The Ace Is Wild
It wasn't just Carlos Zambrano being wild last night -- although that was a big part of the problem, not walks but the two times he hit Rickie Weeks, because he scored on one of them, and also got a hit and scored on that one, too.
The critical error made by Ryan Theriot, dropping a Mark DeRosa throw in the Brewers' four-run seventh inning, was the play on which the Cubs' 6-1 loss to the Brewers turned, and here I'm going to blame a guy I've praised so often -- DeRosa.
What was he thinking, making that throw? Here's the game situation: one out, runner on first, Z reaching about the end of the line. In my opinion, DeRosa had ZERO chance to throw Weeks out at second base; he should have taken the easy out at first. This would have left Weeks on second with two out, the score still 2-1, and Prince Fielder due up.
Obviously, then Fielder would have been intentionally walked, and Carlos Marmol, who was up three or four different times without getting into the game, would have come on to face Ryan Braun. Instead, Fielder singled, loading the bases, and then Braun smacked a double over Aramis Ramirez' head, scoring two runs and chasing Z in favor of Scott Eyre, who's been good lately. Not last night, though; Eyre gave up two straight hits, putting the game out of reach, but when he ended the inning with a double play ball from Johnny Estrada, Eyre's ERA actually went down to 5.14. Kerry Wood and Michael Wuertz at least didn't give up any more runs, and despite having runners in scoring position in the 8th and 9th off Derrick Turnbow and Francisco Cordero (odd to see Cordero in a non-save situation, but the Brewers have been so bad lately that Cordero hadn't thrown at all in eight days).
And that was that. Here are some numbers you wouldn't expect -- the club's record with each of the five current starting pitchers:
(The six other games were started by Angel Guzman, 1-2, and Wade Miller, 0-3.)
And that's our $90 million ace? I love Z, love his passion for the game, love his fastball, even love watching him swing the bat so hard it could have almost pushed back the wind blowing in pretty hard from center field last night. But he's got to start winning. Bruce Miles wonders, too:
Last night was coolish, with the wind blowing in, so no one was going to hit the ball out of the park (Weeks nearly did leading off the game, pushing Cliff Floyd back to the ivy to catch his fly ball, and Floyd briefly had to be checked out by the training staff), and though it was announced as another sellout of 40,512 (raising the season average to 40,079), there were blocks of empty seats in the upper deck. Some of those in attendance in the bleachers brought rather lame-worded signs trying to play off the name "Sheets" -- they were, in fact, so lame I can't even remember them to replicate them here.
I wanted to say something here about some of the name-calling that I've found (and had some emails about) in the game threads. Look. No one is saying that every single comment has to be optimistic, or ignore bad play. But as has been noted in this diary, it is impossible for even the best baseball team of every season to go 162-0. Sometimes teams are going to lose and look really bad doing it -- and the next day they could come out and look like champions. Unload your angst if you must but I will insist on this -- no insulting or name-calling of other posters here!!! If you want your opinions respected, the least you can do is respect the thoughts of others.
Thanks. Now, a couple of final thoughts of my own. Take a look at the current records of the ten (yes, TEN) teams that are still, on August 30, within 5.5 games of a playoff spot (listed in percentage order):
Not only are all those teams still within striking distance of either a division lead or the wild card lead, but from top to bottom those ten are only separated by 7.5 games. That, this late in the season, is unprecedented. It ought to make for a wild finish. In the meantime, despite yesterday's loss, the Cubs still remain 1.5 games in first place, and in case you don't have an idea of how to handle that, I'll give the final word to Mike:
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lou
btw, isn't marmol #1 in mlb as far as inherited runners is concerned?
I agree with the comment on Lou.
I also threw up a little in my mouth when Eyre came in to face what appeared to be the one lefty, let the runner score, then was left in.
I had the pleasure of sitting in front of a couple of very large, very loud, mammals in brewer gear. They must live by the motto of drink more/think less. I saw a lot of well behaved brewer fans, wish I could have sat near them.
