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UPDATE [2007-8-7 17:12:32 by Al]: This just in! Will Ohman has been optioned to Iowa and Sean Gallagher recalled. All I can say is, wow.

The Yahoo preview of tonight's game focuses on the wrong thing:

The Chicago Cubs struggled offensively in their first game without injured outfielder Alfonso Soriano...

Chicago (58-53) didn't respond well in its first game without Soriano, managing only five hits while striking out 13 times in a 2-1, 10-inning loss.

That wasn't all missing Soriano -- no one hit last night, and it's not as if Soriano doesn't strike out, either; his 95 K's lead the team, and by a considerable margin (Derrek Lee is second with 79). Last night the Cubs ran into a pitcher who's been almost unhittable in his home park.

Other notes: the Cubs' 36-22 record since June 3 is still best in the NL; their +53 run differential still leads the NL; the Cubs have hit 236 doubles (including Ryan Theriot's two last night). That's 2nd in the NL and on pace to break the club record for doubles in a season, 340, set in 1931.

 Today's Starting Pitchers
Sean Marshall
 S. Marshall
Cubs		 vs. Woody Williams
 W. Williams
Astros
5-5 W-L 5-12
3.86 ERA 5.37
50 SO 69
23 BB 36
7 HR 25
vs. Hou -- vs. Cubs
Woody Williams is 3-9, 4.42 in 18 games (17 starts) lifetime vs. the Cubs. But what is freakish is his mark against them this year:
vs. Cubs: 2 G, 13 IP, 0-1, 2.77 vs. others: 22 G, 126 IP, 5-11, 5.64
Well now, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense, does it? There are four Cubs who usually eat Williams' pitches for breakfast, lunch, dinner and late-night snacks: Aramis Ramirez (13-for-43, 2 doubles, 2 HR, .302/.333/.488), Derrek Lee (10-for-31, 3 doubles, .323/.400/.419), Cliff Floyd (10-for-27, 2 HR, .370/.393/.630), and, most shockingly, Jason Kendall (18-for-35, 2 doubles, a HR, .514/.553/.657).

So let's go and light up the Juice Box tonight. Williams may be late arriving, as he has to save some puppies, feed some hungry Houstonians at a nearby homeless shelter, take tickets at one of the turnstiles, and cut the ballpark grass into one of those wacky patterns before his start.

Sean Marshall got pounded his last time out, raising his ERA from 3.10 to 3.86. However, on the road this year he's 3-1, 2.60, and has a 3.00 ERA in 3 lifetime starts vs. Houston (although a 1-2 record). Chris Burke hits him hard (5-for-7 lifetime with a HR).

Another cable-only extravaganza is also available at the Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2006 version)

MLB.com Gameday for the Brewers/Rockies game

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Lineups Yet, AL?
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 7, 2007 4:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Not yet.
Either I, or someone else, will certainly post them when they're available.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 7, 2007 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lets take...
some pitches tonight and try to work the count - instead of whaling at every pitch.

Lets get back to the basics.

by HIGGY on Aug 7, 2007 4:29 PM CDT reply actions  

That would be a nice change
but it looks like they are going through one of those periods where they may be a little mentally fried, and everybody is trying to do too much.

I don't know what will happen tonight, but I have a feeling this is going to be a difficult road trip for the Cubs and Brewers both.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Aug 7, 2007 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Totally agree...
Probably mentally AND physically fried - long games and travel in the wee hours...

I am expecting a much better show tonight.

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 7, 2007 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Woody Williams' actually visited
my church when I was a kid.  His World Series ring from Toronto has been on my finger.  He told me then that he likes rescue baby seals from the terrors of the great white shark with no protective gear on.  

by jshipp on Aug 7, 2007 4:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Soriano
if cubs skid and fans starting pointing to sorianos injury...here is what I have to say:

OBP .336
BB 24
K 95
RBI 42
SB 18, CS 5
HR 18 - 14 of which were solo shots
RISP .268
late innings of close games .205

So exactly which of these stats are going to be missed?...the 4 to 1 strikout to walk ratio?  the solo home runs early in games? the whopping 42 RBI?  the 18/23 SB as a lead off hitter?

but ask many people and they will tell you he hits 300 w/ 18 HRs...what a joke.  

$10 mil as a #5 hitter...maybe. $17mil in the lead off spot...don't want.

If the org continues to baby him because he "feels confortable leading off" it will be a long 8 years I am afraid.

That said, the good news is that as long as the cubs stay mentally tough, the injury should have little impact (as sad as that may be for $17mil)

Also in 29 AB's leading off Theriot has an OBP of .438 vs. Soriano's .343 (albeit in  171 ABs)

This ump is an ass pUMP!!! - Joe

by cubsirishkillme on Aug 7, 2007 4:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Leading Off
I agree that he shouldn't be leading off and I hope that an adjustment will be made once he comes back but I will miss Soriano's presence.

I'm not down on him.  He is what he is and at this point he's worthy of respect considering that the team climbed on his back when he got hot in June.

He'll be hot again in the future too.  However, now is the time for the team to pick him up.  Let's go Cubs and let's get it done tonight!

There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Aug 7, 2007 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh
Did you ever think he might add a certain confidence to the team?

His .297 average is nothing to scoff at either, same with his 74 runs.  Those will be missed.

by wjblol on Aug 7, 2007 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah
Funny how the poster failed to mention those.  You would think it's intentional or something...

by IllinoisCubs on Aug 7, 2007 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Plus...
he makes the pitchers throw differently not only at him but also at those behind hin in the lineup.

Besides, you really think that those subbing for him (Fontenot, so far) have better numbers? Yes, Soriano shouldn't have been leading off but to say that there's nothing missing with his absence is being in denial.

by Fraggin Judge on Aug 7, 2007 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know the term "must win"...
...is often debated here. So let's just say the Cubs really NEED to win this game and tomorrow's as well.

Failing to do so would mean their second series loss in a row. And you'd have to look all the way back to the 7/27-7/29 series against the Reds for a series win.

Here's to hoping Marshall goes deep into the game and the offense hits a few deep into the rows of seats beyond the outfield walls. It's time for the team to get back into the habit of winning.

Go Cubs!

Brew Crew: We have arrived -- now step aside.

by daver on Aug 7, 2007 4:59 PM CDT reply actions  

"all the way back"
7/27-7/29 is not THAT long ago... :) BUT I agree. Cubs really do need to win tonight. If not to stay alive in the pennant race but at least to be able to show that they can put up wins with a guiy not named Ted or Carlso pitching.

by Willgly on Aug 7, 2007 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Woody Williams has thrown two no-hitters
in the same game.  I also heard that in one game he let the first two batters of every inning get on base just to get 9 triple plays in one game.
We will see some beautiful things come the fall.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Aug 7, 2007 4:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Since that link...
... is an Insider article, could you -- WITHOUT copying/pasting the entire article -- summarize it here for those who don't have Insider?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 7, 2007 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Neyer summarized
Losing Soriano for the month will cost the Cubs between one to two games, depending on the replacements.

Patterson and Murton might make a nice platoon to mitigate the loss, as long as Piniella/Hendry don't panic the first time one of them goes 0 for 3.

by Josh Timmers on Aug 7, 2007 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh
And a snarky comment about how the Cubs still have a great chance as long as Claudio Vargas is a Brewer.

by Josh Timmers on Aug 7, 2007 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

More faulty logic.
Neyer makes the argument based solely on statistics and concludes that since Soriano will be out only a month he'll "only" cost the Cubs two games.

Well, first of all, in a close race 2 games may be the difference between going to the playoffs or watching them on TV.

Second, Soriano's injury is in the leg that gives power to his swing. He also needs to be healthy to run the bases and patrol the outfield.It's to be expected that when Soriano returns that leg will be tendered. It takes rest for more than a month to be 100% healthy after a muscle tear although  he will be able to play. Neyer didn't take into account the effect of that injury on Soriano's power and speed once he comes back. How many games should I toss because of that?

Again, people, this is serious. I see everyone underestimating this thing and meanwhile we're already drifting away in the Wild Card race. We're still in the division race because Milwaukee and St. Louis are playing poorly too. After all, this is the Comedy Central.

But even in that mediocre division, I'm afraid that if Hendry doesn't acquire some hitter soon (and that means before Monday) our hopes may be over due to a torn quad.

by Fraggin Judge on Aug 7, 2007 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

The offense will bounce back
in todays game. I have a feeling we will see an 8 run game tonight.

Theriot ss
Fontenot 2b
Lee 1b
Ramirez 3b
Floyd lf
Derosa rf
Jones cf
Kendall c
Marshall p

That lineup should do better than last night. I would prob switch Kendall and Fontenot since Kendall kills Williams.

That lineup isnt official, just something I threw out there.

We will see some beautiful things come the fall.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Aug 7, 2007 5:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Where did you get that lineup?
I don't see it posted anywhere.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 7, 2007 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry Al
That is what I came up with.  The lineup isnt put yet or I havent seen it.
We will see some beautiful things come the fall.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Aug 7, 2007 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry --
I didn't see the last line of your post. But that lineup would be pretty good.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 7, 2007 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

* isnt OUT yet
I suck
We will see some beautiful things come the fall.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Aug 7, 2007 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

NOT AN OFFICIAL LINEUP
here's the lineup i'm hoping for.

Theriot SS
EPatt LF
DLee 1B
Aram 3B
DeRosa RF
JJ CF
Kendall C
Fontenot 2B
Marshall P

my theory since we can't hit homeruns go for speed/defense

Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 7, 2007 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

OHman is GONE!
Gallagher up to replace his spot in the bullpen.
I am suprised they are going with just one LH in the pen (Eyre!!).

by GoCubsGo! on Aug 7, 2007 5:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Interesting
but I am not so sure Gallagher is not here to get a spot start or two as well.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Aug 7, 2007 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder
I wonder if Hill or Marshall might go to the pen to put Gallagher in the rot?
I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by puckishcubsfan on Aug 7, 2007 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

your goal
I'm assuming is to get rid of a lefty, but how could marquis be left in the rotation while either marshall or hill are demoted, marquis has really bit it for a long time now
You may run like mays but you hit like $#!%

by cubsirishkillme on Aug 7, 2007 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think
My thing is maybe we need them in the pen because they are lefties.

Remember in 1998 when Terry Mulholland was moved to the pen because Bob Patterson got hurt?

It would be nice to Gallgher pitched the rest of the season like the guy they brought up to put in the rotation did that year.

I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by puckishcubsfan on Aug 7, 2007 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ding, dong...
...the witch is dead!
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather have Ohman than Eyre....
...that simple...Ohman had decent June and July.  He's okay against LHB.  I like the guy brought up but send Eyre down instead.

by DudeVf11 on Aug 7, 2007 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ohman out, Gallagher in
I just got a text message from MLB.com that Ohman was sent to Iowa and Sean Gallagher was called up.

by Willgly on Aug 7, 2007 5:12 PM CDT reply actions  

i need that!
how do i sign up for those?

is there a cost?

"Winning is the greatest marketing idea of all time." --Cubs President John McDonough

by cubbieblue on Aug 7, 2007 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Press release link posted on the front page.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 7, 2007 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Options
I didn't know Ohman had options left.

by GoCubsGo! on Aug 7, 2007 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eyre has options...
...but has acrued enough service time to where he must clear waivers before he can be sent to AAA.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ohman attitude?
anyone know how it is that Eyre weathered a few brutal months while Ohman got shipped out so fast?

Eyre's better past performance?
Eyre's lack of options?
Eyre vs. Ohman attitude?

This ump is an ass pUMP!!! - Joe

by cubsirishkillme on Aug 7, 2007 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably a little of all three of those.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 7, 2007 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gallagher?
Called up Ohman sent down somewhat of a surprise they need a good lefty in bullpen Eyre may not have it for clutch situations...Lou P. likes those righties guess we'll see soon...Gallagher might get a spot start, no?

by writerinwrigley on Aug 7, 2007 5:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Willi Mo Pena clears waivers...
do we dare make that trade?
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 7, 2007 5:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Dare?
Again, as I have posted in another thread: why do you even want him? He's having a brutally bad year. Plus he has a reputation as a bit of a head case.

No thanks.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 7, 2007 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think people
are hoping he can be the guy he was last year, rather than what he's been this year. He had a nice season last year, check his stats.

Also, does anyone else think MLB changed the ball this off-season? Or is the low home run total all the drug policy?

by jazzypete on Aug 7, 2007 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Response
"why do you even want him?" Need Home Runs. Need runs. Fast.

If that's not the best option out there (and you're probably right on that, Al) then we need to get that hitter. The question is, Is Hendry willing and able to pay the price?

by Fraggin Judge on Aug 7, 2007 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

well without Soriano
cubs will be missing some K's in the lineup
This ump is an ass pUMP!!! - Joe

by cubsirishkillme on Aug 7, 2007 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, good point...
;-)
Stats, stats, stats - enough with the stats already!!!

by lostinthevines on Aug 7, 2007 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I beleive they sent ohman down for his own good
Lou looked like he could do some serious bodily harm to ohman the other night
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 7, 2007 5:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed
That walk to the mound the other night IMO said "pack your bags".
"We have the rabbit's foot now" -Z

by TheRamZamDLEE on Aug 7, 2007 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Marshall
has been strugling to go deep in games for awhile, so maybe they are worried he won't last tonight.

by jazzypete on Aug 7, 2007 5:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Woody Williams
We should be able to like this guy up......
Bulls 402 ta zip... but Micheal Jordan will be held to under 200 points. - Todd O'Connor

by Lou In Blue on Aug 7, 2007 5:34 PM CDT reply actions  

That's what we always say, but...
Stats, stats, stats - enough with the stats already!!!

by lostinthevines on Aug 7, 2007 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

A great fundraising idea
Cubs Care should auction the rights to tell a player he's being sent to Iowa to fans.

I bet Ohman would have fetched $1 million, easy.

by lancaster99 on Aug 7, 2007 5:35 PM CDT reply actions  

LMAO
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 7, 2007 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd bid
I'd make a bid.

My best call I got to do on a job was working for a neuropathologist, she did brain autopsies once a week.  She had me call to see if there were any to do.

So I got to call someone once a week and ask "Do you have any brains?"

The person was a Cardinals fan so it was a legitimate question.  

I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by puckishcubsfan on Aug 7, 2007 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was mentioned that someone in the minors
might got a couple of spot starts.  Gallagher can also be used in true long relief in case a starter's gone after a couple of innings.  Right now they just burn up the whole pen when that happens.  

Ohman as a pure one batter LOOGY might have been fine.  His confidence is probably shot right now though.  Lou didn't exactly use him in  the smartest way every time out, that's for sure.

by TR on Aug 7, 2007 5:38 PM CDT reply actions  

interesting stat
Pie tied PCL record w/ 11 Put outs this seasion
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 7, 2007 5:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm guessing you mean...
... 11 assists, right?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 7, 2007 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

no actually, I think he meant he tied the record
for put-outs in one game (although I was a little confused at first too).  There is an article about it on desmoinesregister.com.  

by lji001 on Aug 7, 2007 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

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.... or lose one.

If the Cubs fail to hit a HR, I will buy a BCB t-shirt for the first poster to take me up on the offer.

Of course, if the Cubs hit a HR, the poster owes me one.

Takers?

PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 5:56 PM CDT reply actions  

sure..
ill take that on ol woodrow.
One of Us!One Of Us!

by HerrProf on Aug 7, 2007 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just donate to the charity
and we'll call it even
One of Us!One Of Us!

by HerrProf on Aug 8, 2007 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

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by HerrProf on Aug 8, 2007 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Gallagher's here to make
a couple spot starts, who gets skipped? Marquis, Marshall, or Hill?
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 6:04 PM CDT reply actions  

marquis
/no brainer
You may run like mays but you hit like $#!%

by cubsirishkillme on Aug 7, 2007 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is just a guess, but...
...whichever of them doesn't catch the frakking hint and pitch their asses off right the hell now.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

As I posted above
As I posted above I wonder if Hill or Marshall might get moved to the pen?
I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by puckishcubsfan on Aug 7, 2007 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lineups are
here

ours:
Theriot SS
Fontenot 2B
Lee 1B
Floyd RF
Derosa 3B
Jones CF
Kendall C
Patterson LF
Marshall P

"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 6:07 PM CDT reply actions  

I like it.
One of these days I'd like to see Lou try Kendall in the 2 spot.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 7, 2007 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me, too.
Odd that Rammy's sitting having hit Williams so well, but his swing looked bad last night, so maybe Lou's giving him a little time-out.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aram
I like Aram, his walk off against the brew crew earlier this year was probably the sweetest clutch hit of the season... but what's with all the sitting?  I know he has a "leg injury" which has apperently been bothering him for the last 2 YEARS, but hes not exactly 50 years old.  With soarino out we could use the extra power bat.  I am bummed this guy needs to sit more than cliff floyd.  

by OCcubsnation on Aug 7, 2007 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

His knee
is only at about 80%, so while the sitting is precautionary, it's necessary if we want to have Rammy around for the duration of the year. It's not the quad problems he's has the past couple of years, but a pretty bad knee sprain he got in Milwaukee.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought
someone posted last night that it looked like he was favoring his knee in the game last night. Maybe just resting the knee is a good idea.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 7, 2007 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Incidentally...
Aramis has only hit one dinger since that walk-off.

by John Q Freejazz on Aug 7, 2007 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

A-Ram...
it looked to me like he had a bit of trouble last night after he ran out a grounder early in the game (he looked like he pulled up a bit right after he ran by first).  The obnoxious Astros announcers were always talking to themselves anyway and the lousy FSN/Houston cameras already cut away to the crowd, but I am just telling you what I saw.

So that may be the reason for him sitting tonight.  Nothing serious but just resting the knee.  It may also explain feeble swings the rest of the night.

That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 7, 2007 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also...
... I presume Ramirez is just getting a day off so he can play the rest of the road trip.

Too bad it's vs. a pitcher that he's hit hard.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Aug 7, 2007 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

So many of those pitcher/batter splits...
...are the relics of small sample sizes; the rest of them are often just about as meaningless. (Bonds versus Maddux exemplifies this well; they're both exceedingly different players now than they were in their primes, and so much of their past history isn't as relevant as the media hypes it up to be.)

Aramis Ramirez hits everybody hard, given enough at-bats to work out sample sizes, I would wager. He's good. And Woody Williams? He's... well, I won't say it. But you get the idea.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of small statistical samples sizes...
Zambrano is 1.250 lifetime OPS vs. Williams :)
'07 Postseason: Bears, Bulls... Cubs?

by stelmodad on Aug 7, 2007 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know if that's sample size...
...so much as its a reflection of Williams' talent level and Zambrano's absolute ownership of Minute Maid Park. Seriously, if we had the DH in the NL I would make Zambrano the DH every time we went to Minute Maid.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just have to point this out...
Tonight's lineup - 31 HRs

A-Rod - 36 HRs

I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Aug 7, 2007 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

R, L, R, L, R, L, R, L, L
fun lineup.
'07 Postseason: Bears, Bulls... Cubs?

by stelmodad on Aug 7, 2007 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

and
theirs:

Biggio 2B
Loretta 1B
Berkman RF
Lee LF
Wiggington 3B
Lane CF
Bruntlett SS
Ausmus C
Williams P

"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 6:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow indeed.
I guess Pinella and Hendry would only take so much.
'07 Postseason: Bears, Bulls... Cubs?

by stelmodad on Aug 7, 2007 6:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Where is Pence
did I miss some sort of injury?
We will see some beautiful things come the fall.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Aug 7, 2007 6:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep.
Broke a bone in his wrist a few weeks ago. DL'd for while.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep
Chipped a bone in his wrist July 22.

by John Q Freejazz on Aug 7, 2007 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

DEAR WILL
DON'T let the door hit you on the way out!

SEE YA!!!!!

YESSSSSSSSS!

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 7, 2007 6:16 PM CDT reply actions  

HILL run support
haven't seen this posted (may have missed it)  but has anyone pointed out that Hills run support is like 2nd worst in the NL?
You may run like mays but you hit like $#!%

by cubsirishkillme on Aug 7, 2007 6:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Ohman
I kind of figured he'd win the clinching game of the world series for the Cubs.

Wouldn't it be perfect that although it is spelled differently the Cubs world series winning pitcher was named Omen?

I just want the Cubs to top the Bears NFC Title Game as my highlight of the year.

by puckishcubsfan on Aug 7, 2007 6:21 PM CDT reply actions  

I hope Ohman
gets himself turned around at Iowa. I'm sure he had to be very frustrated with himself too. IIRC Gallagher pitched well when he was here last.

Hope you get a win tonight Sean. Go get em.

GO CUBS!!!

I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 7, 2007 6:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Will Ohman is what I like to think of...
...as an "AL reliever," the pitching equivelent of the DH. A simpler, more common way of looking at him is as a traditionally LOOGY -- note the key word in LOOGY is "one out." Lou has been trying to use him as a middle reliever part out of necessity and part out of stubbornness. It's sorta the inverse of when Dusty kept trying to use Remlinger as a LOOGY when he was really a middle reliever.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Remember Hawk?
LaTroy Hawkins.  Thats who omen reminded me of the other night.  At least with the walks, not so much serving up waste high home run balls every 3rd pitch.

by OCcubsnation on Aug 7, 2007 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ohman is a classic LOOGY.
He gets out lefties. That's pretty much all there is to him. Now, admittedly I'm not the biggest fan of the world of bullpen specialization, but it's the world we generally live in.

It's like trying to use a hammer to drive screws. Once, twice, in a pinch, you can be forgiven. But if you don't eventually go out and get a screwdriver... well, it's not the hammer's fault that you're ruining the boards.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

audio link
http://channelsurfing.net/listen-cubs.html
is working tonight
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 7, 2007 6:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Left Field - by the numbers...
Thought this was interesting - from today's Cincinnati Enquirer:  

WAY OUT IN LEFT FIELD
Here's a look at the left fielders in the NL Central by stats and salary:

Name            Club            Avg.     HR    RBI    OBP    Slug.     OPS     Salary
Adam Dunn     Reds    .262     30     73    .363     .551     .918     $10.5M
Alfonso Soriano Cubs    .297     18     42    .336     .511     .848     $10M
Carlos Lee           Astros    .298     23     90    .353     .531     .883     $11.5M
Geoff Jenkins     Brewers    .269     14     45    .341     .483     .824     $7.3M
Jason Bay          Pirates    .260     17     71    .335     .440     .775     $3.5M
Chris Duncan     Cards    .285     20     59    .376     .540     .920     $400K

If players had standings like teams, I'd say Soriano is tied for 4th with Bay, just ahead of Jenkins

by ballhawk on Aug 7, 2007 6:34 PM CDT reply actions  

LFs
Assuming you are just factoring in the baseball and not the money, then I think Soriano is right at the top of that list.  Maybe #2 behind Lee.  He is superior defensively to pretty much all of 'em.  (I don't know what kind of D Jason Bay plays.)  Meanwhile, his O is not that far behind.

Duncan is not playing against lefties, lowering his worth.  Dunn is atrocious defensively, and slow on the base paths.  I'd go Lee, Soriano, Dunn, Jenkins, Duncan, Bay.

by californiachicagoan on Aug 7, 2007 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's a list...
...of NL left fielders according to BIS's zone rating. (Most of you would probably be bored to tears or outright hostile to an explanation of the difference between these and the ZR published by ESPN from Stats Inc., so I won't go into it.)
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Duncan
Wow.  Looks like Duncan should be headed to the AL sooner than later to DH.  Of course, the fact that he can't seem to hit lefties makes him a part time DH.  

by californiachicagoan on Aug 7, 2007 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Duncan is a butcher...
...even for a left fielder; the Cardinals have a legacy of great defense, but this isn't that Cardinals team by a longshot.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gallagher
Piniella has talked twice in the last week about wanting a long man in the bullpen, and specifically mentioning Gallagher as the perfect man for the job.

While Ohman's recent performance didn't help any, I'm betting this was as much Lou wanting Gallagher as needing to get rid of Ohman.

by Josh Timmers on Aug 7, 2007 6:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Sorry
I didn't see your post -- mine came just after yours.  Anyway, the Ohman saga is pretty lame.

by zevkalman on Aug 7, 2007 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not a fan of cornefields
Iowa ain't that bad!  Umm, well...I guess if I could fake an injury and live in Chicago or go livein Iowa, I might feel a twinge as well.  To be fair, it is entirely possible that he has had some soreness or a twinge that he has been playing thru.  After all, he does admit that he was the weak link in the 'pen.  That speaks of a high character guy.

by californiachicagoan on Aug 7, 2007 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Living in Iowa....
I can tell you it's really not that bad, and there's a heck of a lot more to the state than cornfields.

But yeah, I'd do a lot of things to avoid living in Des Moines, all things considered.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

What pisses me off
is that many times pitchers do badly and suddenly they have an "ailment".  Now Ohman claims that he his shoulder has been "barking" and he needs to get medical attention.  WTF?  What's up with that?  A guy with a 9.0 ERA didn't bother to tell anyone his shoulder has been "barking" until AFTER he is demoted?

Story:

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2007/08/ohman-in-limbo.html

by zevkalman on Aug 7, 2007 6:48 PM CDT reply actions  

In honor of Bonds going for #756,
I thought I would provide this link:

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003621797

In the article, the writer, who is a bio-mechanical expert talks about the fact that the elbow protection that Bonds wears is really a hinged device that gives him a huge advantage beyond the "protection" that he is allowed to have under the rules of baseball.  Interesting reading.

That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 7, 2007 6:48 PM CDT reply actions  

a lead off walk?
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 7, 2007 7:07 PM CDT reply actions  

WooHoo!
Keep it up guys!
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 7, 2007 7:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Daily Double
Gettin' it started.  Go Lee.  Base knock here.
There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Aug 7, 2007 7:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Ohman's demotion
is another byproduct of the Piniella legacy:  you don't produce, you're out on your a**.  Note that Ohman has been around almost longer than anyone else on the team.  Dusty sure wouldn't have done that 'cause Dusty was a nice guy :-).  Sends a message to all the others in the bullpen what fate awaits them if they pitch so bad...wow!

by zevkalman on Aug 7, 2007 7:09 PM CDT reply actions  

All Bases Clogged!
Full of Cubs.  No Outs in the first.
There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Aug 7, 2007 7:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Bases loaded.
PLEASE someone bring them home!!
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 7, 2007 7:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Bueno
RBI Walk.  1-0 Cubs.
There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Aug 7, 2007 7:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Yessss
We are on the board, lets keep the smart, patient ABs going.
We will see some beautiful things come the fall.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Aug 7, 2007 7:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Expectations
I want a 4 run first.  C'mon Cubbies!

by californiachicagoan on Aug 7, 2007 7:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I hate being right.
I think he hit that pitch once 5 years ago and has been trying to do it again ever since.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 7, 2007 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Grr
This should be a 3 run inning at the minimum.  We can't let Woody off the hook here.  Damn.
There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Aug 7, 2007 7:18 PM CDT reply actions  

You'd Think?
I do not understand not taking 1 and maybe even 2 pitches when a pitcher is on the ropes like that.  Geez.
There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Aug 7, 2007 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

::sigh::
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 7, 2007 7:22 PM CDT reply actions  

UGH!!!
"We have the rabbit's foot now" -Z

by TheRamZamDLEE on Aug 7, 2007 7:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Crap, no one out and the bases loaded and nothing
Except for the walk forcing in a run.  We needed to get some early runs.

by Saratoga on Aug 7, 2007 7:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Jones' at-bat
was the killer. The way Williams was pitching, you cannot swing at the first pitch.

At least everybody else made him work.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 7:22 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought you're
his biggest fan. No?
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 7, 2007 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry.
Must be someone else.
It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 7, 2007 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

that was pathetic how the hell can hendry
say that he feels confident with this lineup, its terrible, when your only getting one run with bases loaded 0 out and coming by a bases loaded walk with the heart of your order than something is wrong, my god that was terrible
Bring back the damn cowbell!

by CubsBall2202 on Aug 7, 2007 7:23 PM CDT reply actions  

He is saddled with JJ. For better or worse.
It is well known the Cubs tried to rid themselves of him.  Frankly, Pagan - other than his arm - isn't much of an upgrade in CF.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 7, 2007 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

The mark of a slumping team...
Bases loaded and no outs...

ONE GODDAMN RUN.

A very, very disappointing sign.

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 7, 2007 7:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Are you kidding me ?!?!
That whole inning was a dissapointment, we had bases loaded 0 out with 4-5-6 coming up and we managed one run on a bases loaded, that my friend is pathetic
Bring back the damn cowbell!

by CubsBall2202 on Aug 7, 2007 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

OH MY GOD WE'RE WINNING! PANIC NOW!
How can a team of major-league ballplayers stake their pitcher to a small lead to start the game? We're clearly doomed.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

if were within 4 games at months end
i will be amazed
Bring back the damn cowbell!

by CubsBall2202 on Aug 7, 2007 7:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Jesus...
you would think we were down 10 - 0.
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

JJ Is Garbage
1 more year of this crap.  Lovely.  Kendall did all he could do and with less than 2 outs, Kendall's AB would have netted a run.  Work the frickin' count, JJ, you schmuck.
There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Aug 7, 2007 7:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Frak!
What a missed opportunity.  Williams settled down, and we couldn't convert on 3 straight chances.  Already reminds me of last night, I thought we missed out on 3 opportunites in the first 4 innings to do some damage.  Well, we should be getting to their bullpen early in this one.

by californiachicagoan on Aug 7, 2007 7:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Just to clarify
I'm prety sure we have had bases loaded none out through out the year and we have seen this team come away with nothing time after time.   At the Very Least, we got one run, on three walks, and made there starting pitcher work, thats an improvment, no?

by INWes44 on Aug 7, 2007 7:27 PM CDT reply actions  

The motto for
some people at BCB is: "YAY CUBBIES" "Don't Worry! We'll Get 'Em Tomorrow!"

To each his own, Bruce.

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 7, 2007 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I want to win as much as anybody
after being a fan of this team for almost 40 years, through good and (mostly) bad.

But I'm also realistic.

I don't claim to be a cooler head than anybody else, but I try.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

"But I'm also realistic"
So are we. Is it a fantasy to expect our hitters to score more than a run with the bases loaded and no outs? When the opposing pitcher has been struggling is it too much to expect JJ to take a few pitches?

by cubsnlinux on Aug 7, 2007 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jacque Jones has been Jacque Jones...
...for years. Yeah, it's unreasonable. If you weren't a Cubs fan I could understand, but this shouldn't be suprising at this point.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was I not in agreement
with you about Jones? Didn't I say so?

Yes, it would have been nice to get more than one run. But they did get a run, and they made Williams work, which should play dividends later.

Enough.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

More than
I care to think about.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 7, 2007 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

AB
I only have the CBS Sportsline Gamecenter up, but that seemed like a nice at bat.

by californiachicagoan on Aug 7, 2007 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

E Patt
Welcome to The Show, nice to have you.
"We have the rabbit's foot now" -Z

by TheRamZamDLEE on Aug 7, 2007 7:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Swinging away
Looks like Williams has settle down after Cliffy.  He is throwing strikes.  I don't blame guys for taking hacks on good pitches.  EPatt hacked at the 2nd pitch he saw, too.  

by californiachicagoan on Aug 7, 2007 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

fellas....
what happened to the first inning patience?

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 7:33 PM CDT reply actions  

RISP
0-5 with 2 walks, 1 rbi.  One chance each for our 1-7 hitters.  Tough start, but at least we are getting opportunites.  Gotta convert some of 'em.

by californiachicagoan on Aug 7, 2007 7:37 PM CDT reply actions  

RISP thru 3
0-7 3 walks 1 rbi.  We are being given every opportunity, and we are blowing it so far.

by californiachicagoan on Aug 7, 2007 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yikes
I think we got a break there.
There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Aug 7, 2007 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well..
It's even more meaningful now that Lane went yard.
There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Aug 7, 2007 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

the more i see them
the more i think that theriot and fontenot should both be playing regularly in the 1-2 spot of the lineup.

by zevkalman on Aug 7, 2007 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

poop
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 7, 2007 7:39 PM CDT reply actions  

I wish the Cubs
could hit home runs like that.

by cubsbak on Aug 7, 2007 7:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Good Backup by Theriot
MMMM.... Thank goodness.  
There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Aug 7, 2007 7:43 PM CDT reply actions  

About time we get
someone else in a run down, feels kinda good.

Now if we could only hit one of those home runs.

"We have the rabbit's foot now" -Z

by TheRamZamDLEE on Aug 7, 2007 7:44 PM CDT reply actions  

So...How Does That Get Scored Then?
n/t
There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Aug 7, 2007 7:44 PM CDT reply actions  

We had the runner picked off
the throw form Lee got away form Fontenot, Theriot was johnny on the spot.
"We have the rabbit's foot now" -Z

by TheRamZamDLEE on Aug 7, 2007 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Marshall
pick off to Lee.  Runner gets jump.  Lee throws late and high...gets by Fonty...Theriot backing up...runner tries for third on the overthrow.  Gets in rundown.
There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Aug 7, 2007 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Santo...
Ron Santo's whining is almost unbearable. I know he was a good player and is "beloved", but can he please stop the petulant child act in the booth?
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 7:46 PM CDT reply actions  

You might want to duck.
You are about to get pelted with empties.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 7, 2007 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually agree with this.
Anytime I have to listen to the radio, I miss all the game because they're too busy chatting with each other or Ron is stuck saying "Uhhh...."

by Arbusto on Aug 7, 2007 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good Hustle by Floyd
But every time Floyd runs fast I get nervous.
Nice hit DeRosa!

by cubsnlinux on Aug 7, 2007 7:49 PM CDT reply actions  

I need updates. That rundown gave Gameday a
meltdown.  It is stuck on Lee's AB.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 7, 2007 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

1st and 2nd
1 out.  Jones up.  2-2 count.  Get ready for the low and away breaking stuff, Jones.
There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Aug 7, 2007 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sigh
2 down. Weak pop up to LF on a breaking ball - low and away.
There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Aug 7, 2007 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Runners on 1st & Second
Jones @ the plate 2-2, 1 out ...
"We have the rabbit's foot now" -Z

by TheRamZamDLEE on Aug 7, 2007 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah
I use Firefox and pop it into a new tab so I do have that button.

by Arbusto on Aug 7, 2007 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Use the F5 key on your keyboard.
That should refresh GameDay.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

are these Astros announcers serious?
Jones has a lot of power?

fellas... its 2007, check your stat sheets

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 7:52 PM CDT reply actions  

"floyd used to run really well"
alright they've officially been discredited

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 7:53 PM CDT reply actions  

He did
about 7 years ago.

by MiniAndretti on Aug 7, 2007 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

guess i didnt realize
he stole 20 twice

i didnt think a guy that average 10-12 sb's a year, REALLY ran well...

i would've said floyd used to have power a few years ago since that was his defining trait, but i guess the speed is accurate

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

well i dont think he was every defined by speed
but when he came up he was an above average guy for speed then the Expos turf basically tore up his legs

by INWes44 on Aug 7, 2007 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

why would they be discredited
they said Floyd used to run really well(true) but has been ravaged by injuries (true) so he's not longer a threat (true)

by INWes44 on Aug 7, 2007 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bases Clogged Full of Cubs!
2 outs for E Patt.
There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Aug 7, 2007 7:56 PM CDT reply actions  

He really
chomps that gum.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 7, 2007 7:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Now this
is getting a bit more problematic.

The clutch hitting the Cubs had a few weeks ago seems to be escaping them now.

Just keep plugging, I guess.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 7:59 PM CDT reply actions  

E=Patt & O-man
kid brother looks like C-Patt a little when he K's or swings and misses as he just did...ouch!!

See on Hardball Trib blog Ohman says his shoulder's been barking is going to see cub dr. before deciding what to do next...raises Q of why didn't go on DL instead of demotion.

by writerinwrigley on Aug 7, 2007 7:59 PM CDT reply actions  

I just had a flashback
of Corey flailing at a high fastball.  That looked awfully familiar.

by cubsbak on Aug 7, 2007 7:59 PM CDT reply actions  

OK, bad sign to leave
the bases loaded twice. Just sayin....

I did not see yesterday's game. Well, that's not correct. I arrived home to see the winning base hit. Turned on the game at that exact time.
Boy, do I hate when that happens.

But EPatt sure reminds me of CPatt. Have to judge the kid on his own merits, tho.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 7, 2007 8:01 PM CDT reply actions  

The best way to kill a Cub rally...
load the bases.  We have the worst BA with RISP when the bags are full.  No explanation.  They must press, and press and press.
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 7, 2007 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

What exactly is their BA
with the bases loaded? Is it really the worst in MLB?

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oakland's is worst...
...at .204. Not that .242 -- the Cubs mark -- is that good.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cliffy's the only guy
who put together a decent AB with the bags full tonight.

by cubsbak on Aug 7, 2007 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

True.
Seems we score like m-f gangbusters with two outs ... I've heard that's the hallmark of a good team, but it gets a tad bit stressful after the first 100 times!

Go Cubbies (for some reason, I'm blacked out, though I can't get this damn game on MY cable)!

--t.

"One of the worst writers on this board: !Neifi! didn't do it, honest."

by Littlerock Rynofan on Aug 7, 2007 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I Hope
that Sean can go 7+ tonight.
There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Aug 7, 2007 8:03 PM CDT reply actions  

36 pitches through 3 innings.
That's a good sign.
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

on the astros broadcast
they are showing a zoomed in shot of a girls breasts i'm confused

by INWes44 on Aug 7, 2007 8:04 PM CDT reply actions  

ahh i turned the sound off
so i could concentrate on some quick reading between batters and innings needless to say i was distracted

by INWes44 on Aug 7, 2007 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I assume they were referring
to the "lay" around her neck?  I heard nothing about hourly rates
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 7, 2007 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

You don't know
what breasts are? ;-)
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 7, 2007 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

after i wrote it
i came up with a bunch of quips too, like is that your normal reaction? so thats expected and appreciated haha

by INWes44 on Aug 7, 2007 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

TV cameras are attracted to breasts.
Haven't you seen the Bud Light Fan Cam before?
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

This Happens
On all Cubs broadcasts at home too.  I call it the booby cam.  My wife and I chuckle about this all the time.  The best thing that I've witnessed in person several times sitting in the upper deck box sections at Wrigley is that the camera guys purposely scope the bleachers for women during commercial breaks - zooming in when they find one that they like.

Then, once the action starts, it's back to normal coverage.

There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Aug 7, 2007 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

TheRiot is
johnny on the spot tonight.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 7, 2007 8:04 PM CDT reply actions  

pitch counts
75 to 36 after 3.  75 pitches.  In 3 innings.  And only 1 run scored.  

by californiachicagoan on Aug 7, 2007 8:06 PM CDT reply actions  

I really hate that AFLAC question
one of my roommates is a twins fan and he always tells me how close they were to taking Prior

by INWes44 on Aug 7, 2007 8:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow
We are able to load the bases on this chump, but can't bring them in. This is ungodly frustrating. Our 7,8,9 is abysmal. I would feel more comfortable if it was me, my roommate and his girlfriend.

by bloomerang on Aug 7, 2007 8:11 PM CDT reply actions  

If She Bats...
She might get on the "fan" cam.

by garyscottrules on Aug 7, 2007 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

What are you talking about?
First off, the 9 hitter is the pitcher.  Meanwhile, the 7 and 8 hitters are 1 for 3 with a walk.  That ain't bad.  Let's not let our frustrations make us start seeing things that aren't there.

by californiachicagoan on Aug 7, 2007 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it would be nice to let the rookie...
get his batting average below .500 before we start calling him terrible.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now THAT
was a great play. Heads up by Marshall

by bloomerang on Aug 7, 2007 8:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Ryan Howard is good.
HRs no. 31 and 32 tonight and 90+ RBIs with missing time on the DL.
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 8:14 PM CDT reply actions  

43 pitches through 4 for Marshall.
Good job.
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 8:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Someon said earlier that Hill
has the 2nd worst in the NL so I doubt Marshall is the leader

by INWes44 on Aug 7, 2007 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

DLEE
Is making Woody Williams look Johan-tacular

by bloomerang on Aug 7, 2007 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

D-Lee
he really hasn't been the same since the broke that wrist.  I dont think he struck out 2 times in one month, much less 2 times in one game back in 05.

by OCcubsnation on Aug 7, 2007 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

19k's in 14.1 innings
Disgusting, especially against Wandy and Woody.

by GoCubsGo! on Aug 7, 2007 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Soriano's Contribution
to the K movement the past 2 games:  zero
There's always next year.

by BJ Simpson on Aug 7, 2007 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

That might be the longest he's gone
all season without a K. :)
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

For cubs the foul home runs should count
Because without that there is no way I guess we are going to see another HR.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 7, 2007 8:21 PM CDT reply actions  

I really wish that Floyd would stop...
...putting on a Foul Ball Power Hitting Clinic and elevate the ball when it's actually fair and in play. Yeesh.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 8:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Clear sign
that he's trying to pull everything.  Keep pitching him on the outer edge, keep watching him ground out to 2nd or 1st.
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least this will be Woody's last inning
maybe we can have better luck against there long relief

by GoCubsGo! on Aug 7, 2007 8:21 PM CDT reply actions  

and the way JJ fouls those pitches to right behind
the plate, I think he should just swing in reverse and we might see some balls in play

by cubsnlinux on Aug 7, 2007 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

What a meatball
DeRo should've crushed that pitch.

by cubsbak on Aug 7, 2007 8:23 PM CDT reply actions  

It is just a really bad sign
to leave the bases loaded twice. It builds bad baseball karma. We are making Woody freakin Williams look unhittable. The best team in the NL in the 2nd half and we can't get a hit off off a guy who's ERA was about 10 at one point in the season. Truth is we aren't hitting, just getting walks.

by bloomerang on Aug 7, 2007 8:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Classic Williams
If he gets into trouble early -- and is able to bail out of it (he usually DOES NOT, at least over the past few years) he gets stronger.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 7, 2007 8:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Boy I doubt even Cy Young can win
tonight's game for us..unless he can hit one out of the park.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 7, 2007 8:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Wah wah wah
Let's see what happens the rest of the game, whaddya say, before the pity party gets into full gear.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 8:27 PM CDT reply actions  

can you please confirm
if you are watching cubs vs astros game, the one we are all watching tonight?

by cubsnlinux on Aug 7, 2007 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure am
Wish we could have capitalized on early chances, but big dogs bark late.

Don't get an ulcer.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup, we barked late last night too.
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess for you..
late = October 1??
Gosh how much you might be missing Dusty Baker and was that you who went all mad on Oct 1 for three straight seasons before this but couldn't remember what went wrong? Keep your over bloated optimism to yourself my friend.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 7, 2007 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your blood pressure must be
200/100.

Why don't you relax and realize the baseball season is not a sprint. It's a marathon.

I used to think this site had good, knowledgable baseball fans. Now I'm starting to wonder.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

why do you care?
I mean why do you even care to reply and get all personal?

by cubsnlinux on Aug 7, 2007 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could ask you the same thing
Why do you care what I think?

I just think it's silly to fly off the handle in a public forum the way some of you do. It's also embarrassing.

You show your ignorance sometimes by acting like every little thing that doesn't go your way is the end of the world.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

No one is flying off the handle
I guess its only you who is trying to act like a high school monitor. People who call what they see aren't bad. We all want the cubs to win and more so no one is un-necessarily ranting. If you can see dumb play and wish for miracles to turn everything around then more power to you.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 7, 2007 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Marshall is putting in some great work
Less K's than I would have thought, but he is getting some great 1st pitch strikes, and is getting ahead of most of the batters. Keep it up my lanky friend.

by bloomerang on Aug 7, 2007 8:28 PM CDT reply actions  

You really can't complain
about the way he and Hill have pitched the last two days. That's a good sign.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

And if they were losing 6-1
you'd complain about that, too.

Stifle yourself.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 7, 2007 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wins
Pitchers do not control how their offenses do.  Good pitching is good pitching.  "Yeah but if they aren't winning who cares?" is dumb.

by californiachicagoan on Aug 7, 2007 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

57 pitches through 5.
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 8:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Marshall is pitching real good tonight
The curve ball on the outside corner for the K was awesome. Nice to see very good outings from Hill and Marshall back to back.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 7, 2007 8:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Another nice inning
for Sean. Please Cubs let's get some runs this time, OK?
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 7, 2007 8:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Lovin' Marshall's evening
Half the pitch count I'm sure of ol' Woody who's moving on to the showers.

by Cajuncub on Aug 7, 2007 8:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Cubs just need an attitude changer...
maybe a close play that goes there way....a pitch inside, HBP, a Lou tirade etc.

Something to wake them up...

Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 7, 2007 8:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep..it looks like the Mets series
really derailed them and broken the rhythm.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 7, 2007 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why can't we know WW out of this game???
please...

I asked nice.

That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 7, 2007 8:34 PM CDT reply actions  

know=knock
got to put my glasses on :-)
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 7, 2007 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Feels like April again....
everybody swinging at everything....poor Marshall, he is doing a great job....we can't expect to win games 1-0....is this Gerald Perry's fault?

by razzpunk on Aug 7, 2007 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

When the Cubs were hitting
everything in sight, were you crediting Gerald Perry?

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoops....one question and the Sunshine Nazi...
is on my butt! I think Gerald Perry is great at teaching these guys how to SWING AWAY!

by razzpunk on Aug 7, 2007 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not sunshine,
just logic.

If GP is to blame when things are going bad, then it just goes to figure he should get credit when things go well. Right?

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Woody Frickin Williams
goes 6, after a 30+ pitch 1st!
"We have the rabbit's foot now" -Z

by TheRamZamDLEE on Aug 7, 2007 8:37 PM CDT reply actions  

The Pattersons share more than a last name
Also an uncontrollable urge to swing at garbage way upstairs. Wow. This is worse than if we were getting killed.

by bloomerang on Aug 7, 2007 8:37 PM CDT reply actions  

You have to give him a chance.
He's probably overly excited.  Wait until the steroids kick-in to make judgement.

by garyscottrules on Aug 7, 2007 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's better
Getting killed or losing nail biter?  I'd take the nail biter.

How about blowing someone out or winning a nail biter?  I'd take the nail biter there too.

by californiachicagoan on Aug 7, 2007 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

while I would usually agree with you...
I would LOVE to blow someone out right now!!!

by lji001 on Aug 7, 2007 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is ridiculous!
Why can't we hit these chumps.

by GoCubsGo! on Aug 7, 2007 8:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Ugh
Another high fastball.  Not a good sign.

by cubsbak on Aug 7, 2007 8:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow. I was just about to turn the game off.
God bless that awful stadium in Houstoon

by bloomerang on Aug 7, 2007 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Not a consistent hitting team!!
Even when Sori was in there we'd score 10 runs one day, 8, then 2...offense ranks in middle to bot of NL and w/o Sori we won't be getting better I fear...Lee having off year power-wise, C and RF not producing much at all.

We need another bat, big time. It's kinda obvious.

E=Patt looks a lot like Corey when he goes after high heat!! Damn!!

by writerinwrigley on Aug 7, 2007 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

The pity is that Lou will have to
pinch hit for Marshall even if (a big if) he gets through the next inning because of our pathetic offense.  How sad.
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 7, 2007 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Shit!
Now we are in trouble.
Here come the Astros bats awaken.

by GoCubsGo! on Aug 7, 2007 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Why doens't he drill Biggio
in the ribs to set up the double play?  Loretta is a great DP candidate?
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 7, 2007 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

too late for that idea :-(
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 7, 2007 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

It has become clear that
without 2 K's here, the game is over. I'm not saying the season is over but this game most likely is. If the bats couldn't hit against a worn out WW, why should they be able to against fresh relief?

UPDATE: Game Over.

by bloomerang on Aug 7, 2007 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

OK everybody, shut off the TVs
The game's over.

Bring down your stress levels a bit and put on "American Idol."

