"The Worm Has Turned"

by Al on Sep 14, 2007 8:44 AM CDT in Recaps Comment 148 comments

That's what Lou Piniella said about the Cubs' fortunes after Wednesday night's heart-stopper of a win.

After last night's 6-2 win over the Astros, which put the Cubs back in sole possession of first place by half a game over the Brewers, maybe Lou's on to something.

And what turned things last night? Power, something the Cubs have been woefully short of most of the year. They hit four home runs, including two in the first inning, with Alfonso Soriano leading off the game with one for the eighth time this year (one more and he breaks the team record for such things; it was set by Rick Monday in 1976). Cliff Floyd and Daryle Ward also went deep; Floyd's now homered in consecutive games and if he, at last, has his power stroke back, this is what we've been waiting for all season from him. Better late than never, right?

And Ward, playing in place of Derrek Lee (who fouled a ball off his knee on Wednesday, and sat, presumably, so he can be 100% for the series this weekend in St. Louis), had a Lee-like day, homering and also hitting a single. He's now hitting .340/.446/.540 in a no-longer-small-sample-size 100 at-bats, with 3 HR and 16 RBI and twenty walks, and I daresay he may be the most valuable bench player the Cubs have had in my lifetime.

With the 4-0 lead before the Astros had sent anyone to the plate, Steve Trachsel didn't have to be perfect, and he wasn't -- in five innings he allowed seven hits, three walks and two home runs, fortunately both solo jobs, and was helped out of a jam when Lance Berkman lined into a double play in the third inning. Props again to the bullpen; they shut the Astros down on only one hit over the last four innings with five strikeouts.

One of those strikeouts was Kerry Wood's called K on Craig Biggio to end the seventh inning; this was notable for two reasons. First, because Wood had had such a poor outing against the Pirates on Sunday, I was pleased to see him put up a 1-2-3 inning, and second, because this was the final time these two veteran players would face each other. Biggio had faced Wood 41 times before last night, getting six hits; he had struck him out ten times, and that was the eleventh; after the K you could see on the telecast, Biggio having a brief conversation with plate umpire Jeff Kellogg. I could imagine him saying something complimentary about Wood; in his final visit to Wrigley Field earlier this month, Biggio was given a couple of gifts by the Cubs (a number "7" from the scoreboard and a seat numbered "7"), and gave to Wood a signed bat which read, "To Kerry Wood, who threw the most dominant pitching performance I've ever seen", referring, of course, to the twenty-strikeout game on May 6, 1998; oddly, Biggio was the only one of the Astros' regulars who didn't strike out at least twice in that game.

Enough nostalgia. We have a pennant race to follow; sixteen games remain (now seventeen for the rival Brewers, who have only one off day remaining while the Cubs have two), and I also wanted to give props to Scott Eyre, who threw a scoreless inning last night and who now has a 1.02 ERA since the All-Star break, pitching now much more like the solid reliever he was in 2006. Good. The Cubs need that. The bullpen did a very good job in the Houston series, despite Dempster's loss in the first game -- throwing a total of 10.2 innings, allowing eight hits and two runs, with three walks and thirteen strikeouts.

We'd take that sort of performance for the rest of the year, right? As long as they slam the door when it needs to be slammed? I was also pleased to see Lou leaving Carlos Marmol in to throw two innings last night -- thus saving Bob Howry and Michael Wuertz for tonight, and maybe saving some other bullpen arms for use in the doubleheader tomorrow.

Onward. We will know much more about the shape of this race on Sunday evening.

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Just for fun

How about Lloyd McClendon in 1989? I know he was probably more of a platoon in LF than strictly a bench player but his 100+ AB's, and 12 HR's, might put him into that "Best Bench Player in Al's Lifetime" mix.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. -- Lee Constantine Elia, 1983.

by krummy12 on Sep 14, 2007 8:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

McClendon...

... had 249 AB's, about half a season's worth, and more than twice as many as Ward. You're right, I'd consider him more a "platoon regular" than a "bench player".

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 14, 2007 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sheets

With Sheets going tonight against Cincy, tonight's game is doubly important. You know the Cubs will lose at least one to the Cards. Assuming Sheets leads the Brewers to a win tonight (a big assumption, I know, but I'm making it), we must win to stay out in first. It's starting to get too late into the season to give up first anymore, even if it's by a half game. Every game from here on out is huge, but tonight is extra huge.

by park on Sep 14, 2007 8:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Sheets

He can be tough on any given night, but the Reds did tag him for 5 ER the only other time they have faced him this year. Unfortunately the Brewers scored twice as many runs and he got the win. That's going to be the key, the Reds pitching, and they just used up their decent pitchers on sweeping the Reds. Let's hope that at least the Reds hot hitting can continue. Seems they have scored at least 4 runs 8 out of the last 9 games. That at least should give them a shot.

"We're going to turn this team around 360 degrees." -Jason Kidd

by tony412 on Sep 14, 2007 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Biggio vs. Wood

I was wondering if either Kerry or Craig would give a tip of the cap when heading back to a respective dugout. Would have been a nice gesture I was hoping to see.

Always sad when you watch a player like Biggio swing the stick for the last time. Just like even as a Bears fan, it'll be sad to see Brett Favre hang it up as well.

Thanks for playing the game the way you played it, Craig.

Tim

by ttagaris on Sep 14, 2007 8:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Playing the right way?

With what, a suit of armor?

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

by lancaster99 on Sep 14, 2007 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sad for Favre?

Hunh?! The only reason to be sad to see Fav-ruh go is because he has been stinking it up the last few seasons, and it gives the Bears one less chance to tee-off on King Cheesehead for two games. The less Pukers the better - they're due for a long rebuilding campaign anyhow.

Pie, Fontenot, Theriot and Soto up the middle ... yippie oh, oh, oh!

by SpudV on Sep 14, 2007 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sigh.

Well, at least Packer fans like me and Bear fans like you can agree on two things...

Go Cubs.
Bill Belichick is a tool. They can't discipline that arrogant prick enough for me to be satisfied. Could you imagine a Bill Belichick vs. Barry Bonds staredown? You'd have to have it in the middle of the ocean, somewhere big enough to accomodate the vastness of their swollen heads.

by eamuscatuli1881 on Sep 14, 2007 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOUD SUSTAINED LAUGHTER

Eam ol buddy, I about spit my coke all over my computer at work here at that one ..

That is one of the funniest things I have heard in my life and I am still silly giggling about it .. sad thing is that it's TRUE ..

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Sep 14, 2007 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Funny

You mean like the Bears teed off on him in Week 17 last year? Come on man, own up to it. Over the course of his career, Favre has owned the Bears. Owned them. Enough said.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. -- Lee Constantine Elia, 1983.

by krummy12 on Sep 14, 2007 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're joking right?

You mean the Week 17 where the Bears rested the majority of their team as they had already locked up a playoff spot? That week 17?

"If you were a hotdog, would you eat yourself? I know I would!!!"

by TheRiot4Life on Sep 14, 2007 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was wonderin'

if a Cheesehead would come out of the woodwork and mention that game. As stated above, the Bears were resting most of their starters for the playoffs, so the game was slightly above the status of a preseason game. The sorriest site was watching a gleeful Fav-ruh and his teammates celebrating at the end of the game. Sheesh, you'd think they were going to the playoffs or somethin'.

How many other teams would put up with a QB who throws more INT's than TD's? It's like having a closer who throws more walks than strikeouts.

I'll admit that many years ago Fav-ruh "owned" the Bears. I'll plead a Wannestadt/Jauron debacle. Now it's time for King Cheesehead to go back down to the bayou.

Pie, Fontenot, Theriot and Soto up the middle ... yippie oh, oh, oh!

by SpudV on Sep 14, 2007 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What?

"How many other teams would put up with a QB who throws more INT's than TD's? It's like having a closer who throws more walks than strikeouts."

Leave Rex Grossman out of this.

As for Favre, he's only done that three of his 15 seasons as a starter (and only once this century).

by michaelb on Sep 14, 2007 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

sorry michael

but grossman had more td's than picks

and only three qb's in the league had more td's

Matt Murton career in September: .321/.401/.576, 10 jacks (165 ab). Make sure Matt the Bat gets in the lineup this month Lou!

by kylejo on Sep 14, 2007 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Funny

First, you better watch the tape of that first half when all the Bear starters were apparently "out". Laughable.

And you do mean that same Brett Favre with a career record of 22-8 against Chicago, right? That's the one?

I'm sure it's painful, but true.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. -- Lee Constantine Elia, 1983.

by krummy12 on Sep 14, 2007 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

im glad you have that week 17 game to

hang your cheeshead on, take it, the worthless game is all yours to be proud of.

back to reality, the bears have a stranglehold over this division, i know it hurts, but its true. our defense allowed the greatest player in the game only 23 yards rushing. i cant wait to see what the vaunted 4th round pick brandon jackson rushes up against this bears d when we face the gold and green.

Matt Murton career in September: .321/.401/.576, 10 jacks (165 ab). Make sure Matt the Bat gets in the lineup this month Lou!

by kylejo on Sep 14, 2007 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Biggio

I like him little more now.

I credit last nights win to me, well not really. I did post yesterday that I had a feeling we would hit 3+ homers, fortunately we did.

GO CUBS

It was nice to have a non stressful game

Hey.....Cubs win!!!

by Hammer on Sep 14, 2007 8:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

While maybe more of a "semi-regular"...

...I am also one of the BCBers old enough to recall Paul Popovich. A very solid utility infielder. Could do some decent ABs as well.

Now, if only Leo had rotated him in at 3rd, 2nd, and SS each once a week, and we'd had an actual center fielder, instead of the nightmarish Don Young...

Some bad memories just don't go away. Grrr...

by MN exile on Sep 14, 2007 8:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Popovich....

... was a very good defensive player. Never hit much, though. (Although he did hit .312/.387/.370 for the 1969 Cubs, after they reacquired him from the Dodgers.)

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 14, 2007 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He actually hit a home run

in the very first Cubs game I ever attended.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 14, 2007 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We entering uncharted territory

the Cards have not lost 7 road games in 35 years (1972). How they react is a key in this series. I am very wary of kicking a sleeping dog but would still like to see us smash Tony and Jim Edmonds, two very unlikeable fellows! Hoping to be on top Sunday night.

This is Harry Carray, goodbye from Wrigley Field and So Long Everybody.

by mrcubsfan on Sep 14, 2007 9:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Not tooooo worried about them

I'm not overly concerned about the Cardinals this weekend. Yes, they've lost 7 in a row on the road. Yes, they have a winning record at home. But look, they didn't play well against us in Chicago on Monday. They aren't dominating us at new Busch like they were at old Busch. We're 4-1 there this season and we have our ace starting us off this weekend. Big Z is 2-0 with a 2.30 ERA there this year, and 10-4 on the road.

Not only that, the Cardinals don't really have much to play for. They will give us a fight (literal? metaphorically? the weekend will tell) and aren't going to roll over and play possum. Will we sweep them? Very unlikely. Can we logically take 3-4 from them? Very likely.

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 14, 2007 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is from the St. Louis Dispatch article today

Increasingly reliant on Wainwright and Looper to stabilize their weathered rotation, the Cardinals need to reverse course against Zambrano. He already has beaten them twice this season, has won his last six decisions over the Redbirds and is 7-1 against them since 2004. Zambrano beat the Cardinals three times during their 100-win 2005.

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 14, 2007 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cardinals late season slump historically bigger

First 3-game sweep in Cincinnati since 1998...on top of the first winless road trip since 1972...one game from matching last year's longest losing streak...and it appears within one game of their clubs all time losing streak.

Cubs need to post a longer streak let us say 10 or 11-game streak.

Milw-09-23-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Sep 14, 2007 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What?

Not only that, the Cardinals don't really have much to play for.

Don't you think they'd love to knock us out of the race, regardless of where they are in the standings?

by JFCubFan on Sep 14, 2007 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Of course they would

but I do think that they're feeling pretty deflated right now. They were making a pretty good push, but then something happened and let all the air out of them.

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 14, 2007 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Speaking of deflated...

how about Rick Ankiel. Chemically inflated, then deflated just as quickly.

by eamuscatuli1881 on Sep 14, 2007 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

re: Speaking of deflated...

Perhaps "detoxed" is a better word.

Carlos Marmol, you complete me.

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 14, 2007 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And, in turn,

deglorified... thank goodness.

by eamuscatuli1881 on Sep 14, 2007 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Best bench player of all time.

This is one of those fights you can never win. So if the #s bear out that Ward is one of, if not, THE best then I tip the cap. I seem to recall Richie "The Gravedigger" Hebner coming up with huge hits and Larry Bittner, but the Bittner teams were so damn bad it really didn't matter.

But Ward has been fantastic and it really should be pointed out that Hendry, while yes spending a lot of money, really put together a better "team".

"I can't be held responsible for what I personally tell my goons to do...."- C. Montgomery Burns

by yahoodi on Sep 14, 2007 9:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Hebner...

... had a great year for the Cubs in '84.

Biittner was, as was McClendon, a "platoon regular" -- he had at least 272 AB in all four of his full Cub seasons.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 14, 2007 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Team

Anyone else get the feeling that if we resign Ward, this team is really built for a great run next year as well? All this experience down the stretch can only help guys like Theriot and Marmol. I see great things not only this year but next year also.

About the game last night, I saw only highlights, but it seemed like the guys were on a mission. Hopefully that game Wednesday night, and the postgame ridiculousness of Lou, has sparked this team to play loose down the stretch. Last night was good, but if we can rattle off 8-10 straight the division is ours. I have a feeling our boys are primed for it.

by hawkeyenation on Sep 14, 2007 9:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Please don't say "next year"

Not yet anyway. Usually I am saying it in July, but let's hold off for as long as possible. Hopefully late October sometime.

by Archie on Sep 14, 2007 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Let's make that...

... early November, shall we?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 14, 2007 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

n/t

That's what I said, diddle di?

by Archie on Sep 14, 2007 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

All about semantics

You did say late October, Al says early November. You say tomato, he says tomahto. You say potato, he says potahto. In any case, let's talk about next year AFTER we play in (and win?) the WS!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 14, 2007 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry

That was dumb of me. Good though, bad execution. I shall now return to doing actual work as punishment.

by hawkeyenation on Sep 14, 2007 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't be too upset getting a split in

St. Louis considering the circumstances. Worse case would put us 1 game back Sunday night, and I think that's a long shot. I still think our schedule favors us, especially with the Brewers finishing w/ 4@ATL, 3STL, and 4SD. The only downside could be ATL being out of the wild card and SD already locked up the wild card resting their regulars. It should be an excited 2 weeks.

by billybuck on Sep 14, 2007 9:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I really would have loved...

to be a fly on the wall at last years organizational meetings. The FA targets across the board have just been fantastic this year, and I really have to give Hendry and co. alot of credit for that.

by Damen Jackson on Sep 14, 2007 9:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Those were very good acquisitions.

Especially the starters, Lilly and Marquis. Ward: solid from the bench and filling in for injured players. And if the only non-productive FA, Floyd, starts hitting now, when it counts the most, we should all credit Hendry and co. for a perfect off-season.

by Fraggin Judge on Sep 14, 2007 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

playoff tickets

ok i don't want to jinx anything, but has anyone heard when the cubs will make playoff tickets available for sale?

by drodd on Sep 14, 2007 9:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Nooooooooooooooo

by park on Sep 14, 2007 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You want to tempt the wrath of the whatever from

high atop the thing? Go outdside, turn around three times and spit. What the hell's the matter with you?

by lji001 on Sep 14, 2007 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

tix

Season ticket holders have already had to pay for theirs...

You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 14, 2007 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

wft?

Are you a Cardinals fan or something?

Distracted. That's a funny word. I wonder if anyone ever gets tracted.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 14, 2007 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

wft should be wtf

My question still stands.

Distracted. That's a funny word. I wonder if anyone ever gets tracted.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 14, 2007 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Al, You mentioned the one day off for Brewers, but

I don't see any off days left for them. I show them playing 17 straight while the Cubs have two off days.

by billybuck on Sep 14, 2007 9:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That would make sense...

Seeing that we will have played 2 more games then them by the end of tomorrow nights game.

"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"

by HIGGY on Sep 14, 2007 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I believe you are right.

According to the schedule on milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com, the Brewers' final off day was yesterday. They play for the next 17 consecutive days, finishing the season at home, in a death match against the San Diego Padres to enter the playoffs.

Meanwhile, the Cubs have 16 games left, with off days September 20 and 24, but with a doubleheader tomorrow.

by Fraggin Judge on Sep 14, 2007 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You are right.

No more off-days for the Brewers; I misread their schedule.

After the DH on Saturday that also gives the Cubs a possible advantage.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 14, 2007 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cushion

Lou is wanting a cushion. Let's hope we could go into Saturday with the half game lead, sweep two and Brewers lose. The cushion would not be much but better than a half game! Put the pressure on the young Brewers to win every day.

This is Harry Carray, goodbye from Wrigley Field and So Long Everybody.

by mrcubsfan on Sep 14, 2007 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anyone recall how Uncle Lou

typically uses his relievers for doubleheaders? Granted it depends on the situation and we also have an expanded bullpen, but I wonder if he has ever used a relief pitcher in the afternoon and evening. I suppose we'll see some of the younger arms on Saturday, particularly if the score starts getting lopsided.

What would it take to get Oh-no-man off of the pine?

Pie, Fontenot, Theriot and Soto up the middle ... yippie oh, oh, oh!

by SpudV on Sep 14, 2007 9:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

So many positives last night...

...where to begin?

Abundant home run power! Soriano's lead-off home run was a thing of beauty. Was anyone out there able to figure out exactly where that thing landed? I've watched the replay about five times and the ball seems to simply disappear. I think it's permanently embedded in those concrete arches at the very top of Minute Maid park.

ARam and DWard's shots were screaming no-doubters as well. And how 'bout Uncle Cliffy? All will be forgiven if his power bat reawakens in the final few weeks here.

Solid defense! Uh, except for that easy flyball that dropped in during the bottom of the first. (Is it me or are Lou's dugout expletives are getting easier and easier to figure out?)

Otherwise, we wouldn't be talking about a Trachsel win right now if not for the guys with the gloves. And despite what others have said, Fontenot looks pretty solid at second base to me. His double-play rapport with Theriot has got to count for something. Great catch by JJ in the ninth, too.

It's the bullpen, stupid! You can't roll the dice with an aging finesse guy like Trachsel unless you've got a solid bullpen staff ready to back him up. Wow, Stevie Eyre with a 1.02 ERA since the All-Star Break. Nice bounceback outing from Wood. And Carlos Marmol -- you are starting to bore us with your utter, dominating excellence. (No, you're not.)

Feeling good on a Friday morning...

Carlos Marmol, you complete me.

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 14, 2007 9:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wood

On Sunday's outing in Pittsburgh, it looked like Wood's velocity was down and 1) he wasn't throwing many sliders and 2) those he threw didn't break very much.

It was very encouraging last night to see his velocity up a bit again, fastballs around 93-94, and and his slider working.

by John Q Freejazz on Sep 14, 2007 10:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wood's game long

that by and large he has been effective. 15 appearances equate to the following:

After three appearances of no runs on 3 hits (3.2-IP, 2-BB) each separated on one day rest, the 4th appearance he got stung for 3-Runs on 2-hits and 2-BB....Again 3 zero run appearances 3-5-5 day separations, on a one day rest he got stung for for a run on 2-hits.

Three more appearances of no runs on three days, one day and one day rest before on a one day rest Wood got light up for 2 runs on 4 hits, then two day rest and an appearance of no runs before in Pittsburgh Wood hit for 3 runs on 2 hits and 2 walks. 16 appearances, 12 no runs, one with one run and two runs and two with 3 runs.

Wood if he goes into the off season to strengthen and being able to recover he will be an effective middle reliever next year.

Milw-09-23-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Sep 14, 2007 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

cliche but take one game at a time...

Tonight the Cubs play the Cardinals last great hope as Wainwright is considered this year's ace...he is not close to being an ace...but nonetheless 13-10 3.75 ERA but with a 1.43 WHIP...the 2 year starter possesses a career 15-11 record...last ten he is 5-3 while StL is 6-4.

Zambrano will be needed to bring his dominant A-game stoning the Redbirds lineup although I am wondering how long Lou will allow Z to pitch, 100-110 pitches is probably the max. Lou rested Wuertz, Dempster and Howry last night, although spent some pitches with Marmol to nail down a win, will he use Ohman or Eyre in a spot?

Interestingly when Monday arrives Lou will have Trachsel as a reliever and by Tuesday both Marshall and Trac as relievers in a pinch.

Milw-09-23-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Sep 14, 2007 10:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

re: cliche but take one game at a time...

I agree. I've made peace with the fact that the Cardinals probably won't drop 11 in a row, so a Cubs loss sometime during the next four games is somewhat likely. But I do think it's critical for the Cubs game to take the first game of the series and for Big Z to reassure us that he's out of his Augustian slump.

Carlos Marmol, you complete me.

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 14, 2007 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So true!

first games are critical from here on out.

And Big Z has to show that he is back to June/July form for so many reasons. A dominant AND efficient start for Z would be a huge plus for the Cubs.

I have to miss this game again tonight (flying home!). It seems the Cubs always play well when I can't watch. I hope that will be true to form again tonight.

GO CUBS and GO Z!!

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Sep 14, 2007 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

First game of series statistics

Cubs are 5-18-2 if they lose the first game of a series this year, all told this year since the All Star break the Cubs are 9-7-2 in series and 12-15-3 in the first half...meaning they are 21-22-5 in series contests.....

Winning the the first game of a series equates to 16-4-3 for the Cubs this year in winning a series.

Another interesting statistic, Cubs are 16-9 when Soriano homers.

Milw-09-23-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Sep 14, 2007 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And they're 75-0...

when they score more runs than the opposition.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 14, 2007 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Plus...

Those 7 losses are all road losses. Birds pct at home is much, much better than the road, unlike the Cubs whose home and road records are rather similar.

Leading off and playing short, TheRiot; batting 2nd and catching, Mr.OBP, Jason Kendall.....Do it Lou!

by blackhawk24 on Sep 14, 2007 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Z pitch limit

100-110 pitches is what, 3 or 4 innings?

Distracted. That's a funny word. I wonder if anyone ever gets tracted.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 14, 2007 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

get on your bicycle

If that is the case than be prepared for Hart and Gallagher, the thing is if Lou intends on starting Zambrano on a three day rest for Cincinnati than he cannot push Z too far past 100 pitches

Milw-09-23-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Sep 14, 2007 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually,

I was just kidding around. I think Carlos will be just fine down the stretch. Pitching on short rest will probably help him stay focused.

Distracted. That's a funny word. I wonder if anyone ever gets tracted.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 14, 2007 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Focus.....

sorry didn't know you were kidding...

I think Z will remain focused and actually respond to LaRussa's attempt to rattle him. Watch if LaRussa baits him by walking him if the situation calls for it and see if he runs himself out of control. See if LaRussa beans a player early especially if the Cubs come out of the gate like last night.

Z will have to throw strikes....force them to hit his heavy sinker and get to the 6th or 7th inning.

Milw-09-23-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Sep 14, 2007 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

THAT is a concern - the Z factor

Carlos was as cool as a cuke all during that last game and his on tap passion didn't spew until he gave up the run. If you recall, he almost pulled the water cooler off the shelves in the dugout, but restrained himself. As far as I'm concerned, he redeemed himself there but the big question remains: which Z will show up the rest of the season?

If the Zambrano of the Second Season shows up tonight, and every start the rest of the year, we are in for one heck of a ride.

If the Z of the Post Payday shows up, I see a long cold winter looming ahead and Trachsel probably guaranteed some starts.

Tonight will answer a big question right there.

Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

by cubnational on Sep 14, 2007 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't you know

That we should have DFA'd Ward back in May? That's what everyone was arguing around here back then.

This should all be a lesson to all you who overreact to small sample sizes. I said Ward was a good signing back in March and I've stuck by it all season long.

Of course, I doubt anyone will learn anything from any of this. But congrats to Daryle, who has had a heck of a season for us when he's been healthy.

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh77 on Sep 14, 2007 11:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

For nostalgia purposes...

I went back to read the thread when Ward's signing was announced. Much bellyaching... one person even suggested Michael Tucker would've been better. Funny to look at now.

by eamuscatuli1881 on Sep 14, 2007 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I kind of wish

Lou had taken out Marmol with a big lead like that so that his arm is available again today. I don't like it when he isn't available. He could have had any reliever out there with a 6-2 lead IMO.

MMMMM...Mannys corned beef and a latke

by Kinky Reggae on Sep 14, 2007 11:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I counter that with three words...

WILLIAM MCDANIEL OHMAN.

by eamuscatuli1881 on Sep 14, 2007 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why the expanded bullpen

though if you aren't willing to throw out someone like Pignatello with a 4 run lead and save Marmol for tonight if necessary. Oh-no-man would have probably been ok with a 4 run lead too. Heck, throw Woody for 2 innings and Marmol for one.

by Archie on Sep 14, 2007 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

bird in the hand is better than two in the bush

Marmol was through 25 pitches in two innings, 12 in the 8th and 13 in the 9th. My guess is that Wuertz, Howry, Dempster and Ohman are slated for today's game and Eyre, Wood, Marmol, Hart, Gallagher, Pignatiello and even Trachsel are slated for Saturday.

Milw-09-23-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Sep 14, 2007 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

TOUCHE my friend

TOU-CHE!

MMMMM...Mannys corned beef and a latke

by Kinky Reggae on Sep 14, 2007 11:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

With the way our centry has gone...

we're gonna need more than just one worm to turn...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 14, 2007 11:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

wow...

that's disgusting...

"If you were a hotdog, would you eat yourself? I know I would!!!"

by TheRiot4Life on Sep 14, 2007 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Marmol as closer?

I can't help but think Marmol should be the closer on this team. Dempster seems like he is "off and on" too much, especially in close games. Thoughts?

by bryanpeabody on Sep 14, 2007 11:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

My thought is...

we've pretty much beat this topic to death. Lou isn't going to make that change this year. The end.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 14, 2007 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, seriously...

let's talk about something original.

What does everyone think about moving Soriano down in the batting order and letting Theriot lead off?

by eamuscatuli1881 on Sep 14, 2007 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I seriously hope that was being sarcastic

about being original! That issue has been beaten to death, revived, rebeaten to death, rinse, lather, repeat as unnecessary, etc.

Soriano is in the leadoff spot period. People need to take that first step and accept that they have been denying the fact he is staying in that spot. Recognizing it and accepting it are the first 2 steps. Come on, you can do it, come on! Gooooooood!!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 14, 2007 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, very much so.

I thought it was dripping wet with sarcasm. Next time I will include the </sarcasm> to remove all doubt.

by eamuscatuli1881 on Sep 14, 2007 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

phew

we can hide the corked bats now ;)

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 14, 2007 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm hoping to get everyone's opinion on...

Britney's performance @ the MTV awards.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 14, 2007 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

you are completely insane

Distracted. That's a funny word. I wonder if anyone ever gets tracted.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 14, 2007 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Prove it! Do ahead...I dare you!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 14, 2007 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Safety

I hope you had the safety when your wife took that picture.

Distracted. That's a funny word. I wonder if anyone ever gets tracted.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 14, 2007 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sloppy

make that "the safety ON"

Distracted. That's a funny word. I wonder if anyone ever gets tracted.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 14, 2007 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What the heck are you even talking about?

That is my wife!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 14, 2007 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh

She needs a shave and some breast implants

Distracted. That's a funny word. I wonder if anyone ever gets tracted.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 14, 2007 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

re: Prove it! Do ahead...I dare you!

This guy looks kinda like Dave Grohl of Nirvana/Foo Fighters fame.

Carlos Marmol, you complete me.

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 14, 2007 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That was my 1st thought

upon seeing that photo!

You may run like mays but you hit like $#!%

by cubsirishkillme on Sep 14, 2007 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

is that george harrison?

"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 14, 2007 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

re: Yeah, seriously...

Or how 'bout Matt Murton? Good player? Bad player? No one's posted a word about this guy all season!

Carlos Marmol, you complete me.

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 14, 2007 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What I really want to know...

...is whatever happened to Lee's power? Sure, he's hitting a lot of doubles, but he's "not very clutch" and he's not hitting home runs. Is it his wrist still?

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Sep 14, 2007 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

We also need to put the Soriano as leadoff hitter topic to bed as well. Maybe Al should create a permanenty thread just for those two topics.

Distracted. That's a funny word. I wonder if anyone ever gets tracted.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 14, 2007 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sloppy

that would be permanent, not permanenty (sounds like a chewing gum flavor)

Distracted. That's a funny word. I wonder if anyone ever gets tracted.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 14, 2007 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

new gum brand?

Try the new permanenty persistent pesty peckers!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 14, 2007 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sure

Try the new gum with that special HGH boost when you need to come up with that big hit. Permanently persistent pesty peckers gum, the choice for the St. Louis Cardinals.

Distracted. That's a funny word. I wonder if anyone ever gets tracted.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 14, 2007 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

there ya go!

now we're talking dadgummit!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 14, 2007 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eyre

I am sorry I gave you the Ohman treatment last night (only trusting him vs lefties).

by californiachicagoan on Sep 14, 2007 11:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I just learned a sick fact about Eyre

You're not alone there in feeling quite nauseous and frantically seeking out a brown paper bag to breathe into when Eyre came out to the mound. However, this lil sick fact will make me feel more at ease now (but I'll still have the Maalox close by) - since the All Star Break, Eyre has a 1.02 ERA.

I don't know what bit Marmol, Wuertz, Howry, and Eyre, but we need to find it and make it bite Oh-no-man (someone else came up with it and I love it so much, I'm stealing it!). No, in fact, we need to make it swallow him up whole!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 14, 2007 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The problem with accepting...

...the redemption of Scott Eyre is that it's largely a mirage. Sure, he's only given up 26 earned runs this season, which given where he started out at sounds pretty good. But he's given up 26 inherited runs this season as well, which isn't exactly good for a reliever. And if I'm reading ESPN's charts right, he's only stranded eight runners all season.

You might use him to burn up an inning here or there down the stretch, but please to all that you hold dear do not use him in a leverage situation.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Sep 14, 2007 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

re: The problem with accepting...

D'oh -- thanks for the perspective. Just outta curiousity, how many inherited runners has he given up since the All Star break? All apologies for not looking it up myself.

Carlos Marmol, you complete me.

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 14, 2007 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah...

I wouldn't trust him in a leverage (or hostage) situation either. But I would feel better with him in a situation like last night where we had a 3-4 run lead. In a 1-2 run lead, hmm...no go there sir!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 14, 2007 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eyre's numbers

have changed dramatically in one area alone. He is giving up half as many hits per inning as before. As a result his slugging average against has dropped from .545 to .262.

Too say that he has thrown fewer fat pitches would be a correct assessment.

Right now every pitch and every play must be the most important of your career. Act like it or sit down.

by tharr on Sep 14, 2007 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I disagree...

last year two of the brightest spots of the team were Eyre and Howry. This year I'd put Howry in before Eyre, but they've shared a great second half. Early in the year it seemed like the bullpen liability, but it's turned into a strong part.

A bullpen of Marmol, Howry, Eyre, Dempster, and (yes) Wood I would take with the game on the line, Wuertz if two other pitchers were ready, and Trachsel/Marshall for long relief would suit us well in the playoffs.

Yee hah! This is exciting stuff.

"I never take a game home with me. I leave it in some bar along the way." -Bob Lemon, from Sweet Lou

by section229beer on Sep 14, 2007 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

'76 what a great year

Records are meant to be broken!

by rmonday557 on Sep 14, 2007 11:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Lou's gamble

paid off last night bringing back Trachsel on short rest. Now he's got the "ace" pitching the opener of this big series with the Cards. It's nice to have a manager who knows how to put his team in the best position to succeed. Now it's up to Carlos. Let's hope Big Z can get out of the 6th tonight and finally start earning his money.

by cubsbak on Sep 14, 2007 12:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

REGARDING changing roles in September

September is a time to concentrate on executing on the roles established for a number of reasons.

The biggest one is that if the change in role fails where do you go from there? Meaning...moving Soriano for you stat heads could mean that Soriano goes into a slump...or Theriot does not produce at critical games....Marmol closing there is the same notion....

The roles for this team have been established:
Soriano is a power hitting lead off man, his leg winged a bit. Theriot is the number two and Lee the number three. Moving Floyd and Ramirez is not a change in role as they are RBI men, DeRo, Kendall and Jones are one step above platoon players.

Now let me ask one more question, how do you improve 53-40 since June 2nd that since that date is the best team in the NL....

Milw-09-23-98--Brown in for defense--bases loaded--flyball--HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!NO NO NO, cubs lose 8-7

by Ivy Walls on Sep 14, 2007 12:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

this is...

exactly what I've been saying...there has been what seems like a daily occurrence of heated debates regarding Soriano/Theriot and Dempster/Marmol...

Hopefully, these debates fall off and start back up in December or so, that's when roles can be redefined, not now...

Thanks Ivy, for explaining this so well...

"If you were a hotdog, would you eat yourself? I know I would!!!"

by TheRiot4Life on Sep 14, 2007 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

concentrate on executing on the roles established

Word.

"Welcome to Lou's BLUE Crew....Cubbies in '07"

by Bluelou on Sep 14, 2007 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How to improve?

Just one thing. Be consistent. This team has had an emotional Richter Scale of 7.5. One day we're hitting homers and then we're not. One day the starters are going deep, then they're not. One day Zambrano is Cy Young, the next he's Cy Ko.

I pray that we've turned the corner but until I see the final 2 weeks play out, my rosary beads won't leave my hands.

Right now every pitch and every play must be the most important of your career. Act like it or sit down.

by tharr on Sep 14, 2007 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cy Ko?

That's pretty funny :)

This team has turned so many corners this year that they've practically screwed themselves into the ground.

Distracted. That's a funny word. I wonder if anyone ever gets tracted.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 14, 2007 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Drink from the cup....

by 1060 W Addison on Sep 14, 2007 1:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Just another reason to hate him...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 14, 2007 1:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Bad photoshops make sloppy arguments

Though you may hate him, Favre's the best quarterback the NFC has ever seen, if not all the NFL.

Why not hate Rex Grossman instead? The Bears could have twice as many superbowl rings if it weren't for him.

"I never take a game home with me. I leave it in some bar along the way." -Bob Lemon, from Sweet Lou

by section229beer on Sep 14, 2007 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ummm...

Ever hear of Joe Montanta? Steve Young?

visit the mindful mission.

by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2007 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

D'uhhhh...

Add to your list Jerry Rice. Hell, Favre's never even had a john taylor.

But, pay attention... after the iron man streak fell hard, you can watch him amount most victories and touchdowns.

The best thing about Joe, Montana is the scenery.

"I never take a game home with me. I leave it in some bar along the way." -Bob Lemon, from Sweet Lou

by section229beer on Sep 14, 2007 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Montana

won 2 super bowls while Jerry Rice was still in college and 4 overall. 'Nuff said.

by cubsbak on Sep 14, 2007 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Much better recap

http://www.sports-library.com/index.php/Cubs_1998_Season-Game_32

If you feel something is missing to the recap, feel free to add on.

by Ivychat on Sep 14, 2007 1:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Terry Mulholland starting

in place of Trachsel.

He will get a start in Florida, where he has a condo nearby in Hallendale.

It is SEPTEMBER, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Sep 14, 2007 1:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

LMAO

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 14, 2007 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

OT question for you, Al.

I'm bored today at work, so I'm listening to the 23-22 Phillies-Cubs classic from 1979. You shared a scorecard the other day from a long time ago and I was thinking... I was wondering if you were there, if you kept score, and whether or not your scorecard made it through the whole game. I'd be interested to see what that looked like after the game.

by eamuscatuli1881 on Sep 14, 2007 2:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Unfortunately...

... I was not at that game -- I had a daytime job during that year and didn't go to many weekday games until the summer.

However, I think Mike was there. I'll ask him, and if he was, I'll scan his card and post it.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 14, 2007 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cool, thanks.

That was kinda fun to listen to. It was the Phillies broadcast with Harry Kalas, pretty neat stuff. It was a first for me, seeing as I wasn't alive to see it first hand!

by eamuscatuli1881 on Sep 14, 2007 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Uh..oh..Riot fans...

looks like one of ryan's family members (brother?) is on the Terrebonne Parish Most Wanted List.

-->http://www.tpso.net/mwanted.php

scroll down or search the page for "Theriot"

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 14, 2007 2:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Was this really necessary?

I mean, come on...

by eamuscatuli1881 on Sep 14, 2007 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd have to say...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 14, 2007 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

now that is an ugly shirt

definitely the wrong color for this weekend.

i don't want to offend, but whatever is the synonym for the non-homosexual, popular meaning of the word "gay" seems appropriate here.

by anormal on Sep 14, 2007 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Happy?

We will see some beautiful things come the fall.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Sep 14, 2007 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

sure

i'm happy that the cubs are in first place.

by anormal on Sep 14, 2007 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How about "Fabulous!"

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 14, 2007 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol!

by anormal on Sep 14, 2007 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wish the Cubs surfed the net

This posted over on the other bcb:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=662005

They call that journalism? What a joke.

"We're going to turn this team around 360 degrees." -Jason Kidd

by tony412 on Sep 14, 2007 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

No

It's not journalism. It's an editorial, just the opinions of a sportswriter supporting a team that has seen a once big division lead disappear. It's called "whistling past the graveyard."

Distracted. That's a funny word. I wonder if anyone ever gets tracted.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 14, 2007 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope

the Cubs don't need any outside inspiration to go out and kick butt, but this would do it for me.

"We're going to turn this team around 360 degrees." -Jason Kidd

by tony412 on Sep 14, 2007 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

There's a lot of things "C" on the cap

can stand for. Let's hope next year it's "champs"

On a side note, Loyola's baseball team wears a big gold "L" on their caps. I've never been very comfortable with that one.

"I never take a game home with me. I leave it in some bar along the way." -Bob Lemon, from Sweet Lou

by section229beer on Sep 14, 2007 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It took him all those words(500+)

to say absolutely nothing.

We will see some beautiful things come the fall.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Sep 14, 2007 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow, that seems unneccessary

And why shouldn't the Brewers be contending? After all, they've been developing their team for 25 years.

by Mapmaker on Sep 14, 2007 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Your gonna get all worked up...

over an article written my Mike Hunt? Gimme a break. This guy, however, is someone to be reckoned with.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 14, 2007 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ouch

I'd keep my balls away from that guy.

"We're going to turn this team around 360 degrees." -Jason Kidd

by tony412 on Sep 14, 2007 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

actually

i sort of agree with the idea of soriano as selfish, though perhaps "fragile" would be a better word for it. it seems that he has to be made comfortable in order to perform well.

by anormal on Sep 14, 2007 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Regarding Wednesday's cup check victory...

I missed any discussion on Lou's outburst after the final DP. That's the second most animated I've seen him this year-- lots of gesturing and mf-bombing.

Hmmm... something about Cubs playing after a Lounatic episode...

"I never take a game home with me. I leave it in some bar along the way." -Bob Lemon, from Sweet Lou

by section229beer on Sep 14, 2007 3:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

RE: Regarding Wednesday's cup check victory...

Wilbon was saying Lou was ranting against "the curse" in rather colorful language following the DP to end it. Sort of a "take that you mf-er!".

PERRY!!!!

by Goat Whisperer on Sep 14, 2007 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Article

I read that stupid article this morning and emailed that idiot about it. Heres what I wrote

"Youre an idiot, just another dumb journalist making light of the Cubs to gain attention to himself. WAY TO GO BUDDY, you did it.

Next article you write Im sure will be about the Packers Bears rivalry and how the Bears are selfish. You are a dolt....take your fishing pole and get back in the woods you North of the Border idiot. Don't forget to get some cheese on the way"

Hey.....Cubs win!!!

by Hammer on Sep 14, 2007 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

This kind of article usually backfires.

Remember early in the season when LaRussa lashed at the St Louis press for a similar article denigrating the Cubs before a big series? LaRussa said the taunting and ridiculing of the Cubs was counterproductive and would only serve as motivator to his opponents. Maybe Ned Yost should do the same with this Milwaukee columnist because he may have just written the perfect motivator for the Cubs to use the next two weeks.

BTW, this columnist doesn't have to look at Chicago to find a team of chokers. There's one nearby in Milwaukee. They squandered a big lead in the division and are now in second place.

by Fraggin Judge on Sep 14, 2007 4:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Let's remember

that Hunt wrote his article for Brewers fans. If we were in the same situation and Miles or Sully or Rogers wrote a similar article, we wouldn't have a problem with it.

Who cares what another team or its fans write or think? It's all about results. Either we get to the playoffs or we don't. It's all on the team's performance. I plan on focusing on the games alone. No trash talk necessary.

Right now every pitch and every play must be the most important of your career. Act like it or sit down.

by tharr on Sep 14, 2007 5:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs