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Postseason Hopes And Dreams... And Facts

When I was driving to work early this morning, this thirty-plus-year-old song came on the radio:

Dream on, dream on, dream on
Dream yourself a dream come true
Dream on, dream on, dream on
And dream until your dream comes true
-- Aerosmith

That's what we are doing, all of us, dreaming of more victories to come. With the magic number (I thought it was, at last, safe to return it to the sidebar) reduced to four, the division could be clinched as early as Wednesday in Miami (eerily appropriate, right?), or perhaps in front of what are likely to be huge Cub-centric crowds in Cincinnati this weekend.

A quick look at the potential matchups: the most likely scenario has the Cubs facing the Diamondbacks in the Division Series, with games one and two in Phoenix on Wednesday, October 3 and Thursday, October 4, before returning to Chicago on October 6 and 7 for games three and four; then, under the new playoff schedule, there would be another travel day before game 5 -- this is a good idea, I think. In the past there have been Division Series where teams have been forced to fly cross-country and play the next day.

The only way the Cubs could get the home field for the first round is if the Diamondbacks retained the best record in the NL, and somehow, the Cubs managed to finish with a better record than the NL East champion. At this moment, the Cubs trail the Mets, the current NL East leader, by four and a half games (the elimination number for this scenario is three, so it's very unlikely).

Further, the Cubs could wind up playing the Mets in the first round if the Phillies beat out the Padres for the wild card -- still possible, as the Phillies trail the Padres by only half a game. Even the Rockies still have a wild card chance; their win yesterday, their eighth in a row (setting a franchise record for wins), put them a game and a half behind the Padres. If Colorado should win the wild card, and the Diamondbacks retain the NL's best record, the Cubs would still play Arizona in round one.

This, then, will be an exciting last week of the season in the NL (the AL berths are all wrapped up -- only the AL East and wild card are to be determined between the Red Sox and Yankees, one will be the division winner, the other the wild card), with six teams within 1.5 games of a playoff spot (that includes the division leaders).

A brief word, if I may, about this site and postseason tickets. I have for the last three seasons provided a place on this site where people can exchange tickets. It's worked quite well for those with extras, who have been matched up with people looking for tickets, all at face value. I fully understand that some people may have playoff tickets that, for whatever reason, they can't use and want to sell, and wish to make extra money from them. That said, I cannot and will not allow BCB to be used for over-face-value ticket sale posts. I'm also going to ask all of you NOT to post diaries asking for tickets -- as you can imagine, that might quickly overrun the diary list. I have made a Division Series ticket exchange post, which is located in the Ticket Exchange section of this site (always located on the left sidebar). If it gets too crazy in there, I reserve the right to delete it.

Congratulations to those of you who got through and got tickets yesterday. If you didn't, remember this: the Division Series is just one of three playoff rounds; maybe you'll get lucky the next time.

In the meantime, there is still work to be done, a division to be clinched in the next few days, and as he has done all season, Lou Piniella has his team focused on that goal:

"We've been prepared for this, for the eventuality of this," Piniella said. "It's looked that way all along. Now we've got some business to take care of, and hopefully we can do it soon so we can rest our team a little bit.

"But, look, the important thing is getting it done. So we're going to go to Florida on Tuesday and give it everything we've got, like we've been doing, and take our chances."

Exactly right. I wasn't in favor of Lou's hiring a year ago... but he's won me over. I don't think I've ever seen a Cub manager as prepared, as knowledgeable, as willing to make changes when necessary, as focused on the goal of winning, as Lou Piniella is. He has done a tremendous job, and was, in retrospect, exactly the right man to hire for this ballclub. Take a look at this quote from Pirates manager Jim Tracy that I've put in the quote box on the right sidebar today:

"You've got to give them credit, we ran into a buzzsaw here. That's it. They are very focused and on a mission, and after today, personally, I think they're going to accomplish it."

Focused and on a mission. Exactly right. Enjoy the off day. Go Cubs.

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Totally agree on...
Lou being the right guy for this job. I was all for Girardi getting hired, but Lou has won me over...
You ARE freaking out MAN!

by crw89 on Sep 24, 2007 8:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Count me in
I also didn't want Lou to be our manager originally, but wanted Joe. I wanted Joe because I had seen what he could do with the Marlins and was very impressed by his success there. It certainly wasn't an easy gig for him, but he did well (certainly learned a lot from the other Joe - Torre - in NY).

At the beginning of the year in Lou's press conferences, he started to win me over by saying the right things. As the season opened and went on, I began to trust him more and more (even though we weren't winning and playing well) because I could see why he was hired. I have to say I stand here red-faced because I didn't want him as the manager for the Cubs. His hiring has GOT to count as one of the best offseason deals the Cubs did last year. I honestly don't think that we would be in this position if Lou wasn't here (among a few other key signings).

I know he only signed a 3 year deal, but I'm all for him being extended for as long as he wants! I may be a Johnny-Come-Lately in the Lou camp, but hey, better late than never!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 24, 2007 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

sweet lou
has really kept the team loose and relaxed. I like how he doesn't make any excuses when they don't play well (like a certain former manager, that will not be named).
You can't quiet THE RIOT (riotshirts.com)

by TipsyMcStagger on Sep 24, 2007 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely
Lou has done an amazing job.  Think back to the beginning of the season, when we sucked.  Lou kept plugging in different guys and tooling with the lineup.  It worked.

If Dusty were still managing, Cesar Izturis (f/k/a Neifi Perez) would still be playing most of the time, with Theriot sitting on the bench.  Fontenot would be at Triple A.  And we would be ten games under .500.  

by MikeIowa on Sep 25, 2007 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Amen
Amen to that. I have been VERY impressed by Sweet Lou. Starting with the ejection. He took all of the conversation off of Z and Barrett and placed the focus of the media and fans sqaurely on himself. You could almost hear the team loosen up.

by Archie on Sep 24, 2007 8:37 AM CDT reply actions  

AL
I was sitting near you yesterday but didnt get a chance to come by.  ANYWAYS, what a great STRESSLESS game to go to.  I have never seen the bleacher line so crazy, great atmosphere.

Still work to do.....GO CUBS

Hey.....Cubs win!!!

by Hammer on Sep 24, 2007 8:46 AM CDT reply actions  

favorites
who would you say are the favorites in both leagues?

i think cleveland looks like the best team in the al, though all of those teams are pretty formidable.  boston probably has a better roster, but cleveland has great balance, and a better 1-2 in the rotation.

the mets scare me the most in the nl, pretty much based on the fact that pedro is back and looks good.

Coming on strong when it matters, Murton's September line: .361/.425/.583/1.008 boo ya.

by kylejo on Sep 24, 2007 8:49 AM CDT reply actions  

The Mets...
... have almost been in free-fall the last couple of weeks. Billy Wagner blew a save yesterday. Frankly, I don't think there IS a favorite in the NL.