Yep..
By the way..Piniella needs to have that baby..
For anyone who has visited Al, this cartoon
I bet Lou in hindsight would have taken out Z. We can all see that Marmol should have came in now.
I stated in another diary Aram is pushing a little. Rest him or get him going, we need that RBI bat.
We're seeing quite a few lefties soon, let's get that taken care of starting today.
Crap!
The Cubs are expected to recall LHP Will Ohman when rosters expand on Sept. 1.
Ohman complained about a "barking" shoulder when he was demoted earlier this month, but he has pitched well at Triple-A. Catcher Geovany Soto, RHP Sean Gallagher IF Ronny Cedeno, IF Eric Patterson, LHP Carmen Pignatiello and RHP Rocky Cherry are also potential candidates to join the major league roster.
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why?
maybe because he will make a difference
He has 12 holds and one save...
In April he made 10 appearances, 7.2-IP 4-ER, 8 of 10 no runs, in May 12 appearances, 5.1-IP, 5-ER, 10 of 12 no runs, in June 13 appearances 12-IP, 5-ER 9 of 12 no runs, in July 10 appearances, 5.2-IP, 1-ER, 9 of 10 no runs scored...in August 2 appearances 1.1-IP 5-ER...in essence why he was sent down in that he had 5 consecutive no run appearances until those two games.
Overall he has had 37 inherented runners and 5 have scored.
Ohman is an effective LOOGY...not much more.
no way...
Sorry Al - but that error is completely on Theriot. DeRosa made a good throw, and he would have been out easily if Theriot would have caught the ball.
DeRosa made the right decision; Theriot blew the play.
Again - have you actually seen the replay?
No way was that DeRosa's fault.
Sorry, I still disagree.
derosa to theriot...
The sure out?
The "sure out"...
Again...
The out at second shouldn't have been an issue. It was the right decision, and Theriot blew it.
by big_lowitzki on Aug 30, 2007 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions
I watched the replay.
Theriot out of position
he was out of position because he was trying to get himself in position to make a quick throw to 1b
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 30, 2007 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Taken the force?
I still think the inning would have come out just fine under my scenario.
With the benefit
No, I'm not saying that.
You're right that in 99% of similar situations, you try to get the lead runner.
prior to the ball being hit
theriot made the wrong decision trying to turn 2 on a play that would've been nearly impossible to turn 2 on and he dropped the ball
there are PLENTY of times during the year the DP Duo is in "DP Position" before the balls hit and they only get a force and hold the ball instead of throwing it to first
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 30, 2007 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions
The-Riot
I just can't get on him too much...
Tuesday's game was much different for him.
by TheEman on Aug 30, 2007 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Much better than Cedeno's 25 Es
STILL
IMHO, he
by TheEman on Aug 30, 2007 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
But the first
Oh, come on.
How many times
hmmm
... on a routine ground ball to second base, is to throw to first.
so, you believe that it was imprudent of derosa to try and keep weeks out of scoring position in a 2-1 game?
if theiot does what any other ss would do in that situation, 99.9% of the time, the cubs would have had two outs with a runner on 1st.
You can't be series
I agree
Thanks Al
Observing Big Z implode last night...
We've got five years, what a surprise
We've got five years, my brain hurts a lot
We've got five years, that's all we've got
Don't get me wrong. I haven't given up on Z, but, man...he's got to do better. He's just got to.
If the Cubs had lost 2-1 or even 3-1, I'd say...hey, y'know, Ben Sheets is a great pitcher, he stepped up and pitched a great game for his team...kudos to him and Big Z for pitching competitively. But it seems like Big Z had a tendency to fall apart late in the games when the Cubs are trailing. (Disclaimer: I don't have time at the moment to research this impression. Maybe someone else can help me out here.)
Of course, I still must begrudgingly give props to Ben Sheets. This guy did exactly what the Brewers needed -- he played the stopper, gave them hope, provided an example of just how an ace starter can be a team leader.
