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Home Runs? Who Needs Home Runs?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this team's offense -- that's for those of you who have been crying out for the Cubs to acquire anyone from Ken Griffey Jr. to Jermaine Dye to Matt Stairs (OK, I'm guilty of that last one myself).

The Cubs pounded out twenty hits today -- not a single one of them a home run -- and took care of the Reds, at last, with a convincing 12-4 win, moving within half a game of first place in the NL Central as the wheezing, but still leading, Brewers got shut out 8-0 by the Cardinals in Milwaukee, getting swept and outscored 28-7 in the three games.

That's right, not a single home run produced twelve runs. The Cubs smashed nine doubles to go with eleven singles; Mark DeRosa had his best day as a Cub with a 5-for-5 day (I heard the WGN radio highlight driving home, and DeRosa got his fifth hit right after Ron Santo asked Pat Hughes whether he'd ever had a five-for-five day, and immediately they BOTH said, "He does now!") and four RBI; Ryan Theriot had perhaps the biggest blow in the 7-run 8th inning with a two-run double (he also scored what was the lead and eventual winning run in the fourth inning after running through a stop sign from 3B coach Mike Quade; scored easily when the throw was offline); Aramis Ramirez also had four hits, raising his average to .322, and Jacque Jones added four of his own, moving his average to a season-high .276 (tacking on eight points today alone). I was gratified when Jones was removed for pinch-runner Felix Pie and got a warm ovation; he tipped his helmet to the crowd. It took a year and three-quarters (since today, the 120th game of the year, essentially marks the 3/4 milepost of the season), but Jones seems at last to be accepted, if not liked, by Cubs fans.

He ought to be, for his performance since the All-Star break: in 29 games (including today's big day) he's hitting .364/.420/.533 with 12 doubles, 2 HR and 24 RBI.

Now explain again to me why the Cubs need more hitters? They scored 26 runs and got 36 hits in the three games against the Reds; if there had been a little more wind on Tuesday and a little better relief pitching on Wednesday, we'd be celebrating a sweep in first place. The only discordant note today was Derrek Lee, who went 0-for-5 and looked bad doing it; I think it wouldn't hurt to give him tomorrow off, just so perhaps he'll stop pressing so much.

This is why I think the Cubs can indeed take care of business this weekend and take three of four from the Cardinals. I like the pitching matchups (and you can bet the ESPN folks are going to have a field day with reaction shots from Z on Sunday night):

Friday: Looper vs. Hill
Saturday: Reyes vs. Marshall
Sunday: Wells vs. Zambrano
Monday: Piniero vs. Lilly
Back to today, for a moment: the Cubs took the early lead with four of the nine doubles in the first inning, but Jason Marquis coughed it up in the second, losing his concentration after getting pitcher Bobby Livingston down 0-2 and walking him. That seemed to unhinge him; he hit Josh Hamilton with the bases loaded, then gave up a RBI single to Jeff Keppinger and another to Ken Griffey Jr., but Keppinger inexplicably stopped at second base, while Griffey thought he was heading to third; Griffey backpedaled but was tagged out. That play seemed to settle Marquis down and he got Brandon Phillips to ground out to end the inning.

After that Marquis threw well for four more innings, allowing two walks and two harmless doubles, before being pulled after the second of those walks led off the seventh. Scott Eyre, Carmen Pignatiello (in his major league debut, facing Adam Dunn, as he should have done last night, and getting him to ground into the exaggerated infield shift; the ball couldn't have been rolled out there better and Dunn beat it out), and Ryan Dempster shut the Reds down for the last three innings.

It was a coolish, cloudy afternoon, though thankfully no rain fell; a few of the Air Force Thunderbirds, rehearsing for this weekend's Chicago Air & Water Show, buzzed the ballpark before the game started. They do this most every year; the most memorable one was about ten years ago, when one of the Thunderbirds flew literally about 100 feet above the upper deck, splitting the light standards; pitcher Steve Trachsel, on the mound and not expecting to see that at that moment, actually ducked. (I believe the game in question was this one.) BCB reader DTJChris, in from Minnesota, sat with us this afternoon -- nice to meet you -- and Mark and a friend of his tagged along; since there was no BP they spent the pregame time trying to get autographs. They came back with balls signed by the Reds' Norris Hopper, and also Ronny Cedeno and Ryan Theriot.

Finally, I wanted to address something that was, legitimately and reasonably, brought up by Chuck from Ivy Chat in the comment thread. He pointed out that if I say today was a "must-win" game, that if the Cubs didn't win, would that mean the season was over?

