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Open Thread: Cubs vs. Pirates, Friday 9/21, 1:20 CT

Yelloncard_tiny by Al on in Game Threads

The Cubs, as you know, picked up a half game in the standings last night while resting at home when the Braves beat the Brewers 3-1. Now, Milwaukee must face Tim Hudson and John Smoltz today and tomorrow, while the Cubs are playing a team that they should be beating, but haven't so far this year (5-7 vs. Pittsburgh).

The time for talk is over. Just win.

 Today's Starting Pitchers
Jason Marquis
 J. Marquis
Cubs		 vs. Paul Maholm
 P. Maholm
Pirates
12-8 W-L 10-15
4.07 ERA 4.76
102 SO 102
71 BB 49
22 HR 20
vs. Pit -- vs. Cubs
Jason Marquis threw his best game of the year against the Pirates on May 9 at Wrigley Field -- a three-hit shutout. He's 8-3, 4.01 in 16 starts at home this season, and the Cubs are 8-2 in his starts (not his record, the club record in games he's started, including one road game I attended) since I acquired my Marquis jersey, which I'll be wearing again today.

None of the Pirates hits him particularly well except for Jason Bay, who is .382/.450/.912 (13-for-34, 4 doubles, a triple, 4 HR).

Paul Maholm got pounded by the Astros in his last start on September 16, allowing ten earned runs in 2.2 innings. Maybe we could have the Cubs dress up in Astros uniforms; they have never beaten Maholm. He's 4-0 lifetime vs. the Cubs, although with a 4.94 ERA. Aramis Ramirez (4-for-11, a HR) and Alfonso Soriano (3-for-8, a HR) are the only Cubs who have had any decent success against Maholm.

It's going to be summerlike today:

Today: Mostly sunny, with a high near 89. South southwest wind between 10 and 15 mph.
Finally, have a little fun with Lou!

Today's game is cable-only in the Pittsburgh and Chicago areas; it's also on the EI list, and at today's Mediacenter link.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2006 version)

MLB.com Gameday for the Brewers/Braves game (6:05 CT start, TV on ESPN - I'll put this link in today's recap later this afternoon as well)

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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GO CUBS !!!!!!!
A day of rest should have done wonders.

by coral on Sep 21, 2007 9:19 AM CDT   0 recs

oh boy...
...i am leaving work early today so that i can watch the game on EI. it is my understanding that a tape of harry's final rendition of tmottbg will be played.

i anticipate i'll have goosebumps!

"If you'da been thinkin you wouldn't 'a thought that." ~~ "Squints" Palledorous

by rm463 on Sep 21, 2007 9:21 AM CDT   0 recs

GO CUBS GO!!!!
Can't wait until game time!
Walking by the ballpark on my way to work this morning there was already a large line waiting to get tickets. Very much a playoff atmosphere and this is at 7 in the morning!
Hopefully the Cubbies play well tonight and Marquis has good command as well.

by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 9:37 AM CDT   0 recs

GO CUBS GO!!! Part II
Well... I'm on my way to Arizona for business for the next 7 days. I hope the Cubs are sitting nicely atop the division when I return!

Will chime in from the road, when I have the chance.

1-RUN GAMES = 23-22 | EXTRA INNINGS = 2-8 | HOME = 41-37 | updated on 9/20

by SackMan on Sep 21, 2007 9:54 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

SackMan
Have a good trip.
I too hope the Cubs are sitting nicely atop the division!
Wouldn't that be a nice gift to return too!?

by Tangled Up In Blue on Sep 21, 2007 11:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Zona representin
 Hey Sack I'm in Phoenix, if you're in the area at all and want to hook up to watch a Cubbie game and a cold 1 let me know. Who knows, maybe a little of my vast knowledge of baseball will even rub off on ya.

 Either way, enjoy AZ you're coming out at the right time, only supposed to be upper 90's for a week.

by lemon20pie on Sep 21, 2007 4:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Good times
I hope we all have a good time no matter what. This is what being a cubs fan is all about. A hell of a lot better then the last 3 years.

I have the feel the Cubs have the momentum and good things will happen this weekend.

