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Open Thread: Cubs vs. Reds, Wednesday 9/19, 7:05 CT

Here's the guy who's been the real ace of the Cub pitching staff all year long. He has made thirty-one starts, and except for the June 10 game in Atlanta where he was ejected in the first inning, he's thrown six or more innings in 23 of the other 30. Impressive.

Now, the Cubs are counting on him to continue the best season of his major league career, on short rest for the first time in four years.

I think he can handle it. Just win, baby.

 Today's Starting Pitchers
Ted Lilly
 T. Lilly
Cubs
vs. Tom Shearn
 T. Shearn
Reds
15-7 W-L 3-0
3.82 ERA 4.15
160 SO 12
53 BB 9
26 HR 4
vs. Cin -- vs. Cubs
Lilly has started three times against the Reds this year, with a 4.00 ERA (just above his season record) and a 1-1 record. The win was a fine 7-inning, three-hit, one-run, one-walk, nine-strikeout performance in Cincinnati in the second game of the season on April 4. Eleven days later at Wrigley Field, he threw well but lost 1-0. The Reds hit him pretty hard at Wrigley Field on August 15; he got a no-decision in a Cubs loss. He's managed to handle Brandon Phillips, a Cub nemesis (0-for-10).

Shearn's a feel-good story of sorts; he's spent eleven years in the minor leagues, playing for: GCL Astros, Auburn, Quad Cities, Kissimmee, Round Rock, New Orleans, Chattanooga, Louisville, Chattanooga (again) and Louisville (again) before getting what appeared to be a courtesy call-up this September. He's 3-0, but the 4.15 ERA includes nine walks in 26 IP and four HR allowed. The Cubs need to hit this guy early and often.

Finally, we learn today this from Len & Bob's WGN-TV blog:

One big change this year - any wild card playoff game, plus the division series, and the National League Championship Series will be airing on TBS. THERE IS NO OVER THE AIR television of these games. Unlike previous years, where WGN would air ESPN's version of some of these games, if you or someone you know cannot watch TBS, you will not be able to watch these games. This decision was made by Major League Baseball and TBS. WGN and the Cubs had nothing to do with it.
Now how freaking stupid is that?? Cable/satellite does not have 100% coverage, not yet, anyway. Why would they want to cut off people who don't have cable/satellite? They could have made money by selling the rights to these games to over-the-air stations, at least in the markets of the participating teams. So not only have they cost themselves money, they are really going to piss off a segment of the playoff teams' fans. About what I'd expect from Bud Selig's non-leadership in the broadcast arena.

As far as tonight's game is concerned, it was initially only on WCIU, which would have meant it could have only been seen within a four-block radius of my house. ESPN has picked up the game (not sure what announcing team we'll be "treated" to), so the rest of you can see it. Also check at today's Mediacenter link.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2006 version)

MLB.com Gameday for the Brewers/Astros game (7:05 CT start)

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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we'll cross that bridge when we get there
I rely on MLBTV for Cubs games, and I believe all playoff and WS games are blacked out anyway, so I don't think it'll matter to me. However, me not being selfish makes me mad that they'd do something like that.

by CubFaninNY on Sep 19, 2007 4:06 PM CDT   0 recs

Actually...
... I wonder if they WILL be on MLB.TV. That'd be a way for them to make extra $ from people who don't have cable/satellite.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 19, 2007 4:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ding Ding Ding!! Winner!
That's the logical move MLB would make. The love $.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 19, 2007 4:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

If I remember correctly
last year MLB offered a post-season subscription for mlb.tv viewers. Can't remember how much it cost though.

by montanacubby on Sep 19, 2007 4:52 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

If past precedent holds
the games will be available on mlb.tv only to people living outside of North America.

Maybe TBS would agree to allow mlb.tv coverage in North America, since it would increase their ad coverage.  But I wouldn't count on it.

I agree that this is all very stupid.

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh77 on Sep 19, 2007 4:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The dreaded TBS
I'm one of the subset of fans who wouldn't be able to watch the game at home, at least without shelling out for cable, which I otherwise don't need or want.

I'd love to sit and watch Cubs games with my 4-year-old; I guess I'll take him to a bar with me.

Thanks for everything, Bud.

Drifting ... drifting ... foul.

by mlf on Sep 19, 2007 5:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Go Ted!
We'll win this game.  We'll bring the lumber tonight.

by cubbiechris on Sep 19, 2007 4:10 PM CDT   0 recs

My Initial thought
after reading this post was that you were talking about the other Ted.... Turner... TBS... Lol.  Thought you were being passively dismissive of everyone else's thoughts on the postseason TV schedules.
Bulls 402 ta zip... but Micheal Jordan will be held to under 200 points. - Todd O'Connor

by Lou In Blue on Sep 19, 2007 4:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

third!
------ TheRiot Squad ------

by RightFieldSucks on Sep 19, 2007 4:10 PM CDT   0 recs

Not trying to put
the cart before the horse I'm really glad I get TBS. But that is really stupid to have the games only available to a certain percentage of fans.

Very happy that ESPN is carrying the game tonight other wise I wouldn't be able to see it.

GO CUBS!!!

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 19, 2007 4:12 PM CDT   0 recs

Great
With the playoffs exclusively on TBS how many times do you think they'll talk about Bartman or the Zambrano-Barrett fight every game?

by NDCub on Sep 19, 2007 4:16 PM CDT   0 recs

Announcers
Steve Phillips the ex-Mets GM will be one of the so-called analysts tonight. On ESPN the other night, he said that he was going to Chicago to do the game. He mentioned the main announcer, but I don't recall his name.

by ceegeewow on Sep 19, 2007 4:17 PM CDT   0 recs

We need offense
Making our pitchers pitch shutouts or 1 or two run games is really tough. We have a team capable of scoring four or more runs a game yet we just can't seem to do it on a consistent basis.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by tucsoncubsfan on Sep 19, 2007 4:22 PM CDT   0 recs

GO CUBS
Ill be 7 rows behind the Cubs bullpen.  I got words to OHMAN.  AL said it just win baby
Hey.....Cubs win!!!

by Hammer on Sep 19, 2007 4:24 PM CDT   0 recs

cart ... horse
Not to be a sour-puss, but let's worry about the friggin' t.v. problems if/when we need to.
(Of course, you know I'm gonna be in the online waiting room on Sunday for playoff tickets for a team that could very well be in second place.)

by rob9802 on Sep 19, 2007 4:24 PM CDT   0 recs

If you are
responding to my post I did say I wasn't trying to put the cart before the horse. The tv issue was bought up to be discussed. Spit the lemon drops out.
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 19, 2007 4:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Worried about Dunn
not to apply the jinx, but doesn't it seem like Adam Dunn--who always killed us--hasn't done anything against the Cubs in awhile? Hopefully Lilly won't get anything out over the plate.

by kentmeister on Sep 19, 2007 4:25 PM CDT   0 recs

WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT!!
Hes guaranteed a homerun now, guaranteed!!
Bring back the damn cowbell!

by CubsBall2202 on Sep 19, 2007 4:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

we are Dunn in!
he will hit for the psycho, errr...cycle now!

Go Cubs!!  We will just have to score more.

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Sep 19, 2007 5:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sorry
Guess I'm the new Bartman, Dunn just went deep. Oy

by kentmeister on Sep 19, 2007 8:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

erm
i dunno how to say this any other way, but we need a win tonight!!

Hopefully we win tonight and Milwaukee loses so that we are two up in the win column and the Brewers have to win tommorrow..

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 19, 2007 4:31 PM CDT   0 recs

Hope so!!!
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 19, 2007 4:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Why would they want to cut off people ...
who don't have cable/satellite?

Answer:
Because they can.

Aren't monopolies wonderful?

by JFCubFan on Sep 19, 2007 4:35 PM CDT   0 recs

Mike Royko
Good story about Royko today, which would have been his 75th birthday -

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-sully-oncubs19sep19,0,4592218.story

Especially like the grief he gave Sullivan who wrote the article !!!!

Go Cubs !!!

by coral on Sep 19, 2007 4:36 PM CDT   0 recs

Royko
One of my two* favorite Chicago columnists.  And I will always remember 1997 as a very sad year, because we lost not only Royko, but Charles Kuralt as well.  I still have a couple book-form compilations of his columns, and if I'm traveling for work there's a good chance I'll while away the inevitable "airport time" with one or the other.  (My ancient, battered copy of "Boss", the definitive tome on Hizzoner, Da Mare, no longer leaves the house!)

It still is amazing how many local columnists try to be "like Mike", and how far short most of them fall.  It takes more than being (1) old and (2) grouchy to make it work...

A quote, from an interview with Jon Winokur, printed in The Portable Curmudgeon:

JW: Alexander Solzhenitsyn observed that America has no binding ethic.  Do you agree?

MR: The Super Bowl unites us.  It's our substitute for war.  It's our one unifying element, more so than even the World Series.

JW: I thought baseball was the national pastime.

MR: Baseball isn't violent enough, and the games are too long.

We're missin' ya, Mike!

* Anybody else remember Sydney J. Harris?

by MN exile on Sep 19, 2007 5:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I wonder if the lineup has been posted yet
Lilly might be surprised he's batting 9th. :)

by cubfanwill on Sep 19, 2007 4:37 PM CDT   0 recs

is larussa still doing that experiment?
or has he finally gotten a brain?
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 19, 2007 4:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

TBS?
Does that mean the games will not be in HD at all?

by rgonzale on Sep 19, 2007 4:39 PM CDT   0 recs

Yes HD
Direct TV is just adding a bunch of HD channels, and TBS is one of them to be in HD
Cubs Win!! Cubs Win!

by Ihatethecards on Sep 19, 2007 4:49 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Rumor has it...
...that Comcast will be adding TBS-HD in some markets on 10/1.  I will be shocked if Chicago doesn't get it.

by jolietconvict on Sep 19, 2007 7:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Let's go Cubs...time to grow some....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 19, 2007 4:39 PM CDT   0 recs

Hey, they've got the cajones
they just need to let them "swagger" tonight ;)
"When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches."- Ron Santo

by BigJohnAZ on Sep 19, 2007 5:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sorry
cojones=cajones
"When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches."- Ron Santo

by BigJohnAZ on Sep 19, 2007 5:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Man - you sure are
corny!

Do you live in Nebraska or something?

It is SEPTEMBER, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Sep 19, 2007 5:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Is that
Richard Simmons? ;-)
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 19, 2007 6:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Why aren't the Reds starting their major leaguers?
Tim Shearn?  What a joke!

Oh wait, I'm not a Brewers fan.  I have been complaining about the 'stros all day.  Still think there is something fishy, but notice that Shearn was started against the Brewers AND the Cubs.  'stors strating minor league scrubs ONLY against the Brewers.  Nice to see the Reds have some class and know how to play the game.

Let's go Lilly!

by IllinoisCubs on Sep 19, 2007 4:42 PM CDT   0 recs

touche Houston
n/t
Cubs 2-12 one run games 04-05/07 20-10 since.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 19, 2007 4:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

why should Houston hate us
they took us over in 2004? In 2005 they beat us alot and in 2006 well we pratically lost all our games at the end to give them a chance at winning the division..

hell even La Russa would have some class to start his regulars...

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 19, 2007 4:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

lineup...
soriano,lf
theriot,ss
lee,1b
floyd,rf
ramirez,3b
derosa,2b
jones,cf
soto,c
lilly,p

by seang03 on Sep 19, 2007 4:51 PM CDT   0 recs

not bad
like that lineup
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 19, 2007 4:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

agree
ramirez relaxes in the 5, and soto is in there, who in my opinion should have started last nite to give us a chance for a little more o-ffense

by philadelphiacub on Sep 19, 2007 5:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I wish you guys would have
bitched about the lineup.  Run scoring is usually inversely correlated to the bitching about Lou's lineup.  A bit of second-guessing too.

Let's get the bitching started...

Where's Pie?  We need his energy and defense.  Come on Lou!!

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Sep 19, 2007 5:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

There's so many things wrong with this lineup
don't even know where to begin.  There's no way they are going to score any run tonight!!!!
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Sep 19, 2007 6:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

and what would your managerial record be?
more than merely statistics in building a lineup.
Cubs 2-12 one run games 04-05/07 20-10 since.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 19, 2007 7:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He's being
sarcastic.
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 19, 2007 7:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

read the post I responded to
Sue knows what's going on
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Sep 19, 2007 7:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Repeating myself
If the Cubs get into the playoffs, they will have earned it. If not, it won't be the fault of the Astros as it wasn't the fault of the billygoat or Steve Bartman.

The whining about other teams is counterproductive and fruitless. Since the team was 8 games over .500, we've been 2 games under .500 since. If we look for reasons, the record speaks for itself.

It's not to late to go to Soto.

by tharr on Sep 19, 2007 4:59 PM CDT   0 recs

It won't be the fault of the Astros
but like I've said countless times today, you can't deny that it's at least a little fishy that neither of these guys started against the Cubs just 5 days ago.  Normally the commish's office makes phone calls about these kind of things, but it would be Bud Selig calling Cecil Cooper.

I won't talk about it after the game today, but with no games going on, a slow work day, and the Cubs tied for first, what else am I going to talk about?

by IllinoisCubs on Sep 19, 2007 5:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you could also mention
that the brewers are pitching a guy with a 5.5 era and a losing record (dave bush) and since the 'stros have scored 1 run in 2 games, they are due to light it up.  And i do agree it seems a little fishy that the rookies didn't pitch against the cubs 5 days ago, i'm just not ready to concede a brewer win that easily because i dislike them so much

by philadelphiacub on Sep 19, 2007 5:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

not to be a pessimist
but you forgot to mention Lilly is also pitching on 3 days rest
( well 3 days and 7 hours since he started a 12PM game on Saturday) and he threw 107 pitches. I think Lilly can handle it better than Z but it I have never liked doing this unless you literally had the season on the line for one game.
"It's the Cubbies. There's always a vibe. It's the greatest vibe in baseball." Greg Maddux on Cub fan's optimism even after the 06 debacle.

by jessica on Sep 19, 2007 5:03 PM CDT   0 recs

2nd paragraph of AL's story
n/t
big leaguers all look down on us because of all that goat curse fuss maybe we should end that silly curse today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KMuC-JUlEY

by joeschmitt on Sep 19, 2007 5:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Short Rest
Is one of the reasons for the Z/Lilly short rest to ensure that Marquis would not have to pitch on Saturday (which is Yom Kippur for the uninformed)?
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Sep 19, 2007 5:16 PM CDT   0 recs

I doubt it.
Marquis has said in the past he woud pitch if needed
on Yom Kippur. The reason for the short rest was to avoid
Traschel who would have been the only available pitcher and to
set the rotation up better but like I said in the previous post
this STILL leaves Sept. 29 as a kind of Doomsday game with Harang again vs ?
I would rather have bit the bullett last night and started Traschel
It would have been tantamount to conceding THAT game (kind of like the Astros are doing these days) in order to have better shot at other games like Sept. 29.
"It's the Cubbies. There's always a vibe. It's the greatest vibe in baseball." Greg Maddux on Cub fan's optimism even after the 06 debacle.

by jessica on Sep 19, 2007 5:38 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed.....
The 9-1 record after losses is awesome.  He is the ace.

by Peoria Matt on Sep 19, 2007 5:26 PM CDT   0 recs

That would make big Z the ace!
He knows how well Lilly pitches after a loss and Z does whatever he can to help his team! :)

by GoCubbies34 on Sep 19, 2007 5:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Allright!! Soto get's the start! I'm ecstatic!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 19, 2007 5:43 PM CDT   0 recs

Are you that polygamists guy
who's on trial right now?
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Sep 19, 2007 6:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No Sheet.
It is SEPTEMBER, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Sep 19, 2007 6:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What thread count are you looking for?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 19, 2007 6:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Good one Santo!
What am I going to do when the season ends???

by Saratoga on Sep 19, 2007 6:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

These have LOTS of words on them.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 19, 2007 6:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you're on a roll
Dinosaurs? "Didn't exist. You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them." -Carl Everett

by NDcubsfan on Sep 19, 2007 6:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Jersey
My Ryan Theriot jersey came today!  It might be just the good luck charm they need.  In fact, since we really need it today, I'll wear my Cubs boxers, CHICAGO t-shirt, Theriot Jersey, ITS GONNA HAPPEN bracelet and 2003 NL Central Champs hat.  If that can't make a difference, I got nothin.
------ TheRiot Squad ------

by RightFieldSucks on Sep 19, 2007 6:27 PM CDT   0 recs

Everything is fine except
the 2003 Central Champs hat. Bad memories, there. I wouldn't sprinkle that Dusty karma around anymore.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 19, 2007 6:45 PM CDT   0 recs

Anyone know why...
I'm getting the ESPNews feed on ESPN instead of the game?  What the hell is going on?
2007 Badger Football - 1-0

by Schwa on Sep 19, 2007 7:05 PM CDT   0 recs

Me too....
I'm in champaign, does anyone know whats going on?

by cronoj on Sep 19, 2007 7:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's 'on' a Chicago-area station
Thus, that station (even if you can't actually GET the channel) has 'preference', which means ESPN has to blackout the game in that station's market (Southern Wisconsin on down).  Same thing that happens when WGN and ESPN both air the game - you get ESPN News instead.

by NTNgod on Sep 19, 2007 7:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Um......
why don't I get the game on ESPN. Long story short... WHY THE FUCK CAN'T I SEE THE GAME!
"Losing is my only fear"

by Unique on Sep 19, 2007 7:06 PM CDT   0 recs

Whats up Cub fans!!
"Chicago Cubs fans are ninety percent scar tissue."

by thehawk on Sep 19, 2007 7:06 PM CDT   0 recs

Anyone else
have ESPN unavailable to them tonight? I have Direct TV and it says this program is not available in my area. Damn them!!!!
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 19, 2007 7:06 PM CDT   0 recs

I'm in Central Illinois
and no ESPN here either.  must be a blackout tonight which SUCKS!

by JakeH on Sep 19, 2007 7:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Big time
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 19, 2007 7:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Same here...
...and it's not like there's a WCIU feed anywhere NEAR the Iowa border. (There's not even WCIU in half of Chicago!)
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Sep 19, 2007 7:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Bastards!!
Direct TV is leaving me sitting here on the phone.
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

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