Of course not, I answered, and I think the problem here is one of terminology, not desire. I think what Chuck's saying is that a game should only be labeled "must-win" if it is, for example, a game that you must win to get into the postseason, like this one, or to get into the World Series, like this one, or to win the World Series itself, like this one.

Point conceded, Chuck. I won't label individual regular season games "must-win" any more (unless, say, it's the last game of the year and the Cubs "must win" to avoid going home for the winter). But we now need a BCB term to indicate a game like this, which was a really-truly-in-the-worst-way-possible-like-to-win-because-it-really-would-feel-awful-if-you-lost game.

You see the problem here, I think. TCCubby in the comments suggested "mojo game" or "statement game" ... hmmmm. Not sure I'm crazy about either of those. "Turnaround game"? Anyone like that? If you've got something better, leave it in the comments; maybe I'll put up a poll with some of the better suggestions.

Anyway, as Mike said to me during the 7-run eighth, it was enough drama; once Theriot made the score 10-4, that was probably "blow-proof", and DeRosa's fifth hit made it a genuine no-brainer, something this club badly needed.

We have the biggest series here in three years beginning tomorrow. Let's win it.

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I'm suggesting "JGTDHI"...
  "Just Got to Damn Have It" games.

by Damen Jackson on Aug 16, 2007 5:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL
Not bad!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 16, 2007 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm liking it or..
A gotta win game.  Doesn't feel as urgent as must.

by shawonfan on Aug 16, 2007 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BIG-MOE game
since it is momentum that you are seeking
Milw-09-24-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Aug 16, 2007 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about
a "much needed win"?

Great win today. Hopefully they have some hits left for tomorrow.

I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 16, 2007 5:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I decided to look at the Cards schedule
The rest of the August schedule about even, as far as quality of opponents. In September its much tougher for the Cards than the Cubs.

Aside from the regulars:

Reds
Pirates
Astros

The Cards play at Arizona the 7th-9th Fri-Sun
Day off Mon.  then play 21 games in the last 20 days of the season.
They play the Phillies at home 3 games then Hou 4 games. The last week at Mil, 1 game at Mets, then finish at Pitt.
The last week Cubs play at Fla and finish at Cin.

Advantage Cubs

But the biggest factor to win this division will be the 8 games we play against each other.

We will see some beautiful things come the fall.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Aug 16, 2007 5:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Um
With the way we seem to play against the Reds and Marlins, that should never be called an advantage.
1-RUN GAMES = 15-19 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-7 | HOME = 31-30 | updated on 8/16

by SackMan on Aug 16, 2007 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get it....
...why anyone would be so petty as to take issue over someone else calling it a "must win" game. These types of sayings can mean different things to different people. Hughes and Santo called today's game a must win the entire broadcast with the tacit inference being if they don't, they're back to .500, St. Louis gets thatmuch closer, and much of the progress they've made will be negated because another loss will put a period on their recent slide. It surely doesn't mean the season's over of they lose, but they would have to cover some of the same ground they previously had crossed. I would agree with that assessment. To insist on another definition is to argue for the sake of it.
Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Aug 16, 2007 6:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I Couldn't Agree More
There are "must-win" games all through the season.  I suspect that Chuck has a penchant for picking fly crap out of pepper.  The term "must win," even if taken literally, can apply to almost any game, the results of which could make the difference by a major swing of momentum or a game that could easily be a "statement."  there are myriad other examples short of Chuck's read on things.

Remember, any word or phrase has both denotation and conotation.  The conotation of a word or phrase is often subject to cultural nuance.  In this particular instance, anyone within the sphere of common sense understands that "must win" does not mean the difference with making or winning the division, league or championship but that it could given the correct situation.

Methinks, especially after reading so many of Chucks immensely flawed (both editorially and logically)posts that to allow your knee to jerk in his direction on this issue is somewhat ludicrous.  You are much smarter than that Al.

And so it goes.

by Luigi on Aug 16, 2007 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OTOH
if all Al is looking for is a reason for coining a new term, than go for it.  Bending to Chuck's view of things, however, is not a good enough reason.
And so it goes.

by Luigi on Aug 16, 2007 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it'd be fun...
... given that this was made an "issue" (quotes deliberate), to coin our own BCB phrase for such games.

So, let's indeed go for it.

How about "go for it game"?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 16, 2007 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That Being the Case
how about a "Cubs game?"
And so it goes.

by Luigi on Aug 16, 2007 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree
I back Chuck up on this one.  The point is not to argue, but everytime I read "must win" I apply the literal definition of must, ie, a requirement or necessity, not a "we really need it but we're not in trouble if we don't win."  So it seems illogical to hear Al call it a "must win" and then say "don't panic" when the Cubs lose.

