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Mission Accomplished

All you can ask when you go on the road is to win two of three (in the most common of series, the three-game series).

And the Cubs did that in both St. Louis and Cincinnati, completing a series win this afternoon with a convincing 6-0 shutout victory over the Reds.

This despite the fact that:

  • Carlos Zambrano walked the first man he faced, Scott Hatteberg, and that's generally not a good sign for Z. Instead, Z settled down, throwing into the bottom of the 8th with 113 pitches (76 strikes), and added three hits, raising his average to .291, and took over the major league lead in wins with his fourteenth.
  • Alfonso Soriano hit a ball that at first appeared to go into the first row of the left-field seats for a two-run home run in the top of the second inning, only to have it ruled by inveterate Cub-hating umpire Cowboy Joe West a ground-rule double, having been touched by a fan over the wall.
This raises a couple of interesting issues, one of which was touched on by Bob Brenly during the WGN telecast. Bob wondered why, with so many of the new ballparks being built with lower outfield walls (to increase both HR and amazing leaping catches to rob HR), there isn't a gap between the wall and the first row.

This makes a lot of sense to me. They have such a "moat" between the OF wall and the first row of the outfield seats at the Cell. I have sat in the first row of the left-field bleachers there many times, and there's about a six-foot gap between the wall and the seats (that's probably not obvious to you if you have only seen the Cell on TV). It doesn't interfere with your view of the game, and instead keeps fans from interfering with the game itself.

I'd recommend that every one of the new ballparks do this. There are far too many of these interference calls these days. Let the players play the game. About Soriano's ball, the WGN replays were inconclusive as to whether the fan touched the ball when it was already over the wall or not -- but apparently, the replays on FSN Ohio were a bit more obvious, and even the Reds announcers acknowledged that it was probably a HR.

And I love Z, but he wasn't running very hard on the play. Had he done so, the umpires might have allowed him to score (which they had the discretion to do if they felt he might have scored had the ball hit high off the wall).

The other issue this raises is "instant replay", which has been discussed regarding pretty much all pro sports for as long as videotape has been available. As you know, the NFL uses it in limited amounts. There are a couple of problems with using it in baseball: let's say a team appeals through replay. What sort of penalty could be assessed (in the NFL, a team losing an appeal loses a timeout) if they don't win the appeal? Further, baseball games are already slowed down by the increasing number of mid-inning pitching changes, walks, and longer TV commercial breaks. To slow games down by asking for replays is asking for the average length of a game to start pushing three hours (it's now about 2:45 or so).

I haven't been in favor of replay in the past and I'm really hesitant to endorse it now, even in the face of a call that might have been wrong today, and several other recent well-publicized bad calls. For example, I think it'd have to be banned for arguing ball/strike calls. If you had it, it'd have to be severely limited -- say, a limit of one "replay appeal" per team per game -- and only on calls like the one today, or maybe things like fair-foul HR calls, and like the NFL does, it'd have to be conclusive evidence on the replay before it overturned the ruling on the field.

In the end, none of the controversy mattered today; Aramis Ramirez' double and a sacrifice fly by Mark DeRosa gave the Cubs a 2-0 lead before Z threw a single pitch, which would have been enough, and then Derrek Lee homered for the second day in a row (and his third HR on the road trip, and fifth in eleven games since the All-Star break). The Cubs tacked on a couple of ninth-inning runs to put an exclamation point on the day, and on the road trip.

Can we finally stop worrying about D-Lee's HR power? I think it's back.

Will Ohman and "Good" Bob Howry finished up the game uneventfully, with Mike Fontenot making a nice diving stop for the game's last out.

At this writing the Brewers are leading the Cardinals, so unless there's a comeback by St. Louis, the Cubs will return home 1.5 games behind Milwaukee in the NL Central (two games closer than when they left on the trip), and could move to within one game of the wild-card lead if the Braves can salvage their final game against the D'backs in Arizona today.

And so the Cubs return home seven games over .500, to take on two good teams from the NL East in a tough test; they are the only team in the NL Central with a winning record on the road, and surely would like to improve on the 27-24 record they have compiled at home so far (17-7 since June 3). Going 5-2 on the upcoming homestand would, I think, be called for.

And about any deals to be made before Tuesday's deadline -- we've heard a ton of rumors, including rumors about why Matt Murton and Jay Payton weren't playing today -- but in the end, maybe the best moves are the ones you don't make. The Cubs are 33-17 since June 2 (Len noted on the telecast that in 2006, when the Cubs won their 55th game of the season -- on September 1, they had seventy-nine losses, compared to 48 today). Keep up the good work. Onward to tomorrow.

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LOL
You must be on a delay. I waited till the last out was posted!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 29, 2007 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Must be.....
Your post said 3:16 and the clock on my computer said 3:08. Good summary of the game. Its funny how your outlook can change 180 degrees in less than 48 hours.

by LT on Jul 29, 2007 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we win tomorrow and Tuesday
If we win tomorrow and Tuesday and Brewers lose today or Tuesday we go into August tied for first.

Okay quick poll

Does the fact that they started off so badly and looked only slightly better than a group of BCB all stars would make this sweeter?

And I think most here would appreciate this.

My brother did some work on my computer and now if I put in minorleaguebasbeall.com the white sox website comes up and some errors now pop up "You can't do this because the computer hates Cub fans"

I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 29, 2007 3:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate saying this
But Go Cardinals!!!

Question:  The Brewers have tomorrow off while we play.  IF Milwaukee loses today, that puts Milwaukee a half game away.  IF that happens AND IF Chicago wins monday, we would technically be tied.  Would our great scoreboard operators change the flags for us??

