Open Thread: Cubs vs. Pirates, Friday 9/21, 1:20 CT

GO CUBS !!!!!!!

A day of rest should have done wonders.

by coral on Sep 21, 2007 9:19 AM CDT reply actions

oh boy...

...i am leaving work early today so that i can watch the game on EI. it is my understanding that a tape of harry's final rendition of tmottbg will be played.

i anticipate i'll have goosebumps!

"If you'da been thinkin you wouldn't 'a thought that." ~~ "Squints" Palledorous

by rm463 on Sep 21, 2007 9:21 AM CDT reply actions

Can't wait until game time!
Walking by the ballpark on my way to work this morning there was already a large line waiting to get tickets. Very much a playoff atmosphere and this is at 7 in the morning!
Hopefully the Cubbies play well tonight and Marquis has good command as well.

by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 9:37 AM CDT reply actions

GO CUBS GO!!! Part II

Well... I'm on my way to Arizona for business for the next 7 days. I hope the Cubs are sitting nicely atop the division when I return!

Will chime in from the road, when I have the chance.

1-RUN GAMES = 23-22 | EXTRA INNINGS = 2-8 | HOME = 41-37 | updated on 9/20

by SackMan on Sep 21, 2007 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions

SackMan

Have a good trip.
I too hope the Cubs are sitting nicely atop the division!
Wouldn't that be a nice gift to return too!?

by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions

Zona representin

Hey Sack I'm in Phoenix, if you're in the area at all and want to hook up to watch a Cubbie game and a cold 1 let me know. Who knows, maybe a little of my vast knowledge of baseball will even rub off on ya.

Either way, enjoy AZ you're coming out at the right time, only supposed to be upper 90's for a week.

by lemon20pie on Sep 21, 2007 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions

Good times

I hope we all have a good time no matter what. This is what being a cubs fan is all about. A hell of a lot better then the last 3 years.

I have the feel the Cubs have the momentum and good things will happen this weekend.

6-01-2007 the Cubs begin to rise. They will never look back.

by Scott G F on Sep 21, 2007 9:41 AM CDT reply actions

The Braves

rookie pitcher did a favor for us last night. This weekend is a key to the season. We take care of business and the good Braves pitchers take care of their business and we'll be in good shape!

This is Harry Carray, goodbye from Wrigley Field and So Long Everybody.

by mrcubsfan on Sep 21, 2007 9:47 AM CDT reply actions

Actually Bennett first appeared as a Brewer

I think 2004 and then had major surgery and now has finally returned to the bigs sticking it to his old organization that cut him lose.

Well touche is baseball mantra.....

Cubs 2-12 one run games 04-05/07 21-10 since.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions

Crappy pitchers

I was curious about how many bad pitchers the Brewers have been facing lately, so I looked it up. It's pretty bad (follow the link if you want your eyes to bleed). Luckily, the Cubs somehow gained 2 games over that stretch. Good job, crappy rookie pitchers!!!
It's nice to see random no-name pitchers help the Cubs after kicking the snot out of us the last 2-3 years. ;)

rain delay theatre

by rob9802 on Sep 21, 2007 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions

I just Piniella-ed

every Cubs, Cards, and Sox fan I know. I don't even know of any Brewer fans this far south of Chicago. Some will appreciate it, other will not, bet you can guess who will not :-)

fly your W flag Cubs fans!

by love the ivy on Sep 21, 2007 9:51 AM CDT reply actions

This is it!

By tonight, we'll have a 2 1/2 game lead!

[b]Go Cubs Go![/b]

Feel the Brees.

by SouthernBrees on Sep 21, 2007 9:51 AM CDT reply actions

I'm not sure of its legality

(so I may or may not have used it), but SopCast streams MLB games for every game played. It can do the same for football and basketball(when it comes back) too.

"We are going to light up the SB Nation server farm like a Christmas tree." - cwyers

by NittanyCub on Sep 21, 2007 10:01 AM CDT reply actions

LOL

LOVE the potential disclaimer there!! :)

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions

re: I'm not sure of its legality

Legality aside, I'm wondering whether any spyware/adware comes along with the software you must download to view the games.

Assuming you've used SopCast, have you had any problems?

"It's big because it knocks them out of semi-contention." Jason Marquis referring to the St. Louis Cardinals on 9/16/07

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions

Malware

I haven't noticed any. I downloaded and installed it, but I only used it once. I had a bad feeling about it (not the legality, although there was that, but more because I thought I might be compromising my computer). I'm a developer, so I notice performance issues pretty quickly. I also check running processes on my machine regularly and have not seen anything out of the ordinary.

Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 21, 2007 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions

re: Malware

Thanks for the feedback! I must say I'm rather tempted here...

"It's big because it knocks them out of semi-contention." Jason Marquis referring to the St. Louis Cardinals on 9/16/07

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions

Nothing's been wrong at my end.

However, you probably know a ton more about computers than I do and spot problems faster. But I've been using it for about a year and a half, and it works great. It does have ~5 minute delay between real time and stream, though

Granted, I have Norton and ad-aware, and run spybot checks every other week just to make sure.

Here's the schedule for all the games, and their respective channels that you can use if you have it. If it's not legal, then I wouldn't know anything about it though. My friend told me about it, whom I can't really remember

"We are going to light up the SB Nation server farm like a Christmas tree." - cwyers

by NittanyCub on Sep 21, 2007 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions

SopCast

I've also installed it and have not noticed any glaring problems from spyware, though it's difficult to tell where junk comes from nowadays. I've only used it once for the Cubs (to watch the end of a game) as I primarily use it for the Bears since I don't live in Chicago and I can't afford NFL Gameday ticket.

It is a grey area: if a normal person has to pay to receive the service, then getting it "free" on SopCast is like stealing. I don't mind using Gameday for baseball games, but football has more action and players involved on each play.

I hope the NFL can shake off its alliance with DirecTV and make games available over the net. It's going to be awhile before that happens. MLB was never captive to a single satellite provider.

Pie, Fontenot, Theriot and Soto up the middle ... yippie oh, oh, oh!

by SpudV on Sep 21, 2007 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions

re: SopCast

Yeah, like so many questionable things online, it is a grey area.

I mean, I pay to receive Comcast cable, in part to be able watch many/most Cubs games. But I can't access my cable box here at work, so am I really stealing to watch the games via SopCast? Technically, I've paid to watch the game on TV and, presumably, MLB will receive some of that revenue from Comcast. So they're not losing revenue if I watch the game on SopCast.

I'm probably committing some glaring ethical mistake here, though...

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions

In the wise words of Chris Rock(where did HE go?)

"Sometimes, I just like to steal."

"We are going to light up the SB Nation server farm like a Christmas tree." - cwyers

by NittanyCub on Sep 21, 2007 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions

Yes! The great urban philosopher.......

....Mr. Rock also said "I'm not saying it's right-I'm just saying I understand." Which works for the Sopcast situation and many of the gray areas in morality, ethics and law. A genius.

"Baseball is like church- many attend, few understand." ~ Leo Durocher

by The Lip on Sep 21, 2007 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions

Interesting point....

You did pay Comcast to watch the game so you should be able to watch the game. From an ethical standpoint, you are right. From a legal standpoint, Sopcast hasn't purchased the rights to broadcast the game. In essance, you are not stealing from Comcast, Sopcast is stealing from Comcast.

How's that for some sophistry?

Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 21, 2007 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions

re: Interesting point....

Well, that makes me feel better. Let Comcast worry about it! :-)

Which inspires me to ask: Why doesn't Comcast offer its subscribers Internet access to certain channels/programs? (Uh, namely, baseball games!) I'm guessing a lot of us would take advantage of this service. And I'd even consider paying a reasonable extra amount on my cable bill to be able to access Cubs game via the Web.

Of course, they'd probably want to charge an arm and leg for such a service...

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions

CyberCyclist is right......

..Sopcast is the one doing the stealing. This is exactly why I can do my shopping at pawn shops and out of the back of the trucks operated by various "wandering merchants" without guilt.

"Baseball is like church- many attend, few understand." ~ Leo Durocher

by The Lip on Sep 21, 2007 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions

Sopcast

I've used it a million times to watch english football (come on you Arsenal!), but never for MLB. This afternoon, I think I'll try Sopcast to watch the game. It's gotta be better than Gamecast, though Gamecast is faster than the mlb internet radio feed.

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions

It's not DirecTV

that's keeping Sunday Ticket off of cable (although I'm sure they're ecstatic about it) but rather Fox and CBS. It's the same issue that we have with blackouts of Saturday afternoon Fox baseball games of the week--the two networks want you to be watching their local broadcasts on their local channels with their local advertisers.

The networks didn't say anything when Sunday Ticket started on BUD systems and when it migrated to DirecTV because both were really small at the time and it wasn't worth arguing over. But now that DirecTV has become big, it's a major headache for them. DirecTV gets grandfathered in, but all the networks have said that the rights payments that they're willing to shell out for the NFL would go down substantially if Sunday Ticket were available on cable systems. (It's another reason why ST is so freakin' expensive. They're trying to keep the number of subscribers down.)

So far from the NFL wanting to "shake off" it's partnership with DirecTV, it's the NFL that's keeping it going. The NFL isn't "captive" to DirecTV, it's trying to please the broadcast networks.

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh Timmers on Sep 21, 2007 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions

Im getting audio but not video from Sopcast.

Is this normal?

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions

Usually not

Are you getting a good internet signal?

I posted a link up for the channels. If one of them doesn't work, you might wanna try using the other

"We are going to light up the SB Nation server farm like a Christmas tree." - cwyers

by NittanyCub on Sep 21, 2007 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions

If we win series...

...things ought to begin to resolve. Right now, with Atlanta doing us a huge favor by beating Milwaukee last night (and the irony of a former Milwaukee team beating the current one is not lost on me!) we are a very important game up in the loss column.

Can the Brewers win two more games over the ever-diminishing remainder of the season than the Cubs? That is now the question. And their climb gets steeper every time out.

For the first time in this anxiety-wracked season, I'm beginning to truly believe. Time is now on our side.

by MN exile on Sep 21, 2007 10:02 AM CDT reply actions

Baseball is always about the odds and anomolies

Cubs odds of taking 2 of 3 over the next three series against teams in last place or near the bottom (Cincinnati) over the course of the season is significant....Winning 6 of 9 and finishing 86-76 is a reasonable projection especially taken that over those 9 starts, 8 of them will be our front line pitchers where 2 of them have a .600 record where the club has won the games they have started. Those two pitchers will appear 4 times, thus one can state that the Cubs should expect a minimum of 3 wins from those 4 starts. Thus you are inquiring whether the Cubs can win 3 of 5 from the other three pitchers who have a .500 record. Based on the fact that the Cubs are playing sub.500 teams the odds are 70% plus that they should win 6 of 9.

Now the Brewers have a harder road to sow...they have to win 9 of ten to win outright and 8 of 10 to tie. They have to face two pitchers who have a combined .666 and .582 club winning percentage and they are facing those two on the road where the Brewers are sub .400. They then come home to face the Cardinals and then Padres, who will be putting forward Young & Maddux along with Tomko and Cassel. Brewers have the best home record,

But the odds of going 8 of 10 is now reduced to 25%, with each loss those odds reduce and the Cubs odds increase.

Now all that can be wiped away by the human factor on the field and why they play the games.

Cubs 2-12 one run games 04-05/07 21-10 since.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions

re: Baseball is always about the odds...

"Now all that can be wiped away by the human factor on the field and why they play the games."

Amen to that. Chicago Cubs: JUST PLAY HARD!!!

"It's big because it knocks them out of semi-contention." Jason Marquis referring to the St. Louis Cardinals on 9/16/07

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions

Baseball & odds

Exactly. Milwaukee's window is slowly and inexorably closing. If we play good ball at all they're going to need to run the table just to have a chance.

Like I said, I'm beginning to let myself believe. And looking forward to some October baseball I can actually care about - other than the usual hoping that the Yankees get beat, that is.

by MN exile on Sep 21, 2007 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions

You do know

it's only you, I, Al, and a handful of others who can note the irony. They are all so young here...it's like when our forefathers referred to the damn Gashouse Gang. Seemed like 100 years ago to us, then.

(The Braves were in Milwaukee???)

And if you told them the Braves were in Boston they'd probably think you were nuts.

Of course, this is all in good fun....

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 21, 2007 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions

Old folks' home...

Probably not a good idea to mention the Brooklyn Dodgers, K.C. (pre-Oakland) A's, Seattle Pilots (who later became the Brewers), NY (now SF) Giants, Washington Senators (who became the Twins), or any of the other baseball history.

And the old Negro Leagues - Ernie Banks playing for the K.C. Monarchs, for example...

Granted, much of that was before my time, still, it's one of the reasons I really do love baseball - it has an amazingly rich history.

Gray hair has some effects, I guess. At least I still have hair to get gray!

And the amount I learned from my maternal grandfather (and my mother!) about baseball - they took me to my first game in Wrigley,, I think I was 6 at the time. Or how my two nieces, both now Chicagoans, are both huge Cub fans.

Or the story I shot a few years back about Bob Casey, the late Metrodome PA announcer - his son was running the low home cam right next to him during the game.

Baseball nostalgia and family connections - maybe subjects for an off-day diary all their own.

by MN exile on Sep 21, 2007 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions

Things are beginning to look up

With the loss of the Brew Crew last night, we are back to the usual 1.5 game lead. Atlanta has been hot winning the last 4 and with smoltz and hudson on the mount the next 2 days, this could spell disaster for the brewers. If the cubbies, can pull 2 out of 3 this weekend, We should be sitting up 3 games by the time Tuesday rolls around. The Padres will playing for the division or the wildcard next weekend vs the Crew, the cards are starting to line up in our favor. All we got to do is win and do a little scoreboard watching.

Believe!!!

by mossey12 on Sep 21, 2007 10:17 AM CDT reply actions

Hopefully the Rockies will

sweep their series against the Padres which starts tonight. That way San Diego will be assured to be fighting for their playoff lives when they face the Brewers.

by Neifi Puppy on Sep 21, 2007 10:20 AM CDT reply actions

Interesting Factoid about the Rockies

They have a better record than the Cubs (81-72 vs 80-73) and are in third place in the NL West.

They can certainly kick a little Padre butt tonight if they want.

by JFCubFan on Sep 21, 2007 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions

On top of that...

...is the fact that Padre losses keep the Braves in the Wild Card chase for the time-being.

by michaelb on Sep 21, 2007 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions

Sweet

Will the Brewers know what hit them when it's over I wonder?

Go Braves!
Go Rockies!

G O C U B S ! ! !

by JFCubFan on Sep 21, 2007 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm very excited

for the game today. Hope the day off has them energized and ready to win. Hope Derrek enjoyed his filming of ER yesterday.

GO CUBS!!!

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 10:22 AM CDT reply actions

hopefully

they can get off to a good start in the series today. It would be a big confidence booster for the guys if they can knock around these Pittsburgh LHP a little bit.

AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Sep 21, 2007 10:27 AM CDT reply actions

First game of the series most important

Cubs are 17-4 (3 ties) when they win the first game of a series and have won only 5 series when they lost the first game, (their 5th being Houston last week).

Winning this game gives them a 70% of winning the series...it basically then is the difference in the odds of the Cubs losing the next two. Winning this game will put added pressure on the Brewers tonight, where a loss would put them down 2 in the loss column (provided Cubs win) and 3 in the win column.

Cubs 2-12 one run games 04-05/07 21-10 since.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions

Just to let you all know; Cubs vs. LHP'ers this yr

Much as been made of the Cubs current record against left handed starters now at 16-22, that said the record at the end of August was 12-20, so they have picked up 2 games on the ratio, going 4-2 to date in September).

---Back at the end of May the Cubs were 5-9....meaning they have won 11 games and lost 13 from the time their season has turned around.
----Meaning if they had won one more game against a left handed starter it would be .500. Cubs will face three lefties this weekend one a bona fide top of the rotation pitcher in Gorz....I think the Cubs will take the Pirates lefties win the series 2 of 3 moving their lefty record to 18-23...or 13-14 since late May.
-----They then are scheduled to face Willis and Olsen where I suspect they will split with them and finish the regular season 19-24 and since June--14-15...I don't consider it a problem.

Now cutting deeper the problem could be that Murton has started to contribute a little more and getting a right handed CF'er might also be a help.

Cubs 2-12 one run games 04-05/07 21-10 since.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 10:28 AM CDT reply actions

Stupid Article

By Trib's Van "Dick" about the worst ten losses by the Cubs this year. What a hoser. Article is totally pointless. He doesn't understand Cub Fans at all.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/cs-070920cubs,1,2640672.story

by coral on Sep 21, 2007 10:29 AM CDT reply actions

re: Stupid Article

Yup, I noticed this article, too, and, after realizing its purpose, opted not to read it. What an obnoxious, tasteless, snarky effort to undertake at this point in the season. Why not save an article like that to run in the event the Cubs don't win the division?

"It's big because it knocks them out of semi-contention." Jason Marquis referring to the St. Louis Cardinals on 9/16/07

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions

I didn't mind it so much

It just shows how far this team has come. However, I think the Trib now owes us a "Best ten wins" story by the Cubs.

by Neifi Puppy on Sep 21, 2007 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions

Another article to pass the time

I usually don't advocate ESPN mindless banter....but I found this exchange to be rather amusing.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=baseball/070920&sportCat=mlb&lpos=spotlight& amp;lid=tab3pos1

by Neifi Puppy on Sep 21, 2007 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions

So ridiculous.

The Red Sox fan makes me want to throw things. "Oh, my GM is an evil supervillain whose evil plan for world domination is working like clockwork! Oh, woe is me! I can't understand the interaction of small sample sizes and relief pitching!" And you work for the dominate sports media platform of our day and age? Disgusting.

Joe Sheehan is absolutely right -- Red Sox fans need to shut the hell up.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Sep 21, 2007 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions

Marquis Jersey

Are you sure that Marquis jersey isn't just a SOSA jersey w/ the name taken off? Hehe. Whatever works!

You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 10:37 AM CDT reply actions

Lineup

Per ESPN 1000
Soriano lf
DeRosa 2b
Lee 1b
Ramirez 3b
Murton rf
Soto c
Monroe cf
Theriot ss
Marquis p

by manny k on Sep 21, 2007 10:39 AM CDT reply actions

good to see Soto starting

by cubsnlinux on Sep 21, 2007 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions

Soto -- good, Monroe -- maybe

Hope Monroe begins to show his stuff. I like Soto in there.

by zevkalman on Sep 21, 2007 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions

sooooo due

Monroe is SO overdue for something to actually HAPPEN...

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions

Interesting choice to

start Monroe. But the Cubs acquired him because he can hit lefties. Time to earn that paycheck.

by Neifi Puppy on Sep 21, 2007 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions

re: Lineup

A lineup really, really wrought with righties. I'll go to war with this. It'd be nice to see Monroe get a big hit or two.

"It's big because it knocks them out of semi-contention." Jason Marquis referring to the St. Louis Cardinals on 9/16/07

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions

MONROE = N!EF!

Detriot's payback.

You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions

Monroe>Niefi

monroe is better than niefi because...
I) Monroe much more power than Nieifi.

B) Monroe is much less of a Defensive liability

iii) Monroe does not have a brother who is in a Mereingi band.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=s1NsnRAaYiw

e) Monroe is not being overused by a manager determined not to play any young players.

5) Neifi perez needed perfomance enhancing drugs to reach his level of suckitude.

The Astros just asked me to start their next game

by jds2 on Sep 21, 2007 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions

Monroe will make an impact this weekend

He has hit some screaming line drives, a dead pull hitter who will occassionally spray a line drive to right field. His defense is okay and in the small field at Wrigley not much of a liability.