If you read Chuck's post, it was not mean spirited or argumentative.  

by TC Cubby on Aug 16, 2007 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When are (we) Cub Fans...
Ever going to get the mentality the EVERY GAME is a MUST WIN game.....and I centainly hope that is the attitude in the clubhouse of the Cubs...
The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Aug 16, 2007 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK... good things could happen this weekend
For starters... St. Louis is sending 4 righties out to the hill against us. Considering that we can't hit lefties at all... that's a good outlook.

JJ is suddenly hot, and his lines vs Cards
vs Looper = .444 in 9 ABs
vs Reyes = .167 in 6 ABs
vs Wells = .450 in 20 ABs
vs Pineiro = .355 in 31 ABs

1-RUN GAMES = 15-19 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-7 | HOME = 31-30 | updated on 8/16

by SackMan on Aug 16, 2007 6:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's a good sign.
So is the fact that the Cubs DID hit a lefty -- Livingston -- hard today (eleven hits).

They also got three solid hits off Mike Stanton.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 16, 2007 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW... the most humiliating stat of the year
David Weathers vs Cubs = 5 out of 6 in Save opps with a win (in his blown save opp).

PUKE.

It's David Friggin Weathers for crying outloud. We let this guy rack up 5 saves against us this year! $##@#$##&T^fyg^$%^

1-RUN GAMES = 15-19 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-7 | HOME = 31-30 | updated on 8/16

by SackMan on Aug 16, 2007 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's more sick
Is we can't beat the Reds for the life of us.

by shawonfan on Aug 16, 2007 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bad timing....
We got the Reds early, before they went 20-games-blow-.500-into-the-toilet-and-fired the manager.

In the first 3 weeks of April, the Reds were competitive. In June to July 2 -- horrid.

Now, they are an above-500 team since July 2nd, as I pointed out in today's game post.

Let's see how they perform in the final 6 - 3 here the 3rd week of September...and the final three of the season....in GAP.

And, at the same time -- the Brewers finish with 4 at home against the Padres...who knows where both of those teams will be by then??

(The Redbirds will be dead by then, book it. Really.)

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 16, 2007 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish I had as much confidence...
as you.....

What's the line on the TURDS being gone by week 3 September?

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Aug 16, 2007 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you miss the postseason by one game
wasnt at least one of the lets say 80+ you lost a must win?
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 16, 2007 6:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes
the last one
Dang...I just want something to root for in September

by GamePenguin on Aug 16, 2007 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about...
KB&TN game - kick butt and take names game

OCOWA game - open can of whoop ass game

GLDL game - good Lord don't lose game

TMB game - team morale builder game

PDEMSBL game - please don't eat my soul by losing game (just joking on this one!....kinda)

fly your W flag Cubs fans!

by love the ivy on Aug 16, 2007 6:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

PDS game-
please don't suck
"I never take a game home with me. I leave it in some bar along the way." -Bob Lemon, from Sweet Lou

by section229beer on Aug 16, 2007 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Outfield vs. righties??
w/o Floyd presumably until, maybe, Sunday, wondering who we trot out in OF against Card righties?? Dare we start Pie and Floyd both? I don't like 2 RH hitters vs. righty starters...could Fox go down and another lefty bat for OF get called up?? Who would be our best bet for that position? Coats?? Patterson didn't look great in limited duty last week.

by writerinwrigley on Aug 16, 2007 6:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

When Floyd returns...
... I imagine Fox goes back to Iowa.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 16, 2007 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is Jones OK?? Hope not hurt!!
Strange the way he pulled something on last AB and had to come out...hope it's not serious he really has been hitting great this last month or so since getting regular PT.

I always thought Lou "gave up'' a little quick on both JJ and Murton in their early struggles...they really never got chance to play every day for weeks on end...similar with Izturis but we made the right call there even if get nothing no way could he match The Riot (our MVP this year along with DeRosa & Marmol as turnaround player).

Beating Cards 3 of 4 very possible hope it happens but there's a 50% chance or better of a split, maybe 75% chance (would be interested to see stats of 4-game series across baseball and how they usually turn out).