Tinker to Evers to Chance!

by sanantonecub on Jul 29, 2007 3:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

On Wait til Next year
On the HBO Special Wait til next year they tell the story of the fans in 67 staying until they changed the flags.
I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 29, 2007 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is why I raise the question
I want it to happen again!!!
Tinker to Evers to Chance!

by sanantonecub on Jul 29, 2007 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ill be there tomorrow
I'll be there tomorrow and maybe I can start a CHANGE THE FLAGS chant.

Another board is wondering too what kind of reception Wood will get when he comes into a game the first time off the DL.

I think the place will go bananas.

I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 29, 2007 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We gave Kendall a standing ovation
I think the place will go crazy for Wood, ESPECIALLY if he performs well.  A curtain call for an average performance wouldn't be out of the question.
Tinker to Evers to Chance!

by sanantonecub on Jul 29, 2007 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You think Kendall got a reception
Can you imagine what would happen if we got Griffey or another major name?

I was there the day Nomar arrived.  I got my hearing back last Tuesday.

I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 29, 2007 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah... we did give Kendall a standing O
It was a fun moment. Would love to be there when Kerry comes back!
1-RUN GAMES = 14-17 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-6 | HOME = 27-24 | updated on 7/27

by SackMan on Jul 29, 2007 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will not root for the Cards
We have plenty of time to catch the Brewers.

Better for us if the Cards believe they are out of it at the deadline and trade off players.

Plus, I rooted for the Cards all day yesterday and I still don't have the taste out of my mouth. I can't do it again.

by lancaster99 on Jul 29, 2007 3:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Tomorrow
I expect to wake up tomorrow a tall man of a different race.

Becoming a different gender and a different race is less of a radical change for me than rooting for the Cardinals is.

I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Jul 29, 2007 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cards in it?
I think it's better for the cards to think they're still in it and NOT dump any players before the deadline.  Any moves they make would likely improve their long-term prospects at the expense of a few wins this season.  I'm happier with a weak, aging club NOT picking up any young talent this season...
Aramis Ramirez = Captain Comeback!

by 26.2cubfan on Jul 29, 2007 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No
Those pieces of filth won the World Series after an 83-win season.

I want them eliminated as soon as possible. I do not trust them to just roll over and die.

In the immortal words of Al Capone:

I want them DEAD!
I want their families DEAD!
I want their houses BURNED TO THE GROUND!
I want to go there in the middle of the night and PSSS on their ASHES!

(Relax, people. It was only a movie.)

by lancaster99 on Jul 29, 2007 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL
But seriously, I am rooting for them until the end of today's game. But that's all.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 29, 2007 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel the same way
Even though the Cards are some 7 games back right now, I'd rather see them in even deeper water.  We will most likely go back and forth with the Brewers for the rest of the year.  I'd rather it be a two way race than potentially a three team race.  (and if you think 7 games back is buried I'd remind you that the Cubs were 7.5 back less than two months ago)

I made this point a day or two ago and got hit over the head with one of santoswoodenlegs

by El Borto on Jul 29, 2007 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The difference is that the St Louis
pitching staff is terrible, and they are depending on people like a worn out Edmonds to be a big part of their offense. They won't be there at the end even if they win today. I agree though, after today I hope they lose every game...

by LT on Jul 29, 2007 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

very entertaining
what a game and what a weekend. man going back to work on mondays isnt so bad after the cubs play like this. from the replays i saw that was a homerun. joe west didnt seem to move from what i saw. anyways guess it doesnt matter now but he seems to love controversy. i'd still like to know what the deal was in the 1st inning with the ump and hatteburg. go cards its 5-4 now.
Here comes the nasty leftie to shut it down in the 9th......Clay Rapada!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jul 29, 2007 3:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cards in a one run game!
And Al, at Turner Field they also have one of those gaps in between the first row and the wall.
Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jul 29, 2007 3:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just to throw some gas on the Joe West fire
a few of his career highlights, courtesy of his Wikipedia page:

Career highlights
May 9, 1984: West ejected two television cameramen from Shea Stadium when they allowed the Mets to view replays of a controversial play at the plate in which Hubie Brooks was called out. The Mets won the game against Atlanta 3-1, with Ron Darling getting the win.

July 23, 1991: After Cincinnati pitcher Rob Dibble threw a ball at Cub Doug Dascenzo and was thrown out of the game, West was bumped by Cubs Andre Dawson; Dawson was suspended for one game and fined $1000.

1990: NL president Bill White was prepared to suspend umpire Joe West for slamming Philadelphia pitcher Dennis Cook to the field, but commissioner Fay Vincent intervened and no discipline was imposed.

"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 29, 2007 3:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I believe...
...there's a simple solution to replay.  Have a 5th umpire who is watching the replays.  He can signal the home plate umpire if a call was conclusively wrong or the crew chief could request that a play be reviewed.  This cannot be used for balls and strikes.  It should only be used in determining whether or not a ball was a homerun, if a ball was fair or foul, or on safe/out calls.  

by jolietconvict on Jul 29, 2007 3:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Or...
Don't allow fat meglomaniacs to umpire games. Make these guys submit to physical fitness standards and make their reviews public. Enough with the pseudo-sanctity of the baseball umpire. If guys like West and Froemming and Poncino insist on making themselves such a big part of the game, let them. Publish their stats, too. Talk about them on sports shows, write about them in columns, and publicly castigate them for every bad performance.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 29, 2007 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no need
for replay, if he did his job which was run out as far as he can and get a good look at the play he would have seen that it was a hr. i understand everyone's human and mistakes are gonna happen but i think umpires should be held accountable for their mistakes. that coulda very well been a game changing call.
Here comes the nasty leftie to shut it down in the 9th......Clay Rapada!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jul 29, 2007 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

need
when you said " i understand everyone's human and mistakes are gonna happen".  doesn't that give credence to replay.  football uses it. basketball uses it in a limited role.  why can't baseball.  The bottom line is getting the call right we have the technology why not use it.  I realize that this may cause a delay but really baseball isn't a fast moving sport i don't think the speed of the game will be altered that much.
When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 29, 2007 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It apparently is not an ISSUE w/Al
or the other "Not Bruce Froemming" poster

as if the incompetence is "ok b/c we won the game":

Sheesh.
Even when we're winning 4-0 you can find something to complain about.

