Witness To History
Somewhere, buried in one of these threads, one of you made the comment that Barry Bonds will soon be "the greatest home run hitter of all time".
To which I responded: "No, he won't. He'll have hit the most home runs of anyone. But that doesn't necessarily make him the greatest HR hitter." To me, that title will forever belong to Babe Ruth. Dave & I discussed this today -- though Bonds was clearly the best all-around player of his era before he did any illegal PED's (Note: this is still unproven, but there is strong circumstantial evidence), Ruth changed the way the game is played. There were years where he outhomered entire teams -- it would be as if Bonds would have hit 200 HR in a season.
With that in mind, I will say that I was glad I was witness to history today -- Barry Bonds' two HR this afternoon, the 752nd and 753rd of his career, set all kinds of marks:
- It was his 71st multi-HR game; that's one behind Babe Ruth for first all-time.
- It was his 7th career game with six or more RBI.
- He has now hit 19 HR this year. That's the most for any player in the year in which he turned 43 -- surpassing Carlton Fisk.
Anyway, Lilly singled, and then, seeing Matt Morris and Bengie Molina totally ignore him, took second on an uncontested steal, the first of his career.
This is important because Lilly then scored on Alfonso Soriano's popfly double down the RF line. There's no guarantee Lilly would have scored from first.
And this run, at the time giving the Cubs an 8-3 lead, seemed unimportant, but the bullpen today did not do a particularly good job, and that run wound up being critical. Billy Petrick gave up a two-run HR to Molina hit into the teeth of the wind, which had shifted from west to northeast with the passage of a cold front (despite all the storms this week, they once again passed by the ballpark, where there were no rain delays the entire series). Michael Wuertz was also ineffective, and when Will Ohman was summoned to face Bonds, he thought he had him struck out a couple of times, only to leave a ball up on a 3-2 count (my friend Jon said the Cubs should have walked him, forcing in a run. Maybe. That would have made the score 9-6 instead of 9-8), and Bonds placed it carefully in the LF basket. Flash cameras were strongly in evidence for all of Bonds' at-bats, even shining through the sun that came out late in the day. So Bonds is right when he says, "People say they hate me, but they all go 'Click-click-click' with their cameras."
Fortunately, Carlos Marmol shut the door and though he didn't have his best stuff, he retired all four batters he faced, and Bob Howry had a 1-2-3 9th for his 7th save. Fortunately again, since the Cubs ran through most of the bullpen today, there will likely be a fresh arm tomorrow if Ryan Dempster is, as expected, activated from the DL. Either Petrick or Sean Gallagher will return to Iowa.
Bonds' first HR landed on Sheffield; a ball was thrown back on the field, but according to the Yahoo recap above, it wasn't the HR ball. Dave Davison, one of the regular ballhawks, got it, and sent a throwback ball back.
The Cub offense did another good job of producing runs today, taking advantage of horrendous Giants defense in the first inning (three errors) to score four runs, and they wound up with 14 hits and four walks, scoring nine runs again without benefit of a home run. Aramis Ramirez had three hits and two RBI and Jacque Jones, suddenly looking like a major league hitter again, had four singles, bumping his average up to .244, which is still mediocre, but better than the .220s where he's been mired most of the year.
Late in the game, some of the LF bleacherites started chanting "HGH! HGH!" at Bonds -- give them credit for originality, at least. Then they went into the sing-song "Baaaa-ree! Baaaaa-ree!" Bonds, as is his wont, completely ignored all of it. You could tell his knees were bothering him early, as the two first-inning doubles might not have been so with a faster left fielder. But obviously, they didn't hurt him from hitting this afternoon.
So Bonds heads on to Milwaukee, Bud Selig's home turf, and if he hits a HR or two in the first game of the series, it'll be interesting to see if Selig shows up for the other games.
Today was a scheduled giveaway for kids -- a Build-a-Bear. Mark was with me and got one -- or, I should say, got a voucher, because some sort of shipping delay prevented the bears from arriving. The Cubs did the right thing to avoid having a lot of unhappy kids -- the voucher, which you filled out with a shipping address and left with the club, said that Build-a-Bear was sending "an extra gift". We'll see what that is.