Ah, well. It's on to the no-name lefty tonight. Craig Monroe, be our savior.
Bowie
by ExNorthsider on Aug 30, 2007 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Glad you liked it!
Totally agree
sorry Al
DeRosa made the right play he had Weeks by 2-3 feet
Theriot made the boneheaded play by trying to turn two on a ball that was too slowly hit and too far in the hole to turn
it was a simple force play
and theriot blew it
Riot's been great all season but last night he was HORRIBLE and one of the main reasons we lost
not getting a sac bunt down with runners on 1st and 2nd and 0 out (of course why are we sac bunting with their starter on the roaps early in the game and the middle of the lineup coming up.... but thats another discussion altogether)
he also had an atrocious AB right after Soriano's ATROCIOUS AB in the 5th, where Riot grounded out on the 1st pitch he saw
in the middle innings the Cubs should have consciously been trying to work counts and get Sheets out knowing he didnt have the stamina to last 100 pitches
instead they flailed away, swinging at everything
Riot's been the hero MANY TIMES this year so its tough to get on him, but last night he was the goat
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 30, 2007 9:22 AM CDT reply actions
Sacrifice
be careful
havent you heard?
Lou Pineilla is the reason this team wins
and when it doesnt win, well Jim Hendry or the players are the reason
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 30, 2007 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Look
what are you stalking me?
i've actively tried to ignore you
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 30, 2007 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
What is going on with the Bats ???
DLee & A-Ram have not seen a pitch on the inner half of the plate in weeks.
Soriano swung at 2 balls 2 - 3 feet in front of the plate.
Hopefully they can adjust and show a little more paitence at the plate, execute those bunts and spray the ball around the entire field.
This team should be 5 games + in front right now.
Keep the faith !!!
Agree on one thing
My humble opinion is everything will work out in the long run. The bats will get hot when September comes and the players see the light at the end of the tunnel.
I still think it's...
It's funny how things go about the power, or lack-of recently. Back in '04 the Cubs lead the NL, if not all of MLB, in HR's but was below avg in runs scored. In fact they were near the top in % of runs scored via the HR.
Now, the HR is missing, and there's a lot of angst. Just like the 10 game stretch a couple months or so ago that the team didn't hit a HR; they went 7-3 in that stretch. I'd like to see that right now.
As for D-Lee, I wonder about his eye-sight. He's been taking more called strike 3's than I can remember. I thought he always had a keen eye. A-Ram's contact numbers are still pretty good and remember he's playing with 2 ailments and will continue to be a bit below 100% until late October...
by blackhawk24 on Aug 30, 2007 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
By the way
by jazzypete on Aug 30, 2007 9:58 AM CDT reply actions
that ab...
his AB against SHouse was just as AB
second picth: FB low and away, ball 2
third pitch: FB low and away (would've been Ball 3), Soriano weekly grounds out to short trying to pull the ball and almost an inning-ending DP
to be up 2-0 in the count with 2 on and to swing at the same exact pitch you've seen twice thats out of the zone... is frustrating to watch
this is what we get with Sori though, flashes of brilliance in extended hot streaks, but he's always been exploited by breaking balls and top-flight pitching
when runners are on he gets pitched around and often gets himself out
by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 30, 2007 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
That pitch looked like it bounced
And don't worry... he heard the boo birds big time after that hideous AB.
It Was Awful
I've attended so many of Big Z's starts
And, I've been let down so many friggin times. Last night, due to the serious implications of this game, was the biggest let down so far.
And let me just crow: that even though we're in a race, there's still a bunch of drunk frat boy retards in the stands near me, who have absolutely no passion for the game whatsoever. really pisses me off.
I have to say...
I wish there was a security checkpoint for DFB
Oh... and another checkpoint for families with 5 kids from Rockford, who have to constantly get up out of their seats and purchase more food and drinks every inning... then never learn the courtesy of when to enter or exit the row.
haha..couldn't agree more..
When to enter or exit the row ....
