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Open Thread: Cubs vs. Diamondbacks, Sunday 7/22, 1:20 CT

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A few notes:

  • The Cubs will pass the 2 million mark in home attendance today, in the 51st home date. Attendance through yesterday is 1,989,450, an average of 39,789. If the Cubs continue to play well, they've got a chance to break the team attendance record of 3,170,154, set in 2004.
  • Lou & Jim, a lovefest:
    Piniella and Hendry have helped each other this season, Hendry by bringing up players from the Cubs' minor-league system and Piniella by utilizing them. It has made the farm system attractive to teams Hendry might deal with.
  • Jacque Jones: head cleared, playing well:
    When things were at their worst July 4, when Jacque Jones was hitting .167 over 40 games and rumored on the Cubs' discard list, he admits to wondering if he still could play the game.

    "We all lose confidence and if you say you don't in that situation, then you're lying," Jones said. "I know I have ability, but sometimes the mental keeps you really from coming out. I was down on myself a little bit and it started to snowball."

  • Marlins pitcher and Crystal Lake South graduate Scott Olsen is in a heap of trouble.
  • And finally, a rumor: scouts from Tampa Bay have been spotted during this homestand. Make of this what you will.
 Today's Starting Pitchers
Sean Marshall
 S. Marshall
Cubs		 vs. Yusmeiro Petit
 Y. Petit
D'backs
4-3 W-L 1-2
3.43 ERA 3.22
40 SO 18
19 BB 9
6 HR 5
vs. Ari -- vs. Cubs
Marshall threw pretty well in his last start, winding up with a no-decision in a loss to the Giants last Tuesday. He has never faced the Diamondbacks.

Petit, who was acquired by Arizona from the Marlins just before Opening Day for Jorge Julio (who isn't even with the Marlins any more -- he was traded to Colorado on May 13), is also making his first start vs. the Cubs, though he threw a scoreless relief inning against the Cubs on May 23, 2006, when still with Florida. He has also faced Alfonso Soriano, who is 3-for-3 against him (two doubles).

Here's today's Mediacenter; the game's on cable in Chicago (CSN), on local TV in Phoenix (channel 3, and on its satellites elsewhere in Arizona), and on Extra Innings.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2006 version)

And, for your convenience, here's the Gameday link for the Brewers/Giants game.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Cubs win today...take series with AZ
I'm just sayin...
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 9:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Trib today or somewhere said...
Not much trade talk or scouts seen in stands..I'm sure they pretty much know what Cubs have by now but might want to check out an Eyre (??) or Jones to see in person, up close, what they've got to offer...what would we be int. in from TB?? They had some good OF'ers still think RF our biggest hole to fill with Floyd's persistent injuries.

by writerinwrigley on Jul 22, 2007 9:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Rays will not be interested in...
Jones, Eyre, Howry, etc.  They are going to be interested in young inexpensive starting pitching.  Think Hill, Marshall, etc.

They have a glut of OF, so Jones has zero appeal to them.  They are probably looking to move guys like Baldelli and Gomes, not Crawford, Young, or Upton.

by SouthernCub on Jul 22, 2007 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Y'know, after thinking...
...about it a bit, if what people like Jayson Stark and Ken Rosenthal are saying about the trade market is true, Marshall would be the best starting pitcher available to a LOT of teams out there. If Hendry is going to put Marshall on the block, I hope he doesn't screw up, and he realizes what position he's in if he decides to deal a starting pitcher.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Jul 22, 2007 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point
Think about it, dealing a young left handed starter with great upside. You are right, you better get pretty good value in return. Hopefully the correct value.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"

by wild bill on Jul 22, 2007 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree...
Marshall is a VERY valuable commodity.  He shouldn't be dealt for a rental player.  Right now, I'd not mess with the rotation.  These guys (with the exception of Marquis) have been very effective, and they're eating innings and keeping the team in games.

Unless there's a "home run" of a deal out there, I'd leave the rotation alone for now.

by SouthernCub on Jul 22, 2007 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trade
Who do you rather see go, Hill or Marshall?  

And can we afford to trade a starter now?

by Seamer on Jul 22, 2007 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al,
The Brewers/Giants gameday link doesn't take you anywhere.

by grogg2434 on Jul 22, 2007 9:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.
I fixed it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 22, 2007 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok
its time to get ready for the playoffs. i think from now on we start saying around here----were headed for cubtober!!! man this might be as excited as ive been in a long long time.
Here comes the nasty leftie to shut it down in the 9th......Clay Rapada!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jul 22, 2007 9:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, boy.
Too early for this. Even as optimistic as I usually am, I'm taking this ride one day at a time.

As I often say, patience.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 22, 2007 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I often say, patience.
I would agree Al - patience is a good thing.

But throw a good dose of belief in the mix too.

I think the two combined with a dash of common sense will serve alot of folks well.