Finally, a couple of words about today's roster moves. As you know, Cesar Izturis was sent to Pittsburgh for a PTBNL; the Pirates are picking up most if not all of the remaining contract. Apparently he was one of Jim Tracy's favorites in Los Angeles, and Jack Wilson isn't, so Izturis will get his chance to show that he can still play. Jake Fox was recalled to make his ML debut, and hit into a double play as a pinch-hitter in the 9th. He's the 9th player on the current active roster who did not start the year with the ballclub. The MLB Trade Rumors post on this deal says that the Cubs have some interest in Xavier Nady -- that would give the Cubs a major league RF with a power bat who hits righthanded, an important acquisition in my opinion if Jim Hendry can make it happen. I don't think he's done dealing, from rumblings I've heard, and I have no specifics. Jacque Jones, for his part, with his four-hit day, has probably staved off being traded, at least for now.
Both Drew from Rockford and Sparkles (who had really wanted to see Barry Bonds play at least once) joined us in the bleachers today. Sparkles got her wish -- saw Bonds homer, and saw the Cubs win.
The Brewers maintained their 3.5 game lead with their 10-1 win over Arizona, and now we all root for the Giants to play their best this weekend up in Milwaukee. Onward -- this has been a productive homestand so far, with a 6-1 mark. Till tomorrow. (And sorry, I don't have time to go through the 1000+ comments in the game thread, an all-time record!)
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Could the Diamondbacks be any more pathetic???
And then the..............
"Dave Davison, a 39-year-old regular at Wrigley"
Let's get something straight: This guys actually sees ZERO baseball games at Wrigley. They paint him as some FAN who actually watches baseball. Not true in the least.
"And it wasn't the first souvenir for Davison, who has retrieved more than 4,200 keepsake balls"
Souvenirs? Right. He's selling them outside the ballpark for $5 each. Pathetic.
hilarious song
Al
If they walked him it would have loaded the bases, not forced in a run. He instead hit a 3 run homer, not a GS.
You're correct.
The bases were loaded
Third base was open when he hit the 3-run HR in the 7th.
What?
The tying run
by HoffPowahhh on Jul 19, 2007 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
True
I agree
by Fraggin Judge on Jul 20, 2007 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions
He might be
by HoffPowahhh on Jul 20, 2007 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions
No
Keep in mind...
It was in a game that the Giants were trailing 8-6 in the bottom of the 9th, with two out and the bases loaded. Bonds was walked to make the score 8-7, and then the next hitter, Brent Mayne, made an out to end the game.
Here's the game in question. The situation yesterday wasn't comparable, and I think I'd still have walked him.
That's a very different
Maybe not.
MAD Magazine, March 1969
And one shows a huge man with a baseball bat: "They always walk you, even when the bases are loaded."
Barry Bonds was 4 years old at the time.
So the title of the recap,
Nady has some strong stats' for a minor deal
There has got to be more to this PTBNL possibly a Cub to fulfill this deal. Could it be a pitcher when Dempster comes off the DL someone like Gallagher and waiting till D-Lee is off suspension by throwing in Fox as well.
Adding Nady would take DeRosa off the RF spot and put Pagan fully in CF. If Jones starts getting hot with this platoon then all is well.
Question is how well are the two PHAT guys of Ward and Floyd?
We got Nady?
by puckishcubsfan on Jul 19, 2007 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Nady cannot be the PTBNL...
I'm not sure if you were speculating on that possibility or on the possibility of another trade with the Pirates, but he's certainly not involved in the Izturis deal.
that is precisely what I am speculating
What I find interesting is Hendry as made three trades under the radar and had Jones traded without the rumor mill knowing it.
Our friend jacob at the other BCB....
"When you spend $300 million in the off season, don't you expect to be able to, in an important AB, be able to send someone out there with some success above A ball? That franchise is in tatters."
Boy do I love tatters. It smells like... victory.
Tatters?????????
He obviously forgot what "Tatters"
"Tatters" would be the:
Milwaukee Brewers from 1983 to 2006, as run by Bud Selig. Try to find some Divisional Titles, and wild card wins in that stretch, in both leagues.
This is what happens when fans panic.
