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Open Thread: Cubs vs. Giants, Wednesday 8/22, 9:15 CT

Alyellontoppscard_tiny by Al Yellon on in Game Threads

SAN FRANCISCO -- Remember all the times everyone said Rich Hill's curveball, at times, resembled that of Barry Zito?

Well, tonight the two curveballing lefthanders will face each other for the first time.

See below the pitcher box for more on Zito and Hill, but I wanted to point out that last night's game was the third time that the Cubs have come from behind and won a game in the ninth inning (the others: May 6 vs. Washington and the Aramis Ramirez walkoff HR on June 29.)

Most teams don't win very many such games -- three of them, with a little less than a quarter of the season left, seems to me to be a significant number, showing the resilience of this team. Keep up the good work!

Spent the afternoon taking the ferry to Sausalito, having lunch, then returning for tonight's game.

 Today's Starting Pitchers
Rich Hill
 R. Hill
Cubs		 vs. Barry Zito
 B. Zito
Giants
7-7 W-L 9-11
3.93 ERA 4.88
135 SO 100
50 BB 68
24 HR 19
vs. SF -- vs. Cubs
Both of these pitchers have fared well against today's opponent. Hill beat the Giants at Wrigley Field on July 16 and then didn't win another game till last Friday. Zito beat the Cubs the next day, July 17, the only game SF won in that series, striking out eight and walking none. No one presently on the Cubs has hit him particularly well, although Derrek Lee and Cliff Floyd have both homered off him, as has Mark DeRosa (twice, but he has only two other hits in 23 career AB, although has also walked six times).

I neglected to mention yesterday our SB Nation friends over at McCovey Chronicles. Oddly, a lot of their threads don't seem to have to do with current Giants events. Can't imagine why.

Today's game is on WGN. If you don't have access to WGN, try the Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2006 version)

MLB.com Gameday for tonight's Brewers/Diamondbacks game

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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So very, very sad....
"The Cubs want to make sure Soriano returns at full strength and can do everything a leadoff hitter can do. He won't be brought back and inserted lower in the order." -- Carrie Musk-ox  mlb.com 8-21-07
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 22, 2007 6:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I forgot to add my comments...
regarding Musk-Ox's quote. Soriano CAN'T "do everything a leadoff hitter can do" when he's 100% healthy...work the count, make contact with 2 strikes, etc. So what makes "The Cubs" think he's going to be able to do it when he comes back?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 22, 2007 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

where is that written?
Where does it say that a leadoff hitter has to work the count or make contact with two strikes or any of that?  Cause I looked it up, and I can't find it anywhere.  

by Chad @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 22, 2007 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can you then..
enlighten me in the finer points of what a leadoff hitter is supposed to be able to do? Please quote your sources since we're going to go "by the book" here.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 22, 2007 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

It took me 5 seconds....
"The first player in the batting order is known as the leadoff hitter. Generally the leadoff batter is the fastest baserunner on the team; because he bats more often than anyone else in the lineup, and in order to have baserunners when the later hitters with more power come to bat, his need for a high on base percentage (OBP) exceeds that of the other lineup spots. It is also considered disadvantageous to have a faster player behind a slower if they are on consecutive bases, particularly first and second base. Once on base, his main goal is to advance around the bases as quickly as possible and then to score. Because leadoff hitters are selected primarily for their ability to reach base and for their speed, they are not typically power hitters. Another important role for the leadoff man is to reveal the pitcher's ability and to "wear him out" by forcing him to throw as many pitches as possible."

Pay attention to the last 2 sentences.

from here -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batting_order_(baseball)

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 22, 2007 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

AND...
"He should be a player who's not afraid to see a significant number of pitches, and to (be able) hit with two strikes on him," said Tracy. "Even if he makes out, when he comes back to the dugout he can pass on accumulated information about the pitches he's seen.

from this -->http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FCI/is_7_64/ai_n15378928

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 22, 2007 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

ouch
chad, that's gotta hurt.  it's gotta!
big leaguers all look down on us because of all that goat curse fuss maybe we should end that silly curse today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KMuC-JUlEY

by joeschmitt on Aug 22, 2007 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Al
What about the June 25th game against Colorado in which the Cubs came from behind in the bottom of the 9th to win 10-9? Perhaps one of the more defining games of the year IMO.

by giddyup on Aug 22, 2007 6:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Yabbut....
... in that game, the Cubs LED going into the 9th inning, blew the lead, then came back to win.

The stat I quoted was just for games where they were TRAILING after 8 innings.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 22, 2007 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

They still
came from behind to win in the 9th inning.

by giddyup on Aug 22, 2007 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, I know that.
Let me repeat this: the stat I quoted was ONLY for games in which the Cubs TRAILED after eight innings.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 22, 2007 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

It would
have been less confusing if that would have been stated originally. A comeback win in the 9th is a comeback win in the 9th. It doesn't matter when the lead was lost.

by giddyup on Aug 22, 2007 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry...
... you're right. I wasn't clearer in my original statement.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 22, 2007 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just to be a pest...
let me point out that trailing in any inning after the 8th ...means that you will be trailing after 8 innings. Give up a lead in the 15th...hmmm...yeah that's trailing after 8 innings.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 22, 2007 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um...
... not necessarily. Trailing after 8 is NOT the same as "trailing in any inning after the 8th".

Sheesh. I'm kind of sorry I mentioned this at all.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 22, 2007 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't this what the internet is for Al?
The back and forth of inane arguments that amuse only the participants? Oh wait...that's the Legislative Branch of our government, I always get the two confused!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 22, 2007 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

My my
I turned off the Orioles/Rangers game when it was 3-0 to get some work done.  It's now 21-3 Rangers.  The Rangers scored three touchdowns while I was gone.
The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh Timmers on Aug 22, 2007 6:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Apparently
they added a field goal because now it's 24-3.
I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant. - Robert McCloskey

by pageian on Aug 22, 2007 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the Rangers could give the Texans
a run for their money.

On a related note, a score like this is going to do nothing to quell rumors that the Rangers steal signs in that ballpark.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Aug 22, 2007 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder
how the Rangers are stealing signs in Camden Yards, then?

The Rangers are on the road, conspiracy theorist.

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh Timmers on Aug 22, 2007 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Apparently
the light in the scoreboard MArk Buerhle alleges is there projects to Baltimore. An amazing setup.

Way to get a joke on the Sox, man with no sense of humor.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Aug 22, 2007 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where was the joke?
You know, usually jokes contain, you know, something funny.

I guess the general concept of humor is something you're still searching for.