:-)

"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cubs and the Rays
Moved from Chicago area last summer --
about an hour north of Tampa -- longtime Cubs fan and bleacherite -- been back for 4 games at the friendly confines and 3 games in Atlanta -- really miss my 20 to 30 games at Wrigley but am surviving.
As for the Rays -- have some talented young hitters and a couple of decent starters. No and I mean no middle relievers.
Their few core guys -- Upton, Crawford, and Delmon Young -- would demand pitching prospects. Young and Upton are not going anywhere. Crawford would be the only possibility. He would be a great addition -- even for a batch of our prospects. If the Cubs are williing to give up some of the following -- Patterson (if Fontenot is our second sacker, why not?), Murton, Cedeno, Hoffpair, Gallagher, etc.
Would he be worth it? Yes -- and I mean bigtime. Crawford -- the Rays only All-Star -- is a terrific fielder, steals bases, hits decently well, and has power.
We could only hope.

by ceegeewow on Jul 22, 2007 9:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Crawford
I would give them Pie for Crawford in a minute plus another prospect. But I don't think he is available and Tampa is notorious for wanting a fortune in trades....

by LT on Jul 22, 2007 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A Fortune
Why not a fortune?
Iowa and Tennessee have quite a few guys that have been hitting well over .300 and we certainly do not have room for all of them now and the foreseeable future.
I know that the Rays would want a lot -- but do have the need for 3 or 4 guys who are legitimate starters -- both position and pitching.
Speculation is what it's all about.
The Cubs are certainly not looking at Rays prospects or their pitching and the other position guys for the Rays just do not meet our needs -- players like Pena, Wigginton, Brendan Harris, and Baldelli.
So go for the moon --

by ceegeewow on Jul 22, 2007 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh...
...this is just me spitballing here, but if they were interesting in Pie - or Veal, or any of our farmhands - their minor league scouts would take care of that.

The players the Rays could be scouting come down to: Jake Fox, Scott Moore, Theriot, Fontenot, and Sean Marshall.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Jul 22, 2007 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or they couldn't be scouting the Cubs at all.
Maybe they are scouting Arizona because they have a lot more young talent. Hopefully it's the Cubs and they make a good deal.
"I don't talk. I just let what I do talk for myself." -Johan Santana

by sparkles721 on Jul 22, 2007 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just think that it's too much of a coincidence..
...for a team that's two starting pitchers away from respectability is showing up on a day when a young and reportedly available starter is available on the block.

I just hope this doesn't mean that Wade Miller is being considered for a return to the rotation.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Jul 22, 2007 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

amen
One of the worst things hendry could do right now is weaken our rotation. I'd say add a starter if the demands for guys like contreras weren't so ridiculous.

by elgato on Jul 22, 2007 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wigginton
I haven't seen Wigginton play the OF in a very long time but this guy would certainly foot the bill for being another one of Lou's "versatile players."

This guy could cover 3b, 1b, and perhaps even 2b along with RF.  If Wigginton is at all competent in the OF - maybe the Cubs should try to give him a long look to help out in RF?

 

There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Jul 22, 2007 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually...
I'm actually caddying for some Devil Rays players tomorrow just outside of the DC area, as they're in town to play the Orioles. Just thought I should mention that.  No, I don't know the players yet.

by cubs2234 on Jul 22, 2007 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

who was that total nutjob...
that threatened his family?  was it one of those guys or was it elijah dukes?

by WartburgCub on Jul 22, 2007 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dukes
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jul 22, 2007 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fun speculation--RF??
agree E-Patt tradeable not a great def. player and blocked in OF unless he could play RF?? Is he righty hitter or switch-hitter?

Murton and others could go also but not sure of Crawford's contract status..is he a RF??

Rays often mention seldom do deals so not expecting anything...I liked Huff he never went anywhere until FA I think.

Cubs young OF down below seems a little barren except for Colvin and he's a few years away unless I'm forgetting someone...anyone here have good read on our OF prospects?? I'm not counting Pie...and with Sori locked in LF for next 5-6 years we only have one opening, RF.

by writerinwrigley on Jul 22, 2007 10:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Crawford
Patterson hits left handed --
Crawford plays left field for the Rays -- he could play right for us.
Someone commented about Moore, Fox, and Theriot.
Cubs are not trading Theriot -- not because he is a top flight shortstop but for the reason that we do not have anyone to take his place.
Fox and Moore could be in a package but they would need more for Crawford.
I am sure if they are even thinking about other minor league Cubs, they have their people looking at them.
And the comment about the D-Backs -- that could be the reason the Rays guys are here because they have more viable trade possibilities at the major league level.
The Rays are not interested in guys like Eyre, Ohman, Jones, and others like them.

by ceegeewow on Jul 22, 2007 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't moore and fox
Have to play to be showcased? I doubt a start by Moore on Friday qualifies.

by elgato on Jul 22, 2007 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

think cubs don't want 3 lefty starters
...ideally, altho Marshall and Hill have been pretty good...dangerous to bust up the rotation they've got has been keeping them in games and eating innings, for most part, better than most NL teams.

could see a major-ish off-season deal trading Marshall or Hill for a right-handed pitcher and exchanging prospects..but to do it now quite risky...if Miller can't cut it, no assurance the next guy we call up from minors will be able to make successful transition to starter in a pennant race!!

Miller himself is a risk too...

by writerinwrigley on Jul 22, 2007 10:17 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Scott Oslen...

...let's not trade for him, ever!  However, we could hire him to drive around Ronnie Woo-woo.

First post!