Or perhaps they just crunch too many numbers over there.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 19, 2007 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Mmmmmmmmmmm... unexplained taters....
TATER TOT CASSEROLE
1 can cream of mushroom soup
1 bag tater tots
shredded cheese
1 lb of ground hamburger meat
serves: 6 or 7
Brown hamburger meat. Add cream of mushroom soup and stir together continuously.
Let simmer on low heat for 15 minutes.
Place mixture in the bottom of a casserole dish. Lay tater tots neatly on top of the mixture.
Place in oven on 350' and let the tater tots brown.
Sprinkle with cheese; melt it in the oven and ENJOY.
by salparadise23 on Jul 19, 2007 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Hot Dish
Maybe that's why there is this confusion over "tatters"
by evillecubman on Jul 20, 2007 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions
A lot of Cubs hate
there is not as much Brewer bad talk here
I agree
It's those smaller markets that love to bash the big, bad markets. Milwaukee bashes Chicago. Chicago could care less.
San Diego bashes LA. Nobody cares there. (And of course, there are always cheap shots at Cubs fans at gaslamp ball.
By the way -- somebody here posted that if they caught the record breaking HR -- they'd write 'Cheater' on it and throw it back.
That same thought popped up on Gaslampball today.
What a coincidence!!
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 19, 2007 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure they hate us
Sure, we don't care about the Brewers as much as they apparently care about us, and that pisses them off even more.
Let them have their hate - we have the hottest team in major league baseball since early June!
The Brewers
by puckishcubsfan on Jul 19, 2007 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
after this fun bantering this could be correct
The thing Cubs are playing almost .700 ball since June 3rd they keep this pace for another 6 weeks, Cubs will have a record somewhere near 75-78 wins and unless Milwaukee keeps a similar pace Cubs will overtake them regardless.
Milwaukee has two serious problems, they lost their CF until mid to late August and now their ace until at least August.
The ever-popular "300 million dollars"
Do they not understand that the Cubs payroll is not even in the top 5 this year? That statement is as relevant as me walking up to you and saying "Wow, you're going to make, like, over a million bucks in your lifetime! You're rich!"
Mmmm, trendy Brewer fans with their constant Sportscenter watching. I get jealous just thinking about it.
To me, the funny thing here...
Also...
I actually had a Brewer fan make fun of our payroll to me, and he was saying crap like ooo Soriano working out well for ya huh? And then he pulled out the Prior and Wood situation and what a bust they have been. All i replied with was Ben Sheets... At least we got a few playoff games out of Wood and Prior.
FYI, I don't see any problem
And, haven't we seen the "HGH Stimulators" available at health food stores and advertised on informercials? (If you haven't -- check your nearest Whole Foods or similar store. To slam BB for using this stuff is kind of hypocritical.
HGH -- might have a future.
But 'roids -- they'll kill ya.
LF should have yelled: "CREAM!"
RF should have yelled: "CLEAR!"
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 19, 2007 6:29 PM CDT reply actions
why???
1000+ comments in the game thread...
I mentioned earlier in the game thread:
Today's posting count record and an all-time 4-game attendance record set on the same day.
And Bonds' first ever multi-HR game was ironically against the Cubbies right there in Wrigley back in '87...
And then he does it again today....
Just some baseball / Cubbie weird-isms...
And an incredible day all around!
But I'll take any Cubbies win over a 'roid-pumped, over-inflated, egotistical dick-wadd's shameful attempt at history any day....
And I think it would be a total gut-buster of a laugh if the committee totally snubs him getting into the HOF....
Hey....it COULD happen.... :-)
Go Cubbies!!
Getting Nady
Cubs need to understand that Floyd won't play more than 30 games from here out, and need a solid outfielder.
So with the Izturis move Cubs get a player to be named later for Maddux, great. Funny how the Hendry guys are finding the door, Barrett, Izzy, and maybe Jones.
I know Mariotti can be a jerk, but his story on Z was good today. Cubs need to sign Z. This has Maddux written all over it. When the New York Teams get involed, there is no limit.
by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Jul 19, 2007 6:40 PM CDT reply actions
The only
"When the NY teams get involved, there is not limit". True to some extend, but the Cubs just shelled out buko bucks for Soriano. So on another blog you might see " When the Cubs get involved there is no limit". Food for thought.
I can't get my head around this
phat
by phatass on Jul 19, 2007 6:56 PM CDT reply actions
My friend Dave says...
And if they do, know who I think they should go after?
Jon Garland. He's probably available. Wouldn't it be poetic -- not to mention helpful in a baseball way -- to get him back, nine years later?
ESPN's Jayson Stark...
It's an exceedingly slim market for starting pitching right now, and I doubt the difference between what we have and what we could get is worth anything close to what we'd have to pay.
I can see starting pitching
We've got Floyd and Ward hurt. How do we trade a strong position player (or two) for him. We've got Pie, Patterson, Cedeno Etc.
I don't think we can get rid of anybody right now. This doesn't actually bother me. We've got a pretty good 40 man roster right now. This team is winning.
Everybody seems to be stepping up at different points. All trades are a gamble. Keeping some of these guys, like Jones, I think is less of a gamble.
I say, unless there's some pretty crazy good trade for a couple of prospects (not any of the guys who have played in Chicago this year, who have all had an impact) let's just stick with what we've got.
Is this silly?
phat
by phatass on Jul 19, 2007 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I tend to agree
Relief Pitching Please
As much as I would love to have a power hitting everyday RF'er, lets get our priorities straight people!
The only legit
He's Dempster-esque, he really is. Just with better numbers. Time was, 8 pitches -- game over.
One of his last saves...I tried to count....hits, walks....foul balls.....40+ pitches. Really.
Amazingly long 9th against the weak A's.
He's just another closer now, and I'd be careful in acquiring him, unless his arrival means Eyre goes....
But, having both Gagne/Dempster as a 2-headed closer isn't a bad idea. I'd never re-sign the guy to a long-term deal, tho.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 19, 2007 7:04 PM CDT reply actions
I think
Dempster, Howry, Marmol...
Don't count
I'm not...
If they did figure it out, look out. Dempster, Howry, Marmol, Wood (or Petrick if Wood isn't healthy), and a functional Eyre or Ohman (or both), I'd be VERY satisfied. But, that's a big "if."
lefties..
NEVER count on Ohman
by scotteboy on Jul 19, 2007 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
cotts
Neal Cotts is on the DL.
Cherry's a rightie
by scotteboy on Jul 19, 2007 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Um... probably.
damn
Blaming the beer is a proud tradition...
OK
by Fraggin Judge on Jul 20, 2007 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh but
I don't think..
But no one is "counting" on anything. If he returns and throws well, that's an unexpected bonus, not an expectation.
Agreed of course
Yabbut...
He wants to win. If Wood can help him win, he'll be on the team. If not, he won't.
That's as it should be.
I like the
listening to the cardinals game....
From Rotoworld.com
How's that five-year extension looking now? The Cardinals gave Carpenter a $63.5 million deal last winter, even though he was already under control through 2008. Maybe he'll come back and be something worth close to that. However, as many arm problems as he's had over the course of his career, there's just no guarantee that he'll ever again be a dominant starter. Tommy John surgery will put him out through at least the All-Star break. It's probably about 60-40 that he'll come back and make a positive impact over the final two months of 2008.
Well... they worked him till his arm fell off
kinda like
Come on
Loud sustained applause
Over at VEB
Or at least to a team with deep pockets...
Wow...
First they spend no money in free agency after the World Series win, losing (amongst others) Jeff Suppan, thereby wrecking their chance at a repeat before it even started. Okay, fine, but at least they saved money for free agency next year, when Mark Buehrle will be on the market.
Oops. Buehrle (he of the life-long Cardinals fandom) resigns with the White Sox in the middle of a disastrous season for the hometown discount.
And now Carpenter is out for probably 2-3 years when you factor in recovery time, if he ever returns at all. And Scott Rolen is getting older, and Jim Edmonds is already old....
Boy, isn't schadenfreude fun?
That's not true.
And...
They have NEVER signed a top-tier free agent like Z will be if he doesn't re-sign with the Cubs (and I think he will).
I might add, Ted Lilly's signing with the Cubs looks pretty damn good right now, doesn't it?
the entire FA signings look good right now
seems like they got that world series
by buckmulligan on Jul 19, 2007 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I've had to miss the last 2 games
by aduck6992 on Jul 19, 2007 8:07 PM CDT reply actions
Again..
On an unrelated note...did it bother (though not surprise) anyone else that the entire ESPN frontpage has been a huge picture of Barry touting his two homeruns, but nowhere in the front page does one see any evidence of the Cubbies beating the Giants...
Bonds affects every baseball fan...
So I think we can let them slide on this one, despite their noted West Coast bias.
I've got
by cubbieblue86 on Jul 19, 2007 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Bonds' HR have historical significance...
Honestly - outside of Brewers and Cubs fans (and maybe Giants fans, although who knows at this point?), does anyone REALLY care about the outcome of today's game?
On the other hand, people everywhere are keeping track of the HR race. I don't think it's a slap in the face of the Cubs. This is what happens when a player closes on one of the most famous records in sports.
Interesting
by puckishcubsfan on Jul 19, 2007 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
But as I posted earlier
The Cubs, although playing the best ball in the NL are still a second place team. I say just sneak up on everybody.
Again, I will post:
If you went up to 10 very casual baseball fans (not in Chicago or Milwaukee) and asked them:
"How many games have the Cubs won?"
I can (almost) guarantee you 2 might actually know they've won 50 games. Most would think they've lost 50 games, because, after all -- they're the Cubs. You know, the goat, the curse, etc etc ad nauseum.
Just let things be. When the Cubs win, it becomes larger than life and Fox trots out the goat. I don't want to see that crap until the WORLD SERIES.
We're winning. Shhhhhhhh!
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 19, 2007 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
We cant get Nady
If a team receives a PTBNL, the player must not have been playing in the league to which he is being sent at the time of the trade (e.g. if the Red Sox receive a PTBNL, the player may not have been playing in the American League at the time of the trade). This rule was instituted after Harry Chiti was traded for himself in 1962 (he was traded from the Indians to the Mets for a PTBNL, which turned out to be himself). As a result, PTBNL's are usually minor leagues. Sometimes, teams will use players on the disabled list as players to be named so as to avoid having to get special permission from the commissioner's office.
Heres the link
http://www.sonsofsamhorn.net/wiki/index.php/MLB_Rules_and_Procedures#Player_to_be_Named_Later
by aduck6992 on Jul 19, 2007 8:33 PM CDT reply actions
You are correct...
I don't think we'd be getting Nady in any case, but I can guarantee that he will not be the PTBNL.
I'll be interested to see who we get.
by aduck6992 on Jul 19, 2007 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, just a minute here.
Sure...
I think it's a reach to think that the Izturis deal has any implications on us getting Nady, other than that it shows lines of communication are open between Hendry and Pittsburgh.
could be a player from list A or list B
Now, as for Izturis Cubs paid for August and July but then the Pirates are on the hook for '08...
They also want to trade Wilson
PTBNL a minor-leaguer
Pirates are on the hook for $277K of Izturis' salary; Cubs are paying the rest.
by NTNgod on Jul 19, 2007 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Does anyone know of other PTBNL
Daryle Ward is gettingan MRI...
And again Al forgets the "rally" donut.
"sacrifice" and eat it ( or some of it) in Jeff's absense.
However Marquis vs Webb. Be afraid, be very, very afraid. What is the over/under on Eyre pitching tomorrow ?
by jessica on Jul 19, 2007 10:56 PM CDT reply actions
I almost bought one this morning
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 19, 2007 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I did forget.
I will take one for the team. If I can find the Official Simpsons Movie Donut this morning, I will bring one and consume it in the bleachers.
Whatever it takes.
re we going to be in trouble
Well...
Then you'd really be taking one for the team
J Jones blunder...
Are we forgetting that the reason you have to "sell JJ" is as much for his many mental errors as opposed to his poor hitting? I am hoping he gets that BA over 250 so we can get something better for him, but I still want him gone, The mental errors won't stop...Lou knows it too. That is why he wanted Barrett and Jones off the club since early June.
it was a shot
No Chance
nope
Gotta play fair, man.
You can't blame JJ for everything that's wrong in the world ;-)
But we NEED him now...