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh Timmers on Aug 22, 2007 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't say it was a good joke.
Damn, dude, you need to lighten up. I suggest beer.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Aug 22, 2007 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Moreover,
Buerhle's gotten shelled there a couple times in the past few years and he always goes to the stealing signs line, which to me is just ridiculous, especially since Texas is capable of blowing people out on the road, as well, as today showed. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, it was goofing on Buerhle's line. However, if you don't take in a lot of White Sox baseball, there was no way you would've gotten, but thanks so much for your criticism of my attempt at humor. It was totally germane and much needed.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Aug 22, 2007 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

final score
is 30 to 3.  The best part is that its the first game of a doubleheader!

by blueapple on Aug 22, 2007 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yikes!
I don't know if the Texans willmanage 30 points in a game all year long!

It'll be perfectly ironic if the Rangers get shutout in nightcap, but that Baltimore bullpen has to be totally cashed.

"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Aug 22, 2007 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ranger's Bats
You have to wonder if the batters are wore out at all.  We'll see.

by rynox on Aug 22, 2007 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

LMAO!
I just got a picture of the Ranger hitters walking to the plate with flaccid, floppy bats...too funny.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Aug 22, 2007 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

and...
....the Rangers reliever got a save in the game. LOL. They've gotta change that 3 scoreless inning rule.
"I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen." ~Bob Lemon, 1981

by carmenfanzone on Aug 22, 2007 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scoreless?
I thought it was just three innings and finish the game, regardless of lead, or how many runs you give up.

by ChipSet on Aug 22, 2007 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm at this Doubleheader
First game was just insane, although it was obvious Trembley was trying to save his pen for the second game.  It was very Dusty-like, with nary a peep from the dugout until a guy had given up, say, seven runs.

Sammy DHing in the second game. He's lost a lot of weight.

¡BLANCO!

by 08Cubs on Aug 22, 2007 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's hoping that Hill
look sharp tonight.  And to all those negative heads who frequent BCB: if Zito is throwing a shutout after 3-4 innings, keep up all those "the sky is falling" posts because they make it that much sweeter when the Cubs finally get going.
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 22, 2007 7:27 PM CDT reply actions  

They're just wasting Al's bandwith.
Or whatever that thing is called. Can you imagine if these guys were Orioles fans? They would be asking the team to forfeit the second game of tonight's doubleheader.

People, chill, please!

by Fraggin Judge on Aug 22, 2007 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

While the Cubs do not
really hit lefties well, perhaps Kendall can give them siome further insight into the guy. I know he was traded here the day Zito started against the Cubs and Zito still did well that day, so spare me the reprimand, rush-to-correct-everyone crowd. My thinking is, that with the extra time to prepare this time and the added luxury of having a guy on the team who actually caught Zito, perhaps the Cubs have a bit of an advantage and might be able to get to Zito, who hasn't exactly been impervious this year.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Aug 22, 2007 7:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Re: Players Sharing Scouting Data
I think that's a big no-no.  The Cub's have their own scouts.  It's their job.

by rynox on Aug 22, 2007 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

The day Kendall was traded,
he said he'd already shared a few thing with guys in the clubhouse about Zito.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Aug 22, 2007 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Players give scouting reports
All the time. It's part of the game. In fact, if Kendall refused to say anything about Zito, I would question whether the Cubs should keep him around.

You don't think Barrett isn't trying to impart his limited wisdom to Padre hitters?

I guarantee you that Maddux has shared every piece of information he knows with the Padres.

 

by lancaster99 on Aug 22, 2007 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kendall's first few hours
were spent getting to know his own staff, I'm sure. My guess is the Cubs will be better prepared to handle Zito tonight. And no matter how you scout a guy, a guy who caught Zito and called games for him will be a much better scout than a guy guessing as to what was going on from the stands. I am sure that Kendall and Zito talked strategy often. I don't think Zito talked strategy with Cub scouts.
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 22, 2007 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lineups
Cubs
Theriot, SS
DeRosa, 2B
Lee, 1B
Ramirez, 3B
Floyd, LF
Fox, RF
Kendall, C
Jones, CF
Hill, P

Giants
Davis, CF
Ortmeier, 1B
Winn, RF
Bonds, LF
Molina, C
Feliz, 3B
Aurilia, 2B
Vizquel, SS
Zito, P

by Bruce Miles on Aug 22, 2007 7:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Hmmm...
righty heavy versus LHP. Lou sticks with to his gameplan.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Aug 22, 2007 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lefties
I suppose, but we have still have two lefties in there who generally have not hit lefties well, although Jacque does have a decent line against them this season, albeit in a small sample.  I know we're dealing with some injuries but that still seems like a weak outfield to throw out there against Zito.  I know Floyd got the big hit yesterday (which was only a hit because of the drawn in infield) and that Murton has been struggling a bit, but I would still much rather see the redhead out there tonight. If he doesn't play against lefties when is he going to play?

by ms9av on Aug 22, 2007 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

re: Lineups
Wow, Fox gets the start in right. This should be interesting.

May the best lefty win (and that would be "Filthy" Rich Hill, of course).

Go Cubs!!!

You know you're not in high finance/Considering getting secondhand underpants

by daver on Aug 22, 2007 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Lou Piniella
You coach in the windy city
Our fair Cubbies play today and their is no North Side pity.......

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2KMuC-JUlEY

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 22, 2007 7:56 PM CDT reply actions  

but they got roids and runs and stars
we'll walk them all if theres no other way
I can't believe I'm batting 9th again -Ted Lily

by NIUcubbie on Aug 22, 2007 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Big leaguers all look down on us
Because of all that goat curse stuff....
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 22, 2007 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

the south siders have stop winning
can you hear the cubs fans cheering
I can't believe I'm batting 9th again -Ted Lily

by NIUcubbie on Aug 22, 2007 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Close your eyes...
Harry's looking down from the sky... with Cubby Pride [HOLY COW!]

Lou, it's what you do to me...

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 22, 2007 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

is that
scott eyre the guy that we cant mention his name and wayne messmer singing that? lol

by tbizzle83 on Aug 22, 2007 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

anyone
watching the padres/mets game wanna tell me why hoffman is thier 3rd basecoach

by tbizzle83 on Aug 22, 2007 8:15 PM CDT reply actions  

You mean Glenn Hoffman?
Trevor's brother?  Why shouldn't he be?
The call of the Cub fan, c. 1893: "one long, ravaged, derisive yell...a cyclonic whoop!"

by cubzfan on Aug 22, 2007 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol oh
but isnt hoffman number 47??

by tbizzle83 on Aug 22, 2007 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok
nevermind he is 51...my bad

by tbizzle83 on Aug 22, 2007 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man, the Rangers are real a-holes
"Ohmygodicantbelievewereonlyonehalfgameoutandhavethechancetotieforthedivisionleadwithawintonight!" - santoswoodenlegs

by NittanyCub on Aug 22, 2007 8:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Why do you say that?
It's not their fault the Orioles were pitching BP today...
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Aug 22, 2007 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder if this is the type of game
Like in football where the coach that just won 45-0 actually apologizes to the other team...
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 22, 2007 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe they'll send a few
hemrrhoid cushions over to the Baltimore locker room between games...
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Aug 22, 2007 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually ....
Rangers baserunners were noticably taking only one base at a time, with at least two passing up clear opportunities to score.  Ultimately didn't matter because of home runs, though.

Even more historically, Corey Patterson just took five straight pitches to draw a bases loaded walk in game two -

¡BLANCO!

by 08Cubs on Aug 22, 2007 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

why did SF even sign Zito?
he has been mediocre for the last few years (really his only really outstanding year was '02) plus the team isnt even close to contending. why pay over $100 mil for him?
Dinosaurs? "Didn't exist. You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them." -Carl Everett

by NDcubsfan on Aug 22, 2007 8:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Because they're the Giants.
"Ohmygodicantbelievewereonlyonehalfgameoutandhavethechancetotieforthedivisionleadwithawintonight!" - santoswoodenlegs

by NittanyCub on Aug 22, 2007 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh
i forgot. woulda thought thats something the orioles would do
Dinosaurs? "Didn't exist. You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them." -Carl Everett

by NDcubsfan on Aug 22, 2007 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

<koolaid>
Here's to the Cubbies making the Texas run scoring of today (33 and counting) look AVERAGE!!!

Yeah!! Go Cubbies!!

</koolaid>

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 22, 2007 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

F*ing Webb
Scoreless streak is dead in the first.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 22, 2007 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

My
favorite part of this is on the front page of ESPN right now is a ESPN Radio link (which I can't access right now, because I'm at work) that says "Morgan: Webb's streak rivals DiMaggio's."  

Um, hello, even if he hadn't just given up a run, Webb would have been SEVENTEEN innings shy of TYING Hershisers record.  Way to make an ass of yourself go there Joe...

Moose

Hubbs!

by moose97 on Aug 22, 2007 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey
according to ESPN, he's the best defensive 2B ever; no surprise they should put his inane rambling out there as gospel.
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Aug 22, 2007 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chris Young again
Man we better stay away from this guy.

by GoCubsGo! on Aug 22, 2007 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll bet
Kenny Williams wishes he had that guy back...
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Aug 22, 2007 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kenny Williams wishes he had that guy back
Hehehe...
Williams wishes he had back just about everyone he's ever traded away!    LOL
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kenny
Except Matt Karchner.
"When I was a boy they were my pride and joy, but now they only bring fatigue."

by Shawon Dunston Checks In on Aug 22, 2007 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

2-1 D'backs take the lead
Heres to Webb starting a new scoreless steak.

by GoCubsGo! on Aug 22, 2007 9:01 PM CDT reply actions  

GO CUBBIES
am relistening to pat and ron ninth inning from last night. Oh glory!
The Cubs lost the 1984 pennant on my 9th Birthday. Top That!

by brokenland on Aug 22, 2007 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

stadium is emptyy
is bonds not playing or something?
The Cubs lost the 1984 pennant on my 9th Birthday. Top That!

by brokenland on Aug 22, 2007 9:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Damn Cardinals
6-4 Edmonds HR, they take the lead back.

by GoCubsGo! on Aug 22, 2007 9:10 PM CDT reply actions  

SF quote of the day
"I can't believe that Lou doing a tirade would make this team win all these games."

True, it wasn't just Lou, but there is an emotional aspect to baseball, an intagible aspect, and if we do go on and...yada yada yada...we will all thank Sweeeeeeeeeeet Lou and his calculated temper tantrums.

The Cubs lost the 1984 pennant on my 9th Birthday. Top That!

by brokenland on Aug 22, 2007 9:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Records
So apparently today is the day of breaking records.

Any predictions on what record we can break today???

by ak123 on Aug 22, 2007 9:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, that half inning stunk
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 22, 2007 9:18 PM CDT reply actions  

We're doomed
this game is over. We can score. We can't hit.

phat

by phatass on Aug 22, 2007 9:19 PM CDT reply actions  

DB's ahead of the brewers 2-1 in the 3rd...
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 9:21 PM CDT reply actions  

well, there goes the no-no
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 22, 2007 9:24 PM CDT reply actions  

chick announcers don't belong in baseball
especially ones that go "coming up, barrrrrrrrrrrry bondssss!"

seriously, if you put emotion into it, IT MEANS NOTHING!!!.  let the moment speak for itself.

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 22, 2007 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

chick announcers don't belong in baseball
Hey, lighten up - that's prolly one of his favorite ho's...    :-)
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Everyone knows the best way to pitch to bonds
is with a guy on 2nd
I can't believe I'm batting 9th again -Ted Lily

by NIUcubbie on Aug 22, 2007 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

oh no
bottom one, runner on second, bonds up, i give up, cubs suck
The Cubs lost the 1984 pennant on my 9th Birthday. Top That!

by brokenland on Aug 22, 2007 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

You're not a Cubs fan!
You're a troll!  There's no venting in baseball, and especially not in an open public forum on the internet.  I hate you and everything you say.

:-)

Soriano's Contract: Approximately one dollar for every pitch in the dirt that he swings at.

by Ryno8 on Aug 22, 2007 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope
I made that sarcasm obvious enough.
Soriano's Contract: Approximately one dollar for every pitch in the dirt that he swings at.

by Ryno8 on Aug 22, 2007 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

you suck
and all your kind. the cubs will never win anything, and just being at this site proves you are just a LOSER
The Cubs lost the 1984 pennant on my 9th Birthday. Top That!

by brokenland on Aug 22, 2007 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cubs lost the 1984 pennant on my 9th Birthday
Yeah?....who gives a crap?
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

shut it
no really, i mean it this time
The Cubs lost the 1984 pennant on my 9th Birthday. Top That!

by brokenland on Aug 22, 2007 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow....
you actually mean something?

Perhaps in your own mind....maybe....

"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

man, barry is much less frightening than pujols
i'm for walking albert every time.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Aug 22, 2007 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm really tired of looking at Baroid Bonds
Smug faced, chip-on-his-shoulder, sulkiness...

...AND those stupid fans and their chickens!

"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 9:27 PM CDT reply actions  

One of those
unintentional intentionals?

by phatass on Aug 22, 2007 9:27 PM CDT reply actions  

bonds bores me
honestly, he does, no showmanship
The Cubs lost the 1984 pennant on my 9th Birthday. Top That!

by brokenland on Aug 22, 2007 9:27 PM CDT reply actions  

well, there goes the shutout
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 22, 2007 9:29 PM CDT reply actions  

can we please make zito work tonight
and not always hack at a pitch within the first 2 of the sequence
Bring back the damn cowbell!

by CubsBall2202 on Aug 22, 2007 9:30 PM CDT reply actions  

fully agree......
with a 2-0 count Aram picks THAT to swing at?

by cubrandy on Aug 22, 2007 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

howbout
another come from behind in the ninth
The Cubs lost the 1984 pennant on my 9th Birthday. Top That!

by brokenland on Aug 22, 2007 9:30 PM CDT reply actions  

I have a feeling tonight will mirror yesterday...
Both teams will go quietly for most of the game and the Cubs will have a chance late.

by Rogue 52 on Aug 22, 2007 9:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice to see Fox getting
a start.  Let's hope he does something.  The Cubs really need a solid right handed bat to play against left handers.

by cubsbak on Aug 22, 2007 9:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Not a great inning for Hill
but I like the way he shut down Feliz and got out with only one in. The curve looks good tonight......use it.

by cubrandy on Aug 22, 2007 9:32 PM CDT reply actions  

crap
2-0 pitch and Aram swings at a low pitch and pops out....

by LT on Aug 22, 2007 9:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Patience
Why can't this team learn some patience at the plate?

by GoCubsGo! on Aug 22, 2007 9:35 PM CDT reply actions  

how many
pitches has zito thrown to get through 2 . . . im guessing 10...

by CZ38 on Aug 22, 2007 9:36 PM CDT reply actions  

17 pitches for Zito.....
in 2 innings. C'mon fellas. Make him work (I'm looking at you Aramis and Jake).

by cubrandy on Aug 22, 2007 9:36 PM CDT reply actions  

What did I miss?
How did the Giants score?
"Chicago Cubs fans are ninety percent scar tissue."

by thehawk on Aug 22, 2007 9:37 PM CDT reply actions  

2 quick outs...
double, walk, single, K.
"A hot dog at the ball park is better than steak at the Ritz." -- Humphrey Bogart

by hokie316 on Aug 22, 2007 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

damn two out runs
"Chicago Cubs fans are ninety percent scar tissue."

by thehawk on Aug 22, 2007 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hope that doesn't come back to haunt us
"Chicago Cubs fans are ninety percent scar tissue."

by thehawk on Aug 22, 2007 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Zito looks like a 70's disco kid
with that new stash...
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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 9:42 PM CDT reply actions  

TEXAS/ORIOLES
30-3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MMMMM...Mannys corned beef and a latke

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 22, 2007 9:44 PM CDT reply actions  

and 6-4
in the night cap of the DH.
36 runs in 14 innings. WOW

by GoCubsGo! on Aug 22, 2007 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

You failed to list this item in your story...
"LaRussa still a Pickle-chugger."
"Hey Hey, Holy Mackerel, No Doubt About It!"

by scottsdalecubs on Aug 22, 2007 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't wanna seem negative, and I'm not....
...but it DOES get just a little bit frustrating to see our batters making it easy on Zito by swinging at the 1st pitch and everything after.

Zito is NOT dominating unless you let him be.

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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 9:49 PM CDT reply actions  

28 pitches through 3??
Yikes....a guy could pitch 12 innings at that rate.
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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

worked for us last night!
not that I'm advocating we try it every night :-), but it's not the kiss of death either...zito can throw 130 pitches anyways, so pitch count isn't always a huge deal for him.

by PrincetonCubs on Aug 22, 2007 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hill's curve is nasty.
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by Ryno8 on Aug 22, 2007 9:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Hill's curve is nasty.
Yep...L&B were right....
Tonight is a mirror of last night.

This game will come down to who flinches first...

Here's hoping it's Zito!

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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

j fox
did u see that . . . what the hell was that . . . what the hell was that jeez, take him out lou

by CZ38 on Aug 22, 2007 9:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Fox
has looked atrocious in RF tonight.  I understand that bounce off of the wall isn't his fault but that is the second time hes slipped, second time he has missed a ball trying to bare hand it... is he trying to do too much or is he just this bad in the field?
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by Ryno8 on Aug 22, 2007 9:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Jake Fox
Is not our RF of the future.

by bleedhawkeyegold on Aug 22, 2007 9:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice work Hill
another two out rally, way to go, get your fat ass out there Larry.  

by DC Cubbie on Aug 22, 2007 9:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Alright DeRo
nice cut.  Finally a batter that waits for a good pitch to hit and doesn't try to hit a 5 run HR... they only let you run around the bases once.

Meanwhile... here comes feast of famine DLee.

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by Ryno8 on Aug 22, 2007 10:06 PM CDT reply actions  

funny hearing all the Cubs fans there in SF

"Let's go Cu-bies"...    :-)
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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 10:06 PM CDT reply actions  

WTG Rami!
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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 10:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Woo Hoo!!
Way to stick it to that bum lefty ARAM!!

by Itchy on Aug 22, 2007 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

They just showed Alphonso working out and
taking batting practice before the game on MLB EI's Bay Area broadcast.  He look slimber, and was playing around - doing "jump-shots" to stretch, with no apparent pain.  Man, I can't wait until he's back.
"Hey Hey, Holy Mackerel, No Doubt About It!"

by scottsdalecubs on Aug 22, 2007 10:08 PM CDT reply actions  

looked "limber"
*
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by scottsdalecubs on Aug 22, 2007 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

CUBBIES!!!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 22, 2007 10:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Good Clutch AB
Aram!  That's what I'm talking about.  Timely hits!
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by Ryno8 on Aug 22, 2007 10:08 PM CDT reply actions  

RAMI!!!!!!!!!
MMMMM...Mannys corned beef and a latke

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 22, 2007 10:08 PM CDT reply actions  

ohbabyohbabyohbabyohbabyohbaby!
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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 10:09 PM CDT reply actions  

SWWWEEEEEEET!
Nice to see Aram take advantage of the hitter's count this time up.

by cubrandy on Aug 22, 2007 10:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes!
A-Ram taking advantage of a hitter's count. Get those Cubs fans yelling in SF!!
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 22, 2007 10:09 PM CDT reply actions  

woo aram
screw you zito
The Cubs lost the 1984 pennant on my 9th Birthday. Top That!

by brokenland on Aug 22, 2007 10:09 PM CDT reply actions  

FU%$ Yeah!!!
"Chicago Cubs fans are ninety percent scar tissue."

by thehawk on Aug 22, 2007 10:09 PM CDT reply actions  

why is Fox playing?
or on the team for that matter?

by DC Cubbie on Aug 22, 2007 10:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Given the way Brenley was
ragging on him, I don't think he will be with the big boys much longer.
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 22, 2007 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's one of those
"right-handed power bats."
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by Ryno8 on Aug 22, 2007 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm cheering for Fox
and his RH power bat. But not working himself into a good hitter's count against a good pitcher won't make his job easier. He ain't in Kansas any more.
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 22, 2007 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone notice now that Zito gave up those runs
his rhythm slowed way down?
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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 10:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Foxy needs to calm down
both at the plate and in the field.  He's too hyper, looks uncomfortable, and unrelaxed.  His performance seems to be suffering as a result this game.
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by Ryno8 on Aug 22, 2007 10:12 PM CDT reply actions  

I can't argue with that.
I don't see why Lou would sit Murton when he has a history of performing better the more that he plays.  I don't see the advantage of playing Fox today or having him up in the bigs at all.  It seems like its bad for every one involved.