Sometimes I forget to take my meds.

by Marv on Jul 22, 2007 10:22 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Someone over on NSBB...
...transcribed the starting lineup for today off WSCR. I provide it here:

Soriano, LF
Theriot, SS
Fontenot, 2B
Ramirez, 3B
Floyd, RF
DeRosa, 1B
Jones, CF
Kendall, C
Marshall. P

I make no warranties guaranteed or implied about the accuracy of this.

I guess this is the club's way of saying that Floyd, Pagan and Fontenot all hit better than Scott Moore. In which case I don't know why they called him up to start a game, maybe two if he gets the start tomorrow.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Jul 22, 2007 10:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

theres
no game tomorrow n id like to see cedeno take moore's spot cuz d. lee will be back for tuesday.

by china423 on Jul 22, 2007 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

like it
good to see floyd back out there need another big bat..why not hit him 3rd though?

kendall due, overdue, to do smething...does he have a hit as cub yet??

by writerinwrigley on Jul 22, 2007 10:58 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nope.
He has a walk, though.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Jul 22, 2007 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

0-8 with a walk...
in other words, he's been more of the same as Bowen.

Hopefully, he settles in and can hit .250ish the rest of the way, maybe.

by SouthernCub on Jul 22, 2007 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hoping for a win today.
Go get em Sean.

GO CUBS!!!

I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Jul 22, 2007 11:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hoping for a win today.
Me hoping too, Sue...

:-)

"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On MARSHALL Trade...
Every time I think of the Cubs trading a promising, young lefty (and he IS promising) I think of Jamie Moyer.

Anyone else?

It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 22, 2007 11:22 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

not really
I think we already have Lilly for three more years and Hill, so we're good with lefites. Maybe trading Marshall now would be one of the few times we deal when a player is coveted, as opposed to Barrett, Patterson, Farnsworth ...

There's another reason why now probably would be a bad time to trade Marshall. Namely, who would replace him? Miller's trash, and the trade possibilities are pretty bad.

by elgato on Jul 22, 2007 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would probably be Dempster
but I think he's great trade bait for a contender

by JohnM on Jul 22, 2007 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In further analysis...
Marshall has a 2:1 K-BB ratio, and is a full point under the league average era! 3.43
It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 22, 2007 11:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Headed over the yard...
As Al would say this looks like a "chamber of commerce" type day...

Go Cubs!

Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Jul 22, 2007 11:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Keep Marshall
Really are there worse things than having a couple young left handers with an ERA under 4.0 at the back end of your rotation.  Unless we can get a big time player back in return I would think keeping marshall would be best.
Also if the cubs win today they would be 4-1 sans DLee, awesome.
When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 11:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who designs these bobble-heads?
I'm sure the Zambrano doll looks like someone, but not in the least like Carlos.
"Signature must be less than 160 characters" -- Who has a name with 160 characters?

by BlueSox on Jul 22, 2007 11:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Len Kasper
and Brenly each got a bobble head of themselves. I'll be damned if Brenly's wasn't the image of one of the brothers from the John M Smyth commercials.  It was such a reach for this bouncy headed thing to resemble Brenly.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"

by wild bill on Jul 22, 2007 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty bad likeness
the Farnsworth wasn't that close either but better than this, as is Sammy (some of him not so good), Ryno...how was Barrett?

by writerinwrigley on Jul 22, 2007 11:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

-sigh- Kendall...
What week will he get his first Cub hit?

Man, this guy was my favorite Pirate for a time, and a certified "Cub Killer" TM.

What a shell of his former self - cannot throw out a base runner to save his life. Cannot hit now.

But, "he brings leadership and handles the staff well."

C'mon Jason! This is a pennant race now. Please!

It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 22, 2007 11:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not Worth A Diary- Angels Traded Jose Molina...
...to the Yankees for a AA lefty. Sister blog Halos Heaven thinks getting rid of Molina is a great move, but they also think Bill Stoneman's farts don't stink. Since the state of Cub catching has been in flux, I sure wouldn't have minded throwing Jose into the mix, despite what others say. The guy's a good catcher.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Jul 22, 2007 11:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey! The Molinas have
cathing pedigree. That's for certain.
It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 22, 2007 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was a CUB!
I forgot - in 1999.
It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 22, 2007 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs game radio link for the day
mms://71.127.77.19/104 FM

Enjoy!

by AJ on Jul 22, 2007 12:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks
Living outside of Chicago I haven't heard a cubs game on the radio all year.

I'm going through santo withdrawls

When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're welcome
I'll try my best to post a working link everyday.  

by AJ on Jul 22, 2007 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It just isn't right
That a Sunday afternoon game isn't on WGN.

I don't give a crap about the battle of dirty sox.

Tinker to Evers to Chance!

by sanantonecub on Jul 22, 2007 12:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

never again
will i go w/o mlb extra innings. it has been the best 160 bux i have ever spent. i get to watch almost every single game. i love it.
Here comes the nasty leftie to shut it down in the 9th......Clay Rapada!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jul 22, 2007 1:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I couldn't agree more!
Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jul 22, 2007 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i get to watch almost every single game.
Me three...
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wayne Messmer at Wrigley on a Sunday afternoon
All is right in the world.

