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Ready, And Not Ready

Dave noticed it when the national anthem was sung, today by Wayne Messmer.

The Astros were lined up -- the entire team, not a few stragglers by the bullpen, and some in the outfield, but the ENTIRE team -- outside their dugout. And Dave said to me, "That shows you how Cecil Cooper has laid down some discipline in his first few days as manager."

Cooper's got a pretty good shot at getting the fulltime managing gig in Houston for 2008 -- he's been a longtime coach, and as we all know, Bud Selig (who's known Cooper forever, since his days as a Brewer player) likes to promote minority hiring in those spots.

In his first four games as manager, Cooper's got the Astros playing more inspired -- this isn't unusual; the Cubs even had a managerial bounce when Don Baylor was fired in favor of Bruce Kimm in 2002 (won 9 of their first 13 under Kimm). Today, the Astros played inspired, and the Cubs played tired, and the result was an excruciatingly long, three-hour and six-minute, 6-1 Cub loss to the Astros, in front of another huge throng, 41,297, which raised the average for the 68 home dates to 40,107, and included several thousand yellow-clad Iowa Hawkeyes fans, in town for tomorrow's game vs. Northern Illinois at Soldier Field. I even spotted a few of them wearing yellow T-shirts that read on the front: "Two Wins, One Great Weekend", and on the back: "Cubs Today, Hawkeyes Tomorrow".

Too bad the Cubs didn't oblige, and as ready as the Astros looked, it was as tired and sloppy as the Cubs looked. The emotional lift they could have received from last night's big win just wasn't there -- from the get-go, they looked absolutely flat.

Even at that, the game could have stayed close if it hadn't been for Aramis Ramirez' error on a routine ground ball by Ty Wigginton leading off the fourth inning. That prolonged the inning long enough for Hunter Pence to hit a three-run homer with two out, making all the runs in that inning unearned off Sean Marshall. If not for that, Marshall still might have come out of the game early (he, like Ted Lilly last night, had absolutely no command, walking three in the first inning), but the score would have been 1-0 instead of 4-0, and maybe some of the nine runners the Cubs left on base might have scored. Michael Wuertz made it worse (no, I'm not going to give in to the Wuertz/worse pun) by allowing Pence's second HR of the game in the sixth, giving Pence five RBI (a career high) and putting the game out of reach. Cubs pitchers walked seven today, never a good sign.

Wandy Rodriguez, who came into this game with a road ERA orbiting Jupiter, threw six scoreless, four-hit innings. In only ONE other start on the road this season (a 4-1 Astros win on June 5 in Colorado) did Wandy allow fewer than TWO earned runs. So go figure. The Cubs managed to push across a consolation run in the eighth on three straight singles, one by Ramirez (who had three hits today), one by Craig Monroe, and a pinch-hit RBI single from Daryle Ward.

And that was that. Kerry Wood threw two solid innings in relief and Scott Eyre struck out Mark Loretta and Wigginton in throwing a 1-2-3 ninth, lowering his season ERA to 5.02 (yes, I know that doesn't sound like much, but it was over twelve at one point, and over 7 as recently as June 30). In 17 appearances since that June 30 game, Eyre has thrown 14 innings and allowed two earned runs, for a 1.29 ERA with no HR.

And so let's talk a bit about today's big news, the reacquisition of Steve Trachsel from the Orioles in exchange for Scott Moore and Rocky Cherry.

Trachsel will be 37 years old in October. He is perhaps best remembered as a Cub for being the winning pitcher in the wild-card tiebreaker game on September 28, 1998. He also was the pitcher who allowed Mark McGwire's then-HR record-breaking 62nd HR in St. Louis on September 8, 1998, and for being on the mound during the Chicago Air and Water Show on August 22, 1997, and ducking when one of the Thunderbirds made a particularly low pass over Wrigley Field.

He's further known for taking forever to pitch -- a "Human Rain Delay" of pitchers (Mike Hargrove got that reputation as a player for being one of the first to step in and out of the batter's box multiple times during an at-bat). He's been a bit better about that this year with Baltimore -- see, for example, this start he made against Toronto two weeks ago -- and clearly, the Cubs have been impressed with his performance during the past month. In six August starts Trachsel was 1-1 with a 2.37 ERA and threw at least six innings in five of the six starts.

What do I think? Scott Moore clearly had no place on this club with Lee and Ramirez entrenched at 1B and 3B, so Jim Hendry did him a favor by getting him to a team where he might get a shot (yes, I know the Orioles have Melvin Mora at 3B, but Mora could play other positions, too). Rocky Cherry has a good arm, but I have heard that he isn't good in pressure situations, and with the emergence of Carlos Marmol and the good outings from Kerry Wood, Cherry's sort of superfluous. It does mean I'll never get to write Felix Pie's name after Cherry's on a scorecard, but perhaps the Orioles and Cubs might meet in an interleague game and Cherry could FACE Pie.

This is a "win now" deal, as Trachsel is 37 and a free agent. Is he a savior? No, but he gives you another starting pitcher option; could be a long man in the bullpen, and he did pitch in the postseason for the Mets last year (admittedly, not very well, as he lasted less than two innings in game three of the NLCS, allowing five runs. Incidentally, Trachsel won 60 games as a Cub pitcher from 1993-1999. That's tied for 39th on the all-time club list.

Now, the most important thing is to go out tomorrow and even this series, and I worry because the Cubs will be facing yet ANOTHER young left-hander they haven't seen before -- Troy Patton -- and I worry, too, that something is really wrong with Derrek Lee. He was 0-for-4 today and looked bad doing it, and I don't think the scare from yesterday, when he ran into the plexiglass screen in front of the dugout boxes, has anything to do with it. He probably needs a day off to clear his head, but with a lefty going tomorrow, won't get one. Whatever's wrong with him, he'd better figure it out quickly. The Cubs need his bat to be ON.

