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Revenge Of The Transferred

So it wasn't enough that Aaron Rowand and Tadahito Iguchi used to torture the Cubs while they played with that South Side team -- now, both having been traded to the Phillies, and Iguchi having been there a grand total of three days, and knowing that their old team didn't do very well against the Cubs this year -- they both took it to Ted Lilly last night, hitting home runs (Rowand's a three-run job), and basically, that was that, as the Phillies, for a day at least, kept the Cubs from moving into first place in the NL Central with a 4-1 win.

Just a few notes from last night, and then I'm going to talk about other stuff, because really, despite being played in front of another huge crowd (41,686, and that gives the Cubs a shot at breaking the four-game series record that was set week-before-last) and on a gorgeous night, the game was pretty dull:

  • The Cubs can't hit lefthanders. They're now 9-16 vs. LHP. This makes little logical sense, as, supposedly, the Cubs' offense is built around right-handed power hitters (Lee, Ramirez, Soriano). But it's a fact.
  • Cole Hamels is really, really good. He kept the entire offense off-balance last night. Sometimes you just get beat by a better pitcher.
  • Ronny Cedeno needs to learn how to take a pitch when he only gets one at-bat per game.
  • A fan fell out of the seats -- ominously, just about in the "Bartman" location -- during the 8th inning. A security guard quickly helped him up and was getting ready to escort him off the field, when another security guard ran at the two of them, looking like he wanted to tackle both of them. The guy fell out of the seats accidentally, and credit to the Cubs for realizing this, because apparently they're not going to prosecute.
  • The above-linked article also says that Jim Hendry has no intention of trading Felix Pie to anyone, and that Hendry really liked what he saw in Kerry Wood's last outing for Peoria last Friday. Wood, who was laughing with teammates during BP in the outfield last night and who looks almost too skinny, will throw tonight for Double-A Tennessee -- ironically, against the Cubs' former AA affiliate at West Tenn -- and if there aren't any problems, he'll be activated either Thursday or Friday.
  • Which leads me to this note: Steve Phillips, on Baseball Tonight last night, proved once again why he's no longer a general manager. The BBTN crew was discussing Wood and how he might help the Cubs, and the general consensus seemed to be that IF healthy, Wood could be a real boost to what John Kruk termed a "deep" bullpen (and it is; last night they at least kept the Cubs in the game after Lilly had to be lifted after five innings and 97 pitches). But Phillips had to disagree, saying that the Cubs would have to make a roster move for Wood (Duh!) and if Wood wasn't healthy, they'd "lose a player". Wrong, Steve-o. When Wood's activated, Rocky Cherry will be optioned back to Iowa, where he can return at any time. If this is the way Phillips operated when he was Mets GM, no wonder they fired him.
Anyway, that's about it for the game; the Cubs will be facing righthander Adam Eaton tonight, and the "good" Jason Marquis had better show up.

What I wanted to talk about, and I see I've gone on longer than I really wanted to in the game notes, was BCB reader Dave -- sorry, I forgot your username! -- who sat with us last night and when I was just about to pass the pre-game time reading a magazine, pulled out his iPhone and let me fool around with it for a while. If you have not yet seen one of these and think it's overhyped -- and I did -- let me tell you, they are extremely cool. It's impossible to even describe all the cool features, but suffice to say that it can pull up nearly full-featured web pages, including BCB (I noticed that there were already 100 comments in the game thread in the 90 minutes between the time I left my house and the time I saw the thread on the iPhone); it runs video clips from YouTube and other sources; does email and text messaging (you can see full conversations, very cool), and -- oh, yes, it's a phone, too.

Here's where I think Apple has made its mistake: first, it's way too expensive. Dave bought the top model -- the $600 model. That's way too much for a first-generation piece of technology; clearly, version 2.0 is going to be far improved over the first model. And second, I already have an iPod, so the idea of buying the iPhone to replace a (fairly) expensive gadget I already have is another reason I haven't really thought about this. And finally, going with only one service provider cuts the rest of us, who don't want to switch, out. If they'd make a model that does everything except have the iPod, cut the price thereof to about $200, and sign up with other providers, I'd be first in line... because it is extremely cool.

And that was the most interesting thing about last night. Perhaps tonight will be better.

Finally, having thought about what the Cubs do or don't need to do to tweak the roster, and what they do or don't have to offer other teams, I'm firmly in the "do nothing today" camp. For discussion of any deals that might be made, or like the Braves' and Mets' deals that were made yesterday, use this diary that I posted earlier today for this purpose. I'll end by reminding everyone that the Cubs picked up a couple of useful parts in 2003 -- Randall Simon and Doug Glanville -- after August 1. Granted, those two guys weren't big deals, but both of them contributed down the stretch and in the postseason. Just because the calendar changes tomorrow doesn't mean the Cubs couldn't make a deal before August 31.

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Played
with an iphone myself recently...extremely cool!
MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Jul 31, 2007 8:45 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

iPhone Handy at The Game
I found my iPhone handy at the game I was at a few weeks ago.  I kept checking the scores of the Milwaukee game, and a fan in front of me even asked me to keep tabs on the Yankees game at the time as well.  

I mainly used the PickleView.com website, it's designed for the iPhone and proved to be a bit of fun to keep track of the game and chat with others using the service.

by McCarron on Jul 31, 2007 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In fairness to Phillips...
perhaps he means once Wood is activated off the 60-day DL, someone will have to be removed from the 40-man roster.  Thus, in effect, the team would be gambling that Wood will be healthy at the risk of losing a player/prospect.

Of course, as someone pointed out in a previous dialogue, it's possible that the Cubs could potentially circumvent this problem by moving Angel Guzman to the 60-day DL.

by SouthernCub on Jul 31, 2007 8:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Or Henry Blanco...
... who has been having shoulder trouble and may now be out for longer than expected.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 31, 2007 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very true...
he is correct in a vacuum.  The move would be a risk, IF there wasn't somebody to send to the 60-day DL.  

You are right - there are certainly ways in this case to avoid losing a player.  It isn't as simple as sending Cherry down, though.  If Guzman and Blanco weren't candidates for the 60-day DL, we'd have to lose someone from the roster.

Phillips should probably have done the research to figure out that Guzman/Blanco could be moved.  But I think that's more a matter of lazy journalism than bad GM skills.  He knew the baseball rules, he just didn't do the fact-checking.

by SouthernCub on Jul 31, 2007 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

P.S.
Don't get me wrong - I'm right there with you that Phillips was terrible as a GM, too.  I just think this is more his glaring inadequacy as a commentator than a GM.  Splitting hairs, I know!

by SouthernCub on Jul 31, 2007 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blanco
did play in Peoria two days ago and homered.

by Josh77 on Jul 31, 2007 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or, if Jim Hendry...
...was better at roster management, we could've just not had Jake Fox up here for a whole... was it five at-bats? That would've saved us a 40-man roster spot.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Jul 31, 2007 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't Fox on the 40-man roster before?
I thought he was. If not, what roster move was made to put him there?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 31, 2007 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Izturis was traded...
that's the move that allowed Fox to join the 40-man, I believe.

by SouthernCub on Jul 31, 2007 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on Al...
Al - get your facts straight.

But Phillips had to disagree, saying that the Cubs would have to make a roster move for Wood (Duh!) and if Wood wasn't healthy, they'd "lose a player". Wrong, Steve-o. When Wood's activated, Rocky Cherry will be optioned back to Iowa, where he can return at any time.

Phillips is exactly right.  Wood is on the 60 day DL, meaning that in order to get activated the Cubs would have to make a roster move in order to free up a spot on the 40 man roster.  There are ways to do this, but it is not as easy as sending Rocky Cherry back down.

by big_lowitzki on Jul 31, 2007 8:52 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Phillips didn't explain that.
The Cubs don't have to "lose a player", as you point out. I got my facts straight -- Phillips didn't. He implied that activating Wood was a bad idea for this reason.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 31, 2007 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its pretty simply..
Al - you said, and I quote:
When Wood's activated, Rocky Cherry will be optioned back to Iowa, where he can return at any time.

And that simply is not true.  Sure... Rocky Cherry can be moved down to AAA at any time.  But that does not open up a spot for Kerry Wood.  A roster move is necessary, and a player needs to be moved off of the 40 man roster.  I highly doubt that will be Blanco.  But it could be someone like Guzman.  

But regardless... Wood can not be moved to the bigs with a simple move of sending Cherry down.  And that is what you clearly implied in your attempt to attack Phillips.

by big_lowitzki on Jul 31, 2007 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steve Phillips
couldn't find his buttcheeks with both hands and a flashlight.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Jul 31, 2007 8:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Phillips is worse
than Joe Morgan, Dusty Baker and Babbling Bob Brenly combined.

I say stand pat on the trade deadline too. Everyone is pushing and you end up over paying. If there is a need in 3 weeks, address it then. The playoff picture will be a little more clear at that time.

This is Harry Carray, goodbye from Wrigley Field and So Long Everybody.

by mrcubsfan on Jul 31, 2007 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa
No one is worse than Joe Morgan. No one. Not even Stevie. Joe is on a different level.

by hawkeyenation on Jul 31, 2007 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bob Brendley
Kicks ass
GO CUBS GO!!!!!!

by roach on Jul 31, 2007 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brenly
BB is just fine. Phillips is OK; especially since he was a GM. Morgan is still an ass.
da-da-daddio

by blackhawk24 on Jul 31, 2007 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HEY! NO One
is worse than, "I'm the greatest 2B Ever" Morgan!

NO ONE!

It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 31, 2007 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I take the blame for last night...
After some prodding from my friends last night, I checked my record at Wrigley this year.  I am 0-4 when Lilly starts after last night.  I am, however, 5-0 when Marquis starts, but I won't be there tonight, but I will be there next Sunday when if my math is right, Marquis will also start.

Kasey

by kaseyi on Jul 31, 2007 9:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

iPhone owner here...
...and a few comments.  First, $600 is a lot for a phone, but it is not just a phone; it is a phone, an iPod, the best mobile web browser ever, and can do both some PDA-like functions and includes a 2 MP camera.  I compare the $600 price point to that of when v1 of the iPod came out; it was $500, I believe, and everyone gasped at the mp3 player's price point.  

Second, there have been and are ongoing rumors of a v2 coming out, you can search digg.com or endadget.com for some of those.  The great thing about the phone is that software updates via iTunes can and will fix bugs and give us new features.  

Finally, I have had "text messaging wars" with my friends, confident their tactile keyboards are far superior to that of my virtual iPhone's board.  I both beat and tied a friend with a new BlackBerry 8830 and kicked the butt of a friend with a HTC T-Mobile Dash.  And beat a friend with a T9 Sanyo something.  I LOVE the keyboard.  

No, the iPhone does not do everything; phones are available that do more things.  However, no phone does exactly what the iPhone does AS WELL OR BETTER than the iPhone.  

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 31, 2007 9:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes.....
but the Ipod does not come with a jacked up monthly charge to access all these great amenities....  I will wait a few months myself.
"I don't know why we bought the Cubs. We already had a perfectly good company softball team." ~ Tribune Co.

by Lou In Blue on Jul 31, 2007 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is somewhat an ignorant statement...
...AT&T and Apple have released the cheapest unlimited data plan in the United States.  In other words, no current provider has a plan that comes CLOSE to the iPhone's.  For $60/mo. I get 450 minutes and unlimited data through the web browser Safari.  This is actually GOOD news for non-iPhone/AT&T users, it will push the competition to lower their plan prices, too.  

And, on this rationale, this is likened to saying "Nice house you bought, but you forgot to include taxes, gas, water, electric, etc., in the cost of the house."  Every cell phone comes with monthly charges.  

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 31, 2007 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And to boot...
...Apple gets $500-600 for each unit. Their margin is huge. Wish our wonks in the cellphone group can come up with things like that.
da-da-daddio

by blackhawk24 on Jul 31, 2007 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I've heard their margin...
...is $300-$400, which is just a ridiculous amount of margin.  Then again, I read Apple's been working on this for over five years.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 31, 2007 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

with 450 minutes and 3G
Helio offers unlimited data plans for 65. the fact that it doesn't have 3G is my only problem with the Iphone
GO CUBS GO!!!!!!

by roach on Jul 31, 2007 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

3G is a paradox...
...it has been proven that its battery life would be less than 1/2 it currently is with the iPhone; this I would not be willing to sacrifice.  EDGE isn't really THAT bad, you can't load up things extremely fast, but the WiFi is excellent and there are few and far between cases whereas I need something rightthatsecond and cannot find a WiFi connection.  

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 31, 2007 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

3G Battery Drain
The 3G chipsets in use today are just battery hogs.  I went from a 8525, then the Blackjack to the iPhone and I love it's battery life.  If I surfed the web for an hour or so on those 3G phones I wouldn't make it through the end of the day with battery life.  The Blackjack even comes with more batteries to just keep the juice going.

My iPhone lasts two days sometimes with normal use, with heavy use it lasts a day with plenty of talk time, etc.  I actually spent two days this week talking on it for 3 hours (work conference calls) and it still wasn't out of battery.  

Apple made the right choice with avoiding the 3G.

by McCarron on Jul 31, 2007 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

iPhone links...
...here's two stories about a v2 iPhone, a few weeks old.  

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19682602/

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=printArticleBasic&articleId=9026900

Here is MADDOX's take on the iPhone; if you are unfamiliar with The Best Page in the Universe, please, this probably is NSFW, but highly amusing if you hate Apple/iPhones/iPods.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone

And finally, Will It Blend?  Enough said.

http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=iphone

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 31, 2007 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha
I'm glad someone else here reads maddox.  I found that article hilarious, even though I own an iMac and an iBook and am salivating at the thought of an iPhone.
Out of clutter, find simplicity. From discord, find harmony. In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Jul 31, 2007 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...
...even us Apple fanboys can appreciate good humor.  Maddox rules.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 31, 2007 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Switching Gears Here for a moment....
MLB trade rumors is reporting the Brewers are trying to work a deal to get Gagne from Texas....
"I don't know why we bought the Cubs. We already had a perfectly good company softball team." ~ Tribune Co.

by Lou In Blue on Jul 31, 2007 9:17 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, saw that
Now who would they want from the Cubs for Gagne? First name to come up probably would be Pie.
da-da-daddio

by blackhawk24 on Jul 31, 2007 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I was Milwaukee...
...I'd be shitting bricks right now with the way their bullpen has fallen apart.  

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 31, 2007 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm guessing...
... the price for Gagne comes pretty high. The Brewers already sent some of their better prospects to SD for Linebrink. I'm guessing they can't afford him.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 31, 2007 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLB Trade Rumors?
As MLB Trade Rumors ever been right about a story that they "broke?"

And why would Gagne go to a place where he wouldn't close?

by big_lowitzki on Jul 31, 2007 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does Gagne have a choice?
He might not.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 31, 2007 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think he has a choice...
unless Gagne negotiated a no-trade clause with his new contract in Texas (which I highly doubt), I don't think he has a choice if he's traded.  He's certainly not a 10-and-5 guy.

by SouthernCub on Jul 31, 2007 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

News reports say that Gagne...
...has partial no-trade protection. It could just be a list of teams he can't be trade to, I have no idea.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Jul 31, 2007 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think so...
According to Cot's Baseball Contracts, he does have no trade protection, but it is unclear how extensive it is.

by big_lowitzki on Jul 31, 2007 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boston has Gagne.
next...
Soriano: rub two of those big bats together and you will catch fire!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 31, 2007 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hamels was just sick last night
I always hated Dusty's "tip your cap" line, but halfway through the 3rd inning I knew Hamels' stuff was just too good.

The reason this loss is easily forgettable for the Cubs is because Lilly only made one real mistake, their were no real defensive miscues or other stupid mistakes. If they can come out and hammer Eaton, they'll be right back on track.

If they can take 4 out 7 seven from the Phils and Mets, that's enough for me.

by SouthsideCub on Jul 31, 2007 9:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Except that...
... the Brewers, who play very well at home, are playing the same two teams. I think the Cubs need to win five of seven.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 31, 2007 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...
just as importantly, several teams are heating up in the wild card race.  Going 4-3 over this stretch doesn't help us there.

This is a pretty big week.  We've made up a lot of ground, but there's still lots of work to do.  Gaining no ground (or losing ground) for a full week this late in the season is never a good thing, and going 4-3 won't gain us ground in either race (will almost certainly lose us ground in the WC race).

by SouthernCub on Jul 31, 2007 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

4 of 7 would be fine
against these teams. The brewers play them two and while they play at home they might be able to pick up a game or two on the cubs but they will give them back next time the go on the road.  We don't need to be leading the division in august to be leading in september.  right now we just need to keep putting together good series and we'll be ok
When in doubt punch Barret in the face

by jds2 on Jul 31, 2007 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed
As long as we can keep pace with the Brewers, we really don't have to pick up any ground on this homestand.  The road is where we will pass Milwaukee (the Cubs are a good road team, the Brewers an atrocious one).

I won't be disappointed if we are 2 games back of the Crew by the end of this weekend, and I think 4 of 7 probably does that for us.  We are playing two very good teams this week, and winning 4 of 7 is the more realistic expectation.

 

by SuperContext on Jul 31, 2007 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs win...
5 of their next 6 against two of the best NL teams?  I'd be thrilled with the next 4 of 6 or even an even split.  If the Brewers go 4-2 this week, they are on the road next week where it doesn't seem to matter who they play, they have a below .500 record.  It might be a little unsettling, but I think we are going to see a seesaw with the Brewers where they go up 2 or 3 games and then we come right back with a four game advantage.  As long as we can stay within striking distance before the Brewers 10 game road trip that ends in Wrigley, we'll be in great shape.  If we have the change the flag then, I've got no problem with that.

by IllinoisCubs on Jul 31, 2007 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts exactly
winning 4 out of 7 the rest of the way will give us about 89 wins. I think that will be enough to give us the Central, considering the Brewers road woes.

Also, I think we have to have reasonable expectations against the good teams. It's one thing to expect 4 of 6 from the Cards and Reds (and I did), but it's wholly another to expect 5 out of 7 against the Mets and Phils.

by SouthsideCub on Jul 31, 2007 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you're truly a playoff contender...
... you should be able to do that even to teams like that, in your home park.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 31, 2007 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're right that should...
but i think i'd be dancing in the streets if we went 5-2.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Jul 31, 2007 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed
What I'm more saying is, people don't need to jump off of a cliff if this team falls back a game or two this week.  We just came off of a month where the Cubs picked up 8 games from the Brewers.  We are bound to cool down just a little bit and wouldn't you know it, this week we play two of the top teams in the NL.  

I like the pitching matchups we've got going this week (and the pitching matchups the Brewers have going, ex: Glavine looking for 300 tonight versus Suppan) but a split with the Phillies, a split with the Mets and then one game in that series where the game is decided by one bad bounce or one bad pitch would make me delighted.  

If what you say about playoff teams is true, then we don't have to worry about the Brewers making the playoffs after going 2-6 against the Reds and the Cardinals now do we?

by IllinoisCubs on Jul 31, 2007 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'd be very happy with a split.
very happy at this point. i could easily see us getting swept by the phillies.

tonight's game is big--well every game is big, obviously--but i'm pretty sure the cardinals are going to win tonight. and the brewers are back home.

i think we need to win tonight just to keep pace.

"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Jul 31, 2007 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to be Nellie Negative but...
it seems to me that we just do not "match up" well against the Phils and Mets, which causes me to feel we will be lucky to win 3 out of 7 this week at home. 4 out of 7 would be a huge success agaisnt these two teams, and I would take that.

Phillies jsut seem to pound us with homeruns and late-inning comebacks and the Mets (David Wright, Reyes, and LoDuca + bullpen) always seem to kill us.

Let's hope we reverse the trend here and get some wins this week.

If you think you've seen it all...just wait!

by CubFanSince1970 on Jul 31, 2007 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree
I think the Phillies might have an offensive advantage but pitching rotation:

Zambrano     Hamels
Lilly        Lohse
Hill         Moyer
Marshall     Eaton
Marquis      Kendrick

Cubs have a clear win there.  Z and Hamels are equal, but I mean is Lohse even as good as Marquis?  How much would Cub fans complain if the second best starter on our team was debated between those four last guys on the Phillies?  Myers is a beast at the back of the pen, but the Phillies don't have that bad ass who can come in the game in the 6th or 7th inning like Marmol and when it comes down to it, Dempster has just a good of record of saves as Myers does.  They aren't as 'pretty' but a save is a save.  Howry, Erye, Wuertz, Ohman, Marmol and the Triple A bullpen pitcher of the day are much better than Alfonseca, Mesa, Gordon, and nobodies.  This is why we needed to get to the Phillies bullpen last night.  Hamels to Myers was an almost definite loss.

by IllinoisCubs on Jul 31, 2007 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but
this is not how things are matching up for this series....

by anormal on Jul 31, 2007 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A couple of comments
First the original iPod was $500 so the iPhone is just a little bit more expensive.  Second on BBTN the "talent" are assigned to argue different sides of an issue whether or not they believe it.

by jolietconvict on Jul 31, 2007 9:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ugh.
That makes BBTN even more unwatchable.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 31, 2007 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My big problem...
...with BBTN is that they hardly ever do any reporting any more. Instead, it's just "analysis," and most nights it seems to be Eric Young, John Kruk, maybe Steve Phillip or Orel Herschiser, and Dusty Baker communicating from the far reaches of wherever he is. Gag me with a spoon, but those guys all seem to know the same basic things, and little of it is news, or even interesting after a few nights in a row. It's better when Olney or Gammons show up to inject a little actual reporting into the newscast, but that's far too infrequent these days.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Jul 31, 2007 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...
it was nice when they actually showed like 20-30 minutes of highlights each night.  Now, you get 5 seconds of highlights followed by buffoons chattering back and forth.  It's just terrible.

I don't understand why that is the case.  For one thing, they don't have intelligent analysts.  For another, they just regurgitate crap over and over, and occasionally switch sides of the debate.  And finally, I think people actually like to see highlights.  We can go to the internet for the box scores, but it's nice and convenient to see visual recaps of what happened.

by SouthernCub on Jul 31, 2007 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Media
Intelligent answers give us clarity, lead us to truth, and eliminate debate.  Therefore, they are counter to the goals of modern media.  Modern media generates viewership by trying to generate two intractable sides to every question.  So that the audience can tune in every week to see "analysts" scream at each other.  It is the crossfire, professional wrestling, talk radio school of journalism.  Unfortunately it works at getting people to tune in, which is why it is spreading.  It sucks for actual trying to get at answers.

by californiachicagoan on Jul 31, 2007 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone
see Kruck and Phillips get into last night on BBTN?  Made for an awkward moment.  Phillips was talking about trading Kruck to another studio.  Kruck called out Phillips' credibility.... Good stuff
"I don't know why we bought the Cubs. We already had a perfectly good company softball team." ~ Tribune Co.

by Lou In Blue on Jul 31, 2007 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, but...
...I'd absolutely LOVE to see anything about this. Wow.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Jul 31, 2007 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've said it before and I'll say it again
Kruk, Harold Reynolds, gammons, and the other stat guy who's name is eluding me right now...that is the Baseball tonight dreamteam...all these new guys (especially Phillips and dusty) suck!  baseball tonight two years ago was my favorite show now I mute it (except for Kruk) and just watch the highlights...I can never get enough of Kruk saying "you want to get into baseball shape?...take a bunch of grounders eat a hot dog and have a beer"
To Matt Murton - the biggest, baddest, hairiest, most testosterone filled S.O.B to ever put on a cubs uniform

by cubsirishkillme on Jul 31, 2007 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kruk?
His wife only finds him LESS disgusting now.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Jul 31, 2007 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BBTN?
Whhy isn't this BT? Are we living in Victorian times, when it would have been Base Ball To-Night?
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Jul 31, 2007 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And just like the iPhone
the iPod could do little/nothing that other MP3 players had been doing for years, except maybe look cool.
"I don't know what I'm talking about, and I'm pretty sure you don't either." -David Letterman to Bill O'Reilly

by hipster17 on Jul 31, 2007 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If...
...you had actually used an iPhone you'd realize that it has one killer app.  It has a real web browser (ie. it renders full HTML and supports Javascript).  Also due to Apple's UI innovations it makes viewing of those full web pages on a phone possible.  I have used everything from a Palm TX to a Blackberry to WM devices and not one of them can take a full size web page such as this and render it in a usable fashion.

by jolietconvict on Jul 31, 2007 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apple guys
Your brand loyalty is startling. How exactly do you know I've never "actually used" an iPhone?

All I want my phone for is, get this, making calls. Ok, maybe an occasional Cubs score look-up if all other options are unavailable. A simple Web interface does me just fine for that, all on a sub-$100 phone that's carrier agnostic.

iPhones look really cool, don't get me wrong. Just not a good value prop for the money in my mind.

"I don't know what I'm talking about, and I'm pretty sure you don't either." -David Letterman to Bill O'Reilly

by hipster17 on Jul 31, 2007 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You didn't say...
...that you fell it wasn't a good value.  You claimed it didn't do anything that other phones/PDAs do.  On that point you're wrong.  It's not a perfect device by any stretch and I do think it's too expensive at this point but it has definitely raised the bar for cell phone design.

by jolietconvict on Jul 31, 2007 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I look at it this way
It gets consumers to shell out several C-notes, it has high margins and helps the Co's EPS.

That's all I'm interested in.

As a competitor to Apple I could only look on in envy.

da-da-daddio

by blackhawk24 on Jul 31, 2007 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hitting Left Handers?
A while back, Lou shuffled the batting order in order to do better against left handed pitchers.  Was that idea abandoned after one try?

by MolineCubsFan on Jul 31, 2007 9:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The shuffling...
involved primarily just moving Soriano down in the order to 5th.  Lou gave it 2 games or so (patience is one thing he's long on) and hasn't done it since.

by SouthernCub on Jul 31, 2007 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because...
Soriano was 0 for 8.

Didn't you know that you can learn everything you need to know from 8 at-bats?

by big_lowitzki on Jul 31, 2007 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How is 573?
From 2004-2006, Soriano had 573 ABs in the 5 hole.  He posted a .272/.317/.522 line compared to lead off (706 ABs), where he put up a .289/.354/.574 line.  Just under a 100 point OPS difference.

Also, doing this just for leftys doesn't help much, as he has had a near even lefty/righty split.

Whether or not it "should" be, Soriano just does perform better in the 1 spot.

by californiachicagoan on Jul 31, 2007 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure...
But if that is the case (meaning if the Cubs are really looking at the 500+ at-bats), why would they try it here?

by big_lowitzki on Jul 31, 2007 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What has been a bust
has been these 100% righty-only line ups against left-handed pitchers.  I think these line ups have been the worst batting efforts by the Cubs.  Why does Lou continue to use them?  It leaves him with no RH bats on the bench and the pitcher gets too comfortable facing only righties.

I think we have yet to have a productive game against a lefty in one of these games.  I think the Cubs are 0-fer in these experiments.  I hope the "righty only" experiment has been put to bed.  It stinks.

Soriano: rub two of those big bats together and you will catch fire!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 31, 2007 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 31, 2007 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tonight will
set the tone for the rest of the series.  Cubs need a bounce-back win tonight, get up early and give Marquis some confidence.  He really needs to get going.  

Oh and as far as Soriano batting 5th against lefties;  Didn't we win both games???

"I don't know why we bought the Cubs. We already had a perfectly good company softball team." ~ Tribune Co.

by Lou In Blue on Jul 31, 2007 10:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

probably, but we were winning
almost every game during that stretch. i do remember that soriano was 0 for everything.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Jul 31, 2007 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man - I hope its GOOD Marquis
Tonight!
It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 31, 2007 10:32 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

AL - Does Daryl Ward
remind you of the kind of player/role Randall Simon was in 2003?

Has anyone seen a progress report on Ward?

It would be great to get him back.

It is July, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Jul 31, 2007 10:33 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i think ward is more solid than simon,
better plate discipline, more consistent, though simon had a flair for the dramatic.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Jul 31, 2007 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed on all counts.
Ward's a useful player -- the Cubs could have used him last night, even as a LH hitter off Hamels. At the very least, he wouldn't have swung at the first pitch he saw (cough Cedeno cough).
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 31, 2007 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree
i have not commented in a long time...but some things really chap my ass. i can't believe no one has really commented on cedeno's at bat other than al. it was horrible and  further proof why he is useless to us. he came up in a big situation and had a chance to make it a game and weakly popped out on the first pitch. christ that was pathetic.
it takes two things to be a cubs fan...a sense of humor, and old style beer.

by markgraceismyhero on Jul 31, 2007 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its not only about his ability
to hit, Cedeno has zero baseball instincts and that you can't teach.

by cubsnlinux on Jul 31, 2007 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually, i think
he is too much of an instinctive player and not enough of an intellectual one, meaning: he sees a pitch to hit he swings; he sees a ball in the hole, he goes for it and whips it across the field; he goes full force into the bag, but doesn't worry about keeping his foot on the base at all times.

maybe someone should get him playing chess?

"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Jul 31, 2007 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would have
rather seen Lilly attempt to bunt the runners over.  
It's hard to be humble when you're number one.

by JF8 on Jul 31, 2007 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes!
That was my thought too.  Ronny couldn't have bunted too, but he probably would have screwed it up.

2nd and 3rd for Soriano?  Up the pressure for Hamels, sounds great to me.  

by IllinoisCubs on Jul 31, 2007 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ronnie
I'm not sure what to make of that guy.  When I see his face, it looks like he doesn't know where he's at or what he's supposed to do.  When I was a little kid growing up in Rogers Park, if I overslid a base or did some of the stupid things he's done, why all the neighborhood kids would have beaten me up.  How can he not have learned yet how to play baseball?  On the other hand Theriot seems to have the baseball instincts of a future hall-of-famer :-)

by zevkalman on Jul 31, 2007 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always enjoyed Randall simon hitting
It always made me happy seeing him make contact with balls that the catcher couldn't even catch.

by AJ on Jul 31, 2007 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Erin Andrews
No mention of her? She's got to be one of the more pleasing to the eye sideline reporters in all of sports.
Be sure to check out The View From The Bleachers

by viewfromthebleachers on Jul 31, 2007 11:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

...Ahhhh
(wipes drool off keyboard)
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Jul 31, 2007 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

real eye candy
She is extremely attractive, and I definitely could have seen more of her.  When she was in the Wrigley scoreboard, I was hoping for some better action shots, though :-)

by zevkalman on Jul 31, 2007 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes!
She walked up and down the asile in front of us a few times. Very impressive!
Well, sometimes nothin is a real cool hand.

by wicubfan on Jul 31, 2007 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no doubt. gorgeous. sat behind her at a game
at shea. i think the cubs were playing.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Jul 31, 2007 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

She is....
absolutely amazing looking.  She makes me feel warm inside.  :-)

by AJ on Jul 31, 2007 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Al
I sure hope you don't forget your Marquis Jersey...

Or did you last time and we still won?  I can't remember these things...

Tinker to Evers to Chance!

by sanantonecub on Jul 31, 2007 11:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They did win the last time.
But I'm wearing it tonight anyway. Don't want to take any chances.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 31, 2007 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Simon was...
One of my favorite role players ever as a Cub. He swung at everything and still came through. I loved seeing him come to the plate.

Glad to see that the sense of panic I feared would overtake this board today isn't here. It's only one game. And the Brewers are still choking dogs.

Hopefully, the Cardinals will gag on their own sanctimonious feathers.

I was hoping for a 2-2 split with the Phils. We can still do that.

by lancaster99 on Jul 31, 2007 11:13 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hamels was sharp... he'd make a great Cub :)
My only shock last night was that Theriot took one of Hamels' few mistakes and hit it into the left field bleachers.

Lilly seemed like he was struggling to find the (occasionally flexible) strike zone the whole night - surprised really that the Phillies only put four on the board.

I was scared for that kid ------- in right field when he hit the bullpen but - looked initially like he tore an Achilles... yikes.

Eaton and Marquis will be an interesting match up - Eaton's ERA inching higher over the years and Marquis making his bid this year to show he's not an Eaton.

This should make for a good series and tell us a good bit about what our teams made of. We'll see if our rotation can match up against some great hitters and see if our boys can take advantage of one of the weaker rotations out there.

Go Cubs.

'07 Postseason: Bears, Bulls... Cubs?

by stelmodad on Jul 31, 2007 12:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yea it was wierd.
i found my self feeling really bad and praying that he was ok. I mean after all he was hustling his ass off for the ball, so maybe that had somthing to do with it. But if he hits like a walk off today, im going to find him rough him up

by Kchance on Jul 31, 2007 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think what steve phillips said
was that if wood wasnt 100 % ready, then lou wouldnt  use him very frequently, like in back to back days and stuff like that, and that why the cubs would lose a player, on that note i have to say that steve phillips clearly knows nothing about baseball, and that why he cant get a job in any team, not even like a scout or something like that, on the other hand, TRADE MATT MURTON KNOW, we can get a decent reliver for him, and we dont need mat murton

by Alfonso on Jul 31, 2007 12:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree on Murton ....
he looked terrible yesterday & if we can bolster our bullpen for him then do it.

by Basman on Jul 31, 2007 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes Murton stunk
at the bat yesterday. However, his defense seems to have improved and his track record indicates he can be very productive.

I'd like to see Lou put him into the lineup for a week or so to see if he's going to help us this year. But, for some reason, Piniella seems not to like his play so it's really on Lou's plate to see if he stays or goes.

Josh Kroeger. Remember the name. Stay tuned for the fame.

by tharr on Jul 31, 2007 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everybody looked terrible...
Lets please not look at one game and make an argument about the worth of a player?

It was Murton's first start in the bigs since the beginning of June, and it happened to be against a VERY good pitcher - one of the best young pitchers in the game.

Everybody on the Cubs looked terrible yesterday.  Derrek Lee looked pretty bad yesterday too - maybe the Cubs should trade him!

by big_lowitzki on Jul 31, 2007 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Murton, like six other guys,
looked horrible at the plate.  But do we forget that his arm prevented two runs from scoring (though the one runner scored on the next pitch anyway).  I agree that he looked like a good right fielder last night.

Why don't we see what he can do with a few days in a row batting.  He has always been a batter who was patient with a good eye who could drive the ball.

Soriano: rub two of those big bats together and you will catch fire!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 31, 2007 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh
did you miss him airmailing the cutoff man?  He was lucky Theriot was there as a backup.

Drive the ball?  I can't remember the last time Murton drove the ball.  He's got 1 home run and 8 RBI's right now and his 1 home run was hit in the easiest park to hit home runs in the major leagues.  Take off the rose colored glasses.

by cubsbak on Jul 31, 2007 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shh
These red-head lovers only see what they want to.  The intensity of the red illuminating from the skull of Murton blinds them from his bad play.

by GoCubbies34 on Jul 31, 2007 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So while the two of you gang up on me...
I can point out that:
  1. I am not a Murton lover.  I could care less if the Cubs keep him or move him.
  2. My point was that he has his back to the play yet he hurled and made a strong throw back in.  Did he miss the front cut off man? Yes.  But it is a play with a trailing cut off man given that the outfielder has his back to the play and has to throw quickly.  The play is designed with the knowledge that the throw is likely to be off.  Murton's goal was to get it to the infield quickly.  Accuracy was the secondary goal.  Mission accomplished.
  3. For those of you who love to bash Murton's bat last night, I agree with the others that he worked counts better than most other batters on the team even if did make feeble outs.  If all the other batters would have had 5-6 pitch at bats, Hamels would not have made it through the 8th.
Soriano: rub two of those big bats together and you will catch fire!

by LAcarl519 on Jul 31, 2007 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Derrek Lee is hitting
80 points higher than Murton, won a batting title his last healthy season, and is a bona fide run producer.  What a ridiculous comparison.

by cubsbak on Jul 31, 2007 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The point is...
you shouldn't base much on what happened last night, considering that even DLee couldn't hit Hamels.  Clearly DLee is a much better and more proven hitter than Murton, and even he got shut down.

by SouthernCub on Jul 31, 2007 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay
can we base our opinion on the other 120 AB's this season?  Because he's looked terrible pretty much all year.

by cubsbak on Jul 31, 2007 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can base it on whatever you want...
I was just talking about the original poster's point, and saying that's WAY too small a sample to be considered fair.

If you want to base it on the ~120 AB this year, that's fine.  You could be right or wrong, but at least that's somewhat of a relevant sample.  But I think we can all agree that basing it on 4 AB in one game against a very good pitcher is silly.

by SouthernCub on Jul 31, 2007 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's silly
is comparing Matt Murton to Derrek Lee.  When discussing the game of baseball, that shouldn't be done EVER!!

by cubsbak on Jul 31, 2007 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty sure that was tongue-in-cheek...
I don't think he was really intending to compare Murton to Lee.  It wasn't worded great, but I think the point was more what I was saying (one game is too small a sample).  I don't think anyone on this board would say Murton is in Lee's category as a player.

by SouthernCub on Jul 31, 2007 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well
then he needs you to translate his posts.  My only objection to that post is the comparison of Murton to Lee, which I reiterate is absolutely ridiculous.  Sounds like you agree with that.

And yes, I believe there are certain insane fans on this board who are more than happy to put Murton into the same category as Derrek Lee.  

by cubsbak on Jul 31, 2007 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"translation"
This is what I originally said:

Everybody on the Cubs looked terrible yesterday.  Derrek Lee looked pretty bad yesterday too - maybe the Cubs should trade him!

Did you really take that seriously?  Do you really think that I meant that Derrek Lee should be traded?  You have to be kidding me.  

I am a huge Murton fan, but he is nowhere close to the player that Derrek Lee is.  And you asinine assertion that there are people on this board who would say they are comparable is foolish.  Find me one example of someone who has said that Derrek Lee and Murton have comparable talent.  Finding one should be pretty easy for you, considering it is as prevalent as you say.

Once again... I was responding to a ridiculous assertion that Murton should be be traded because he "looked terrible last night."  I simply pointed out that most the team looked terrible, including Derrek Lee, against a really good pitcher.  In turn it is foolish to come to a conclusion on Murton based on one game against a damn good pitcher.

by big_lowitzki on Aug 1, 2007 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?
I didn't compare the two, and you know it.

The original poster said something the effect of "Lets get rid of Murton, he looked terrible last night."  And that logic is foolish, and I pointed it out by saying that Lee also looked terrible?

Got it?

by big_lowitzki on Aug 1, 2007 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Wood isn't 100% ready...
... then he won't be activated.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Jul 31, 2007 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know you have a tix exchange, but...
I'm looking for 4 boxes for tonight 7/31, and have 2 terrace reserved avaiable for tomorrow night. Any interest kbusch at bloomberg dot net.  thanks
Well, sometimes nothin is a real cool hand.

by wicubfan on Jul 31, 2007 1:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

errgh
sorry  kbusch3 at bloomberg dot net
Well, sometimes nothin is a real cool hand.

by wicubfan on Jul 31, 2007 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Murton at least drew a walk!!
And did field ball off wall cleanly before missing the cutoff man before the Rowand HR.

Cedeno get talked to after that AB?? I hope so...just too good a pitch to pass up I guess but killed the inning.

Hoping for a happy outcome to today's tradewinds remember being outside Wrigley when got Nomar--it was a Saturday, I believe--and the place was buzzing. The ovation he got the next day when he took the field or his name was announced was one of the loudest of its kind I've ever heard; total appreciation and anticipation.

by writerinwrigley on Jul 31, 2007 2:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

An interesting point
if/when our beloved Cubbies make the playoffs, I don't think it's out of the question that once again, Marquis is left off of the playoff roster.  Though we all know he has had his bright spots, flat out, he has sucked the past couple months (the 'bad' Marquis has been constantly showing up).  Today is a huge start for him, no doubt

by lilkimmer77 on Jul 31, 2007 2:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Padres trade for Rob Mackowiak
AND

Also trade for Morgan Ensberg...

1-RUN GAMES = 14-17 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-6 | HOME = 27-24 | updated on 7/27

by SackMan on Jul 31, 2007 2:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ensberg
Ensberg was released, so couldn't anyone pick him up?

by cubs2234 on Jul 31, 2007 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah
nevermind:

"The Astros have 10 days to work a trade for or release Morgan Ensberg, who was designated for assignment."

by cubs2234 on Jul 31, 2007 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Theriot
I know that pretty much 99% of the people here at BCB have jumped on the Theriot bandwagon and are not planning on getting off soon.

But, how far do you see this kid going as a cub.  Personally I see him as a Sandburg at SS.  It is being made more clear everynight that he will not lose his job unless we sign some all-star SS or something.  Which bing me to the point that I am pretty sure that this kid can be an all-star himself one day.  Although we are in an era where home runs and RBIs are king, I can see Theriot being just a nasty hit machine with gold gloves and terrific speed.

I L O V E  The Riot!

by BMac on Jul 31, 2007 7:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It is Glavine's night
EVERYTHING is going his way for #300. I don't mind him, he is a classy guy. I just wish it wasn't at the Cubs expense on national TV.

Cubs offense is up and down lately. Kind of worrisome.

by bloomerang on Aug 5, 2007 9:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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