Of course it is Cubs-Cards so anything can happen!! Take it to them like we did in '03!

by writerinwrigley on Aug 16, 2007 6:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Could one say
the first game of the Cards series is a "must win?"  I would.  It seems to me that momentum currently favors St. Louis.  The Cubs taking game one both makes a statement and shifts momentum back to us.
And so it goes.

by Luigi on Aug 16, 2007 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But if we win
The other three games, it doesn't matter and the Cardinals didn't really have the momentum to begin with...

by IllinoisCubs on Aug 17, 2007 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most memorable Wrigley Air Show
for me was 8/16/03 vs. Houston (i think, as I'm trying to put together memories with online dates).  

AGon hit a two run homer off brad lidge in the 8th to put the game and series away.  As he crossed home and the roar of the crowd started to die, a ripping explosion descended on wrigley.  I'm under the mezzanine cover and didn't catch any glimpse of an aircraft.  Instead, I thought someone had bombed the addison red line station.  Other fans were duckin, too, and more than one remarked about retiring the underwear they were wearing that day.  

There hadn't been any other plane warmups that day, and the air force sure made their presence felt at a helluva moment during the game.  Not only did it leave an impression on all the astros that were getting swept out of wrigley, it left me with another memorable moment from a season full of them.

I love when the Cubs are home for the Air Show, though watching it whilst playing Marovitz golf course is also very cool.

"I never take a game home with me. I leave it in some bar along the way." -Bob Lemon, from Sweet Lou

by section229beer on Aug 16, 2007 6:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How about
naming the games along the lines of the Cubs' ticket pricing policies. For example, you have "value games," which are games you should win, you have "premium games," which are the games in which a win is much needed or very important, and then you have "Wrigley Field Premium Ticket Services" games, which are games in which the very existence of the team hangs in the balance.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Aug 16, 2007 7:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This is a good idea
fly your W flag Cubs fans!

by love the ivy on Aug 16, 2007 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those are
both good suggestions.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 16, 2007 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about...
...we call the "must win" games "Douglas".

Why not?

feels like laundry

by wally on Aug 16, 2007 7:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Been traveling the past couple days
Can someone tell me why Lou pulled Lilly in Wed's game? Reading the boxscore and watching highlights, noting he retired his last 7 batters, I could only imagine it was his near 130-pitch outing against the Rockies in his previous start.

I like the thought that a little wind out of the West on Tue and better relief pitching yesterday would give the Cubs a sweep today.  But figure if Lou had left Lilly in at least through the 6th on Wed after throwing 'only' 85 pitches through 5 (not bad for having given up 6ER) maybe they would not have had to rely on the relievers so much.

da-da-daddio

by blackhawk24 on Aug 16, 2007 7:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He STILL (Lou) has not said
He threw over 120 pitches in Denver last outing. Theory is, this is the reason/
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 16, 2007 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rain delay hurt him
 Lilly probably was a victim of the long rain delay, but also since he was hammered pretty hard in the early going, he probably was just out of gas, too.
 I thought using Howry was the key to the Cubs' loss. Dempster should have gone in then.
 Sometimes, a manager has to think outside the box, and he didn't on Wednesday night.

by Butchoh31 on Aug 16, 2007 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou should have left Lilly in on Wednesday
I think Lou took Lilly out when he did because of the matchup.  This, of course, backfired badly.  Adam Dunn was up and Lilly had walked Dunn twice earlier in the game.  So, Lou called for Wuertz the RHP to face Dunn a lefthanded hitter.  The rest is another disappointment in Cub history.  Based on pitch count only, Lou probably would have kept Lilly in another inning because he had the 6 days rest since that 127 pitch outing.

by AboutTheCubs on Aug 16, 2007 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Question
I'd be curious to find this out:

In games we hit a home-run how many of those do we win?

In games we don't hit a home-run how many of those do we win?

by ak123 on Aug 16, 2007 7:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good question.
Anyone have any idea where such stats can be located?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 16, 2007 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Courtesy of the teams stats page at
Baseball Reference, and if my count is correct, since I couldn't figure out how to sort these two stats alone, the Cubs are 38-23 when they homer and 23-36 when they do not.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Aug 16, 2007 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now...
... how does that compare to the league average? Just wondering, I know you don't have time to compute this (and neither do I).
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 16, 2007 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Al?
Were you also thinking like I was that The Cubs had won more games when they didn't homer?  I would have guessed those stats were reversed!  I'm not the dictionary of 2007 Cubs I thought I was lol.

by ak123 on Aug 16, 2007 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only Half
That's a pretty scary statistic in that it means the Cubs have only homered in just over half of their games.
Distracted. That's a funny word. I wonder if anyone ever gets tracted.

by CyberCyclist on Aug 17, 2007 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pleisac on just now
with Caplan on WGN.

He thinks that the Cards are "coming in at just the right time for the Cubs to show what kind of theam they really are."

So, we will all see!

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 16, 2007 7:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

almost but not quite a must win?
easy -- it's a 'knife' game.  When playing the market, the experts say that one of the worst things one can do is to try time the bottom of a market down-turn, or that of a particular stock, by betting that this or that moment is the one in which to buy, buy, buy.  The experts call this 'trying to catch a falling knife,' and it's better admired from a distance than actually attempted oneself.  

Well, who are we as fans -- as fans, in fact, of the Cubs who are so very often, though not often enough, playing 'knife' games in which for heaven's sake if someone on the team doesn't catch that damned knife it's over or it will damned well feel that it's over.  

Al, I agree with Chuck that last night's game was not, in the strict sense, a 'must-win' -- but I agree with you that it was a knife game.  

by greencubsman on Aug 16, 2007 7:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I like this one.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Aug 16, 2007 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone want to compile these into a list?
If you'll wait till morning and post a list of the suggestions, I'll pull about a dozen of them and post a poll.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 16, 2007 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

btw
Al, I'm the infrequently posting guy (but nearly daily reader) who met you briefly with his Dad in Atlanta recently.

by greencubsman on Aug 16, 2007 7:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, nice to have met you.
"Knife" game. Interesting.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 16, 2007 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

some ideas
How about 'wake-up game'. There are streaks where it looks like the Cubs are absolutely sleepwalking, and lately they've been comatose.

Or you could pay homage to Mark Grace and call it a 'slumpbuster'. It seems like some Cubs could go for one.

Finally there's the 'don't make me turn the game off by the 5th inning game' (DMMTTGOBT5thIG). For those occasions when the pitchers seem to cough up any leads immediately after the offense rallied from 4 runs down, or the offense is handcuffed by a no-name rookie making his 4th start.

I was saying Boo-urns.

by jrm78 on Aug 16, 2007 7:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How abour
Can't Afford to Lose Game
I can't believe I'm batting 9th again -Ted Lily

by NIUcubbie on Aug 16, 2007 8:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's more like it.
Just got done watching the game (thanks, Tivo!), and I was very pleasantly surprised. Offense looked very good, bullpen looked good, and I think we can (hopefully) carry this into the weekend. Let's beat those Birds, and get back into first!
Your results may vary.

by riggs on Aug 16, 2007 8:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Looou it's what you do to me.....
Watch this if you haven't seen it yet. It's a great Cubs-ized parody of the song Hey There Delilah by Plain White T's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KMuC-JUlEY

I have been singing it for days now!

fly your W flag Cubs fans!

by love the ivy on Aug 16, 2007 8:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

at was one of the most amazing things i have seen
I can't believe I'm batting 9th again -Ted Lily

by NIUcubbie on Aug 16, 2007 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OMG!
That was so good. They pretty much covered everything even Ronnie Woo Woo. Loved the picture of Ozzie with his mouth zipped shut.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 16, 2007 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

May fav parts
"Harry's looking down form the sky with Cubbie pride"

and

"they've got roids and runs and stars we can walk them all if there's no other way"

Glad everyone likes it. Scott Derenger sent it out through his myspace page, so really thank him! You don't see White Sox or Cards fans pouring their hearts into things like this. Another reason we are the best fans around :-)

fly your W flag Cubs fans!

by love the ivy on Aug 16, 2007 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is because White Sox and Cards fans
are to busy bashing us. After all thats the first priority to being Cards and White Sox fans, hating the Cubs.
We will see some beautiful things come the fall.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Aug 16, 2007 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bravo!!!
Tinker to Evers to Chance!

by sanantonecub on Aug 16, 2007 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Outstanding!
Class and pride coming through. Even Steve Goodman has to be smiling down on that work.
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 16, 2007 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

another approval for that video and song
gave me chills.  amazing!  well done
That said, I think the Cubs will still win this game and the Central

by joeschmitt on Aug 16, 2007 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looou it's what you do to me.....
This is gold!!!!.........End of story...
Hey Lou, we're long overdue.

by deadcatbounce on Aug 17, 2007 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about
"a swagger maker" Lou wants the Cubs to "swagger." The difference between the Cubs Stagger (when they are in a losing funk) and Cubs Swagger is a "W" as in a win. The phrase needs to incorporate "swagger" as opposed to an alternative like "stagger stopper."
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 16, 2007 8:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A Couple of Notes
Sorry Al I was in the bleachers today and didn't stop by.  Keppinger stopped at 2nd, because Livingston (I think) had stopped at 3rd and didn't score from second on that play.  Really bad baserunning.

I thought another key at bat was the Eyre strike him out, throw him out.  At that point they were still up one, with a bad bullpen meltdown last night.  Great job by Scott today.

by MerigoldBowling on Aug 16, 2007 9:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree
that strike him out, throw him out was a big deal.

Of course that's one of my favorite plays in baseball, so I'm a bit biased.

phat

by phatass on Aug 17, 2007 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Turning Point Game
is my suggestion. However, I do like knife game, it's kinda threatening.

by helen on Aug 16, 2007 9:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

"Swing Game" perhaps?
n/t
MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 16, 2007 9:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

this series
is a must-sweep series. sorry chuck.
That said, I think the Cubs will still win this game and the Central

by joeschmitt on Aug 16, 2007 9:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Personally,
Chuck is getting too much face-time here. Let's not let him turn the discussion, which is really -- kind of petty.

Must-win/Gotta win/havetowin

As the old guy in the jump-suit says:

"Just Win, Baby."  

(Which his team can no longer do........)

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 16, 2007 9:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not raining on the hit parade....
...and the Cubs offense has been excellent since the first 2-3 games without Soriano, but HRs are great to have as it makes it much easier to score runs in bunches and with fewer hits total.  I love the job that theriot is doing at leadoff, he's getting on base--great job!  When Soriano returns I'd love to see Theriot, Soriano, Lee, 1-2-3...Also, I am not crying for us to get more power, the Cubs have a lot of potential and even proven power on the roster but what can you do when lee hasn't gotten his power swing back for HRs but is raking 2Bs and getting on base like a madman--he's totally compensating for the lack of HRs.  Jones has had a down year but he has power...Floyd has power but well he's gotta be healthy, Murton does have some power and is the type of guy who could develop more in that area...I think the power is there but it hasn't come about...I'd rather stick with our roster and make call-ups then make a deal that will likely be a real dog for us as one must pay dearly for any productive power in this market at this time.  great win today, let's do it head-tohead v. the Birds!  Go, Cubs!

by DudeVf11 on Aug 16, 2007 9:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Explain to you why they need more hitters?
Are you serious Al?  Because they scored X number of runs over 3 games...their offense is fine?  Great.  We don't even need Soriano.  Great signing by Hendry to waste money when we have enough offense already.  Let's not play him when he comes back because we don't want to score too many runs.

In the 10 games since Soriano has been injured, the Cubs have scored 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 5, 6, 9, 10, and 12 runs.  That's right.  42 of the 52 runs have been scored in 5 games.  Based on those 5 games, one would think the offense is fine and dandy.  However, the other half of the games...10 runs.  Little to no chance at all to win half of the 10 games.  Interestingly, they lost 2 of the games they scored more than 3 runs (when they scored 5 and 9 runs).  

Sample size, Al!  People were ready to trade Zambrano for a turd early in the season and then people were ready to give him the Cy Young after 10 good starts and I'm sure people around here have been wanting him traded for a turd again.  Sample size!  

The Cubs offense ranks below average in OPS...well below average of any playoff contenders in the NL.  Their ERA, on the other hand, ranks well above average.  

What do the Cubs need?  Clearly...they need more pitching.  3 games of action is more important to consider and use when making decisions than 110+ games.  

I'm sorry, Al, if this sounds like I'm being an asshole, but open your eyes.  They've been at the top in pitching all season.   At the TOP!  They've been average to below average in hitting all season.  It's honestly not even difficult to figure out, Al.  

I'm not saying that improving the pitching would be stupid...any improvements are welcome, but it would indeed be stupid if they improved their pitching and ignored the hitting because of what I listed above...The Cubs are among the best in the league in preventing runs.  They're nowhere near the best in scoring them.  This is basic math.

by Maddog on Aug 16, 2007 10:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, You Said It
I'm being an asshole

By the way, how's that Cardinal 95 loss season coming for ya?

Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Aug 16, 2007 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are all over it....
can't say I agree more.

THIS TEAM REALLY STRUGGLES TO SCORE.  

And IMHO....if some of those fielders could actually FIELD.....the Cubs would have the bext pitching in baseball...

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Aug 16, 2007 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I completely agree, but...
you know Al was being sarcastic, don't you?

by Fraggin Judge on Aug 17, 2007 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

knife game is good...
..but it's a little esoteric.  I'd hate to have to explain that to my little cousin or girlfriend.  

How about calling it a momentum changer or simply a momentum game kind of like how certain innings are momentum changers?  Momentum innings are pretty easy to identify beforehand.  Usually they are when the team is down in a middle inning, your top of the lineup is up, and the opposing pitcher may have to be switched out soon because of pitches thrown, or his spot is due up in the next inning.  They're especially easy to identify if the opposing team has a strong setup / closer combo.  Does this analogy apply to games as well?

If they lost it, it would be that much harder to beat their next opponent who's the most formidable opponent in the division right now.   if they win it, then they go into the next series with a little more confidence.  

I'm not afraid of anything. to be honest with you, I kicked some dirt on a guy and that was it.

by bmeteor on Aug 16, 2007 10:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I only have 1 thing to say....
IT'S TIME TO POUND THE CARDINALS INTO THE DIRT
The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Aug 16, 2007 11:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Cubs could use help on offense
Simply put, the Cubs scored alot of runs against the Reds because they faced bad pitching except for Harrang.  Face good pitching and this team can't score enough runs.  The offense has been hot and cold all season long.  Without Soriano, Ramirez or Lee in top form the Cubs need help, especially when two of these fellas are out or not hitting.

by AboutTheCubs on Aug 16, 2007 11:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yup...
They didn't SCORE ENOUGH in 2 of the 3 games....
The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Aug 16, 2007 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Make or break" game
What about a "make or break" game? I believe that's what Al really means. A game that breaks or starts momentum, depending on the result. It could make your day or it might ruin it. Or it can do the same to a season.

I like the "knife" but it's too obscure a reference; needs to be explained too much.

by Fraggin Judge on Aug 17, 2007 12:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He does now!
That was one of the best moments I've ever expereinced listening or watching a baseball game.

Absolutely beautiful.

Whatever happens this season it's been a great ride so far. The lows have been pretty low (not as low as last season or other bad low points) but the highs have been very high.

phat

by phatass on Aug 17, 2007 12:17 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

FWIW
I too liked the fact that JJ got a nice hand from the fans when he came off today. His contract is a function of what the Cubs were willing to pay him and I think people forget that. For all his flaws (and he has flaws) as a player, from all accounts he's accepted his role over the course of the year without being a clubhouse negative. For a guy that's always been an everyday player that can't be easy. He's one of the few guys that have been hitting in August. I'm glad he's starting to hit the ball well....and in whatever capacity we need him, that's a plus.

by cubrandy on Aug 17, 2007 12:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Jones has gotten a bad rap
I realize people want these guys to play well all the time. But that's just not possible. Not everyone can be on their game all the time. Sure, getting down on a guy makes sense. But the sheer hostility and anger that some people vent at particular players at any given moment is unwarranted.

Nobody deserves what some of these guys have to put up with, even if they're not playing very well.

How many people here would like to have hundreds, if not thousands of people calling you horrible names and the like if you weren't doing well at your job? What if you're trying really hard and it's not working out? What if you were just flummoxed as to why it's not working out?

Getting really angry about a baseball player for any reason is pretty silly, unless maybe you're their manager and know that they can do better but aren't. The invective levelled at Jones has been almost criminal. I would include Cedeno and others in that category.

There are other people in this world who are worth this kind of hostility. Baseball players are way down the list.

phat

by phatass on Aug 17, 2007 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 17, 2007 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Granted
Most people don't realize how hard it is to stand up there and actually do what they do. Some of us wish we could have tried.

All that aside, I would give JJ a hug and tell him we are a friendly, but demanding bunch.

Except I couldn't feel good hugging a man named Jacque.

Glad to have him finally hitting the ball!

"Oh, I get a little tired now and then, but knowing my lifestyle, that's only natural." -- Harry Caray

by Cribbs463 on Aug 17, 2007 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amen.
I'm not much of a Strap fan, but he's been hitting well when we really need him to.  

The applause was very genuine.  It seemed hesitant, not uproariously loud, but warm and appreciative--  

"are we clapping for jones being taken out of the game?  guess so.  well, he deserves it these days. we're not gonna do this everyday, but it sure beats booing him.  good job, buddy.  go get 'em tomorra"

I'll be the first--  Jacque Strap Jones for World Series MVP 2007      

"I never take a game home with me. I leave it in some bar along the way." -Bob Lemon, from Sweet Lou

by section229beer on Aug 17, 2007 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and by the way
Murton and Kendall suck.

phat

by phatass on Aug 17, 2007 1:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If the Cubs
can get 20 hits every game, I agree they don't need HR's.  They won't get 20 hits every day though.  I still think that there needs to be a credible power source coming from the 5th spot.  

This is a good team, but its not great.  It might be good enough to win the Central and then who knows.  I'd be so much happier if another bat could be added  to solidify the lineup.  If the Cubs were in an other division in baseball, this lineup would not be good enough.  As it is, it may be, then hopefully luck could take over.  I'd rather not rely on luck so much though.

by NO100 on Aug 17, 2007 2:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed
though as well as Theriot has done in the leadoff spot, if Soriano can learn  to hit in the 5-hole, which he'll need to if he doesn't have his legs the rest of the way, he could be that 5-hole hitter the team needs.

and i don't see how getting 20 hits in one game nullifies all the games before this series where the team lost a ton of games because they couldn't score. that is microscoping one game to the millionth degree. (that's directed to Al, not you). By that same logic the Cubs shouldn't sign Z to an extension, because he gives up 6 runs a game.

by jazzypete on Aug 17, 2007 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DLee
Is Lou continuing to play him, and at the 3 spot, because he's been such a solid, well-liked player over the past few years?  Is he pandering to the Cubs fans that, year after year, have their favorites that nobody can IMAGINE getting demoted to a lower position in the batting order or 'GOD FORBID' gets a day off when it's a 'must-win game' (giggling about the silliness of this phrase and the subsequent arguing about said phrase).

We need you DLee - see a shrink!!

by iluvryno on Aug 17, 2007 5:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Special Giveaways for the Cards Series?
....a random thought.

I was in St Louis for the first game of the series in July (this would be the game where the scoreboard operators couldn't find their asses with both hands - Soriano struck out 2x in one AB and when Fonte pinch hit late in the game they put Felix Pie's picture on the big screen).  In the middle of the game, between innings, they played the Bartman play on the scoreboard.  The Cards fans went NUTS when Bartman touched the ball and Alou struck that whiny pose.

I was astounded....flabbergasted maybe when that took place.  I was torn between my own emotions that that play brought back and the sheer 'genius/balls' that it took to actually play that video clip.  Was truly speechless and that does not happen often.

So...in honor of this, can we welcome the Cards to town with a 'special' giveaway??  First 15,000 fans get a 'Tony LaRussa Mug Shot'?  How about first 10,000 kids get a 'Just Say No' stuffed (loaded..LOL) Cardinal'?

What do you think??

by iluvryno on Aug 17, 2007 6:06 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They've been pulling this stuff for years...
The scoreboard operators have always been doing this kind of stuff for Cubs/Cards games.  I lived there for 7 years and went to Busch (v. 2.0, not 3.0) as often as I could.  They would do stuff like a Cubs "under the helmet" game where there were only 2 helmets and all they did was switch position and ask "where's the ball Cubs fans?"  Anyhow, let's not sink to their level.  Ever.  That's my opinion.
It Is Our Turn.

by dorff24 on Aug 17, 2007 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is impossible to sink to their level
Their level is a bottomless pit.

St. Louis fans are so godd--mmed sanctimonious, but their team is full of drunks and potheads.

I guaran-damn-tee that if the Cubs had a mangager DUI, a player killed in a DUI and another player check into rehab all in the same season, the Cardinals would make that part of their marketing strategy the next year.

by lancaster99 on Aug 17, 2007 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Classy organization!
n/t
MMMMM...Hebrew National

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 17, 2007 8:09 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Terms for thought
Since a game like yesterdays is one you really WANT, but it's not the end of the world if you don't get, but you want it so bad you are JONESIN' for it, and getting the shakes, I call it a "Crack Game"

When I played ball in college, our coach would say that about big games. He would call games stuff like "an ICU game, because it is friggin' CRITICAL". Of course he always said stupid stuff like, "Cribbs, give me 20 more laps tonight"

Anyhow, before I get on a tangent...

  1. Crack Game
  2. ICU Game
  3. Dealbreaker
  4. Gutbuster
  5. Cup Check Game (or variant like "Cub Check Game")
Some of you -- well, all of you -- are much more creative, and that is the best I can do on a foggy-headed Friday morning with only one cup of coffee in me.
"Oh, I get a little tired now and then, but knowing my lifestyle, that's only natural." -- Harry Caray

by Cribbs463 on Aug 17, 2007 8:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How about...
labeling games that are a must-win for the fans morale? They needed a big offensive day for the series with the birds.
You are freaking out man!

by crw89 on Aug 17, 2007 8:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

great article
on Pignatiello.
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070816&content_id=2152736&vkey=news_chc&a mp;fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

Glad the kid had a good debut.  Let's hope there's more of that coming.  

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs" - Alvin Dark

by holycow07 on Aug 17, 2007 8:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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