6-01-2007 the Cubs begin to rise. They will never look back.

by Scott G F on Sep 21, 2007 9:41 AM CDT   0 recs

The Braves
rookie pitcher did a favor for us last night. This weekend is a key to the season. We take care of business and the good Braves pitchers take care of their business and we'll be in good shape!
This is Harry Carray, goodbye from Wrigley Field and So Long Everybody.

by mrcubsfan on Sep 21, 2007 9:47 AM CDT   0 recs

Actually Bennett first appeared as a Brewer
I think 2004 and then had major surgery and now has finally returned to the bigs sticking it to his old organization that cut him lose.

Well touche is baseball mantra.....

Cubs 2-12 one run games 04-05/07 21-10 since.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 10:05 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Crappy pitchers
I was curious about how many bad pitchers the Brewers have been facing lately, so I looked it up. It's pretty bad (follow the link if you want your eyes to bleed). Luckily, the Cubs somehow gained 2 games over that stretch. Good job, crappy rookie pitchers!!!
It's nice to see random no-name pitchers help the Cubs after kicking the snot out of us the last 2-3 years. ;)
rain delay theatre

by rob9802 on Sep 21, 2007 1:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I just Piniella-ed
every Cubs, Cards, and Sox fan I know. I don't even know of any Brewer fans this far south of Chicago. Some will appreciate it, other will not, bet you can guess who will not :-)
fly your W flag Cubs fans!

by love the ivy on Sep 21, 2007 9:51 AM CDT   0 recs

This is it!
By tonight, we'll have a 2 1/2 game lead!

[b]Go Cubs Go![/b]

Feel the Brees.

by SouthernBrees on Sep 21, 2007 9:51 AM CDT   0 recs

I'm not sure of its legality
(so I may or may not have used it), but SopCast streams MLB games for every game played. It can do the same for football and basketball(when it comes back) too.
"We are going to light up the SB Nation server farm like a Christmas tree." - cwyers

by NittanyCub on Sep 21, 2007 10:01 AM CDT   0 recs

LOL
LOVE the potential disclaimer there!! :)
Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 21, 2007 10:06 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

re: I'm not sure of its legality
Legality aside, I'm wondering whether any spyware/adware comes along with the software you must download to view the games.

Assuming you've used SopCast, have you had any problems?

"It's big because it knocks them out of semi-contention." Jason Marquis referring to the St. Louis Cardinals on 9/16/07

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 10:11 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Malware
I haven't noticed any.  I downloaded and installed it, but I only used it once.  I had a bad feeling about it (not the legality, although there was that, but more because I thought I might be compromising my computer).  I'm a developer, so I notice performance issues pretty quickly.  I also check running processes on my machine regularly and have not seen anything out of the ordinary.
Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 21, 2007 10:28 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

re: Malware
Thanks for the feedback! I must say I'm rather tempted here...
"It's big because it knocks them out of semi-contention." Jason Marquis referring to the St. Louis Cardinals on 9/16/07

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 10:35 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nothing's been wrong at my end.
However, you probably know a ton more about computers than I do and spot problems faster. But I've been using it for about a year and a half, and it works great. It does have ~5 minute delay between real time and stream, though

Granted, I have Norton and ad-aware, and run spybot checks every other week just to make sure.

Here's the schedule for all the games, and their respective channels that you can use if you have it. If it's not legal, then I wouldn't know anything about it though. My friend told me about it, whom I can't really remember

"We are going to light up the SB Nation server farm like a Christmas tree." - cwyers

by NittanyCub on Sep 21, 2007 10:38 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

SopCast
I've also installed it and have not noticed any glaring problems from spyware, though it's difficult to tell where junk comes from nowadays.  I've only used it once for the Cubs (to watch the end of a game) as I primarily use it for the Bears since I don't live in Chicago and I can't afford NFL Gameday ticket.

It is a grey area:  if a normal person has to pay to receive the service, then getting it "free" on SopCast is like stealing.  I don't mind using Gameday for baseball games, but football has more action and players involved on each play.

I hope the NFL can shake off its alliance with DirecTV and make games available over the net.  It's going to be awhile before that happens.  MLB was never captive to a single satellite provider.

Pie, Fontenot, Theriot and Soto up the middle ... yippie oh, oh, oh!

by SpudV on Sep 21, 2007 10:47 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

re: SopCast
Yeah, like so many questionable things online, it is a grey area.