Yes, it might be 6-0. Z's been dominant. Why complain?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sunday, July 29, 2007 at 2:21 PM CT
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Because
with some people, it's "I bitch, therefore I am."

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sunday, July 29, 2007 at 2:23 PM CT
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"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

Why complain, Al? How about the chance that if the Reds score more runs, the runs our home team scored which were taken off the board would have had a dramatic impact in the standings. How about, the fact that three broadcasters said West was out of position to make the call? How about the fact that the quality of umpiring is deteriorating? It was clearly a HR. How can you sit amicably about after watching this as well as ball-strike inconsistancies this year and just shrug your shoulders, and say, "it doesn't matter because we won."

IMO, I would like to see a stringent review board such as the NFL has so there would be penalties enforced on these guys. Also, I realize that some of these guys are obese, but how are they honestly expected to get in the right position to get a call right that may require movement to do so?

It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 29, 2007 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

heres another thought
maybe all the talk about steriods etc is hiding the fact the umpires are betting on the game. one ref has already been busted in the nba. who's to say it isnt happening in the mlb. to be fair i will use this example--in yesterdays's game one of the red's pitchers threw strike 3 right down the pipe and a ball was called. two pitches later the cub hitter hit the ball down the rf line for a double. i'm seeing more and more of these terrible umps in the mlb. i think they oughtta be held responsible for blown calls. as it stands now their right, everyone else is wrong no matter what.
Here comes the nasty leftie to shut it down in the 9th......Clay Rapada!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jul 29, 2007 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm all for this solution.
And it won't delay the games any moree than the endless arguments between managers and umpires that we see nowadays.

by Fraggin Judge on Jul 29, 2007 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

come on....
chris duncan....hit it out of the park!
next year is here!

by bendacub on Jul 29, 2007 3:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Choke job
Cards leave the bases loaded with one out in the 7th. This is a pretty entertaining game, but I wish they could both lose somehow...

by LT on Jul 29, 2007 4:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and that my friends is why St Louis sucks
they have a putrid offense..
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jul 29, 2007 4:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Riiiight...
because the Cubs always score whenever they have someone on third with less than 2 outs. Must be the only team in the major leagues to have a 100% conversion rate, good for you.

by FriendlyCardFan on Jul 29, 2007 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Debbie Downer
wah-wahhhhhhhhhhhhh

by LT on Jul 29, 2007 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no...
bases loaded one out...no runs
stupid redbirds
stupid jim edmonds
When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 29, 2007 4:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I remember
A time not long ago when that represented the Cubs offense.
Tinker to Evers to Chance!

by sanantonecub on Jul 29, 2007 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes...
and that was pretty much my thoughts then too
When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 29, 2007 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

effin Cards
bases loaded, one out, no runs.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Jul 29, 2007 4:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rolen makes a great play
turns a double play while braun got confused not realizing that a hit to the third baseman is usually caught
When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 29, 2007 4:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Prove me wrong Cards lol
score another run..
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jul 29, 2007 4:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

awright- here we go!
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Jul 29, 2007 4:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no outs
runners on 1st and 3rd
Here comes the nasty leftie to shut it down in the 9th......Clay Rapada!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jul 29, 2007 4:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Im watching Brewers TV
Do our TV guys sound like just as big of homers as these guys

by louslovechild on Jul 29, 2007 4:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Mostly....
Just be glad we don't have to listen to Buck.

by LT on Jul 29, 2007 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Cowboy" Joe West ?
Al,

How on God's green earth did you ever discover this guy sung country music and had a website to boot?

Just when you think you've seen just about eveything there is on the internet here comes singing Cowboy Joe!

by JFCubFan on Jul 29, 2007 4:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's been public knowledge for years.
Broadcasters talk about it often.

by MiniAndretti on Jul 29, 2007 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh yeah
tie ballgame
Here comes the nasty leftie to shut it down in the 9th......Clay Rapada!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jul 29, 2007 4:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Tie game
maybe it will stay tied for another 10 innings or so...

by LT on Jul 29, 2007 4:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rolen!
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Jul 29, 2007 4:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There's the Turnbow we are used to seeing!
tie game!
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jul 29, 2007 4:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

why aren't they pinch running for molina?
you would think go ahead run might be good to score
When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 29, 2007 4:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

While I agree....
and we would've scored there had we pinch ran for him, you great a huge defensive liability for the rest of the game. Molina negates any running game by the opposition, and our backup Gary Bennett has a horrid arm.

by FriendlyCardFan on Jul 29, 2007 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

great = create

by FriendlyCardFan on Jul 29, 2007 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fair enough
I just think with 1 inning left...
but i have never managed a WS champion
When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 29, 2007 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hit it in the outfeild...
or right at ryan braun
When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 29, 2007 4:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

YES!
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Jul 29, 2007 4:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

6-5!
yay!
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jul 29, 2007 4:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I can't wait for next week
cheering for the cards just feels dirty
When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 29, 2007 4:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

6-5 with bases loaded
and Pujols up.  This could get ugly.

by SuperContext on Jul 29, 2007 4:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

CLEARS THEM!!!!
Ok. No more cheering for the Cards.

by louslovechild on Jul 29, 2007 4:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Working 9-5
Poo hole just drove in 3 but got out with some bad base running. 1/2 game behind about to happen....

by LT on Jul 29, 2007 4:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

allright poo-holes
now start slumping
When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 29, 2007 4:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bang! 9 to 5 Cardinals
Might we hear, "Change the flags!" "Change the flags!" tomorrow night?

Tim

by ttagaris on Jul 29, 2007 4:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

GO CARDS!
unwraveling Brewers..
'07 Postseason: Bears, Bulls... Cubs?

by stelmodad on Jul 29, 2007 4:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

By The Time
I go to bed tomorrow night, we could be in first place!  Life, for now, is good.
And so it goes.

by Luigi on Jul 29, 2007 4:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Tomorrow
FIRST PLACE!

by Josh77 on Jul 29, 2007 4:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Poo-holes just got his MBA...
from the Jacque Jones Base Running School.  That was the final exam.  :-)
Soriano: rub two of those big bats together and you will catch fire!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 29, 2007 4:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is gameday right?
Did Prince cover 3rd on that play and tag out Pujols?  I'd like to see that highlight... RUN FATBOY RUN!
Aramis Ramirez = Captain Comeback!

by 26.2cubfan on Jul 29, 2007 4:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He was the cut-off for the throw from LF
took the ball and caught Albert between 2nd and 3rd.
'07 Postseason: Bears, Bulls... Cubs?

by stelmodad on Jul 29, 2007 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

0.5!!
soon!
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jul 29, 2007 4:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bonds leads off the next 1/2
Going to break now ... for those flipping back and forth.

by ttagaris on Jul 29, 2007 4:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Milwaukee Brewers...
...they are who we thought they were.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 29, 2007 4:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what a collapse.
Since their hot April start of starting the season 24-10, the Brewers are 33-39 since.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Jul 29, 2007 4:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sheets hurts
but they just lost him a couple weeks ago.

The Brewers were hot in April and that's it. Mediocre the rest of the way.

Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Jul 29, 2007 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm
no sheet.
"You're fired." - Dallas Green to Billy Connors while Billy was staying in the hospital.

by jdoolsiu on Jul 29, 2007 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A brief commentary
As I look up and down the thread, I have to ask those who turned from the Cub win to the Brewers game ... does it get any better than this?

I don't know what's going to happen the rest of the way, but this is a lot of fun.

Although the stakes were much higher then, it reminded me for a brief moment of the Cub losing the final game of the season at Houston and immediately flipping back to see Neifi Perez hit the game winning homer for the Rockies against San Francisco.  Then immediately grabbing all the cash we had at our U of I apartment and sprinting down the street (passing other runners as if they were standing still) to the nearest ticketmaster location.

Then getting 46 tickets to the one game playoff .. which is another story.

Tim

by ttagaris on Jul 29, 2007 4:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

seriously.
wow....this is a blast!
next year is here!

by bendacub on Jul 29, 2007 4:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Brewers announcers were crying about
how this 2-6 road trip could have easily been 4-5 wins.  Sounds like Len & Bob in April/May.  You can't be talking like that in August and September.

Go Cubs!  Take no prisoners!!

Soriano: rub two of those big bats together and you will catch fire!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 29, 2007 4:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow!
.5!! I'm loving it!
Hey Chicago Waddya Say? The Cubs are gunna win today!- Steve Goodman

by aduck6992 on Jul 29, 2007 4:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

YES!!!!
Thank you St. Louis! We can be in first place tomorrow night!

by cubbie71 on Jul 29, 2007 4:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lilly please...
pitch well tomorrow and shut out Hamels!
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jul 29, 2007 4:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That bottom of 9th was fast
I think the Brewers just wanted to get out of town as fast as possible.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Jul 29, 2007 4:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Whoops, top, rather.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Jul 29, 2007 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Brewers have lost more games than us!!
we just win all the rest of the games and we get the division lol
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jul 29, 2007 4:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Brewers are choking on their bratwurst!
Incredible choke job against teams they seemingly could have beaten....but maybe they just can't hang with our Cubbies!!!!! Oh, and the Cards announcers are all talking about the Redbirds being back in the  hunt....dudes, check your pitching staff!

by razzpunk on Jul 29, 2007 4:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

R.I.P.
2007 milwaukee brewers
Here comes the nasty leftie to shut it down in the 9th......Clay Rapada!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jul 29, 2007 4:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

As hard as it was
for me to cheer for the Cardinals, that was a great comeback. One-half game back now and perhaps in first place by late tomorrow night. Unfortunately, the Cards aren't out of it either.

by rynofan23 on Jul 29, 2007 5:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

brewers
are off tomorrow. we can hope for a tie atop the leaderboard in the central.

by china423 on Jul 29, 2007 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When We Win
tomorrow, we will be 1/2 game up, alone in first place.

BTW, any cheering for the Cards must stop now, immediately.  Root for anyone who plays the Cards.

And so it goes.

by Luigi on Jul 29, 2007 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ummm
no if we win tommorrow we will be tied for 1st
Here comes the nasty leftie to shut it down in the 9th......Clay Rapada!!!!

by cubsluver22 on Jul 29, 2007 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Percentage
If we win tomorrow we'll be tied in the games-back/ahead column, but we'll be ahead in the loss column and on a percentage basis.  So I'll take first place, thank you very much!
Aramis Ramirez = Captain Comeback!

by 26.2cubfan on Jul 29, 2007 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm telling you people
We do NOT want the Cards to get any momentum.

Face it. They know how to win this kind of thing. We know how to fall apart in the stretch.

As for the comments about the pitching staff, Kip Wells and Anthony Reyes just started games the Cards won.

And if you think Jocketty can't run circles around Hendry in the trade market, you're nuts.

Today was NOT a successful day.

by lancaster99 on Jul 29, 2007 5:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Um...
...while some of us are stuck living in the past, some of us see us being a half-game back of the Brewers in the division as a good thing. Cardinals are 5 and a half back of us right now. If the Cardinals do somehow become resurgent, we can worry about it then.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Jul 29, 2007 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I couldn't care less about the Brewers
They are yesterday's news. We would have easily made up 1.5 games.

The Cardinals are surging. When they surge, they catch people.

They have experience and are better at this kind of thing than we are, because we have a bunch of rookies.

I want them stomped out like the cockroaches they are.

by lancaster99 on Jul 29, 2007 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's Time
for your medicine now.
And so it goes.

by Luigi on Jul 29, 2007 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I felt the same
way a couple days ago. But after watching the Cards, I don't think they are THAT good.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"

by wild bill on Jul 29, 2007 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You all DO know?
... that despite all the angst about the Cards this week (Please remember they were at home for 7 "make or break" games, and the Cubs were on the road):
  1. They did to the Brewers EXACTLY what we wanted them to do.
  2. The Cubs GAINED a half-game on them in the standings.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Jul 29, 2007 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The cardinals are surging?
Didn't they just lose two out of three to the Cubs a few days ago? I know what you are trying to say, but I have a lot of confidence in this Cub team right now.

by qccub on Jul 29, 2007 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The more I think about it......
you are proabably right. I do not think that the Cards can hang, especially on the road, but in my mind they are a bigger worry than the Brewers. We have so many games left against them, and the Cards, like you said, have done this before and know how to win.

Watch out for them these next two days to make a move or two.

by louslovechild on Jul 29, 2007 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You Sound
an awful lot like a Red Sox fan--all gloom and doom.  

How can any self-respecting Cub fan think that "Today was NOT a successful day"?

Carpe diem dude!

And so it goes.

by Luigi on Jul 29, 2007 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will gladly put my Cubbies up against
the Cards any day....we just got done winning 2 outta 3 from them at their place....Wells and Reyes have been inconsistent and even if they improve that is only 2 pitchers...I do not fear drunk boy's team or his managerial skills....

by razzpunk on Jul 29, 2007 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just ridiculous...
Kip Wells and Anthony Reyes as a positive? Are you serious? Really? Surely not.

How exactly has Jocketty run circles around Hendry in the trade market? That's an ignorant conclusion.

Let's see. The Cubs win, gain on the division leader, and today WASN'T a successful day. Absolute idiocy.

MARQUIS! YES, MARQUIS!

by thekansasian on Jul 29, 2007 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cardinals aren't going anywhere.
Their pitching staff is a joke. Jim Edmonds needs to retire. They are not a playoff-caliber club. They took 3 of 4 from a Brewers team that is over-rated and in the middle of a massive choke job.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Jul 29, 2007 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your outrageous opinions
are reminiscent of the dearly departed BlueMike.
Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jul 29, 2007 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only head-scratcher
for me today was starting the 9th with Howry when there's a 6 run lead. He has accumulated the most innings pitched out of any of our relievers, and we need our best guys fresh for tough opponents coming up in the Phillies and Mets.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Jul 29, 2007 5:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My guess...
would be to rebuild confidence and give him a pressure-free situation after losing the first game of the series.
MARQUIS! YES, MARQUIS!

by thekansasian on Jul 29, 2007 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

good point
when was the last time he pitched

by dalehenderson on Jul 29, 2007 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Howry is one of those guys
that needs to pitch regularly to really be effective. I know we were al worried about him and Eyre having tired arms from last year, but it seems to me that the bad Howry comes out when he's had a few days off. He needs to work regular, IMO. Moreover, he needs to trust his fastball and stop nibbling.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 29, 2007 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cardinals...
Now play the Pirates and the Nationals.

The division leader was always a straw-man. The Cardinals were out of it, and now they are not.

If you don't think that's cause for concern, I can't help you.

by lancaster99 on Jul 29, 2007 5:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sure, the Cardinals are a concern
but that rotation will never ever carry a team to any sort of championship. They suck, suck, suck. Worst rotation in division, by far. Outside of Isringhausen, the bullpen is equally bad. As for the offense, Duncan and Pujols are the only major league hitters in that lineup. Rolen and Edmonds are past their prime and the rest are a collection of castoffs and nobodies. They are on a good run and will probably make it interesting for a month, but no way a team that bad and that old will last down the stretch. I always worry about the Cardinals, as they seem to have this knack for the unexpected, but they have way too many obstacles to surmount this year.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 29, 2007 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just What
then, do you suggest the world of Cub fans do?

Should we storm the hallowed offices of Wrigely Field bearing torches and pitchforks and demand the head of Albert Pujols at the end of a pike?

Are we all to just sit and brood that the Cardinals actually play baseball in our division and that all else is hoplessness?

How about we all OD on the nearest pharmaceuticals to our reach while we mumble something about the meaninglessness of life?

Man, you must be a real joy to live with.  It's about fun and enjoyment.  It's about optimism.  That's what being a Cub fan is.  You just don't get it, do you?

And so it goes.

by Luigi on Jul 29, 2007 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't discount any team
but the Cardinals did us a service by setting the Brewers back and I'm not going to fell bad about routing for them this past series.
'07 Postseason: Bears, Bulls... Cubs?

by stelmodad on Jul 29, 2007 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cards play well at home
The Brewers, as has been noted before DO NOT play well on the road. Combine that with some tightening necks, on the Milwaukee side -- 3 out of 4 for the 'Birds isn't that unexpected. (After all, the Reds took 2 of 3 from the BC) I did expect a split in this series, so this is nice.

The Cardinals are just on the edge of being out of the race. This just isn't the Cardinals year, so many things are going wrong -- however, there's always a highlight somewhere -- this may be their highlight of the year.

I know, never count them out, but even with their wins this weekend, the Cardinals are still a team with multiple problems. (After all, I believe we can now call the 'Crew a struggling team) Are they buyers or sellers right now? Boy, I'm not sure. I think they should re-set for the future, for I think that's the only way they will continue to compete. The Brew Crew is a young team, and will continue be around. The Cubs should have the capacity to contend. But, the 'birds are not known to open the check book that much -- so now, I think you get a bit younger -- for next year.

Winning this series might screw them up -- they might think they have a chance, and stand pat. If so, the Cardinals screw up this year and their future. And that ain't bad, either.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 29, 2007 5:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Any
good jingles lately?
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"

by wild bill on Jul 29, 2007 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Judge for yourself

Soriano HR - if I did this right.

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Jul 29, 2007 5:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I can't see the pic...
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 29, 2007 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The picture
doesn't show for me.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Jul 29, 2007 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh well -- my little grassy knoll
You can see a screen capture here.
  1. You can see the ball descending, blurred in front of the guy's face.
  2. The guy to his right (our left) is reaching to his left, not forward over the wall.
  3. The ball hits the reaching guy's hands and then bounces off the first guy's chest and then back onto the field.
Doesn't affect the game result but it's unfair on Soriano, and just a really bad call.

I agree with a fifth ump in a booth watching on TV. Teams can't appeal - the fifth ump can be proactive however if the situation calls for it and alert the crew chief of an error like this.

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Jul 29, 2007 5:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dodgers lose!
Padres 0.5 games back from WC
Cubs   1.0 game  back from WC

Woo!

"man, Marmol is just disgusting...nasty, filthy, dirty, unke[m]pt, slimey...whatever, but he's pitching very good" -DTJchris and buck[m]ulligan

by NittanyCub on Jul 29, 2007 5:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My thought on Instant Replay
I agree that the MLB umpires need to be in better shape. In every sport, the game has gotten faster and the officials need to be in position to make the correct call. Baseball may be the only sport that really hasn't changed all that much comparitively, BUT if West was in better shape, he might have seen the play better and made the right decision.
I believe replay should be used on questionable home runs and fan interference in general. The nature of baseball makes for bang-bang plays all game long and to stop and look at every tight play would drag the game into 4 hours+. 99.9% of the time, the ump gets those right. Like someone said earlier, have a "5th" ump in the booth to review those. I don't care if we were winning by 20 runs, the runs that did not get credited affect player stats and if they were not credited by a bad call, it should be corrected. And at that early point in the game, the game was still winnable by the Reds.
"When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches."- Ron Santo

by BigJohnAZ on Jul 29, 2007 5:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Many things.....by the numbers
The Cards are 10-14 in April at the end of May they were 22-29 (12-15) at the end of June July,  35-42 (13-13) where they are now 48-53 (July 13-11)

Are they someone turning things around? Well from playing under .500 to just over .500.

Brewers are 16-9 in April, 30-24 end of May, (14-15), 47-33 end of June (17-9), July 57-49 (10-16)

Brew Crew are wilting badly...

Milw-09-24-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Jul 29, 2007 6:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Brewers melted like Wisc chedder in
a hot summer sun last year.  Don't think they don't remember that.  It is the dirty little secret the Brewer announcers don't want to talk about, but you know those young players remember how poorly they played post-All Star Break last year.

As for the Cardinals, after these easy six games (Pitt & Nats) on the road, they have SD & LA at home, then Brewers & Cubs on road.  

My guess is the season will be defined for all three teams (Cubs, Brewers & Cards) by August 20th.

Soriano: rub two of those big bats together and you will catch fire!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 29, 2007 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW, for everyone fearing that Z had a fracture...
...[I told you it was nothing serious]. please not this paragraph in particular:

"Ryan Freel also hit a line drive off Zambrano's right ankle in the sixth. The ball deflected toward Aramis Ramirez at third and he threw Freel out in time. Zambrano barely flinched, but when he left the game after one out in the Reds eighth, he was pointing to his right leg. He apparently had cramps in his thigh but isn't expected to miss a start."

Good to know.

"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 29, 2007 6:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

sorry, missed the link...
karmic payback for my gloating, no doubt. Any way, the story is here
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 29, 2007 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

carrie muskrat reported that
so take it with a grain of salt
When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 29, 2007 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Z said nearly the same thing
in his post-game comments.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 29, 2007 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And now...
...the Trib is reporting it, as well.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 29, 2007 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok...
take my comment with a grain of salt
When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 29, 2007 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol!
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 29, 2007 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's to...
...Zambrano batting 8th when Hill catches him.

by Fighting Amish on Jul 29, 2007 6:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Update your blog lately.
Luv,
cujays96

by MiniAndretti on Jul 29, 2007 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On instant replay
The NFL should not be the barometer for measuring the merits of bringing instant replay to the majors. It really is a huge drag on the game the way they've implemented it.

The problem is giving teams a measure of control over the reply process. This shouldn't happen in baseball.

I prefer the way college basketball uses IR. The officials, including the scorekeeper, have total control over the process. They also use it in very specific, well-defined situations (typically at the end of halves when determining if a basket was made before the buzzer, or how much time should be on the clock in an in-bound situation). I don't see why the MLB couldn't adopt a similar philosophy - define very specific scenarios where IR can be used, let the scorekeeper make the call. The list of reviewable scenarios could be:

  • questionable HRs
  • out/safe calls at home
  • catches/traps
Thoughts?
"I don't know what I'm talking about, and I'm pretty sure you don't either." -David Letterman to Bill O'Reilly

by hipster17 on Jul 29, 2007 6:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm a Traditionalist
As such, I don't like the idea of instant replay at all.  I feel that fat, slow umpires are part of the game and that their calls are all final, right or wrong.

That said, my guess is that IR will somehow worm its way into the game.  If it does, I'd prefer the NBA model to the NFL and allow the umpires to decide when and where to use it.

And so it goes.

by Luigi on Jul 29, 2007 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pardon me, but...
...I'm pretty sure the gaping flaw in the NBA's letting the refs self-police has been exposed recently.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Jul 29, 2007 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The recent incident
in the NBA with one rotten ref is really no indication of the effectiveness of their policy of controls. Their refs are constantly being graded and reprimanded for mistakes.
Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jul 29, 2007 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really, 'cause...
...a guy that got away with point shaving for years doesn't call into question the effectiveness of their grading policy?
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Jul 30, 2007 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So because they found
one bad apple, the whole system must be busted?
Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jul 30, 2007 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd Prefer
no replay at all, but if it comes, the lesser of two evils lies in the umpires controlling its use.  Any attempt to color MLB umpires with the broad brush you just used is unfair and has nothing to do with the use of replay.  
And so it goes.

by Luigi on Jul 29, 2007 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm all for it
Add questionable safe/out calls at the bases.

In any case, instant repaly well implemented will not delay the game any more than the endless discussions between managers and umpires that we see now.

by Fraggin Judge on Jul 29, 2007 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No to replay
The games are slow enough already.
"Have Keith Moreland drop a routine fly. Give everybody two bags of peanuts and a frosty malt, And I'll be ready to die." -Steve Goodman

by danimal15 on Jul 29, 2007 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just got back from wrigley field tour
and am ecstatic the brewers lost tomorrow, so if were able to pull out the win tomorrow while im in the left field bleachers i will gladly take part in the "change the flags" chant
Bring back the damn cowbell!

by CubsBall2202 on Jul 29, 2007 6:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Clinch the Central!!!
If the Cubs win the rest of their games, they will clinch the Division Title!!!!
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Jul 29, 2007 6:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What's our magic number?
lol
"I don't know what I'm talking about, and I'm pretty sure you don't either." -David Letterman to Bill O'Reilly

by hipster17 on Jul 29, 2007 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Tomorrow
night it will be down to 58 and Tuesday it will be down to 56, and Wednesday........
And so it goes.

by Luigi on Jul 29, 2007 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This date in history...
On Monday, July 30th 1984, the Cubs began a home series against Philly just .5 games back of the division lead.
They played hard. They did their best. Move on. Their whole life isn't out in that field. It's their job. It's not an obsession.

by Jeff Pico on Jul 29, 2007 9:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oooh! I like this
Let me try:

On this date in history, July 29 1984, the Milwaukee Brewers started a 10 game losing streak.

Tinker to Evers to Chance!

by sanantonecub on Jul 29, 2007 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow.
both of these are straight up bizarre, yet true.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Jul 29, 2007 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweeeet!
1-RUN GAMES = 14-17 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-6 | HOME = 27-24 | updated on 7/27

by SackMan on Jul 29, 2007 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice research, everyone
In early Aug. 1984, the Cubs swept the Mets in a four-game series at Wrigley marked by a bean-ball war. One of the greatest series the Cubs ever played.
"Have Keith Moreland drop a routine fly. Give everybody two bags of peanuts and a frosty malt, And I'll be ready to die." -Steve Goodman

by danimal15 on Jul 29, 2007 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.
This is wild.

phat

by phatass on Jul 29, 2007 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soriano's non-homer on Reds broadcast.
The Reds broadcasters thought that Soriano hit a HR but the replays were the same shown in WGN. They were inconclusive.

by Fraggin Judge on Jul 29, 2007 9:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The problem with instant replay
is that really, all video and film can be considered inconclusive.

It's hard to take angle and all of that into account. I don't trust video at all.

phat

by phatass on Jul 29, 2007 10:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Especially
As in todays instance, the video was definitely inconclusive and the ruling on the field would not of been overruled if a "clear and unquestionable" rule was in place.

=

Tinker to Evers to Chance!

by sanantonecub on Jul 29, 2007 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about this for a rule?
Any fan who touches any ball not clearly in the stands gets tasered.

by lancaster99 on Jul 29, 2007 10:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LMAO
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 30, 2007 4:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As Bob said on the broadcast:
An electrified, barbed wire fence would do the trick.
"Have Keith Moreland drop a routine fly. Give everybody two bags of peanuts and a frosty malt, And I'll be ready to die." -Steve Goodman

by danimal15 on Jul 29, 2007 10:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I lurked over at
Brew Crew Ball. They are bitching about how lucky the Cubs have been lately, give me a break. Don't they remember April and May? All we had was bad luck. I guess it evens out over a season, it's just like the old cliche, winning creates good luck. Hey, whatever it is, I want 2 more months of it, please lol
"When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches."- Ron Santo

by BigJohnAZ on Jul 29, 2007 11:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Brew Crew Ball is a trash web site
they only get about 50 comments for games because no one in milwaukee has television and when anyone posts a negative comment there its assumed its a cubs fan and they go on to make fun of cubs fans intelligence which is hilarious because for one there from milwaukee, wisconsin, i think that speaks for itself
Bring back the damn cowbell!

by CubsBall2202 on Jul 30, 2007 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pot Meet Kettle
If you have a problem with the comments on the other BCB, then you shouldn't stoop to their level.  And it's a little funny that you claim they insult "cub fan intelligence" when 1) you insult Milwaukee and  2) you can't even write a proper sentence and 3) you haven't figured out how to use the cap key on your keyboard.

Everyone, just leave the other BCB alone.  It's just sticking a bee hive with a stick.

by Josh77 on Jul 30, 2007 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gee...
With such great and intelligent-sounding Cubs fans as yourself, I wonder why they would ever get that impression.

SARCASM

MARQUIS! YES, MARQUIS!

by thekansasian on Jul 30, 2007 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you get a chance
compare the team batting and team pitching stats between the Mets and Cubs. Incredibly similar. That is gonna be a heck of a series.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Jul 30, 2007 12:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Spookily similar
One thing that stands out as much different is NY's league leading SBs - Cubs will need to learn how to hold runners.
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Jul 30, 2007 3:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

especially the youngsters
hill and marshall are terrible at holding runners. really, some of that has to come from lou; he needs to act like larussa and start calling for stall tactics and other things to stop the running game.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Jul 30, 2007 3:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think they will face the Mets
If the rotation holds true to form it will be Z-Lilly-Marquis for the three games against the Mets.

by SuperContext on Jul 30, 2007 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Z
Does Zambrano reaching for the ball with his pitching hand bother anyone else out there? KNOCK IT OFF!!!!
Be sure to check out The View From The Bleachers

by viewfromthebleachers on Jul 30, 2007 8:13 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

are you kidding me
Z can't be hurt.
Z wears a glove only for sake of tradition.
Z could start every day, right handed one day left handed another but he doesn't because he doesn't want to show up the rest of the SP.
Z secretly plays for the chicago fire on his offdays.
Z just got signed as a Bears DT.
Z is indestructable
All Hail the Big Z
All Hail the Big Z
All Hail the Big Z
When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 30, 2007 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

re: are you kidding me
Big Z is the new Chuck Norris!
Football and basketball are just things to do between baseball seasons.

by MetsSuck on Jul 30, 2007 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought that
was Matt Murton..
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jul 30, 2007 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No
Chuck Norris is the old Big Z
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 30, 2007 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get this!
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/ps_odds.php

It shows that the Cubs have a better chance at making the playoffs than the Brewers!

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jul 30, 2007 8:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's because...
... the Cubs now have a higher winning % than Milwaukee, and their simulation projects them to have a better final record (slightly), as that page shows -- thus, they'd finish ahead of the Brewers in the BP scenario.

FWIW, that link is always on the right sidebar under "Stat Corner".

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 30, 2007 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey
I used that link, interesting stats there
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Jul 30, 2007 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Al!
If the two teams tie with identical records, what is the first tie-breaker? Is it head-to-head? Division?

I have forgotten...

It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 30, 2007 9:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's head-to-head...
... if both have the same record and would both make the playoffs. The team with the better head-to-head record wins the division, the other gets the wild card.

This scenario has happened four times in the last several years; for details click here.

FWIW, the Cubs are 7-5 vs. Milwaukee so far this year with three games left. Thus they need to win only one of the three to take the season series.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 30, 2007 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, Al!
It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 30, 2007 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mission Accomplished
i don't get it. is the title a tongue and cheek reference to infamously declaring victory too soon? or could it possibly be that you penned the now famous double entendre for disaster unintentionally? this title has a weird curse type feeling to it. perhaps a change is in order?

by jacob on Jul 30, 2007 9:21 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ESPN 1000
IS covering instant replay for baseball in a limited use, in continuing yesterday's controversial reversal of Sori's HR, FYI.
It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 30, 2007 9:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So I think I'm safe
investing ing a Zambrano jersey.
"Damn it feels good to be a gangster"

by lostinthevines on Jul 30, 2007 10:05 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Help with "SIGN Z, SIGNS" - PLEASE?
FELLOW BCB READERS/Writers:

Please find below a grass-roots effort I am trying to get off the ground which is a result of what I feel is something I can try to get support on from many of my fellow Cub fans who are fed up with our ACE pitcher being un-extended as of now.

I am not an "activist" kind of person, however, when I get emotional about something, and feel I might be losing it, I will try to take action. Please consider supporting this in any way you can.

I have sent out these as a more formal press release to Sports radio and other outlets. Hey, what the hell? It couldn't hurt.

Help with "SIGN Z - SIGNAGE" Campaign

This weekend 8/3-8/5 will be heavily covered by the national Media as the Mets are in town to play the Cubs.

In taking the lead from the White Sox fans and their penchant for showing their Burlhe love at U.S. Cellular, I am proposing that the Mets weekend shall be the "Official Sign Z, Sign Campaign".

This is an opportunity for Cub fans to show "Z", and current management the fan's love for the player and enact whatever pressure the fan base can make, to show TO THE REST OF THE COUNTRY, that it is time to get the deal done. By using home made signs as one voice, it is my hope that it could exert even more pressure on management to finally take care of business with our Ace.

I am requesting that if any of you guys who are going to the Cubs/Mets series, PLEASE consider bringing a home-made sign stating your wish for Carlos Zambrano to be signed by Jim Hendry - (a simple "SIGN Z NOW, JH" would be great).

In this way, if it is NOT ALREADY CLEAR, management as well as the rest of the U.S., will get to see how the fans feel about this unsettling situation.

It doesn't take a lot of effort, but a hundred signs in the park stating, "SIGN Z NOW" will make a statement, I would hope.

Thank you VERY much for listening, and considering.

It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 30, 2007 10:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How about....
...if you treat a replay challenge just like a trip to the mound.  First one is a freebie, and on the second one, if the call is not overturned, you have to remove the pitcher.

by jazzman56 on Jul 30, 2007 2:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting.
That'd cut down on the number of challenges.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 31, 2007 4:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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