I don't know.  They just don't seem that consistent to me.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/fun-and-games-in-the-nl-central/

when i do attend, it seems that no matter where i end up sitting, i always find myself asking 'why did i get seats by this d-bag?'  after i while, i realized that wrigley is always inhabited by a small but vocal contingent of d-bags on a daily basis (as with every stadium, no doubt).  

while i completely understand this represents a very small proportion of those in attendance, it is enough to keep me away a majority of the time.  i'm all down for having some beers, having a great time, and rooting on the cubs, but come on.  i realize that a forum like this is preaching to the choir, but perhaps if we as fans take a stand as well... we can help curb some of this inexcusable behavior.

What I find troubling as well is the language. This goes hand in hand with the consumption of booze. I at times have politely asked some to please refrain from this noise pollution. Normally I will be with my son of 16, but there are ladies and other young ones that should not be subjected to that language. There I got it off my chest.

All I have to say is as red blooded, meat eating American: that kicks ass.

Vick is a dirt bag that should be thrown in jail.  Losing his job should be the least of his problems.

The bleachers have been a problem pretty much since 1985, the year you could start buying Bleacher tickets in advanced. Die hards who would spend the morning waiting in linetalking baseball were replaced by hipster frat boy doofus patrols that have been drinking at Cubbie Bear,Murphy's, Sluggers,etc.

 Of course tickets have also gone from $6 to the most expensive ticket in the house and it's not like it's called the "Bud Light Upper Deck" ( well,not yet anyway....) So it's not like things are going to change interms of alcahol. Which is too bad because it'seasy too see the average person in the bleachers over serves.

  Too me it should be a privelage to sit there, and every time these clowns fight or litter the field with garbage, I'd close the bleachers the next day. Of course, it's easy for me to say that,it's not my money.

 You can triple security, but if everyone's reaction to some asswipe throwing garbage on the field is to cheer himand join him, ratherthan pointing the jerk out to security,does it really matter?

A baseball game should not be a high-society event for only the wealthy and religious.  Think about its origins as respite for the working class, with cigars, drinking and cussing nearly inherent to being a committed fan.  Of course there have always been kids.  I think that's the age most of us all fell in love with this game.  So a kid hears a dirty word.  Is someone gonna have to drive him to the hospital now?  To reiterate, I fundamentally fail to understand how mere language is going to harm someone.

As for the idea of limiting the amount one can drink to some number - this is something I cannot defend.  I'm not saying over serving is a good idea, but that is a subjective analysis.  One person may be over served at 2 whereas another is over served at 10.  I don't think that people should be forced to adhere their consumption to some arbitrary number, which will just cause the binge drinking phenomenon to exacerbate before the game.  So it's not unreasonable to request more attentiveness on the behalf of servers.  

And the idea of no beer in the bleachers at all, as Al claims Yankee stadium has, just turns my stomach.  Are we such animals that we need to be treated like inmates?

Do we really need more security?  Are we as a group really unable to rationally solve our own problems without calling mommy or the warden?  Sure, there are occasions when someone has gone beyond the point of reason and needs to be dealt with, but do we really feel that this is happening enough to warrant more suppressive measures?  I for one do not think so, and since I do not see these sentiments reflected elsewhere, have now felt compelled to share them.

In closing, I beseech the group of thoughtful fans which take the time to post to this site, (as opposed to the tourist element who just show up at games, and clearly represent most of the transgressors we are talking about) not to lobby for more Draconian measures.  Please don't turn my beloved Wrigley Field into a church or a penitentiary.    

Thank you for listening to my opinion.

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