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

POOP
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 7, 2007 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

As crazy as it sounds
I feel like the club's mentality probably mirrors what the majority of its fans think.  That is to say, there was a huge stretch there that even when losing the majority of this site was still positive, and I bet that was pretty representative of the clubhouse/dugout.  But somewhere since the 9th inning of that Phillies game, its just been completely different, feels like everyone is expecting the worse and expecting the fall out.  Now i'm not saying if we changed our mindset things would change in the clubhouse, just that they follow the same ups and downs.  With this in mind, we're tied against a bad team and it feels like we are losing, even if we pull this out, people are still going to complain.  E-pat in three at bats went from promising to a bust, and i guess now we are losing, I dunno just venting. but this team is beatable even if we are trailing.

by INWes44 on Aug 7, 2007 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Typical
In typical Cubs fashion we'll prob. score 10 runs tomorrow.

by ak123 on Aug 7, 2007 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Can't expect Marshall to hold 'em to 1 run....
forever....I coulda predicted this would happen after the Cubs freaked out when they got bases loaded and no out....I smell a SLUMP!

by razzpunk on Aug 7, 2007 8:44 PM CDT reply actions  

No, we are slumping...
Not just on the verge.  We just arent getting the big hits.  Luckily we are hitting a low period right with the brewers so they wont pull away.

by Aram mvp on Aug 7, 2007 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

No way you can say Woody Williams pitched a
good game as I see it he threw a lot of crap up there and it is only the flail away Cubs bats that are to blame for this crap....Milwaukee up 1-0 in the 3rd....

by razzpunk on Aug 7, 2007 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

I have no confidence in this team
being able to come back from a one run deficit let alone more. Marshall needs to hold them here.

by GoCubsGo! on Aug 7, 2007 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Is that on Kendall...
...or Floyd?

Or can I just be annoyed at both of them?

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Neither. Just a smart heads up move
by Biggio.  Showing good last second instincts on a slide at home...taking notes JJ??
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 7, 2007 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't believe Woody Williams is going to get
the win after his first 4 innings. I just can't believe it. This looks like the team from April.

by bloomerang on Aug 7, 2007 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought
it was only the 6th inning. The game is over?
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 7, 2007 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heck, someone else posted
that the game was over after the FIRST inning.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

::shakes head::
I know. :-(
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 7, 2007 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Selig needed an excuse...
...to avoid Barry Bonds so he took time off to change some game rules. Shortening regulation was one of them.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Batten the hatches
This game was lost in the first and third innings.

Very unfortunate. All are slumping. Marshall has to be perfect, and now, he's not.

See ya tomorrow.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 7, 2007 8:49 PM CDT reply actions  

I hate Lance Berkman....he is a big pal of...
G.W. Bush and he always seems to get hits against us....who thought we could make up some ground against Houston....I did....guess I was way, way wrong.....3-1 seems like Mount Everest right now!

by razzpunk on Aug 7, 2007 8:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Had our chances
But we blew them.  Game's not over, but we coulda had this game in hand.  And I know it is probably blasphemous, but I think our problem was taking too many pitches in RISP situations.  A walk is as good as a hit when the bases are empty, but not when you have RISP.  We had 3 walks with RISP, and if they were hits we woulda had 4 or more runs, instead of 1.

Wow, after 3 who woulda thought that Williams would go deeper into the game than Marshall?

by californiachicagoan on Aug 7, 2007 8:51 PM CDT reply actions  

this is 2 of the last 3 nights
the floodgates have opened after playing the infield in

this inning should be over

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 8:55 PM CDT reply actions  

now the game is over....
all the good things in June and July seem to be evaporating really fast...
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 7, 2007 8:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Over the last week or so....imagine we play...
a little better and imagine the lead we might have had on Milwaukee....gnashing of teeth!!!!

by razzpunk on Aug 7, 2007 8:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Of course, maybe if
some of those games in April or May had gone the Cubs' way, you could say the same thing.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Cubs played well below their
projections, this has been discussed before.
They finally came back, close to where they should be.

But that was with a healthy club, for the most part.

I'm sorry, losing a player like Soriano hurts. To say losing a guy that you depended on to be a big stick hurts. Now, everybody's pressing.

This could be a road trip that pushes them 4-5 games back. If they can win tomorrow, that's impressive. (Especially against Oswalt. And, we'll see if Z can be the stopper they need.)  They are not coming back tonight -- anybody that follows the game knows miracles happen rarely. The Cubs came back a few times, certainly -- in June, and July -- but that team was sizzling.

Not now. Therefore, any comeback would be more than a miracle this evening. This is a slumping team, and one can hope a game is salvaged tomorrow, and they split in Colorado -- and the staff doesn't get ravaged up there.

If they return to Chicago only about 3 games back, consider that to be very fortunate.

I try to be as optimstic as possible, but this type of performance isn't going to win. One has to be realistic, too.  I (and others) have said earlier they cannot continue to play .700 ball. That was a great stretch, and cooling-off was inevitable. However, they MUST play .600 ball for the rest of thes season to win the division, or the Wild Card.

They have to. If the Cubs cannot right the ship on this road trip, they WILL have to play .700 ball to win. And that, my friends -- is going to be very tough.

The Brewers may be young, but they are talented.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 7, 2007 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously some of you guys are ridiculous
I hate the Red Sox, but in 2004 one place where i respect there fans way more than half the people who follow the cubs is they didnt give up after two bad games.  Living in Boston, I saw that there ridiculous slogan of Keep the Faith was actually carried out and that meant they had hope no matter how dismal the times including trailing 3-0 to the Yankees in the ALCS, and yet losing two games in August all of a sudden means not only we lost this series but apprently the season is over. Its no wonder so many prospects bust in our system becuase the second they dont perform some fans who cant see passed their first performance start to boo them. For once, look past today and yesterday, we jsut lost a big figure in our lineup so a little slump afterwards is expected honestly grow a pair and dont bitch if one or two things dont go our way.

by INWes44 on Aug 7, 2007 8:57 PM CDT reply actions  

go back to boston.
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 7, 2007 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah about that
unfortunately im already in boston, but thanks for the comment

by INWes44 on Aug 7, 2007 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is dangerously close
to Dusty Baker's line of thinking. Don't boo us, said Dusty...'we're trying.'

I will follow this team, no matter what. However, one does have to use a critical eye at times. And, I'm not meaning the usual "Jones sucks," "Dumpster," lines. That's crap, that juvenile. That's not fitting discussion. That's for teen-agers.

But right now, there's a collective slump going on, and a lot of it HAS to be that the Soriano injury is causing EVERYBODY to try to take manners into their own hands. The press is on, the collar's tight.

If this team is good -- if it's a winner -- the ship rights itself by the time they get home.

If this entire series goes down the tubes, and they lose 3 of 4 in Colorado -- it's going to be rough. That's all I'm saying.

I'm being realistic. I've been accused of drinking the 'kool-aid' many times, but it's out there to see. The good times of June and July have give way to the dog-days.

Again, if this team is good -- and it's played well on the road -- we'll know by the 12th, if this team still has a pulse. Fall back by 5 games -- wow. That could mean the Cardinals are back in it, just by playing .500 ball.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 7, 2007 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn
TheRiot is HOT tonight. Nice catch.
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 7, 2007 8:58 PM CDT reply actions  

on the bright side
i think the Marshall ERA regression is pretty much over with, up to 4.17 now

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 8:58 PM CDT reply actions  

yes, but thanks to whom?
Wood allowed 2 runners to score, and Lou allowed them to score by bringing the INF in twice.

by CubFaninNY on Aug 7, 2007 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Game-turning events can be at any time
Williams, as I said early struggles a lot at this, the end of career. Look at his record. However, if you let him off the hook early -- as the Cubs did, TWICE -- he gets stronger, and -- apparently -- gains confidence. Therefore, those two innings where thre Cubs could only punch home 1 run, with the bases loaded, mind you -- turned the game.

If the Cubs score in both of those innings, Williams is O-U-T. He's gone by the third, if the Cubs get those runs home.

This becomes a different game, Marshall has a lead, a cushion -- not every pitch has to be perfect. The kid now starts to think he MUST be perfect.

And, I also wish Kerry Wood's arm would fall off so he never comes to the mound -- ever again, and we can all get over this guy.

Enough punishment from this guy. I'm sorry his career is over. He's a millionaire. Go home and have fun for the rest of your life.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Aug 7, 2007 8:58 PM CDT reply actions  

I am just sad. Not mad. Sad.
Thought we had something going. Not to say they cant get out of this funk, but it is sad. They are pressing, and to be really honest, they arent good enough to press and get away with it. They are scrappers, who just cant pull it together now.

How many times do you see Mark DeRosa strike out swinging with the bases loaded and less than 2 outs. He has done that twice in two nights.

Just sad.

by louslovechild on Aug 7, 2007 8:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Too many stiffs
You cannot and will not win games with Jones, Murton, Patterson and Cedeno as reasonably regular guys in the lineup.  Not only are they not very good hitters, they are awful baseball players.  Patterson gets a pass because he's in his first week, but his high fastball approach is way too similar, small sample size and all, to his brother.  

And for the record, Wood is in the high 80's tonight.  He's mopup and nothing more.  Sorry to say it, but that's what he is.  The last guy in the pen.  

And lastly, Piniella's inexplicable decision to bring the infield in in a tie game...in the 6th inning...was atrocious.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. -- Lee Constantine Elia, 1983.

by krummy12 on Aug 7, 2007 8:59 PM CDT reply actions  

For as crappy as that inning was
kudos to Theriot for the sweet grab.
'07 Postseason: Bears, Bulls... Cubs?

by stelmodad on Aug 7, 2007 8:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey folks. We have 9 more outs.
That's why they play the game.  I'm sitting here and I am watching.  I hate Houston (the city).  I'm watching 'til the bitter end.
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 7, 2007 9:00 PM CDT reply actions  

For those wondering...
...that was a hard-hit ball by Matt Murton. Home run.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 9:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Congratulations
I'm certain you pointed out the strikeout in a key situation last night.  I hope he hits 25 more this year.  Go Matt.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. -- Lee Constantine Elia, 1983.

by krummy12 on Aug 7, 2007 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was at work last night, actually.
I hate road trips, because I work evenings and so I prefer day games.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
MATT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love this team!!!!!

by sue369 on Aug 7, 2007 9:01 PM CDT reply actions  

so whats
the difference between c-pat and e-pat?

by CZ38 on Aug 7, 2007 9:01 PM CDT reply actions  

age
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Credit to Murton
One night too late of course.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. -- Lee Constantine Elia, 1983.

by krummy12 on Aug 7, 2007 9:01 PM CDT reply actions  

ARam and Soriano out
takes two big sticks out for us.

btw, why is Aram out?

by CubFaninNY on Aug 7, 2007 9:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Matt Murton with a HR
Now you KNOW things are ass backwards.

by bloomerang on Aug 7, 2007 9:01 PM CDT reply actions  

A little love for the red head
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 7, 2007 9:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Well what about THAT?!
'07 Postseason: Bears, Bulls... Cubs?

by stelmodad on Aug 7, 2007 9:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Murton ....
... gets me a t-shirt.  Whoopee.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 9:02 PM CDT reply actions  

So all you sunshine nazis must also hate Santo...
because he gets very discouraged on the radio....but I see it more as wearing his heart on his sleeve....perhaps some of you really need to watch more ESPN then so you can enjoy the Red Sox highlights....

by razzpunk on Aug 7, 2007 9:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Santo is an embarrassment
God bless him, but he really has no business on the air.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know a lot...
of Cub fans.... Season ticket holders for years who bleed blue... who don't like listening to Santo.  Cub-fandom has nothing to do with wanting a more professional broadcast.  Nothing to do with what a brave man he is... he's just not a good color guy.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are an idiot.
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love Santo.
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

So do I
but NOT in the broadcast booth.

When Hughes and Stone were on the air together in the 2003 playoffs, it was excellent radio.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

what happened to you not posting any more?
sorry that post about Santo was the straw for me...  I think you complaining about complainers is far worse....  I am at home screaming at my t.v., it's kind of nice to know I have some company.

by lji001 on Aug 7, 2007 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, he doesn't
Objectively, he is awful on the air.

He's great in the Harry Caray way, but not as a broadcaster.

And I loved him when he was a player. I also love my mother. And I don't want to hear either of them on the air.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

To not appreciate Ron's passion
you are missing what being a Cub fan is all about. To not dream about how Ron will be in that booth the day the Cubs win the WS, you are not a true Cub fan.  We all dream of that day for Ron.

What makes listening to Ron so great is before Pat even describes the play, you hear the sound of the bat and then you hear Ron's excitement or grunt.  It makes the game that much more fun.

If you don't get that, you didn't live through '69 like so many of us did.  I have pity on you.

That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 7, 2007 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never said I didn't
I very much appreciate it. I dream of Ron seeing that day.

But I also dream of the day Cubs radio broadcasts will be more listenable than they are now.

And I did live through '69, so you don't need to give me a tutorial on that.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was born in 1981...
...and I'd like to know what the score is every so often. Is that a crime?
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's why there's Pat Hughes.
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Evidently
Hearing "Sheesh!" every few minutes is more important, and entertaining, than knowing the score.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?
Missing what being a Cub fan is all about? I dream of that day for RON?  Didn't live through 69? Not a true Cub fan?  Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

you hear the sound of the bat and then you hear Ron's excitement or grunt wow.

PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never saw anyone
write a blog in the style of Donald Rumsfeld.  Like him, I am not sure I understand your latest point, but the style is impressive nonetheless.

You can crave a more traditional baseball color person all you want.  Use mlb.com and listen to the other team's broadcast, is my suggestion.

That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 7, 2007 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well...
...this is certainly a fascinating back and forth.

I guess I'll respond by saying if you want a cheerleader, send a fax to Ronnie in the booth and tell him to put some water balloons in his sweater and wave pom-poms in between birthday greetings.

PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

We could use 8 Theriots right now
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 7, 2007 9:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Man D Lee is really off kilter at the plate
Time to make it happen with one out!!
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 7, 2007 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

that ptich was over the edge of the batter's
box on strike 3 to Fonty
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 7, 2007 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Lee's third strike was in
the strike zone
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 7, 2007 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

D-Lee...
is not seeing the ball at all.  He has taken the first two pitches right down Broadway his last to ABs.

by WartburgCub on Aug 7, 2007 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Just to clarify
i dont mind people getting upset, thats fine, I agree with that Ted Lilly comment that fans can expect a certain level of output but its the ones that take a bad couple of games or stretch and extrapolate it like were never going to win again. I mean someone said the Collapse of 2007, when we are a game out to a team that hasn't played .500 ball over the last month and a half, does that make any sense?

by INWes44 on Aug 7, 2007 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

you must be kiddding me
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 7, 2007 9:06 PM CDT reply actions  

god....
this is getting ridiculous

someone make CONTACT

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 9:06 PM CDT reply actions  

If the Cubs fail to make the playoffs...
One of the number one reasons:  Derrek Lee

by Rogue 52 on Aug 7, 2007 9:06 PM CDT reply actions  

hahaha
You have to be kidding me.  

Lee, post All Star Game:

.304/.417/.667
6 HR in 19 games.

Yea... the Cubs struggles over the last couple of weeks are his fault...

visit the mindful mission.

by big_lowitzki on Aug 7, 2007 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

OMG
D-Lee 3Ks, pathetic, of all the guys who should have stepped up Lee decides to step down and back

by CubsFan1987 on Aug 7, 2007 9:06 PM CDT reply actions  

lee
with 3 ks tonight LOL

by CZ38 on Aug 7, 2007 9:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Pardon my language
But what the FUCK. I have to watch this on gameday and he is watching 3rd strike??????

by louslovechild on Aug 7, 2007 9:06 PM CDT reply actions  

this ump has the Eric Gregg stikezone going
on the Cubs...
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 7, 2007 9:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Crazy
You're out of your mind.  The strike zone has been fine all night.  Lee has been horrid.  Fact of the matter is, this team goes as far as Aramis Ramirez carries them.  Period.  When they were going well, he was going well.  Now he's not and they're not.  
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. -- Lee Constantine Elia, 1983.

by krummy12 on Aug 7, 2007 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

forgive me if I thought several of those
were way outside...

If our team is reliant on a guy that has to sit every fourth day and hasnt hit a HR in 21 days, were in big trouble.

Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 7, 2007 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.. not a big problem with the K Zone tonight..
DLee deciding not to swing his bat tonight is one of the big problems. Did he even put a ball in play tonight??

by cubsnlinux on Aug 7, 2007 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Come on people....
You have to realize that a team like this with suspect talent, but a big collective heart will go through good and bad times.  We just have to hope they end the season on a good tear.

It's brutal watching them when they are playing like this, but we've seen what they can do.  

So hang in there with them.

by martyblue on Aug 7, 2007 9:07 PM CDT reply actions  

All he has to do is ground out
to the right side of the infield and Theriot scores...Maybe Lee needs to be moved down in the order.

by Kirbyk70 on Aug 7, 2007 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

and all...
fontenot needed to do was move him over

and all derosa needed to do with the bags loaded and 0 out is make contact

and all jj needed to do with the bags loaded and 1 out is hit a fly ball

its a team effort and everyone deserves blame for the lack of offense

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

One F'n Game...
You do realize that Derrek Lee has been excellent all year with RISP, right?

But one game means he should be moved down?

Unbelievable.

visit the mindful mission.

by big_lowitzki on Aug 7, 2007 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

2 free bases they got
and nothing.

this is April all over again.

by CubFaninNY on Aug 7, 2007 9:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Again we failed to get the runner from 3rd Home
with less than 2 outs... Looks like DLee's sole objective is to take a walk. Some darn contact could have brought that runner home.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 7, 2007 9:09 PM CDT reply actions  

2 games out
after tonight. this shit gets old.

by princefieldersdiet on Aug 7, 2007 9:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Really?
Is the Brewers-Rockies game over already? I thought it started at 8:05.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 7, 2007 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

1.5
Get your fact straight.

It is 1.5 games back, and the Brewers are currently losing in the 8th, 8-3, which will keep it at one game.

But go ahead, keep making things up.

visit the mindful mission.

by big_lowitzki on Aug 7, 2007 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

DeRosa....
.... needs to bring his 1B mitt tomorrow.  Lee needs a rest big time.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 9:09 PM CDT reply actions  

God, i hate this....
WTF is going on!  Can we please score a run wiht a runner on 3rd with less than 2 outs.  Give up the out for godsake and swing the bat.  This is horrible, this team has lost their good fundamental play and its making me sick.

by Aram mvp on Aug 7, 2007 9:10 PM CDT reply actions  

A-Ram
He really could have been helpful tonight...

by ak123 on Aug 7, 2007 9:10 PM CDT reply actions  

its funny all the dlee hate and aramis love
last year aramis was the guy that "couldnt carry a team on his own"

and dlee was the savior

hilarious...

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 9:11 PM CDT reply actions  

F@ck off.
this team is going down, and nobody needs your incessant trolling.

by princefieldersdiet on Aug 7, 2007 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

excuse me?
if you think the team's going down, get the heck out of here

quit on the season, just like a ton of people did in April

its a bad stretch, we played .700 ball for a month, a bad stretch was going to come

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

so frustrated
with this bullshit. this really does look like the team from april that couldn't win at all.

by princefieldersdiet on Aug 7, 2007 9:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Torn
between utter disgust and trying to keep this all in perspective.

by CubsFan1987 on Aug 7, 2007 9:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Please....
go toward the latter.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Len mocking the
Houston Astros announcer...funny stuff...
Go Riverhawks!

by Neifi Puppy on Aug 7, 2007 9:14 PM CDT reply actions  

When one bat slumps in this lineup...
it seems like they all start to slump....all of them start pressing and lose their fundamentals....we really have not seemed to have many sac flies this year...

by razzpunk on Aug 7, 2007 9:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Kendall
If Kendall is going to go back to being an OBP machine, he needs to go to the top of the order.  1 or 2.  His walks are wasted and even counter productive at the bottom.

by californiachicagoan on Aug 7, 2007 9:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Good to see...
Wood go more than an inning.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 9:15 PM CDT reply actions  

31 pitches from K wood
and he looks good
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 7, 2007 9:16 PM CDT reply actions  

I just hope he feels good tomorrow.
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 7, 2007 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Clone Theriot....or at least give some of the
other players a shot of his scrappy play....one guy who gets on my nerves is Cliff Floyd....can anyone tell me what he has added to this club this year?

by razzpunk on Aug 7, 2007 9:17 PM CDT reply actions  

He's added:
Injuries, strikeouts and bad blood against the fans because they boo him.

I just hope he added something positive to the clubhouse because he's added nothing on the field. He's a player on a rapid decline.

by Fraggin Judge on Aug 8, 2007 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone up for a Lou tirade?
Who's up for more kicking dirt on an umpire??? I think we're in need of a surge!

by ak123 on Aug 7, 2007 9:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Cubs need some life...a spark
I say get Dunn, even though his defense is horrible and he strikes out too much. He would give the Cubs a threat at the corner OF spot. Floyd is hobbling around, D-Lee is lost, A-Ram is hurting, Theriot is trying to carry this team, Fontenot has lost his magic...and the rest of the AAA boys are just not ready for prime time. Our pitching is too good this year not to give it a go and make some deals. No guarantee that next year the starting pitching will be anywhere close to this.

by Kirbyk70 on Aug 7, 2007 9:18 PM CDT reply actions  

are going to hit 30 K this series?
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 7, 2007 9:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow Len just said
we have 5 called 3rd K's in this game. Is this a new Gerald Perry Mantra?

by cubsnlinux on Aug 7, 2007 9:20 PM CDT reply actions  

talk about going down quietly...
Something has to wake this team up!
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 7, 2007 9:22 PM CDT reply actions  

3 outs left.
this team really isn't good anymore. guess it was fun while it lasted. and capuano's pitching a good game for the brew crew. guess we gotta go get them tomorrow, as if we had a chance against oswalt...

by princefieldersdiet on Aug 7, 2007 9:22 PM CDT reply actions  

do the Cubs now have the lightest hitting OF?
Floyd (4HR)
Jones (2HR)
Murton (2HR)

that must be a record.

they cannot continue like that. A big bat is a must. The DRays can do a better job at hitting.

by CubFaninNY on Aug 7, 2007 9:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Let's just pray
somehow the Cubs remember how to produce runs, or else this NL Central race is gonna become a one-horse race.

by CubsFan1987 on Aug 7, 2007 9:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Now can the Murton haters shut up?
even though he won't get a start out of it...
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Aug 7, 2007 9:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Zambo needs to come up big...
with both his arm and apparently his bat....boy we need a spark...team seems like the Mets series just wiped them out....Dumpster on...yuck!

by razzpunk on Aug 7, 2007 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Let's all remember the wise words of the Al...
as July 31st neared...

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

by Rogue 52 on Aug 7, 2007 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Poor Al
as dumb as he is sexy.

by MarlaSinger on Aug 7, 2007 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chill!
I'm sick to my stomach, but it's not the end of the world.  We all have happy lives, right?

Even if the Brewers win, we're still only 2 games behind.  Big deal.  

Murton has been hitting fine.  Keep him in LF.  

Wood pitched fine.  Now if we send EPat back to Iowa, bring up Pie, keep JJ on the bench, and keep Theriot/Fontenot in the lineup, things might be better. :-)

Oh, and can someone get Dempster out of the game?

by zevkalman on Aug 7, 2007 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

So are we supposed to start looking
in the rear view mirror for the Cardinals now?

by MarlaSinger on Aug 7, 2007 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

i really thought the cubs could win this.
now we get to hear all kinds of idiots on here tell us how we need to keep everything in perspective. yeah right. this season is over. we have nobody thats hitting. soriano's out, aram hasn't hit for about a month, lee looks clueless. our team consists of theriot and zambrano.

IM OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCING THIS: TODAY, AUGUST 7TH IS WHEN THE CUBS SEASON OFFICIALLY DIED.

you can quote me on that later. because you all know I'm right.

...perspective my ass.

by princefieldersdiet on Aug 7, 2007 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

here's the real question
if for some reason we turn it back around you know if pigs fly or something like that, can we ban you from the band wagon, if so ill gladly save this quote and post it every game before we play, once again thats assuming we somehow do the impossible and turn this sinking ship around

by INWes44 on Aug 7, 2007 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL...
...perspective my ass.

  Exactly.

PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who knew?
Who knew that being one and a half games back means the season is dead.
visit the mindful mission.

by big_lowitzki on Aug 7, 2007 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

how many runners
were left in scoring position today?  The cubbies need to step up and start hitting.  

by AJ on Aug 7, 2007 9:27 PM CDT reply actions  

This offense is hideous.
They are passive, they are confused. They are showing absolutely no confidence, and absolutely no emotion.

by ClosingTime on Aug 7, 2007 9:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Depressing
we have now lost five of the last six and nobody seems to be able to hit water if they fell out of the boat. I'm starting to get that sinking feeling. They had better turn it around real quick or we are going to go back home five or six games out and struggling to stay above .500.

by qccub on Aug 7, 2007 9:28 PM CDT reply actions  

I think during our hot streak
our offense was just enough! We were getting those timely hits which kind of over shadowed our lack of power. But now our thin offense is being exposed by crappy pitchers who suddenly are having career years when they face us.

by cubsnlinux on Aug 7, 2007 9:30 PM CDT reply actions  

How
is it idiotic to try and keep this in perspective? Worst case scenario, as of today, the Cubs are 2GB. Nobody can predict the future, so unless you can I suggest you take your pessimism and find a nice quiet corner to mope.

by CubsFan1987 on Aug 7, 2007 9:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Lou was right
don't get too excited when you're in tie for 1st place. It couldn't have happened any sooner. It started at the next game.

by CubFaninNY on Aug 7, 2007 9:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Lou gonna let Dempster lead off? :-)
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 7, 2007 9:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Well at least I get to see Theriot hit once more..
then tomorrow we get to see Zambo shake this team up with a no hitter and a grand slam....Cubs win 4-0!!!! Book it!

by razzpunk on Aug 7, 2007 9:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Time for a Brad Lidge implosion!!!
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 9:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Keep dreaming
This team has scored three runs the first two games of the series. You really think they are going to score three this inning?

by qccub on Aug 7, 2007 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

giddy up
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 7, 2007 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Breaking news: Sun will rise tommarow
It's August 7th plenty of baseball left to play.  I think lou will be able to keep this team from dropping to far.   The offense is going to get hot again, probably in Colorado, our starters are doing ok lately, and our bullpen is doing well.
By the way...what was our record last year?
Will Ohman is eating onion rings in a diner. The door chimes as Lou Pinnella walks in. Slowly everything fades to black.

by jds2 on Aug 7, 2007 9:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Who cares
what our record was last year? I get sick of that argument. I've been a Cub fan since the late 60's and you know what? Finishing at .500, or being better than last year isn't good enough for me anymore. I'm tired of losing, and being happy with just being better than last year is a loser mentality. No, I don't think the season is over and yes, I still feel like this team has a shot at winning the division. But they are playing shitty baseball right now and it is depressing to say the least. I personally don't enjoy the experience when they lose five out of six games, the last two to one of the crappiest teams in the league.

by qccub on Aug 7, 2007 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Religiously Confused One...
... pinch hits to start the 9th.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 9:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Go Cubs!
I mean, we need some positive sentiment, don't we? Got to keep our heads up.

Go Cubs! Go Cubs! Let's go, Cubbies!

by wenya on Aug 7, 2007 9:35 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm with ya!
GO CUBS!
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 7, 2007 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pass the Kool-Aid!
Go Cubs Go!!

We'll get 'em tomorrow!!  

:-)

That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 7, 2007 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sensing...
... a true-Cub-fan-passion in that statement.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK, you can have the Kool-aid first.
good night.  see ya tomorrow.  TTFN.
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 7, 2007 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Capuano...
... pitching a SO through 5, but is at 83 pitches.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 9:35 PM CDT reply actions  

This is Moneyball to the nth degree
No one is swinging. At anything. Even Billy Beane would be throwing chairs if this were happening.

The Houston feed just said we are 0-19 with RISP. Wow.

by bloomerang on Aug 7, 2007 9:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Did you read Moneyball?
Billy Beane threw chairs all the time in that book. Strikeouts. Popups. Blown holds. Billy Beane is like the general manager most likely to throw chairs.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well pick up tomorrow's game and win 3 of 4
in Colorado and it is a winning road trip....18 innings and 3 runs for the Cubs this series.....YEOWCH!!!

by razzpunk on Aug 7, 2007 9:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Pagan...
.... wiffs on what s/h been ball 4.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 9:37 PM CDT reply actions  

No worries
Murton would have just bounced into a DP

by MarlaSinger on Aug 7, 2007 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look
Another Strike out from a AAA all-star.

Never seen that before this year.

by MarlaSinger on Aug 7, 2007 9:38 PM CDT reply actions  

So, a guy goes one for two...
...with a home run, and you decide to flag the strikeout?

Baseball is a game of failure. A lot of people don't seem to have the stomach for that. It gets... aggravating.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup, even a .300 hitter
fails 70% of the time.
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pagan is 3-22 since the All-Star
break.  So why is he on the club instead of Pie?  Do we really need his stick from both sides of the plate?
That white W flag is the most beautiful sight to see. Go Cubs Go!!

by LAcarl519 on Aug 7, 2007 9:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Because Pie was even worse?
Cub fans were fixated once on Wood and Prior. Now we seem to be obsessed with Pie.

by Fraggin Judge on Aug 8, 2007 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Big game tomorrow! We can win it and right the
ship in Colorado! Cubs don't fall apart now....Lou throw some stuff in the dugout!!!!

by razzpunk on Aug 7, 2007 9:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Whatever you say
The endless optimism you have is sweet, stupid, but sweet.

by MarlaSinger on Aug 7, 2007 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bob summed it up nicely
"....Absolutely Horrendous offensive approach the last two nights".

by cubsnlinux on Aug 7, 2007 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Theriot K's!
good lord!
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Aug 7, 2007 9:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Make that 26 Ks in 2 games.
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

The Brewers are masters
of the sac fly tonight we could take a hint or two

by INWes44 on Aug 7, 2007 9:41 PM CDT reply actions  

With all due respect...
to the distinguished fan from the Ivy League, I think it may be time to turn over a buffet table in the locker room.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 9:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Trust me
He deserves no respect.

by MarlaSinger on Aug 7, 2007 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

There are things about you that I like.
You're smart, you're funny, you're... spectacular in bed... But you're intolerable! You have very serious emotional problems. Deep seated problems for which you should seek professional help.

by MarlaSinger on Aug 7, 2007 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess...
3 out of 4 ain't bad...

by carmenfanzone on Aug 8, 2007 7:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

game summary
0-19 with RISP
10 Ks
2 stupid "bring the INF in."
 result=clueless team.

oh, btw, Zambrano is due for a bad game. I say it'll happen tomorrow, and the Cubs will lose 3 of 4 to the Rockies. They'll be 4-5 out when they limp back home.

by CubFaninNY on Aug 7, 2007 9:41 PM CDT reply actions  

I want you to be wrong
but I think you're right.

If you have to tell the truth I would suggest you try some other site.  These people don't want to hear it.

by MarlaSinger on Aug 7, 2007 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know normally people...
...who want to be taken seriously don't name themselves after drugged-out crazies from Fight Club. Or maybe that's just me.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know, come to think of it...
...most fans don't sign up during the middle of a disappointing loss to troll the comments. Just a thought.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hah. Hah.
Hah.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 7, 2007 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

If your such a Fight Club fan
why don't you tell us what the original line in that scene was, the line Fincher cut...
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Enjoy your ban.
and thanks for walking into it, genius.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Run a Corkscrew up your ass
and then let me pull it out.

by MarlaSinger on Aug 7, 2007 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Try something I wouldn't enjoy.
rookie. I'm a Marine. I 've had worse done to me when I was having fun.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ahh Marines
Big muscles, small dicks.

by MarlaSinger on Aug 7, 2007 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't hit bottom...
but I beat the hell out of the sides.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Semper fi!
n/t
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Aug 8, 2007 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oohrah!
n/t
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 8, 2007 6:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

And CW jumps in to prove my point
in less than 5 minutes.

Thanks CW.

by MarlaSinger on Aug 7, 2007 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hi troll.
How's the trolling? Troll much? Of course you do. You're a troll. Bye troll.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about we give Carlos some run support tomorrow
Is that an idea people are in favor of? I mean as long as he is getting guys out, the offense might as well keep up their end of the bargain. Good things the bars in NYC are open until 4, maybe I can just sleep until the game tomorrow.

Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is some kind of insanity, isn't it?

by bloomerang on Aug 7, 2007 9:41 PM CDT reply actions  

another factor we are overlooking
aside from the injuries we are in the middle of a stretch of 20 straight games, including two roadtrips one after a sunday night game, and the home stand was against two quality teams, im not saying this is our hardest stretch of baseball by any means but its understandable that we might struggle towards the end of it

by INWes44 on Aug 7, 2007 9:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Jason "Crash" Kendall
needs to sneak into the park and turn on the sprinklers tonight.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tulo!
Goes yard.  Now 3-1 Milwaukee.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 9:45 PM CDT reply actions  

But 26 strikeouts in 2 nights indicates the team
is FREAKING OUT and pressing like crazy....would rather they were being cool and calm with some swagger rather than being all jumpy at the plate...

by razzpunk on Aug 7, 2007 9:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Capuano
is starting to get hit.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 9:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Crazy idea-- ur thoughts???
What if D-Lee moved to leadoff until Soriano returns?

He isn't hitting as much for power although he has picked it up.  He has such a high BA he will guarantee to get on base more often than not.  

We could probably produce some more runs that way.

What are your thoughts?

I'm sure I'll get "ARE YOU CRAZY!" comments back lol.

by ak123 on Aug 7, 2007 9:49 PM CDT reply actions  

1st and 3rd
... no one out for the Rockies. I have more faith in them to push at least one across than our Boys in Blue.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 9:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Now it's 3-2
... still no one out. This should be Capuano's last inning, meaning the Brewer 'pen for 3 inning at Coors.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 9:51 PM CDT reply actions  

I Was Wrong....
Capuano is out now... Milwaukee bullpen will have to go at least 4 tonight.  Sweet.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 9:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Not watching
tomorrow. I need a break, getting too depressing. Even if they win tomorrow, they will still have dropped two out of three to a crap team. I'll get back on the bus in Colorado.

by qccub on Aug 7, 2007 9:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Rocks....
tie it up!  Runners at 2d and 3d, still no one out.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 9:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow.
How many games have the Brewers blown in the last few weeks?
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

anyone else notice
Milwaukee has the same exact schedule as us, only they swap series..
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Aug 7, 2007 9:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah
That's been happening since we played them in June and will happen until we play them in August.  

by IllinoisCubs on Aug 7, 2007 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hawpe...
... with the IBB....

Brewers think they're playing the Cubs, loading 'em up with no out.

PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 9:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Working so far...
as Torrealba pops out for the first out, to bring up the pitcher's spot.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 9:59 PM CDT reply actions  

4-3
cool!
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Aug 7, 2007 10:01 PM CDT reply actions  

matt murton
Is not a major league baseball player.
"You're fired." - Dallas Green to Billy Connors while Billy was staying in the hospital.

by jdoolsiu on Aug 7, 2007 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

1-2 HR
I'd take that any night..
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Aug 7, 2007 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sucks
Belongs in the minors.

by Itchy on Aug 7, 2007 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

meh troll...
how come he sucks? Tell me why..
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Aug 7, 2007 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

a career .295 hitter?
I don't think so...
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Aug 7, 2007 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's just a guy
no more, no less.  We need something more than that, no offense to Matt but we need more!

by Itchy on Aug 7, 2007 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dear Jim Hendry
You are right.
We don't need anybody else.

This team.
Is just.
Fine.

Just.
Fine.

"You're fired." - Dallas Green to Billy Connors while Billy was staying in the hospital.

by jdoolsiu on Aug 7, 2007 10:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah.
The Cubs can't count on the Brewers gifting them every night like this, though. They've got to take advantage of the Brewer stumbles, rahter than losing and then praying for Festivus miracles.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's looking like...
the Brewers are blowing another one. Agreed, they need to take advantage of those blow-ups...
You are freaking out man!

by crw89 on Aug 7, 2007 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

what's with all the people coming in
and just spewing negativity

i dont get it

they dont have anything better to do?

this is what your life is?

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 10:07 PM CDT reply actions  

No, they don't.
That's why I've laid off game threads (though I came tonight for the Brewers collapse). The trolls and the baseball retarded come out to spew doom and gloom and ridicule anyone with baseball sense. It's no fun when the Cubs lose around here. There's not even space for some reasoned baseball discussion, as you and I have enjoyed over the catcher situation. It's all doom and gloom. Blech.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

i just dont see the point
i'm extremely disappointed and frustrated with the Cubs and sure there's a lot of doubt seeping in as i'm sure there is with most Cubs fans

but i dont see the joy in coming in here and telling us to all quit on the season

by DartmouthCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nor do I.
Apparently some enjoy it, however. I have enough stress in my life with school and work; why complicate that with negativity over a pro sports team? Why spend valuable time atagonizing when there are far better things to do or better conversations to be had? I don't get it, either.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

No Ivy league
people get pissed at thoughtless optimism and morons like Gary telling people they are suck for having an opinion for themselves.

I'm sure Gary, Al and other are very happy having their opinions given to them anally but a few free thinking people will come to their own conclusions which are just as valid as yours.

by MarlaSinger on Aug 7, 2007 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Obviously
you would be the authority of final appeal on the mind-states of "Ivy League" persons.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

So I guess
never saying anything is baseball smarts?

Do you keep your brain in your vagina or do you have your boyfriend carry it around for you?

by MarlaSinger on Aug 7, 2007 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope you enjoy
the rest of your life to a greater degree than that with which you approach the child's game of baseball. T'would be sad if you bring this level of vacuous, insipid wit to any occasion.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lets get to 88 wins
 I think that will win the Central by 3.
 But this team is hitting with runners in scoring position like they did in April and May,
 Jones, Floyd and now Lee is killing us in clutch spots, bases juiced with no outs and score one run.
 Take away the Cubs big inning of 6 runs against the Mets, and the bats have been Artic cold
Facing Oswalt, goodness.

by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Aug 7, 2007 10:09 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree.
I think 88 wins takes the NL Central...but the hitting with RiSP has to improve. Tonight's game was lost in the first inning, when you've got a pitcher who's walked 3 of the first 4, walked ina run, no less, left the bases loaded with 0 out, and the Cubs get 1 run. That was huge gor Williams and the 'Stros. They've got to get focused like they wer in June and get those guys in from scoring position. It's not going to take much to win the Cnetral and once the Cubs get to the playoffs, it's a new season!
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree - too
De Rosa swings at ball four, and Jacque - is Jacque. Feeble infield liner.

Don't get me started on Cliff...

All "slump" indicators...

THESE are some of the guys we keep hearing from the baseball "experts" will give us the "edge" against the BREW b/c of the great experience they have in pennant races/playoffs.

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 7, 2007 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would do a compromise
with Ronnie. I'd go for a 3-man crew, let Ron continue to be the rah-rah guy, bring in a real color guy, let Ron do all the 7th inning stretches, and trash the guest conductor garbage.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 10:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Brewers...
go down quietly in the 7th. Linebrink in for Mil.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 10:14 PM CDT reply actions  

It's amazing...
How Hendry continues to construct teams that fall apart at the loss of 1 player....

The offense better stop playing like they did in April and May and start playing like they did in June and July PRONTO.....or it will be another lost season...

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Aug 7, 2007 10:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Helton Yard!
6-3.

I'm not sure what's worse. Silent bats like the Cubs, or constantly blowing big leads like the Brewers.

PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 10:16 PM CDT reply actions  

As I said yesterday -
Just freaking sit all of the "regulars" for one game. Too bad Daryl Ward is injured...

All of the "stars" slumping at the same time. And not ONE of them is showing leadership. I like DLEE and A-Ram very much, but one of those guys has to step it up.

It is a distinct possibility that will be swept by the Astros - it will be 0-0 in the 9th inning and somehow they will blow it in the 9th.

Just like the game Z pitched a one-hitter in against the Pads.

How ironic in that unlike the hot streak when the BREW wouldn't lose either - now both teams cannot win.

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 7, 2007 10:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Who is more depressed right now?
Cubs fans who have had the teams hot streak fade the past week OR Brewers fans who continue to watch their team blow leads? I think we are much more able to bounce back compared to the kids in Milwaukee....just need to stop pressing.

by razzpunk on Aug 7, 2007 10:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Just got in
saw DLee(aka Mr Clutch) had 3 K's, what the heck is going on?  How come ARam didn't play?

by Itchy on Aug 7, 2007 10:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Lou rested
Rammy's knee so he could play the rest of the trip. He needed a night off. His swing has gotten really lazy and has devolved into an uppercut, anyway. He could use a night or two off. It's a good move by Lou, IMO.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the update
No sense in saying anything negative, I'm sure it's all been covered. Wait, just saw Derosa's K in the 1st, what a weak ass freaking swing!!  JJ still blows, 27 HRs to 2?  What was he on?

by Itchy on Aug 7, 2007 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

nl central
turning into comedy central again . . .

by CZ38 on Aug 7, 2007 10:23 PM CDT reply actions  

There have got to be some DFA'd guys to ...
take a chance on.....playing 2 really good major leaguer's.....one pretty good one, on choking outfielder, 2 over the hill guys and 3 AAA players isn't going to get it done in the stretch run......This is two days in a row a 5+ ERA pitcher has come out and silenced the Cubs.

Also...LOU NEEDS TO SEPERATE HILL AND MARSHALL in the rotation.  

I didn't see tonight...but was Marshall hit hard in the 6th...or did the fact the Cubs don't have real major leaguers in many positions and thus a "slow" defense have a lot to do with it?

The best defense is a good offense

by kcjones on Aug 7, 2007 10:23 PM CDT reply actions  

He wasnt hit hard at all...
Singles and a dribbler in the infield...
Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Aug 7, 2007 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

ug, we're going to get swept...
by the astros. not good. i hope z can pitch a shutout and hit a homerun tomorrow.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Aug 7, 2007 10:25 PM CDT reply actions  

If there is one guy who
can do it - he wears the cape.

But they owe us a sweep, and Oswald will be on it tomorrow.

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 7, 2007 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oswalt is a
herky-jerky little twerp. The Cubs are going to stomp a mudhole in his butt and walk it dry.

(Hey, it's worth a try. The puffing up of the opposing pitchers isn't working anymore. We misght as well try vociferously insulting them.)

"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Julio Gets Through the 8th Unscathed...
...gets through the top four of the Brewer lineup.  

6-3 Rockies heading to the bottom of the 8th.

PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 10:27 PM CDT reply actions  

In the words of Monty Burns...
Excellent.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its killin me
a goddamn single in the 1st inning and its 3-0!

The magic dust has blown off...

Need a new supply.

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 7, 2007 10:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Brewers Pressing Offensively Now...
...Cub-style. 8th inning, 4 batters, one basehit, 8 pitches seen.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 10:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Back For A Minute to OMAN
Just read the comments by Ohman after the Cubs shipped him to the pig farms.
What really pisses me off and I'm sure most of the people on this venue are the offerings made by Ohman about his shoulder.
Listen you dung head, the Cubs are trying to take the cake here. We all could care less about what you have and have not done. If you were having a problem with your shoulder -- even a minor one -- "tell the trainer and the manager and get your ass on the DL." Now you are using this problem as an excuse for your crappy performances over the past month? We need someone to get people out -- not some lame shouldered lob slinger who all of a sudden blames his problems on a bad arm. If you are really a team player, you would have stepped up and told management the problems you were experiencing.
After this self-excusing presentation, this poor excuse for a Cub and a contributing teammate should never be allowed to cross the white lines again at Wrigley Field unless he is a member of the opposition.

by ceegeewow on Aug 7, 2007 10:29 PM CDT reply actions  

While We Are At It --
Look at waiver deals -- look at other left-handed hitters at AA and AAA. Find someone who can take the spots of JJ and Cliff.
Okay with Cliff as a pinch hitter until Ward can return. But Cliff is cooked -- done -- awful -- for too long.
As for JJ -- he had his five or six games -- but he is a liability. He can't drive the ball -- is nothing better than poor in the OF -- and if you do not think that Pie would be an improvement over JJ I wonder why -- and don't tell me that Pie is overmatched. Would you say that JJ is not?
I'll take Pie over JJ from today until forever. It is time to dump the underachiever and give the kid the rest of the season.

by ceegeewow on Aug 7, 2007 10:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Brewers Burning More Bullpen...
... but I do like Yost's plan to reduce the innings of the relief staff:  Lose the road games so you only have to pitch 8 innings.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 10:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Bases Juiced...
... no outs again for the Rocks with the top of the lineup coming up.  Put it away boys!
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 10:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Whew.
Yes, Do it Rockies! Bail out the Cubs for one more night!
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm..
I'm not used to seeing runs scoring with the bases loaded and nobody out.  Go ROCKIES!!
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 10:41 PM CDT reply actions  

E-3 on the Burgermeister...
...2 runs score.  8-3 Rockies, still no out.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 10:41 PM CDT reply actions  

YES!
Finally something to cheer for!
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brewers look to have blown it
Colorado winning 8-3.  Two out with two on in the bottom of the 8th.  Matt H. just hit a 420 foot out.

by zevkalman on Aug 7, 2007 10:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe this was meant to be
Maybe we needed to get this slump out of the way now, reach rock bottom and get pissed an charge back. At least the Brewers keep losing to help us out along the way

by louslovechild on Aug 7, 2007 10:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe this was meant to be
Maybe we needed to get this slump out of the way now, reach rock bottom and get pissed an charge back. At least the Brewers keep losing to help us out along the way

by louslovechild on Aug 7, 2007 10:45 PM CDT reply actions  

It's A Laugher!
11-3 as Helton goes Yard x 2.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 10:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Brewer 'Pen...
...keeps working.

Their starter can't make it more than 5+, forcing their bullpen to throw 73 pitches, and they're still not out of the 8th.  Me like.

PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 10:48 PM CDT reply actions  

1.0 back still
good..
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Aug 7, 2007 10:49 PM CDT reply actions  

CRAP. We suck again.
I blame Scott Eyre... it's his fault D-lee broke his wrist.
1-RUN GAMES = 15-18 | EXTRA INNINGS = 1-7 | HOME = 30-28 | updated on 8/7

by SackMan on Aug 7, 2007 10:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Lee is still batting .320
So Lee is a good and valuable hitter to have.  Now we need a power hitter...how about Bonds?  He has 756 homers, and doesn't need to eat, just to take shots.

by zevkalman on Aug 7, 2007 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bonds just hit 756.
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 10:52 PM CDT reply actions  

756
Thank goodness that's over with.  In about a week, we'll be able to tune in a sports show without immediately hearing the words "Barry Bonds".
Wrigley Field will be heaven in two thousand seven!

by upnorthcubfan on Aug 7, 2007 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow.
I really don't know how to feel...let me say, I'm just glad it's over.
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rockies have won 9 home series in a row
(if they can hang on to their 8 run lead). They have some very good players, but the Cubs can come in and put a stop to that.
Wrigley Field will be heaven in two thousand seven!

by upnorthcubfan on Aug 7, 2007 10:53 PM CDT reply actions  

In other baseball news...
Justin Upton is a single away from the cycle in AZ.
"That wouldn't be a homerun in a telephone booth!!"

by TNCubsFan on Aug 7, 2007 10:59 PM CDT reply actions  

its a sad day in baseball
 
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Aug 7, 2007 11:00 PM CDT reply actions  

G'Night
n/t
"One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth." - Joe Garagiola

by gary varsho on Aug 7, 2007 11:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh...
... Brewers lost 11-4.
PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 11:09 PM CDT reply actions  

I blame Michael Barrett
for the Cubs slump.

He is stealing signs and emailing them to the opposition from whatever city he's in.

It is AUGUST, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Aug 7, 2007 11:28 PM CDT reply actions  

HerrProf and T-Shirt Bet
Herr, I wear an XL.  Please post in t-shirt diary that you're paying and shipping to me in Spotsylvania, Virginia.

Hooray Murton.

PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 7, 2007 11:54 PM CDT reply actions  

HerrProf? HerrProf?
*Crickets chirping*

Why do I have this feeling I'm gonna get stiffed?

Moose... Rocco.... help the Prof find his checkbook!

PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 8, 2007 10:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Herr....
... just donate an amount you see fit to the Shriner's Hospital for Children and we'll call it a day. No proof necessary--I'll trust you.

Link: http://www.shrinershq.org/Hospitals/_Hospitals_for_Children/

PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Aug 8, 2007 6:19 PM CDT reply actions  

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Cubs By The Numbers is a history of the ballclub by uniform number, but the biographies help trace the history of our beloved team in a new way. For everyone who's a Cubs fan, anyone who ever wore the uniform is like family. Cubs By The Numbers reintroduces readers to some of their long-lost ancestors, even ones they think they already know.

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