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While...
...I think the Cubs are going to win the divison, I don't think they're going to go very far with this offense.

by jolietconvict on Aug 31, 2007 6:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just remember...
... good pitching wins playoff series. Get in and anything can happen.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Aug 31, 2007 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that our Cubs
are already well versed in play-off style baseball.  I do hope Lee gets a day off.  He just seems to be taking a lot of strikes.   Seems like he is guessing pitches and seems to be guessing/hoping wrong.  I love Lee and hope he works his way out of this funk.

We need DLee to have a strong September if we are going to get 17 wins this month and put this division away.

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Aug 31, 2007 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good pitching...
...and power hitting (usually) win playoff series.  Sure, anything can happen.  Last year's Cardinals are the ultimate proof of that.  Odds are however that this team's offense is going to get handcuffed in the playoffs by good pitching.

by jolietconvict on Aug 31, 2007 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Odds....
are this offense isn't good enough to get them to the playoffs....
The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Sep 1, 2007 2:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah,
that's true, ... in any division other than the NL Central.

by wrigley1 on Sep 1, 2007 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup...
but...you GOTTA GET IN the playoffs 1st....
The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Sep 1, 2007 1:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

'This offense'
might not be the offense you see in the postseason, either.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 31, 2007 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you merely *hoping so
or do you have any argument to support that?

by cubsnlinux on Aug 31, 2007 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess it could go either way
Which was my point.

The OP made it sound like a foregone conclusion.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 31, 2007 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

NBF..
He said..

"I think the Cubs are going to win the divison, I don't think they're going to go very far with this offense."

He didn't conclude anything in that statement rather I see some cautious optimism. He said that the Cubs *are going to win this division and that he doesn't **think that they will go deep in the playoffs given our offense. As you said the cubs offense *might revert to its july form. So both the arguments carry weight. The problem with you is you simply call out people when you yourselves base your arguments on probabilities.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 31, 2007 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't calling out anybody
He made an assertion. I made another one.

There was nothing hostile or aggressive about it.

I think you're just seeing what you want to see. Fair enough.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 31, 2007 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really like the move
Hard to admit as many of us loathed Trachsel for his 6 hour games but its clear the roation needs some help.

No question D Lee is far from 100%. He looks lost at the plate and hasnt made good contact in weeks. I just hope its something can be turned around still this year.

Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 31, 2007 6:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Trachsel sucks but maybe.....
he can frustrate our opponents into submission!

by Itchy on Aug 31, 2007 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think his wrist will
really ever be fully healed for a while -- didn't somebody with expertise in this type of injury state that earlier this year? For you or I, no big deal -- but for an athlete -- really big deal, for at least 2 years. (or, something to that effect)

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 31, 2007 7:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe.
Example: Carlos Delgado. Similar case. After injury, less power and less frequent hitting this year.

by Fraggin Judge on Aug 31, 2007 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bottom line Cubs will need to start
one AAA pitcher between now and the Cardinals series, better to have a MLB pitcher. But Piniella is thinking of going with a modified 6-man rotation....

Good move...getting into the playoffs takes costs, trading a 23 year old who was not going to play is not a cost.

Milw-09-24-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Aug 31, 2007 7:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why Trachsel?
Steve Trachsel has greater value to the Cardinals (horrendous schedule, shredded arms) and Brewers (shredded arms) than he does to the Cubs. I think this was a defensive move, and I think Andy McPhail gave Jim Hendry the chance to match or exceed the offers that one or the other club made for ST.

by BruceR on Aug 31, 2007 7:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lee
It was noticed early in the year that Lee just simply doesn't have the bat speed he's had in the past.  In fact, it's even slower now.  He's missing mediocre fastballs down the middle of the plate with regularity.  The lack of bat speed is also the reason why he's not hitting HR's, particularly HR's to left and left center.  Whether that's wrist related or something else, it's really that simple.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. -- Lee Constantine Elia, 1983.

by krummy12 on Aug 31, 2007 8:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

"It was noticed..."
By whom? I agree that somethin is amiss (badly) w- DLee- but have not heard ANYONE in the know bring this up before... Krummy- are you an insider - or do you have statistical (ie measured) proof of this?

by section101 on Aug 31, 2007 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you don't need _statistical_ proof
for something that you can watch with your two eyes. I agree that Lee has been unable to make contact on mediocre fastballs that he used to crush before. Even if he was able to make contact they are only hit with warning track power.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 31, 2007 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bingo
All you have to do is watch, and I've seen him close up and on TV and it's plainly obvious that he's lacking his usual bat speed.  That happens from time to time with all hitters but he's had unusually long stretches of it this year.  Makes no difference why or how or whatever, and you surely don't need statistical data to support it.  
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. -- Lee Constantine Elia, 1983.

by krummy12 on Sep 1, 2007 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coaches?
I love that you 2 are so adamant that THIS MUST BE THE PROBLEM WITH D LEE. I love the fact that BCB members can diagnose with such authority! Get Lee and G PErry on the phone- we've figured it out...

All said in jest boys...

by section101 on Sep 1, 2007 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What I remember is somebody
who was a medicial professional,  who didn't post much here but explained D. Lee's injury in depth. He/she said that it takes a long time for an athlete to recover from this specific injury. You, or I may notice some discomfort from time to time (if we suffered such an injury) but it would be meaningless, to us.

To an athlete who needs wrist action -- this would very problematic for a while -- I seem to remember "2 years" but that may be incorrect.

I remember the post to be very informative.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 31, 2007 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

NL is watered downas a whole.
NL Central is getting labeled as a really bad Division but in all reality the NL as a whole is not very good. That's the only reason the Cubs are 3 games over .500. It's a joke. I mean how in the world does a team like the Cubs have a losing record in the month of August and gain 3 1/2 games and trip into first place.