Except for the lack of WGN :(

Tinker to Evers to Chance!

by sanantonecub on Jul 22, 2007 1:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We have one hot Shortstop today!!
Not you, Theriot ;)
Tinker to Evers to Chance!

by sanantonecub on Jul 22, 2007 1:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I won't claim to disagree
but wasn't she about 13?
"Signature must be less than 160 characters" -- Who has a name with 160 characters?

by BlueSox on Jul 22, 2007 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They did
say they were older than most.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Jul 22, 2007 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its really hard to tell for me anymore.
Anyone under 25 looks 15 to me.
"Signature must be less than 160 characters" -- Who has a name with 160 characters?

by BlueSox on Jul 22, 2007 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its really hard to tell for me anymore.
I hear dat!

When I was in HS, girls wore saddle shoes, pony tails and were about as sexy as a rock...

Nowdays?.....YIKES!!!

"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2-0 Brewers
homerun by Braun, do you all think this guy is a legit threat? I think he's a one hit wonder and will go down the Tony Romo road..
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jul 22, 2007 1:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

3-0 Brewers
Zito 26 pitches 0.2 IP...not looking good :<
When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 1:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

4-0
Sorry
When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cory Hart home run? 4-0!
I really think something is going on in that clubhouse in Milwaukee..
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jul 22, 2007 1:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hmmm
"I really think something is going on in that clubhouse in Milwaukee"

Do you think they picked up some "supplies" from Barry "Balco" bonds

When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just think it is odd that all of their players
even their bench players are playing great every day...
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jul 22, 2007 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on Sean.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Jul 22, 2007 1:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

throw strikes...
"Signature must be less than 160 characters" -- Who has a name with 160 characters?

by BlueSox on Jul 22, 2007 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our young lefties
walk too many guys. Too many!

by louslovechild on Jul 22, 2007 1:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

settle down Marsh
0-2 ends up a walk...shoot
When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 1:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Both Hill and Marshall
are having trouble putting out a hitter on 2 strikes. They both don't have a good pitch to throw on a two strike count. Hitters are fouling off a ton of pitches on two strikes and both Hill and Marshall are ending up walking them.

They need to improve on this pretty soon or we need to get rid of one of them. They are very similar in a lot of ways.

by cubsnlinux on Jul 22, 2007 1:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and that explains
some people labeling them as AAAA pitchers.

They are not fooling anyone with their stuff on most days.

by cubsnlinux on Jul 22, 2007 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

1-2
lets not lose this guy go sean
When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 1:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay Sean...
Enough with this two-out-rally-in-the-1st thing...
(argh)
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 1:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

poop
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Jul 22, 2007 1:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

All this with 2 outs
When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 1:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wow...great start Marshall
1-2 and you still couldn't get the guy out, I don't care throw it the hell down the middle of the plate or something when its 1-2. Its called getting the batter out
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jul 22, 2007 1:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

To marshall's defense
He's thrown some strikes they just keep hitting foul balls
When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's thrown some strikes
Yeah but he gave up a run in the 1st -
And THAT is a sin...(especially on Sunday!)
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In Jackson's AB
he was throwing inside to him on all of the pitches, why not try to throw up and away to mix things up a bit?
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jul 22, 2007 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean
Reynolds
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jul 22, 2007 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neither Shaun nor Rich
seem to have a pitch that the opposition can't foul off over and over.
"Signature must be less than 160 characters" -- Who has a name with 160 characters?

by BlueSox on Jul 22, 2007 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neither Shaun nor Rich
So maybe they should trade 'em both for ONE who does?...

:-)

"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Marshall has more potential than Hill
and if Hill were traded, I wouldn't be as disappointed if Marshall is.
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jul 22, 2007 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if Hill were traded
Actually, I was just goofin...   :-)
But now that you mention it....?
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hill only has two good pitches
fastball and curve and he is already 27. He needs more pitches, and I would do a trade such as Hill and Jones for Griffey, instead of Marshall and Jones for Griffey (if that rumor was really true..)
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jul 22, 2007 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep I agree
and Marshall has a better mound presence.

by cubsnlinux on Jul 22, 2007 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We need 5 SP
IF we trade one of them we would have to get a SP in return because we don't really have a 6th SP, Do we?
When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Possible Replacements
Mateo
Gallagher

Stretches:

Guzman
Miller
Dempster
Cotts

I mean we have pitchers that could fill in

Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jul 22, 2007 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Possible
But are any of those guys you would trust in penant race?  I don't remember how Demp was as a SP but I would rather keep him in the pen, unless we get another good (preferable Left handed) RP.
When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Depends
I wouldn't have trusted Jeff Weaver but he pitched very well. And, Anthony Reyes pitched very well in the World Series and is 0-11 (?) this year.
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jul 22, 2007 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and also
we have Veal, Samardzjia, and Pawelek who could fill in the next few years. And Prior, if he does return, needs a spot.

We'd be fine without Hill, after all we already have another version of him in Sean Marshall. Only Marshall is younger and has a better arsenal of pitches.

Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jul 22, 2007 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True...
But they both would be very good as trade bait since they are probably one of the best SP on the market,  but we don't need to trade them so we better get quite a bit in return.  I.e. I wouldn't mind a 1 to 1 trade for griffey but i wouldn't want to add another prospect to it
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh
I don't see any of those gentlemen providing an upgrade over Hill or Marsh.
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by BlueSox on Jul 22, 2007 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what about a player like
Gabbard from the Red Sox?
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by Chanman25 on Jul 22, 2007 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know anything about Gabbard
I'm sure there's a chance we could get something good for one of them.