Baseball has so much failure...that it is easy to diss on a player, that is why nine bat....or you have a bullpen.

Monroe is so much better than Neifi than the dripping sarcasm was really uncalled for.

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions

sorry

my intention was misread. I like the aquiring of monroe and I wasn't trying ot diss him just point out that he is by no means neifi

The Astros just asked me to start their next game

by jds2 on Sep 21, 2007 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions

Fair enough...

...I just have not like what I've seen from him (hustle-wise). Was talking to a Tigers fan about him, and he is apparently a VERY streaky player. Let's hope that he can get it going this afternoon with the wind blowing out.

You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions

You should be used to the streaky player...

if you've watched Soriano at all.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions

I wasn't aware that Neifi was...

a defensive liability. In fact, I thought his defense was the only remotely useful thing about him. I'd say Neifi is more valuable defensively than Monroe (who's basically a corner OF).

by SouthernCub on Sep 21, 2007 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions

You are correct....

...although Neifi probably has attrophied to the point where he is no longer defensively adequate as an everyday shortstop anymore.

Oh, and amphetamines.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Sep 21, 2007 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions

Isn't that Neifi* ?

Gotta be consistent!

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Sep 21, 2007 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions

This lineup

is probably close to what we'll have all weekend with all LHP against us. The only change I could see is kendall catching one or both of the remaining games.

Also, I think last night was the brewers best chance at getting a win vs. the braves...while I doubt they'll get swept I can't see them winning two of the next three.

The Astros just asked me to start their next game

by jds2 on Sep 21, 2007 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions

Lou is playing the HOT HANDS

Besides Soriano's power this month...where he is getting the most possible AB's for this power hot hand...7 HR's and 1.001-OPS
----DeRosa; For the month 23/66 .348....932-OPS
-----Soto for the month 11/24 .458 ....1.375 OPS!

putting Theriot down in the 8th spot ahead of a good hitting pitcher allows him to use his 'energy game' as Theriot has been fading in September, 13/70 .186 (.256-OBP)....I think we may see Theriot down at that spot for the remainder of the season or unless his game suddenly picks up.

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions

SOTO

Nice!

by ms9av on Sep 21, 2007 10:42 AM CDT reply actions

Why Theriot so low?

Any reason The Riot is down in the 8 spot? An attempt by Lou to "reload" the lineup at the bottom and maybe let Soriano get some more RBIs while he's hot?

Whatever it is, I agree with Lou....in Lou I trust ("in Lou we do"? "By Pinella, we're propella-ed"?...nothing seems to have the old "In Dusty we Trusty" ring to it....)

by Chadnudj on Sep 21, 2007 10:53 AM CDT reply actions

perhaps

I like theriot at 8. He seems to consistantly get good AB's and hopefully he can get onbase for either a sac bunt or to keep the 9 spot from leading off the next inning. Plus if teams pitch around him to get to the 9 spot he won't strike out swinging at the bad pitches

The Astros just asked me to start their next game

by jds2 on Sep 21, 2007 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions

see above and pay attention

Theriot has had a good year, wrestled SS away from Izturis, been the energy guy offensively but he is fading fast offensively. He is batting a mere .186 in September and an OBP .256....neither are top of the order stats.
----For all the support to move him to lead off in September he only batted .276 with a .315 OBP...far cry from July when he was hot and batted .348 and had a .437 OBP.

Theriot is a valuable player on a team, he gives more offensively than the stats can show, he forces the defense to react but he has to learn to get more hits to left and center field.

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions

re:"see above and pay attention "

In his defense once the comments start to pile up it can be pretty tough to join in and not miss stuff and coments made to a "later" discussion are usually not replied back to.

The Astros just asked me to start their next game

by jds2 on Sep 21, 2007 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions

Sorry I was not insinuating about reading this

board....but saying that Theriot's offensive statistics have been on a slide for some time. Heck he peaked at .290 in late August and now is batting .268...that is big slide....

Not directed at you per se, but this manager unlike the previous ones has stated unequivably that he makes decisions that will give his team the best chance to win. So when he drops a hitter from the #2 to the #8 it is a valid question to inquire, but the obvious is that Theriot has not performed as needed in the role.

DeRosa just came off a 10 for 10 streak against Cincinnati....that by itself would warrant a move by a manager to pull DeRosa up who is hot right now and get him more AB's....the same for Soto...he is exceedingly hot....and doing well behind the plate....ride that horse like a pony express rider....

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions

fair enough

and i agree, I was dissapointed they got lou instead of Giradi but lou had been really good this year.

The Astros just asked me to start their next game

by jds2 on Sep 21, 2007 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions

With the Theriot slide

It makes sense that Lou would bump him down in the lineup. Today is a good day to do it, with Marquis hitting ninth. He is traditionally supposed to be a good-hitting pitcher although hasn't lived up to that this year. Still, with that reputation, hopefully he can at least get down a bunt, being that he is not Rich Hill.

by montanacubby on Sep 21, 2007 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions

re: Sorry I was not insinuating about reading this

I think one of the main reasons Theriot's offensive slide has slid by the wayside is that he still does a lot of little things to help the Cubs win games. He's still solid on defense, steals bases, runs out slow rollers, etc.

And I know something Steve Stone remarks upon often is Theriot's batting average after the seventh inning. I'm too lazy to look it up, but I think it may take some of the edge off of his poorer overall numbers.

Wednesday night's game was a prime example of how Theriot seems to always be sparking those late-inning rallies we've come to know and love.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions

granted...I can't access his hit/inning

But the big picture is this. Theriot like all hitters has weak spots and hot spots. FOX has a nice set of graphics and if you look at Theriot he has 23 hits to RF, 18 to center, 9 to left and 8 on the infield and 2 HR's He is hitting .340+ with pitches down the middle (.405 up and middle) and if you pitch him up and outside .320...

The league is beginning to figure him out, but make a mistake up and he hurts you. He is right on the league average for his position, higher in RBI's by double and runs 77 league average is 18 and okay stealing a base.

He is a strong #8 hitter.

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions

at lunchtime

I'm going to go buy me an AM radio with an earbud. I've got my shirt. I've got my BCB. I've got gameday.

GO CUBBIES!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 11:16 AM CDT reply actions

I love seeing this...

It's a beautiful day, the crowds are building, it's an exciting place to be. Wrigley Cam

Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 21, 2007 11:19 AM CDT reply actions

WHAT!!! YOU love seeing

this. Man this is torture, Im sitting in an office in the middle of Iowa and I cannot see my cubs play this afternoon and you want to show all the fun the rest of the world is doing!

Come on STOP the torture:)

GO CUBS!!!!!!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions

Now you can have your own...

http://www.buildyourownchicago.com/WrigleyField.html

I'm not sure I'd have the patience to actually fold this and put it together, but it's pretty cool!

by MN exile on Sep 21, 2007 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions

Are we on WGN today??

MMMMM...Fernandos fajitas and margaraitas

by Kinky Reggae on Sep 21, 2007 11:36 AM CDT reply actions

comcast

"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 21, 2007 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions

i have meetings.

so, i'm taping the game. i have to find a way to block all updates and hints of the game. i hope marquis throws a shutout.

"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 21, 2007 11:40 AM CDT reply actions

Al is right...the time for talk IS over.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 11:40 AM CDT reply actions

re: Al is right...the time for talk IS over.

Ah, the first pic of the day. How sweet it is! By the way, is that Jason Kendall on that poster?

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions

You've never seen Megaforce??

That's Barry Bostwick aka "Ace Hunter".

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions

So far as I can discern...

...nobody saw Megaforce.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Sep 21, 2007 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions

Looks more like Barry Gibb

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions

Hey..your right!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions

LOL...awesome!

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions

i have a feeling that monroe is going

yard today. book it.

"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 21, 2007 11:41 AM CDT reply actions

What do you think?

IF Angel Pagan was 100%, would Hendry have picked up Monroe?

Would Pagan be a better choice than Monroe as a switch hitter?

He has more HR's now than Monroe, I think...

It is SEPTEMBER, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Sep 21, 2007 11:43 AM CDT reply actions

Dunno

I keep on hearing how Monroe is a veteran presence with experience in hitting clutch HRs in the World Series. So maybe Hendry would have.

I myself might prefer Pagan. If Monroe had had a better start with the Cubbies, I would have preferred him. Maybe he will break out today!

by zevkalman on Sep 21, 2007 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions

actually Pagan's weakness is his RHB

for some reason he hits with more power and average from the left side. Monroe will help this team this week and in the playoffs.

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions

Jason Marquis

Tonight begins Yom Kippur - Marquis will not pitch past 4pm is what he told Lou. Hopefully the game will go to Marmom, Howry and Demp by then.

Aug 15 - Ted Lilly walked by the lineup card and said to nobody in particular "I can't believe I'm batting 9th again".

by mweil on Sep 21, 2007 12:04 PM CDT reply actions

Seriously?

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions

Yup. That's what I heard too.

;0

There are 3 things in my life which I really love: God, family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit.

by cubsfan4life on Sep 21, 2007 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions

As an "MoT"

(Member of the Tribe), here are the "rules:" Yom Kippur begins at sundown. According to weather.com, sunset tonight is at 650pm. I think Marquis can be out of there at 500pm and still be at temple or home in plenty of time.

I don't get the 4pm stuff. He will be fine.

Go Jason...make us all proud! GO CUBS!!

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Sep 21, 2007 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions

RE: Sources

I have sources within the Cubs organization that indicated the 4pm time - which will allow him time, etc. to do his thing. I am not saying it can't be done quicker - I am just saying what my sources have told me.

The upside is the guy with the Pink Hat and Green shirt sitting behind home plate is a member too - so maybe we will not see him tomorrow.

I too am a MoT.

Aug 15 - Ted Lilly walked by the lineup card and said to nobody in particular "I can't believe I'm batting 9th again".

by mweil on Sep 21, 2007 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions

One more thought

If Lou did not pitch Z and Lilly on short rest - Marquis would have been scheduled tomorrow.

Aug 15 - Ted Lilly walked by the lineup card and said to nobody in particular "I can't believe I'm batting 9th again".

by mweil on Sep 21, 2007 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions

Who knew

Lou was so sensitive to the Jewish diaspora?

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions

attention to details and planning

things tend to take care themselves when one plans and is attentive to details...like Soto's 1.300 OPS

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions

uh...

I thought he told Lou he was ok to pitch, period.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions

No link = Not true

Yom Kippur begins at SUNSET, which will be at least two hours after a nine-inning game.

Plus, we're talking about Jason Marquis. His day will likely be done by 3 p.m. or so.

by lancaster99 on Sep 21, 2007 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions

Here's a link

http://www.oregonbigfoot.com/

Its on the internet so it must be true.

I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Sep 21, 2007 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions

re: Here's a link

That bigfoot site is pretty amusing. Incidentally, I hear bigfoot hits for power but doesn't run the bases very well. He's kinda like Adam Dunn.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions

espn story on...

...new ownership.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3029964

"If you'da been thinkin you wouldn't 'a thought that." ~~ "Squints" Palledorous

by rm463 on Sep 21, 2007 12:32 PM CDT reply actions

Oh, this is cold...

"People always come up and ask me if the Cubs are going to win in their lifetime," former Cubs pitcher and broadcaster Steve Stone said. "And I always give them the same answer: 'How long are you planning on living?'"

by MN exile on Sep 21, 2007 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions

Stoney proclaims to love the Cubs

But what I think he REALLY loves is making snarky comments about the Cubs.

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions

Oh come on folks!!

Do you really think that his comments were unfounded?? Please!! Everyone and their great-great-great grandmother knows that 1) he said it with a sense of humor and 2) it's completely true (given the current ownership on the way out).

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions

too odds set to crossover sometime

The odds that the Cubs will win the World Series will happen as 0 for 99 is an aberration, yet the odds it will happen soon is low since the cubs are 0 for 99.

Which odds will the Cubs organization break. My feeling is that there are reasonable explanations. Between 1906 and 1945 the Cubs were the top NL team in the World Series, 06-07-08, 10, 18, 29, 32, 38 and 45 (9 times one winner). Then the game changed after the war.

First it was money and intergretion where the NY teams had the advantage. Then the draft and expansion. Cubs organization was piss poor through the 50's and rebounded with a good draft and minor league system in the 60s. They fell short in 69 and 71. Then the organization was soft again as FA began to change the game. In the 80s things started turning around when Green came and demanded a new attitude, Then again there was a snakebite in the playoffs and the Cubs were out for 10 years. Now in this decade the urgency returned with the talent.

My thread is that the Cubs need to develop talent in the system and spend money as a top market team.

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions

Interesting - mentions Pink Hat Guy

by Basman on Sep 21, 2007 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions

Quote

"Few franchises can claim they played their first game in 1870, six years before Custer's Last Stand."

Neither can the Cubs. The National Association team started in 1871, and they weren't the Cubs. They were a completely different team with the same name (White Stockings).

The Cubs only date back to 1876, the year of Custer's Last Stand.

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh Timmers on Sep 21, 2007 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions

Hey hey!!!

Can anyone think of a better think than September afternoon baseball that matters in Chicago? Greatest city in the world for this kind of thing. Here's hoping they play smart down the stretch and do those little things like taking the extra base when it's there or moving guys with bunts/sac flies to build up the confidence and motor into the playoffs. GO CUBS!

by BigJimSlade on Sep 21, 2007 1:14 PM CDT reply actions

Music is what does it for me

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/story/2007/9/10/143624/084

"We're going to turn this team around 360 degrees." -Jason Kidd

by tony412 on Sep 21, 2007 1:15 PM CDT reply actions

It's the Wizard of Iz!!!!!!!!!

n/t

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Sep 21, 2007 1:22 PM CDT reply actions

Ron has a cold?

how many games has he missed?

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 1:22 PM CDT reply actions

A little off topic...

didn't we just see this same umpiring crew (with McClelland) LAST weekend in St Louis?

At least - THANK GAWD - we don't catch Cuzzi calling the plate - he is TERRIBLE

(Sorry, I'm a high school umpire and I notice these things)

Proudly waving the Cubbie Blue in the middle of redbird inbreds!

by Tater01 on Sep 21, 2007 1:23 PM CDT reply actions

Awwww, no Ron Santo today...

...still battling a cold.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:23 PM CDT reply actions

Get well soon Ron !!

God knows it's killing him to miss a game like this

by Basman on Sep 21, 2007 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions

based loaded already

Ron must be having a coronary at home.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions

gah. not a great start...

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 1:23 PM CDT reply actions

I hope he gets settled down soon

We can't afford to let the Bucs get ahead of us here... even tho we've been hitting better vs. LHP lately, we still have a challenge ahead of us!!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions

Don't worry...

...Marquis is just setting up the triple play.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:26 PM CDT reply actions

right now

I'll take a DP!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions

no you won't

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions

well....

I'd LIKE a DP!!! ANYTHING to get out of this inning unscathed!!!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions

Don't get bent out of shape...

but Marquis will be done WELL before 4pm is he can't spot his pitches.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 1:27 PM CDT reply actions

The Secret's out

The Cubs can't stop ANYONE from stealing bases. Ron Santo could steal second on a Segway.

------ TheRiot Squad ------

by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 1:30 PM CDT reply actions

Heck...

he could just use me and probably beat Kendall's throws.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions

Loading the bags?

NOT a good idea.

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 1:30 PM CDT reply actions

Need a GIDP and no damage

almost

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions

What is the deal...

with not being able to handle this Pirate team?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 1:30 PM CDT reply actions

All year the Cubs have sucked

as much as the team they play.

Good for ratings but bad baseball.

by whatiswrongwithlarussa on Sep 21, 2007 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions

J Marquis ....gotta get this guy

C'mon we need you

by Basman on Sep 21, 2007 1:31 PM CDT reply actions

Why did they intentally walk Adam LaSuck

when the count was 0-1?

by whatiswrongwithlarussa on Sep 21, 2007 1:31 PM CDT reply actions

Wowsers

Not a good start here Jason. Let's not have something to atone today.

by BigJimSlade on Sep 21, 2007 1:31 PM CDT reply actions

hey, deja vu

runs in the first... not ours...

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 1:32 PM CDT reply actions

at least it's only ONE run!!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions

Get outta this with one run...

...and we'll call it even. (Uh, so to speak.)

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:32 PM CDT reply actions

I have a theory...

...Marquis can not pitch well in warm weather. Stay tuned.

You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 1:32 PM CDT reply actions

hhmm.....

THIS I gotta hear!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions

Lou & Bob touched on this a bit

during his last start. His pitches have been more "crisp" in colder temperatures and they kind of flatten out in the heat.

There are 3 things in my life which I really love: God, family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit.

by cubsfan4life on Sep 21, 2007 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions

be glad it's just one

by cubs2234 on Sep 21, 2007 1:33 PM CDT reply actions

OH JEEBUS!

Geez Murton, if you woulda dropped that I woulda came for your family. It looked like he was jogging out there. Barely caught.

------ TheRiot Squad ------

by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 1:33 PM CDT reply actions

my kingdom for a 1-2-3- first inning

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 1:33 PM CDT reply actions

Whew

Let's get that run back boys

You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 1:33 PM CDT reply actions

Lead off homer?

Let's see it, right now.

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 1:33 PM CDT reply actions

Good call!

by whatiswrongwithlarussa on Sep 21, 2007 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions

WHOA!!!!!

Way to call it!!! Care to call the next one? :)

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions

Gucci

Nice call- - now call for it the next time Soriano is up

Aug 15 - Ted Lilly walked by the lineup card and said to nobody in particular "I can't believe I'm batting 9th again".

by mweil on Sep 21, 2007 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions

Even a blind squirrel...

can "predict" homeruns every once in a blue moon!

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions

WOW Murton almost misplayed that one

That is why defense is so important, Murton made the catch but if not two more runs score and a man on 2nd or 3rd.

In the end missed opportunity for the Pirates, but they showed they are going to run on the Cubs at the top of the order.

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 1:34 PM CDT reply actions

OK I'll take it ....

I gotta go for an interview .... hold the fort down & get some runs Cubbies !!

Wish me luck :)

by Basman on Sep 21, 2007 1:34 PM CDT reply actions

good luck bas

smile and be confident.

homer Fonsi!!!

big leaguers all look down on us because of all that goat curse fuss maybe we should end that silly curse today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KMuC-JUlEY

by joeschmitt on Sep 21, 2007 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions

hot damn!

n/t

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:35 PM CDT reply actions

w00t!

ALFO! AGAIN!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 1:35 PM CDT reply actions

MMMKay...offense...

time to spring into ACTION!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 1:35 PM CDT reply actions

jesus, i do admit that's impressive

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 1:35 PM CDT reply actions

Indeed

Pirates players must be thinking "jesus, it took us 25 pitches to get one run."

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions

i like this guy

by cubs2234 on Sep 21, 2007 1:35 PM CDT reply actions

I wish Murton could catch a ball

without my heart skipping a few beats. Hey, Sori, I love you!

by zevkalman on Sep 21, 2007 1:35 PM CDT reply actions

YAY Soriano!!!!

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 1:36 PM CDT reply actions

just like that

8th this month

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 1:36 PM CDT reply actions

Hahaha

Oh man. I'm in a public computer lab at school and I just let out a big shout and now everyone's looking at me. Go Fonzie!

------ TheRiot Squad ------

by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 1:36 PM CDT reply actions

ALF!

You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 1:36 PM CDT reply actions

Wishes do come true!

Nice job, Alf

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 1:36 PM CDT reply actions

Soriano

Why in the world would anyone give him a 1st pitch fastball to hit?!?!?!

big leaguers all look down on us because of all that goat curse fuss maybe we should end that silly curse today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KMuC-JUlEY

by joeschmitt on Sep 21, 2007 1:36 PM CDT reply actions

It's like punting to Devin Hester

Some idiot is always going to do it, but i agree with you, why!?

by Orval Overall on Sep 21, 2007 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions

it is exactly like that!

chiefs and pirates, thank you!

big leaguers all look down on us because of all that goat curse fuss maybe we should end that silly curse today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KMuC-JUlEY

by joeschmitt on Sep 21, 2007 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions

yeah,

somehow the Chiefs just didn't get it last weekend. Sort of like the Colts in the superbowl. Someday they may learn, but I hope not.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions

I seriously think that Soriano is the...

...least-scouted All-Star in the majors. Teams keep pitching him fastballs on the first pitch and running on balls hit to him in the outfield. It baffles.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Sep 21, 2007 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions

Who cares, let's just hope teams continue

to do that along with sending runners on him and we'll be in good shape.

There are 3 things in my life which I really love: God, family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit.

by cubsfan4life on Sep 21, 2007 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions

He's easily

on pace to break the record for leadoff homers in a career if he hits leadoff for a few more years like this.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:36 PM CDT reply actions

First pitch

Now that is what you do with a first pitch strike.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 1:37 PM CDT reply actions

Fonzie is locked in!

Say what you will about him batting leadoff... I love it when we score a run after 1 batter.

by eamuscatuli1881 on Sep 21, 2007 1:37 PM CDT reply actions

1 batter?

1 pitch!

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions

AMEN!!

This is why he's leadoff!!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions

It's a great way

to kill the morale of the other club. While the power would be nice later, it is a good punch to the nuts after they get some runs in the first.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions

Or just...

bungee jump off the left one.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions

oh poor ken griffey

n/t

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions

OH FONZIE!!!

You magnificent bastard!!!

by BigJimSlade on Sep 21, 2007 1:37 PM CDT reply actions

Pirates Catcher

Pirates Catcher kinda looks like Master Chief with that tinted green visor. Oh man, I've got Halo on the brain.

------ TheRiot Squad ------

by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 1:38 PM CDT reply actions

santo

sorry if i missed a post above, but where's ronnie? it's pat and dave in the radio booth.

big leaguers all look down on us because of all that goat curse fuss maybe we should end that silly curse today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KMuC-JUlEY

by joeschmitt on Sep 21, 2007 1:39 PM CDT reply actions

Ron's home sick with a cold.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions

Aw man...

...I left my desk to nuke my lunch and I missed Soriano's lead-off home run.

DLEE singles!!!

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:39 PM CDT reply actions

D Lee with a hit.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 1:39 PM CDT reply actions

Anyone else here..

get a chubby when Lee sprays those lasers to right?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 1:40 PM CDT reply actions

hot damn!

again! Ramirez baby! Kendall st!

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions

woops

that wasn't supposed to be a reply

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions

re: Anyone else here..

Not sure I'd put it in those terms exactly, but I do find DLee's successful at-bats stimulating.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions

No Outs

First 3 guys on!

Cubs fan since forever Live Cubs Chat with no refresh required

by roscoevillage on Sep 21, 2007 1:40 PM CDT reply actions

yah!

so much for our struggling v. LHP!! we're off to a GOOOOOOD offensive start!!! now if marquis can just hold down the fort and settle down!! i know he's got yom kippur on the mind, but i've got a division championship on mine!!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions

YES!!!!! ALL RIGHT!

Take THAT, Left-handed pitchers!!!!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 PM CDT reply actions

Holy shit!!!!

Three run homer by Ramirez!!!! 4-1

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 PM CDT reply actions

Sue

I didn't think you had that kind of language in you!

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions

Hell

didya really think she'd contain her excitement like that?? ;)

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah well

I'm not angel. :)

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions

should be

not an angel.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions

YES!

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 PM CDT reply actions

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

ARAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 PM CDT reply actions

holy shit, isn't that EXACTLY what happened

last week?

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 PM CDT reply actions

Maholm can not be healthy

He got rocked in his last start for 11 runs in 3 IP against the Astros. I can't see Maholm having that kind of leash again.

This is awesome.

by IllinoisCubs on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 PM CDT reply actions

4-1

they are jacked

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 PM CDT reply actions

I don't think

I've seen one go down Kendall St. since the Sosa days.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 PM CDT reply actions

That's what I'm talking about!

by eamuscatuli1881 on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 PM CDT reply actions

Totally Awesome!

Wish i was at Wrigley, right now!
Damn, didn't work this time. I'm still at work!

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 1:42 PM CDT reply actions

Radio Guys Say it Hit A Tree on Waveland!

True? (game is not on where I am)

by Orval Overall on Sep 21, 2007 1:42 PM CDT reply actions

Niiiiiiiice

If we keep this up, Marquis in trouble...we will be batting until 4pm!!!

You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 1:42 PM CDT reply actions

Pat Hughes reporting....

...that ball appeared to land in one of the trees across Waveland. Maybe Ballhawk can fill us in on the details later today or tomorrow.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:42 PM CDT reply actions

Dave Kingman hits balls like that.

Goodness.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Sep 21, 2007 1:42 PM CDT reply actions

Ya beat me...

First thing I thought of...Kingman-esque.
It just needed to hit that porch 3 doors down Kennmore.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 21, 2007 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions

HOLY LIVING F*CK

That ball landed in the trees across waveland ave. I can't remember ever seeing a ball do that before.

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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 1:43 PM CDT reply actions

HAHA

Izturis, still sucking after all these years.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:43 PM CDT reply actions

Ahh, that's the Izzy I remember

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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 1:43 PM CDT reply actions

Welcome back, Cesar!

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Sep 21, 2007 1:43 PM CDT reply actions

LOL

No kidding.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions

Now there's the Izzy we all remember!

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:43 PM CDT reply actions

!Ceasar!

Oh how we have missed thee

I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Sep 21, 2007 1:44 PM CDT reply actions

Mlb.tv video working for anybody?

I can get the radio stream, but not tv.

by jbowling13 on Sep 21, 2007 1:44 PM CDT reply actions

Works for me

I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Sep 21, 2007 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions

Shiver me timbers!!

It's National Pitch Like a Pirate Day!!

Cubs fans are 90% scar tissue and 100% insane

by Bridge2Far on Sep 21, 2007 1:44 PM CDT reply actions

Yes yes yes!!! Holy Crap YESSSS!

I want to see the Cubs EAT this Pirate's team SOULS!!!!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 1:44 PM CDT reply actions

Tears in his eyes...

I bet Cesar was tearing up, wishing he was still a Cub.

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 1:44 PM CDT reply actions

re: Tears in his eyes...

I bet Cesar was crying because he couldn't give ARam one of his special "thank yous" after hitting that home run.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions

watch out,

If he makes it to third base today I bet he'll try.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions

LMFAO!!!!

Ceasar "the taint massager" Izturis

You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions

LOL!

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions

Yahoo!

Ever get the feeling that the Pirates are just rolling over for us?

by DaleCoop14 on Sep 21, 2007 1:45 PM CDT reply actions

Roll, baby, Roll!

A welcome mat is more than okay with me!

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions

not with

the series we last had with them!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions

I hope Izzy

gets a standing O when he comes to plate for that last play.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:45 PM CDT reply actions

did we win that game in houston

where fonzy and a-ram both hit first inning homers for 4 runs?

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 1:46 PM CDT reply actions

ssshhhhh

don't jinx them!!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions

And....

It's Kenmore Ave, not Kendall St.

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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 1:47 PM CDT reply actions

Ah yes,

Ken something. As I said, it's been awhile. Thanks

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions

re: And....

Yeah, Kendall hasn't been that good this season.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions

Nice

Marquis will bat before he pitches

Gotta love that

by El Borto on Sep 21, 2007 1:48 PM CDT reply actions

nevermind

I'm a dumbass and thought this was the top of the 1st

by El Borto on Sep 21, 2007 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions

It's ok

I thought maybe you just came in late.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions

This is the bottom

of the first. He's already pitched.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions

Would love for Marquis to go deep here.

You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 1:48 PM CDT reply actions

If I remember correctly...

Jim Edmonds used to say that all the time.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions

Luckily he's got Yadier for that now.

You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions

I'll settle...

for going deep in the game: 7+ innings of winning baseball.

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions

soul patch...

... on Theriot. I do not like it.

by chuccck on Sep 21, 2007 1:49 PM CDT reply actions

I tickles when we make out.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions

show us a picture

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions

agreed, but i loved his little moustache,

SO CREEPY!!!!

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't

mind it.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions

Anyone else notice the TV sound is off?

There seems to be a split sexcond delay near home plate. Whenever a ball is hit or it hits the glove, the sound comes a split second later.

Santo Forever!

by BeerCub on Sep 21, 2007 1:49 PM CDT reply actions

CMON WALK HIM!

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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 1:49 PM CDT reply actions

Love

Love the way this game's starting for us

by vegascubsfan on Sep 21, 2007 1:50 PM CDT reply actions

Sounds like that last pitch...

...was off the plate.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:50 PM CDT reply actions

Okay I gotta go to class....

Game may be over at 5 when I get out (eastern)

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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 1:51 PM CDT reply actions

well,

I have a psych exam in less than an hour that I haven't started studying for. I wish classes were only during the offseason.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 1:51 PM CDT reply actions

That was super-fun!!!

Let's do again in the bottom of the 2nd!

Cubs fans are 90% scar tissue and 100% insane

by Bridge2Far on Sep 21, 2007 1:51 PM CDT reply actions

Can I just say...

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions

how sweet would it be

for soriano to jack the first pitch he sees next inning to

The Astros just asked me to start their next game

by jds2 on Sep 21, 2007 1:53 PM CDT reply actions

Izzy's revenge

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 1:55 PM CDT reply actions

Watch out A-Ram!

Izturis is hitting the ball just to try to get to 3rd right after you hit the HR?!

by IllinoisCubs on Sep 21, 2007 1:55 PM CDT reply actions

Monroe almost

had that. Darn it.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 1:55 PM CDT reply actions

I don't understand the reasoning...

behind Monroe playing CF instead of Pie. The LHP vs LHB thing is a wash in this situation because neither one is going to give you any offense anyway, but Pie would have caught that ball.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions

Reasoning

The reasoning is that Monroe is a MUCH MUCH better hitter vs lefties than Pie this year. Pie has shown no sign he has adapted to big league pitching yet.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions

Monroe is terrible vs anyone throwing a baseball.

It doesn't matter which arm they use.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions

and yet

Pie is worse.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions

Not defensively...

Pie's speed, glove, and arm are far more valuable to this team right now than whatever your expecting out of Monroe's bat.

P.S. I hope your not expecting much.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions

Um no.

Pie's bat is too much of a negative for any amount of defense to overcome. That is why Lou has him in the late inning defensive sub role, and rightly so.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions

Really?

Cause I'm pretty sure Pie catches that ball in Center in the first inning, and I'd say he guns down the runner @ home instead of crapping the bed and zipping one up the first-base line. We'd have the lead.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions

Make believe

Well if you wanna play make believe, Pie ground into a double play and this inning ends with Soriano's pop up, and we dont score a run. As it is that makes it equal in terms of runs (1), but this inning is still going.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions

Your not paying attention...

In my magical far-away place Pie would have saved the run in the first inning and another in the 2nd. Lou would have also had him bunt the runners over anyway.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions

So you admit Pie

brings nothing to the plate. You just advocated having him bunt in the 3rd with a runner on 1st and no one out on a run scoring day like today.

Even in your magical far away place where Pie is god, he is laying down bunts.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions

Are you and Not Bruce related?

Seriously...where do you get the "Pie = God" idea? I've never said Pie is the end all answer. I'd much rather have (gulp) Jones play CF regularly, but when he needs a rest play Pie. Monroe is a marginal corner outfielder at best. Pie hasn't adjusted to ML pitching yet, but holy hell he can take away hits and runs with his defense.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions

Well

When you say that someone's D is good enough to overcome having a .253 OPS vs a .816 OPS. You are insinuating some remarkable powers. He basically would have to be able to literally fly into the stands on angelic wings and turn every foul ball and homerun into an out.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions

Your assuming again...

I'm not saying he's able to make up the difference in offense compared to an everyday player. I'm saying given the choice between Monroe or Pie playing CF for one day, I'd pick Pie. The End.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions

Monroe 2 - Pie 1

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions

Monroe vs Pie vs lefties

So far this year:

Monroe .282/.312/.504
Pie .114/.139/.114

You can be the gad darn FLASH in the outfield. You still can't make that up.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions

has the player to be named later

from the Ceasar deal been named yet?

The Astros just asked me to start their next game

by jds2 on Sep 21, 2007 1:55 PM CDT reply actions

maybe

its Paul Maholm

he's sure helping the Cubs out today

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 21, 2007 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions

ZZZZING!

"We are going to light up the SB Nation server farm like a Christmas tree." - cwyers

by NittanyCub on Sep 21, 2007 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions

With Soriano's next HR

The Cubs' record of consecutive seasons with a 30+ HR player continues...if I'm not mistaken, they currently own the ML record of 12 years in a row? Can someone check on that?

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 1:55 PM CDT reply actions

Monroe...

trying to like you. Not helping your cause here, buddy.

You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 1:56 PM CDT reply actions

Cesar with a rare hit

He'll make it up to us by grounding into a double play later

by vegascubsfan on Sep 21, 2007 1:57 PM CDT reply actions

What's crazy is

that was his 2nd(!) double w/ pirates in 102 AB's. Anyone miss him? Not me.

You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions

utto...

the bats are out today...

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 1:59 PM CDT reply actions

that's an annoying run

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 2:00 PM CDT reply actions

Izzy's revenge...complete.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:00 PM CDT reply actions

Soto

means 'stud' in Spanish.

by IllinoisCubs on Sep 21, 2007 2:00 PM CDT reply actions

There we go!!!

That's what Soto brings to the table.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:00 PM CDT reply actions

When did Pierre's son start playing for Pissburgh?

Nice job Soto.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 2:00 PM CDT reply actions

Hopefully THAT'LL teach the Bucs

NOT to try and run on us!! At least with Soto behind the plate!!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions

Manny being Manny

did anyone see Manny Ramirez told the Red Sox last weekend he was ready to go out on a rehab assignment

Red Sox response: Uhhh Manny... the minor league seasons ended 2 weeks ago, we dont have anywhere to send you

that guy kills me

i've also heard on his last minor league rehab assignment during warmups he decided he needed a haircut and left the stadium, walked directly across the street in spikes into a barbershop to get his haircut

just on a different planet

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 21, 2007 2:01 PM CDT reply actions

re: Manny being Manny

LOL. Maybe they could send him to Japan. Are they still playing?

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions

Maybe there's an instructional league...

...that the Sox could send him to.

That is too funny.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Sep 21, 2007 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions

Somebody somewhere is still playing baseball

There is a fall league. I don't know too much about it, but based on random rotowire updates, it seems like there is always something.

Fall League in Arizona, winter ball in Mexico, etc.

by IllinoisCubs on Sep 21, 2007 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions

Soto -- Kendall

I love Kendall. But Soto wins.

by zevkalman on Sep 21, 2007 2:02 PM CDT reply actions

agree....and he is the HOT hand

at the plate and behind the plate

Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Sep 21, 2007 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions

Caught Stealing

We can do that?!? That's allowed?

Sweet.

by vegascubsfan on Sep 21, 2007 2:03 PM CDT reply actions

A caught stealing?

That's new.

Aug 15 - Ted Lilly walked by the lineup card and said to nobody in particular "I can't believe I'm batting 9th again".

by mweil on Sep 21, 2007 2:04 PM CDT reply actions

no kidding

at least we got rid of micheal "I couldn't catch OJ stealing" Barret

The Astros just asked me to start their next game

by jds2 on Sep 21, 2007 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions

Double networked...WGN and MLBtv

I have noticed that if you access WGN before the game time you can access the radio before the required password request. Then on another computer you can access MLB.tv on another, reminds me of home.

Not timed perfectly but neither is gameday....

4-2 Cubs need to score again this inning

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 2:04 PM CDT reply actions

yes!

and they just did!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions

Go Derrek!!

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 2:05 PM CDT reply actions

D-Lee lookin' great

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 2:05 PM CDT reply actions

First pitch

Keep crushing that first good pitch you see!!!

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions

chubby acquired

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:06 PM CDT reply actions

That 2 chubbies for me today!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions

LOL

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions

5-2

Looking good Cubs!!

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 2:07 PM CDT reply actions

Izturis

The gift that just keeps on giving.

He taketh and he giveth

by IllinoisCubs on Sep 21, 2007 2:07 PM CDT reply actions

Ah, Cesar....

:)

by eamuscatuli1881 on Sep 21, 2007 2:07 PM CDT reply actions

Way to hustle Derrek!

And thanks you Izturis!

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 2:08 PM CDT reply actions

Thank you, Mr. Izturis!!!

May we have another?

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:08 PM CDT reply actions

Some where

BlueMike just hangs his head.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions

Like I said

Cesar will make it up to us

by vegascubsfan on Sep 21, 2007 2:08 PM CDT reply actions

big run

defense and speed

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 2:08 PM CDT reply actions

Viva Cesar!

Great slide by DLee too.

2007 Badger Football - 1-0

by Schwa on Sep 21, 2007 2:08 PM CDT reply actions

IZZY!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Sep 21, 2007 2:08 PM CDT reply actions

izruris literally gave that run back to us

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 2:08 PM CDT reply actions

He is the uber-Neifi!

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions

Nefi

giving aram a hand

The Astros just asked me to start their next game

by jds2 on Sep 21, 2007 2:09 PM CDT reply actions

by neifi

i meant izzy

The Astros just asked me to start their next game

by jds2 on Sep 21, 2007 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions

When are the pirates going to give us

the player to be named later for that amazing shortstop we traded them? I expect Jack Wilson.

by zevkalman on Sep 21, 2007 2:09 PM CDT reply actions

re: When are the pirates going to give us

Y'know what? The Cubs don't want a player back. They just want the Bucs to start Izzy every game the Cubs play against them.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions

After all, Izturis a gold glove ss :-)

n/t

by zevkalman on Sep 21, 2007 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions

...oh wow.

So that was Len Kasper seriously quoting Baseball Prospectus' Defensive Efficency stats during a live television broadcast.

I don't care what anyone says, Kasper is AWESOME.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Sep 21, 2007 2:10 PM CDT reply actions

And now...

...Len's namedropping Rob Deer. This is awesome.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Sep 21, 2007 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions

OKOKOKOK!

I got the day off and my wife went to her parents, so I decided I'm gonna tie one on with a little help from the Cubs.

One shot of crown royal per run scored.

THANKS FOR THE BUZZ CUBS!!!

NOW GET ME STINKING DRUNK!!!

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 2:10 PM CDT reply actions

DRINK ONE FOR ME!!!!!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions

DONE!

The fifth run dedicated to you compliments of our favorite ball club!

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions

it's 2:12 PM

im still wearing what i slept in...

andddddd the first beer got opened.

...this could be a very very good day

by bgsiggy on Sep 21, 2007 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions

re: it's 2:12 PM

I'm sitting in a cubicle drinking a Diet Pepsi. I hate you.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions

AMEN

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions

yeah...

life's tough sometimes. i am doing some research from a far kinda...

its not all rainbows and unicorns

by bgsiggy on Sep 21, 2007 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions

Me too!