 Out West you've got a young DBacks team with some very promising young talent leading the NL West. They're getting outscored and still winning the West. Not a great rotation and certainly nowhere near the rotation they had in 2001. Webb is good but they don't have the top 2 they once had.

 That's what all the teams in the NL have in common: No Stud aces and certainly nothing in the order of 2 great top of the rotation pitchers for any team.
 As far as the Cubs go, they need to make the Playoffs this year because barring more Free Agent signings, I don't see them getting much better next year, while you've got young teams even in this Division, like the Brewers and even the Reds, who will get better.

 Lilly's having a Career year and I still don't consider him a solid #2. He's a good #3. I don't see any arms either from the system pushing Zambrano in the 2nd spot in the rotation. 2007 IMO has been disappointing for the Cubs system as far as breakout years or a solid year following a breakout year in 2006. Gallagher is another overhyped Cubs Minor Leaguer. I actually think Petrick will have a better career as a starter.

 Pie has proven he isn't nearly as far as he should be in his developement and there are countless CF prospects on other teams who have flown by Pie and are contributing.

 

by lemon20pie on Aug 31, 2007 8:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree
That's why I don't understand why people constantly label this team as "Very Good". They are *not a very good team. A very good team will run away with this weak central division. This team is average at best and this year it is helped by the incompetence of other teams in this division. Whoever will suck less in September will make it to the playoffs.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 31, 2007 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree...disagree...agree...
Cubs need to use the window this year....cus  I don't see anything that will make this any different that any other good Cub year....at least 2 miserable seasons to follow.

The pitchins staff is "pitching above their heads".

BUT...also w/ three lefty starters...and BTW...the Cubs aren't the only team that struggles against lefty starters.....that makes them very dangerous in the playoffs....(kinda sorta ala DeadTurds last year).....

Yankees, BoSox and Angles ALL struggle mightily against lefties....

BUT....the Cubs need some of the regular 9 that play everyday to get together and START SCORING SOME RUNS.....

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Aug 31, 2007 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why even bother
playing next season, then?

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 31, 2007 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cause we might win
the battle of suckitude as you yourself cite the 2006 cardinals as an example so many times.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 31, 2007 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've never cited the Cardinals
but it still would be worth playing the season, anyway.

As I recall, I don't think too many "experts" were giving the Cubs much of a chance this season, either.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 31, 2007 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pirates Stink (They Lose Tonight)
But I would much rather have the Brewers play them now than the last week of the season -
¡BLANCO!

by 08Cubs on Aug 31, 2007 9:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You know
The talk about the NL Central being bad has me thinking. Is it possible that these teams are actually pretty good and very evenly matched? I don't have any numbers to back up this assertion. I don't even think I'm asserting it.

Just a though.

phat

by phatass on Aug 31, 2007 9:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's possible, but
what is the NL Central's record against everybody else? I don't know, I'm just asking.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 31, 2007 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been looking
Sometimes some stats are hard to find. Well, by that I mean I'm not very good at finding them.

I'm going to guess their not very good. But at the same time, it's hard to draw any conclusions on a very small number of outcomes.

phat

by phatass on Aug 31, 2007 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe more importantly
what is the central's record in the last month or two to the rest of the pack?

by Cajuncub on Aug 31, 2007 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a good question
I'm going to have to look into that.

I can't right now because my wife and I are going to watch a movie.

phat

by phatass on Aug 31, 2007 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

an excellent point that I always try to make...
..and get shot down by my friends who are baseball fans.  but i think it's a valid argument.  the central has, i would argue, a disproportionate number of the top sluggers in the game (pujols, fielder, soriano, carlos lee, dunn, griffey, berkman and a-ram--and ryan braun, as of late) and it's hard to call a division with that much firepower offensively deficient compared to everyone else (though, lately, the cubs have been doing they're best to prove it.)

the retort to this argument is that the Central's pitching staffs are weak, and the team's supporting hitters around the big sluggers are, on average, worse than average.  i think it's undeniable that the pitching in the central this year has been truly abysmal.  i don't know if you could make fivesome out of the ENTIRE central that would rival some of the yankees/red sox staffs earlier this decade (zambrano/oswalt/harang/lilly(?)....tough to fill out.)  but on the other hand, I think the Cubs' and Brewers' "role players" are pretty darn good..

anyways, I think it's popular to bash the central, especially in the last couple months when crucial elements of each of the frontrunning teams went into full collapse mode.  but I still think the NL Central is better than the NL West at least.  maybe the AL Central.  on a good day.  

LET'S GET EM TOMORROW!!!

by PrincetonCubs on Aug 31, 2007 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe that
Comedy Central has provided the team for the World Series the last few years.  I think that is all that matters.
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Sep 1, 2007 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nightmare of day.
cubs got dominated. the pirates had a great chance to tie the game late and blow it.

the reds score 3 in the first can't hold it. the cardinals get a grand slam out ankiel.

whew. ugly. still in first place though.

big day tomorrow. let's get these games back.

"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Aug 31, 2007 9:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Playing the early game can put presure on
the Brewers and RedBirds,,,but it can also motivate them...when we lose!  I agree that it is important to win today against the no-name lefy.  GO CUBS
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Sep 1, 2007 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

D Lee
seems to be tired at the dish. He has been getting called out looking at strike three all the time. Hitting the other way has always been a good trait of his, but it looks like when he gets a pitch in his wheelhouse or inner half he isn't putting a good swing on it. He had the one he hit off the wall in AZ for his inside the park HR, but that's that hardest thing I have seen him hit in a week.

Overall, the Cubs are winning without the big bombs, which is fine, but a couple with men on now and then would help us put teams away instead of letting them hang around. Don't get me wrong, I love manufacturing runs, that's how the game should be played, and the HR's take care of themselves. But, we are in such a HR drought that I have never seen on this team in many years. Even when we sucked, we were good for some HR's. Between Rammy and Lee, they should be good for what, 10-15 in a month combined? How many have they hit in August, 5?

Getting tired of the starter laboring in the first inning already. By the time the 5th or 6th hitter has come up, they've see all his pitches. Marshall battled as Lilly did, but the offense sucked today. I feel bad for Theriot, he is hitting the ball to right with authority but right at the right fielder.

I agree, a better team would put this division championship in their back pocket already. We are still just a .500 team basically, thank God we are in the Comedy Central. I believe we have more talent than our record indicates, but no one is having a really "great" year and carrying us like some hitters tend to do. We still leave a ton of men on base, in scoring position or not. I have a feeling this will go to the very last game of the season.

"When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches."- Ron Santo

by BigJohnAZ on Aug 31, 2007 9:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Some Thoughts
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought that teams with the worst records have the option on a waivered player. As such, the Pirates, Astros, Reds, Cards, and Brewers would all have had the opportunity to claim Trachsel and offer players in trade. We know that the Pirates, Astros, and Reds would have had no interest. But what about the Cards and Brewers. Both of them right now are hurting in a big way for starters. Why then did we pick the Hypnotic Mr. Trachsel? So he had a good month -- the league is still hitting .279 against him and he walked 69 batters in 140 innings. What the hell is impressive about that?

WE NEED SOME GUYS WHO CAN HIT THE BALL AND DRIVE IN RUNS !!!

Do you really think Craig Monroe is the answer? Ask yourself why the Tigers got rid of him. If they had any confidence in the guy, they would not have rid themselves of Monroe.

It is time to feed on the bottom feeders. Wandy Freaking Rodriguez? You've got to be kidding me. We are trying to take the cake and we let this guy beat us?

A comment about D. Lee -- prior to his great year in 2005, Lee usually had a dramatic drop off in late August and into September. Are we seeing history repeat itself? Granted -- he has been suffering for a couple of weeks with a bushel full of Ks and a lot of weak fly outs and grounders. Realistically, he has looked a lot like JJ did for the 3-1/2 months. He just shows no energy and he is just not driving the ball anywhere.

One last thing -- Al -- could you please hold off on the Scott Eyre stuff. Lowering his ERA? With the number of failures we have seen with this guy most of the year, can't we just let him crawl into a hole somewhere and forget about him? And by the way, how about the 31 walks he has given up in 42 innings. Trachselesque to say the least.

by ceegeewow on Aug 31, 2007 10:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Drive Them In and Hit
The guys alreay on this team who are not doing the job -- we saw them today. Our problem continues to be the lack of clutch hitting -- not a lack of decent starters -- and I am not about to put Mr. Trachsel in that category.

by ceegeewow on Aug 31, 2007 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ceegeeow...
You are all over it...

Bruce (not)....your also right...producers aren't to be had at this point in the season....

But this offense flat out hasn't produced MOST of the year if not all of it....the picthing went from darn good to awesome during the June/July streak.....

Don't know what else to say, but if guys don't start stepping up to the plate and BE WINNERS this season will end up looking like '79 and not '03.......

St. Louis, Milwaukee, Cincinnati, and Houston are all scoring runs and looking hungry...the Cubs...well...they looked flat out lost today on a day they could have stepped up and made a statement to the rest of the division...

All that one game this or that crap is out the window...the Cubs used that as an excuse for 4 months while they lost games like this....that they shoulda won...now they are paying the price....

The 1.5 gamne lead is going to evaporate very fast if this team doesn't starty scoring runs in bunches fast.....

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Aug 31, 2007 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Looked flat today"
Is this a product of a day game after a night game? Everywhere else this would have been a night game, as would Saturday's game. Is this where the "Wrigley Factor" (not enough night games, especially NOT on Friday) comes into play?

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 31, 2007 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey....
I enjoy your cam posts and insight.

Do you work in media/MR?

My only counter point is that should be home field advantage for the Cubs....

But...also an argument could be made that it is Cubs ownership at fault for not "scheduling" to maximize team performance.

My guess is the Stroh's got in last night in time to watch the last couple innings...

Lest we not forget though...this is baseball and not rocket science or medicine....

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Aug 31, 2007 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't stand when they use this excuse.
They played 3 night games vs Milwaukee... looked like absolute crap in all 3, yet still managed to win the series, even though they left 54 men on base and made 3 errors.
1-RUN GAMES = 17-19 | EXTRA INNINGS = 2-7 | HOME = 35-33 | updated on9/1

by SackMan on Sep 1, 2007 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Craig Monroe
Let's not throw yet another Cubs player under the bus prematurely.  Yes, Craig Monroe is a good pickup for us.  We wanted to improve out hitting vs lefties, and Craig still hits lefties.  Seems pretty obviously a good move.

The Tigers got rid of him because they have a younger and cheaper guy who can hit lefties AND righties.  Makes sense for them to move Monroe.

Makes sense for us too.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 1, 2007 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

While I'm waiting and hoping...
If this sorry ovepaid excuse for an offense doesn't start producing....when Oct. 1 rolls around the Cubs MIGHT be looking at 5th place....The Turds and Beermen certainly looked much more hungry than the Cubs today....and if this anemic offense cintinues it's trend of not scoring, the Reds and Stroh's are certainly capable of catching and surpassing this team.

I don't mean to be a downer or negative...but I've been screaming form more offense all year and itr just isn't coming.

Meanwhile, major leagure hitters on other teams are stepping up and making a dufference.  

Where is Derek Lee?    Where is Aramis Rameriez?  Where is Cliff Floyd?  Jones is finally stepping up sometimes....but where was he in April, May and June...had he shown up then, the Cubs might be 5 or 6 games up at this point.

Another 4.50 + ERA pitcher embarrased the Cub offense...and another choke fest from the offense.

And another leadoff hitting CF shows up Soriano (who didn't play today) by taking the game in his hands and saying * I WANNA BE A WINNER*.  

When are the Cubs gonna gave some guys on offense with some cajones...step up and BE WINNERS?

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Aug 31, 2007 10:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Cardinals and Brewers
looked a lot less hungry than the Cubs did yesterday, too.

Good God, reading some of your whiny-azz comments is too much. Some of you need to get a grip, or emotionally you'll never make it to October.

And I certainly hope nobody on the Cubs is making a "dufference," whatever that is.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 31, 2007 10:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You need't worry
about if "we" are going to make it to October or not. The question is do the cubs have it in them to make it to October. Why don't you understand that no one is freaking out just because of today's loss? Why do you think that you are the sole terminator this side of the world who has an emotional grip on things? I feel like your arguments are the mirror image of what exactly is wrong with the whole cubs organization. Most of the thoughts and opinions floated by the posters are valid and based on the happenings in the last 30 or so games.  Rather than stepping back, making an honest assessment of things  and planning a recipe for success, the cubs brass does things like putting a cover on a mattress the wrong way. You slide the cover over one side and the other side comes out.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 31, 2007 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes...
Thank you for speaking coherently, and without name calling...for an angry Cub fan who expects more.
The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Aug 31, 2007 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if it's too much,
why don't you take a break?
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Aug 31, 2007 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why don't you?
If you think this team is doomed to failure, you should take a break.

Let's play the games and see what happens.

No wonder Cubs fans have a bad reputation. They go through more boxes of Depends than anybody else.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 31, 2007 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why don't you...
reserve your venom for the people (like Cardinal fans) that actually deserve it...

Your reply was uncalled for....he was posting to not even me....but I think...coggerrs..they guy I replied to.

I admire you undying loyalty and optimism....but...have been down that road before...unless dramatic changes take place...Cubs don't have a playoff caliber offense...yes...the NL Norris suck$...and they could get thru by default....but....I see lotta runs being scored the last month...sure hope the Cubs do their fair share...

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Aug 31, 2007 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was replying to
Cubslinux....or possibly me....I used the angry word instead of disappointed....
The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Sep 1, 2007 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was replying to me
and I don't think anything was uncalled for about it. The venom is well-deserved.

Every season has its ebbs and flows, its high points and low points. "Dramatic" changes do not have to take place for this team. They have to score a bit more, granted. But their scoring in June and July was just fine. Frankly, it was for a good part of April and May, too, but the bullpen was a wreck.

I'm not sure why some of you think the team is incapable of scoring the way they did for, to date, about half the season.

I liken being a Cubs fan, sometimes, to being an escapee from a concentration camp. Always paranoid, always looking over their shoulder, always expecting the worst. If Cubs culture ever is to change, that has to change, too.

Few people were giving this team a chance before the season. I am going to enjoy it instead of agonize over every twist and turn in the road. If they're good enough, they'll win the division. If they aren't, they won't, but it still will be a huge improvement over last season.

Chicken Littles should start their own Web site someplace. Otherwise, man up and let's see where this road takes us, shall we?

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 1, 2007 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes
but unfortunately it looks like our low points dwarf our high points to the point of being negligible. NBF, this is a catch 22 situation. Even if some are paranoid you can't find fault with that. There are some cub fans out there who are so old that they just fear that they might not be able to see their team win the WS. Every time they watched Neifi swing the bat as the starting SS they might have become more paranoid and more dejected. "I am going to enjoy it.." - Please go ahead and do your thing but just don't belittle other posters, their opinions and thoughts.

by cubsnlinux on Sep 1, 2007 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh please
"bad reputation"
Says who? Oh the other teams no wonder. Give me a break. The Cub fans are the most devoted fans in all sports and on this planet. Do you know that we haven't won a world series in 100 years? Do you know that day in and day out the same cub fans fill the ball park every day? The same cub fans were standing up on a two strike count for the last out every day of that miserable 2006 season until they couldn't take it any more. You make comments as if we are winning the division consistently every year for the past 15 years, won a few WS rings during that time and we are all freaking out for no reason right now.

"Let's play the games and see what happens" - Aren't we doing that for the past gazillion years? Hey how about we finally use our brains, do some constructive criticism and try to figure out how to win rather than putting ourselves on auto pilot and merely trying to "see what happens". Please do not belittle cub fans by saying that they go through boxes of depends. We are the best fans out there and at least show emotion than our players have shown today on the field. We are in a pennant race, it is a privilege for all those players and they should play every game from now on as if there is no tomorrow rather than saying "We will go get em tomorrow" because you know what there might not be a tomorrow. There will only be a next year and we are about enter the 100th year of that book.

by cubsnlinux on Sep 1, 2007 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So...
did we just out Bruce (not) as a troll in disguise?
The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Sep 1, 2007 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Troll in disguise is an understatement
Some times I just feel like his real life name is either Jim Hendry or Crane Kenny

by cubsnlinux on Sep 1, 2007 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

...or...
Walt Jockity (or Kenny Wiliams)....
The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Sep 1, 2007 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would put my bucks on him being someone
in the towers. Our woes are because of the insiders. They made a Disney Land out of Wrigley Field. That's fine with me, I don't have any problem with that but you should never neglect your core product and that is the baseball team.

I feel that for most of us cub fans witnessing our team win a world series is the true salvation.

by cubsnlinux on Sep 1, 2007 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Constructive criticism?
Like "We're gonna be in fifth place soon?" And "everybody in the division looks hungry except us"? Based on one day's results? Yeah, that's real constructive.

Really, we don't have any control over what the Cubs do, or how they do it. All we can do is watch, debate strategy, etc. But that's it.

If the Cubs approached every game like it's no tomorrow, they'd be burned out by next week. And you know what? Even if they did that, they'd still lose some games. From what I gather, they lose no games because the other team was better. It's always because the Cubs stunk. At least that's what some of the Einstones around here think.

I want to see the Cubs win a World Series, too. I'm certainly glad the players are on a much more even keel than a lot of their fans, who seem prone to manic depression and mass hysteria from one inning to the next.

Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 1, 2007 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you even know
that there has to be 2 differing opinions or arguments for a debate. That is exactly what we are all trying to make you understand. We are debating. You on the other hand is freaking out that all the people around here are slitting their wrists because they lost today. Its you who always want everyone to wear rose colored glasses and sip your pink lemonade, yet at the same time you say that we should have a debate.

by cubsnlinux on Sep 1, 2007 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, then debate
but you aren't debating. What you're doing is the verbal equivalent of killing a fly with a howitzer.

Your constant degrading of people who don't flip off the handle at every loss at "pink lemonade sippers" and agents of the Cubs front office is ridiculous.

Maybe those of us who don't do things like that just have a better handle on reality than you do.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 1, 2007 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And you labelling fellow fans
who are trying to express their opinions as - "morons" , people who have no control over their emotions, "Chicken Littles" ain't helping the purpose either. The world isn't flat my friend and bad karma is really bad.

by cubsnlinux on Sep 1, 2007 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And you and your ilk
are spewing bad karma like it's going out of style.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 1, 2007 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forest thru the trees...
I'm not talking bout just today...I'm talking about a season long issue with baserunners not scoring......

This has been an issue ALL YEAR ... today was just another glaring example....Hank White and Derek Lee weren't as good as that Astro's CF today....and that was the difference in the game.

the Cubs left and appaling 22 runners on base in the middle game they lost to the Brew Crue

What's the Turd Trend over the last 40 games?  And the Cubs?

The LOB issue has been around since day1...it ain't a new phenomenon....it's just a hard to trach phenom....

Hopw many runs had the '06 Cubs scored at this point last year?

Sometimes you do need to tip your cap....BUT today...another 4.5+ ERA pitcher showed up the crap excuse for an offense...this was a game that a playoff team should expect to win....if Oswalt did it I might not be so critical....

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Sep 1, 2007 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, boy
No, they weren't as good as Pence was today. Odds are Pence won't be as good as they are tomorrow.

Maybe the difference in the game is that Marshall didn't pitch well and Rodriguez did.

BTW, the Cubs left nine on base in the middle-game loss to Milwaukee, not 22. The Brewers left eight on base.

I don't care how many runs the 2006 Cubs had at this point last year. They were in, what, fifth place? This team isn't.

You claim you're not looking at one game, but you keep talking about today's game.

God, my head is hurting trying to talk to you.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 1, 2007 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ohhh
"Maybe the difference in the game is that Marshall didn't pitch well and Rodriguez did."

Eureka..Thank you Archimedes..You did it.

by cubsnlinux on Sep 1, 2007 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

now that
you figured it all out all by yourself, how about solving the puzzle of how to score runs against "well pitching" pitchers. Looks like you know our fingers are hurting tipping the cap day in and day out and the other teams are flat out refusing to start crappy pitchers against us. The chicago cubs future depends on you now.

by cubsnlinux on Sep 1, 2007 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Burned out would be the meek, the weak
and the incapable and the mediocre. Gosh you don't have any fire in you do you? How many times do we have to make you understand that we are not complaining about losing a game. Do you even read the entire posts before responding or do you have a  script somewhere that randomly picks sentences and posts? Yes NBF, we all realize how hard it is to win all 162 games, you don't need to expend your energies on explaining that. It is not about loosing my friend. Did you hear what Bob said during the game when Marshall was pitching around Carlos Lee? He said if you got to walk him anyways throw pitches on his hands, push him off the plate, make him move his feet, make him uncomfortable at the plate, plunk him if he is leaning to far inside and that will send him a message and will set a tone for the rest of the series. This is the fire that I am talking about. Oh well you are going to see "what happens" so why would I even bother?

by cubsnlinux on Sep 1, 2007 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amen! Bruce!
n/t
SOMEDAY…

"If they won a world championship, sure, we'd be proud. But we couldn't love them any more than we already do " -anonymous Cub fan

by hellfreezesoverwaittillnextyear on Sep 1, 2007 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you can't spot a
typu from they keyboard.....and feel the need to post...I feel the need to post back.......

I wish you worked on wall street......all Americans need people that look at the long run and not just short term gains.....

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Aug 31, 2007 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the month of August
we scored 114 runs, gave up 137. Our W-L was 12-16. Need to reverse that in September. Can't expect the others to keep losing. We were outscored an average of almost a run a game. Just presenting the facts, YOU decide lol

Not trying to rain on our first place parade, but do we have the team to do what the Cards did last year after limping into the playoffs?

"When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches."- Ron Santo

by BigJohnAZ on Aug 31, 2007 11:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hope springs atumnal....
The reverse will probably (no gaurantees) get the job done.....I think the Cubs have 29 games left...

If they can go 17-12 (step up offense)....that would leve them 85-77......that's going to be stressful.............it's really doubtful 85-77 will get a wild card...

I'd really like to see 19-10.....thad' be 87-75....and...that might (not likely...but chance) get a wild card if someone else in the Norris get's hot....

They should start by getting the next two from the strohs....

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Sep 1, 2007 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

..sorry...didn't answer your ?...
IF they cubs can get in the playoffs...NOBODY wants to play them....GOOD starting pitching and possibly able to throw 3 lefties at "you"....

Dangerous playoff team...gotta get there....bad side is...better constructed to beat an AL team than an NL team......my feel is would WIN a world series....but has to get there.....

Matchups against Mets..??  Phillies...???  AZ...think Cubs would win....SD....bad matchup for Cubs...Dodgers...we'll see Monday-on....

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Sep 1, 2007 2:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's 12:01 Central Time
And I would like to wish everyone a HAPPY HUSKER GAMEDAY!!!

Gotta love the first College Football Saturday of the Year.  Here's to the Cubs winning and the Huskers following it up with a whooping on Nevada (ABC Regional, 2:30pm)

There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Sep 1, 2007 12:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I do not like the Huskers
but you have a good time anyway!
It is SEPTEMBER, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Sep 1, 2007 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just got an Invoice for Cubs
PLAYOFF TICKETS!

Why do they do this to me, now?

It is SEPTEMBER, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Sep 1, 2007 1:02 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Better than the alterntive.....
....

How long for the refund if the Cubs don't hold up?

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Sep 1, 2007 2:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sigh.
Yes, I got mine too. I hope I get to spend every dime of the money.

For the first time, the Cubs are allowing credit card payments for postseason tickets (in 2003 and 2004 it had to be by check).

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 1, 2007 4:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh..and yea....
Do you need a loan... (tickets are collateral...0
?
The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Sep 1, 2007 2:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

More of the same
This game today is a microcosm of Chicago Cubs baseball for decades. They give us hope through a great effort one day, then wet their pants the next.

I will go on record now - the Cubs will not win the division.

Why?

  1. Winning teams have a home field advantage - this team has none. Visiting teams come into Wrigley with absolutely no fear.
  2. Lou Pinella is doing a mediocre job in motivating (Getting them ready to play ball - they were not ready today) and teaching this team (why are they still swinging at bad pitches and refusing to work a count?). Lee needs some time off, and Pinella keeps penciling him in every day. Zambrano is hurt (I read that in an baseball article, and heard it again from one of the color commentators of an opposing team) and is going to blow out his arm if he isn't rested.
  3. I do not see enough "hungry" players on this team. Theriot, DeRosa, Jones, and most of the pitching staff are hungry, and come ready to play every day. I don't see it in Lee, Ramirez, Soriano, and maybe even Pinella.
  4. They still lack whatever it is (character, self-confidence, or pride) that separates the winning teams from the losing teams.
  5. They desperatelhy need new ownership and new direction as an organization from top to bottom. The weak farm system is just one example of that.
I hope they don't fall to third or fourth place, or below 500, but they will be overtaken by both the Cardinals and the Brewers in the next few weeks.

After that series I thought they were finally showing signs of maybe learning what it takes to win. But today showed me that they are still the "lovable losers."

I loved it when Harry cried, "Cubs Win, Cubs Win!"

by Ken Hubbs on Sep 1, 2007 2:13 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And the Yankees
lost to Tampa Bay 9-1 today.

How did that happen? What a bunch of chokers.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 1, 2007 2:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

C'mon...
Senator Craig...you don't need to hide in the closet anymore....

Really.....what are you...17/18...You are trying to take on a whole community who's witnessed almost 100 years of ownership not putting the best possible product on the field in the name of the almighty dollar.......yes...I know....conservitive principals in Chicago....amazing, ain't it.

Your fighiting hundreds of people who WANT just what you do...for the Cubs to win...but are watching lots of other teams that look like they can score some runs and win some games....Cubs...just went 12-16 in August...yes they gained ground...but 12-16 in September will yield 5th place in the NL Norris.....

Let's all hope September is a new month...more like June 15th to July 15th for the Cubs....

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Sep 1, 2007 2:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You sound like a real Cub fan
Like everyone on this blog, you want the Cubs to win, a World Series, even a Pennant would be nice (none since 1945, neither the Red or White Sox have been that inept!!!).

I don;t believe the Wrigley's ever cared if the Cubs won or lost, as you aluded to above, it has been profits over investment in producing a competitive product.

Now we have the Tribune Company, and they are worse!!! At least Wrigley could point to the sparse crowds in the 60's and 70's (I remember listening on the radio and the crowd sounded like a High School game with all the kids voices), and say the fans don't care either. But now, the team has been breaking attendance records since the 90's and they still won't do what is necessary to build a solid baseball team. And buying Soriano, Lilly, and DeRosa is not building a winner. All it is is a bandage for a deep and dangeerous cancer.

I have been through enough heartache with this team to last a lifetime. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! We are the best fans on earth and we deserve better.

I loved it when Harry cried, "Cubs Win, Cubs Win!"

by Ken Hubbs on Sep 1, 2007 3:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Best fans on earth..."
Please reflect on your belief statement a bit more.

"Best fans" to me doesn't mean whining and complaining incessantly when things don't go right.  Especially when we, as fans, have NO control over any of the outcomes, save CHEERING and supporting our team positively and LIVE at the games.  This is EXACTLY what many of the loyal and caring Cubs fans do wherever and whenever this team plays-2007 is no exception.

I've had more than my share of frustrations, complaints, and disappointments following the Cubs since the early 1950s.  However, I continue to take stock that I want to enjoy and rejoice when they finally do win it all.  Constantly negative and pessimistic thoughts are destructive and will taint and poison your ultimate enjoyment and memories of this or any season.

The combination and order of wins that will be needed to take this division is an unknown.  I'm not promoting drinking the blue koolaid and ignoring the obvious weaknesses.  I've been through more than a half century of the current "Chasing October" journey.  

You can learn to appreciate all of the quirks, turns, misplays, and wretched games, as well as the unexpected come-from-behind, walk-offs, and glorious triumphs that also emerge just when you think all hope is lost.

The 2007 Cubs are still alive, and just like ANY player with a bat in his hands standing at the plate with a pitch still to hit, can be dangerous and get a hit.  

Predictability and certainty is NOT what baseball is all about.  For me, that's what keeps me watching, and BleedingCubbieBlue!

SOMEDAY…

"If they won a world championship, sure, we'd be proud. But we couldn't love them any more than we already do " -anonymous Cub fan

by hellfreezesoverwaittillnextyear on Sep 1, 2007 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am going to say this only once
Look, whoever you are, this blog is for Cub fans, not daisies that live in the Emerald City.

I will express my opinion whenever I choose, and in whateveer manner I choos, as long as I remain within the clear boundaries Al has articulated for this blog.

I gave reasons for my comment. Prove me wrong, or go down the rabbit hole.

For all the other posters out there like me who are sick of this guy butting in everytime we speak in any way contrary to his "dictates." I, for one,  am not going to respond to him. That is what he wants, note how often he retreats into the language of the playground, "I know you  are but what am I?" "Your'e a moron." "Your'e a troll." "Your'e an idiot." Does he ever respond with a cogent, well thought out argument...uh, no.

So, little buddy, have a nice day, and sleep tight.

I loved it when Harry cried, "Cubs Win, Cubs Win!"

by Ken Hubbs on Sep 1, 2007 2:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Goodbye, all
I really don't think I can keep coming here and watching people's heads explode every time the Cubs don't score in an inning.

Sports is supposed to be fun. You all are making it depressing.

Enjoy your misery.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 1, 2007 2:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It Should Be Fun
Thanks for some real world perspective.  

Time to get a grip, kids ...  life can't be too bad if all we've got to bitch about is the Cubs.  

As Cub fans we're all members of the same "tribe", after all, so let's try to avoid turning on each other, please.

GO CUBS GO !!!!

by wrigley1 on Sep 1, 2007 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, tough night Bruce.
We take 2 0f 3 from Brewers, not playing our best ball, then have an off day "let down after that series and it seems a few bloggers want to write off the whole season.  Too bad Kerry Wood threw well yestersday, as he is usually on their crap list too.  Maybe tomorrow.

Glad to see you keeping your optimism.  I am with you all the way.  I think Lou is keeping this team on an even emotional ride and I think they will hold up well down the stretch.  I have a feeling we will score plenty against this no name lefty--something that has been a problem for the Cubs all year.

On to September!!

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Sep 1, 2007 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disgrace to the real Ken Hubbs!
First place on September 1st!

As a fan, a CUBS fan, this is what we dream of during the many lousy seasons of watching other teams get into the playoffs, and win World Series.

Have some faith!

Enjoy the unpredictability and excitement of the final piece of this journey regardless of "having a perfect team, etc."  Often the least expected players step up at the most critical moments.  The Cubs are WAY OVERDUE, and this TEAM might just be the ones to surprise everyone.  This scenario is the stuff that dreams are made of.

Enjoy the thrill, hope, and surprises ahead that the FIRST PLACE Cubs can bring to September-into-October baseball.  Would you rather watch the last place Cubs going into September?

SOMEDAY…

"If they won a world championship, sure, we'd be proud. But we couldn't love them any more than we already do " -anonymous Cub fan

by hellfreezesoverwaittillnextyear on Sep 1, 2007 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I appreciate your thoughts
If you have been a Cubs fan since the mid fifties, then you have earned your medals. I go back to the 64 season and have seen this team blow more games, leads, and crucial situations for years now with no signs that the situation was going to get better without a significant change in the losing environment!  

I appreciate your wanting to be positive, but until I see a real reversal of what has been "Cub losing baseball 101" they will find a way to blow it.

That is all I am saying, I want to see the changes occuring on the field, and the lockeroom, before I say this team is really different.

I loved it when Harry cried, "Cubs Win, Cubs Win!"

by Ken Hubbs on Sep 1, 2007 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trachsel asked to be traded back to the Cubs...
the REAL reason the trade was made was because Trachsel asked to be traded to the Cubs, rumors are he was upset that he didn't make Al's top 100 Cubs of all-time.  In a statement Trachsel stated, "Rick Wilkins?  Come on now, Al.  I MADE Rick Wilkins."

So, I was doing a little research on Trachsel's time with the Cubs.  I didn't realize he was fourth in voting for NL Rookie of the Year in 1994, finishing behind Raul Mondesi, the indelible John Hudek and Ryan Klesko.  But, what I really that was funny was the AL RoY voting that year... Manny Ramirez finished 2nd to BOB HAMELIN!  How great is that?  Ah, 1994...
 

by eamuscatuli1881 on Sep 1, 2007 6:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What's scary
What's scary is the Cubs farm system was sooo bad in the 90s Steve is the only product of our system between Mark Grace and Kerry Wood to win at least 50 or hit at least 50 homeruns for us and only one to make an all star team.
I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 1, 2007 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lets go HAWKS
Lets go HAWKS

Lets go HAWKS

Lets go HAWKS

by cozmotaylor on Sep 1, 2007 8:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OK. Can we not suck today please...
Jeez.

It's the friggin Astros for crying outloud.

I'd somehow feel so much better if we were playing the Yankees, RedSox, and Indians foer the remainder of the year, instead of our crappy division foes like Houston, Pittsburgh, and Cinci... who all seem to kick our a55.  

1-RUN GAMES = 17-19 | EXTRA INNINGS = 2-7 | HOME = 35-32 | updated on 8/31

by SackMan on Sep 1, 2007 8:40 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Trachsel and Wood
Let's hope Steve joins a select club this season. That of Cubs to be on 2 playoff teams.

And have Kerry start a third one.  Cubs who have been on 3.

And for Neal Cotts to join a club that has extremely few members and none since 1908, players who have been on world series winning teams on both sides of town.  Heck I'm not sure if there are any in that club.

Outside Chicago people know Trax for giving up Mac's 62nd homerun.  We know him here for September 28, 1998.

I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Sep 1, 2007 12:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

MEMO TO DERREK
They are not pitching to you inside. They will not give you anything to hit. Work on your swing on pitches outside.

But it doesn't help when u get BS calls sometimes.

"Losing is my only fear"

by Unique on Sep 1, 2007 12:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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Cubs By The Numbers

Cubs By The Numbers is a history of the ballclub by uniform number, but the biographies help trace the history of our beloved team in a new way. For everyone who's a Cubs fan, anyone who ever wore the uniform is like family. Cubs By The Numbers reintroduces readers to some of their long-lost ancestors, even ones they think they already know.

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