I mean, I pay to receive Comcast cable, in part to be able watch many/most Cubs games. But I can't access my cable box here at work, so am I really stealing to watch the games via SopCast? Technically, I've paid to watch the game on TV and, presumably, MLB will receive some of that revenue from Comcast. So they're not losing revenue if I watch the game on SopCast.

I'm probably committing some glaring ethical mistake here, though...

Hello, Soto!

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 10:58 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

In the wise words of Chris Rock(where did HE go?)
"Sometimes, I just like to steal."
"We are going to light up the SB Nation server farm like a Christmas tree." - cwyers

by NittanyCub on Sep 21, 2007 11:05 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes! The great urban philosopher.......
....Mr. Rock also said "I'm not saying it's right-I'm just saying I understand." Which works for the Sopcast situation and many of the gray areas in morality, ethics and law. A genius.
"Baseball is like church- many attend, few understand." ~ Leo Durocher

by The Lip on Sep 21, 2007 11:43 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Interesting point....
You did pay Comcast to watch the game so you should be able to watch the game.  From an ethical standpoint, you are right.  From a legal standpoint, Sopcast hasn't purchased the rights to broadcast the game.  In essance, you are not stealing from Comcast, Sopcast is stealing from Comcast.  

How's that for some sophistry?

Linus: Life is rarely all one way, Charlie Brown. You win some, you lose some. Charlie Brown: Really? Gee, that'd be neat.

by CyberCyclist on Sep 21, 2007 11:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

re: Interesting point....
Well, that makes me feel better. Let Comcast worry about it! :-)

Which inspires me to ask: Why doesn't Comcast offer its subscribers Internet access to certain channels/programs? (Uh, namely, baseball games!) I'm guessing a lot of us would take advantage of this service. And I'd even consider paying a reasonable extra amount on my cable bill to be able to access Cubs game via the Web.

Of course, they'd probably want to charge an arm and leg for such a service...

Hello, Soto!

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 11:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

CyberCyclist is right......
..Sopcast is the one doing the stealing. This is exactly why I can do my shopping at pawn shops and out of the back of the trucks operated by various "wandering merchants" without guilt.
"Baseball is like church- many attend, few understand." ~ Leo Durocher

by The Lip on Sep 21, 2007 11:50 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sopcast
I've used it a million times to watch english football (come on you Arsenal!), but never for MLB. This afternoon, I think I'll try Sopcast to watch the game. It's gotta be better than Gamecast, though Gamecast is faster than the mlb internet radio feed.

by SouthsideCub on Sep 21, 2007 12:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's not DirecTV
that's keeping Sunday Ticket off of cable (although I'm sure they're ecstatic about it) but rather Fox and CBS.  It's the same issue that we have with blackouts of Saturday afternoon Fox baseball games of the week--the two networks want you to be watching their local broadcasts on their local channels with their local advertisers.

The networks didn't say anything when Sunday Ticket started on BUD systems and when it migrated to DirecTV because both were really small at the time and it wasn't worth arguing over.  But now that DirecTV has become big, it's a major headache for them.  DirecTV gets grandfathered in, but all the networks have said that the rights payments that they're willing to shell out for the NFL would go down substantially if Sunday Ticket were available on cable systems.  (It's another reason why ST is so freakin' expensive.  They're trying to keep the number of subscribers down.)

So far from the NFL wanting to "shake off" it's partnership with DirecTV, it's the NFL that's keeping it going.  The NFL isn't "captive" to DirecTV, it's trying to please the broadcast networks.

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh77 on Sep 21, 2007 12:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Usually not
Are you getting a good internet signal?

I posted a link up for the channels. If one of them doesn't work, you might wanna try using the other

"We are going to light up the SB Nation server farm like a Christmas tree." - cwyers

by NittanyCub on Sep 21, 2007 1:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

If we win series...
...things ought to begin to resolve.  Right now, with Atlanta doing us a huge favor by beating Milwaukee last night (and the irony of a former Milwaukee team beating the current one is not lost on me!) we are a very important game up in the loss column.  

Can the Brewers win two more games over the ever-diminishing remainder of the season than the Cubs?  That is now the question.  And their climb gets steeper every time out.

For the first time in this anxiety-wracked season, I'm beginning to truly believe.  Time is now on our side.

by MN exile on Sep 21, 2007 10:02 AM CDT   0 recs

Baseball is always about the odds and anomolies
Cubs odds of taking 2 of 3 over the next three series against teams in last place or near the bottom (Cincinnati) over the course of the season is significant....Winning 6 of 9 and finishing 86-76 is a reasonable projection especially taken that over those 9 starts, 8 of them will be our front line pitchers where 2 of them have a .600 record where the club has won the games they have started. Those two pitchers will appear 4 times, thus one can state that the Cubs should expect a minimum of 3 wins from those 4 starts. Thus you are inquiring whether the Cubs can win 3 of 5 from the other three pitchers who have a .500 record. Based on the fact that the Cubs are playing sub.500 teams the odds are 70% plus that they should win 6 of 9.

Now the Brewers have a harder road to sow...they have to win 9 of ten to win outright and 8 of 10 to tie. They have to face two pitchers who have a combined .666 and .582 club winning percentage and they are facing those two on the road where the Brewers are sub .400. They then come home to face the Cardinals and then Padres, who will be putting forward Young & Maddux along with Tomko and Cassel. Brewers have the best home record,

But the odds of going 8 of 10 is now reduced to 25%, with each loss those odds reduce and the Cubs odds increase.

Now all that can be wiped away by the human factor on the field and why they play the games.

Cubs 2-12 one run games 04-05/07 21-10 since.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 10:19 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

re: Baseball is always about the odds...
"Now all that can be wiped away by the human factor on the field and why they play the games."

Amen to that. Chicago Cubs: JUST PLAY HARD!!!

"It's big because it knocks them out of semi-contention." Jason Marquis referring to the St. Louis Cardinals on 9/16/07

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 10:22 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Baseball & odds
Exactly.  Milwaukee's window is slowly and inexorably closing.  If we play good ball at all they're going to need to run the table just to have a chance.

Like I said, I'm beginning to let myself believe.  And looking forward to some October baseball I can actually care about - other than the usual hoping that the Yankees get beat, that is.

by MN exile on Sep 21, 2007 12:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You do know
it's only you, I, Al, and a handful of others who can note the irony. They are all so young here...it's like when our forefathers referred to the damn Gashouse Gang. Seemed like 100 years ago to us, then.

(The Braves were in Milwaukee???)

And if you told them the Braves were in Boston they'd probably think you were nuts.

Of course, this is all in good fun....

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 21, 2007 1:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Old folks' home...
Probably not a good idea to mention the Brooklyn Dodgers, K.C. (pre-Oakland) A's, Seattle Pilots (who later became the Brewers), NY (now SF) Giants, Washington Senators (who became the Twins), or any of the other baseball history.

And the old Negro Leagues - Ernie Banks playing for the K.C. Monarchs, for example...

Granted, much of that was before my time, still, it's one of the reasons I really do love baseball - it has an amazingly rich history.  

Gray hair has some effects, I guess.  At least I still have hair to get gray!

And the amount I learned from my maternal grandfather (and my mother!) about baseball - they took me to my first game in Wrigley,, I think I was 6 at the time.  Or how my two nieces, both now  Chicagoans, are both huge Cub fans.

Or the story I shot a few years back about Bob Casey, the late Metrodome PA announcer - his son was running the low home cam right next to him during the game.

Baseball nostalgia and family connections - maybe subjects for an off-day diary all their own.

by MN exile on Sep 21, 2007 2:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Things are beginning to look up
With the loss of the Brew Crew last night, we are back to the usual 1.5 game lead. Atlanta has been hot winning the last 4 and with smoltz and hudson on the mount the next 2 days, this could spell disaster for the brewers. If the cubbies, can pull 2 out of 3 this weekend, We should be sitting up 3 games by the time Tuesday rolls around. The Padres will playing for the division or the wildcard next weekend vs the Crew, the cards are starting to line up in our favor. All we got to do is win and do a little scoreboard watching.

Believe!!!

by mossey12 on Sep 21, 2007 10:17 AM CDT   0 recs

Hopefully the Rockies will
sweep their series against the Padres which starts tonight.  That way San Diego will be assured to be fighting for their playoff lives when they face the Brewers.

by Neifi Puppy on Sep 21, 2007 10:20 AM CDT   0 recs

Interesting Factoid about the Rockies
They have a better record than the Cubs (81-72 vs 80-73) and are in third place in the NL West.

They can certainly kick a little Padre butt tonight if they want.

by JFCubFan on Sep 21, 2007 11:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

On top of that...
...is the fact that Padre losses keep the Braves in the Wild Card chase for the time-being.

by michaelb on Sep 21, 2007 11:53 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sweet
Will the Brewers know what hit them when it's over I wonder?

Go Braves!
Go Rockies!

G O   C U B S ! ! !

by JFCubFan on Sep 21, 2007 12:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm very excited
for the game today. Hope the day off has them energized and ready to win. Hope Derrek enjoyed his filming of ER yesterday.

GO CUBS!!!

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 21, 2007 10:22 AM CDT   0 recs

hopefully
they can get off to a good start in the series today. It would be a big confidence booster for the guys if they can knock around these Pittsburgh LHP a little bit.
AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike on Sep 21, 2007 10:27 AM CDT   0 recs

First game of the series most important
Cubs are 17-4 (3 ties) when they win the first game of a series and have won only 5 series when they lost the first game, (their 5th being Houston last week).

Winning this game gives them a 70% of winning the series...it basically then is the difference in the odds of the Cubs losing the next two. Winning this game will put added pressure on the Brewers tonight, where a loss would put them down 2 in the loss column (provided Cubs win) and 3 in the win column.

Cubs 2-12 one run games 04-05/07 21-10 since.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 10:35 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Just to let you all know; Cubs vs. LHP'ers this yr
Much as been made of the Cubs current record against left handed starters now at 16-22, that said the record at the end of August was 12-20, so they have picked up 2 games on the ratio, going 4-2 to date in September).

---Back at the end of May the Cubs were 5-9....meaning they have won 11 games and lost 13 from the time their season has turned around.
----Meaning if they had won one more game against a left handed starter it would be .500. Cubs will face three lefties this weekend one a bona fide top of the rotation pitcher in Gorz....I think the Cubs will take the Pirates lefties win the series 2 of 3 moving their lefty record to 18-23...or 13-14 since late May.
-----They then are scheduled to face Willis and Olsen where I suspect they will split with them and finish the regular season 19-24 and since June--14-15...I don't consider it a problem.

Now cutting deeper the problem could be that Murton has started to contribute a little more and getting a right handed CF'er might also be a help.

 

Cubs 2-12 one run games 04-05/07 21-10 since.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 10:28 AM CDT   0 recs

Stupid Article
By Trib's Van "Dick" about the worst ten losses by the Cubs this year.  What a hoser.  Article is totally pointless.   He doesn't understand Cub Fans at all.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/cs-070920cubs,1,2640672.story

by coral on Sep 21, 2007 10:29 AM CDT   0 recs

re: Stupid Article
Yup, I noticed this article, too, and, after realizing its purpose, opted not to read it. What an obnoxious, tasteless, snarky effort to undertake at this point in the season. Why not save an article like that to run in the event the Cubs don't win the division?
"It's big because it knocks them out of semi-contention." Jason Marquis referring to the St. Louis Cardinals on 9/16/07

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 10:34 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I didn't mind it so much
It just shows how far this team has come.  However, I think the Trib now owes us a  "Best ten wins" story by the Cubs.

by Neifi Puppy on Sep 21, 2007 10:41 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

So ridiculous.
The Red Sox fan makes me want to throw things. "Oh, my GM is an evil supervillain whose evil plan for world domination is working like clockwork! Oh, woe is me! I can't understand the interaction of small sample sizes and relief pitching!" And you work for the dominate sports media platform of our day and age? Disgusting.

Joe Sheehan is absolutely right -- Red Sox fans need to shut the hell up.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Sep 21, 2007 11:20 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Marquis Jersey
Are you sure that Marquis jersey isn't just a SOSA jersey w/ the name taken off? Hehe. Whatever works!
You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 10:37 AM CDT   0 recs

Lineup
Per ESPN 1000
Soriano lf
DeRosa 2b
Lee 1b
Ramirez 3b
Murton rf
Soto c
Monroe cf
Theriot ss
Marquis p

by manny k on Sep 21, 2007 10:39 AM CDT   0 recs

Soto -- good, Monroe -- maybe
Hope Monroe begins to show his stuff.  I like Soto in there.

by zevkalman on Sep 21, 2007 10:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

sooooo due
Monroe is SO overdue for something to actually HAPPEN...

by drewishdrewid on Sep 21, 2007 11:14 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Interesting choice to
start Monroe.  But the Cubs acquired him because he can hit lefties.  Time to earn that paycheck.

by Neifi Puppy on Sep 21, 2007 10:44 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

re: Lineup
A lineup really, really wrought with righties. I'll go to war with this. It'd be nice to see Monroe get a big hit or two.
"It's big because it knocks them out of semi-contention." Jason Marquis referring to the St. Louis Cardinals on 9/16/07

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 21, 2007 10:46 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

MONROE = N!EF!
Detriot's payback.
You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 10:48 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Monroe>Niefi
monroe is better than niefi because...
I) Monroe much more power than Nieifi.

B) Monroe is much less of a Defensive liability

iii) Monroe does not have a brother who is in a Mereingi band.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=s1NsnRAaYiw

e) Monroe is not being overused by a manager determined not to play any young players.

5) Neifi perez needed perfomance enhancing drugs to reach his level of suckitude.

The Astros just asked me to start their next game

by jds2 on Sep 21, 2007 10:57 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Monroe will make an impact this weekend
He has hit some screaming line drives, a dead pull hitter who will occassionally spray a line drive to right field. His defense is okay and in the small field at Wrigley not much of a liability.

Baseball has so much failure...that it is easy to diss on a player, that is why nine bat....or you have a bullpen.

Monroe is so much better than Neifi than the dripping sarcasm was really uncalled for.

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 11:06 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

sorry
my intention was misread.  I like the aquiring of monroe and I wasn't trying ot diss him just point out that he is by no means neifi
The Astros just asked me to start their next game

by jds2 on Sep 21, 2007 11:08 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Fair enough...
...I just have not like what I've seen from him (hustle-wise). Was talking to a Tigers fan about him, and he is apparently a VERY streaky player. Let's hope that he can get it going this afternoon with the wind blowing out.
You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 21, 2007 11:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You should be used to the streaky player...
if you've watched Soriano at all.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 21, 2007 11:47 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I wasn't aware that Neifi was...
a defensive liability.  In fact, I thought his defense was the only remotely useful thing about him.  I'd say Neifi is more valuable defensively than Monroe (who's basically a corner OF).

by SouthernCub on Sep 21, 2007 12:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You are correct....
...although Neifi probably has attrophied to the point where he is no longer defensively adequate as an everyday shortstop anymore.

Oh, and amphetamines.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Sep 21, 2007 12:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Isn't that Neifi* ?
Gotta be consistent!
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Sep 21, 2007 12:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This lineup
is probably close to what we'll have all weekend with all LHP against us.  The only change I could see is kendall catching one or both of the remaining games.

Also, I think last night was the brewers best chance at getting a win vs. the braves...while I doubt they'll get swept I can't see them winning two of the next three.

The Astros just asked me to start their next game

by jds2 on Sep 21, 2007 10:48 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Lou is playing the HOT HANDS
Besides Soriano's power this month...where he is getting the most possible AB's for this power hot hand...7 HR's and 1.001-OPS
----DeRosa; For the month 23/66 .348....932-OPS
-----Soto  for the month 11/24 .458 ....1.375 OPS!

putting Theriot down in the 8th spot ahead of a good hitting pitcher allows him to use his 'energy game' as Theriot has been fading in September, 13/70 .186 (.256-OBP)....I think we may see Theriot down at that spot for the remainder of the season or unless his game suddenly picks up.

Club stats since June'07; 58-44, against LHP starters; 11-13, and 21-10 in one run games.

by Ivy Walls on Sep 21, 2007 10:52 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

SOTO
Nice!

by ms9av on Sep 21, 2007 10:42 AM CDT   0 recs

Why Theriot so low?
Any reason The Riot is down in the 8 spot? An attempt by Lou to "reload" the lineup at the bottom and maybe let Soriano get some more RBIs while he's hot?

Whatever it is, I agree with Lou....in Lou I trust ("in Lou we do"? "By Pinella, we're propella-ed"?...nothing seems to have the old "In Dusty we Trusty" ring to it....)

by Chadnudj on Sep 21, 2007 10:53 AM CDT   0 recs

perhaps
I like theriot at 8.  He seems to consistantly get good AB's and hopefully he can get onbase for either a sac bunt or to keep the 9 spot from leading off the next inning.   Plus if teams pitch around him to get to the 9 spot he won't strike out swinging at the bad pitches
The Astros just asked me to start their next game

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