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Today Was Not Yesterday

That's how Jim Memolo of WGN led his postgame recap as I heard it in the car going home after today's one-sided, dull, poorly-played (well, at least by the Cubs) 13-4 loss to the Brewers.

It got so bad that around the sixth inning, with the Cubs down 9-2, I thought that checking my email via my phone would be more interesting than the game.

And when I did, I found the following email from loyal BCB reader jessica, titled "This is Maddux's fault" (Warning! This is into tinfoil hat territory!):

Seriously. Greg has said he and Mike will share information on players other than those on their own team and of course he was Marshall's mentor and knows Hill. I would not be surprised if he told Mike whatever he thought would help. Blood is thicker than friendship and I have a feeling he was none too happy with the way the Cubs dealt with Barrett who he really does like. Not saying he dislikes the Cubs but all things being equal he is going to help Mike.

Oh well, I didn't think they had a chance against Sheets anyway.

("Mike", of course, being Greg's brother, Brewers pitching coach Mike Maddux).

Well, it made for a few minutes of amusing reading as we all sat relatively silent for most of the sun-kissed, 75-degree afternoon.

You could say the game was over on the very first pitch, which was booted by Mike Fontenot at SS. Now, of course, the Cubs could have recovered from that, but it seemed to set a tone for Brewer bats, which started off with three straight hits after the error, and never stopped all afternoon (they slammed out fifteen hits, including ten extra-base hits, capped by a Craig Counsell HR -- only his second of the season). 4-0 after half an inning didn't seem so bad, considering it was one run better than yesterday, and when the Cubs cut it to 4-2 after one, there was brief hope.

That was dashed in the 2nd, when three more runs scored, and Sean Marshall had to be yanked after his worst outing of the year. And after Fontenot's error, Lou played it like the coach of my son Mark's Park District team, where all the kids gather round the coach at the end of each batting inning and say, "Where am I playing this inning, coach?" He flipped Fontenot and Mark DeRosa, DeRosa moving to SS for his first time as a Cub (though he had played 137 games there before this year), and Fontenot to 2B. Didn't matter -- Fontenot let a ball get under his glove at 2B in the fifth inning, allowing another Brewer run to score.

Everyone hit -- Dave said, and I agree, that the Brewer lineup appears to be the best hitting lineup, top to bottom, in the National League -- the biggest hitter for Milwaukee was rookie 3B Ryan Braun, who had four hits, including a HR off Michael Wuertz in the 9th, three runs scored and four RBI. Despite not being called up till May 25, I'd say he's got a shot at the Rookie of the Year award, if he keeps hitting like this.

Lou wisely pulled Alfonso Soriano, Derrek Lee and Aramis Ramirez after the fifth inning, giving them needed rest, particularly Ramirez, who huffed and puffed his way into 3B with a fourth-inning leadoff triple, which wound up being wasted. When Rocky Cherry (just recalled, with Billy Petrick returned to the minors) came in to pitch, I figured, with Angel Pagan having started in CF, that I might get to write "PIE" after "CHERRY" on my scorecard, as I did once during the spring. No such luck -- Felix Pie did come into the game, but not replacing Cherry.

Comic relief was provided in the 7th, when Pie and Jacque Jones, who had come in to play CF when Marshall was removed, both threw their hands up on a Braun drive into the ivy. 3B umpire Bruce Froemming, who will be sixty-eight years old in September and is retiring (Cub fans all rejoice!) at the end of the season, waddled out to the ivy, as slowly as the pace of the 2 hour, 55 minute game would allow, raised his hands triumphantly to indicate a ground-rule double, and then waddled back. I fervently hope this will be the last Wrigley Field series where he appears.

Jones, incidentally, didn't improve his trade value by going 0-for-3. It was the first time he'd had more than one at-bat in a game in ten days, and he hasn't had a hit since June 19. Replacing Petrick with Cherry didn't really solve the problem, as Dave reminded me: "Who's the long man?" Scott Eyre threw two not-so-great innings today, but he's not really a long reliever. I've been against a 12-man pitching staff, but right now, the Cubs could use that extra pitching body, and it's not going to happen unless Jones (or maybe Cesar Izturis, who also looked bad pinch-hitting today, and has had only two AB since June 25) is somehow removed from the roster.

There's not much more to say. Today could have been a statement made by the Cubs, had they won the game, because of yesterday's incredible comeback. Was it a statement in reverse, by the Brewers? Only if Milwaukee wins tomorrow. Despite the way the Cubs have played the last week, I think it was probably too much to ask to think they could have swept a very good Milwaukee club. Win tomorrow, win the series, cut the deficit back to 6.5 games, and you've accomplished about as much as you could have hoped in this series. It'll be up to Jason Marquis, who has been shaky since May 9, to step up and make his own statement.

Finally, nice to see some BCB readers in the bleachers today, including wheatfield mike, returning again, and mrcubsfan from Des Moines and his family. Sorry you couldn't have been there yesterday!

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i'm wondering
if it's cheaper to DFA izturis than eyre or jones? i ask for two reasons: one, jones and eyre have trade value, albeit minimally so, while izturis has none. two, while it shorthands the cubs on the infield, izturis is an automatic out. he must go.

i've pondered the maddux connection, especially when the padres were sitting on curves and changeups in san diego, but the outings by hill and marshall against the brewers were more do to poorlocation on the fastball and a flat, flat curveball by both pitchers.

"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 6:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Tinfoil hat is in the eye of the beholder
Greg can tell Mike whatever he knows but if the Cubs execute
properly it should not matter. However  don't  underestimate the value of Mike's being able to pick his brain ( and vice/versa
FYI).
One weird thing about the link to Mike's bio. It says his nick name is mad dog. That must be awfully confusing when the two of them are on the golf course together.
"It's the Cubbies. There's always a vibe. It's the greatest vibe in baseball." Greg Maddux on Cub fan's optimism even after the 06 debacle.

by jessica on Jun 30, 2007 7:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Tinfoil hats
They are useless without an attached ground cable.

Just a thought...

by MN exile on Jul 1, 2007 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou's strategy....
...of resting Soriano,Ram and Lee so early was not a real confidence builder.  Why give up the ship so early after 2 incredible comebacks (Diamondbacks and yesterday) during the streak? He seemed to just let the air out of the balloon too early.  I was really disappointed in Lou.
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Jun 30, 2007 7:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i kinda felt like
that was a slap at yost for his base-stealing antics with a big lead, like lou was letting him know the cubs were giving this one one up and banking on the series win tomorrow. plus, the cubs just didn't have it today and there's no use losing your stars in a blowout.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yesterday's game....
..was a blow out in the 1st inning and we gutted it out and won in spectacular fashion. By Lou playing games with Yost, he is acting like a 10-year-old.  Just try to win the damn game.
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Jun 30, 2007 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not a game.
Did you see how Aramis lugged his way into 3B on that triple? Remember, his knee is still not 100%. Would you rather he sit out tomorrow? Me, I'd rather he had the rest today and be able to play tomorrow.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 30, 2007 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly.
they were so flat today, lou really made the right move. take the gut punch and rest 'em up for tomorrow.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So why also sit Soriano and Lee....
...2 of our hottest bats?  We were hot, we won 7 in a row and he throws in the towel in the biggest series of the year?  Come on Lou, we're not paying you to lose that Cubbie spirit!!!
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Jun 30, 2007 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as i said before
"the cubs just didn't have it today and there's no use losing your stars in a blowout."

why risk an injury in a 9-run loss?

"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 1, 2007 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to agree with Lou as well...
...5 runs with 9 innings to go is a whole helluva lot different than 8 runs with 4 innings to go.  Especially since game 1 was really a must win for the Cubs; it was the right move, wish he hadn't of had to make it, but it was definitely the right move.
This agression will not stand man...

by TexasCubbieFan on Jul 1, 2007 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not the same situation
the Brewer lead was bigger today AND the bullpen was worn out from the previous day. The chance of a comeback today was substantially smaller than yesterday.

by elgato on Jun 30, 2007 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why did they send Petrick down?
Thought he'd been doing well...
"Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?" ~Groucho Marx

by Jettero2112 on Jun 30, 2007 7:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Because
He couldn't pitch today because he thrown the previous two days--so they needed another pitcher for today and Petrick had options.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's back in 10 days.

by Josh77 on Jun 30, 2007 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is really short-sighted
As someone mentioned in a diary, there is not an endless supply of minor league options on players. I like Lou, and for the most part think he's done a decent job as manager this year, but his use of pitchers has not been great. Remember the early games that he played like they were game seven of the World Series, going through just about everybody in the bullpen and the bench in one inning. I'm sure Al, and many of you, remember, not too long ago, when 10 pitchers in the NL was the norm, 11 was a luxury. Now Lou has to have 12, and at one point this season, 13. This puts the bench at a disadvantage, especially when it's filled with Izturis and Jones. If a promising pitcher can't pitch one day, there's no need to waste an option and send him down.

by markleonette on Jun 30, 2007 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Options
Options are based on a season.  Once you use an Option on a player in a season, you may send him back and forth from the minors without spending any more options.   The only deal is that they have to stay down 10 days (unless replacing an injured player).   So, to the extent that the Cubs keep recycling the same group of young players, they are not burning other options.  

by frustratedfan on Jun 30, 2007 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why is Eyre still a Cub?
Jim Hendry doesn't have the balls to admit he was wrong, Eyre will continue to be lit up because we have an imbecile for a GM and he cannot adapt.  We got rid of MacPhail and Baker, why is Hendry the Clown still there?
Make something idiot-proof and the world will build a better idiot

by mastrick on Jun 30, 2007 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

or
because lefties always have trade value, even lefties who are pitching as poorly as eyre. eyre shouldn't be DFA'd while the cubs could get soemthing for him, even if it's a prospect of some sort. eyre's pitching poorly, but you don't just cut lefty pitchers.

jim hendry has always been loathe to admit his mistakes, so i'd get used to seeing eyre out there, at least in mop-up action and i'd think you'd be hard-pressed to find someone calling this signing a mistake last year, when eyre was lights out.

"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wtf?
He has a 7 ERA and a 2.19 WHIP (I know, I know ERA is a crude way of gauging, that's why whip is in there too). He's given up 20 ER in 24 (26 Innings) appearances (not including today) the only thing he's got going for him is 25 strikeouts.

There is no GM in the league that is going to listen to Hendry try and pawn him off. It's a fools errand.

Faith Plus One - Contributing Editor -http://www.inaleagueofherown.com

by Faith plus 1 on Jun 30, 2007 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well
ted lilly is proof that lefties with high ERA's and WHIP's can command attention, but two things about eyre's stats:
  1. his BABIP is .427 (!) i don't care if you're johan santana, if almost 50% of the batted balls against you fall in for hits, you're going to have a high ERA. however, even if you're les walrond, that rate can't continue to be that high. eyre's career rate (.310) is a bit high, but even last year, when he was solid it was .332, so i think we can expect the current number to drop and fall more in line with his career avg, and his ERA along with it.
  2. his BB/9 is 6.41, which is way above his career rate of 4.51, and astronimically above laster year's rate of 3.38. so i think we can expect the walks to diminish as well.
teams looking for lefty relievers will come sniffing around, because they can see that this season is uncharacteristically bad for eyre and some pitching coach will tell his GM he can turn him around.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry
that should be "astronomically"
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His line drive% is over 30%
It's no wonder his BABIP is so high, when he's coughing up that many hard-hit balls.

He's got the highest LD% of anyone in baseball who's thrown over 20IP this season.

by NTNgod on Jun 30, 2007 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

right
and that can't continue over a full season, so his numbers should begin to even out. if it's just a tired arm, maybe we'll see some improvement after the ASB. hopefully, he's not hiding an injury.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 1, 2007 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are times
when you have to admit a player's career is over. Hias career WHIP is 1.56. This year it's 2.21 and he's 35 yo. At his best, he was average. He's not a finely tuned athlete having a bad run of it. The fact that no one wants a piece of him under any circumstances tells us that he's toast.

We have 3 players on our team now that we can't give away. Waiting for their value to reach the equal of a Class A non-prospect only diminishes the effectiveness of the entire team. If we want to reach the playoffs, I doubt we can reach that harbor with 3 anchors holding us down.

Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jul 1, 2007 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well said
Eyre could have two left arms and nobody in the league would care.

by BlueSox on Jul 1, 2007 7:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's no reason...
...to think his LD% should even out, other than simple regression to the mean. High BABIP isn't unlucky, per se, if you give up the line drives that go with it. It just means you can't keep batters from teeing off on you.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Jul 1, 2007 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to throw any gas on a fire but.....
In respect to Al's post about Maddux knowing Hill and Marshall, wasnt he also Marquis' mentor of sorts in Atlanta as well? You would have to be pretty ignorant to think that the two brothers didn't have a talk when the pitching matchups were apparant. Might be a long day tomorrow as well
LILLY!!!

by Lablover on Jun 30, 2007 8:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We'll get
them tomorrow.
Men who whine are so unattractive. This place is full of them.

by sue369 on Jun 30, 2007 8:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm really impressed...
with everyone on here.  I've seen the Jekyl/Hyde personality of this message board before.  I expected it to go from World Series Champions!!! to Trade Everyone!!!  

I feel that Marquis is going to turn it around eventually, no better time than tomorrow.  

Any word on DLee's suspension?

by WartburgCub on Jun 30, 2007 8:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nothing official
on d-lee's suspension, but i would expect he will drop his appeal after tomorrow's game and serve it during the washington and pittsburgh series.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or...
... play the first two games in DC, THEN drop the appeal and simply sit out the rest of the games until the break.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 30, 2007 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'd rather he
miss the washington series. don't you worry 5 games plus the ASB might be a bit too long of a layoff? or is it just what the doctor ordered for a guy that has begun to scuffle a bit in the last couple of series?
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He needs the break
DLee is not himself.  For whatever reason...he's been swinging at bad pitches and watching good pitches go by.  That is NOT his style.  Can't say that the wrist would make him do that.  Maybe he is pressing to hit for a little more power, but just doesn't have the pop that he did before the injury and ends up hitting long flies to center.  Who knows, he just needs a break to regroup.

by martyblue on Jun 30, 2007 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah
i agree. i think his power will come, but he's not really had a quality at bat in quite some time. i hope the break does do him good.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

D Lee
Lee's got a higher OBP and AVG than his career numbers and his career slugging percentage is off by  .02.  In other words, he may not be having a career year, but he's having, for him, an above average year.   And for a player coming off of a serious injury, that's very very good.

The problem is the expectations game.  Cubs fans, and apparently Cubs management, want to believe that Lee's 2005 season and Soriano's 2006 season represent real goals -- not what they were -- career years.   In Lee's case, 2005 was 200 points in OPS over his next best year.   Thus, by creating absurdly high and unreasonable expectations for Lee, we are now aruging that a good year is not.

Would rest help Lee?  Sure.  But remember that this, right now, is a season with his OPS nearly 70 points over his career best second season.   For Lee, this is a very good season.

by frustratedfan on Jun 30, 2007 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you
Some people seem to think D Lee is actually hurting this team.  It's just plain BS.  He's one of the best in the league in all kinds of ways, even with his HR and RBI's down so far this season.

by BlueSox on Jul 1, 2007 7:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think..
many are saying that DLee is hurting the team. What many including myself are saying is that he is hurting the team by playing in that 3 hole. We need a consistent big bat in that 3 hole kind of like what Fielder is doing for MIL

by cubsnlinux on Jul 1, 2007 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Brewers
are 18-10 vs LHP this year. Our rotation with two of them back to back really plays into that disadvantage. I'm very happy that we're 1-1 so far but Marquis starts are beginning to scare me.
Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jun 30, 2007 8:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I had forgotten about that.
... thus, it's good that Marquis is throwing tomorrow.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jun 30, 2007 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, i think you gotta
split up hill and marshall. they're just too similar. the brewers just seem to rake lefties, though.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jun 30, 2007 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed
The All-Star break will probably be a good time to do that.

by elgato on Jun 30, 2007 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

man...
eyre and izturis has got to go. izturis is a for sure out every time at the plate and eyre is a for sure failure. it makes me sick to see either of them play.
Here comes the nasty leftie to shut it down in the 9th......Clay Rapada!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jun 30, 2007 8:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I've posted this before
But I really think we need another good starter.

I'd package one of the young lefties (I'd vote for Marshall) and some other prospects for a good No. 3 (or better) in the rotation.

I'm not sold on where we are at catcher, and Felix has been disappointing at the plate. But I like our lineup, and our pen is good now (except for Eyre).

But in six weeks, I think we'll be looking at the rotation as the weak spot. Maybe sooner.

by elgato on Jun 30, 2007 9:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe...
they certainly are not what they all were at the beginning, and only with Z is that a good thing. They seem to bounce back though because recently(last week maybe?) they were second in the NL in ERA. Having a starting staff with an ERA behind the Padres' starters is great, and maybe they will bounce back again.
"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Jun 30, 2007 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...
...the Cubs need another solid right handed starter. This weekend makes that glaringly obvious. I'm okay with trading Marshall for that need as well.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jun 30, 2007 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How About Joe Blanton of the A's??
Marshall, Jones and Izturis for Blanton. Before the guffaws start- Crosby gets hurt a lot and the A's could use the Izturis insurance. They just dumped Milton Bradley and could use an outfielder. Makes more sense than it first appears, really.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jun 30, 2007 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess...
I wouldn't be TOO upset with that trade, Blanton's only two years older than Marshall. (Blanton, 26; Marshall, 24.) It would just be hard to stomach initially since it seems Marshall has so much upside.

Maybe they would take Marquis instead. :)

by WartburgCub on Jun 30, 2007 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree....
...trading Marshall would be tough. But we just saw what having too many left handers does in the rotation. As far as I'm concerned, the Cubs could trade either Hill or Marshall and I'd be okay with it as long as it brought a good righty such as Blanton. It's the old adage, you gotta give something to get something.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jul 1, 2007 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why is it worse
having too many lefties than having too many righties?
Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jul 1, 2007 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because...
most hitters are right-handed.

by roscoevillage on Jul 1, 2007 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

expanding
I think you want one lefty per series to take advantage of the platooning guys that most teams have.  You don't want those guys to play in back-to-back games because they may get hot.  

Ideally, it is 2 lefties spaced 2 games apart in the rotation.

by roscoevillage on Jul 1, 2007 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This year
NL hitters have a BA vs LHP of .260 and vs RHP of .263. What I'm looking for is some statistical data showing why 3 LHP in the rotation is worse than having 3 RHP.
Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jul 1, 2007 3:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm decidedly not.....
... a stat geek driven kinda guy. Not saying you are, but to me, it's simply one of the givens of baseball when it comes to righty/lefty match ups. As someone else said, most batters are right handed. The odds, or stats if you prefer, favor the right handed batter over the left handed pitcher over time. Look at any team's present rotation or some of the better ones over time. At most, there are two left handers and they're split up. And here, when Hill and Marshall are so similar, even the bad professional hitter will eventually get a clue two days in a row.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jul 1, 2007 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know
baseball is one of those games that beg for statistical analysis. OTOH it's full of cliches that we have learned to accept over time because we've heard it over and over again. I think only about 20%-25% of pitchers are LH. That would explain why most rotations have more 3-2 or 4-1 splits RH/LH. I recall a number of years when the Cubs had no LHP in the rotation.

Anyway, it's good food for discussion.

Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jul 1, 2007 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cubs had...
... zero lefthanded starters in their regular rotation for a full season, between 1993 (Greg Hibbard) and 2003 (Shawn Estes). There were some LH starters in that decade, notably Terry Mulholland, but none stayed in the rotation for a full season.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 1, 2007 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's YOUR GUY AL!
Tomorrow, Al.
It's your guy!
Mr. 21 himself, Jason Marquis.
I hope you'll be sporting the jersey tomorrow for one of the biggest games of the early season!
(good to see we didn't lose too much in the wild card tonight)

If Marquis loses, I say burn the jersey!

"You're fired." - Dallas Green to Billy Connors while Billy was staying in the hospital.

by jdoolsiu on Jun 30, 2007 11:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is it still the early season?
I never quite know the formal definition!  
but you're right--tomorrow will provide a big, big game and opportunity, so the Cubs will need to strike and strike again--but not out!

--t.

"One of the worst writers on this board."

by Littlerock Rynofan on Jul 1, 2007 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am wearing the jersey right now.
Incidentally, I also wore it last Monday, the last game Marquis started, and he threw pretty well that night.

That game was somewhat memorable, as I recall. And the Cubs won.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 1, 2007 4:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's truly ...
A sad day when I'd prefer to watch the latest news from the terrorist attack in Glasgow over my beloved Cubbies.  I agree, Al, with your assessment of Marquis; he needs to get it together yesterday and hope the wind is blowing in. And bring his damn bat to Wrigley.  Hasn't he had more than a couple of three inning appearances in his last few starts?  So many folks on the web have noted that he tends to collapse after the All Star break--so I am not happy he seems to have a headstart!

The Cubs must win tomorrow--after that they'll but have three more games against the Brew Crew--I'm guessing they'll be in Milwaukee; the best way to cut into the Brewers' sizable but not necessarily insurmountable  divisional lead is to take the remainder of the two series from them--duh! Listen up Cubadores!

Such a depressing day.  Get it together Men in Blue!  

LRRF--t.

(BTW, Al:  who is Dave?  I can't remember anything since the husband died, apparently)

"One of the worst writers on this board."

by Littlerock Rynofan on Jul 1, 2007 12:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nope...
three night games at Wrigley.  August 28-30.

by WartburgCub on Jul 1, 2007 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should
change my user name to CentralCub!

GO DUTCH!

It's hard to be humble when you're number one.

by JF8 on Jul 1, 2007 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well then
Go Storm!
Men who whine are so unattractive. This place is full of them.

by sue369 on Jul 1, 2007 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think...........
Marquis is just reverting back to the pitcher he's always been. He hasn't had a really good start in over a month. Lilly's pitched poorly over the same span as well.
RAMIREZ!! PRIOR!!

by PriorandAramisfan23 on Jul 1, 2007 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahh ...
You must mean he's once again becoming the Player Who Shall Not Be Named!  Arghhh ... I'm already frightened.  

Just win, boys.  Just win.

"One of the worst writers on this board."

by Littlerock Rynofan on Jul 1, 2007 2:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dave...
... is one of the season ticket holders I sit with, and also the owner of the Rockford Riverhawks of the Frontier League. He knows a tremendous amount about baseball. I've mentioned him before.

The Cubs have one more series vs. the Brewers -- at Wrigley Field August 28-30. They did win 4 of 6 in Milwaukee this year.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 1, 2007 4:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shortsop
Now that Ramirez is back, should Theiot remain the regular SS or is Lou going to platoon him with Derosa?  I don't want to see this turn into another outfield oversupply situation.  Just pick one or the other and stick with with him.
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Jul 1, 2007 5:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who was that man?
During yesterdays broadcast when they discussed Jacque Jones the broadcast camera was on Jones for a brief moment.  Then as the broadcasters continued to comment about Jones for some reason the camera focused in a close-up of Cliff Floyd and they held that for the rest of their conversation about Jones.

Were the broadcasters going to talk about Floyd (I don't believe they did) or did they get Jones and Floyd confused?

by DrCrawdad on Jul 1, 2007 7:47 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't too surprised or upset
Of course I would have liked to see a win, but I somehow felt they were due for a loss today.  Hopefully they got a couple of weeks worth of bone-headed and flat play out of their system and can get another streak going that carries them into the All-Star Break, starting today.

by SuperContext on Jul 1, 2007 9:48 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

UNRELATED
Did the 1995 or 1996 Cubs jerseys have the players' names on the back or not?
"That wouldn't be a home run in a phone booth."

by lovejones72 on Jul 2, 2007 4:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, they did.
Sorry I missed this post before. ALL Cub jerseys had names on the back, home & road, from 1992 through 2004.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 6, 2007 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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