I just think you should break them up in the rotation before we trade one of them.

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by BlueSox on Jul 22, 2007 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

none of those options ...
would be an improvement, and some (Guzman, Cotts) won't happen. I wouldn't mind trading Marshall or Hill, but the return would have to be huge for us to take such a hit in the rotation.

by elgato on Jul 22, 2007 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed
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by BlueSox on Jul 22, 2007 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A perfect trade would be to get a pitcher like
Bedard or James Shields from Tampa Bay. I would trade a prospect such as Patterson for Shields. He seems like a really good pitcher.
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jul 22, 2007 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed but....
I think the price might be to high for them.
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

even though he is sucking it up
the point is, here are the options:
  1. Spread Marshall and Hill out in the rotation so they are not together
  2. Trade One of the two pitchers for a pitching prospect or package him for a great RF or SP
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by Chanman25 on Jul 22, 2007 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do agree on splitting them up
They seem to be very similar pitcher so i would like them spread out.  also maybe have them before big Z and lilly so that we can have a pitcher who usually goes deep so that we can have a long outing to rest the bullpen if hill/marshall have a very short outing
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the only problem is
Lilly is kind of, but not exactly like the two pitchers. Its difficult to shuffle them around but a rotation of

Zambrano
Lilly
Marshall
Marquis
Hill

that would be fine with me..

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by Chanman25 on Jul 22, 2007 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the Orioles and Rays
are both notoriously tough to trade with (despite a couple deals with the Cubs in recent years). Buster Olney posted that Livan Hernandez is available. Now THAT would be worth pursuing.

by elgato on Jul 22, 2007 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about trying to pursue
Dontrelle Willis, apparently they are shopping him around. Perhaps trade a couple prospects and a player like Fontenot for him?
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by Chanman25 on Jul 22, 2007 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

According to Comcast
the score is still 0-0
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by BlueSox on Jul 22, 2007 1:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ne' mind
<puts down bong>
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by BlueSox on Jul 22, 2007 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You CANNOT Walk
guys on this team!

Marshall is toast if he can't find his control.

Mush fastball!

It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 22, 2007 1:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Soriano has done ZIP
Since the AllStar Game - three errors, also!
It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 22, 2007 1:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If I remember right,
Sori doesn't have nearly as good stats at home vs. on the road.
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by BlueSox on Jul 22, 2007 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is true
also, since pie got sent back down maybe its effecting him mentally

by INWes44 on Jul 22, 2007 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This argument is weak.
But if it is true..then we have a bigger problem. $136 million + an additional roster spot for a streaky player?

by cubsnlinux on Jul 22, 2007 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe its effecting him mentally
He gets paid WAAAY too much to let something like that happen.

I'm just sayin'...

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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another cold spell
Soriano seems very streaky.   I bet in a week or so he'll be just fine
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to
know what his Batting Average @ Wrigley is?
"...something good has to happen here, you got a catcher at first base and you got a catcher at the plate." -Bob Brenly 9th inning 6/25/07

by TheRamZamDLEE on Jul 22, 2007 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow
Sori is hitting .246 at home, .354 on the road. His average is higher at night, which is either a cause or an effect, I guess.

by elgato on Jul 22, 2007 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yikes!
"...something good has to happen here, you got a catcher at first base and you got a catcher at the plate." -Bob Brenly 9th inning 6/25/07

by TheRamZamDLEE on Jul 22, 2007 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soriano @ Home
.246/.283/.405

I actually thought he was better than that 'til I looked it up just now.  Wow.  Guess Soriano will never suggest "playing two" at home.  LOL.

There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Jul 22, 2007 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

looks like Cliffy plays better...
...on the road as well.
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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was
an ugly swing.
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by TheRamZamDLEE on Jul 22, 2007 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

-ot my
one again one of the -ot boys gets a hit.  They really have been a big reason this team has turned it around
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 1:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey! I wanna be a bat-kid! :-)
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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 1:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

me too
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Jul 22, 2007 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here you go
Unfortunately, you have to be 8-16.  Totally unfair.

http://wgnradio.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31561&Itemid=317

Tinker to Evers to Chance!

by sanantonecub on Jul 22, 2007 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

swing, swing, foul bunt
wow...great AB petit. very strong argument for the DH
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 1:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey hey
the Cubs could win today, if Marshall's arm doesn't turn into goo and fall off.
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by BlueSox on Jul 22, 2007 1:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

at this rate...
he'll have 150 pitches by the 5th!

I don't even know who is long relief now. Petrick?

It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 22, 2007 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Random trade thought
What would you guys think of a Trade for Sosa?  I know won't happen and nobody's talking about it, but I just thought it would be interesting.
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking about wearing a condom ...
then I thought, when's the next time I'll be in Haiti? -- Bad Idea Jeans.

That's an old SNL bit. In other words, trading for Sammy would be a very, very bad idea.

by elgato on Jul 22, 2007 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nay
I liked Sosa when he was a Cub but it was time for him to go when Hendry finally decided to trade him.  I wouldn't want to go back to the old media circus days and the constant Sam - Me trip.

If he was as gracious as say, Ernie Banks or Andre Dawson or someone of that caliber, I'd do it in a heart beat but he's not.

There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Jul 22, 2007 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's get
those bats going.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Jul 22, 2007 2:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wonder if there's a way to get a message
to the clubhouse that Sue will poop them if they don't start hitting...

:-)

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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Frankly...
Sue went to the "Poop" a little early in today's game.
It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 22, 2007 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sue went to the "Poop" a little early
Hey - As far as I'm concerned, Sue's one of the few people I know where her poop don't stink!

:-)

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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nor does she fart
She'll just explode soon.

by Arbusto on Jul 22, 2007 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

omg
hahaha
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Jul 22, 2007 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol
Naw, I wouldn't do that.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Jul 22, 2007 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

4-1 Brewers

SF got on the board
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Guzman
Anybody here word about guzman lately?
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He is done...
Surgery next.
It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 22, 2007 2:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

boys look really flat today.
here's hoping we can win it in dramatic fashion in the ninth.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Jul 22, 2007 2:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They do look
flat. Lately after a loss they pop right back but they don't look to peppy today.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Jul 22, 2007 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they don't look to peppy today
Not to make an excuse - but our boys ARE after all playing their 10th day in a row...

I'm just sayin'...

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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A day
off is probably very much needed.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Jul 22, 2007 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW - Cards are
STILL only 8.5 games out...
It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 22, 2007 2:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

3-1 groundout
lucky
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice inning Sean...
...now lets see some hits...
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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 2:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

MI Theme song
why did they just play the mission impossible theme when at the start of the radio broadcast...is it because kendall is batting?
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gawd,
I hope not.
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by BlueSox on Jul 22, 2007 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

kendal
0-cubs
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow...is that right?!
Len just said that AZ is 5th in the league in ERA?

That explains it a bit I guess...

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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 2:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ONLY PART of the story...
Cubs are #1 in BAA and K's in NL.

BAA and BOPS are as or more important than ERA.

It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 22, 2007 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone see the HL of Sammy
gettin' hit it the head with that pitch yesterday?

Ouch...

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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 2:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Soriano
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Jul 22, 2007 2:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He Hit it to hard...
was santo's explanation for why it wasn't a homerun.
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He Hit it to hard
makes Santo sense...
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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

to high
reminded me of the movei major league
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Darn petit...grrrr
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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 2:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

bet that leaves a mark though
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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

-ot man
hard hit out
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

of course look flat..
when not scoring doubt they get shut out today tho...hoped zito would shut down brewers but that ain't happenin oh well...gotta get some hits strung together!!

by writerinwrigley on Jul 22, 2007 2:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

geez....we got a pitching dual here
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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 2:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

1-2-3
Lets get some runs
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Watching Len and Bob give tribute to Gracie...
makes me glad for Mark that he finally got a WS ring - even if it was with AZ.

He deserved it....

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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 2:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree
One of my favorite old cub players "yea i know not that old".  He always seemed to have a good AB.
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marshall sets into a groove
come on Rammy!
Bring Back Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jul 22, 2007 2:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

4-2 Brew
Lets go SF
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Giants score another
4-2
Tinker to Evers to Chance!

by sanantonecub on Jul 22, 2007 2:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

4-3 now
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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 2:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

4-3 Brewers
despite what the radio guys say
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yea...
They really need tomarrow off...and then getting DLee back tuesday, maybe they could make a trade for tuesday to, say a RF
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

must be an echo in here... :-)
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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 2:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What a strike zone today
It's all over the damn place. On top of that, he hesitates a count or two before calling some strikes, and when he does make the call the pitch is 6" off the corner.

by scotteboy on Jul 22, 2007 2:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

maybe the ump is in trouble with the mob
o wait this isn't the NBA nevermind
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pie and Murton are due
You know what?  I've been browsing the minor league stats and I honestly think that if we released JJ and recalled Murton and Pie - that would be all the moves we need to make to make this team go.   Murton is batting .328, Pie is batting .364 and they both have something to prove.  Both have gotten "some" time in the majors and know exactly what to expect.  Both have been killing it in the minors and are ready to do the same in the majors, but thats just my humble opinion.  Truthfully, Pie's defense in center and Murton's bat in right makes A LOT of sense to me.  Pie's bat WILL come.  

by cubsonWGN4ever on Jul 22, 2007 2:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think we should release JJ
we should trade him for some value...maybe we can fleece the pirates like in '03
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if we released JJ
Yeah...THAT makes sense...

not...

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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

doesnt have to be a flat-out release
He just needs to be taken out of the roster somehow so there can be room for youngsters WITH SOMETHING TO PROVE.  JJ's been in the game for long enough that he should know how to adjust, but because he hasn't and continues to make the feeble attempts at the plate that he does, he needs to go.  

IMO only one or two of the hits that he got over the last few days were legit - the others just barely squeaked by.  

by cubsonWGN4ever on Jul 22, 2007 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Murton
It was more Murton's glove that got him sent down than his bat.  Too many dropped flyballs and poor throws from right.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)

by cubfred on Jul 22, 2007 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Murton is not a good solution for us in RF
He is no more than a contact hitter and we can't have a singles hitting player with below average defense manning our RF. We need a power hitter in RF .

by cubsnlinux on Jul 22, 2007 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Murton + Jones + PTBNL for ???
we could trade the PTBNL from pittsburgh with murton and jones for a RF. maybe Griffey or X.Nady?
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would do that for Griffey or Nady..
but I doubt if Pittsburgh would agree.

by cubsnlinux on Jul 22, 2007 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pie has 5 homeruns in the last 10 games
and Murton has 3 in the last 10 games - thats more power than our entire team has had over the last 10 games

by cubsonWGN4ever on Jul 22, 2007 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I heard on the radio...
That if we used the Icubs linup with the ChiCubs pitching we would be better than the royals/Bucc's  seems pretty cool to me
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

more power than our entire team has had
Uh...yeah...
only the small difference that those are MINOR league stats...
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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you seen how Rich Hill
dominated the minors? There is a huge difference between AAA pitching staff and the Major leaguers. Even if Pie hits 15 more Home Runs he won't stand a chance in Chicago unless he is comfortable with the breaking balls.

by cubsnlinux on Jul 22, 2007 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which means he has to get playing time
in the majors for him to get comfortable.
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by BlueSox on Jul 22, 2007 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No offense
but the D-backs are also pretty flat. Game's well in reach, pending a small rally.

by JohnM on Jul 22, 2007 2:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

come on sean
don't get yourself in trouble with 2 outs
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So
according to Gameday, three of the four balls called on Hudson were actually strikes.
"I lof to hit de home ron!"

by Tekboy on Jul 22, 2007 2:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah,
but one day last week, they had a batter getting hit by the pitch 3 times in one AB.

Wildly inaccurate.

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by BlueSox on Jul 22, 2007 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

deep sigh
fly out no damage
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There ya go....
Bob just mentioned the no mistakes made by Petite...

So maybe that means that now he WILL...
make some mistakes...

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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 2:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

KENDALL GETS A HIT!
First in blue pinstripes!
Tinker to Evers to Chance!

by sanantonecub on Jul 22, 2007 2:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Kendall got a hit
so he finally has a batting average as a cub
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well hey
you throw enough darts you'll get a bullseye i suppose.
"...something good has to happen here, you got a catcher at first base and you got a catcher at the plate." -Bob Brenly 9th inning 6/25/07

by TheRamZamDLEE on Jul 22, 2007 2:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

well our top of order leads off next inning
good job kendall
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Top of the lineup next inning
With a Rookie who will be throwing his 85+ pitch.

Now is our chance to drill these guys into the ground.

by Joe on Jul 22, 2007 2:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

random fact via history channel
most delivery pizza orders in one day...1994 the day OJ was aquited
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to make a number of people feel old...
And tell you that I was in middle school

by Arbusto on Jul 22, 2007 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you very little :P
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by BlueSox on Jul 22, 2007 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm in middle school NOW
Oh. Hang on -- I meant middle AGE

by JohnM on Jul 22, 2007 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was in high school
wasnt that in 1995?
We will see some beautiful things come the fall.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Jul 22, 2007 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bases loaded for the brewers
1 out weeks at the plate
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ditto
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gynormous
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by BlueSox on Jul 22, 2007 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Santo
respectfully disagrees with that ball
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 3:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

6-3
hardy singles 2 runs score
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 3:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

7-3
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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 3:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Zito's PISSED...
He's tagged with all 7 of the MIL runs...

hehehe

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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think now it is safe to assume a MIL Win .
Now we got to put some runs on the board and beat the DBacks.

by cubsnlinux on Jul 22, 2007 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yesssss
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by BlueSox on Jul 22, 2007 3:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Big Big..K for Marshall..
lead off double doesn't score ..Phewwwww

by cubsnlinux on Jul 22, 2007 3:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

K 3-outs
Top of order...lets go
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 3:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank Goodness
Way to battle Marshall!  Let's explode on offense now.
There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Jul 22, 2007 3:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Especially since he's likely done
This is a lot of pitches for him, isn't it?

by Arbusto on Jul 22, 2007 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think so.
They may run him out to start the 7th perhaps?  The lineup isn't set for a good double switch here unless the offense can get to the bottom of the order.
There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Jul 22, 2007 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good job by Marshall
Lets get some runs!!
We will see some beautiful things come the fall.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Jul 22, 2007 3:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This might make some people mad
but I think Marshal is more of a gamer than Hill and if we are forced to trade one of the two I would move Hill over Marshal.

by Joe on Jul 22, 2007 3:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Marshall/Hill
I think Marshall has a better head than Hill and it's harder to get to Marshall.  But I think Hill has better pitches.

by Arbusto on Jul 22, 2007 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

other teams call
I think that the difference between them is probably small enough that if one of the was traded it would be which ever the other team likes best
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When he's "on"
I agree - I like Hill's best stuff better than Marshall's.   But either one is going to have to develop another pitch to be successful in the bigs over the long term, and I think it may come down to which one of them can accomplish this the soonest.

my 2 cents

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by BlueSox on Jul 22, 2007 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

...that was mentioned further up the board,
Xactly.
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by BlueSox on Jul 22, 2007 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was trying to use your post
and make it run into mine.

As in: Yes, the second pitch that was mentioned up the post is exactly what I mean.

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by BlueSox on Jul 22, 2007 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another Soriano out on 1 pitch..
Speaking of wasting 136 million

by cubsnlinux on Jul 22, 2007 3:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hardly
Tuesaday he'll crack 3 homeruns, have 2 outfield assists and you'll say he's a bargain

by Arbusto on Jul 22, 2007 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I won't
if he goes into his shell again for two more weeks. I would love to see him spread those 3 Home Runs around 3-4 games.

by cubsnlinux on Jul 22, 2007 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That fan shoulda slapped that ball away...
it was over the fence...
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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 3:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I sat there
Back in May.  I would of taken the ball from him :)
Tinker to Evers to Chance!

by sanantonecub on Jul 22, 2007 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

way to bounce back Sean!
impressive strikeout...now let's get to petit

by PrincetonCubs on Jul 22, 2007 3:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

gamespot
pu the called strike and the ball at the same place
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 3:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It looks like the geriatric sqaud in
Milwaukee forgot to take their Celebrex today.

by Joe on Jul 22, 2007 3:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I still think a couple hard hits strung together
would rock Petit's confidence...

But it's looking like our best chance right now is to get to their BP

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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 3:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

this is about as exciting
as an insurance convention. I don't have a problem with pitching duels, but our offense needs to wake up.

by elgato on Jul 22, 2007 3:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

our offense needs to wake up.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, what happend to our O the last 2 games?
This is becoming embarrassing.

by Joe on Jul 22, 2007 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We are even having all this conversation
about Hill Vs Marshall because the offense has been pathetic and that puts the pitcher in spot light.

With Lee, Ward and Floyd healthy I think our power is adequate but if one of them is out (for more than a couple of games) I think this team is susceptible to fall.

by cubsnlinux on Jul 22, 2007 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sigh
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 3:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Great...Marmol does a Howry immitation
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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 3:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sue...?
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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

crap
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Jul 22, 2007 3:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's my girl.... :-)
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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well...
we better find some offense in a hurry
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 3:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well this was a fun game to watch.
I'm going to go mow the lawn.

I don't need to see the cubs go down in order 9 straight times and lose 2-0.

So much for them being a hot team.

I really miss Lee.

by Joe on Jul 22, 2007 3:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

7-4 brewers
Think the old guys can find 4 more runs?
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 3:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Appears the entire offense is struggling!
Maybe it's just good pitching against us.  Too bad since our pitching has been so good.  

by Saratoga on Jul 22, 2007 3:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

marmol's struggling
4 pitch walks grrr
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 3:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Marmol is
struggling today. I kind of feel like they are playing.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Jul 22, 2007 3:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

kind of feel like they are playing
poopy?  
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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually
sluggish, kind of don't really give a crap way.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Jul 22, 2007 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, his arm does not impress.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Jul 22, 2007 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His arm, his bat
dropping foul tips...

What does he do well anymore???

It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 22, 2007 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if this is a knee-jerk reaction but..
I think we need to find another bat
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 3:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's a good thing were
getting a look at Jake Fox.
"...something good has to happen here, you got a catcher at first base and you got a catcher at the plate." -Bob Brenly 9th inning 6/25/07

by TheRamZamDLEE on Jul 22, 2007 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea
and moore too
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

o no
Eyre stole Marmols body
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 3:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Eyre stole Marmols body
invasion of the Cubbie-snatchers!
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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if Byrnes if on the table
it doesn't seem like they are going to keep him
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 3:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well...I never say never....BUT....
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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 3:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

but...
the cubs haven't shown any signs of life today at the plate
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fergie...um...talk about blowing the count!
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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 3:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think that was
the FASTEST (record time?) I have ever seen the "take me out" 7th stretch sung....

Am I right?

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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ditka
"...something good has to happen here, you got a catcher at first base and you got a catcher at the plate." -Bob Brenly 9th inning 6/25/07

by TheRamZamDLEE on Jul 22, 2007 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No...I saw Ditka....
THIS was faster by far...
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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoops
Al, hold up your cue cards a little higher, will ya?
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by BlueSox on Jul 22, 2007 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

D. Lee...
Bad time for him to take his suspension....
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by ronsanto10 on Jul 22, 2007 3:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

but he was hurt
lets see if he comes back strong tuesday,  and would they're have been a good time for us not to have dlee?
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, one thing is clear
the cubs have to do something to stop the running game. lou has to start running the show with a man on, calling the throw overs, the statue of liberty plays, etc.

teams are running on us at will. not good.

"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Jul 22, 2007 3:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yuck
but it's only the top of the 7th...still got a lot of baseball to play, and it's only three runs.  they've got a shot

by PrincetonCubs on Jul 22, 2007 3:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

they've got a shot
Atta boy princeton...Here Here!
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by Bluelou on Jul 22, 2007 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

man, i hope they refresh themselves tomorrow.
cause the cardinals are going to be playing for their lives.
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by buckmulligan on Jul 22, 2007 3:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

IF single by rameriz
ok lets put some hits together
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 3:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

reached on error
sorry
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

boy, a 7 or 8 run seventh
would sure look good about now.
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by buckmulligan on Jul 22, 2007 3:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

a run would look good now
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would settle
for any signs of life at the plate
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

men on the corners no out for SF
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 3:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

like to see a bases loaded, no out situation
here.
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by buckmulligan on Jul 22, 2007 3:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd like
to win the Power Ball too.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Jul 22, 2007 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

7-5 brewers
one on 2 outs
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 3:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

come on JJ
put a good swing on it
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by jds2 on Jul 22, 2007 3:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs