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Sweep!

As the dark clouds gathered over Wrigley Field this afternoon, I kept yelling out, "Swing!" at just about every batter, Cub or Rockie, from the 8th inning on.

Worked like a charm. About ten minutes after the last out, the skies opened up for the second afternoon in a row, but the rain held off for the important event of the day, the Cubs' sixth straight win, 6-4 over the Rockies, and they have their first consecutive series sweeps since April, 2004.

Remember those heady days? When the Cubs were supposed to be rushing head-on into a championship season?

Well, we all know what happened then. And it's far too early -- and with, of all people, Damian Miller hitting a three-run walkoff to give Milwaukee a sweep of Houston, the Cubs remain seven and a half games out of first place -- to think that way in 2007, especially since they still need one more win to get back to the .500 mark for the first time since May 10 (16-16).

But the Cubs are now 16-8 in their last 24 games and in the last six, have looked, really and truly, like a team clicking at last on all cylinders, a team that, when one guy has to sit out and rest an injured knee (Aramis Ramirez, just getting a day off, which gives him two full days to rest with the off day tomorrow) and others taking 0-fers (new hero Alfonso Soriano, not so heroic today), others step up.

Remember I said in this morning's recap how much I'm getting to like Mark DeRosa and his great approach to the game, how he gets the absolute most of his abilities, how he does anything and everything needed to win? He did it again today, starting at 3B for Aramis, playing good defense, and smacking a three-run homer and a double. There aren't too many teams today that have a "supersub", a guy who plays almost every day at several positions, but DeRosa could and should be that guy. 2B, 3B, RF -- who knows, maybe even SS? -- I like the way he plays the game, he is fast becoming one of my favorites.

Despite the sunshine that kissed most of the afternoon, most everyone knew the rain was coming which is why I was a little nervous at the nine walks that were issued today (five by Rockies pitchers, four by Cubs pitchers), slowing down the pace, although the eventual 2:42 game time wasn't that slow, it felt slow. And even when Billy Petrick, making his major league debut, gave up a two-run HR to Garrett Atkins in the 8th, cutting the lead to 6-4, you just had the feeling that the Cubs were going to win anyway. Suddenly, the vulnerable bullpen has done a lockdown job (at least since the memorable meltdown of Monday night). Today, it was Carlos Marmol's turn to get his first major league save, and he did it efficiently, 13 pitches (nine strikes). I have long felt that Marmol, if he can harness his control, could be a lights-out closer, as he consistently throws in the 94-95 MPH range. With this save, perhaps Lou will try him in that role while Ryan Dempster is on the DL.

I liked what I saw of Petrick -- big moose of a guy, just turned 23, 6-6, throws 94+, and made only one mistake, the HR to Atkins after a two-strike walk to Kaz Matsui, and that might have been thanks to plate umpire Dan Iassogna, whose strike zone was all over the place today; at least it was inconsistent for both teams.

Carlos Zambrano wasn't as good as he was in his last couple of starts, throwing only six innings and 107 pitches in the sticky, humid air; he did allow only two hits (and two walks) through five innings, bailing himself out of one of them with a slick 1-6-3 DP, and then got into trouble in the 6th, partly by his own inability to field Cory Sullivan's bunt quickly enough. A 27-pitch inning resulted in two runs on a pop-fly single, and that was it for Z; he was lifted for Jacque Jones, perhaps making his final appearance in a Cub uniform, if Jim Hendry can, at last, figure out some sort of deal for him on tomorrow's off-day. Jones bounced out meekly to first base.

And so, on Friday begins the biggest series the Cubs have played since September, 2004, and I don't think it's overhyping a June series against your division leader to say so. The Brewers are a good team. They're on a 90+ victory pace. I'd love to say the Cubs will sweep them, but that's a tough, tough thing to do to any team, even a struggling team like the White Sox, or a team like the Rockies that was playing well until they hit Toronto last weekend. The one factor that does give some hope that the Cubs can, at the very least, win the series (yes, I know, cutting a 7.5 game deficit to 6.5 isn't great, but there IS still half a season remaining) is that the Brewers are not a good road team (16-19, compared to 30-13 at Miller Park). The Cubs, until this week, hadn't been good at home, but now look like they actually know how to play to win at Wrigley Field.

Note: the Monday, July 16 game vs. the Giants has been changed to a 6:05 CT start, and will be carried on ESPN, good news for those of you outside Chicago, since that was to be a WCIU-only date.

Till tomorrow. Should be a terrific series this weekend. Enjoy the off day.

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Long time reader....first comment for AL
Al, thanks for giving all of of such an informative and detailed forum to share our thoughts, annoyances...and yes...dreams.  Your day in- day out following of this team and writing paragraph after paragraph even after a long Cub win or loss is truly commendable.  Especially, after visiting other blogs on the SB Nation sites, I am VERY thankful you are the moderating for my beloved Cubs.  I know a lot of people have told you these same things and you should consider yourself a real credit to the "vast internet blogosphere."  I have passed out your website information to every Cub fan at my firm.

Your website is literally 5x more truthful and useful to me than anything on Cubs.com or espn etc etc

I will have many many more posts during the rest of this sites existance but I just wanted to get that off of my chest considering I have read this site for over two years. Well done my friend, well done.

by Beau Believes Esq on Jun 27, 2007 5:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Thank you.
Much appreciated. And isn't it even better to read about the Cubs when they're winning?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 27, 2007 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its almost like the morning of opening day....
Every morning at work.  Your site and nights wrap-up are the first thing I read when I gasp for air around 10am.  When it is a winning recap I can literally feel my cheeks beginning to hurth from smiling for the entire read.  I am sure it is no secret that the "winning recaps" are 10x easier to write then the loses.

How in the world to your bring yourself to type these up after a long night in the bleachers?  Is it the love or knowing that you have so many out there like me that look so forward to your recaps?

by Beau Believes Esq on Jun 27, 2007 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's both, actually.
I used to try to write at night but that was too hard... waiting till morning gives a little perspective, plus time to gather my thoughts.

Glad you and your colleagues enjoy the site!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 27, 2007 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Marmol
was upset at Lou for pulling him the other day. Today he showed everyone why he feels he can close.

One thing about Lou is that he expects the players to bring 100% every day. Apparently Marmol and some others are getting the message.

Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jun 27, 2007 5:46 PM CDT reply actions  

You can definitely...
... feel Lou's stamp coming out on this club. And I like it. And those who can't hack it are already gone or finding reduced playing time.

Yet another reason I like DeRosa. He seems like Lou's type of player.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 27, 2007 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

DeRosa has come a long way
seemingly overpaid and for too long a contract last offseason, DeRosa started out of the gate rather slow and even whined a little regarding all of the 'day games'.  However, props to DeRosa for really making him (so far) look like a great deal for Hendry.  H's done pretty much everything lately-and what a relief to see we have an absolutely viable option to relieve Ramirez at 3rd (the guy's a cat there).  He's been awesome lately and really is fun to watch....and certainly worth the signing thus far.

by LuisSalazar on Jun 27, 2007 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

The thing I like about DeRosa
is he appears to be a guy who can take a leadership role with the club.  Did you see him leading the charge on the field when the Cubs won the game in the 9th the other day?  It's nice for a veteran to show that kind of enthusiasm.  

He seems to have a real clue as to what he is doing, whether he is playing RF, 2B or 3B and he plays them all well.  His bat will cool off eventually, but I like what he has shown.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Jun 27, 2007 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

One more thought on DeRosa
he is reminding me a bit of what Karros did for the 03 club.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Jun 27, 2007 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

BINGO!!
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 28, 2007 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Six in a row baby!
Let's get above .500 by the end of the weekend!!

Good:
Zambrano: 6 innings, 5 hits, 2 ER, 8 K's
Fontenot: 3 for 4, 2 runs, 1 RBI
Derosa: 7 for 16 with 7 RBI in last 4 games

Not as good:
Petrick: Got knocked around a bit. Welcome to the bigs kid!

Jacque Jones: 12 at bats since June 15? At this point do him a favor and just release him!

by Willgly on Jun 27, 2007 5:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Petrick...
... looked OK, except for the HR. He's got a live arm, and is a big dude (6-6). He's got a shot at being a decent ML reliever, I think.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 27, 2007 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.
Although, the whole time I kept thinking that he was Jason Dubois trying to get back to the bigs by picking up pitching ala Rick Ankiel.  Dubois and Petrick look like they could be related!

by Beau Believes Esq on Jun 27, 2007 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

if petrick
can hang around Z and Wuertz for a while and learn a good, hard slider, he could be a devestating bullpen guy...
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 27, 2007 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Other than the pitch to Atkins
I thought Petrick looked quite impressive.  He was throwing hard with movement and hitting corners.

That is the difference between AA and the majors, though.  He made a mistake to Atkins and Atkins made him pay.  In the SL, he'd have probably gotten away with that pitch.

It's too bad, because his stat line will look like he pitched badly, but he didn't.  But he has to learn not to make mistakes like that or he won't be able to stick here.

by Josh Timmers on Jun 27, 2007 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

He did
look good. I wish Lou would've pulled him after the first inning, might have been a nice confidence booster. Guess that's what happens when you have to keep Jones on the roster and have a short bullpen.

by jazzypete on Jun 27, 2007 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Remember when Todd Wellenmeyer came up
I think he struck out the side in Milwaukee in extra innings. However, no indicator of greatness.

You never know what you'll get out of a young player. Just gotta wait and see. Petrick's got a long way to go.

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by SackMan on Jun 28, 2007 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

The off day is good....
...Give everybody a needed rest, especially the bullpen. Hopefully, the momentum remains. I like that Hill pitches Friday. He's already got the poise of a ten year veteran out there and keep thenmin the game if it takes the bats a while to wake up. Someone needs to find Fontenot a pick up game to play in tomorrow to keep him on track. The Brewers' starter on Friday has had a good first two starts, but let's see how he does in front of a raucous Wrigley crowd.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jun 27, 2007 5:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Gallardo...
...is rather impressive.

He led the minors in strikeouts last year at age 20.
He was leading the minors again this year at 21 before his callup.

He's not a huge velocity guy (topped out at 94 when I saw him), but the kid really knows how to pitch.

Good fastball, good curve, GREAT changeup.  Didn't get rattled when he got in jams, either.

by NTNgod on Jun 27, 2007 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gallardo vs. current Cubs
At Iowa:
Fontentot was 0-5, 1BB, 1SO this year
Pagan was 0-6, 2SO
Hill was 0-3, 1SO

by NTNgod on Jun 28, 2007 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Road Schedule
For the remainder of the season, the Cubs play only 1 series (AZ) against a team over .500 currently. There is no reason to fear Milwaukee. We have our fate in our own hands.

Meanwhile we should see the other wild card teams playing amongst themselves which should prevent any runaway records.

Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jun 27, 2007 6:02 PM CDT reply actions  

we already
played them
"You're fired." - Dallas Green to Billy Connors while Billy was staying in the hospital.

by jdoolsiu on Jun 27, 2007 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

and
we have 2 series left against arizona

by anormal on Jun 27, 2007 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Take a deep breath
ROAD SERIES.....ONLY 1.
Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jun 27, 2007 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

but we're worse at home so far.
besides, what's the difference really. a series is a series. we do have a much better end of september schedule than milwaukee though....

by anormal on Jun 27, 2007 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look
All I said was that we'll be playing only one away series against a team over .500. You obviously misread my comments. I do it all the time. Just please stop trying to justify your mistake and let's move on.
Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jun 27, 2007 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

what?
yes, of course, i had not realized that you were only refering to road games. i was just responding to that by saying that the home games are the real challenge because the cubs have not played as well at home. - though we seem to be getting better lately

i spent some time looking at the schedule and saw that we have a more favorable september than the brewers. i thought i would mention it. i'm just discussing baseball. what is it you think i am trying to justify?

by anormal on Jun 28, 2007 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

See Subject Line
We only have one Road Series left against a team above .500 which is AZ.

All in all a favorable road schedule remaining.  We need to keep the Mo going on the road and now at home!

Go Cubs Go

The Cubs Are On Their Way!!

by DenverCub on Jun 27, 2007 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great sweep
for the Cubs and their fans. Six in a row. Let's keep it going.

I will be keeping track of the NBA draft on the day off.

Men who whine are so unattractive. This place is full of them.

by sue369 on Jun 27, 2007 6:05 PM CDT reply actions  

nope
get spencer hawes, he seems legit. Kobe would cost too much. Loul and Gordon is too much to give up, IMO
If Jesus went to college these days, he would go to Notre Dame

by NDcubsfan on Jun 27, 2007 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not a
Kobe fan at all. I hope they get Hawes too.
Men who whine are so unattractive. This place is full of them.

by sue369 on Jun 27, 2007 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

id rather see
Noah get picked. his energy off the bench would be a huge lift , ala tryus's last year

by Kchance on Jun 28, 2007 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Al--
You're right; the first three innings seemed interminable, but when I looked at the clock--here in the air-conditioned comfort of my house--it was but 2.25 or so CDST after three innings.

As I had just returned from the best long weekend of my life in southeastern Montana and working as an interpreter-docent at Little Bighorn Nat'l Monument, sleep eventually got the best of me--but not until I was pretty sure of a Cubs' win.

And they did!  It's now time to mow down Milwaukee!  Sweep, sweep!

LRRF

"One of the worst writers on this board."

by Littlerock Rynofan on Jun 27, 2007 6:07 PM CDT reply actions  

6 in a row
almost feels like a dream...let's go get the brewers right now!
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 27, 2007 6:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Pretty sure of a Cubs' win?
You've got to get out of the wilderness more often.
Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jun 27, 2007 6:10 PM CDT reply actions  

I've been a Cubs' fan too long ...
To be certain of anything.  I'm still suspicious enough to believe that should I watch an entire Cubs' game, they'll end up losing.
"One of the worst writers on this board."

by Littlerock Rynofan on Jun 27, 2007 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Given the bullpen's early record
your suspicions were justified all too often. But fear not, another superstition is on the way, hopefully a positive one.
Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jun 27, 2007 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

The wild card picture
is way to blurry. We are closer in the WC but with more teams ahead of us. The WC winner will come from the West. I think we have a better chance of catching the Brewers than one of the top two teams in the West. And NL Central Champs sounds better anyway.
Everybody on the count of three kick karma in the ass, maybe that will wake her up.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Jun 27, 2007 6:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Wild Card, Master Card, Visa Vard.....
...whatever it takes to get into the playoffs. I wouldn't rule out a wild card slot. Right now, the Cubs are closer to that than they are the  Brewers.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jun 27, 2007 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

The thing about the West teams, though
Is that they will beat up on each other.  It is hard for me to not scoreboard watch, but the fact is, it is far more important for the Cubs to keep winning and be above .500 (hopefully well above) by the All-Star break.  

I'm hoping this isn't an aberration, that what we saw in the beginning of the year was a hangover from the "Dusty culture."  I'm hoping that what we have seen the past six games (and to a lesser extent, the month of June in general), is Lou Piniella's presence and philosophy making itself shown on the field.  

If that's the case, the Cubs will be in the mix come September.  Whether they have enough to prevail is another question entirely.

by SuperContext on Jun 28, 2007 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well....
....the WC is where unbalanced scheduling helps us - we have more games against the NL Central teams (such as the Pirates, Reds, and Houston), all of whom are struggling, whereas our NL East and NL West WC competition will be playing each other.

That said, far too early to scoreboard or standings watch - much more important to keep our eye on our own game, and catch the ball, hit the ball, and win our own games.

Damn would another sweep feel good right now....

by Chadnudj on Jun 27, 2007 6:37 PM CDT reply actions  

With the Cubs...
it's never to early to scoreboard watch, I think. Realistically, the season ends pretty early so I start freaking out as soon as possible. Once they are completely out of it, it's time to scoreboard watch but it's pointless by then.
"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Jun 27, 2007 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

what a streak...
fontenot is really riding this hot streak going 5-5 monday and keeping his hit streak alive, and hitting 408...im really liking his talent right now on both sides of the ball...this is what the cubs need

by kid burris on Jun 27, 2007 6:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Go figure
6 game winning streak with no Barrett.....

Things are starting to fall into place.  This team is better than one under .500.  They've underscored their opponents by 31 runs as of today...

SORIANO! YESSSSSSSS! JIMBO!!!

by CubFaninCA on Jun 27, 2007 7:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Winning streaks
sure do feel good. I'm finally starting to feel some confidence about this team. I think that win Monday night was a huge turning point for this team. It was a game they most certainly would have lost earlier in the season. Regarding Fontenot, I know he's not this good but who cares? He's this good right now and I'm loving it!

by qccub on Jun 27, 2007 7:57 PM CDT reply actions  

It feels like Piniella is finally
weaning this organization from its losing culture. Thanks Lou! Players that get the job done instead of homers are getting the playing time and hustle is becoming a regular occurance. It felt great realizing that the Cubs swept two series. As an irrational Cub fan who necessarily has little concept of reality, I'm hoping for a 9 game winning streak and series wins through the All-Star break. Kool-aid anyone?

by teacher tom on Jun 27, 2007 8:01 PM CDT reply actions  

7/16/07 game
Wait.  The Giants are playing at Wrigley on ESPN?  Dusty Baker HAS to be there for that, doesn't he?  I don't know who'd get booed louder at this point, Jacque Jones or Dusty Baker.  Maybe it's Neifi.
Neifi, we hardly knew ye.

by Krande on Jun 27, 2007 8:19 PM CDT reply actions  

LO
"He's overmanaging me, just in case you guys want to hear that. Lou overmanaged Ozzie today..." - Ozzie Guillen

by NittanyCub on Jun 27, 2007 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

L
"He's overmanaging me, just in case you guys want to hear that. Lou overmanaged Ozzie today..." - Ozzie Guillen

by NittanyCub on Jun 27, 2007 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Coincodence???.....
If I'm not mistaken, we haven't lost a game since Lou's quote about going to church, and putting a little extra in the collection plate......

Gosh, it's so good to see some good fundamental baseball.

"I think we all need to go to church and put more in the (collection) box"......Lou Piniella on 6/21/2007

by deadcatbounce on Jun 27, 2007 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

While I wouldn't be
so profane as to suggest the gods can be bought. Perhaps it's not too much to ask if we can rent them through October.
Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jun 27, 2007 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

nefi and dusty will b too busy to get bood
they will b too busy playing checkers in the anouncers box as always

by ryan797 on Jun 27, 2007 8:51 PM CDT reply actions  

didn't leyland say
 neifi was the worst player he's ever managed?
If Jesus went to college these days, he would go to Notre Dame

by NDcubsfan on Jun 27, 2007 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Leyland, talking about Neifi
Q: What did you see in Neifi that we fans and media don't?

A: Well that's a good question because he played terrible. And what had happened was we got reports from our scouts, and I had known him from the past. We were kind of in a panic situation. We had lost Polly and we needed someone who could come in and play second, and play shortstop as well because Carlos needed some time off. And up to this point it looks like we made a mistake.

So Neifi's going to have to prove us wrong this spring because has not been a good acquisition up to this point.

But that was my fault, and the scouts. And I like said we had to have somebody. And I hope Neifi'll prove us wrong. I think he'll be much better than what he showed last year because he showed absolutely nothing when he came over.

In all honesty, this may be my favorite quote from any manager ever.

by ClosingTime on Jun 28, 2007 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

hilarious
If Jesus went to college these days, he would go to Notre Dame

by NDcubsfan on Jun 28, 2007 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jim leyland is now my hero
When is the last time you heard this kind of honesty out of anybody in baseball? (well maybe Ozzie...but I never understand what the hell he is saying)
To Matt Murton - the biggest, baddest, hairiest, most testosterone filled S.O.B to ever put on a cubs uniform

by cubsirishkillme on Jun 28, 2007 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Neifi though
did prove something as he did make the team and is still on it, as opposed to, say, Todd Walker, who is nowehere.

by NO100 on Jun 28, 2007 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Warning: AL Talk
New York lost two straight to Baltimore (lmao!)

11 games behind Boston, solidly in third place.  Only three games separate Baltimore and Tampa Bay from New York.

3-7 in the last 10, 16-25 on the road.  After this series, they play 10 games before the break against Oakland, Minnesota, and the Angels.  Last place at the all star break?  Quite possible.

8.5 away from the Wild Card... but only 5 away from topping the Fecal League!

Oh, and the savior the Rocket?  4 games, yet only 17.2 innings with a 5.09 ERA and 3 HR's.

Ballgame over!  Yankees Lose!  Theeeeeeee Yankees Lose!

Go Nebraska Football!

by sanantonecub on Jun 27, 2007 9:29 PM CDT reply actions  

DeRosa
Nice to see you've hopped on the DeRosa fan club.  As I've been saying for a while now, he's as valuable as any Cub.  He gives you above average defense at multiple positions and quality at bats.  And as you point out, he's all about winning.  Great signing by Hendry.

by cubsbak on Jun 27, 2007 9:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Barrett
Not surprising at all to me the Cubs are playing their best ball of the season now that he's gone.  Hopefully this convinces naysayers out there that Sweet Lou did not trade Barrett because he was calling it quits on this season.  Trading Barrett was a necessary move for the Cubs to improve THIS season as well as down the road.  Sweet Lou should be applauded for being bold and wise enough to make the trade.  

by cubsbak on Jun 27, 2007 9:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Technically, Lou didn't make the trade
But I do agree that there is little doubt that he was the driving force behind getting it done.

by SuperContext on Jun 28, 2007 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

No way
Hendry trades away his "find" if Sweet Lou doesn't insist on it.  That's why I'm giving Sweet Lou the credit.

by cubsbak on Jun 28, 2007 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

No way?
No way Hendry trades away his "find" without Lou?  No way he trades the guy who fought one pitcher, had a screaming match with another pitcher in the dugout, and was miserably under performing in a free agent year?

Yeah.  Right.

by Kornchex on Jun 28, 2007 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Disagree
Although it's become more public, Barrett was terrible with pitchers long before this season.  It's been well documented that nobody wanted to throw to the guy.  Sure he wasn't hitting, but you don't trade a guy just because he slumps for a couple of months.  And Hendry's fondness for Barrett goes way back.  No, I think it's clear that Sweet Lou was the driving force behind the trade.  That's why I'm giving him all the credit.

by cubsbak on Jun 28, 2007 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good assessment
Hendry has had a man crush on Barrett going back years.  As a GM, you need to stay objective, and his biggest mistake was not recognizing Barrett's defensive liabilities when he had clues going back 2-3 years.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Jun 28, 2007 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Super sub Derosa..
Speaking of Super-Subs, does anyone remember Al Spangler or Henry Cotto?  Spangler had a body like Piniella, but man, can he hit!
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Jun 27, 2007 10:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Henry Cotto
Wow! I haven't seen that name printed in years.
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by SackMan on Jun 27, 2007 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Al Spangler
could hit.

But  - that was all.

His fat ass sure couldn't run!

Henry Cotto was one of my favorite lesser known Cubs that caught on with the Yankees -

As was Miguel Cairo, who has had a very solid career.

Is it too early to be out of it, or too early to be this far behind?

by TheEman on Jun 28, 2007 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Was it Cotto
that practically ran up the outfield wall to try and get Garvey's home run at Jack Murphy in 1984?
"5-8-8, 2-3-hundred, Empire!"

by SyneRandberg on Jun 28, 2007 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Man, that seems like yesterday.
Ahh, memories.  Well, it's back into therapy for me.
"5-8-8, 2-3-hundred, Empire!"

by SyneRandberg on Jun 28, 2007 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was raining so hard.
It was windy too, so my new Cubs umbrella was pretty  pointless. I got drenched anyway. It was fun to go to the game. I was going to sit in the bleachers with you Al and surprise you, but I was cheap and sat UD reserved area instead. :)
"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Jun 27, 2007 10:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Sorry you got drenched!
Glad you enjoyed the game. Stop by the bleachers anytime!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 28, 2007 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sweet Lou
I remain convinced that Sweet Lou is one of the best things to ever happen to the Chicago Cubs.  You are right that slowly but surely he's putting his stamp on this team.  The guy is a winner.

by cubsbak on Jun 27, 2007 10:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Re: Sweet Lou
I totally agree 100 percent....End of story.
"I think we all need to go to church and put more in the (collection) box"......Lou Piniella on 6/21/2007

by deadcatbounce on Jun 27, 2007 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

All this love for Lou
Kinda reminds me of that fella back in '03...what was his name agin, Baker?

by JFCubFan on Jun 27, 2007 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL
That's a low blow....sigh....but, probably a good point.
"I think we all need to go to church and put more in the (collection) box"......Lou Piniella on 6/21/2007

by deadcatbounce on Jun 28, 2007 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

For those of you who have been harping
on this subject for months/weeks like I have... here's a good write up on Hendry's incredible ability to wait until a player has completely lost all trade value... and then deal him:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=426

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by SackMan on Jun 27, 2007 10:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Nate Silver...
...expands on his diagnosis of Cubs shortcomings in his chat on BP. The money quote: "Bring Cedeno, Soto and Eric Patterson up, and you're adding perhaps a quarter of a run to the offensive output at no cost at all."
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Jun 28, 2007 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Callups
I just don't thing Patterson is ready yet. His defense seems well below par. Let him continue to play every day. I don't know who he'd replace.

No doubt Cedeno is on fire and all the things he was doing wrong early on seem to have been overcome. But again, who does he replace? If Izturis is moved, I'd think he'd be the first one up. If not, he might replace Izzy when he leaves after this year.

I understand Soto was just getting over an injury when Hill was called up so he wasn't available. And right now the mix of Hill and Bowen seem to have settled down the pitching staff. Perhaps Soto's sudden emergence as an offensive force still hasn't convinced management but barring a complete breakdown, I could see him starting next year.

Bottom line is that Lou seems very comfortable with his team right now until Hendry finds some was to dump the unholy three.

Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jun 28, 2007 5:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

We've found chemistry with Hill and Bowen
I wouldn't want to disrupt that.

I say, let Soto continue to develop this year, then figure him into the plans for '08.

If an injury in '07 forces his call-up... then he'll get his shot.

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by SackMan on Jun 28, 2007 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

They might deal Izzy before the deadline
That would open a spot for Cedeno.

But, there's a dilemma here: does Cedeno need to play everyday in order to continue development and succeed? Or can he be part of a rotation? Plus, his defense is atrocious.

We've hit lightning in a bottle with Fontenot... and Theriot isn't going anywhwere.  

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by SackMan on Jun 28, 2007 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

i wouldn't mind seeing cedeno
instead of izturis. maybe soto can take jones' roster spot.
I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 28, 2007 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

No thanks
I wonder if Nate Silver has ever seen any of those guys play.  He needs to get his nose out of the stat book.

by cubsbak on Jun 28, 2007 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

One thing Silver is neglecting..
is that playing Cedeno or Patterson means benching either Fontenot or DeRosa (or both).   Fontenot was putting up even better numbers than Patterson, and similar numbers to Cedeno, when he was in AAA this year.  And DeRosa has been pretty productive as well.  So bringing those guys up (even if they're productive) isn't necessarily improving the offense.

I don't think it was a very well thought out statement by Silver.

by SouthernCub on Jun 28, 2007 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's also
neglecting the fact that neither of those guys can play a lick of defense and they play positions where good defense is essential.  But I guess that kind of information doesn't show up in the stat book so it doesn't matter.

by cubsbak on Jun 28, 2007 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

In fairness...
he didn't say anything at all about defense.  He just said that add runs.  Hedidn't say they wouldn't give them back. :)

by SouthernCub on Jun 28, 2007 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

it does when you look at feilding %
And see that Cedeno was the 3rd worst SS in the majors last year, or that he's currently got 7 errors in 40 games at Iowa. And Patteron's got 8 errors in 74.
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by SackMan on Jun 28, 2007 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's only...
...a professional baseball writer who lives in Chicago. No, I'm sure he hasn't seen these guys play. Yes, I'm sure you know more than he does... excuse me while I go roll my eyes somewhere.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Jun 28, 2007 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow
A professional baseball writer who lives in Chicago.  I had no idea.  In that case I change my mind.  It's a great idea to bring up two middle infielders who can't play a lick of defense because they've been putting up offensive numbers in AAA.  I mean, if a professional baseball writer who lives in Chicago says to do it that's good enough for me. </end sarcasm>

by cubsbak on Jun 28, 2007 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Some funny perspective:
I just heard the win today by the KC Royals guaranteed their first winning month since July 2003.

FOUR YEARS WITHOUT A WINNING MONTH OF BASEBALL? WOW - we think we have it rough at times, but that is absolutely insane.

FOUR YEARS - absolutely incredible.

:)

"Me fail English? That's unpossible." Ralph Wiggum

by ilovepie on Jun 27, 2007 11:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Have you watched the Royals?
They are a really, really bad ball club.  I've quit going to the AAA games here in Omaha - they are unbearable.

Bad Defense, poor pitching, and quiet bats - that's a bad combination.

by Ihatethecards on Jun 28, 2007 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

This Cubs team recently
has been playing like a "team" finally. Blow a 5 run lead in the 9th, NBD, we'll get it back for you and win it. Getting early leads, clutch hitting, and can you believe it, a successful suicide squeeze? The bullpen has looked better, not strong yet, but getting there. The Iowa kids are a super spark on this team, I love it! The role players are playing their roles and producing. If D Lee gets his HR groove back, we are going to be VERY tough to beat. :)
"When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches."- Ron Santo

by BigJohnAZ on Jun 28, 2007 12:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Blanco
I have not been pleased with the news on Blanco lately.  Sounds like he might be out for a while, and possible out for the season.  With all the crying about Jones, Eyre, and Howry's contracts, isn't it time we started to look at this signing?  I think we overpaid for a back-up catcher who was pretty old to begin with.  And Koyie and Bowen have shown how easy it is to get competent catching and mediocre offense for much less $$.  Thoughts?
Defense wins championships. It also sweeps the White Sox, good start!

by 26.2cubfan on Jun 28, 2007 12:02 AM CDT reply actions  

They signed him to a 2 year deal
with an option for '09. He'd be 38 years old in '09.
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by SackMan on Jun 28, 2007 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was a bad signing...
when he was healthy.  It's a really bad signing now.  35 year old backup catchers aren't worth 2 year, $5.25 million deals.  He was/is scheduled to make $2.8 million next season to theoretically still be a backup catcher.

by SouthernCub on Jun 28, 2007 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

he was signed
to be maddux' personal catcher and he ended up devloping an excellent repoire with zambrano, so he made himself valuable to the club in that way. also, while his offense is less than ideal, henry blanco is among the finest defensive catchers in all of baseball. what he fails to do with the bat, it was figured he made up for with his glove.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 28, 2007 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

that should read
"rapport," not "repoire." excuse my ignorance...
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 28, 2007 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

In case you don't know...
The 2006 Cubs were 20 games BELOW .500 at the break last year.

20 GAMES BELOW!!!

Had they not given away easily seven or eight this year, the team would be at the top or VERY close to the division lead.

So, to put this all in perspective, there is improvement in the record.

It will take a while to shake the loser mentality - but I hope they have gotten a nice start on it.

Is it too early to be out of it, or too early to be this far behind?

by TheEman on Jun 28, 2007 12:04 AM CDT reply actions  

The trend is good
but let's not forget the recent series against Texas. Give it a month more of solid play and then we might be able to convince ourselves that we're not just peaking.
Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jun 28, 2007 5:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Angels just got swept by KC at home
There's a reason that this is a 162 game season, and there's a reason you play the game.  You can't let one series define a team.
Go Nebraska Football!

by sanantonecub on Jun 28, 2007 7:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think we are stuck with Jones
From rotoworld:

According to the Minneapolis Star Tribune, the Twins are no longer interested in acquiring Jacque Jones because the Cubs are unwilling to pay a large percentage of his remaining contract.
The newspaper reports that the Twins and Cubs were working on a deal before the Marlins stepped in, but likely won't resume talks even though the trade to Florida fell through. Jones played for the Twins from 1999-2005 before leaving as a free agent.
====

I think we are going to be stuck with him if Zell doesn't want us to pay for him and if no other team wants to pay for him. Hell, certainly someone would want him..I mean after all we traded away Neifi Perez!!

Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jun 28, 2007 8:50 AM CDT reply actions  

I think
Hendry should avoid making deals with Atlanta, Minnesota, and St Louis, as their GMs are so much smarter than he is that any deal they agreed to would be far in their favor, no matter how good it looked to him.

by jazzypete on Jun 28, 2007 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL
As long as they could get someone to take even a little more than the minimum salaries, I'd take a used infield rake in exchange.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 28, 2007 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kudos Cubbies
Six straight, that sure as hades qualifies as a hot streak.  

Kudos to the Cubbies!

by DrCrawdad on Jun 28, 2007 9:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Mike and Mike
this morning...Greenie was talking about running into Lou in Chicago this weekend...said Lou was a friend of the show and that Lou's sentiment was that he was very, very excited about how things were coming together, and that he felt tha the had all the pieces to put something really strong together for the second half.

Mike and Buster Olney then got into discussion about how the NL only has something like 5 teams that are 3-4 games over .500 (Dodgers, Pads, DBacks, Mets and Brewers)and that the NL was relatively wide open, that the Cubs were poised to make a run...

FWIW

I got a guy on the other line about some White Walls...I'll talk to you later

by HeyGundy on Jun 28, 2007 9:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Mike &Mike
Olney also said that if Big Z pitches the 2nd half like the last 3-4 starts, "the Cubs WILL make the playoffs". Does he know that Z only pitches every 5th day? I wouldn't get too excited just because a talking head speaks highly of our team.

by billybuck on Jun 28, 2007 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep
I remember in 2004 listing to the national media right up until the last week of the season practically guarantee the Cubs would win the wildcard.    

by cubsbak on Jun 28, 2007 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

And they should have.
It was massive bullpen failure that doomed the Cubs.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Jun 28, 2007 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Olney
doesn't impress me much at all.

I'm trying to be polite.  I think he's not very smart about baseball.  

His "The Last Night of the Yankee Dynasty" struck me as one of the worst baseball books ever that wasn't a ghost-written autobiography.  (OK, he's better than a ghost-writer.)  

by Josh Timmers on Jun 28, 2007 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think espn is feeding him exclusives
so he has more credibility as an on air talent. How often do you see a breaking headline as "Buster Olney reports.. " etc. I mean, gammons won't be along forever..
One of Us!One Of Us!

by HerrProf on Jun 29, 2007 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

super sub
Lou had a player who really was a valuable member of his Mariner teams that rivals DeRosa.  That was Mark McLemore. He did everything that DeRosa is doing now, but he really had no permanent position.  However, DeRosa is younger that Mark was then. If this team can solidify the SS position, they can compete with anyone in the NL.

by KedzieKid on Jun 28, 2007 9:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Soriano
I was thinking about all the talk about batting Soriano lower in the order to increase his RBIs.  However, once the 1st inning is over, it is unlikely he will lead off again over the course of a game.  This means he might have just the same number of chances of batting with men on base than if he was batting 3rd or 4th.  Does this make sense?
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Jun 28, 2007 10:07 AM CDT reply actions  

then why does he have so few rbis?
still, i like him where he's at. he's won me over.
I don't care about a world series, just be competitive thru September.

by buckmulligan on Jun 28, 2007 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not really
He's got an automatic out (the pitcher) hitting in front of him, which reduces his chances of hitting with men on base even after the first inning.  If he was batting 3rd or 4th he'd have (presumably) the hitters with the best on-base-percentages on the team hitting in front of him.

by cubsbak on Jun 28, 2007 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

My guess is
whomever bats after Cesar Izworthless.

by eamuscatuli1881 on Jun 28, 2007 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not likely
with both the pitcher and the lowest on base guys hitting 7/8. He would most likely be coming up with 2 outs which cuts down on opportunities to drive in runs w/ sac flies.

by billybuck on Jun 28, 2007 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

That makes sense.
Then they should flip Soriano and Lee.  Lee has the higher batting average and fewer homers.
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Jun 28, 2007 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

And if this...
...were a game of Stat-O-Matic, yup, great sense. And I'm still trying to figure out how these guys can make so much money and have so much talent and be so famous and yet have such fragile psyches, but for some reason Soriano doesn't seem capable of hitting anywhere but the leadoff spot.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Jun 28, 2007 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

lead off hitter
I have been trying to find somewhere that gives info regarding which spot in the order leads off the most other then the start of the game.  I would guess that the #1 spot does get a few more because of the pitcher hitting.  The numbers will be different in the AL vs. NL I would imagine.

by cozmotaylor on Jun 28, 2007 10:33 AM CDT reply actions  

If we sweep Milwaukee
that would be intense
If Jesus went to college these days, he would go to Notre Dame

by NDcubsfan on Jun 28, 2007 10:40 AM CDT reply actions  

If Jessica Alba accepted my dinner invitation
If I got a raise for my work performance "improvement" during Cubs season, and if my dog started crapping silver dollars...

that would ALSO be intense.

I got a guy on the other line about some White Walls...I'll talk to you later

by HeyGundy on Jun 28, 2007 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

that would be more than intense
i dont even know what that would be
If Jesus went to college these days, he would go to Notre Dame

by NDcubsfan on Jun 28, 2007 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

if you
like Alba, and who doesn't, check out this month's GC. That's intense.

by jazzypete on Jun 28, 2007 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just looking for 2/3
This isn't Sept 12th, if we take 2 of 3, we are still rolling. Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to see another sweep. We only need to gain 1 game per week and we're there.

Don't forget the W Sux are horrible and the Mile Highs just got sept by the Jays. Fortunately, we do play well against the Suds Heads. Should be very exciting!!!

"When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches."- Ron Santo

by BigJohnAZ on Jun 28, 2007 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Heading into Brewers series
Cubs will face a real tough customer in Yovany Gallardo.  Also a crackerjack young hitter in Ryan Braun - I got a chance to see a lot of both of these guys at the AAA level.  

The Cubs only play the Brew Crew six more times this year - a sweep puts us 4 1/2 back but we only pick up one game and go to 6 1/2 if we take two out of three.  Normally two out of three is a good thing but it's not in this case.  That having been said, let's go for nine in a row!

Make something idiot-proof and the world will build a better idiot

by mastrick on Jun 28, 2007 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

I still think
It's a good thing in this case. It's always a good thing to take 2 of 3 from your division leader and the team with the best record in baseball at one point recently.

It will put us a game over .500 and it will mark continued solid play over the Brewers this year.

Too early in the year to say 2 out of 3 is not a good thing. I'll take 6.5 out at the break, notwithstanding 7 winnable games vs. Wash and Pitt before the break.

I got a guy on the other line about some White Walls...I'll talk to you later

by HeyGundy on Jun 28, 2007 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Taking 2 out of 3...
would put us at .500 not a game over.

by Rogue 52 on Jun 28, 2007 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gallardo
is a great prospect.  I look forward to watching him and Tim Lincecum battle it out in the future.

But that's what he is.  A prospect.  Look at how Lincecum has struggled at times this season.  It's rare that even a great pitching prospect steps into the rotation and dominates.  He's going to have some rough patches.

I'd much rather face Gallardo than Ben Sheets, for example.  But unfortunately, I think we're getting both.

by Josh Timmers on Jun 28, 2007 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dunno..
The Cubs don't usually fare too well against a guy they've never seen before. Let's hope the kid chokes.
Well, sometimes nothin is a real cool hand.

by wicubfan on Jun 28, 2007 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

IIRC
I believe it's also is first start on the road.  I think his previous starts have been in Milwaukee.

by eamuscatuli1881 on Jun 28, 2007 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Iowa Game Tonight..
Hi,
I am planning to go for my first Iowa Cubs games tonight to Des Moines. What are the best seats for the game -

Here are the options I found online:

Ticket Type:
===

  1. General Admission
  2. Reserved Grand Stand
  3. Club Box
  4. Field Box
Ticket Location:
====
  1. Best Seats
  2. Level 1 - Section C
  3. Level 1 - Section W
What would be the best combo from the above.

Thanks...

by cubsnlinux on Jun 28, 2007 11:39 AM CDT reply actions  

I just went wednesday
As far as the best deal i would say just the GA on the right side of the stadium because then you get the good view of the city and also the sun sets to your right.  But if you really want to get close I would say right side lower deck.  I really don't like having a screen between me and the game so I don't like sitting behind the plate area.  If you want to get a free tee-shirt/hotdog between innings I would say get the lower deck because there air guns don't get to the second deck, its only 3 extra dollars to sit in the lower deck.  Hope this helps.

by scuba4 on Jun 28, 2007 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Iowa Cubs
there really are not any bad seats there.  anything you get will get you close to the field

by cozmotaylor on Jun 28, 2007 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cubs trivia?
I was wondering if the Cubs had a MLB first against Colorado.  They had two pitchers get their first major league save in back-to-back games.  I know nothing earth shattering but I thought it was interesting.  

by rlpete on Jun 28, 2007 1:04 PM CDT reply actions  

more Nate Silver
After hearing the comment above about brining up Soto, Ronnie Cedano, and Eric Patterson being brought up I really have to question.  I just went to the Wednesday game of Iowa cubs vs Isotopes.  The final score was 14-8.  Iowa swept the Isotopes and in one game I think the score was 15-0.  Does this really sound like the competition that will be seen in the majors.  I watched Ronnie hit 2 singles and 2 doubles 4-6, yea thats great but the top speed the Isotopes pitcher was throwing was around 80mph.  Most pitches were closer to 75mph, this isn't the majors and I am afraid that these guys are not ready.  

As far a defense that something hard to gauge most the games I have seen nobody lays out to stop a fast grounder up the middle or a fly ball in the outfield.

On the whole its unlikely that they will be brought up for good reason(except Soto).  If they are then it means we are out of the race.

I still like Jones and I don't know that we would get anyone good for him.  Why does everyone hate Jones I know he's batting like .222 but so is  Theriot.  Is it because we are weak on pitching , if so I understand but I don't think we can get  Griffey from the Reds.

       

by scuba4 on Jun 28, 2007 1:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Hmmm...let's see on JJones
He's batting just over .200.

He's done poor with RISP

Strikes out frequently.

He has a minu-minus arm.

Is the fastest on the team AFTER Pie, Pagan, Soriano, Theriot, Fontenot, Lee, Marquis, Marmol,and Itzturis.

But other than that, he's not bad.
   

Is it too early to be out of it, or too early to be this far behind?

by TheEman on Jun 28, 2007 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

It should also be noted...
...that right field is a much less defensively challenging position than shortstop, and that Jones' main defensive liability is the one exposed the most in right field.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Jun 28, 2007 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

WTF IS THIS?
"If Jesus went to college these days, he would go to Notre Dame"
Is it too early to be out of it, or too early to be this far behind?

by TheEman on Jun 28, 2007 1:34 PM CDT reply actions  

I Don't Know,
But if that's true, they richly deserve one another.

by BlueSox on Jun 28, 2007 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Soriano..
The guy really is becomming quite good in left. What a bonus! I think the earlier miscues were largely due to the recovering hamstring problem. I was at the game when he took that ball off the vines and threw the guy out at second from here to Joliet. What a play! Now team are respecting his arm and not even attemting the extra base.

Pitching, as usual, will remain the key. As long as the starters don't implode I think we can compete in the weak division with a suspect pen.

I do like Marmol as closer but don't know if his time is now. I still may take a flyer on him on my fantasy team.

Nice to see a winner now and then after shelling out so many greenbacks to watch bad baseball. Go Cubs!

Well, sometimes nothin is a real cool hand.

by wicubfan on Jun 28, 2007 1:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Part of the reason
why defense is so hard to define statistically is because one can't know what would have happened if something didn't happen.

Sure, you can talk fielding percentage and zone rating, but you can't really talk how many runs Soriano saved by making that throw.  You can't determine how many less players attempted to go for the extra base because Soriano was in left.

He is turning into a good defensive left fielder and all one needs is thier own eyes to figure that out.  

by NO100 on Jun 28, 2007 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Winning the first game...
...is key.

I don't know about everyone else but if the Cubs take the first game. I believe the Brew Crew will begin feeling pressure. A pressure that IMHO will cause them to become unraveled.

With the Cubs taking game one in the Wrigley environment with the Cubs fans at their best and loudest. I see this Crew wilting.

The Cubs are playing really with nothing to lose right now.

I'm happy about the day off today for the Cubs. They can clear there head and rest. Then come in tomorrow and gun for the top spot.

6-01-2007 the Cubs begin to rise. They will never look back.

by Scott G F on Jun 28, 2007 2:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Wishful thinking
The Brewers have a well balanced team and an excellent manager. In addition, they are murder on LHP and we have both Hill and Marshall going. As long as we don't get swept, I can accept what happens.
Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jun 28, 2007 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Partially agree..
I don't see the Crew choking however I'm not sure if I agree about the left handed pitching. IIRC Hill has had 2 outstanding outings against them. I'd also rather have Cub killer Fielder facing a lefty unless his name is Eyre..
Well, sometimes nothin is a real cool hand.

by wicubfan on Jun 29, 2007 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hill is 1-1 vs. MIL this year
He had a great outing on April 6 at Miller Park...
(W, 7IP, 1H, 1R, 1HR, 6SO, 0BB)

...and a not-so great one on April 24 at Wrigley.
(L, 6.2IP, 6H, 4R, 2HR, 5SO, 3BB)

by NTNgod on Jun 29, 2007 2:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

To finish up on Hill...
When Hill got off to that great start in April, for most of the month, the Brewers were the only team to score off him.
(he had a couple of scoreless outings sandwiched in-between those two starts)

by NTNgod on Jun 29, 2007 2:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

my old memory..
must be failing me..
Well, sometimes nothin is a real cool hand.

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