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 19, 2007 11:09 PM CDT reply actions
Okay, so he's having a "hot" month...
Jones has to go
b) are all of you willing to forgive the 15-20 bone head base-running plays that Jones has made in the the last two seasons and you want his rally killing base-running skills still on this team?
I still say cheer on the improved hitting and move him. This team does not need players who lack good playing instincts and Jones has proven he lacks good player instincts. Adios. The whole reason the Cubs are playing so well now is we are eliminating mental errors...and the players who make them (Barrett, Jones, etc...).
Not disagreeing with you....
Fitting would be...
He is an arrogant, self-serving, pompous ass who epitomizes everything that is wrong with certain athletes today in professional sports - he treats fans, media, other players, like absolute crap. He has never understood how great his life truly is.
And, see, I didn't even get to PEDs.
:)
Maybe it would be best if....
selig
The best part of Bonds hitting 755 and 756
Interesting Wood read:
Not getting my hopes up, just hoping for good things to happen to both Wood and this team. Karma is a very powerful thing.
:)
Bonds proved he's the greatest of his generation.
Did Bonds use steroids and HGH in the past? Probably. But let's not forget that he wasn't the only one. What about the pitchers who faced Bonds and used those illegal substances? Are we going to deny their existence? Are we going to give them a free pass?
Let's face it. Bonds' reputation is bad, in part because of his personality but also, in part, because the media, in general, don't like him. They portray him in an unfavorable light and have succeeded in making Bonds a villain to our eyes. The media did the same to Sosa after he did what his lawyer recommended in a congressional hearing, that is to avoid answering in a less than perfect English and to rely in his native language to avoid any possibility of a misleading answer that could come back to haunt him. yet many in the media started joking that Sosa forgot how to speak English!
Bonds, old, hurting and without any substances in his aching body, proved today that he is a great hitter. Other players were lesser human beings than Bonds but are in the Hall of Fame. Can't we give Barry Bonds the recognition -along with the criticism- that he has earned?
I agree with your general premise.
However, I am not going to make the assumption that there is not an impure substance running through his veins. To be quite honest, I imagine that he's taking steroids, currently, because he knows he's not going to called out in the media by Bud Selig. Selig wants nothing to do with more controversy. I know this sounds like a conspiracy theory.
However, regardless of any of the lingering suspicion, probable or not, Barry Bonds is one of the best players to ever play the game. The balls he hit today, against what looked to be a blistering wind, may or may not have been aided in their distance.
THe thing that pisses me off about bonds the most is the football uniform he wears. If pitchers could throw fastballs at him to get his ass off of the plate, things might be a different.
BAN PLATE ARMOR!
Bonds is tested constantly.
In addition, one of the things steroids do for an athlete is it helps the muscles stay healthy. Bonds' injuries and constant aches during the past couple of years are a sign that he is clean now.
Anyway, I'm glad that we agree that Bonds is a great player, steroid use notwithstanding.
On what basis
A few things...
- I'm not sure how often Bonds is actually tested. Tests are random (i.e., not everyone gets tested), and it's not been stated how often they are administered at all.
- Tests specifically don't catch HGH, which is a possibility for Bonds to be taking.
- It is widely believed that the scientists who make the good stuff are always a step or two ahead of the tests. I'm sure that if Bonds is taking, he's taking stuff that is state-of-the-art and currently undetectable.
So what if he's still using HGH?
by Fraggin Judge on Jul 20, 2007 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Barry
!Steroid User!
^^Steroid Era^^
by cubbyblue137 on Jul 20, 2007 7:21 AM CDT reply actions
The suggested reading
Take what? 3 out of 4?
Take what? A Hall of Fame career that has become a complete and total sham?
Take what? A glorified AAA team trying to play big-league ball?
Maybe I don't get it.
As an addendum,
I can't speak for anyone else, but I was long off the Sammy Sosa bandwagon after 'roid suspicion, corked bat, that ridiculous hop, etc.
By the time he left Wrigley, I was definitely over him simply because of the way he had treated the game.
You really don't see that in SF with BB.
by SyneRandberg on Jul 20, 2007 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions
He's all they've had
I would say
Speaking of Philly
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