My experience is that MOST of the folks showing up these days have little or no concept of good fan etiquette.
Even worse is that the overwhelming majority really have no desire to acquire any knowledge of how to behave, either -- just try politely pointing out something and see what kind of reaction it brings !!!
No wonder glass beer bottles are no longer handed to spectators -- they'd become weapons ....
Agreed 100%
I've been sitting down in the 100s on the aisle the last couple of nights, and it has literally been impossible to see half the game over the vendors and people standing up and moving during the game. I'm happily going back to my regular seat in the terraces tonight, because at least the view stays unobstructed for the whole game.
I really wish management would try to do at least something to try to encourage more polite behavior, but they are more interested in selling beer and casual fans than they are in people who really want to actually watch the baseball.
How about a BCB etiquette T-Shirt
- Return to your seat only after an at-bat or during an inning.
- Don't stand up during an at-bat.
- Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through a ballgame.
- Don't throw stuff on the field - Ever! Have some self respect.
- Verbal abuse to the other team is encouraged, but leave profanity and the ballplayer's momma out of it.
- The game happens on the field. Pay attention to it or you might get a foul ball upside the head.
by NO100 on Aug 30, 2007 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Leadoff
When are fragile egos (Soriano wants to leadoff, Zambrano will throw a tantrum if Lou takes him out) going to stop being the priority on this team?
Oh... and for all the positives Kendall brings
A. gonna nail a runner, or
B: make them hesitate to run on him in the future.
Just don't throw. OK. They all end up in CF anyway.
Players who fail to read BCB threads...
Dropped balls at second, hit by pitches, swinging at 55 ft pitches notwithstanding, I thought the critical moment of last night's game happened early on when Theriot couldn't get the sac bunt down with Soriano and Z on base.
If successful, then it's 2nd and 3rd with one out, and Lee's base hit easily scores Z and probably Soriano (even with the bum leg). Instead we're left with bases loaded and eventually no runs.
Made me think of yesterday's (?) thread about bunts and whether players actually practice bunting or not.
Bunting "practice"
While they were all able to get their bunts down, I found it interesting that not a single player squared around. They all did that awkward lean-over-from-the-waist, twist-the-hips, move-hand-up-the-bat stance. Looked kind of lackadaisical to me.
So to whoever raised the question yesterday - yes, they do practice their bunts, but it sure ain't pretty.
[I just got out my Eric Karros game used bat and tried that stance. Ouch! - I think I pulled something...]
It pains me to watch guys stab at the pitch
You're supposed to "catch" the pitch with the bat, and deaden the ball.
They never read our BCB 10 Commandments
i believe...
it is the same inning soriano was called safe at 3b
oops - you're right
Yes, Fred McGriff can come too...
http://espn.go.com/page2/s/caple/030709.html
Let's trade them all!
Trade Soriano for Corey Patterson and Cezar Izturis!
Drop Ramirez down to the 8-hole and bring up someone from Boise!
Deport Zambrano!!!
Castrate Theriot!!!! (And DeRosa too, since we can't agree on whose fault it was!)
Lee apathetic??? Jesum H. Christmas, are we reading minds now?
I mean, I'm sorry he isn't nailing himself to a cross to satisfy your rage, but, really, get over yourselves.
by lancaster99 on Aug 30, 2007 10:37 AM CDT reply actions
doctor, heal thyself
good point, but can you read his mind and determine that he's not apathetic?
His facial expressions
Perhaps he can flagellate himself for you next time. Would 50 lashes be enough or should he do 75 to make you happy?
Perhaps he can sacrifice a child? Or would the family dog be OK?
Please, enlighten us as to how he can prove his interest to you.
by lancaster99 on Aug 30, 2007 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Cubs lineup
The Cubs are dead last in the NL in OPS from the 8th spot in the order and it's not even close. The second-to-last team has a 60 point advantage. That's pretty remarkable considering the Cardinals have been hitting the pitcher 8th lately (they're 14th).
The Cubs are 11th in OPS from the 7th spot in the order, 15th in OPS from the 6th spot, 15th in OPS from the 5th spot, and 10th in OPS in the 3rd spot.
What does this tell me? It means once you get past Ramirez, the rest of the Cubs order is pathetic. It also means that Derrek Lee hasn't exactly been pulling his weight in the 3rd spot (the Cubs are also dead last in the NL in RBI's from their third hitters--mostly Lee). It makes me wonder if this team has enough offensive firepower to get to the playoffs.
No surprise in those stats...
By position as a team:
C: 9th
1B: 4th
2B: 9th
3B: 4th
SS: 13th
LF: 7th (and Soriano is the 8th-best in OPS among NL LF!)
CF: 13th
RF: 12th
That is just atrocious, especially considering that CF and RF haven't exactly provided gold glove defense or tremendous speed, either. At least Theriot has generally been decent defensively and runs well. But overall, this should be a glaring concern. We've got to get more out of our power bats.
by SouthernCub on Aug 30, 2007 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Jones
I think Pie/Jones have actually been pretty good defensively in center. The biggest problem seems to me to be in right. Floyd/Murton/Pagan, etc. have given the Cubs terrible run production and below average defense. Soriano has also been disappointing. You'd think $18 million a year would buy you a top-5 left fielder.
Completely agree...
Also, Lee and Ramirez have been merely pretty good (not spectacular) this year. I wouldn't consider them liabilities in any way, but given that every other position has been average or below average offensively, the fact that they've merely been good doesn't help. It's probably not fair to expect those two to completely carry the offense, but if nobody else is going to do it, that's their burden.
One more thing
Here's where Lee has been a problem...
Which means...
The Cubs would be in last place without their starting rotation staying healthy all year and the bullpen being great since June.
Whoda thunk that Jason Marquis would be the guy to lead us to the most wins?
I don't know who looks more bored out there...
I'm hoping Lilly throws a strong seven and we can put up 6-7 runs.
i couldn't agree more.
Do you and Lee and A-Ram
Psychology from the bleachers in between beers. Gotta love it!
by lancaster99 on Aug 30, 2007 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
hey lancaster?
you're a wiseacre!
Opportunity knocks on this rubber game
My thoughts and I am betting 50/50 Lou changes the lineup for he sees the same thing we do, Soriano is ill prepared to lead off for now. Since the Cubs will face three consecutive left handers Lou will seek cover of trying to find that combo against the southpaws.
Lineup will have Theriot back at leadoff, possibly Kendall #2, then Lee, Ramy, DeRosa, Soriano, Jones, Monroe.
Piniella won't sit back and let things go without doing something that he has control over.
Cubs will win the rubber game and essentially push Milwaukee down again and take a game away from StL.
And as a postscript to Wednesday night
Ask the psychologists
by lancaster99 on Aug 30, 2007 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Being Realistic
But Lou should not even hesitate to go back to what was working the last week. Theriot at the top with Kendall hitting second -- changing it up with Jones hitting second against the righties.
Even Lou admitted that the Milwaukee series was Soriano's rehab ABs. If that's the case, why in hell did he put him back up top when he hasn't looked at gameday pitching in three weeks? It makes absolutely no sense.
Also -- adding fuel to the fire -- why did Lou even let Z start the 7th? He had already thrown a ton of pitches. We were down a run and even if Z holds them, he would have been gone at the end of the inning for a PH. Leaving Z in, not taking him out when Braun came to the plate with the bags loaded, and bringing in Doctor Gasoline (Eyre) to finish, finished us.
Just an all-around bad game with plenty to go around.
The guys on this team need to grab one another by the cahonies and tell them to start hitting like they should, taking some walks (which we all know is hard for them to do), bunt like good little leaguers do, and throw strikes.
Listen, I for one am tired of all the excuses -- we lost but so did the Cards or the Brewers. Well guess what? We need to win when those guys lose so we can take this thing. There are only 31 games left -- soon to be 30 -- then 29 -- and so on. Time will run out. We need to start winning -- get on a streak -- and stop continually trying to be okay with the other guy losing when we do. That is happening much too often.
And please -- like someone said a couple of days ago -- pitch to Pujols like everyone else does with Barry Bonds. I do not care if the bases are empty -- do not take the risk. Who gives a crap what Tony and the rest of the Deadbird Nation thinks.
Agreed.
by TheEman on Aug 30, 2007 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
With a BREW Lefty - hard
Any chance?
by TheEman on Aug 30, 2007 11:02 AM CDT reply actions
LOL
CRAZY BANK ROBBERY!
Clark and Morse. I'm on the lake up in Rogers Park.
Hostages, Squad cars... the whole works.
That's a Chase branch
by TheEman on Aug 30, 2007 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe they're holding Scott Eyre
Its "First Commercial"
by TheEman on Aug 30, 2007 11:44 AM CDT reply actions
Here's some real breaking news!!!
"It's the big one, Elizabeth..."
HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE??!!!!!
by TheEman on Aug 30, 2007 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, NO!!!!!!!11!!
We also sent Buck Coats to the Reds today
I'm drawing a blank, Sack.
Maybe we can get some production out of
something
And not on ESPN! Oh, the irony!
uhhh
/end anti-East Coast rant
by hawkeyenation on Aug 30, 2007 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Can someone explain this to me?
"Everyone makes a bigger deal out of this than it is," Hendry said. "You're allowed not only your 25, but an inventory of everybody that's on your DL, including 60-day DL guys. And they're all wild cards. You can substitute anyone from the system for Mark Prior, and they can be on the playoff roster. ... Everybody thinks if you're not in the dugout by Saturday, you're not eligible. It couldn't be farther from the truth.
"All the rule is for, is you cannot have someone from outside the organization who is not here by Saturday, added to the playoff roster."
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2007/08/hendry-ok-with-.html
Yes, that is true.
But Mark Prior
i believe...
allow me...
Yes he is.
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/team/roster_40man.jsp?c_id=chc
by cubsfan4life on Aug 30, 2007 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Duh. Nevermind...
by cubsfan4life on Aug 30, 2007 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Doesn't matter.
It's a stupid loophole, but teams use it all the time. It's how Francisco Rodriguez -- who did not debut till September 18, 2002 -- became a postseason star that year.
why
more night game$?
Of course, the chance to add another night game didn't hurt either, especially with a developing geographic rival.
I understand why it's a night game -
The thing I was wondering:
Has there ever been a Thursday night game at Wrigley before?
I cannot remember one.
yep, at least a couple
7/15/04 - first game of 4 game series with Mil (after All-Star break)
no, I didn't have this memorized ;-) just happened to have some old pocket schedules nearby...
Ok, I can't stand it any longer
Does this make me a bad person? Do I need therapy?
I blame (credit?) my Yankee hatred on the Indians/Yankees wars of the late 60s early 70s when I was growing up near Cleveland.
no-no is no more...
Real bad. So bad, they almost make Hawk and DJ sound good.
Almost...
I will offer my help
Pick it up Cubbies!!!
Poo-holes
Astros get the leadoff hitter to 3rd in the 6th
Turdbirds..
Pujols....
Id even intentionally walk him with the bases loaded in a 9th inning of a 0-0 game....at St Louis.
Okay maybe that's a stretch, but anything short of that scenario gets the green light for 4 straight to Kendall standing up.
Astros had bases loaded, one out
And that was with the 3 & 4 hitters
Let's hope...
Does Carlos ever have a bad
I don't either.
But there's a first time for everything.
Could be a much better team
Plus, we wouldn't have this stubborn lead-off man issue.
Well we shouldn't let one guy beat us if we
Stros win
Houston won.
by cubsfan4life on Aug 30, 2007 3:37 PM CDT reply actions
This Lefty
Here is to Monroe dialing up and going yard in Wrigley to win it tonight.
by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Aug 30, 2007 5:47 PM CDT reply actions

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