But beer just doesn't pack the punch of a good ounce and a half of Canada's best.

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions

I hate you too

Unless you are a bartender and you work nights, then you are just one more example life is unfair.

Actually, if you ARE a bartender, that's still better than what I'm doing.

by BigJimSlade on Sep 21, 2007 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions

DAMN!

Looks like they are gonna have to get me pretty wasted to win this game.

I'm all for it.

Geez Marqueez!!!!

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions

Who's more fun to make fun of?

Neifi?
Izturis?
Dusty?

by vegascubsfan on Sep 21, 2007 2:10 PM CDT reply actions

Ummm....

Yes

The Astros just asked me to start their next game

by jds2 on Sep 21, 2007 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions

LOL not a yes/no question...

WHO is more fun to make fun of ;)

EASILY IZZY!!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions

how close was it?

Gameday made it look like Sanchez nearly went yard... was it that close?

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 2:14 PM CDT reply actions

Has anyone, at any stage of Murton's career...

ever shown him how to catch a fly ball in the outfield using TWO hands?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 2:14 PM CDT reply actions

One Run per Inning

That's all we ask. HIC! HIC! HIC!

Cubs fans are 90% scar tissue and 100% insane

by Bridge2Far on Sep 21, 2007 2:14 PM CDT reply actions

When was the last time one of our catchers

threw down to first? Soto is the full package.

by IllinoisCubs on Sep 21, 2007 2:16 PM CDT reply actions

Thanks to you guys and your hilarious posts

Everyone that walks by my cube and my poor neighbor thinks I'm insane cuz I'm constantly laughing out loud (LITERALLY) at everything being said! (Ok, not EVERYTHING, but you get the gist!!)

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 2:16 PM CDT reply actions

is there movement...

in the bull pen?
because there's seemingly no movement to Marquis' pitches.

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 2:17 PM CDT reply actions

At this pace

We have to score 10 runs and we're good

by vegascubsfan on Sep 21, 2007 2:18 PM CDT reply actions

Jason

on course to give up seven runs today. Yeesh.

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 2:18 PM CDT reply actions

crap

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 2:18 PM CDT reply actions

Is anyone else convinced....

Jason's just trying to keep the Bucs closeby to set up the drama in the 9th for Demps???

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 2:18 PM CDT reply actions

Yep.

that is exactly what is happening. he wants you to suffer for your victory. and have a heart attack along the way.

by Ryno72 on Sep 21, 2007 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions

don't forget...

turning your hair grey before you yank them all out!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions

get the bullpen up!

we don't have time for this...

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 2:18 PM CDT reply actions

WTF?

MMMMM...Fernandos fajitas and margaraitas

by Kinky Reggae on Sep 21, 2007 2:18 PM CDT reply actions

A CS by SOTO?

So, according to Gameday, our catcher THREW OUT A RUNNER??!!

It is SEPTEMBER, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Sep 21, 2007 2:18 PM CDT reply actions

And almost threw out a runner at first

after a pitch because the guy got off the bag too much.

by IllinoisCubs on Sep 21, 2007 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions

Good god.

this is UGLY

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 2:18 PM CDT reply actions

Um yeah...

...I don't think Marquis needs to worry about breaching that 4 pm deadline.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:18 PM CDT reply actions

get him outta there lou

by cubs2234 on Sep 21, 2007 2:18 PM CDT reply actions

for those that trust Marquis

more than Big Z or Rich Hill....

i present you THIS

aaaaaaghhh.....

Jason.... please get some outs

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 21, 2007 2:18 PM CDT reply actions

Holy crap in a side car.

What is going on here????? Marquis + hot weather = trouble.

You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 2:19 PM CDT reply actions

Kevin Hart

Carlos Marmol

Kerry Wood

Bob Howry

Get your engines ready.

by IllinoisCubs on Sep 21, 2007 2:19 PM CDT reply actions

tied

3rd inning can you say Hart

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 2:19 PM CDT reply actions

Pleasant surprise

Hart is.

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions

I PREDICT THE FINAL

SCORE TO BE 32-29!!

Gees to get a 1-2-3 inning, I think Mar-KEY started worshiping/celebrating a little too early!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 2:19 PM CDT reply actions

Bout right...

32 shots of crown is doable.

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Save us, Izzy!

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:19 PM CDT reply actions

Izzy the Terrible

I think he's gotten more hits and rbi's in this game than in his entire Cub career! I think he's hoping for a "congratulatory" hand shake!

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions

And its "Roller Coaster Ronny"

Once more...

<sigh>

It is SEPTEMBER, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Sep 21, 2007 2:19 PM CDT reply actions

hey, we're back to the first inning.

And stop talking about Ceasar. He's killing us.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 2:20 PM CDT reply actions

Happy F___IN HOLIDAY JASON!

MMMMM...Fernandos fajitas and margaraitas

by Kinky Reggae on Sep 21, 2007 2:21 PM CDT reply actions

damn

I wanted the good Jason today too.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 2:21 PM CDT reply actions

Izzz triple

pay back

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 2:21 PM CDT reply actions

youve got to be fucking kidding me

by cubs2234 on Sep 21, 2007 2:21 PM CDT reply actions

For the love of God...

...get Marquis out of there.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:21 PM CDT reply actions

Wow.

Marquis should be fucking ASHAMED

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 2:21 PM CDT reply actions

Go get some rest, Jason. See you in a week.

by park on Sep 21, 2007 2:21 PM CDT reply actions

I need a stiff drink.

You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 2:21 PM CDT reply actions

you AND me both!!

Thank goodness I get out of work in 1 hr 40 mins. Not here soon enough!!!!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions

OH.....MAN!

MMMMM...Fernandos fajitas and margaraitas

by Kinky Reggae on Sep 21, 2007 2:22 PM CDT reply actions

you mean....

OH-NO-MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions

oh-MAN

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 2:22 PM CDT reply actions

Lou's putting in Ohman?

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:22 PM CDT reply actions

Here we go!

MMMMM...Fernandos fajitas and margaraitas

by Kinky Reggae on Sep 21, 2007 2:22 PM CDT reply actions

ok, losing the lead sucks ass

thank god marquis is gone, what a terrible way to pay your team back for giving you 5 runs in 2 innings

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 2:22 PM CDT reply actions

Ohman?

Not my first choice, yet i hope it's the best choice.

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 2:22 PM CDT reply actions

that was really bad, jason

by cubs2234 on Sep 21, 2007 2:22 PM CDT reply actions

Day of Atonement

he'll make it, But I think this is going to be 12-11 game......can you say Hart, Gallagher, Wood and the rest of the rested.

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 2:23 PM CDT reply actions

Will Ohman entering the game...Why Lou? Why?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 2:23 PM CDT reply actions

How heavy were the Boos

As Marquis dragged his sorry ass into the dugout?

by lemon20pie on Sep 21, 2007 2:23 PM CDT reply actions

Couldn't hear any boos.

Everyone was in shock.

by zevkalman on Sep 21, 2007 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions

Oh Christ

not Ohman.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 2:24 PM CDT reply actions

(&^#^Q@#^$^!!!!

...and them some. Geez, come on Marquis! This game should be over.

"Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?"

by Jettero2112 on Sep 21, 2007 2:24 PM CDT reply actions

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!

MMMMM...Fernandos fajitas and margaraitas

by Kinky Reggae on Sep 21, 2007 2:24 PM CDT reply actions

a comedy of errors...

or a tragedy...

OVER the mound???

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 2:24 PM CDT reply actions

OHMAN!

I HATE YOU!

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 2:24 PM CDT reply actions

how in the H-E-DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS

do you let the opposing PITCHER reach on a RBI BUNT single????????

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions

Practice! And natural talent.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions

Ohman's in cuz the Pitcher is due up 4th

by lemon20pie on Sep 21, 2007 2:24 PM CDT reply actions

Ummmm

OK

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 2:24 PM CDT reply actions

Pardon me...

...I have to find my jaw. It fell beneath my desk somewhere.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:25 PM CDT reply actions

Maybe LaRussa had something

Do you want someone who is so unable to pull it together pitching big games? I mean, really, good stuff or not, you have to find a way to get outs in this situation (against the Pirates!!). Marquis' bad games are really bad.

by cubmudgeon on Sep 21, 2007 2:25 PM CDT reply actions

Ohman better than Marquis right now.

Can't put too much stress on the pen right now.

by park on Sep 21, 2007 2:25 PM CDT reply actions

I can't do this ...

taking a break! Need drinky!

MMMMM...Fernandos fajitas and margaraitas

by Kinky Reggae on Sep 21, 2007 2:25 PM CDT reply actions

This inning...

has been very sobering.

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 2:25 PM CDT reply actions

7 ER, 2.2 innings....

...for Marquis.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:26 PM CDT reply actions

wow

talk about a bad luck break on that pop up bunt.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 2:26 PM CDT reply actions

wow -

we finally retired Morgan.
good God, let's get some runs (again).

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 2:26 PM CDT reply actions

Can anyone believe this?

Really? We HAVE to win this game or this could send the team into a spiral.

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 2:27 PM CDT reply actions

So will it be Hart in long relief?

Any other guesses?

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:27 PM CDT reply actions

seriously, i'm not getting too worried yet

two runs down in a game where 12 have been scored in 2 and a half innings does not seem like a huge hill to climb.

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 2:27 PM CDT reply actions

yeah,

our offense seems to be clicking today, not too worried. and there goes Soto.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions

Well hopefully we can continue to pound Maholm

and get into their bullpen and keep chasing pitchers out...

Soto single...off to a good start...

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions

Except for the crap luck we have...

neither team will probably score again, and both bullpens will sparkle.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions

heh

let's hope that isn't the case.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't want to

but I may cry.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 2:28 PM CDT reply actions

it's early...

Think of Shawn Johnson for strength in this tough time!

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions

sniff, sniff

OK I will.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions

uh

I got up from my computer and it was 5-2. Wtf happened?

feels like laundry

by wally on Sep 21, 2007 2:28 PM CDT reply actions

well then

Don't get up again! Please!

by rgonzale on Sep 21, 2007 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions

even if you have to crap and piss!!

take one (or two!) for the team!!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions

like I said

the bats are out!

Let's go!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 2:28 PM CDT reply actions

Geovany = stud.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 2:28 PM CDT reply actions

ESPN scoreboard shows

Izzy as one of the leaders for the day....funny thing he is still in his Cubs uniform.

by JakeH on Sep 21, 2007 2:28 PM CDT reply actions

Let's get this prick Maholm

out now. Bullpen vs bullpen. I like the Cubs chances then.

by lemon20pie on Sep 21, 2007 2:28 PM CDT reply actions

Easier way

Lets just score off this prick Maholm.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions

Playoffs....

I'm making my flight plans to come to Chicago for the NLDS. Does anyone know what days the Cubs will be playing? Thanks in advance.

"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Sep 21, 2007 2:29 PM CDT reply actions

most likely

would be Oct 6-7 (games 3-4)

You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions

soto

I like this kid

feels like laundry

by wally on Sep 21, 2007 2:29 PM CDT reply actions

i think i'm gonna have to run to the bodega

and grab some beers

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 2:30 PM CDT reply actions

Monroe CAN hit...

maybe... just maybe...

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 2:31 PM CDT reply actions

Alright

I'm ready for some Ward

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 2:31 PM CDT reply actions

DANG

that would have been nice...

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 2:31 PM CDT reply actions

Cubs WILL score...

They can't POSSIBLY blow this opportunity!

"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Sep 21, 2007 2:32 PM CDT reply actions

It's time for...

The Riot to break out...

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 2:32 PM CDT reply actions

aww man...

...Ryan, you shoulda had that second bowl of Wheaties.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:32 PM CDT reply actions

bags jacked - ZERO outs!!!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 2:32 PM CDT reply actions

errrr since Oh-NO-man is up...

make that 1 out

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions

Oh-NO-man, either way is Ohman or Cedeno!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions

Cedeno!

lol

by vegascubsfan on Sep 21, 2007 2:32 PM CDT reply actions

WTF?

Why Cedeno?
Well, Ohman only let up one run...

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions

can't believe that didn't score at least one run

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 2:32 PM CDT reply actions

Ugh

Cedeno. Why not just have Ohman hit?

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 2:32 PM CDT reply actions

WHAT?????

RONNIE FRAKIN CEDENEO?????????

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 2:33 PM CDT reply actions

I take it back!

I luuuuuuve you Ronnie!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions

Cedeno?!

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:33 PM CDT reply actions

Please Ronny if

you can hit the long ball do it now.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 2:33 PM CDT reply actions

God Help me

if he hits into a DP I will hunt him down.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 2:33 PM CDT reply actions

Ronnie, whatever you do...

...do NOT hit a ground ball.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:33 PM CDT reply actions

I'm calling a CEDENO GRAND SLAM!!!!!!!

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 2:34 PM CDT reply actions

OH MAN!

CEDENO!

You won't get to see
CHERRY
PIE

next to each other on a scorecard together, but

OHMAN
CEDENO

is just as good.

by IllinoisCubs on Sep 21, 2007 2:34 PM CDT reply actions

haha

that's great.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions

Who's the long man today?

Hart?

by BigJimSlade on Sep 21, 2007 2:34 PM CDT reply actions

Kevin Hart?

Probably a bunch of 2 innings from RP like June 29th vs. the Brewers.

Do you want to bring in Traschel or Gallagher right now?

I'd rather do

Hart
Wood
Marmol
Howry

We just had an off day and have another one on Monday.

by IllinoisCubs on Sep 21, 2007 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions

Lou is playing the numbers

Cedeno 0-11 with bags juiced.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 2:34 PM CDT reply actions

if cesar izturis can get 2 hits today

why can't ronny get one?

You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions

I hate Ronny

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 2:34 PM CDT reply actions

I meant

I like Ronny

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions

It's the right spot for him. Kind of.

It's a obvious PH spot, but we don't necessarily want to burn our "good" PH guys.

Unfortunately, Ronnie is also the only other guy on the team who can play SS, right?

by ClosingTime on Sep 21, 2007 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions

OK, Ronnie, I take it back.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:35 PM CDT reply actions

i'll take a hit

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 2:35 PM CDT reply actions

Ronny "overslide" Cedeno???

Boo-YEAH!!!!

Lou looks like a genius.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 2:35 PM CDT reply actions

lay off ronny

right move by Lou there, only RH bat off the bench you dont absolutely need to save for later

and he produces, nice job Ronny

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 21, 2007 2:35 PM CDT reply actions

sweet !!!!!!!!!!!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 2:35 PM CDT reply actions

NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 2:35 PM CDT reply actions

GASPS!!!!! I think I just had a heart attack!

CEDENO ACTUALLY HIT A BALL THAT SCORED A RUN AND DIDN'T GET OUT????????

THUD

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 2:35 PM CDT reply actions

Good Ronny. Thanks!

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 2:35 PM CDT reply actions

Here we go...

...Battle of the Bullpens.

Advantage: Cubs.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:36 PM CDT reply actions

Crown Royal...

down the hatch baby!!!

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 2:37 PM CDT reply actions

Sitting dead red

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 2:37 PM CDT reply actions

Got it

Missed it

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions

SOAR-EE-AHHH-NO!!!

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:37 PM CDT reply actions

I don't think

Santo is getting any rest to get over his flu today.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 2:37 PM CDT reply actions

we HAVE to score more runs.

Bases loaded, no outs? Isn't it a near statistical CERTAINTY?

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 2:37 PM CDT reply actions

Let's go Sori!!!

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 2:37 PM CDT reply actions

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED?

I left with the score 4-1 Cubs!?!

by whatiswrongwithlarussa on Sep 21, 2007 2:37 PM CDT reply actions

Stop leaving.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions

Trust me I won't!

by whatiswrongwithlarussa on Sep 21, 2007 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions

Aight....I move to call a rule...

that NO ONE LEAVES THEIR SEATS TIL THE GAME'S OVER!!!!!

panting.... sorry for the screaming, but my ol' ticker simply can't take this anymore!!!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions

I have

to go take a damn exam in 5 minutes. This is such crap. Thankfully at the rate this game is going I should only miss about an inning.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions

I'll second that.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions

In Harry Caray voice:

He pops it up!

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:38 PM CDT reply actions

C'MON SORI!!!!

by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 2:39 PM CDT reply actions

Great piece of hitting by the all-star

Baseloaded with no outs is a curse for the cubs offense.

by whatiswrongwithlarussa on Sep 21, 2007 2:39 PM CDT reply actions

DeRosa GS here

PLEASE!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 2:39 PM CDT reply actions

wish we were

playing the reds. DeRosa would for sure get a hit now.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 2:39 PM CDT reply actions

Almost 500 posts

and it's bottom of the 3rd.

by IllinoisCubs on Sep 21, 2007 2:41 PM CDT reply actions

going for 1000

thats posts, not SHOTS martyblue!!!!!!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions

Should Monroe have scored?

What am I going to do when the season ends???

by Saratoga on Sep 21, 2007 2:41 PM CDT reply actions

you might figure...

with the top of the order coming up, you shouldn't have to worry about him scoring.

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions

Osoria has nasty stuff

by whatiswrongwithlarussa on Sep 21, 2007 2:41 PM CDT reply actions

just setting up for that away pitch...

by cubs2234 on Sep 21, 2007 2:42 PM CDT reply actions

Bob said:

"On a day like this, when both offenses are in heat."

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 2:42 PM CDT reply actions

Would apply

to a Steve Garvey-led offense.

"5-8-8, 2-3-hundred, Empire!"

by SyneRandberg on Sep 21, 2007 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions

cmon... please, please, please...

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 2:42 PM CDT reply actions

nice k

MMMMM...Fernandos fajitas and margaraitas

by Kinky Reggae on Sep 21, 2007 2:43 PM CDT reply actions

We're making Osoria look like a great pitcher.

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions

that was bad dero

by cubs2234 on Sep 21, 2007 2:43 PM CDT reply actions

Wishful thinking

Pirates hoping not to have to face the 2 for 2 Lee.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 2:43 PM CDT reply actions

WILD PITCH!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 2:44 PM CDT reply actions

M*&%%#^ F&^#

{The rest of this post has been deleted for offensive language more offensive than the last two at bats.}

by whatiswrongwithlarussa on Sep 21, 2007 2:44 PM CDT reply actions

lol

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions

Thank you, no-name Pirates pitcher.

May we have another?

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:44 PM CDT reply actions

well that's one way to tie the game, i still say

it's hero time for lee

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 2:44 PM CDT reply actions

At least Osoria helped us a bit!

Let's hope Lee can tap in the 2 guys on base!! 3-3??

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 2:44 PM CDT reply actions

crazy play 7-7

Len and Bob are quite witty today. lol

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 2:44 PM CDT reply actions

holy TOLEDO

gameday showed that pitch behind Lee, I have never seen that before, but Ill take the early Christmas gift!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 2:45 PM CDT reply actions

Random thoughts

Is it xanax day? Bases loaded, nobody out, crowd's silent.

I've never seen a pitcher wear sunglasses.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 21, 2007 2:45 PM CDT reply actions

HOY!!

Freaky, and I mean F_R_E_A_K_Y things happening in this game....BOTH starting pitchers leaving in the 3rd inning and now that passed ball...

Strap in folks....it is a WILD one!

"The decline of society is rampant...Cubs winning the WS in '07 will make everything right again."

by Bluelou on Sep 21, 2007 2:45 PM CDT reply actions

ERA's beware

by cubs2234 on Sep 21, 2007 2:45 PM CDT reply actions

I guess...

...we'll take runs anyway we can get them, but man I would give my kingdom for a hit here.

by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 2:45 PM CDT reply actions

That works for me.

"They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself." ~Andy Warhol

by BlueW on Sep 21, 2007 2:45 PM CDT reply actions

Down the hatch...

I'm gonna be drunk

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 2:46 PM CDT reply actions

Might have to

close the office door and join you...
I can't take this sober!

by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions

7 shots...

in 1 1/2 hours does the body and mind good.

Not sure if I'll even know the final score or not.

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions

haha

Bad (or Good) day to pick to do shots for every run scored

by vegascubsfan on Sep 21, 2007 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions

No one will think less of you

If you starting take shots of Royal Crown cola. I believe you said you were just going to take shots of Royal Crown.

by IllinoisCubs on Sep 21, 2007 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions

By all means Marty

start cutting the Crown with soda...
You might not make it past the 6th, the rate this thing is going...

by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions

Well....

I am chasing the crown with Dr Pepper....

I'm good for the game, but I'm having college flashbacks here.

And my colon is going to complain tomorrow big time.

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions

you

may or may not die today.

and im pretty sure everyone on this board is sadly rooting for the former....you're on your own. sorry bud

by bgsiggy on Sep 21, 2007 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions

damnit

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:46 PM CDT reply actions

How close was that to going out?

by whatiswrongwithlarussa on Sep 21, 2007 2:46 PM CDT reply actions

okay...so....a new 4 inning ball game...

even score...
New pitchers....

wow...

"The decline of society is rampant...Cubs winning the WS in '07 will make everything right again."

by Bluelou on Sep 21, 2007 2:46 PM CDT reply actions

re: okay...so....a new 4 inning ball game...

Exactly. The Cubs did the bare minimum there and tied it up. There's still plenty of time to win this one.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions

Man at least it's tied

But who would have though of Cedeno, Soriano, DeRosa, and Lee, only Cedeno comes through with the bases loaded.

by IllinoisCubs on Sep 21, 2007 2:46 PM CDT reply actions

2 lousy feet Derrek...

you only needed like 24 more inches.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 2:47 PM CDT reply actions

Was Lee's flyout close to being a HR?

by El Borto on Sep 21, 2007 2:47 PM CDT reply actions

A few more feet and yets.

n/t

by zevkalman on Sep 21, 2007 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions

here comes Hart!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 2:47 PM CDT reply actions

Good Move by Lou

Felix Pie in CF in place of Monroe.

by zevkalman on Sep 21, 2007 2:48 PM CDT reply actions

Only if ...

In this slugfest, he plans to have JJ come in either to pinch hit for Pie, or replace him when Lou has someone else (like Ward) pinch hit for him.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions

Hart's picture

He's keepin it real

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 2:48 PM CDT reply actions

re: Hart's picture

LOL. Kinda reminds me of KFed.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions

hart has a pretty suck cutter...

by cubs2234 on Sep 21, 2007 2:49 PM CDT reply actions

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions

Ok californiachicagoan...

we both are getting our wish today.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 2:49 PM CDT reply actions

is this your wish?

englishrussia.com/images/russian_fight4.jpg

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions

Maybe...unless it ends up like this...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions

Centerfield

When we get to the World Series, against lefties we should start Pie in center, but DH for him. Best of both worlds!

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions

WHAT the...??

I left to walk the dog with bases loaded no outs and they only score 2 runs???

"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Sep 21, 2007 2:49 PM CDT reply actions

What Cub Fan

would walk the dog when the bags are loaded with zero outs?

by zevkalman on Sep 21, 2007 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions

well said

by cubs2234 on Sep 21, 2007 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions

Walk the dog...

when you gotta go, you gotta go..

"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Sep 21, 2007 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions

and this is why you train the dog to go...

in the toilet!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions

OH MAN

that was filthy

by cubs2234 on Sep 21, 2007 2:50 PM CDT reply actions

HEY NO references to

Oh-Man when talking bout a gook looking pitcher.

Explanation: good looking in talent NOT in looks!!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions

WOW 3-pitch at bat

Get 'em Hart!

"They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself." ~Andy Warhol

by BlueW on Sep 21, 2007 2:50 PM CDT reply actions

Back-2-back!

"They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself." ~Andy Warhol

by BlueW on Sep 21, 2007 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions

Good news

is that Hart looks ON today....

"The decline of society is rampant...Cubs winning the WS in '07 will make everything right again."

by Bluelou on Sep 21, 2007 2:50 PM CDT reply actions

That slider is almost as

filthy as Marmol's

"Marmol has become a cult favorite among Cubs fans due to the combination of velocity and movement in his pitches and the wicked awesomeness he displays."

by vtcub on Sep 21, 2007 2:50 PM CDT reply actions

Marquis off the hook

How Marquis is off the hook for a loss after that performance is beyond me. I can see why he was left out of the WS last year. I bet Rich Hill would like to see 7 runs in 3 innings once in a while.

Seems like Marquis has blown an early lead of 3-4 runs a few times lately.

by BringBackRyno on Sep 21, 2007 2:50 PM CDT reply actions

DARE I SAY IT????

an ACTUAL 1-2-3 inning??? in OUR favor???

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 2:51 PM CDT reply actions

Kevin Hart spits fire through his eyes

"We are going to light up the SB Nation server farm like a Christmas tree." - cwyers

by NittanyCub on Sep 21, 2007 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions

WHY?!

"They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself." ~Andy Warhol

by BlueW on Sep 21, 2007 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions

You had to say it, didn't you?

by ClosingTime on Sep 21, 2007 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions

Minor league pitcher of the year at work...

by cubs2234 on Sep 21, 2007 2:51 PM CDT reply actions

and

he's caught by the pacific coast season MVP.

weird.

by bgsiggy on Sep 21, 2007 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions

6 pitches to strikes outs

Is this kid for real?

by whatiswrongwithlarussa on Sep 21, 2007 2:51 PM CDT reply actions

hart looks really sharp today

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 2:51 PM CDT reply actions

Hart isn't elgible for playoff roster, is he??

Don't think he is.

by lemon20pie on Sep 21, 2007 2:51 PM CDT reply actions

Can you explain to me why he wouldn't?

No sarcasm, I just didn't know that a player couldn't be eligible after a certain time from the playoffs after being in the minors

"We are going to light up the SB Nation server farm like a Christmas tree." - cwyers

by NittanyCub on Sep 21, 2007 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions

My understanding is...

....that if you're not called up before Sept. 1st, you're not eligible for the playoff roster.

by lemon20pie on Sep 21, 2007 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions

Now pitch for the Chicago Cubs

The real Slim-Shady!

by whatiswrongwithlarussa on Sep 21, 2007 2:52 PM CDT reply actions

Anyone else watching this on fsn pitt?

I live in western pa and cannot stand bob walk when i have to listen to him on this station

"Things are startin to go our way."

by Bricks and Ivy on Sep 21, 2007 2:52 PM CDT reply actions

Don't know about the rest of you....

But I believe Hart is the secret "commando kid" the Cubs needed in the lineup and think he should definately be on the playoff roster...

IMHO...

"The decline of society is rampant...Cubs winning the WS in '07 will make everything right again."

by Bluelou on Sep 21, 2007 2:53 PM CDT reply actions

Was ball four...

...as much of a strike as GD made it look?

by mistersite on Sep 21, 2007 2:53 PM CDT reply actions

not really

I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Sep 21, 2007 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions

ok.

Gameday made it look like it was waist-high and over the plate. Is something wrong with their machine?

by mistersite on Sep 21, 2007 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions

Thats where the catcher caught the ball

but it was high crossing the plate.

I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Sep 21, 2007 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions

What does VWR stand for?

"We are going to light up the SB Nation server farm like a Christmas tree." - cwyers

by NittanyCub on Sep 21, 2007 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions

virtual waiting room

I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Sep 21, 2007 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions

maybe not a 1-2-3,

but we could still be the first to not give up a run in an inning

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 2:53 PM CDT reply actions

wouldn't that be nice!

whaddya wanna bet that whoever shuts out the other in an inning first wins the game?

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions

well

if you're right, that's now us. Hart got three outs, with no runs, even after the two walks...

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions

You may be asking for too much

by whatiswrongwithlarussa on Sep 21, 2007 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions

well...I AM a Cubs fan

aren't I? ;)

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions

Freddy Bynum

anyone see him get hit in the face last night?

"Things are startin to go our way."

by Bricks and Ivy on Sep 21, 2007 2:54 PM CDT reply actions

re: Freddy Bynum

Ouch. Didn't hear about this. Post a video link if you can find one.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions

it was to a fly ball

not a pitch or anything but im sure it still hurt

"Things are startin to go our way."

by Bricks and Ivy on Sep 21, 2007 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions

Sorry to hear

that. Hope he will be ok.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions

Speaking of ouch...

anyone see Pence run flat out into the OF wall last night?

"The decline of society is rampant...Cubs winning the WS in '07 will make everything right again."

by Bluelou on Sep 21, 2007 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions

is he alright?, i actually liked that kid

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions

yes

he didn't even have to leave the game. i liked him too

"Things are startin to go our way."

by Bricks and Ivy on Sep 21, 2007 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions

93 mph...AND MOVING

by cubs2234 on Sep 21, 2007 2:55 PM CDT reply actions

Seems like the adrenaline...

...wore off for Hart. I hope he can recover here.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:56 PM CDT reply actions

that's it Hart....just throw strikes...

"The decline of society is rampant...Cubs winning the WS in '07 will make everything right again."

by Bluelou on Sep 21, 2007 2:56 PM CDT reply actions

phew

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 2:57 PM CDT reply actions

THIS COULD BE

a 1-2-3-4-5 inning!

It is SEPTEMBER, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Sep 21, 2007 2:57 PM CDT reply actions

ROFLMAOPIMP!!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions

thats

the 1st scoreless half inning of this game

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 21, 2007 2:57 PM CDT reply actions

no runs!!!!!!

anybody know if the pirates have a good long relief guy?

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 2:57 PM CDT reply actions

Hey, a scoreless half-inning. I'll take it.

by mistersite on Sep 21, 2007 2:57 PM CDT reply actions

SCORE-SOME-RUNS!

"They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself." ~Andy Warhol

by BlueW on Sep 21, 2007 2:57 PM CDT reply actions

Holly Metal Balls Batman

and inning with no runs.

by whatiswrongwithlarussa on Sep 21, 2007 2:58 PM CDT reply actions

What a great cash in for Freddie Bynum

First shutout inning of the game!

by IllinoisCubs on Sep 21, 2007 2:58 PM CDT reply actions

Come on Cubs......

I'm sobering up here!!!!!!!!!1

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 2:58 PM CDT reply actions

Not really....

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions

I know we're only in the 4th inning...

but I'm happy we have last at-bats in this one. It's a battle of the bullpens now. I predict Sori will get the GW RBI in the 8th, Cubs win 14-13.

I'm a first time poster from Denver, where we only get to see the Cubs live and in person three games every year.

by Def Kenny T on Sep 21, 2007 2:59 PM CDT reply actions

did

len or bob just called jose hernandez a hall of famer?!?!

what???

i was playing with my dogs...

by bgsiggy on Sep 21, 2007 2:59 PM CDT reply actions

Osoria who?

Who is this guy? We need to rattle him a bit.

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 3:00 PM CDT reply actions

there's

nothing quite like a daywalker to rattle him...

by bgsiggy on Sep 21, 2007 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions

Gameday indicates that...

...Izzy left the game with an injured elbow. I guess we won't be making fun of him anymore after all.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 3:00 PM CDT reply actions

Where's Izzy?

Our favorite Pirate is out of the game! Anyone hear why?

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 3:01 PM CDT reply actions

GOOD RIDDANCE

he's done nothing but hurt us today (of all days in his career, he chooses today to finally hit well!)

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions

the cubs

have 2 jewish players on their 40 man roster. 5% HAS to be the highest in the majors. easily.

by bgsiggy on Sep 21, 2007 3:03 PM CDT reply actions

Red Sox have Youkilis and J.D. Drew.

I don't know if anyone else on the team is Jewish though.

"Marmol has become a cult favorite among Cubs fans due to the combination of velocity and movement in his pitches and the wicked awesomeness he displays."

by vtcub on Sep 21, 2007 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions

j.d. drew

is jewish?

by bgsiggy on Sep 21, 2007 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm pretty sure...

Could be wrong though. I watch most of the Red Sox games because I live in New England.

"Marmol has become a cult favorite among Cubs fans due to the combination of velocity and movement in his pitches and the wicked awesomeness he displays."

by vtcub on Sep 21, 2007 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions

hee...

no, no, he's DREWISH... :P

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions

Wish upon a Weinstein...

I think Peter is looking for some runs here...

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions

i don't think i've ever seen a pitcher

wearing sunglasses before

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 3:03 PM CDT reply actions

re: i don't think i've ever seen a pitcher

I think the closer for the Marlins wears them. Can't think of his name off-hand. Y'know, that Terminator-lookin' dude.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions

ah, yeah, you're right.

fortunately for us, wearing sunglasses if you're a pitcher is incredibly lame

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions

WHATs the record for most posts in a game???

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 3:03 PM CDT reply actions

1200 something...

"The decline of society is rampant...Cubs winning the WS in '07 will make everything right again."

by Bluelou on Sep 21, 2007 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions

agreed

1200+

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions

way this is going...

wouldn't surprise me if we hit 2000!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions

LOL

lets do it!!! surprise the heck outta AL.

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions

i know bautista caught that,

but soto crushed that ball

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 3:04 PM CDT reply actions

Two goose eggs in a row????

by park on Sep 21, 2007 3:04 PM CDT reply actions

Zeroes

What are these Zero things I keep hearing about?

Wouldn't it be possible for Hart to play in the post-season if someone on our post-season roster goes down with an injury? I think that's the K-Rod rule the Angels exploited in 2002; someone with good knowledge of MLB rules, please let us know.

Wrigley Field...AKA The Pit of Despair

by TMOX on Sep 21, 2007 3:07 PM CDT reply actions

Hart should bean Osoria!

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 3:08 PM CDT reply actions

Hart gets it done.

Very nice.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 3:10 PM CDT reply actions

I heart Hart!!!

I'm stupid.

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 3:10 PM CDT reply actions

Not stupid, drunk.

There's a difference. Being drunk permits certain things. Chat it up!

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions

His performance....

Deserves a shot of crown royal.

I'm proudly contributing to the biggest gameday thread every with everysostupid posts.

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions

Andy I apparentlyy...

likey to puty y's randomlyy at the endy of myy words.

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions

Just drunk.

A forgivable offense...

by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions

Put down the glass

and step away from the Crown Royal!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions

If I do.....

I'll blame myself if they colapse. Being a Cub fan, you should understand.

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions

I want attention!! Look at meee!!

"We are going to light up the SB Nation server farm like a Christmas tree." - cwyers

by NittanyCub on Sep 21, 2007 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions

Kevn Hart for

5th starter position.

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 3:10 PM CDT reply actions

even 1,2,3

can't be normal... barehanded? Yeek...

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 3:10 PM CDT reply actions

Yes

3 eggs in a row. Time to get to double digit runs NOW.

by park on Sep 21, 2007 3:10 PM CDT reply actions

Great now we are watching a pitch duel

WTF?!?

by whatiswrongwithlarussa on Sep 21, 2007 3:11 PM CDT reply actions

Cubs

just decided to give marty a break

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 21, 2007 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions

Somebody in Chicago....

tell them I don't need a break.

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions

Let's Light them up this 1/2 inning!

"They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself." ~Andy Warhol

by BlueW on Sep 21, 2007 3:11 PM CDT reply actions

No!

Dont let Pie hit.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 3:13 PM CDT reply actions

You got your wish.

Pie did NOT hit.

by ClosingTime on Sep 21, 2007 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions

does pie know what a bat is???

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 3:13 PM CDT reply actions

Should Hart hit?

Is he a long guy? Able to eat 3 or 4 innings?

by El Borto on Sep 21, 2007 3:14 PM CDT reply actions

just let him paly D and PR

like FUld does

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 3:14 PM CDT reply actions

Help me out...

Is the Pie talk all hype? He's a stud on defense, yet he couldn't hit a basketball thrown by a major leaguer! what gives?

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 3:14 PM CDT reply actions

He needs to adjust to this level.

He's had growing pains after every promotion. They're just going to be very visible for the time being.

He brings things to the table that this team needs - speed and the ability to play CF. I don't like using him so early, b/c if there is a crucial AB for him later vs. a RHP, they're going to PH Jones, which is a defensive downgrade. But whatever we have to do, I guess.

by ClosingTime on Sep 21, 2007 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions

Pie Theriot Fuld

Wow. This was a give up half inning.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 3:15 PM CDT reply actions

I may be wrong here

but I think that was Fuld's FIRST ML at-bat!! Despite being put in games, he's never had an official at-bat or even SEEN home plate as a Cubs batter!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions

He's seen home plate 3 times...

since he has pinch run a few times and scored.

You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions

right...but that was the 1st he's seen home plate

as a BATTER, which was the point I was trying to make.

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions

Cmon Sammy Fuld!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 3:15 PM CDT reply actions

Gameday

is showing Fontenot

by El Borto on Sep 21, 2007 3:16 PM CDT reply actions

didn't Al say Fuld is pretty smart?

Hopefully he can think one out over the wall.

by montanacubby on Sep 21, 2007 3:16 PM CDT reply actions

he

went to stanford and his dad is a prof at UNH

by bgsiggy on Sep 21, 2007 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions

and is now showing Hart

by El Borto on Sep 21, 2007 3:16 PM CDT reply actions

Sigh...

...Osoria for Cy Young.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 3:16 PM CDT reply actions

wierd first AB for fuld

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 3:17 PM CDT reply actions

what the heck was that?

didn't he foul it off his foot?

by montanacubby on Sep 21, 2007 3:17 PM CDT reply actions

F#@K the heck?

What happened during Fuld's AB?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 3:17 PM CDT reply actions

I'm actually glad

to see Eyre come in.

weird.

by El Borto on Sep 21, 2007 3:18 PM CDT reply actions

Well..considering...

he has a 1.02 ERA or so since the Break, I'm okay with him coming in and keeping the treasure chest closed on the Bucs!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions

Scott Eyre's Post Break ERA = SMOKESCREEN

If the pants fit...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Yours or Your Wifes???????????

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions

That's a nice rain fly.

Did you get that at Gander Mountain or Army Surplus?

Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 21, 2007 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions

Your sick...

sick i say!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions

gosh!! do we

always need to be behind in order to score some runs!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 3:18 PM CDT reply actions

good point.

we could definitely break the trend and score some runs (lots would be nice, though one more in the end will do!)

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions

arghhhhh

Come on Scott.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 3:23 PM CDT reply actions

DAMN IT, EYRE

"They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself." ~Andy Warhol

by BlueW on Sep 21, 2007 3:23 PM CDT reply actions

sorry, Eyre...

"They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself." ~Andy Warhol

by BlueW on Sep 21, 2007 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions

three scoreless

for the PP in a row.

Let's get some runs!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 3:24 PM CDT reply actions

Yeah PP!!

Let's Go PP!!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions

If you insist...oooh, that's warm.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions

QUIT IT!!!!!

i just burst out laughing in the middle of the office!

AWSOME!!!!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions

And the top of the order coming up for the CCs

by JFCubFan on Sep 21, 2007 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions

Don't let Adam LaLoosh be...

the Pirates DeRosa to us!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 3:24 PM CDT reply actions

Nice work Steevie!

You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 3:25 PM CDT reply actions

ROTFLMAO!

;)

There are 3 things in my life which I really love: God, family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit.

by cubsfan4life on Sep 21, 2007 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions

wow a hell of a game going on

7-7 in the sixth?? wow...and Cedeno with a hit...wow!!

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 21, 2007 3:27 PM CDT reply actions

here we go now...

a Carey in the broadcast booth, Sori on base, DeRosa up...

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 3:27 PM CDT reply actions

It's a start...

Now, for the finish. let's push some runs across.

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 3:27 PM CDT reply actions

alright sori

let's get some runs!!!!!!!

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 3:27 PM CDT reply actions

Soriano gets his 2nd hit

hit it like a tennis forehand

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 3:27 PM CDT reply actions

I liked his first hit much better.

But I'll take it.

"They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself." ~Andy Warhol

by BlueW on Sep 21, 2007 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions

Who's in the booth?

n/t

Bulls 402 ta zip... but Micheal Jordan will be held to under 200 points. - Todd O'Connor

by Lou In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 3:28 PM CDT reply actions

Harry's widow

nice gal

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions

Dutchie Caray

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions

foul....uuuuu

he hook

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 3:28 PM CDT reply actions

what?

have you been drinking?

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions

Come on Cubs!!!

The Ball Hawks are waiting!!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 3:30 PM CDT reply actions

Looking like Prince Fielder

n/t

Bulls 402 ta zip... but Micheal Jordan will be held to under 200 points. - Todd O'Connor

by Lou In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions

D-Lee

Yeah!

Bulls 402 ta zip... but Micheal Jordan will be held to under 200 points. - Todd O'Connor

by Lou In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 3:30 PM CDT reply actions

Another hit for D-Lee

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 3:30 PM CDT reply actions

d-lee!

another hit...lets make it happen ramirez!

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 21, 2007 3:30 PM CDT reply actions

YES!!!!!!

YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 3:31 PM CDT reply actions

wow, gotta take advantage of that error,

maybe a bomb by a-ram?

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 3:31 PM CDT reply actions

Good thing you asked nicely!

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions

BYE BYE BASEBALL!!

"The decline of society is rampant...Cubs winning the WS in '07 will make everything right again."

by Bluelou on Sep 21, 2007 3:31 PM CDT reply actions

Tough day to get Lee out

And even tougher to keep Aramis IN (the yard)!!!!

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 3:32 PM CDT reply actions

God do I love that man!

Go Rami! Go Cubs!

There are 3 things in my life which I really love: God, family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit.

by cubsfan4life on Sep 21, 2007 3:32 PM CDT reply actions

RAMI!

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 3:32 PM CDT reply actions

AAGAHHAAHHAHGHGHHHHHHHHH!!!

ARAM YOU ARE THE SHIZZZNIT!!!!!!

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 3:32 PM CDT reply actions

OMG!!!!! 10-7

Ramirez is on fire today.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 3:32 PM CDT reply actions

3-run again RAMI

HOLY COW!

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 3:32 PM CDT reply actions

I CALLED THAT ONE!!!!!!!!

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 3:32 PM CDT reply actions

ANOTHER

3-RUN JACK!!!

Bulls 402 ta zip... but Micheal Jordan will be held to under 200 points. - Todd O'Connor

by Lou In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 3:32 PM CDT reply actions

DRINK ONE FOR ME MARTY!!!!!!!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 3:32 PM CDT reply actions

Drinky time!!!!!

Oh yeah, hammered I will be!!!!!!!!!!1

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 3:32 PM CDT reply actions

1 down...

with ease.

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions

2 down...

A fifth don't last as long as I remember....

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions

Give me a minute...

geez

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions

drink up yoda!! drink up :)

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions

i'm at work still

and very envious. DLee should've had that...I really would like a drinky.

by montanacubby on Sep 21, 2007 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions

Open the flood gates...

Leave no doubt.

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 3:32 PM CDT reply actions

Curtain Call

anyone?

Bulls 402 ta zip... but Micheal Jordan will be held to under 200 points. - Todd O'Connor

by Lou In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 3:33 PM CDT reply actions

HELL YEA!!!!!

Cardinals?? Stick a fork in em - they are DONE.

by iluvryno on Sep 21, 2007 3:33 PM CDT reply actions

Yeah ARam...

is the man!

You ARE freaking out MAN!

by crw89 on Sep 21, 2007 3:33 PM CDT reply actions

Aramis Ramirez is a full grown MAN!!!

He will HURT you!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 3:33 PM CDT reply actions

AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!

"They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself." ~Andy Warhol

by BlueW on Sep 21, 2007 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions

Dude

Your pictures are the best. Keep them coming!

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions

Personally

I think they suck and are ruining the site. But I guess this site is starting to chase the lowest common denominator.

I'm seriously thinking of quitting this site because I can't read anything anymore without having to weigh through this piece of toe jam's stupid pictures.

This is a fucking Cubs message board. Not a fucking Spencer's greeting card shop.

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh Timmers on Sep 21, 2007 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions

GO BACK TO LA

and root for the Dodgers or the fish in the Pacific. Its all in good fun and thats what baseball fans are all about.

See Ya!!!!!!!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions

LOL...sorry Josh...

I didn't know you were so....sensitive.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions

uh-huh

Door. Ass.

Don't let one hit the other.

by lancaster99 on Sep 21, 2007 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions

Don't leave Josh

I too find the picture a bit annoyig after a while, it reminds me of A League Of Her Own to be honest.

You put good insight into this site, and I really enjoy your knowledge of minor league happenings.

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Sep 21, 2007 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions

Agreed

You offer good insight and intelligent posts. Dont leave man

"We are going to light up the SB Nation server farm like a Christmas tree." - cwyers

by NittanyCub on Sep 21, 2007 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions

10-7!

Today, in the NFL, the Bears beat the Steelers at...

wait a second...

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 3:34 PM CDT reply actions

Wait, correction...

this is a misprint, there's no way in hell the Bears score 10 points! :) Sorry, I couldn't resist.

by eamuscatuli1881 on Sep 21, 2007 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions

ESPN Scoreboard top performers

are all in Cubs uniforms. Aramis, Fonzie, and Izzy!

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 3:34 PM CDT reply actions

Soto

Soto just replaced Fonzie as a Top Performer.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions

AHHHHH!

by cubs ftw on Sep 21, 2007 3:34 PM CDT reply actions

Big!

How big will a 2 1/2 game lead be with 8 games to go??? No seriously, I can't do math....

Bulls 402 ta zip... but Micheal Jordan will be held to under 200 points. - Todd O'Connor

by Lou In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 3:34 PM CDT reply actions

PLEASE DON'T count

your chickens. Yet.

Several here did this in the "Dempster Game" against the Dodgers...

LEt's wait until the 9th and see where it is.

It is SEPTEMBER, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Sep 21, 2007 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions

HEY WE CAN DREAM CANT WE!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions

This is the Rammi Game!

"They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself." ~Andy Warhol

by BlueW on Sep 21, 2007 3:34 PM CDT reply actions

ARAM IS A STUD

Just pointing out the obvious, but he's CLUTCH!

by Def Kenny T on Sep 21, 2007 3:34 PM CDT reply actions

Aramis

remember last year when people said he couldnt carry a team by himself...

he's becoming our big papi

soooooo many big hits!

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 21, 2007 3:35 PM CDT reply actions

CAN ANY OF YOU

remember ONE game in the last MONTH where the game was "well in hand", or a "blow out"?

The only game I recall was one in Cincinnatti in August, I believe.

I have no fingernails anymore, and my fingers hurt when I type.

It is SEPTEMBER, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Sep 21, 2007 3:35 PM CDT reply actions

The crowd woke up

from its' nappy-nap!!

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 21, 2007 3:35 PM CDT reply actions

SOTO!

12-7!!!!

Think it'll be enough? :P

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 3:35 PM CDT reply actions

Soto is now

our full time starting catcher. Done.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 3:35 PM CDT reply actions

Cubs catcher

And for those of you who said Soto would be the best Cubs catcher if given a chance, I stand corrected.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions

I stand corrected

Takes a man to admit a mistake, CC...

And though you could be correct about Soto, we can NOT forget the offense and pitcher handling that Kendall has provided the Cubs in the heat of the summer and dog days.

A good team makes adjustments DURING the year as well as off season, and Hendry has been fantastic this year.

But I think the jury is still out about how Soto will handle the pitchers, which we all know is VERY key - especially in the playoffs.

Hopefully, he will be, at worst, a great second backstop that hits great in OTB situations.

"The decline of society is rampant...Cubs winning the WS in '07 will make everything right again."

by Bluelou on Sep 21, 2007 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions

I like Kendall....but....

AGREED!!! Kendall can be his mentor...as a backup! Let Soto start!

I do think that it was wise to wait to call him up when we did. It's clearly paying off well!!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions

SOTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SOTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 3:36 PM CDT reply actions

Geovany...

I LOVE THIS GUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 3:36 PM CDT reply actions

SOTO!

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 3:36 PM CDT reply actions

I LOVE SOTO

lets cut the crap with this jason kendall veteran leadership stuff

GEOVANY SOTO!!!!!!!

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 21, 2007 3:36 PM CDT reply actions

SERIOUSLY!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions

SOTO IS A MONSTER!!!!!!

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 3:36 PM CDT reply actions

Thank goodness..

he's on our side!

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions

SO-TWO!!

"They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself." ~Andy Warhol

by BlueW on Sep 21, 2007 3:36 PM CDT reply actions

"That kid can HIT!"

-Len Kasper

by cubs2234 on Sep 21, 2007 3:36 PM CDT reply actions

Kendall

So what's the over/under that Kendall just lost his starting role 3 minutes ago?

by ak123 on Sep 21, 2007 3:37 PM CDT reply actions

Betting

Just curious, how would you over/under that?

Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 21, 2007 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions

Guess you couldn't

But you got my point...

by ak123 on Sep 21, 2007 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions

YES!!!!!!

I'm about to fall out of my chair at work. Silent insanity in the office!!!!!!!

GO CUBS GO!!!!

by The Ryno and I Know on Sep 21, 2007 3:37 PM CDT reply actions

My god!!

I'm going to die.

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 3:37 PM CDT reply actions

Marty?

you said you didnt need a break....

u ok?

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 21, 2007 3:37 PM CDT reply actions

I'm on #10

I won't lie.

11 and 12 will have to wait, I want to see the Cubs win the WS before I croak.

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions

dont let us down!!!!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions

So....Marmol or Eyre again in the 7th?

"The decline of society is rampant...Cubs winning the WS in '07 will make everything right again."

by Bluelou on Sep 21, 2007 3:38 PM CDT reply actions

Eyre

Try to get one more inning out of him. I have a feeling we could need a lot of arms this weekend.

Play SOTO!!!

by Hugest Canadian Cubs Fan on Sep 21, 2007 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions

Wrong

Marmol it is...

Play SOTO!!!

by Hugest Canadian Cubs Fan on Sep 21, 2007 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions

I'd say Eyre again, with Wood warming up.

Of course, I'll defer to Lou.

by ClosingTime on Sep 21, 2007 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions

Coincidence that Dutchie is in the booth?

I think not.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 3:38 PM CDT reply actions

Soto is making a statement!!!

You ARE freaking out MAN!

by crw89 on Sep 21, 2007 3:38 PM CDT reply actions

Chant

What are they chanting?

by ak123 on Sep 21, 2007 3:38 PM CDT reply actions

What is the record for comments in a thread?

Can we break it today? Come on Cubbies!!! We need 10 more runs!

Cubs fans are 90% scar tissue and 100% insane

by Bridge2Far on Sep 21, 2007 3:38 PM CDT reply actions

I believe...

I may have a slight man-crush in Geovany. Is that wrong?

Play SOTO!!!

by Hugest Canadian Cubs Fan on Sep 21, 2007 3:38 PM CDT reply actions

(Lisping)

I guess. He's cute and all, but he needs to hit the gym and do some sit ups.

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions

no problem

unless you cross swords

by JFCubFan on Sep 21, 2007 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions

Crush all

you want be he's mine* all mine. ;-)

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions

That's cool

I had one on Theriot in July and August.

I also had one in late 2005 on Cedeno. That one I'm now embarrassed about.

by ak123 on Sep 21, 2007 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions

Soto rules...

...but let's not let that reflect poorly on Kendall. I feel a lot better about the Soto/Kendall catching rotation than Barrett/Blanco, or, god forbid, Bowen/Koyie Hill.

by Chadnudj on Sep 21, 2007 3:38 PM CDT reply actions

it only reflects poorly

on the fact that the Cubs should've tried Soto before going out and making a move for Kendall

if for some reason Soto doesnt hit like this when he comes up that move makes it likely that we're staring at Jason Kendall as our starting C next season with Soto wasting away on the bench

the Kendall move never should've been made and Soto should've been given a chance from the start, he did everything he needed to in AAA

the Kendall move didnt turn out to be a bad one because we're in ok shape and we didnt give up much, but it was a completely unnecessary move

and many people on this site defended it and voiced caution against Soto simply because they valued things that cant be proven in any particular way that they actually help the ballclub

Soto's been a better player than Jason Kendall for over 4 months now.... thank god he made the most of a few spot starts and opened this organizations eyes

end rant.

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 21, 2007 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions

I may be mistaken

but wasn't Soto hurt for a while and was playing 1st during the time this whole Kendall, Barrett, Bowen, Hill thing went down?

I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Sep 21, 2007 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions

You are correct.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions

kind of

Soto was out but only for a few days

Cubs made the move for Kendall on July 17th

July 17th and 18th Soto was out, July 19th he started behind home plate

the A's were DYING to get rid of Kendall and no one else in the majors wanted him, the Cubs could've waited till August to make that trade through waivers even

i mean when do the A's ever eat salary on a player....

they had time to let Soto play and see if he was really ready or not (if he hadnt already shown enough at the AAA level)

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 21, 2007 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions

Kendall trade

Who did we trade for Kendall anyways? I think the Cubs might be able to chalk up a rare win against A's management.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions

jeremy blevins

he's a middle reliever at best

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 21, 2007 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions

Plus Soto came out of nowhere this year

The Cubs were not going to designate him the starter in July based on 2 to 3 months of playing that were far better than anything he ever did before. If Soto was a highly touted prospect that would have been a different story but prior to this year he was looking like a career backup at best. There are many cases of players getting hot for a few months and fading out. I think the Cubs needed some time to really see if this guy was for real.

by rlpete on Sep 21, 2007 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions

yes and no

his numbers were pedestrian in the minors but he was also WAY YOUNG for every league he played in

thus his numbers needed to be taken with a grain of salt, this year at 23 in the PCL he put up the best offensive season of any player

23 in AAA having best season in the entire league makes you an immediate prospect

and someone that should've at least gotten a chance before going outside the organization

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 21, 2007 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions

Cubs needed some time

They still do - in how Soto will be able to handle the Pitchers.

They should be able to see that in the remaining games though.
Which again is perfect timing in bringing him up.

"The decline of society is rampant...Cubs winning the WS in '07 will make everything right again."

by Bluelou on Sep 21, 2007 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions

"handling the pitchers"

wouldnt it be obvious by now that Jason Kendall can't "handle the pitchers"

Michael Barrett catcher ERA = 4.17
Jason Kendall catcher ERA = 4.22

he's the same defensively as Barrett... we're allowing the same number of runs (actually a few more) with Kendall behind the plate

how on earth if he's "handling pitchers" so well or if this is his positive trait is it resulting in more runs being allowed

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 21, 2007 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions

and pray tell...

who would you have had as our catcher if we didn't go after Kendall? Soto/Hill? Soto/Blanco? Please! Kendall's actually hit close to .300 since he became a Cub. I think it was wise they waited until when they did to call him up. We tend to rush our prospects too quickly. Their patience is paying off dividends as you can see!!

I do think it'll be Soto starting next year with Kendall as his backup. That is also very likely the way it'll be throughout the playoffs!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions

No Kendall

I like Kendall lately but whoever owns The Cubs will want to drop some money. Kendall will be an easy drop unless he takes a huge salary drop next year.

by ak123 on Sep 21, 2007 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions

you say no Kendall...I say no Blanco!

Kendall's much more reliable AND a better hitter than Blanco! At least Kendall can play!

If you say no Kendall, then who's our backup? Blanco? GAG Hill? Just shoot me now and put me out of my misery! On second thought, wait til after we win the WS this year, THEN shoot me! That way I'll die happy!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions

Blanco

He is signed for 1 more year I think. Kendall is a free agent...

by ak123 on Sep 21, 2007 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions

I know he is

but I think we need to find a way to get rid of Blanco and re-sign Kendall. I'm fine with Kendall being a backup and he's said he wants to come back and play for the Cubs. I'm sure he'll do what's necessary to make it work.

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions

we'd have been fine

with Soto/Hill or Soto/Blanco once Henry was healthy

its simple to say the move worked out well now, but we could've had this production (both offensively and defensively) from Geovany way before and maybe this race isnt even as tight as it is

the point is the timing of the move for Kendall didnt need to made right then, the Cubs could've given Soto the chance and seen if they needed someone else

and by getting Kendall they delayed us getting a look at Soto, by delaying a look at him they made it all the more likely he wouldn't be our starting catcher next season

if Soto had a few bad AB's during his spot starts we'd be looking at signing Kendall in the offseason to some 2-3 year deal woth 5-6 million and wasting money on a spot we already had a better player in house

and we cant have Kendall and Soto next year because we have Blanco under contract... and teams dont keep 3 catchers on their 25 man roster very often at all

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 21, 2007 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions

Blanco is not, and never has been, 100% healthy.

One of the reasons that he made the 25-man roster RIGHT AT Sept 1, and then played his last game on Sept. 3, is that he gives us some more roster flexibility. If Hendry places Blanco on the DL, then some rookie who was not on the roster in time to be post-season eligible (Hart?) can take his spot.

Blanco is under contract for next year, but the odds are pretty strong that he's going to get a $3M severance/retirement package, especially if Kendall's willing to take a part-time role.

by ClosingTime on Sep 21, 2007 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions

How can you question these results?!

We have no way of knowing what might have been.

What we do know is that we're in a pretty sweet situation at catcher right now, with a hotshot youngster who may be the top catching prospect in all of baseball, an veteran with an above-average OBP and a knack for coming through in big spots, and, well, a guy who is going to be a $3M roving catching instructor in 2008.

But I digress. When we hit rock bottom, our catcher was Michael Barrett - lousy offensively, and abysmal defensively. Hendry chose to acquire a MLB veteran catcher, and eventually turned Barrett into Jason Kendall (at league minimum $$) and Kyler Burke, who suddenly found his power stroke in Boise.

Hendry's other option was to promote Soto, who was mashing at AAA. However, at that point, Soto was 1.) injured and unable to play C, and 2.) wrapping up what constituted 2 incredibly out-of-character huge offensive months.

If we'd thrown Soto into the fire, there's no guarantee that he would have translated his early 2007 AAA success into MLB success.

Hendry and Lou chose to bring Soto along slowly, and the result was a PCL MVP award, and a September audition that is exceeding anyone's expectations.

In the meantime, Kendall exceeded all of our expectations offensively, and won some games for us with some timely hitting.

It looks to me like Hendry handled his roster - and his star prospect - absolutely perfectly. I don't know how we can realistically ask for anything more.

by ClosingTime on Sep 21, 2007 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions

yes it worked out well

but it also had the potential for the worst case scenario

which is Kendall shows just enough to keep Soto bench-ridden

we dont get an idea of how "ready" Soto is and sign Kendall to a deal that prohibits Geovany from getting a chance at starting next season and commits more unnecessary dollars to a position that we already had a cheap in house solution (who was out of options mind you)

yes it worked out well, but again i dont judge things "purely" on results

i judge the process

and with the A's having no other potential suitors for Kendall and the Cubs having the hottest hitting catching prospect in all of baseball who was healthy enough to be behind the plate TWO GAMES AFTER THE TRADE WAS MADE, i think they should've waited it out and let Soto catch

the Kendall move could've been made in late July or even August as he EASILY would've gotten through waivers while hitting .220 with a slugging % below .370 and making 8 million

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 21, 2007 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions

i judge the process

That's your choice.

I go for the results - which is what determines Worlds Series victories.

The RESULTS of the Sox in '05, and how they've fallen by the "process" sinced then...reinforces that Hendry bringing Kendall over with his bat was a great move.

"The decline of society is rampant...Cubs winning the WS in '07 will make everything right again."

by Bluelou on Sep 21, 2007 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions

Every move has a potential "worst case"

What if they'd handed the job to Soto, and he'd fallen on his face? Or regressed into his pre-2007 self?

The only real option would have been to look outside the organization for the 2008 opening day catcher, at rather large $$ for a rather old guy. And that's on top of the cash they already owe Blanco.

"Minor league seasoning" isn't just myth. Soto had never hit before this season, and getting full year's worth of success and the resulting confidence at the plate has worked wonders.

The process worked. Soto's development has been spectacular, and the team has gotten above-average production on the cheap from the C position all year. The logical conclusion is that he has been handled correctly by the organization.

One final note - there's no way that Kendall was going to get a big $$ multi-year deal from anyone. He's going to be looking for low dollars - he may even return to spell Soto next season.

Blanco is not, and was not, an option. He will made a very good, although expensive, roving minor league catching instructor next year.

by ClosingTime on Sep 21, 2007 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions

see thats where i disagree

no one wanted Kendall, so the worst case scenario is Soto falls flat on his face and we trade for Kendall. The A's were in NO HURRY to deal him since they were willing to eat 85% of his salary, something that team never does

and if Soto fell flat on his face we needed an everyday catcher in 08 regardless of whether we got Kendall or not, meaning we could still get Kendall and still be forced to committ money to him IF we felt Soto wasnt going to be a major league calibur catcher

that scenario isnt nearly as bad as never finding out IF SOTO CAN PLAY and then giving the job to Kendall

that type of process leads you to ignoring in house options in the future and continue to search for outside options

since outside options always cost more than internal options it leads to a problem in philosophy if your team has any type of budget

and as for Kendall not getting a big multi year deal from anyone... we gave Blanco 2.2 million a year, you dont think Kendall would get 2 yrs 10-12 million?????

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 21, 2007 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions

SOTO sees the ball...

and he hits the ball...hard! LOVING this offensive explosion, especially after giving up the five spot in the third.

by Def Kenny T on Sep 21, 2007 3:39 PM CDT reply actions

Soto just made himself the starting catcher

for next season...and Ramirez TWO three run bombs!?!?! you kidding me!!

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 21, 2007 3:39 PM CDT reply actions

No kidding,

I really think when we look back on this game, and we will, we should call it the "Ramirez Game".

"They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself." ~Andy Warhol

by BlueW on Sep 21, 2007 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions

Ramy was just a little anxious

you know, anxious about getting to 100 RBI for the year. he just figured he'd do it today! (two more)

by Mr Snrub on Sep 21, 2007 3:40 PM CDT reply actions

9-10 v Cards, the make-up game

was a blow out. This game is faaaaaaaaarrrrrr from over, trust me. Unless the Cubs can put another 5-spot on the board, then I would consider this over.

These are the games I grew up with, but have vanished with the advent of global warming and 'changing' wind patterns. As Len said, this would be the 20th game the wind blew out.

In the 60's and 70s, the wind seemingly blew out every game -- and bad Cubs pitching made it worse.

DO NOT consider this game over.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 21, 2007 3:41 PM CDT reply actions

Marmol

I am tempted to not want Marmol in a "blowout" win. But 5 runs with 3 innings to go on a day where runs are as cheap as they have been at Wrigley in a long time ... ok bring in our closer.

That's closer as in what he does, not what his job title is.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 3:42 PM CDT reply actions

marmol is disgusting!!!!! so is soto!!!!!

I LOVE IT!!!!!

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 3:42 PM CDT reply actions

Disgusting...

in a lovable way!
(c'mon someone find a picture to post!)

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions

you sure bout that

santo is pretty disgusting!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions

That looked like a strike...

...on Gameday.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 3:43 PM CDT reply actions

NO NO NO

WALKS with a 5 run lead!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 3:43 PM CDT reply actions

two on, two outs

come on Marmol..keep that ERA going south..

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 21, 2007 3:46 PM CDT reply actions

goddamnit...here we go...

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 3:46 PM CDT reply actions

I could see Kendall

as a coach for catchers/pitchers next year or soon down the road...

It is SEPTEMBER, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Sep 21, 2007 3:46 PM CDT reply actions

C'mon Marmol,Shut these guys down.

"They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself." ~Andy Warhol

by BlueW on Sep 21, 2007 3:46 PM CDT reply actions

GOT IM!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 3:46 PM CDT reply actions

#11

is down.

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 3:47 PM CDT reply actions

YEAH!!!!

That's how Carlos Marmol rolls!!!!

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 3:47 PM CDT reply actions

Marmol doing his Dempster impression

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 3:47 PM CDT reply actions

what i'd really like to see

is marmol do his impression of dempster doing his harry caray impression!

by Mr Snrub on Sep 21, 2007 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions

he gone!

by cubs2234 on Sep 21, 2007 3:47 PM CDT reply actions

no, no, please no

When those WS announcer's say that, it makes my ears bleed.

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions

i agree

it's the most terrible thing to hear in the world

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions

for sure

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions

YES!!!

"They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself." ~Andy Warhol

by BlueW on Sep 21, 2007 3:47 PM CDT reply actions

Don't make Marmol mad

You won't like him when he is angry.

by whatiswrongwithlarussa on Sep 21, 2007 3:47 PM CDT reply actions

gameday screwed up?

Phelps AB:

Called strike
Called strike
Swinging Strike
ball (!?!?!?!)
Swinging Strike?

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 21, 2007 3:48 PM CDT reply actions

NICE JOB MARMOL!!!!!!!!!

by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 3:48 PM CDT reply actions

I'm so drunk....

I hear Harry singing the 7th!

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 3:48 PM CDT reply actions

where's #12?

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions

#12

is history.

I'm now chicken pecking the keyboard and squinting heavily.

This is gonna hurt.

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions

well get ready for #13

with Lee up and DeRosa on 2nd!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions

I just sang along

and the dogs think I am crazy.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 3:49 PM CDT reply actions

Okay....either "Beetle Juice" Howry

or Woddy?

"The decline of society is rampant...Cubs winning the WS in '07 will make everything right again."

by Bluelou on Sep 21, 2007 3:49 PM CDT reply actions

Sorry...WOODY

Howry or Woody in the 8th?

"The decline of society is rampant...Cubs winning the WS in '07 will make everything right again."

by Bluelou on Sep 21, 2007 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions

re: Sorry...WOODY

With all due respect to Wood, for God's sake I hope it's Howry.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions

I dunno....Woody did pretty good there....

"The decline of society is rampant...Cubs winning the WS in '07 will make everything right again."

by Bluelou on Sep 21, 2007 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions

hey, look.

JJ is out again. Sigh.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 3:49 PM CDT reply actions

Get up from your computer

and watch the damn game. JJ ripped it. To put a guy down for that, does not speak well of you.

by californiachicagoan on Sep 21, 2007 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions

True that...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm at work

and JJ rips a lot of balls. They just tend to be at fielders. He rarely works a count.

I -know- he's hitting well; his batting average reflects that.

It just doesn't SEEM like he's hitting well.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions

Did the Harry recording work?

On the radio all i heard was Dutchie singing

by AndHart120 on Sep 21, 2007 3:49 PM CDT reply actions

yea didnt

sound good they could of done that better.

put soriano in the 5-hole please!!!!

by tbizzle83 on Sep 21, 2007 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions

Carlos Z...

needs to touch the right arm of Carlos M. and absorb some of his Carlos mojo. Throw strikes and trust your stuff and good things will happen.

by Def Kenny T on Sep 21, 2007 3:50 PM CDT reply actions

There's a risk...

the reverse effect could happen.
i get nightmares thinking about it.

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions

i laughed very hard at that throw

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 3:53 PM CDT reply actions

I hope this

Pirates defense shows up for the whole series.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 3:53 PM CDT reply actions

Just checking in

here and on gameday (stupid job). Looks like a wild one. Marquis must have stunk, but it looks like the pen is getting the job done. Tack on about another five or six boys.

by qccub on Sep 21, 2007 3:53 PM CDT reply actions

YEAH!!!!

Piling it on, DLEE!!!!

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 3:54 PM CDT reply actions

football score once again!

by cubs ftw on Sep 21, 2007 3:54 PM CDT reply actions

Soto

will probably be the starter next season. Isn't that good enough for you? This is a good tandem of vet/youth. Kendall's work ethic can only help Soto.

This team, as posted has shown it can use its' kids use and change direction if a kid comes through when given a chance -- which wasn't the case under Dusty -- Theriot, the obvious example.

Yes, Kendall's arm is gone -- but his OBP is going to help this team, should it continuw its' way to the post season.

13 to 7 -- one more run, then it's a laugher.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 21, 2007 3:54 PM CDT reply actions

Theriot

got 134 ABs under Baker last year, tore the cover off the ball and then started this season on the Bench under Pineilla

Murton got 445 ABs last year and produced an .830 OPS, and found himself in a platoon this year right off the bat

both of the managers we've had the last 2 years prefer veterans and will only play young players when they're really forced to

they're very similar in that regard

see Miller, Wade
Floyd, Cliff
Izturis, Caesar

and all the other vets that sucked up playing time at the beginning of the year UNDER PINEILLA

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 21, 2007 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions

Not quite

Do you really think Lou knew what he had in younger talent? When it was obvious Iz was not going to be the answer, Piniella gave Theriot the shot -- and he took the job. You help me make the point -- Theriot earned a shot under Dusty -- he didn't get it. But Piniella was smart enough to realize who the better player was.

Murton was lost in the small army of RF'ers Hendry collected. Floyd -- a Hendry favorite. he was going to play, if healthy.

You will admit Murton wasn't that effective with minimal playing time, so with the plethora of OF talent -- he goes to Iowa.

Miller -- another Hendry reclamation project. Do you think they were going to spend money on hs re hab and NOT use him? He proved he couldn't do it.
He's gone.

There was such a shuttle from Des Moines -- the likes of which I've never seen. I think the players got the message -- do well at AAA, you now have a shot to come up. That wasn't the case before. We've seen most of thre talent at Iowa -- have a shot at Wrigley Field. Sam Fuld? Wh knew? That's Eric Patterson's loss.

It took spring training and 2 months for Piniella to figure it out -- and in soem cases, he was stuck and had to run certain players out there.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 21, 2007 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions

That's just ridiculous.

Lou has repeatedly given the Cubs' young players chances to succeed, and where they've succeeded, they've seen more playing time, and in more important situations.

Theriot, Marmol, and Marshall all took their jobs from older players. Fontenot worked his way into the lineup, as did Pie for a time.

Lou was the manager of this team for what, a month? before severely curtailing Izturis' playing time.

by ClosingTime on Sep 21, 2007 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions

Lee with a ribbie!

13-7

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 21, 2007 3:54 PM CDT reply actions

Atta Boy, D-LEE!!

Good to see a two out hit with a man on.

by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 3:54 PM CDT reply actions

YAY!!!!

Ouch

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 3:54 PM CDT reply actions

D-LEE!

"They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself." ~Andy Warhol

by BlueW on Sep 21, 2007 3:55 PM CDT reply actions

rammy JUST misses another one!

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 21, 2007 3:55 PM CDT reply actions

drink marty, drink!

You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 3:55 PM CDT reply actions

I had mixed feelings....

On Aram's drive.

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions

darn

come on A-ram you're better than that

I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Sep 21, 2007 3:55 PM CDT reply actions

its not his fault

he wanted another runner on so it would be three three run bombs

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 21, 2007 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions

True

if you can't hit a 3 run bomb, why bother?

I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Sep 21, 2007 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions

Lucky 13!

Can we double up the Pee-rats?!

Cubs fans are 90% scar tissue and 100% insane

by Bridge2Far on Sep 21, 2007 3:56 PM CDT reply actions

16 Hits, NO walks

Dusty would be happy to see the boys not clogging up the base paths today!

by The Ryno and I Know on Sep 21, 2007 3:56 PM CDT reply actions

whos

dusty?

put soriano in the 5-hole please!!!!

by tbizzle83 on Sep 21, 2007 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm praying for you Marty...

by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 3:56 PM CDT reply actions

our last 6 runs have all come

after an error. that's nice to see.

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 3:56 PM CDT reply actions

this

is the type of game i wanted to see them win just before the playoffs. this is great

put soriano in the 5-hole please!!!!

by tbizzle83 on Sep 21, 2007 3:57 PM CDT reply actions

Now THIS is how you...

And make the playoffs!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 3:57 PM CDT reply actions

uugh...

"They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself." ~Andy Warhol

by BlueW on Sep 21, 2007 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions

Oh come on Aram!

What a lousy, overpaid hack.

"Marmol has become a cult favorite among Cubs fans due to the combination of velocity and movement in his pitches and the wicked awesomeness he displays."

by vtcub on Sep 21, 2007 3:58 PM CDT reply actions

I hope you're

being sarcastic.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions

WOWZAS

So I left to go to class after the first, and just got back. I was expecting to see a score of 5-3, maybe 6-3, but certainly not 13-7. Looks like I've been missing a wild one.

------ TheRiot Squad ------

by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 3:59 PM CDT reply actions

Did I just see Kerry...

shake his arm and look worried?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 3:59 PM CDT reply actions

Please tell me...

you're joking. Even then, you got me nervous.

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions

Oh, please no. That would

not be cool.

There are 3 things in my life which I really love: God, family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit.

by cubsfan4life on Sep 21, 2007 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions

Nasty

I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Sep 21, 2007 4:00 PM CDT reply actions

#13

will have to wait.

This is seriously taking every bit of focus I hvae.

Long time since I've drank this much in this amount of timel.

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 4:01 PM CDT reply actions

LOL

Well, make sure you stay focused for #14, 15, 16...

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions

I must ask,

are you alone?

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions

Me?

No, but I'm the only one driking like this.

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions

Nice

To see Kerry stike out 2 and have a good 1-2-3. Also nice to see the Cubbies get 3 runs during my exam.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 4:01 PM CDT reply actions

OK, Kerry, I take it back.

See, my strategy here is to insult any Cubs player that comes into the game, thus ensuring an all-star caliber performance.

I shall now return to my seat.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 4:01 PM CDT reply actions

Ah, yes...

the "don't set yourself up for disappointment" strategy.
as cub fans, i'm sure we've all used it a few times!

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions

wood...

one more inning?? yay, nay , star 69?

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 21, 2007 4:02 PM CDT reply actions

3 outs to go, 6 run lead

I like the Cubs' chances...

by Def Kenny T on Sep 21, 2007 4:02 PM CDT reply actions

Blanco to PH?

Woody handles the bat better, in my opinion.

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 4:04 PM CDT reply actions

#13

is in the books!!!!

I'm getting my 2nd wind!

GO CUBS!!!

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 4:04 PM CDT reply actions

You are not serious right?

You could really do some damage if you are seriously doing this. Please be careful, I wouldn't want anything to happen to a Cubs fan. ;)

There are 3 things in my life which I really love: God, family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit.

by cubsfan4life on Sep 21, 2007 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions

thanks....

for the concern...

I'm OK. I have friends here and I have the day off!!

Stupid I know, but I'm of age and have the day off :)

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions

At least it stopped at 13....

for now!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions

Hank White

has he been working on those arm Tats some? It seems like they are a little more detailed than they used to be.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 4:04 PM CDT reply actions

cubs bullpen again

i'll take this bullpen right now over any others i've seen this year

by dogcatratcheese on Sep 21, 2007 4:04 PM CDT reply actions

I dunno...I would leave Woody in for the 9th....

Why use Dempster in a non-save situation?

"The decline of society is rampant...Cubs winning the WS in '07 will make everything right again."

by Bluelou on Sep 21, 2007 4:05 PM CDT reply actions

Get him in there

to get a bit of work. After getting an IV two days ago Lou might not want his first time pitching to be in a one run situation

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions

Nah, Howry should close. Period.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't know

as has been discussed before, you get Howry closing, then you shake up your set up, which is just as important. I don't have a problem with Dempster closing, he just gets a little nervewracking a little too often.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions

Don't forget

that Howry had his problems early in the year. Dempster and Marmol have probably been the most consistent pitchers all season long. Personally I like it the way it is. Howry is the 8th inning guy, Dempster is the closer and Marmol is whenever Lou really needs an out.

by rlpete on Sep 21, 2007 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions

re: Don't forget

I actually agree. I thought Dempster was still out sick.

Of course, now that Nady just hit that home run, I feel less confident in this belief.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions

I am loving this!!!

this makes a day at work go by SO FREAKING FAST!!!!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 4:05 PM CDT reply actions

Dempster!?!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Sep 21, 2007 4:05 PM CDT reply actions

Nice analysis CT

I agree completely.

------ TheRiot Squad ------

by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 4:06 PM CDT reply actions

Pie + LHP = 2 out

------ TheRiot Squad ------

by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 4:07 PM CDT reply actions

Pie + LHP = 1 out walk

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions

maybe this will...

kick start Pie. that'd make me happier!

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions

We would be nowhere without this bullpen

How many times has it seemed like the game was about to get out of control and then Marmol/Wuertz/Wood/Howry/Hart/Erye/Petrick/insert name here comes in and shuts the ball game down. Dempster is in the top 3 in save percentage and even Ohman contributed to the game today.

They have saved this season especially since Z, Hill, Marquis, and Marshall get wild.

The only time Lilly left a game early was when he was ejected in the 1st inning against the Braves.

by IllinoisCubs on Sep 21, 2007 4:07 PM CDT reply actions

And Soto draws a walk...

...could you do anything more right?

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 4:07 PM CDT reply actions

They're showing the behind the scenes people..

who produce and direct the broadcast. Which one of those morons is the one that decides to miss the first pitch of each inning? Or is that just on WGN?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 4:08 PM CDT reply actions

A lot of stations

miss the first pitch of each inning. Even ESPN and Fox have done it on more than a few occasions.

I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Sep 21, 2007 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions

It has been better as of late...

but for awhile in the beginning of the year, and ALOT last year, it was the norm not the exception.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions

That's on WGN.

Have to get those ads in ya know.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions

Do NOT blame the tech people

Whether the game be on WGN, Comcast, ESPN, and for that matter WGN Radio (I heard a missed first OUT when I was listening in Chicago, as Pat had to say -- "the inning starts with a pop-up on the first pitch, one out, now here's.....")

Blame the suits. Blame the advertising sales departments and station promotion departments of the respective networks. These nets are frantically scheduling as many commercials and network promotional spots between innings as possible....so, if play starts quickly...or the broadcast team gets out of an inning slowly, there will be that possibility the return to the next inning will be screwed up.

The cash register is ringing, and radio/TV sales departments will squeeze in anything -- that's why the "Call To The Bullpen" (or whatever) is sponsored. Ads are squeezed in everywhere and anywhere. And, the station/network wants to cross promote other programming, too.

Do not blame the guys in the TV truck or the radio booth for missing innings. If THEY miss what's been scheduled, there's usually hell to pay.

If this irritates you (as it does me) I suggest you E-mail the station/network in question.

(This is not just a WGN/Comcast 'thing,' let me assure you -- it happens everywhere. Here in SD, the announcers are reading commercials between pitches. The replays are sponsored....pitch counts are sponsored.....the amount of commercial copy that makes its' way into Padres radio & TV broadcasts is astounding....)

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 21, 2007 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions

I hear you SDSJM....

I guess I really knew that anyway. Besides, MudGrant makes me wish there were MORE commercials and less baseball for him to wax poetic about. I was at the Padres/Bucs game on Tues, left after the stretch with the other 80% of Padres "fans". LOL.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions

martyblue,

I went to a game with my girlfriend's brother, and while he is a big cubs fan, we were get decimated by the cards, so he decided to try to have a beer for every out the cubs made. It last just over 5 innings.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 4:08 PM CDT reply actions

That's crazy!

he beats me

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions

Pie

walks twice in a game??? Unheard of!

by JakeH on Sep 21, 2007 4:09 PM CDT reply actions

Bummer about Theriot's GIDP...

...but he may have done all of us (and Marty's liver) a favor.

Let's end this insane game and fly the frickin' flag.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 4:10 PM CDT reply actions

I think there's a good chance

I think there's a good chance Kendall will be around next year. Soto will probably be the starter, but catcher is the position where the correlation between fatigue and diminishing offensive production is highest. Kendall won't need a lot of cash to get signed, and if we could keep him, he'd be great to catch every few games, tutor Soto, and pinch hit in contact spots (i.e. runner on third, less than 2 out)

------ TheRiot Squad ------

by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 4:11 PM CDT reply actions

the problem there is

that blanco is already signed for next year. i agree that soto and kendall look like the best options so far though....

by anormal on Sep 21, 2007 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions

Blanco's salary is a sunk cost.

The man has eight hits this year.

We're paying him $3M to sit on the bench right now - may as well pay him $3M to sit at home and eat Funyuns next year. Or better yet, make him an instructor.

He's as likely to retire as he is to return to the Cubs - especially if Kendall can be retained on the cheap to be a part-time player.

by ClosingTime on Sep 21, 2007 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions

I see a 60-day DL in Henry' future

If he doesn't retire, I don't see that they can trade him during the off-season. I think the likely scenario is that he will end up on the DL with a "recurrence" of his issues. It'll be the 15-day to start, to see if Soto is just a flash in the pan.

If Soto or Kendall are scuffling, then Henry will magically recover. Otherwise, he'll move to the 60-day. In late June he'll be sent on a rehab start to Iowa, where he can show he still has defensive skills. Then either he or Kendall will be traded to an AL contender in late July.

by Invalid User on Sep 21, 2007 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah,

I think as a tandem they would be a good team. However I don't want Kendall as our everyday. Soto is looking good to have that position, but he definitely needs a vet around to show him the ins and outs.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 21, 2007 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions

I like Dempster...

and I'll like him even more after we win this game!

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 4:11 PM CDT reply actions

How many hits for the Pirates

since the bullpen took over?

by JakeH on Sep 21, 2007 4:13 PM CDT reply actions

I believe only one!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions

Gameday

shows 2.

And so it goes.

by Luigi on Sep 21, 2007 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions

That is

Impressive!

by JakeH on Sep 21, 2007 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions

3 Now

And so it goes.

by Luigi on Sep 21, 2007 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions

2

I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Sep 21, 2007 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions

Although

1 of them was the bunt pop up over OhMan!'s head so really only 1

I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Sep 21, 2007 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions

Not many...if ANY...

"The decline of society is rampant...Cubs winning the WS in '07 will make everything right again."

by Bluelou on Sep 21, 2007 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions

And just as I wrote that...they get a HR....

I'll shut up now... :-)

"The decline of society is rampant...Cubs winning the WS in '07 will make everything right again."

by Bluelou on Sep 21, 2007 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions

lol

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions

I believe the answer is...

...1, with a few walks mixed in there.

by Chadnudj on Sep 21, 2007 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions

1 down

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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 4:13 PM CDT reply actions

ONE!

C'mon, Demps...

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 4:13 PM CDT reply actions

Good Start Demp!

by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 4:13 PM CDT reply actions

LaRoche = LaLoser

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 4:14 PM CDT reply actions

NOT THAT KIND OF ONE!

sigh...

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 4:14 PM CDT reply actions

see....

you need to explain it to him... he's not going to know what you mean otherwise!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions

Hey Chicago, What do you say?

n/t

Bulls 402 ta zip... but Micheal Jordan will be held to under 200 points. - Todd O'Connor

by Lou In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 4:14 PM CDT reply actions

Interview went ok

I see the game went even better !!! I'm gonna schedule more interviews the rest of the season

by Basman on Sep 21, 2007 4:14 PM CDT reply actions

Nady HR, 13-8

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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 4:14 PM CDT reply actions

SH@T!!!!

by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 4:15 PM CDT reply actions

Dempster up to his old tricks again

n/t

by zevkalman on Sep 21, 2007 4:15 PM CDT reply actions

crap

come on Dempster.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 4:15 PM CDT reply actions

It's ok

We can trade runs for outs and still win by 3

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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 4:15 PM CDT reply actions

crap well its 13-8

lets just say..if dempster did blow this...then he may have to get the hell out of chicaga..

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 21, 2007 4:15 PM CDT reply actions

Hopefully someone reminds Dempster that

this is the Pirates...NOT the Mets!

by JakeH on Sep 21, 2007 4:15 PM CDT reply actions

Ugh

Cardinals game anyone?

I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Sep 21, 2007 4:16 PM CDT reply actions

Solo shots...

Solo shots don't bother me when Aram is hitting 3 run jacks.

by Def Kenny T on Sep 21, 2007 4:16 PM CDT reply actions

Maybe Dempster...

should puke on the ball. does that work as well as spit?

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 4:16 PM CDT reply actions

Dumpster you PIG!!!

ok, i got that out of my system, back to drinking my beer...

You ARE freaking out MAN!

by crw89 on Sep 21, 2007 4:16 PM CDT reply actions

C'mon Demp...

...shake off the Nyquil and throw strikes!!!

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 4:17 PM CDT reply actions

Here's a cool old thread I dug up...

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/comments/2007/7/18/51958/5088/32#32

Man, I gotta say some of you people took real offense to the idea of giving Soto some big league playing time based on his torrid, yet supposedly hollow, AAA campaign.

by Jerry Mumphrey on Sep 21, 2007 4:17 PM CDT reply actions

ya gotta love cubsak

talking bout how AAA stats 'translate' into big league stats. Classic Cubsak!!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions

If I have to drink anymore....

then you know it's bad.

Go Hart!!!!!

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 4:17 PM CDT reply actions

I mean Demp....

Geez, I must be drinking

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions

You're so cool and intriguing

You can drink beer and comment on a blog at the same time, wow!

"We are going to light up the SB Nation server farm like a Christmas tree." - cwyers

by NittanyCub on Sep 21, 2007 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions

Is Anyone Warming Up in the Pen?

And so it goes.

by Luigi on Sep 21, 2007 4:17 PM CDT reply actions

Dempster lacks

a strike out pitch...

Bulls 402 ta zip... but Micheal Jordan will be held to under 200 points. - Todd O'Connor

by Lou In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 4:18 PM CDT reply actions

Is Demp trying to get to a save situation?

Cut the crap Ryan.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 4:18 PM CDT reply actions

Damn u Bautista

by Basman on Sep 21, 2007 4:18 PM CDT reply actions

single

not time to get worried yet....but soon at this rate

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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 4:19 PM CDT reply actions

TWO...

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 4:19 PM CDT reply actions

OUTS!

(for Demps' sake!)

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions

Felix the cat

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 4:19 PM CDT reply actions

There's gotta be

SOMEONE who can pitch other than Dempster

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 4:19 PM CDT reply actions

Relax

It's one run.

by rlpete on Sep 21, 2007 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions

OK 1 more

by Basman on Sep 21, 2007 4:19 PM CDT reply actions

see?

2 out. I think we're gonna be ok, you harbingers of doom.

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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 4:19 PM CDT reply actions

Put it in the books, folks....

CUBS WIN - and 2 games in front!!!
(for the moment)

Whoever has flag duty....now would be good.

"The decline of society is rampant...Cubs winning the WS in '07 will make everything right again."

by Bluelou on Sep 21, 2007 4:19 PM CDT reply actions

THREE

TWO GAMES UP!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 4:20 PM CDT reply actions

CUBS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 4:20 PM CDT reply actions

Cubs win!!!

2.0 !!!!

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 21, 2007 4:20 PM CDT reply actions

FLY IT

2 Game lead, 8 to play! See you in october?

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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 21, 2007 4:20 PM CDT reply actions

Sing it...

....Mr. Goodman.

by Chadnudj on Sep 21, 2007 4:20 PM CDT reply actions

CUBS WIN!! CUBS WIN!!! CUBS WIN!!!

FLY IT!!!

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 4:20 PM CDT reply actions

Fly It!

And so it goes.

by Luigi on Sep 21, 2007 4:20 PM CDT reply actions

cubs win!

fly it :)

by cubs ftw on Sep 21, 2007 4:20 PM CDT reply actions

Ryan Dempster...

shitting the bed since 1998. I'm glad he didn't this time!!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 4:21 PM CDT reply actions

I don't understand the grief

he gets. He's had a good year. He is a little nerve-wracking at times but the numbers are good.

by rlpete on Sep 21, 2007 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions

re: I don't understand the grief

He gets a lot of grief because it's really easy to turn the word "Dempster" into "Dumpster".

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't get it either.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions

These are the people

who watch a game every now and then, see Dempster blow a save, and then believe it happens every game, and this only happens to the Cubs. Call it tunnel vision, I guess.

His numbers are not terrible. He's a serviceable closer, but he's not as sexy as Trevor Hoffman, Mariano Rivera, and others of that ilk. (Guess they didn't see the Mets relief corps blow the game twice last night in Florida)

The see Dempster give a a run in a non save situation and go berserk. He's challenging the batters to get themselves out -- rather than sneak his off-speed pitch past them. I've said this time and time again, but the more fragile of us here don't care/don't pay attention/don't understand.

Let 'em rant.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 21, 2007 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions

That's nonsense.

Look at Dempster's performance this month. Pure crap.

by FortLauderdaleCubs on Sep 21, 2007 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions

OH YEAH!!

HEY CHICAGO!!! WHAT DO YOU SAY??? GO CUBS GO!! CUBS WIN!! CUBS WIN!!!

2 1/2 games up by the end of the night.... just you watch! :) WOO HOO!!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 4:21 PM CDT reply actions

Magic Number...

...is now 8. Let's see that go down to 7 tonight. Go Braves!

by Chadnudj on Sep 21, 2007 4:21 PM CDT reply actions

I hope everyone is feeling the same

irrational exuberance that I am experiencing at this moment!

by JFCubFan on Sep 21, 2007 4:21 PM CDT reply actions

well....

I'm feeling something a little different..

but it's all good

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO CUBS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!`

I need to eat something.

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 4:21 PM CDT reply actions

Fly it high! Fly it Proud!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 4:21 PM CDT reply actions

If the Brew Crew lose tonight...

I don't think they'll have enough gas in the tank to overcome the Cubs. Wouldn't 2 1/2 games be their biggest deficit since the Cubs took over first??

Nice offensive production from the Cubbies today - let's do it again tomorrow, eh?

by Def Kenny T on Sep 21, 2007 4:22 PM CDT reply actions

Finally a winning season!!!

haven't had once since 04!!!!

GO CUBS GO!!!
GO CUBS GO!
HEY CHICAGO WHAT'D YOU SAY??!?!

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 21, 2007 4:22 PM CDT reply actions

CUBBIES ... way to go

Brewers have to feel the heat now.

by Basman on Sep 21, 2007 4:22 PM CDT reply actions

Player of the game?

which one?

Soriano
DLee
Ramirez
Soto
Hart

by Gucci on Sep 21, 2007 4:22 PM CDT reply actions

Gotta Be

ARam!

And so it goes.

by Luigi on Sep 21, 2007 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions

I say

Ramy and Hart.

ramy started the Offense and far all purposes ended the game with Bomb # 2.

Hart stopped the bleeding in the middle innings and deserved the W, but Im happy for Scottie!!!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions

Easy choice

IZTURIS!

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions

I have so wasted

the entire afternoon at work. I'll gladly work tomorrow to make up for it!

Come on Tim Hudson!! Pitch your pants off tonight....literally. Please?

Cardinals?? Stick a fork in em - they are DONE.

by iluvryno on Sep 21, 2007 4:22 PM CDT reply actions

awesome

anyone catch the guy sticking his tounge down that girl's throat

I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Sep 21, 2007 4:22 PM CDT reply actions

yowsa

dude was going after it.

by montanacubby on Sep 21, 2007 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions

Was the girl hot?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions

Judging by the beer in the guy's hand

I'm sure she was at the time

I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Sep 21, 2007 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions

SORRY JOSH-IN-LA

this stuff cracks me the F up!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah, they

should of gotten a room.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions

Man that flag is beautiful

How sweet this is!!!!!

by montanacubby on Sep 21, 2007 4:22 PM CDT reply actions

LOL, Eyre gets the win...

...lucky bastid.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 4:23 PM CDT reply actions

MARTY!!! Please take shots for every run the

Cubs Score for the rest of the season, how ever long is is (hopefully well into Oct).

Go Braves Go, Hey Atlanta whatdo you say!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 4:23 PM CDT reply actions

the braves are gonna win tonight!

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 21, 2007 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions

what's a little liver damage

in the face of WIKTORY!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions

TO WIKTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Bye bye liver!

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions

WHEEEEE

I'll drink to that....going for 2-4-1 happy hour drinks now! WOOT WOOT!!!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions

Ditto

work is done for this week!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions

My

work day ended at 1:20 this afternoon. Mind you, I'm still here, but.... worth it. Did somebody say Wiktory!!! i could use a beer.

by montanacubby on Sep 21, 2007 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions

Magic Number

8

You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 4:25 PM CDT reply actions

GO CUBS GO!!

Great win!

Marty, best of luck to you the rest of the evening!

by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 4:25 PM CDT reply actions

Go Braves, Go Braves

Pound the Brewers. I mean POUND the Brewers! That game is on ESPN tonight by the way...

by Def Kenny T on Sep 21, 2007 4:28 PM CDT reply actions

Another win tomorrow...

or a St Louis loss tonight officially eliminates the Cards. Not that they're at all relevant now, but it's still fun to have them officially in the rear view mirror.

Let's go Braves! Make it a 2.5 game lead over the Brewers.

by SouthernCub on Sep 21, 2007 4:28 PM CDT reply actions

officially in the rear view mirror

You mean GONE from the rear view, don't ya?

:-)

"The decline of society is rampant...Cubs winning the WS in '07 will make everything right again."

by Bluelou on Sep 21, 2007 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions

I meant "for good"

but gone from the rear view mirror works better than "officially" too.

Now if only the same can soon be said of the Brewers.

by SouthernCub on Sep 22, 2007 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions

We should start

a diary to discuss the game in before this thread starts to condense down. It's hard to read all the new posts when it does that.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 4:31 PM CDT reply actions

Lou sounds

a little shellshocked... :P

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 4:32 PM CDT reply actions

He's fine..His blood sugar is just a little low...

:-)

"The decline of society is rampant...Cubs winning the WS in '07 will make everything right again."

by Bluelou on Sep 21, 2007 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions

lets hope the braves keep playing good ball tonigh

it would be to get some more distance between us and the brew crew before our road trip.

AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Sep 21, 2007 4:33 PM CDT reply actions

This has been one of the best game threads...

...of the season. Hilarious and insane.

Hello, Soto!

by daver on Sep 21, 2007 4:35 PM CDT reply actions

And 1003+ posts long.

"Marmol has become a cult favorite among Cubs fans due to the combination of velocity and movement in his pitches and the wicked awesomeness he displays."

by vtcub on Sep 21, 2007 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions

AMEN!!!!!!!!

Confucius say: Baseball wrong - man with four balls cannot walk. - Author Unknown

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 21, 2007 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions

Tim Hudson

I will be praying for you tonight! Curse on you Villanueva!

Aramis and the bullpen came through big today. Great win, and a nice start to the weekend.

GO CUBS!!!!

"We're going to turn this team around 360 degrees." -Jason Kidd

by tony412 on Sep 21, 2007 4:37 PM CDT reply actions

Why does Lou.....

remind me so much of Clutch Cargo ?

by coral on Sep 21, 2007 4:38 PM CDT reply actions

Pinch me!

Two game lead on Sept. 21st. If you had told me this in May, I would have slapped you.

Cubs fans are 90% scar tissue and 100% insane

by Bridge2Far on Sep 21, 2007 4:40 PM CDT reply actions

Hey!!

That's just what Barrett must have said to Z in the dugout!!!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions

Prediction

You know, suddenly Big Z's spring prediction of the post season doesn't look so insane anymore does it?

by snowyman28 on Sep 22, 2007 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions

Outstanding win

today. Nice to see us finally win a slugfest, nicer yet to have the power surge at exactly the right time. Does anyone know if we ever got the player to be named for Izturis? I don't remember ever hearing a name but I'm both deaf and dumb. Catch y'all on the flipside after tomorrow's win.

by snowyman28 on Sep 21, 2007 4:44 PM CDT reply actions

Your a ML Umpire?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions

No

but I play one on TV.

by snowyman28 on Sep 21, 2007 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions

Looks like

the fans want Soto to be the everyday catcher.

http://chicago.comcastsportsnet.com/team-cubs.asp?

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 4:45 PM CDT reply actions

Hey Sue

Who did you vote for and I'm still patiently awaiting your apology for insulting me when I said Soto should be the every day starter a week ago.

by lemon20pie on Sep 21, 2007 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions

*Everyday Catcher

by lemon20pie on Sep 21, 2007 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions

Well,

if I told you then I would have to kill you. ;)

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions

Trick question

I've got a feeling you're going to kill me anyway.

by lemon20pie on Sep 21, 2007 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions

Naw, I

wouldn't do that.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions

Remember all the Barrett love a couple months back

Hey Cub fans, now that you've seen what a real Catcher looks like in Kendall and Soto, whatcha think?

by lemon20pie on Sep 21, 2007 4:58 PM CDT reply actions

I'm not sure....

It's really hard to think...

by martyblue on Sep 21, 2007 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions

Barrett who?

http://www.prosoundweb.com/fun/Photofun/76-head_up_ass.jpg

Cubs fans are 90% scar tissue and 100% insane

by Bridge2Far on Sep 21, 2007 5:11 PM CDT reply actions

I had a meeting

Glad to see the Cubs pulled it out.

Also glad to see Marty survived all those shots for runs scored.

by vegascubsfan on Sep 21, 2007 5:12 PM CDT reply actions

Hart's eligibility

I asked this question further up, but Hart isn't eligible for the playoff roster is he?

by lemon20pie on Sep 21, 2007 5:24 PM CDT reply actions

Hart

Is eligible for the playoff roster if he replaces a player who was eligible but is on the disabled list. For example, pitcher has a sore hamstring and goes on the 15 day-DL, Hart can take his roster spot. Tricky things those hamstrings (wink wink)

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)

by cubfred on Sep 21, 2007 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions