The Zeephus Pitch
That's what Mike termed Carlos Zambrano's two-strike floater that hit Brandon Phillips in the top of the seventh inning.
(If you don't know what an "Eephus Pitch" is, Wikipedia has a pretty good description. Yes, I know Z wasn't trying to throw that, but it sure came out that way.)
Turned out, one out later, that was the difference in the game, when Scott Hatteberg singled Phillips, who stole second off Jason Kendall, in with the Reds' sixth run. Despite a Cubs comeback, Mike Fontenot's drive to the wall in right -- which nearly everyone in the park thought was gone off the bat, and would have been gone had the early-game breeze continued -- was caught at the ivy by Norris Hopper, ten feet away from being a walkoff HR, and just like that the game was over, a 6-5 loss to the Reds.
Frustrating? Yes. But in this quirky season, it may not matter, in the long run -- as the Brewers' loss to the Cardinals, 12-4 last night, kept the Cubs only 1.5 games behind Milwaukee.
Yes, I am well aware that the 56-60 Cardinals are now only three games behind the Cubs. More on this later.
Did I say this season is quirky? It's far more than that. The Dodgers, who led Arizona by 1.5 games on July 26, have lost 13 of 16 and now trail the D'backs by 6.5 games. Meanwhile, the Diamondbacks, who have the best record in the league, lost 15-4 last night and have a negative run differential. And not just a run or two, either -- they have now allowed thirty more runs than they have scored, giving them a Pythagorean record projection of 57-63, ten games worse than their actual record. In general, things like this will tell you that the D'backs can't sustain what they are doing for too long.
The Brewers' loss last night also gives them a -5 run differential and a Pythagorean record of 59-60, while the Cubs' is 63-55 -- thus, if things were going "by the numbers", the Cubs should be 4.5 games in first place. (The Cardinals are even worse -- their Pythagorean record is 51-65, five games below their not-so-great W-L mark.)
Pythagoras doesn't play baseball, though: people do. At some point this sort of thing ought to be evening out. But we've been saying this most of the season and it hasn't happened yet. Does this mean the champion of the Comedy Central is going to have a losing record? Possible, I suppose. In the meantime the Cubs are going to have to start scoring runs by means other than solo HR -- of which they had three yesterday, including perhaps the longest of the year, a monstrous bomb onto Sheffield by Jacque Jones, who broke a tie with those other noted sluggers, Fontenot and Ryan Theriot, with his fourth of the year (the LSU duo each have three). It was nice to see Derrek Lee homer -- maybe, with Lou Piniella and Gerald Perry helping him figure out a flaw in his batting stance, he's going to bust out soon. Also nice was the return of Aramis Ramirez to the lineup; he made a couple of nice plays in the field and slammed a HR himself.
It wasn't enough, since Z was off his game -- giving up an alarming 13 hits, and having no strikeouts for the first time since the Michael Barrett meltdown game on June 1. (Those are, in fact, the only two games in which Z has failed to record a K since he joined the starting rotation on July 1, 2002.)
A razzberry to Carlos Marmol for giving up singles to the first three batters he faced in relief of Z, loading the bases. Big applause to Marmol for then striking out Jeff Keppinger looking, Ken Griffey Jr. swinging (on an absolutely filthy slider), and getting Brandon Phillips to fly to right, keeping the game close.
And I guess you have to give credit to Aaron Harang, who is, after all, one of the top starters in the league -- he kept the Cubs off-balance, apart from the HR, most of the evening, and they just couldn't get much other offense going. I know that Jim Hendry is still, even halfway through August, out there looking for a hitter. Perhaps former Cub Matt Stairs, who can still hit (.291/.363/.545 with 14 HR in 244 AB) and can still play the OF (all but two of his starts this year have been in the field) could be on the radar. (Not only that, but Stairs, from everything I've heard, is a great clubhouse guy.)
I've been someone who's said that the Cubs shouldn't make a move just to say they've done so, but they sure could have used Russell Branyan (who hit a pinch-hit, game-winning 2-run HR for the Phillies last night -- and they got him for virtually nothing from Cleveland), or Jose Cruz, who's still available. Jake Fox was recalled last night -- but not used. What's the point of having these kids on the roster if they're not going to play? Go out and get someone who's either going to start, or who's used to coming off the bench, which most players coming through the Cub farm system aren't.
Odd sights seen last night: several teenage boys and girls painting each other's chests (yes, the girls stayed in PG-13 mode) blue, with Cub numbers on their backs, including Alfonso Soriano's #12 (and the Cubs are now 2-7 since he's been hurt, including the game in which he was hurt -- I wouldn't have expected his loss to be that significant, but maybe it is). And a few other people sitting near the "blue kids", several rows beneath us, attempted to start a wave and were loudly shouted down by others in our section.
Oh, yes. The Cardinals. In 1969, a year after the Cardinals had won back-to-back pennants, they were languishing in third place in late July, 11.5 games behind the then-high-flying Cubs. They went on a mini-tear, winning sixteen of nineteen, and Harry Caray, then the Cardinals' lead radio broadcaster (yes, that's right, for those of you too young to remember, we Cubs fans of a certain age grew up knowing Harry as "the enemy" before he became beloved), would end every Cardinals' win by taunting Cubs fans: "The Cardinals are coming, tra la, tra la."
Well, as it turned out, they weren't: St. Louis never got closer than eight games out. It was another team the Cubs had to worry about in 1969, and of that, I think it best to say no more.
And in 2007, the Cubs are the team doing the chasing rather than the team being chased. It's almost imperative to win five of the six remaining games on this homestand. And tonight's weather forecast looks iffy, and at least one advance forecast has the temperature by Saturday no higher than 70.
There's a taste of fall on the way. If the Cubs want to taste baseball this fall, they'd better step up. Now.
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That ball off Fonenot's bat also might have
by N Oakley on Aug 15, 2007 8:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Al,
As for the next two weeks, I have had these circled on my calendar for some time. If any team goes on a tear between the Cubs-Cards-Brewers, they may get enough of a lead to hold on. Lee hitting was a good first step last night but we need Z to get back on track. This club has won as a team since June, we should not have to rely on one or two but everyone. Let's get this done.
by mrcubsfan on Aug 15, 2007 8:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Cards are the ones right now
by Ihatethecards on Aug 15, 2007 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A tear?
Because last I checked, the Cards were 6-6 in August. They got swept by the Nats just last week.
Sure... they are 5-1 in their last six games, but six games doesn't show a lot. They also lost five straight immediately before that.
by big_lowitzki on Aug 15, 2007 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree...
While i am not writing the Cardinals off and i am not writing off their recent success (because stringing a few wins together can motivate a team quickly), i think this is more a case of the Cubs and Brewers are slowing down a bit. If the Cubs and Brewers play .500 this past week, the Cards are not even discussed. The good thing about the Cards is that we still play them 8 more times! So if they fully come into the picture we hold our own fate with them.
by HIGGY on Aug 15, 2007 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Addition
by krummy12 on Aug 15, 2007 9:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hot
I didn't see the game last night but it's odd how a team can get out-hit and out-struckout as much as the Cubs and still only lose by 1 (as well as by 10 feet from the last swing of the game). Theriot seems to be pressing too hard. Maybe he's the next candidate for a day or two off.
by SpudV on Aug 15, 2007 9:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not quite...
Not quite Al. The stolen base was not off Kendall at all. He actually made a perfect throw, and Theriot just dropped it.
by big_lowitzki on Aug 15, 2007 9:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
technically
But your right...Kendall shouldn't take the blame for that SB but it still goes on his stats
by jds2 on Aug 15, 2007 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True.
Phillips might have been called safe anyway. It was a very close play.
by Al on Aug 15, 2007 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really...
It wasn't that close - if Theriot catches the ball he is clearly out.
by big_lowitzki on Aug 15, 2007 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did look at the screen...
Looked pretty close. Theriot should have made the play, I agree.
by Al on Aug 15, 2007 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
by krummy12 on Aug 15, 2007 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
last night
Additionally (I am not trying to be nit-picky), when Aaron Harang was sacrificing with two on and no out in the 4th inning, the Cubs did not put the wheel play on. This is the ideal spot for the wheel. We trailed by two runs, Harang had a perfect game to that point and he is a very slow runner. Not to mention a very athletic Z on the mound. Of course he bunts the ball to a perfect spot that would have had the runner out easily at third and changed that entire inning. Maybe even no runs scored.
The Cubs are a good team, but not nearly good enough to win games with these types of mistakes.
I feel better now.
by gocubsgo22 on Aug 15, 2007 9:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice recap, Al
- Theriot takes a walk on ball four instead of swinging and popping out, and JJones now has a TWO run HR, instead of another solo one. IS that on Quade?
- Lou lifts a tired and clueless Z before the run-scoring single (with the warmed-up LH, Piggy) and perhaps the tack-on run is stranded as well.
This was not "Skip's" best game this year either, imo.
by TheEman on Aug 15, 2007 9:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Z seemed to be losing it, too...
I love his passion but he really does have to stop letting little stuff get to him.
by Al on Aug 15, 2007 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I used to love his passion
by GoCubbies34 on Aug 15, 2007 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sucking lately?
by TC Cubby on Aug 15, 2007 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bad games when we need them the most!!
by Itchy on Aug 15, 2007 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a legitimate argument
by TC Cubby on Aug 15, 2007 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 - kind of
I would say that seven walks sucks.
by big_lowitzki on Aug 15, 2007 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Z needs to be better
by lohroffc on Aug 15, 2007 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is still time
by qccub on Aug 15, 2007 9:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna use that quote
by Teacherdave on Aug 15, 2007 9:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Blue Jays inking...........
Not only was Stairs about a quarter-of-a-mil cheaper, but he's just a better all-around player.
Don't want to dig in the BCB archives, but I said back in December that Stairs was a better choice. Daryl Ward has done nothing over the past 9 months to change my opinion.
by tville on Aug 15, 2007 9:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ward's decent...
Toronto's likely going nowhere and I'm reasonably certain Stairs has cleared waivers. Go get him.
by Al on Aug 15, 2007 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish ....
geez, was Marmol showing off? LOL
by coral on Aug 15, 2007 9:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
from Eephus to Gyroball
Jeff Samardzija: Tezuka says he probably throws it because he is used to throwing a football, and the spin is the same.
by jds2 on Aug 15, 2007 9:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Unlike June and July Cubs are not playing
This will be interesting since the Brewers are losing badly while the Cardinals are beginning to grind.
by Ivy Walls on Aug 15, 2007 9:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate August...
And Al...what I wouldn't give for Ron Mahay and Luis Castillo right about now.
by Damen Jackson on Aug 15, 2007 9:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mahay and Castillo?
by Al on Aug 15, 2007 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lord yes...
by Damen Jackson on Aug 15, 2007 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
by Al on Aug 15, 2007 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No they didn't....
by Damen Jackson on Aug 15, 2007 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO
He's not great, but neither is he horrid, and the Cubs can use his bat.
by Al on Aug 15, 2007 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw the play...
by Damen Jackson on Aug 15, 2007 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not certain I called it "running"
by N Oakley on Aug 15, 2007 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This team looks tired and tight.....
We still have at least two weeks to go without Sori and that is if everything goes perfectly.
I was at the game and as soon as we saw Z throw his helment we knew he was done mentally for the night..
by JB 23 on Aug 15, 2007 9:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Crow tastes good
Mr. Ward, you made a good play on the shot down the line to not just get to the ball, but get there early enough to make the catch.
by N Oakley on Aug 15, 2007 10:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Al,
The Cardinals were chasing an extremely hot Mets team, and a Cubs team that was off to an amazing start.
The NL Central is a snail's race. It doesn't/won't/will not resemble the 1969 race in any way shape or form.
If anything, this might resemble the crapshoot that was the 1973 NL East race, where 5 teams were still in the race with two weeks left. For all you kids out there, go to www.retrosheet.org to see the madness of that race.
The Cardinals CAN catch Chicago and Milwaukee because both teams are garbage right now.
AND, for all the kids out there who are holding out hope that the Cubs can duplicate what the Cardinals did last year, just keep this in mind.
There have been 102 World Champions in baseball history. The worst record to EVER win the world championship was by the St. Louis Cardinals. SO< you're telling me that only ONCE in 102 chances a team won under 85 games and won the championship...that if the Cubs made the playoffs under 85 wins that they would have a shot? NO, kids. The chances are written on paper. It's a 1/102 shot. ANd if you believe that THAT can happen AND that it can happen in back to back years, I feel sorry for you.
I really do.
I love this team, I love the Cubs, but seriously, pack the bags, enjoy the ride, and get ready for a title shot in '08.
by jdoolsiu on Aug 15, 2007 10:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sigh.
Other than that, no, there aren't really any comparisons.
The difference between this year and last year, when an 83-win team won the title, is that there are NO dominant teams in the NL (if you read my post carefully, you'll note that I point out that the team that currently has the best record in the NL has a horrendous negative run differential). Thus ANY NL team that gets into the playoffs has a shot at winning the NL title.
I should point out that of the three other teams since divisional play to have made the postseason with 85 wins or less (1973 Mets, 1984 Royals, 1987 Twins), two of them took the World Series to seven games.
Don't give up yet. Or, give up if you want to. I won't.
by Al on Aug 15, 2007 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this year's chances
if you feel sorry for the fans that choose to remain hopeful, go ahead. but it is fallacious to say that last year's events have any impact on this year's.
by numike on Aug 15, 2007 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Odds
I really do."
So if you had posted this on the Cardinals site last year would their fans have given up all hope seeing as how according to your logic, they would have had a 0% chance of winning? It's a pennant race right now and like Al said with the NL as open as ever, ENJOY THE RIDE! The Cardinals proved last year that if you get hot at the right time, anything can happen. Yeah, the odds are stacked against the Cubs (and every NL team for that matter), but if the Cubs win it this year, it'll only make it that much sweeter.
If you've truly given up hope already? well then I feel sorry for you. I really do. You must lead a miserable life.
by RynoHoF on Aug 15, 2007 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its not as unlikely as you make it out
by JonH on Aug 15, 2007 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What??
by cubboy89 on Aug 15, 2007 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's silly
You have to look at the odds of winning once an 85 team has made the playoffs, not after. Otherwise it would be sort of like going back to 1997 and telling the Marlins they had no chance of winning the World Series because in 95 years no Wild Card team had ever won the world series.
by Wreckard on Aug 15, 2007 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the recap Al, but
I want to see the boys make the Cinci pitcher tonight look like the rookie he is and not Cy Young. Shouldn't be asking for too much. Right?
by N Oakley on Aug 15, 2007 10:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Right.
by Al on Aug 15, 2007 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In this circumstance, something simple...
by N Oakley on Aug 15, 2007 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I could read and process at the same
"From" being the game they should have won yesterday.
by N Oakley on Aug 15, 2007 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Youngsters
don't you know Al, Lou and Jim are trying to see if they can use every minor league players options up before the end of the season?
That way we can be forced to DFA all these guys 3 years from now when they're completely out of options and we need to make roster room
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 15, 2007 10:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
One game...
And lets be honest - Fox isn't being called up to be an everyday starter. Which probably isn't a bad thing, being that Fox is mediocre, at best, defensively.
by big_lowitzki on Aug 15, 2007 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm not saying Fox should play
we keep calling up guys to essentially sit on the bench for 3-4 days and then sending them back down
there seems to be little rhyme or reason to the strategy other than throwing mud at the wall and hoping something sticks
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 15, 2007 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Options...
by big_lowitzki on Aug 15, 2007 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
really?
how long do you have to be up for an option to technically be used?
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 15, 2007 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
20 days...
by big_lowitzki on Aug 15, 2007 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Minor League Options Remaining, Courtesy AZ PHIL
MINOR LEAGUE OPTION STATUS (8-6-2007):
* Can only be optioned to minors after clearing Optional Waivers
NO MINOR LEAGUE OPTIONS LEFT
Koyie Hill
ONE MINOR LEAGUE OPTION LEFT
Ronny Cedeno (will be out of minor league options in 2008)
Angel Guzman (see NOTE below)
Rich Hill
- Roberto Novoa
- Will Ohman
* Michael Wuertz
TWO MINOR LEAGUE OPTIONS LEFT
* Neal Cotts (will have one minor league option left in 2008)
Brian Dopirak (will have one minor league option left in 2008)
Mike Fontenot (will have one minor league option left in 2008)
Carlos Marmol (will have one minor league option left in 2008)
Scott Moore (will have one minor league option left in 2008)
Angel Pagan (will have one minor league option left in 2008)
Felix Pie (will have one minor league option left in 2008)
Ryan Theriot
THREE MINOR LEAGUE OPTIONS LEFT
Rocky Cherry (will have two minor league options left in 2008)
Buck Coats (will have two minor league options left in 2008)
Jake Fox (will have two minor league options left in 2008 if he is not recalled by 8-16-07)
Sean Gallagher (will have two minor league options left in 2008)
Sean Marshall (will have two minor league options left in 2008)
Juan Mateo (will have two minor league options left in 2008)
Matt Murton (will have two minor league options left in 2008)
Billy Petrick (will have two minor league options left in 2008)
Clay Rapada (will have two minor league options left in 2008)
FOUR MINOR LEAGUE OPTIONS LEFT
Jeff Samardzija (will have three minor league options left in 2008)
NOTE: Angel Guzman will have that 4th option year available again next year because he still has not spent five full seasons on an active minor league and/or major league roster. (A "full sesaon" is defined as 60 consecutive days on an MLB or full-season minor league club roster from Opening Day, or 90 days aggregate on an active roster MLB and/or minor league rosters in a given season, and Guzman somehow still has not done that).
Also, Jeff Samardzija gets four option years, as long as he uses them all before the 2012 season, because he will not have spent five full seasons on a minor league and/or major league roster until after the 2011 sesason (at the earliest).
>>>>>
As you see, Jake Fox now will have only one left. But, at least unlike the former manager, Lou will actually try the callups and see how they perform.
by TheEman on Aug 15, 2007 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope...
Fox will not have one of his options used up, because he was called up by 8/16.
This means that he will still have THREE options, not one.
by big_lowitzki on Aug 15, 2007 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DOH!
I sit corrected.
by TheEman on Aug 15, 2007 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should post this in the diary about Soto.
by Fraggin Judge on Aug 15, 2007 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not why...
An option is for a year, meaning that you can move a player back and forth as many times as you want in one year and only use one option.
by big_lowitzki on Aug 15, 2007 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks
So if Soto was called up in September would his option have been used this season or not?
Of all the players it seems like using Soto's option the way that it was this year seems the silliest
and for clarity's sake:
you mentioned the player has to stay 20 days in the minors for the player to be "optioned"
so could a player be yo-yo-ed up and down all season long and never have an option used?
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 15, 2007 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Total time
Options are not used when you call someone up (whether in September or not); they are only used when sending someone down.
by big_lowitzki on Aug 15, 2007 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
thanks for the clarification
very very helpful
and only 1 option can be used per year right?
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 15, 2007 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct
by big_lowitzki on Aug 15, 2007 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cedeno
His minor league numbers are fantastic in AAA and certainly suggest there's some potential there but it doesn't seem he'll be given another opportunity to prove that talent
looks like he's destined to be in the utility type role and then maybe one day realize the talent with another major league club
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 15, 2007 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not real sure about that
by hawkeyenation on Aug 15, 2007 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
granted
he got a shot in 2006 and wasnt very good for an extended time
i'm simply suggesting that using that option this year on Cedeno and him now not having anymore options makes it more likely that if he ever does realize that potential it wont be with the Cubs
because they won't be able to send him back down again next season
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 15, 2007 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
by hawkeyenation on Aug 15, 2007 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice post
by Calhoun on Aug 15, 2007 10:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Josh Hamilton vs. Floyd...
Hamilton:
214 AB |AVG .285 | HR 14 | RBI 31 | OBP .374 | SLG .542
Floyd:
217 AB | AVG .290 | HR 4 | RBI 36 | OBP .366 | SLG .382
by seang03 on Aug 15, 2007 10:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
while
its also kind of unfair
the guy hadnt played above A ball, ever
and hadnt played professionally in 4 years
it was impossible to project he'd be able to do this and furthermore the Cubs would've had to keep him on the roster the whole year, given Lou's inclination to fiddling with the lineup and roster, it probably would've been difficult to manage
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 15, 2007 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh...
The Cubs had no interest in Hamilton. Hamilton had been completely out of baseball for a couple of years, and few people thought he would perform as well as he has this year.
The Reds made a good move to get him, and their risk has paid off. Lets leave it at that.
by big_lowitzki on Aug 15, 2007 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just think...
It's hardly a risk considering he's making 380K this year. They could have kept him in the minors if they wanted. There's no risk there at all. It was more of a risk with us signing an oft-injured Floyd for 3M.
Hendry had no interest because he had no plan and it's as simple as that. It was pretty much like lets just sign whoever and see how they fit in.
I never really even cared they gave him up I think it's just something to think about considering he's exactly what we're looking for right now.
by seang03 on Aug 15, 2007 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction:
by seang03 on Aug 15, 2007 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
and if he's not hurt and you put him on the DL you risk a greivance being filed by the players association
really there was little chance of Hamilton ever working out as a Cub and given his history and the limited roster flexibility we already had, there was little reason for Hendry not to just take the cash
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 15, 2007 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And
by krummy12 on Aug 15, 2007 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just the Royals GM...
by seang03 on Aug 15, 2007 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So
by krummy12 on Aug 15, 2007 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To say Hendry "had no plan"
by El Borto on Aug 15, 2007 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on...
Meanwhile, the Reds were in a perfect spot to take that chance. They have a rebuilding team in a low-pressure environment. They have veteran starters in the OF. Essentially, it was a no-risk situation for them. Much easier to take that chance when there's no pressure than to take that chance when you're trying to win now.
by SouthernCub on Aug 15, 2007 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tra la, la, la
by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on Aug 15, 2007 11:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't 64 the year
by cubsbak on Aug 15, 2007 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't remember that...
by Reverend Jim Ignatowski on Aug 15, 2007 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The back was broken...
Yes, that's Robb Nen's father.
by Al on Aug 15, 2007 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I HATE Matt Stairs
by riverryne on Aug 15, 2007 11:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We almost stole a game we shouldn't have won
by SackMan on Aug 15, 2007 11:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tough to win
by cubsbak on Aug 15, 2007 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed...
by SouthernCub on Aug 15, 2007 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've got to move past the horrible outing by Z
by SackMan on Aug 15, 2007 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's baseball
by cubsbak on Aug 15, 2007 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes we had a chance...
The offense was effective in June/July, but hasn't been good in August. These things come and go. But your ace giving up 15 baserunners just shouldn't happen.
by SouthernCub on Aug 15, 2007 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
demoralizing loss
by cubboy89 on Aug 15, 2007 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Prince Fielder suspended three games...
by eamuscatuli1881 on Aug 15, 2007 12:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am so upset about this that I could eat
by zevkalman on Aug 15, 2007 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I imagine he'll appeal.
by Al on Aug 15, 2007 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be great
by hawkeyenation on Aug 15, 2007 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he is suspended for the Cubs series
by zevkalman on Aug 15, 2007 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry you won't have to
by GoCubbies34 on Aug 15, 2007 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
man..
by tbizzle83 on Aug 15, 2007 12:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
by lostinthevines on Aug 15, 2007 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All this talk about cheeseburgers, Fielder,
Pitcher - David Wells
Catcher - Pudge (Name Only)
1st - Prince or Cecil
2nd, SS - Has there ever been a big 2b or SS
3b - ?
RF - Tony Gwynn
CF - Kirby Puckett
LF - Where do you start?
by N Oakley on Aug 15, 2007 2:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Beck in relief?
by Ryno8 on Aug 15, 2007 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where's Luzinski?
by lostinthevines on Aug 15, 2007 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Via Baseball Reference:
by Ryno8 on Aug 15, 2007 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crap!
by lostinthevines on Aug 15, 2007 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scary thing is 6-1 225 used to be huge for a
by N Oakley on Aug 15, 2007 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3B
by cubsfan4life on Aug 15, 2007 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always picture him as the
by N Oakley on Aug 15, 2007 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was his first or second year in the Bigs
by cubsfan4life on Aug 15, 2007 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
'Roids
by cubfaninSTL on Aug 15, 2007 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this gets thrown around
Cabrera has gained a ton of fat not muscle
and if you grew up your entire life in Venezuela making next to nothing, played in the minor leagues making next to nothing, and then came up to the big leagues with full clubhouse spreads and huge salaries.... there is a decent chance you'd put on weight as well
clearly Miggy's let it get a bit out of control and its significantly impacting his defense, but to just throw steroids out as the only possible reason seems a bit lazy and careless
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 15, 2007 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed..
by cubsfan4life on Aug 15, 2007 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever
by cubfaninSTL on Aug 15, 2007 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good one, I also thought of
by N Oakley on Aug 15, 2007 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good time to...
by bloodindableachers on Aug 15, 2007 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and due to a lack of large shortstops...
by numike on Aug 15, 2007 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ronnie Belliard
by El Borto on Aug 15, 2007 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Prince Feilder suspended 3 games
by jds2 on Aug 15, 2007 3:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Look above...
by big_lowitzki on Aug 15, 2007 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I imagine he'll appeal.
by Al on Aug 15, 2007 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Update.
by Al on Aug 15, 2007 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Prince Feilder suspended 3 games...
;-)
by TheEman on Aug 15, 2007 3:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cubs are two games over
Z needs to throw well when we need a big win. Cubs drop two in a row, and he gives up 13 hits and no K's. An ace he is not, but will get paid like one, and to who?
Cubs need wins , period, Lets go tonight.
by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Aug 15, 2007 3:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Cards aren't the team
by billybuck on Aug 15, 2007 3:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It seems to me
by BigJohnAZ on Aug 21, 2007 7:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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