning rush, and continued all day long. The lot wasn't opened until 10:30. (It has opened as early as 7:30 on Opening Day.) The Dodgers don't want tailgaters. (Given the drunken atmosphere and the out-of-control behavior that takes place before Chargers games at Qualcomm, I'm all for that.)

(However, given the horrible traffic conditions that were building outside the ball park, any idiot could have seen that something had to be done to let the people in, and to clear the surface streets. Only one of the entrances is a multiple-lane road. The others are all side-streets.)

So, people came early, not knowing they couldn't get in. So, the gridlock began, and lasted all day long, spreading to other freeways.

To make matters worse, one LA Times columnist took a pot shot at the ball park itself, calling it "aging," in one specific article. (Perhaps he was stuck in traffic, or he's upset about the pending sale of Tribco.)

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Apr 10, 2007 7:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Well...
... Dodger Stadium is 45 years old. Many stadiums of that age have been replaced.

But just as in Chicago -- where, and who pays? They've been over a decade out there trying to build a new football stadium to try to get a NFL team back in the market, and have failed.

I think they're stuck with the problem.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Apr 11, 2007 3:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Unlike Candlestick, Qualcomm
and whatever they are calling the Oakland Colseium, Dodger Stadium is in fine shape. The O' Malley family tended to that place very well. Even with the renovations, the facility still seems very modern. It does not need replacing. The aforementioned 3 stadiums DID.

However, McCourt will get his new ball park -- eventually, and it will be downtown, probably near the Staples Center. There have been rumblings of building a NFL facility in the Dodger Stadium parking lot, then leveling the ball park. That makes sense to use that area 10-12 times a year, not 82.

Not that there is anything on anybody's drawing table -- but this is a vision that I think, eventually happens in LA, but not immediately. Give it 8 to 10 years, or whenever the NFL gives LA a team -- because it does not appear any team is going to move there (maybe the Saints, eventually) and the NFL will have to expand.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Apr 11, 2007 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only
Dodger games I want to attend this year are the Cubs games. That's soley because of the parking situation. And I'm iffy on the Cubs games if the situation doesn't improve.

Rob and I have attended 10 to 20 Dodgers games a year for the past several years. Can you imagine the impact if others like us decide to stop going because of this mess?

by helen on Apr 10, 2007 8:19 PM CDT reply actions  

I go to Dodgers Stadium
ONLY when the Cubs are in town.  Otherwise, I can't wait for Chavez Ravine to open and up and swallow the damn place when the Big One hits.

by JFCubFan on Apr 10, 2007 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

For a while there, I thought they had placed
an ad in the stadium without announcing it to their fan base.
Dallas Green!

by SonnyJ9 on Apr 10, 2007 8:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Dodger Stadium is a huge mess
There's a lot going on in the Dodgers blogosphere about this...
The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by scareduck on Apr 10, 2007 8:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Er
Link to disingenuousness kvetching.
The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by scareduck on Apr 10, 2007 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

So boys and girls,
you wanted a new owner for the Cubs, you will get one.

Let's hope it's not one that features "institutional incompetence." (Perhaps that's what we have endured for the last 25 years, and the 50 prior to that)

Upon my vists to Dodger Stadium, even on vacation trips as a kid (My parents and I attended an Angels game at Chavez Ravine in 1967) I have been in traffic jams, but I have experienced nothing like Dodgers fans had to endure yesterday.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Apr 10, 2007 10:00 PM CDT reply actions  

The good news is that
the new owner of Wrigley won't be able to screw up stadium parking like the McCourts did because it doesn't exist.

The bad news is that there are plenty of other things that can be messed up.

And when they do (and we know they will), us blog denizens will take special pride in our energetic zeal to point out such institutional incompetence, as you put it.

by JFCubFan on Apr 10, 2007 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds Worse Than DC
As I mentioned to Al in Milwaukee, there were similar problems in DC on Opening Day.  The parking situation was much better, but the concession situation was much worse.  They almost immediately ran out of many concessions, and some people reported being sold cold/unheated hot dogs.

Details, should you choose to read them, here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/02/AR2007040201071.html

Needless to say, in comparison I had a very positive response to the Levy Survey that was left at the Wrigley concession stands on Opening Day.

¡BLANCO!

by 08Cubs on Apr 10, 2007 11:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Guess that...
...goes part of the way to explain why their fans show up in the 3rd inning and start to leave in the 7th.

by Shawon O Meter on Apr 11, 2007 10:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Their fans also drive long distances
It's a huge market. The freeways are bad all the time. So, there are delays getting in, and you'd like to get home before midnight, if you live in places like Santa Monica, or Ventura, San Bernadino. It's always a comical TV shot to catch cars leaving the parking lot in the 7th inning, but there's a reason for many leaving early -- especially the season ticket holders, many of which might have to drive a long distance.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Apr 11, 2007 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've been
to dozens of games at Dodger Stadium and it is without question one of the best facilities in MLB.  STILL.

I've never had any of the parking/ticket issues mentioned here and my history of going there dates back to the mid-1960s.

There is nothing inherently wrong with the parking/freeway access to Dodger Stadium. If you plan ahead, it is an easy ballpark to get to, and there ARE other routes to get there other than Stadium Way.

There is close to ZERO chance a new ballpark would be built downtown near Staples Center.  The lack of available land (a baseball stadium takes 3-4 times the amount of land that a basketball arena does) and the astronomical cost makes this idea completely unworkable.

To say that this thread is overblown and hysterical is a real understatement.

They also had problems with parking/long lines that same night at Chase Field and nobody is calling for it to be replaced or suggesting that the problem is any more than an aberration.

Just because of snafus on an Opening Night where the Dodgers not only had a capacity crowd of 56,000 fans that actually showed up at the game is not an indication that Dodger Stadium or it's location are inherently flawed.  40+ years of history have proven otherwise.

by jazzman56 on Apr 11, 2007 2:45 PM CDT reply actions  

I think you've missed the satire,
Jazzman....or, you might want to go to the LA Times and read all the stories from Opening Day, and go to a web site that "observes" the LA Media -- laobserved.com. That's where the hysteria comes from, I'm just reflecting the many articles I read.

I was bemused by all the trouble that's happening at a 42 year old venue -- one that has worked pretty well, until somebody has decided to 'improve' it.

I've attended MANY games in the Ravine and have not had problems -- however, the bulk of my games have come during the O'Malley ownership. I've gone to a handful of games in the past 4 years. I still didn't have any problems.

I've stated elsewhere there's nothing wrong with Dodger Stadium -- it's Bill Plaschke of the Times that described the venue as "aging." My earlier post regarding the other California baseball venues cited that Dodger Stadium is the ONLY facility that doesn't need replacing. It's in fine shape and could be the home of the Dodgers for another 40 years.

But, you may have missed the articles that speculated that McCourt's goal is to get a new ballpark, in Downtown LA. That downtown is undergoing changes -- LA officials have seen what grew up around Petco Park in SD, and some Los Angeles legislators have floated the idea of a new ball park near the Staples Center -- one that McCourt would love to accept, since he wouldn't have much to pay into it -- and he could sell the Chavez Ravine land for billions, if he wanted. I suggest you go back in the archives of the Times, you'll find the articles.

Trust me, land was grabbed in downtown SD for Petco and the same could happen in LA. It's a bit naive to think that couldn't happen. The chances are certainly NOT "zero."

And, the idea of a football stadium replacing Dodger Stadium has been in the LA papers many times over the past 2 years, especially since McCourt bought the team.  When that idea was floated, suddenly both the operators of the Rose Bowl and the Coliseum decided they'd better not be left behind -- and they both proposed major renovations to their 'aging' facilities, ala Soldier Field, to attract a NFL franchise.

Dodger Stadium will be replaced, even though it doesn't need to be. Just wait and watch.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Apr 11, 2007 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

LA and Olympics
Of course if LA gets the Olympics, this may represent an "opportunity" for a new Stadium for somebody in LA.  And I hope to heck its LA not Chicago that gets the US bid.

by frustratedfan on Apr 13, 2007 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

By comparison
angels stadium is heaven. Someimes being a suburb stadium is nice.
One of Us!One Of Us!

by HerrProf on Apr 11, 2007 4:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Day 2 Was No Better
I went to last night's game at Dodger Stadium, and it was just as awful as opening day. I should caution that I have always despised the Dodgers and their overrated concrete tomb of a stadium they stole from the denizens of Chavez Ravine, but my hatred has really intensified over the last few years (since the McCourt era began).  The stadium is not quaint; there's nary an empty spot inside that hasn't been covered in advertising (it reminds me of 'Major League 2', where Corbin Bernsen bought the team but didn't have the money to cover operating expenses). The unceremonial dumping of radio announcer Ross Porter should have warned Dodger fans that the McCourts don't respect you or tradition, but if the latest debacle hasn't awakened them, they're hopeless.

As for the game, my friend has season tickets, which come with a preferred parking pass.  We entered through the usual location and were shocked to see the sea of yellow-shirted employees running around aimlessly; obviously, the McCourts are trying to get organized, but they are failing miserably.  The season ticket lots have switched from numbers to letters, and we had no clue where to go.  We were told to go straight by one employee but from that point it was anybody's guess.  We were forced to go into a one-way loop around the stadium that cost us at least 20 minutes of time, leading to our arrival in the 2nd inning. Inside, the stadium has developed a split-personality.  The seats have all gone back to the original pastel colors and along with last year's removal of player names, the McCourts have been trying to restore a sense of Dodger tradition.  This nice idea has been muted by eye-boggling advertisements, more neon than a busy Tokyo intersection and the replacement of the classic Dodger organ with loud rock music.  It makes for a baffling game experience; in my mind, they should go one way or the other, because I don't think they're making anyone happy with the current plan.  

Finally, the concessions plain suck. In the fifth inning, I finally went for some food, and there were three people in front of me at the Dodger Dog stand.  It took me over 15 minutes to get my food! Not only that, but they were sold out of the regular Dodger Dogs, so I had to pay extra for a "Super Dodger Dog".  Their credit card system was broken down, too, so I was lucky to have cash on me.  I asked the cashier what the slowdown was, and she blamed the issues on Levy, the 2nd year concessions company.  She said that when they took over the business, everything, including employee morale, went straight downhill.  Based on my experiences there over the last two seasons, I heartily concur.

As much as I hate the Dodgers, I've been going to the stadium since the 70s, and it was always an okay experience (especially when they lost).  Unfortunately, whatever charm the stadium once held for me is long gone, so I only go to games when someone offers me a free ticket.  I can't imagine paying for the experience, unless you're the type who enjoys the whole S&M thing.

by TMOX on Apr 11, 2007 4:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Credit Cards
IMHO, I go in expecting that no concession stand has a credit card setup - I think it's just better that way, it takes long enough as it is to get your food.

EXCEPTION - a McDonalds style swipe/touch system where you are instantly approved with no need for signature or the cashier dialing in your purchase.

Go Nebraska Football!

by sanantonecub on Apr 11, 2007 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

they added speedpass to shea
and the lines do seem to run faster.
One of Us!One Of Us!

by HerrProf on Apr 12, 2007 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

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