I'm not a Fox hater, I just don't think it is his time.

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by Ryno8 on Aug 22, 2007 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd agree...
but I wonder how much of it may be that w/ Hank White as backup (just off the DL with a tricky physical issue)Lou likes the idea of a third "just in case" catcher on the club behind Kendall.

by cubrandy on Aug 22, 2007 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brenly just made a great point
...that Jake Fox's first AB was a complete waste (first pitch swinging), which meant w/Risp he had no idea what was coming second time up. Like we were all saying early.......patience!

by cubrandy on Aug 22, 2007 10:13 PM CDT reply actions  

nice 1-2-3 for Hill
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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 10:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Kendall
is the only player on this team with good patience.

by GoCubsGo! on Aug 22, 2007 10:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep......
the only guy close is TheRiot. I'd love to see Ryan and Kendall hit 1, 2 in the lineup for that reason.

by cubrandy on Aug 22, 2007 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't forget DeRosa.
Doesn't he have a pretty decent pitch/at bat ratio?

by daubs on Aug 22, 2007 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

good point....
and I think he's one of our best guys in the 2-hole. Wasn't his 5 for 5 day his first time in the 2 hole this year?

by cubrandy on Aug 22, 2007 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

take that Molina
you dare get an RBI double off me.

by DC Cubbie on Aug 22, 2007 10:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Uh oh...
Now he'll run slow!  

Oh, wait...

by daubs on Aug 22, 2007 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

ANOTHER 1-2-3 inning for Hill.....nice!
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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 10:31 PM CDT reply actions  

AZ scored....3-2 now...
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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 10:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Finally, the Winn-bag
goes down. That guy owns us!
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 22, 2007 10:32 PM CDT reply actions  

I have a feeling.
Yeah, me too....that chewed down fingertip feeling!   :-)
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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

what is the temperature there?
everyone is dressed like its october.
Dinosaurs? "Didn't exist. You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them." -Carl Everett

by NDcubsfan on Aug 22, 2007 10:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Gameday says 63
People in California don't know what cold is.

by GoCubsGo! on Aug 22, 2007 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same with Texas
60 and below gets people down here wearing the heavy gortex jackets.
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 22, 2007 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I live just north of ya
up in Lynnwood!
"Chicago Cubs fans are ninety percent scar tissue."

by thehawk on Aug 22, 2007 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I used to live in the East Bay
in Oakland where it was usually about 10-15 degrees warmer than SF. It was very rare even mid-summer in Oakland to not take a jacket with you if you're out for the night.

by cubrandy on Aug 22, 2007 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone ever wish
Barry Bonds would blow out his knee when his big steroid bloated body runs to make a catch??

That would be remarkably gratifying IMO.

MMMMM...Mannys corned beef and a latke

by Kinky Reggae on Aug 22, 2007 10:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Or if he just exploded.
Out of nowhere.  Just.... exploded.
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by Ryno8 on Aug 22, 2007 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

MAN!...yet ANOTHER 1-2-3 inning for Hill...
both pitchers seem dialed in....

Come on, CUBS!

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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 10:43 PM CDT reply actions  

And after all those nasty curves
Hill p[ut Feliz away w/ 94mph heat. very nicely done.

by cubrandy on Aug 22, 2007 10:44 PM CDT reply actions  

its pouring rain again in Chi-town
its like living in the Amazon lately....
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 22, 2007 10:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Honestly
I keep getting the severe thunderstorm warning messages on the bottom of the screen.  It has been like this since freaking Saturday!
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by Ryno8 on Aug 22, 2007 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think we have had
a total of 3" of rain in LA in the last 18 months. Maybe you could send some of that out here. But we have had a minor earthquake or two. :-)
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 22, 2007 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

We just saw that
here in Nebraska.

It's been raining all evening. You get to see some more soon.

phat

by phatass on Aug 22, 2007 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn it Len K
makes me feel old. It's obvious he has never been in Candlestick (Monster) Park.

He asks Len: What's Radiant Heating?"

Well, that was a 'heating system' that apparently involved heating coils embedded in the cement stands of Candelstick Park. Therefore, the concrete -- would feel warm. Keeping your feet warm, would keep ALL of you warm.

I have no idea if this system ever worked, (probably not, but I remember reading about it) but how could it possibly help when the wind was blowing in at about 20mph and the temperature at Candelstick Point was about 55. Your beer would get colder there, in the summer. Wind Chills were the norm there.

However, when I was there for the 1989 NLCS, it was beautiful....Sunny, warm, not a cloud to be found.

Except for the one that hung over the Cubs.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 22, 2007 10:51 PM CDT reply actions  

The Jake Fox experiment
has concluded tonight. De-Ro in RF.
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 22, 2007 10:53 PM CDT reply actions  

I noticed that.
As the season goes on Lou's patience for stupid play is wearing thin.  Jake Fox should really be a little bit more patient.

BTW, Hall is on 2nd base with one out in the 9th inning.

by zevkalman on Aug 22, 2007 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

why cant they score runs for rich?
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 22, 2007 10:57 PM CDT reply actions  

I dont know.
And it is not just you.  BB and Kasper keep bringing up some stat about how Rich Hill has like the lowest run support in the history of the universe including high school girls softball.

I really feel bad for him given his team leading ERA and such a mediocre record.

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by Ryno8 on Aug 22, 2007 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cool...AZ won.
Now come onnnn, CUBS!
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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 10:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Clap your hands for R. Hill
Two great outings by Marquis and Hill.  The bullpen is really getting some rest lately.

by VillanuevaExperience on Aug 22, 2007 11:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Murton's gonna bat...
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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 11:00 PM CDT reply actions  

good piece of hitting...
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 22, 2007 11:01 PM CDT reply actions  

The more I see Kendall
the more I love his approach at the plate.

by cubrandy on Aug 22, 2007 11:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Kendall is solid...
Each of his at bats was outstanding.
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 22, 2007 11:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Kendall!
Yes...now let's get Hill a win.

by zevkalman on Aug 22, 2007 11:01 PM CDT reply actions  

That worked!
Let's never have him do that again.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 22, 2007 11:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Let's go Matt!
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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 11:02 PM CDT reply actions  

First pitch out
I call it.
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by Ryno8 on Aug 22, 2007 11:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Not.
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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice bunt
LETS GO CUBBIES
The Cubs lost the 1984 pennant on my 9th Birthday. Top That!

by brokenland on Aug 22, 2007 11:02 PM CDT reply actions  

I think we need to investigate inking Kendall
to a 1-2 year deal this off season.  I don't think our AAA option will ready.

by Rogue 52 on Aug 22, 2007 11:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Thank God
Marmol is warming up (instead of some one else).
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by Ryno8 on Aug 22, 2007 11:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Of course, its Marmol.
If this game goes extras since the pitcher's spot just batted, Marmol can give you 2 innings.

Doh, Theriot.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 22, 2007 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Funny how this blog was FULL of Kendall haters
when he first came over....
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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 11:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep......
and he struggled the first few games, but I think the guy wanted to contribute so damn bad he was pressing. Well, he has definitely been contributing big-time.

by cubrandy on Aug 22, 2007 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

gotta do it here...
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 22, 2007 11:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Another 9th inning win I guess...
At least this time no come from behind.

by Rogue 52 on Aug 22, 2007 11:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Call Cedeno back up.
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by Ryno8 on Aug 22, 2007 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Filthy stuff
from Marmol. Ortmeier didn't have a chance.

by cubrandy on Aug 22, 2007 11:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Marmol is looking very very filthy.
Bonds will have no chance if this continues.

by Rogue 52 on Aug 22, 2007 11:10 PM CDT reply actions  

I say...walk Bonds....
Just to piss him off...   :-)
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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 11:11 PM CDT reply actions  

:-) I guess Lou heard me
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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like the call
of putting Bonds on. He can't score on a double, and Molina won't touch Marmol.

by cubrandy on Aug 22, 2007 11:12 PM CDT reply actions  

OK...Roberts could score on a double
but if we go extras, Bonds is out of the game. OK by me.

by cubrandy on Aug 22, 2007 11:13 PM CDT reply actions  

That was easy.
Lou turned to Kendall, "should we walk him or plunk him?" That was the perfect strategy to clear the stands of Giants fans. They will all leave now.
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 22, 2007 11:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Not even Barry Bonds would have been able to
catch up to Marmol tonight.  Let's hope this doesn't shake his confidence.

by Rogue 52 on Aug 22, 2007 11:13 PM CDT reply actions  

All that SF hub-bub for nothing....
They left Roberts on second and the air outta the sail.
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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 11:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Mr Nasty
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 22, 2007 11:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Someone needs to teach Fontenot how to tag...
He looks like he is petting a cat everytime there is a close play.

by Rogue 52 on Aug 22, 2007 11:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Struck out the side!
Filthy, filthy stuff. You gotta love that kid.

by cubrandy on Aug 22, 2007 11:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Marmol strikes out the side
What a dude he is.  

BTW, I sure hope that we don't see Jake Fox starting again in a game until next Spring in Mesa.  Lou may have lost his patience with him tonight.

by zevkalman on Aug 22, 2007 11:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Too funny! Len said he met Timothy Leary....
...wonder why he brought THAT up???

Big A, anyone?    :-)

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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 11:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Here's a Novel Idea
Someone hit a homerun.  Someone that's a Cub that is.

by garyscottrules on Aug 22, 2007 11:21 PM CDT reply actions  

I just hope this game doesn't go on forever
tonight
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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 11:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep. Nothing he can do with that.
They went away with heat and then WHAM inside slider.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 22, 2007 11:23 PM CDT reply actions  

9th
Dempsters coming on. Hmmm, I predict a Giants win.

by ms9av on Aug 22, 2007 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

wrong.
Thanks for playing though.
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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

i have a feeling
howry will come in and lose this game for us

by CZ38 on Aug 22, 2007 11:26 PM CDT reply actions  

i have a feeling
You always do....

and then we the Cubs win you're one of the first to say "yay Cubs"...

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by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

this bum umpire
at first has yet to call a check swing a strike all night.
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 22, 2007 11:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Bottom of the 9th Leadoff Walks in Tie Games...
Usually Score.

Of course it is the Giants.

by Rogue 52 on Aug 22, 2007 11:28 PM CDT reply actions  

People say that.
Does anybody have the numbers?

I'm not saying it's wrong. It makes sense.

Any numbers out there?

by phatass on Aug 22, 2007 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, but you assume that you can get down a bunt.
Then you have two opportunities to try for a single.

by Rogue 52 on Aug 22, 2007 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

remember when Bochy
was in the running for Cubs manager ?

by coral on Aug 22, 2007 11:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Marmol is one of the best pitchers I know
at coming from behind in the count.

by Rogue 52 on Aug 22, 2007 11:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Seeing how Lou's patience is ebbing away....
as the season is progressing, I'm not sure Fontenot is on his top ten list of all-favorite players.

by zevkalman on Aug 22, 2007 11:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Marmol saves Fonty's butt
and that of his team.  Great 2-innings work!

by zevkalman on Aug 22, 2007 11:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Strike Two and Three sliders......
just about unhittable. Let's get Marmolade some runs.

by cubrandy on Aug 22, 2007 11:37 PM CDT reply actions  

anyone have DISH Network?
the satellite that has WGN went down right after that base hit by the Cubs in the 5th and of course, their phone system is flooded. It's still down. GRRR
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Aug 22, 2007 11:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Put Marmol on a flight
to Phoenix. No way he is pitching tomorrow. He did his job in this series. Now let's get this thing done in the 10th...Go Cubs!!
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 22, 2007 11:38 PM CDT reply actions  

I predict
if someone can get on, Kendall comes up with an RBI.

by cubrandy on Aug 22, 2007 11:38 PM CDT reply actions  

i cant stay awake any longer
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Aug 22, 2007 11:39 PM CDT reply actions  

CLIFFY!!!!
Comes through again!

by JakeH on Aug 22, 2007 11:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Get Felix in.
2007 Badger Football - 1-0 every week...

by Schwa on Aug 22, 2007 11:39 PM CDT reply actions  

come on Floyd, CRUSH that ball!
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Aug 22, 2007 11:40 PM CDT reply actions  

LET'S DO IT NOW
2007 Badger Football - 1-0 every week...

by Schwa on Aug 22, 2007 11:42 PM CDT reply actions  

That was the Cubs first walk of the night
Now the bases are clogged!

by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 22, 2007 11:43 PM CDT reply actions  

The "Gints" sure remind me
of the 2006 Cubs. With the way they hand scoring chances to the other side. We've got to do it!!! Go Kendall!!
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 22, 2007 11:44 PM CDT reply actions  

WGN
WTF??

Is anyone elses WGN out??!?!

by Yepsen on Aug 22, 2007 11:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Nope
1st and 3rd no out Kendal is batting 2-1 count.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 22, 2007 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

My HD channel went out
but the regular station is still on.

by Big Red on Aug 22, 2007 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jazz Man....where you been?
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 11:45 PM CDT reply actions  

ohbabyohbabyohbabyohbabyohbaby!!!
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 11:46 PM CDT reply actions  

E-4
Pie scores 1st and 3rd no outs!

Come on JJ!

by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 22, 2007 11:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Giants fans have to hate...
...everything about this. The late-inning mistakes, the "Let's Go Cubbies" chants drowning them out... wow.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 22, 2007 11:47 PM CDT reply actions  

The best part of that play was...
the heads up running by Fonenot.  Way to keep going to 3rd.

by blueapple on Aug 22, 2007 11:47 PM CDT reply actions  

yes!
Nice!

Jason Kendall in the clutch again!

phat

by phatass on Aug 22, 2007 11:47 PM CDT reply actions  

If we win
TIVO Baseball Tonight- ESPN HAS to put us over.

by ak123 on Aug 22, 2007 11:47 PM CDT reply actions  

lets blow it open!
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 22, 2007 11:47 PM CDT reply actions  

YOU WILL FEAR...
...HANK WHITE'S BAT!
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 22, 2007 11:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Every now and then
Bluelou, I try to have a life outside of this team... :) (Not very often these days) I picked up the game as it became tied.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 22, 2007 11:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Good to see ya dude....
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blanco! Long time no see...
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 11:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Henry Blanco!
Yes! He almost was done for good!

Get a hit!

by phatass on Aug 22, 2007 11:49 PM CDT reply actions  

he sure looks like he has 300 ABs up there....
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 22, 2007 11:51 PM CDT reply actions  

If he keeps throwing over
maybe Henry will hurt is back again.

by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 22, 2007 11:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes, because clearly...
...with the backup catcher batting, you need to keep the main catcher held up at first. Gotta respect all that speed up there.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 22, 2007 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Len k
the Cubs are the only team in MLB to have the 'threaded' logo on their helmets.

Win a bet with this info.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 22, 2007 11:52 PM CDT reply actions  

fly ball- please
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 22, 2007 11:52 PM CDT reply actions  

4-2!!!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 22, 2007 11:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Welcome back BLANCO!!!
Nice RBI!!
"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 22, 2007 11:52 PM CDT reply actions  

HOLLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That never works!

by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 22, 2007 11:52 PM CDT reply actions  

it did
against the white sux

by CZ38 on Aug 22, 2007 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

They are a real baseball team
so it doesn't count.

by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 22, 2007 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know...
...if I'd say the Giants are that much better than the Sox, if they're better at all.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 22, 2007 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Beautiful.
Just absolutely beautiful.
2007 Badger Football - 1-0 every week...

by Schwa on Aug 22, 2007 11:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Lou
is GENIUS!  SS to perfection!

by JakeH on Aug 22, 2007 11:52 PM CDT reply actions  

wow.....the return of hank !!!!
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 22, 2007 11:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Squeze!
Great call and execution!

by Itchy on Aug 22, 2007 11:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Piniella > Brochy
Pitch out - Bad.

Squeeze play - Good!!

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 22, 2007 11:53 PM CDT reply actions  

LOL

by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 22, 2007 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Beautiful work by Mr. White!
That was awesome!
"2007. Our year. Our beer." - G. Heileman Brewing Co., Milwaukee, WI.

by ilovepie on Aug 22, 2007 11:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Did anyone hear Theriot on Jim Rome
Today?

Now Theriot needs to cash in his jungle Karma!

by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 22, 2007 11:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Good for Blanco!
Seriously. This guys career was almost over!

phat

by phatass on Aug 22, 2007 11:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Not quiet
he is signed next year for 3 mill.

by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 22, 2007 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

His injury
almost finished him, from accounts.

by phatass on Aug 23, 2007 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Crazy
Theriot has a quiet bat and Henry Blanco gets an insurance run?

Wow.

by phatass on Aug 22, 2007 11:56 PM CDT reply actions  

"It did against the white sox"
Brings up another point of mine continuing the good/bad series from above...

North Side Baseball - First Place

South Side Baseball - Last Place

Any questions?

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 22, 2007 11:56 PM CDT reply actions  

That was beautiful!
Great job by Hank, and he looked like a deer in headlights on the grounder but give him credit. Fontenot drew the walk, and did his job in the squeeze perfectly. Didn't leave too soon, but got a great jump.

by cubrandy on Aug 22, 2007 11:56 PM CDT reply actions  

I like Bruce Bochy a lot
But he has crap to deal with in SF. He pulled rabbits out of a hat in SD. It took me a while to really like the guy's work -- he's quiet. In fact, he was the only thing about the Padres I enjoyed.

But the cheap bastards wouldn't give him any cash -- why spend 10+ years and  still be the lowest paid manager in baseball?

I'd take the headaches to finace my future.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 22, 2007 11:56 PM CDT reply actions  

agree...he knew
he would have to deal with all the Bonds BS and a team full of players his own age this year.

Sabean will rebuild around three really good pitchers next year.

Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 23, 2007 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the Giants will
rebound in 2 years -- those kid pitchers have plenty of potential, and if they figure out what to do with Bonds thankfully, for them -- that mess will be gone. Even though Lewis struck out 4 times tonight, he's going to be a good one.

The have to improve the pen, and get rid of most of the seniors.

When I was in Scottsdale this Spring, and met up with Al -- and took a look at this team -- I remember telling him -- the Giants are a last place team -- even with Barry Zito. (Al--Remember?)

I expressed that opinion to others out here on the coast, they thought I was nuts. The Diamondbacks seemed to be the easy pick for a last place team in the West. Ha!

And, in any case I'd rather see the Giants do well than the Padres or Dodgers. That goes back to 1989, as Giants fans were so nice to Cubs fans in that NLCS. I remembered that -- the polar opposite of the Padres fans in '84.

We lost, but I had Giants fans coming up to me and chatting, and overall -- it was a fun experience at the Stick.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 23, 2007 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lou made Bochy look like an amateur.
Pitch out on 2-1? Bochy called for that squeeze play. Everytime I see a Giants game the manager is screwing the game up for them. I believe San Diego did the right thing by letting this loser go.

by Fraggin Judge on Aug 23, 2007 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well....
This "loser" squeezed 3 Division Championships and a World Series appearance during his 10+ years in San Diego -- and half that time, he had miserable material to work with. He really had 5 good teams during that time -- the rest were abhorrent to average.

The guy never complained when he had crap to manage. Yeah, I'd be a winner with some guy named Arci Cianfroccio starting at third one season...and Kevin Jarvis as my #1 starter.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 23, 2007 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Only 3 division titles in a weak division?
That's why he's not there anymore. He underachieved.

by Fraggin Judge on Aug 23, 2007 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes,
You're probably right.

He's a pretty good catcher though.

I don't think he's done for good.

phat

by phatass on Aug 22, 2007 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

who's up for a 1,2,3 10th?
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 22, 2007 11:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Good Dempster!
Keep it up Redhead!

by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 22, 2007 11:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Beautiful.....
Dempster doesn't walk the leadoff man, and we don't have to see Bonds!

by cubrandy on Aug 22, 2007 11:58 PM CDT reply actions  

That was the point
He was making.

In a comment down thread it's pointed out how important it was walking him earlier.

phat

by phatass on Aug 23, 2007 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

5 pitches
5 strikes.  Come on Dempster, finish em' off!

by JakeH on Aug 22, 2007 11:59 PM CDT reply actions  

In case anyone's keeping score....
"i have a feeling
howry will come in and lose this game for us

by CZ38 on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 at 9:26 PM CT

Guess you and your negative BS were wrong again CZ....

Maybe give it a rest once in awhile, eh?

"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Aug 23, 2007 12:00 AM CDT reply actions  

And how extacly is your comment
not negative, eh?

by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 23, 2007 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

ehhh
he didnt pitch tonight. lol i wasnt trying to be negative, i was just worried thats it, but u can be a smart ass all u want ehhh

by CZ38 on Aug 23, 2007 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fly it, Chicago! You're alone in FIRST PLACE!!!

Hey Hey!  Holy Mackeral!  Sweet Lou!

The Cubs have won the game today!!!

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Aug 23, 2007 12:00 AM CDT reply actions  

FLY IT!!!
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 23, 2007 12:00 AM CDT reply actions  

CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN!
Sole possesion of first place is ours again, baby.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 23, 2007 12:00 AM CDT reply actions  

And now?
Sleep.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 23, 2007 12:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Big win
Cubs are now 2-7 in extras!

More importantly.  We are up 1 game.

Look hot California girls flying the Cubs Win Flag!

by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 23, 2007 12:01 AM CDT reply actions  

That darn AL
I see 3 losses in So Cal -- he may see a sweep tomorrow....

I sure hope he does...

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 23, 2007 12:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Cubs alone in first place!
Great win. Nice to see the Cubs get back to basics and winning!
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." - Joe Morgan, Sunday Night Baseball 8-12-07

by gary varsho on Aug 23, 2007 12:02 AM CDT reply actions  

NICE WORK!
I like seeing this team executing and performing against an inferior ballclub. These are games we would have found a way to lose in April and May.

One game up - let's get out the brooms tomorrow!!!

:)

"2007. Our year. Our beer." - G. Heileman Brewing Co., Milwaukee, WI.

by ilovepie on Aug 23, 2007 12:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Rich Hill pitched great tonight
and he should have gotten a win tonight.

by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 23, 2007 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

awesome!
I have learned some very important things from this years Cubs-
  1. an extra innings or one run game can indeed be won by the Cubs
  2. One bad outing by a pitcher does not mean they will have a major collapse
  3. It takes more than one or two stars to make a team click and win games, no matter how big or small the contribution might be, all these players have heart.
I have never ever wrote off the Cubs or threatened not to watch games, etc. But I have been down the dark path of pessimism and cynicism. I still couldn't admit to myself that this team has real guts and a huger to win even at the All Star break, but now... (wipes proud tear from cheek) They are doing great things!

Cubs win! Cubs win!

fly your W flag Cubs fans!

by love the ivy on Aug 23, 2007 12:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Lou
Perfect managing tonight.
Managed to get 7 from Hill.
Intentional walk to Bonds with nobody on-- required Bochy to pinch run and get Bonds out of the game.
Allowed Marmol to start the 9th after a good 8th.
Let Marmol work himself out of the jam and finish the 9th.
Suicide squeeze for insurance.

Wow. Great win.

"These are terrible times, and I shouldn't joke about them." --Warren Zevon

by ExNorthsider on Aug 23, 2007 12:03 AM CDT reply actions  

We also got three big breaks
  1. Klesko missed a meat ball in the bottom of the ninth with the winning run on Second
  2. Pass Ball in the 10th
  3. The Error by the Second baseman which if it was handled would have been a 4-6-3 DP and Pie was not running on contact so he would have still been on Third.
But good team take advantage of big breaks and that's what the Cubs did tonight.

It was a great game!

by Mac @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Aug 23, 2007 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

True!
And "great managing" is a comment almost exclusively  used by the fans of the team that wins the game (i.e., yours truly).
"These are terrible times, and I shouldn't joke about them." --Warren Zevon

by ExNorthsider on Aug 23, 2007 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are they breaks
or, is that a bad team -- as I said earlier -- not executing in a close situation?

I think it's the latter. However, good teams take what's given to them. I hope the Cubs are moving into that class of team. We have seen glimpses of that.

And, when you are playing an inferior team -- you have to put your foot on their throat when that happens.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 23, 2007 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I do think it's the latter....
the Giants didn't execute and we took advantage. That's what a good team does. Are we a "good team"? I think we're the best in our division, and becoming a "good team". Earlier in the broadcast Len mentioned that the Giants were 30-45 in games won by 2 runs or less. That is a bad team not executing.

by cubrandy on Aug 23, 2007 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sweet!
A win against a tough LH pitcher. First extra inning win on the road! Two big steps forward.
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 23, 2007 12:03 AM CDT reply actions  

A sweet win.
Great job Hill. Pure filthy shut 'em down stuff from Marmol. Great execution in the end. Jazz Man is right. Last place teams find ways to lose.....and winners take advantage. Their second baseman ended up being worse than ours and Cubs win.

by cubrandy on Aug 23, 2007 12:03 AM CDT reply actions  

Another good win
You have to love these late inning rallies to win games.  Everyone's contributing, last night it was the top of the order and tonight the bottom.  I can't think of a better way to celebrate than with a new song from Bruce Springsteen.
http://virtual12.nebula.fi/~evolution-script/ev2_radionowhere/RadioNowhere.mp3
Once they tried to steal my heart, beat it right outta my head But baby they didn't know that I was born dead I am the iceman, fighting for the right to live

by sandbergformanager on Aug 23, 2007 12:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Ugh
What happened to Bruce?

Boo.

"These are terrible times, and I shouldn't joke about them." --Warren Zevon

by ExNorthsider on Aug 23, 2007 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

beautiful win.
get them tomorrow z.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Aug 23, 2007 1:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Another come from
behind win for the Cubs. Great game guys.

Hill pitched a good game, Marmol was "Nasty" as could be and Demspter got his 20th save. Please keep up the good work!

I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 23, 2007 11:34 AM CDT reply actions  

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