During spring training I thought the Angels were by far the best team I saw, and possibly the best team in baseball. I haven't seen anything that's changed my mind.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Sep 24, 2007 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah but
so were the white sox in 05, and so were the cards in 06.  

personally, i have total faith in this cubs team no matter who we square off against, but the mets still scare me the most.

Coming on strong when it matters, Murton's September line: .361/.425/.583/1.008 boo ya.

by kylejo on Sep 24, 2007 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agree...
If SD does win the wild card and we play the D-Backs first, I think I'd rather play the Mets than SD.

Either way it appears the Cubs are on a collision course for some historical revenge ('69 or '84). After that, give us the Yankees in the WS. Of course that will ensure that us non-season ticket holders will have no chance of attendin a game.

"You know what? You want a job? Go out and earn one." Sweet Lou

by Kyle Turney on Sep 24, 2007 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Favorites will be determined after the first game
Sure the experts including us will provide a pre-series favorite...some will base it on the embodiment of the regular season results, others will look at September trends and others will access the matchups in a short series all valid in making a pre-series argument.

But what is clear to me is the favorite will be determined after the first game of the series, if the Cubs win they will be the favorite to win the series and if AZ wins they will be the favorite.

As for AZ, SD, and CO. CO is white hot right now and they go to LAD to see if they can extend their improbable push. They could take all three in LA...while Philly goes to Atlanta and SD goes to SF while AZ gets to travel to empty Pitts. By the weekend one can ably project that CO and Philly are one game out where SD is in dangerous Milwaukee, CO is playing a clinched AZ and Philly is playing the dangerous but lowly Washington. Could a three-way tie emerge?

 

Club stats since June'07; 61-44 BEST in NL, against LHP starters; 14-13, and 21-10 in one run games, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN!

by Ivy Walls on Sep 24, 2007 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

colorado
jeff francis is pretty good, but not an ace im afraid of, and who's behind him?  i really hope they make the playoffs because that will be another weak opponent with not pitching staff.
Coming on strong when it matters, Murton's September line: .361/.425/.583/1.008 boo ya.

by kylejo on Sep 24, 2007 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Colorado's kids have been tough.
Ubaldo Jimenez and Franklin Morales have both been pretty good overall, and awfully good at times.

They're unlikely to win the wildcard, but they picked the right time to get really hot vs. the teams leading them in the division.

by ClosingTime on Sep 24, 2007 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Unlikely of course...they are 2 down in the loss
column and behind Phillies who play Atlanta and Washington. Colorado plays LAD on the road and either smitten or disinterested for they fell out of it, then AZ at home. But they are on a 8 game winning streak and the hottest team in baseball right now.

They are pitching short, and rely on Hawkins and Fuentes, Corpas closing in the bullpen. But they have a great hitting team. No weaknesses. Besides Holliday, Hawpe, Helton (the 3 H's) Atkins at 3B, they also have Tulowitzke and Spillborghs as very young and other young big bats in Stewart and Kochansky who can't get in. Also Taveras is essentially replaced after trading for him while Matsui is at 2B has speed. They have a young Francis, Jimenez and experienced Fogg as starters.

They are a little better than Milwaukee, better defense in the OF and on the infield and would be the Cinderella story. BTW they broke their club record with 84 wins yesterday and feel they have to reach 89 to force a tie with Philly or SD.  

Club stats since June'07; 61-44 BEST in NL, against LHP starters; 14-13, and 21-10 in one run games, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN!

by Ivy Walls on Sep 24, 2007 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I concur with Al
When the Mets came to Chicago, there were games that we really should've won, but gave away to them. Living out here in NYC, I can tell you that there are Met fans who are pretty upset with the meltdown they have been going through the past few weeks and allowing Philly to climb back into the division race.

That being said, the Mets don't scare me. We can play them and beat them. I do like Demps, but I wouldn't gamble with putting him in to close out the games against them in this series. Wait til next year to have him do that. The only team that does scare me right now is the Baby Backs. They seem to have our number, but we have an advantage over them. That advantage being veterans who have been through playoffs before and can lead this team - Lee, Aram, Sori, Floyd, Wood, to name a few. SD would be the next scariest team we'd have to face, what with Maddux, Peavy, and Young (and Hoffman closing).

One nice thing about the postseason is that it's a new season and everyone starts out with a clean slate. Like Tracy said, this team is a buzzsaw that's on a mission. I say let's cut through the playoff and saw off that Goat off our back!

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 24, 2007 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

pedro, glavine, maine
still a good 1, 2, 3 with a way better offense than sd.  i welcome arizona with no pitchers who can really dominate a game.
Coming on strong when it matters, Murton's September line: .361/.425/.583/1.008 boo ya.

by kylejo on Sep 24, 2007 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps...but....
We can handle them. I don't think that Glavine has great overall numbers against the Cubs. We rocked Maine the last time we faced him. I don't know what our record is or how well (or not) we hit Pedro in the past. Even so, we had chances to win those games against the Mets. Early in the year and a few of the recent games, it was our bullpen that blew our chances. Early in the year, it was a major problem. The recent games were more of a surprise, given how our bullpen had really turned it around. Also, the Mets have been playing pretty poorly over the past few weeks and seems to be losing some confidence in themselves.

It really doesn't matter who we face first (or second or third) because it's going to be a hard-fought series no matter what. I still like our chances and especially since we're getting hot at the right time. Shades of last year's WS champs, wouldn'tcha say?

Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 24, 2007 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Arizona's staff
Someone said the D-backs don't have a dominating starter. What about Brandon Webb? Didn't he pitch three shutouts in a row earlier this year? If that's not dominating, I don't know what is.
"Have Keith Moreland drop a routine fly. Give everybody two bags of peanuts and a frosty malt, And I'll be ready to die." -Steve Goodman

by danimal15 on Sep 24, 2007 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agree, and
isn't Livan Hernandez still on their roster?

He's a good post season pitcher, and despite his regular season troubles, certain players always rise to the occassion.

by cubby23 on Sep 25, 2007 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am not a big Hendry fan
but when he had the baseball sense to hire Piniella, over a local fan favorite it showed me something.  The team Hendry gave to Lou this year was still flawed (too many duplicate parts), but Lou took the first 40-50 games and figured out what he wanted and what he didn't want.  Without Piniella at the helm, there is no question this team wins 10 less games to this point in the season.

Piniella has a feel for the game and players abilities better than any manager I have ever seen in this town, and let's hope the momentum, is just starting to build.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Sep 24, 2007 8:51 AM CDT reply actions  

For those of you who said Z wanst the staff Ace
....Youre all wrong, lilly has been great but in a game 7 i want to see Z on the mound, and yesterday he show me why again, the best pitcher in mlb

by Alfonso on Sep 24, 2007 9:20 AM CDT reply actions  

On "Mike and Mike" this morning
they were dismissing the Cubs for "going out and buying a team."

I nearly choked on my Cheerios.  Um, hello, anyone ever heard of the friggin YANKEES?

"Pythagoras don't play baseball." --Al (paraphrased)

by Teacherdave on Sep 24, 2007 9:22 AM CDT reply actions  

mike and mike...
...are moronic, and their view of the cubs evidences such.
"If you'da been thinkin you wouldn't 'a thought that." ~~ "Squints" Palledorous

by rm463 on Sep 24, 2007 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Golic's a football dummy
and I am surprised at Greenberg. He's a Cub's fan and knowledgeable about baseball. We don't really have too many "rent-a-players" if any. Sori is long term, a few of the others are journeymen, we re-signed Z and  Aramis, the kids are from our own system. Jacques was already here, Cliff is at the end of his career. Don't know where we "bought" a team.
"When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches."- Ron Santo

by BigJohnAZ on Sep 24, 2007 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

rami isn't exactly a kid from our system,
but i get your point.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 24, 2007 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't include ARam as a kid from our system
the kids are Theriot, Fontenot, Pie, etc. He was one of the guys we signed to new deals/extensions .
"When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches."- Ron Santo

by BigJohnAZ on Sep 24, 2007 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

ah, i've got to learn to read.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 24, 2007 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha
pittsburgh very well be our AAAA team, i know theres no such thing as a AAAA team but PIT plays like one and supplies talent like one
Len: did you know what was going on with the tamohawk chop? DeRo: Whadda you think?

by tomlambsays on Sep 24, 2007 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

isn't Pittsburgh in our farm
system?  They sure seem to behave that way in the way they provide talent to us!  :-)
Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Sep 24, 2007 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

dissmissing what?
their long term prospects, or their body of work this season?
Coming on strong when it matters, Murton's September line: .361/.425/.583/1.008 boo ya.

by kylejo on Sep 24, 2007 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agree...
Basically what they did was build a foundation in one year by signing, Z, Soriano, Lilly, and Ramirez all at the same time.  Most teams do that over a few years, but this year was our year to do it so we did it.

And if we win it all, i think it was worth it.

"I love this world. I hope hell is as much fun!"

by HIGGY on Sep 24, 2007 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Sep 24, 2007 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

it was worth it even if we don't win it all
this is a good team; and last year at this time, the cubs were terrible.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 24, 2007 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

What?
This is the most homegrown the Cubs have ever been.  The only bought players are Soriano and Lilly.  Everyone else was either brought up through the system (Z, Theriot, Marmol, Pie, Soto), acquired in good deals using our system (DLee, Ramirez, Murton, Fontenot, Kendall, Trachsel), or pulled off the scrap heap (Marquis, Jones, Floyd).  

Hendry built this team using a good farm system, shrewd deals, and filling holes with free agents.  How in the world is that buying a team?  I can't stand The Score in the morning, but now I don't think I can respect Mike and Mike either.  Guess it's the iPod playing Steve Goodman on repeat the whole way to work from now on.

by HectorVillanueva on Sep 24, 2007 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mike and Mike
If it ain't the NFL or Yankees/Red Sox, they have no idea what they're talking about.

The media can't have it both ways- they can't say "the cubs are too cheap to spend money!" and when the cubs succeed yell "the cubs bought their success!"

by SouthsideCub on Sep 24, 2007 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was 50/50 regarding Pinella/Girardi
and have been 100% for Pinella since spring training. A great pick by Hendry, it shows even though we may not have all the pieces, Lou knows how to get the most out of what he has. Looking forward to seeing the Cubs here in the desert next week!
"When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches."- Ron Santo

by BigJohnAZ on Sep 24, 2007 9:26 AM CDT reply actions  

question...
How many games back where we from the Brewers at the worst point in the season?

by AWrigley on Sep 24, 2007 10:15 AM CDT reply actions  

answer...
I believe we were 8 1/2 back at the lowest point of the season.
Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 24, 2007 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Answer...
... 8.5 games behind after losing in Texas on June 21. It remained 8.5 games for the next two days, then started falling.

Complete day-by-day schedule from baseball-reference.com

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Sep 24, 2007 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

We were 8 back on May 12
n/t
"When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches."- Ron Santo

by BigJohnAZ on Sep 24, 2007 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oops, sorry, missed that!
n/t
"When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches."- Ron Santo

by BigJohnAZ on Sep 24, 2007 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Check out this website
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHC/2007_sched.shtml love this for all the info provided.
"When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches."- Ron Santo

by BigJohnAZ on Sep 24, 2007 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

wow, that's amazing.
talk about peaking at the right time.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 24, 2007 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Question...
What is the Cubs' largest lead this year?

by montanacubby on Sep 24, 2007 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

All this Cubs team needs right now...
...is to maintain that "killer instinct" that Michael Jordan used to talk about. That ability to finish off opponents when they're down. The Cubs did a great job of it this weekend with the Pirates. Now it's just time to carry it through to the Marlins and Reds and, in doing so, put away the Brewers.

This Pittsburgh series was simply and powerfully narcotic. I've never done heroin, but I can only imagine it feels a little like that warm glow I had sitting on my couch yesterday afternoon watching Wuertz put away those Pirates hitters 1, 2, 3.

We're almost back to that surreal, wonderful place, fellow Cubs fans. Where the Cubs are champions and Cubbie Blue greets the cool, crisp October air.

But, as Lou wisely indicated in his post-game conference yesterday, the key word there is "almost." Here's hoping to a strong, exhilarating, killer finish.

Don't tase me, bro!

by daver on Sep 24, 2007 10:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Piniella
From the moment I heard he was hired, I was glad to hear it.  I've always respected the guy as a manager who knew how to win.  And he brings a certain sort of grit to it, which has made itself evident in the way the team has been playing the second half of the season.  No more "We'll get 'em tomorrow..." here, now they fight until the last out.  Give them a two-run lead, they want more.  

That's the way to win games, series, playoffs, and, dare I even think it...

by MN exile on Sep 24, 2007 10:24 AM CDT reply actions  

A liitle bit of injury business...
...Cedeno will start again on Tuesday. Theriot is still suffering back spasms.

Oh, and Z needs to drink more Gatorade. Yeesh.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Sep 24, 2007 10:24 AM CDT reply actions  

theriot
needs all the rest he can get, the guy operates on pure energy, and hes been wearing out all month.
Coming on strong when it matters, Murton's September line: .361/.425/.583/1.008 boo ya.

by kylejo on Sep 24, 2007 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think the
cubs should rest the big bats when they clinch
Len: did you know what was going on with the tamohawk chop? DeRo: Whadda you think?

by tomlambsays on Sep 24, 2007 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

i disagree.
i'd still give them regular at bats. it's a fine line. i don't want soriano to push the leg, but i want him to keep his timing; same with rami, lee, etc. i might rest floyd. i'd try to give j.j. some at bats.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 24, 2007 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you were watching the sentimental stroll in
the outfield after the 10th inning show you would have seen Theriot walking his his 2 year boy Houston in the outfield. Just before going off the air Theriot picked up the bundle of joy and you can see he had more than a slight back spasm...he compensated greatly picking up the child with evidenced stiffness in his lower back.

My guess is that Cedeno plays the entire series...and Theriot gets maximum therapy....

Club stats since June'07; 61-44 BEST in NL, against LHP starters; 14-13, and 21-10 in one run games, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN!

by Ivy Walls on Sep 24, 2007 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

My personal feeling on the matter...
...is that you let them start the games but you get very proactive with late-inning replacements. And I'd like to see Ward get a start or two here to keep him fresh.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Sep 24, 2007 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

re: My personal feeling on the matter...
This makes sense to me. Kinda like reverting to a spring training mentality. Let the big guys get some work in to stay sharp and give the younger players/backups some mid- to late-inning experience.
Don't tase me, bro!

by daver on Sep 24, 2007 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

i dont
know about the big bats but they should sit marmol/howry for sure. they have pitched alot
put soriano in the 5-hole please!!!!

by tbizzle83 on Sep 24, 2007 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

But Brawndo
has electrolytes
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Sep 25, 2007 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Longshot
If the Diamondbacks lose the rest of their games, and the Cubs end up with the best record in the NL, with the Rockies as the wild card, the Cubs would play the Rockies.  There are tickets for the NLDS for sale right now on the Rockies' website.  You can get 4 seats together.  The tickets are refundable if the games do not happen.

Just an idea.  

The call of the Cub fan, c. 1893: "one long, ravaged, derisive yell...a cyclonic whoop!"

by cubzfan on Sep 24, 2007 10:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Don't count on it
The Baby Backs aren't going to lose the rest of their games. I believe they're heading to Pittsburgh now. The Rox aren't heading to the playoffs this year. Count on that.
Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 24, 2007 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

The rox.....
Not sure why you think they aren't going to the playoffs. Although a longshot, they are only 1.5gms back and easily the hottest team running right now. Your right, they wont win the division, however the WC is very attainable....
You gotta believe!!!

by bolson1076 on Sep 24, 2007 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I say the Rox is unlikely because
the Pads are going to SF to play them, then Milwaukee. The Rox are going to LA, then to AZ. If there's anyone that the Pads need to be worried about, it's Philly. They're a mere 1/2 game behind and they've been hotter than the Rox.
Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 24, 2007 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Marlins vs Cubs
LUCKY ME ..... I have great seats for Wed. &
Thurs... compliments of buddies at ESPN Radio.
I watch Marlin quite a bit.... they have folded
the tent.... I look for the Cubs to win the first
two then lose the last game because they will be
hung over from celebrating the NLC Title they won
on Wed.

by FlaCub on Sep 24, 2007 10:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Managers do matter!

I was also a Girardi man, but Lou has also won me over. After 4 years of Dusty ball, where the primary goal of the manager was to be liked by his veteran players, it is enormously refreshing to see a manager who is focused on winning.

A good example of "Lou Ball" is Soto being moved into the starting lineup late in the season. Kendall has impressed me with his hustle and presence, but Lou obviously wanted to see if the team is stronger with Soto behind the plate, and so far it appears like we are a better team with Soto.

Can anyone imagine Dusty moving a young player into the lineup ahead of a vet in September??? (That is the definition of a rhetorical question)

I also like DeRosa 2nd and Theriot 8th, although I would prefer that either of them be inserted into the lead off spot ahead of Soriano.

The point is, that Sweet Lou has tinkered with this team all year, and the tinkering was done with a purpose in mind, namely to find out what line up gives us the best chance of winning. That is the goal which makes all other goals secondary....and it's made me a big Lou fan....

by perseman on Sep 24, 2007 10:52 AM CDT reply actions  

It's a great feeling to know Lou is in charge.
Cubs losses are always difficult to take. But in recent years, they were exponentially tougher on the fans, because each of us knew that we could do better than the moron in charge.

Suffice it to say, I no longer have that feeling. Lou knows more about baseball strategy, handling a pitching staff, and using his bench effectively than all of us combined. The one thing that I love most is Lou's killer instinct - in a close game, he will pick his moment and play to win the game right now - no holding back for extra innings in case things go wrong. Win the thing and hit the showers.

In recent years, we stewed in an impotent rage as we watched an incompetent doofus attempt to destroy the team's present and future in one fell swoop. Journeymen were eating up the high-leverage at-bats and innings pitched, at the expense of younger guys. Pitchers were racking up 130+ pitch outings at incredible rates (In 2003, I believe that the Cubs accounted for more than half of the 130+ pitch outings in MLB!), and on a day-to-day basis, the manager's moves seemed to be intentionally counter-intutive, as if he KNEW that the smart play was the opposite action, but thought that he'd look especially smart if his wacky strategy paid off.

Hence, the double-switches that resulted in the pitcher's spot coming up sooner, the double-switches in spots where the new pitcher would not pitch more than one inning, the refusal to acknowledge Jacque's huge troubles with lefties, or Remmy's reverse splits, or the fact that Jose Macias did nothing well, and was literally the worst player in MLB - the "800th man on the MLB roster", so to speak.

The old manager put players in spots where they were more likely to fail, for no reason. John Mabry replacing Jacque in RF due to an unnecessary double-switch, for instance. Lou puts his guys in situations where they are most likely to succeed - and every player on the roster knows their role.

Ultimately, the Cubs' losses in 2007 have been the result of the guys physically failing to execute. Those losses hurt, but they beat the hell out of last year's losses, in which we were often simply out-foxed - going down with the tying runs on base and our worst hitters at the plate. (In one case, bunting to end the game.)

It's a calming feeling to know that, when we lose, we absolutely gave it our best shot and left nothing on the field.

It's a calming feeling to know that our young players are being incorporated into the MLB club, granted opportunities, and upon succeeding, granted high-leverage opportunities.

It's a calming feeling to know that our manager is aware of the strengths and weakness of all 25 of his players, and that he believes in reasonably limited pitch counts.

This season will end in one of only two ways - Lou Piniella hoisting a World Series trophy, or Lou Piniella congratulating an opponent who played better baseball, either next Sunday or sometime thereafter.

We will not lose a winnable game because of managerial error.

by ClosingTime on Sep 24, 2007 10:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Your analysis is spot on
Dusty was truly a disaster, and had little to know baseball acumen. While Lou succeeds SOLELY by putting the best players (old OR young, lefty OR righty) into situations in which they're most likely to succeed. These decisions are based on numbers, not on "hunches."

The reality is that the players loved Dusty because he put no pressure on them, and allowed them to simply try their best.

Lou is the opposite- Lou says, I don't care if you feel pressure, just go out there and perform, or someone else IS going to replace you. Period.

While the players loved Dusty, the fans should love Lou.

by SouthsideCub on Sep 24, 2007 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

funny thing about managing or coaching
If you hold that the only reason to play the game is to win than the only responsibility you have is to make decisions for the club that puts them in the best position to win.

Players know this, they have a running score in their head when players perform and when they don't. Playing your guys...Dusty's mantra...works only if they produce....if they don't then what...

This is what is going on right now with the Bears. They got a QB not performing. Changes have to be made. So Lou plays those he says has a hot hand, those he has reason to believe will give the team the best chance at winning the game.

In that process he had to reclaim Eyre, work in Theriot, get Jones to produce and eak out a RF. As it stands both Murton and Floyd are having their best months. Lee has recovered and Ramirez has remained playably healthy.

Club stats since June'07; 61-44 BEST in NL, against LHP starters; 14-13, and 21-10 in one run games, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN!

by Ivy Walls on Sep 24, 2007 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go Cards!
(runs away crouched with arms covering head)

by SouthsideCub on Sep 24, 2007 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

great analogy
 You've summed up the Piniella era perfectly. It IS refreshing to watch a Cub game knowing the mgr. did all he could to put the team in the best position to win.  Even though the season was a roller coaster ride, I can't remember a season where the Cubs had as few losing blowouts as this year. Surely a tribute to the skipper.
"It's a funny old world. Man's lucky if he gets out of it alive." W.C. Fields

by KedzieKid on Sep 24, 2007 11:29 AM CDT reply actions  

NLDS tickets @ Chase field
NLDS tickets can be obtained on Arizona's website.  You need to enter the code PSX7W when prompted.  I bought 4 club seats to both games for $60 each.  This code was sent to me in an email since I subscribed to their website.  This is not a season ticket holder code.

by 1060 W Addison on Sep 24, 2007 11:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks! I grabbed some too!
n/t
The call of the Cub fan, c. 1893: "one long, ravaged, derisive yell...a cyclonic whoop!"

by cubzfan on Sep 24, 2007 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got some as well.
Hope to go out there next week. Let's take over Phoenix!
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Sep 24, 2007 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the Cubs are there
I'll be watching them. I just hope it's not a day game or some attorneys are going to be pissed.
It's not to late to go to Soto.

by tharr on Sep 24, 2007 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am glad Al
that Lou won you over.

I wanted him hired badly as I thought with the Superstars, and his knack for playing the hot hand, and not change-adverse, would be something the team would benefit from.

I still didn't think the team would be above .500, however. Improved - but not to the point they are now.

I have a bet to pay off here, fortunately!

Being there on Sunday, I saw a confident team that had all aspects of their game going at the same time - at the RIGHT time!

It is SEPTEMBER, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Sep 24, 2007 11:57 AM CDT reply actions  

I couldn't agree more.
We got what we wanted -- I wasn't sure Lou was the right guy, but he turned out to be EXACTLY the right guy.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Sep 24, 2007 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

New cubbie fan on the way
During the pure joy of yesterday's pirate pummelling, my wife and I felt the season of new beginnings had taken a serious positive turn when not only did princess and the boo-hoo crew fall apart in front of our eyes, but we found out that in nine months either Kaya Eve or Ryne Addison Graham (I hope, I hope!) will make their way into this world.

Let's assume that this new bundle of joy is an omen for even better things the rest of this fall, and that our child will only know of the Cubs as that team that won the world series this time next year.

Go Cubs, can't wait for the last few days to play themselves out.

by The Ryno and I Know on Sep 24, 2007 11:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Congratulations
to you and your wife. Whether it turns out to be another Ryne or a Jenny Finch you will love it. Best wishes on a healthy baby.

GO CUBS!!!

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 24, 2007 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's now a kid named "Wrigley Fields"
No, I'm not kidding. Full story here.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Sep 24, 2007 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have a friend
who named her cat Wrigley but a child named Wrigley? Not sure I care for that or a child named Zambrano either.
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 24, 2007 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think
in 2003, there was a story in the Peoria Journal Star about a couple that incorporated all four the streets that border Wrigley into their 4 kids' names. I think that Waveland and Sheffield were middle names. Now that's dedication!

My yet to be conceived first child, which should be a girl by our prediction, is ear marked to be Addison. :-)

fly your W flag Cubs fans!

by love the ivy on Sep 25, 2007 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

congrats
go cubs go
Len: did you know what was going on with the tamohawk chop? DeRo: Whadda you think?

by tomlambsays on Sep 24, 2007 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scott - if you're reading
I will payoff to DLEE's charity or Cubs Care.
It is SEPTEMBER, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Sep 24, 2007 11:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Both good causes
that can use your donation.

I just bought a house, so it might be a stretch to do it, but if you let me know which you contribute to, I'll still try to match it to the other before the end of the year. Over .500 or not, still worth the money!

by Scott @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Sep 24, 2007 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

40+yrs as a Cub fan, seen only 4 really good mgrs
Durocher....he gambled without a bench and lost but he was a driver and excellent manager who made the Cubs competitive.

--Herman Franks, he got more out nothing than an expert fishing guide does out of an fished out lake. His teams hovered around .500 against better teams without much of a roster.

---Don Zimmer, he had already been successful in Boston and brought that kind of swagger and grit to Chicago. 93 wins is the club best beating Durocher's 92 in '69, although Durocher won 87, 84(2) and 82 games before being fired 2 games over .500.

Piniella is better than all of them in game strategy and tactics, motivation and situationally setting up the other manager. He really doesn't have a super starting staff like Durocher did with Jenkins, Holtzman, Hands and Selma or Pappas or the big threesome of Sutcliffe, Maddux and Bielecki that Zimmer had, he has Bipolar Zambrano, cool consistent Lilly, almost there Hill and the grinder Marquis. But Piniella has what Zimmer and Durocher did not have, 6 able arms in the bullpen, one a dominator.  

He also has a mix-match lineup outside his big 3 or 4 (Soriano, Lee, Ramirez and versatile DeRosa), with good role players throughout.

Whomever noticed that Piniella goes for the win at different points is correct in game strategy in that he can with Marmol, Howry, Wuertz and now Eyre. When Guzman was right he him also. Nasty stuff they have and ironically the Cubs also get the most outs via the strikeout which has quietly placed this club as one of the best defensive clubs in my lifetime.

More importantly Lou has found the way to insert better defenders into the game when offense is less necessary with this bullpen. Pie and now Fuld are excellent OF'ers, Jones is not bad so when the outs are more important Lou can take them away.

He is the best manager in my lifetime. He is about team and ironically we now see this A-Rod rumor coming alive. A Jordan like ambition where AROD is seeking a back channel way to buy into the fraternity of owners. If true and part of the entire buyout this would change everything. A Rod would come in as the SS but also move to CF or RF as well. But what is interesting is that AROD is exploring playing for Lou.

Club stats since June'07; 61-44 BEST in NL, against LHP starters; 14-13, and 21-10 in one run games, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN!

by Ivy Walls on Sep 24, 2007 12:01 PM CDT reply actions  

another thread
after a win where Sweet Lou gets all the credit...

its incredible to me how common the theme is:

Cubs win = Lou's responsibility

Cubs lose = Hendry's Fault or Players fault

its utterly amazing to me

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 24, 2007 12:14 PM CDT reply actions  

You've been wrong all year, why stop now?
(Kidding, to some extent.)

If you can't see the difference between last year's managerial strategy and this year's managerial strategy, then I don't know what to tell you.

Lou hasn't made the kinds of mistakes that the last guy did. As such, the games are being won and lost between the lines. When we lose, it's simply a case of not getting the job done. When we win, it's because the players execute. In both cases, the best possible player for the situation is usually at the plate or on the mound.

There was a similar change in strategy in the GM office - for instance, Hendry pursued difference-makers and built a legitimate MLB bench during this offseason, after specifically declining to do so for 2 1/2 years.

The players deserve credit for winning games this year. Lou deserves credit for putting the players in situations where they are most likely to succeed.

The former manager deserves derision, and a brief (but hilarious) stint in the broadcast booth watching other men manage games correctly while waiting in vain for his phone to ring, dude.

by ClosingTime on Sep 24, 2007 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

wrong?
i said the Cubs would win 83-87 games this season

in fact most "statistically inclined" people and websites predicted the exact same thing

and these predictions have nothing to do with managerial candidates, they have to do with personnel

the Cubs personnel was suggested to result in a 83-87 win team prior to the season

and it looks like that number will be pretty close to being accurate

I'm not "against Lou" as people like to pit me. My opinion is that managers make very little difference over the course of the season. That for the most part managers across MLB are pretty similar in their talents and thus the actual difference is minimal compared to the attention it gets in the mainstream media.

We decide to attach all these positive feelings to Lou because we've labelled him a "good manager". Notice these same things happened with Dusty when he first started and the Cubs had a team with tons of talent as well.

We label managers "good" or "bad" based on their past resumes and then judge accordingly. As such when we got off to a bad start at the beginning of the year Lou was rarely criticized. The fault was on the players or Jim Hendry's because we in our minds had labelled Lou as a good manager, thus it couldnt be his fault.

Now that they're winning we attach it to Lou. It's silly, we should at least be consistent, don't you think?

And if Lou IS the difference (and not the acquisitions of Soriano, Marquis, Lilly or the youngsters producing like Marmol, Marshall, Theriot) then why did his teams in Tampa Bay struggle so much???? If Jim Leyland IS the difference in Detroit, why did his Colorado teams struggle so much????

I remain firm in my beliefs that TALENT dictates success. And the managers that we judge to be the best are the ones that have been fortunate to have gone into situations where they've had extraordinary talent (like Lou in SEA, CIN, NYY or Dusty in SF or Leyland in DET, FLA)

I'm not saying Lou is worse than Dusty or that Lou is a bad manager, i'm simply saying (and have been all year) that its ironic who we assess credit and blame too and that in the end if you think Pineilla is THE REASON we've gone from 66 wins to 83+ wins then you're completely ignoring the difference in talent between last years and this years team.

Subtract Soriano, DLee (essentially lost half a season), Marquis, Lilly, DeRosa... and i'm willing to bet you we arent even close to competing for the playoffs

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 24, 2007 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

i agree with you to a point
you are right that talent should dictate the outcome in the end, and that lou is not the reason this team was turned around so completely.

but what lou does and his predecessor did not, is recognize that talent a lot faster and make better use of it.  

Coming on strong when it matters, Murton's September line: .361/.425/.583/1.008 boo ya.

by kylejo on Sep 24, 2007 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe
i mean Dusty is the one that played Murton all last year while Murton was resigned to part-time player this season

Dusty was the one playing Theriot at the end of last year and giving Cedeno a full year at SS

Dusty made a lot of changes last year that allowed younger players to get playing time. The problem is none of those changes worked very well because the Cubs were throwing out a AA rotation on most nights and a roster in general loaded with poor talent

When Dusty had great talent in 2003 and 2004 those teams won games, won lots of games.

Is Lou a better manager than Dusty? I'd probably lean towards yes, but again i think the difference is so minimal that it doesnt deserve anywhere close to the attention it gets around here.

The bottom line is the difference between this years team and the past two years where the team has struggled was this off-season when the team made a committment to trying to spend money to fix things.

That committment (no matter how silly it was for the future) is one that is THE major reason for this team's turn-around from last season.

Whether its Dusty or Lou on the bench this team was going to be SIGNIFICANTLY better than last season's team

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 24, 2007 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are most probably correct in your analysis
and maybe the reason (at least for me) that we give Lou more props than Dusty is that the '06 team had NO chemistry, looked uninterested and dead most games, except for a couple of players. We all got tired of Neifi and Freddy Bynum and their shortcomings. You would watch them and were waiting for the bad baserunning and lack of plate discipline.

These last 2 or 3 months I feel excited watching the Cubs like I did in late '03. Fundamentally sound baseball and winning will do that. I don't mind watching a loss if the team plays hard and intelligently and just plain gets beat that day. We seem to be better at our fundamentals and better clutch hitting for the most part this year. All most Cub fans want is a competetive team every year. A sniff at the playoffs one year and a few years below .500 are hard to take.

Even with the talent Atlanta has had for a decade +, you still have to hand it to Bobby Cox and the players to pay the price and either win the division or at least be in the hunt year after year after year.

"When you're eight games behind, it's like eight miles; when you're eight games in front, it's like eight inches."- Ron Santo

by BigJohnAZ on Sep 24, 2007 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correction or definition
96 wins in 1984 by Jim Frey
93 wins & 1989...
-116 in '06 a league record that Piniella tied
--107 in '07
---99 in '08 when they won the WS
----Cubs won 98 & in '45 (my father's freshman year in college) and '29,
-----93 in '37 finishing 2nd ('38 they won with 89 wins), and in '04
------92 in '11 finishing 2nd, and '05
-------91 in '28 and '12
--------90 in '32, (all during my grandfather's young adult life), and 1998 as WC playoff winner.

All told Cubs have 10 pennants, 14 playoff
appearances....4 being in my lifetime.

i actually don't consider Frey a good manager but his record was pretty good for two seasons, one with KC and the other with Chicago.

Club stats since June'07; 61-44 BEST in NL, against LHP starters; 14-13, and 21-10 in one run games, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN!

by Ivy Walls on Sep 24, 2007 12:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Kendall
Any word on when he might get a start soon or how he's handling being the two guy over the last week? Not that I have any doubt that he understands what Lou is doing and is keeping himself ready.

by park on Sep 24, 2007 12:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Soriano
I have but one simple request of my beloved Cubbies: Please make Soriano listen to Ryne Sandberg's Hall of Fame inductee speech. Especially the part about what you should do after you hit the big homerun for your team, and more importantly why you should do it that way.

Go Cubs!

by red ivy cubs on Sep 24, 2007 12:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Sandberg's HOF speach
It is a great one!

http://www.cubsnet.com/node/526

Aug 15 - Ted Lilly walked by the lineup card and said to nobody in particular "I can't believe I'm batting 9th again".

by mweil on Sep 24, 2007 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

MRI for Zambrano?
I just heard a rumor that Zambrano is getting an MRI. Has anyone else heard this? If so, does this mean it's not just cramps in the forearm?
"Harlem Furniture......You'll like our style!"

by Imtrejo on Sep 24, 2007 1:21 PM CDT reply actions  

MRI
"What are you talking about Willis?"
Aug 15 - Ted Lilly walked by the lineup card and said to nobody in particular "I can't believe I'm batting 9th again".

by mweil on Sep 24, 2007 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Apparently this was on ESPN 1000...
... not confirmed, not located at any other source. Just a rumor, for the moment, anyway.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Sep 24, 2007 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

And can we really rely on ESPN 1000?
I don't know how credible their reports usually are (considering how I'm deaf and can't really hear the radio all that much). So if anyone can shed some light here for me, that'd be great.
Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 24, 2007 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Generally speaking...
...the best thing to do is to take things with a grain of salt. None of these outlets, not even the White Sox Crony Radio, are outright making things up. There's way too much legal liability there.

That said, not everything that is reported is accurate -- these outlets are only as good as their sourcing. And even things that are accurate can be misleading if you don't take time to think about them; baseball teams generally discuss a lot of trades and signings, and just because a lot of them get reported and then don't actually happen doesn't mean that there wasn't something going on there.

So it's very possible that Zambrano is getting an MRI done. That doesn't tell us what it's an MRI of, what the underlying symptoms are what the results are or what that means for the remainder of the season. It's something to keep an eye on, but there's no reason to panic yet.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Sep 24, 2007 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't all
that crazy about Lou being named the new manager but I said I would give him a chance. He has won me over and has done a fantastic job. I hope this ride we are all on right now continues for weeks to come.
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 24, 2007 1:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Can we persuade Sweet Lou
to stay in Chicago over the winter to coach da Bears?

He'd take out Wrecks and give someone else the chance at QB :-)

by zevkalman on Sep 24, 2007 2:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Perfect Timing
Nov. 2 (after the Cubs win the WS), Lou takes over Da Bears and installs DeRo at QB.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 24, 2007 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tough news for the Pads
Milton Bradley wrecked his ACL during that argument with the ump, and is out for the rest of the year.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Sep 24, 2007 2:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Technically
the injury came when manager Bud Black threw Bradley to the ground to get him away from the arguement.

Today, the Padres claim that 1B umpire Mike Winters goaded Bradley into the fracas -- given the attitude umpires have today, that very well may be true. 1B Coach  Bobby Meacham claims that Winters used 'foul language' in telling Bradley to shut up. Crew chief (and the about-to-retire Bruce Froemming) said "no such language was used."
(We are going to believe an umpire who is days from the beach?)

Todd Helton, at first for the Rockies said...
"...it was a very interesting situation."

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 24, 2007 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Inquiring ears and minds would like to know
exactly what was said that made it "a very interesting situation." Meacham said that if Winters had directed what he said to Bradley to him, he would've gone after him throwing punches. Whatever was said certainly was something EXTREMELY provocative. Will we find out? I doubt it.
Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 24, 2007 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I read
that the ump called Bradley a "f**ing piece of s*t." Strong words from an ump.  

by SouthsideCub on Sep 24, 2007 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow
what publication alleges that??

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 24, 2007 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

The SD U-T
Sort of does

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/padres/20070924-9999-1s24padres.html

They write he called Bradley "a (expletive) piece of (expletive)."  I think you can fill in the blanks. I've seen it elsewhere with the expletives filled in, but I can't find it now.

If you notice though, Bobby Meacham's first move is not to restrain Bradley, it's to confront Winters.  He clearly heard the same thing Bradley did.  And from what Todd Helton is saying, it sounds like he heard it too, although all Helton is saying right now is that his report will be "interesting."

Bradley clearly overreacted, as Bradley is known to do.  But I have no doubt that Winters said what is alleged.  Winters should be suspended and if he lies about what he said, he should be fired.

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh Timmers on Sep 24, 2007 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have said this here before..
and I will say it again, some of the umps today are out of control. They feel they are part of the game not arbitors of a game. The issue is they dont fear any recourse for thier actions.

You dont see this in any other major professional sport...

That being said there are some great umpires in the league, Tim McClelland etc...

Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Sep 24, 2007 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lou and Miami
I don't think my sister's boyfriend would mind me saying this...  He's Hal Morris, who played on Lou's World Series-winning Reds team, and when Lou was hired for the Cubs, I asked Hal about playing for him.  He said he was by far his favorite manager to play for.  He said he deeply understood the game, had incredible insight into how to talk to hitters about making adjustments, was exacting and tough on his young pitchers, but never hesitated to give them props when they did a good job.  He also said he was very funny in the dugout, a prankster at times.

While I agree to a point that a manager isn't the only reason a team wins or loses, there has to be something to the idea that the leadership a manager provides (or doesn't, as the case may be) creates a context for winning or losing.  And Hal appreciated Lou's leadership very much, for whatever that's worth.

As for this Miami series coming up, I wonder what kind of shock to the Cubs' system it will be going from a rocking, electric Wrigley Field to a near-empty, characterless turquoise nightmare of a stadium.  I'm an actor, and I can definitely tell you that no matter how committed you are to a performance, the crowd presence or lack thereof can certainly make an impact on performance.  I'm hoping that ballplayers don't care about that as much, and that the Cubs are remaining as fired up and focused as possible no matter how few folks are out there watching.

This is an incredible time to be a Cubs fan for sure...

by albinokid on Sep 24, 2007 2:26 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm pretty sure
that there will be scores of Cub fans in the stands. Granted there may not be 40,000 Cub fans there, but I'm willing to guess there'll be close to 20-25,000 Cub fans there. I know there are PLENTY of Cub fans that would LOVE to see the Cubs celebrate clinching the division on the Marlins' turf. A lil payback for stealing the NLDS from us in '03. Granted it's not the same thing, but like they say, 'payback's a bitch!"
Missing Da Cubbies from NYC!

by dacubsfan76 on Sep 24, 2007 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well,
it would be nice to say the Marlins 'stole' the 2003 NLCS, but that's certainly not the case.

Alex Gonzalez's boot of a easy DP grounder, Mark Prior's inability to end the inning after that error, Dusty Baker's inaction of getting Prior the hell out of that same inning in Game 6 and Kerry Wood's inability to be a stopper in Game 7 was why the Cubs lost.

And don't mention any other reason, please. Because that other incident wasn't a reason.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 24, 2007 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Talent plays a role, obviously...
but as of now, there seems (and I am certainly, not in the dugout) to be a shift in the attitude of this team. Instead of finding ways to lose, the team is finding ways to win.

Unlike the previous manager, there are no excuses for losing. There always seemed to be an excuse. With Lou -- it's produce, or you are gone. Complain, or whine, you are gone.

A very knowledgeable source said during spring training that -- this was one of the most professionally-run camps he had seen in his many years associated with Cubs baseball. (I think you can read into that what the Baker camps might have been like) I believe we are seeing that type of professionalism, and accountability for one's play on the field -- right now.

Whether or not this translates into a World Series berth, we shall soon see.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 24, 2007 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

seems is the key word
at the beginning of the season this team found more ways to lose than any other

now the luck has turned and they're finding more ways to win than ever before

overall their record in 1 run games is now 23-22

about right where you'd expect it to be, since those games are largely the result of luck (one way or the other)

the team is exactly where many of us thought it would be prior to the season starting. Most of us thought they could win the division and most thought that the end result would be an 83-88 win team (i think thats what Al's poll results showed, not sure how to search for that)

for whatever reason because of how atrocious we were at the beginning of the year, people attribute that to things other than Lou and now attribute all the winning to the "changes" he's made

the problem with that is many of these "changes" Lou was making in spring training (with attitude around the clubhouse, etc) as mentioned in this thread spring training had a different feel, etc. All of those changes had been in place and this team kept losing and losing and losing

but then all of the sudden when the team starts performing to expectations, we cite these changes made by Lou as the reason the team turned it around

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 24, 2007 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lou has been the constant.
In the beginning of the year, the players weren't executing. Their stats in close and late situations were absolutely abysmal.

We discussed in here ad nauseam - something like .180 batting average as a team, with 6 runs scored close/late in the ~15 consecutive 1-run losses at the start of the year.

That doesn't mean that Lou's strategies were unsound. He was doing exactly the same stuff that he's doing now. It just means that we either weren't executing, or that the other guys were executing a little bit better than we were.

Lately, the guys are coming through all the time. That doesn't mean that Lou has "improved" in any way - he's been making the same sorts of substitutions all eyar.

by ClosingTime on Sep 24, 2007 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly
but at the beginning of the year we placed all the blame on the players

now we're placing much of the credit for this entire season with Lou

when in reality this season was predicted by many outlets that use statistical analysis to predict the record of teams heading into the season

Baseball Prospectus had us "I believe" at 85 wins or so

we're going to be right around that number and the prediction didn't incorporate the manager at all

which suggests if a system can be so accurate (which it is) without incorporating managers into the equation at all... then maybe they dont make that much of a difference after all

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 25, 2007 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

re: Pretty funny Lou Pinella video
Yeah, this is worth checking out. Some great lines and nice use of still images. I love the shots at LaRussa, too.
Don't tase me, bro!

by daver on Sep 24, 2007 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks
that was pretty good.
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 24, 2007 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brewer Fan Brought a Goat to Saturdays Game
in case you missed it!

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=665932

Coincidence?  They try and bring a goat to wrigley on saturday & the brewers blow a lead with 2 outs in the 10th?
 

by WaitTilNever on Sep 24, 2007 2:42 PM CDT reply actions  

haha thats great
haha I think the brewers just screwed themselves over. after all look what happened, they blew two leads and the cubs dominated both of those games against the Pirates
Len: did you know what was going on with the tamohawk chop? DeRo: Whadda you think?

by tomlambsays on Sep 24, 2007 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

forgot one
Hey Ivywalls, you forgot the '35 team.  Last Cub team to win 100....
"It's a funny old world. Man's lucky if he gets out of it alive." W.C. Fields

by KedzieKid on Sep 24, 2007 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

thanks....'35 team
How could I, my father has a ball signed by all of them....grandfather got it....from a guy in the outfit....true story
Club stats since June'07; 61-44 BEST in NL, against LHP starters; 14-13, and 21-10 in one run games, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN!

by Ivy Walls on Sep 24, 2007 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, that's helpful.
anyway, hope it comes back clear. still, i've been expecting a z issue to pop up this second half. to be honest, we could use a dominating z right now, but we've been winning a lot of games in spite of him. let's see how this plays out. surprisingly, it can't sour my mood.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 24, 2007 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whatever issue
it is, I doubt it's serious. It would be great to clinch before Saturday, so he could have 9 full days of rest before he opens the NLDS. But I have a feeling nothing short of amputation could keep him off the mound now.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Sep 24, 2007 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you trying to be a "Debbie Downer?"
But I do have a question...If Z is done then who will be the three we run out there?

Lilly, Marquis, Hill?

How about this for a hell of a made for TV Movie Special..."Kerry Wood Starts Game Four?!?"

That would be F-ing Sweet!

by whatiswrongwithlarussa on Sep 24, 2007 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Tickets...
don't the Cubs owe season ticketholders who ponied up a, uh, special FedEx package in the next couple of days? (Said delicately so as to attempt not rubbing it in.)

Anyone heard anything?

¡BLANCO!

by 08Cubs on Sep 24, 2007 5:19 PM CDT reply actions  

got mine friday
They should email you a tracking link to fedex the day they ship.  Bad design, but as long as the cubs logo is on there, I'm happy.
"We tried to set up a double play, and the shortstop doesn't play in the bullpen." Lou Piniella, July 4, 2007, discussing Young's GS

by gp1966 on Sep 24, 2007 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Funny -
About a half hour after I posted that, I got my tracking number.  Tomorrow!
¡BLANCO!

by 08Cubs on Sep 24, 2007 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

This thread is USELESS
Without Pictures!!!
There is no place like Nebraska - Go Huskers!

by sanantonecub on Sep 24, 2007 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did anyone mention the "new" sections ?
Had very little internet access while I was in Chicago so sorry if this was covered but my "Terrace" reserved seats are now
"Grandstand boxes" I kind of like it actually since they really are
the old grandstand seats. Yes they are ugly tickets but what the hell. Mine were safely in my desk drawer when I got to the office
today.

It was one hell of a weekend to be at Wrigley and my luck continued this morning at  the airport. I gladly took $300 ( airline money but as Yogi would says it is just as good as cash for me) to get off my 6AM flight and take one at 8.10. Then I went over to get wati listed on the 6.40 , got on and got in roughly 25 minutes after my original 6AM flight so $300 for a
25 minute delay. Might need that $300 for some more tickets to
Chicaog in October ( though I will probably use miles).

"It's the Cubbies. There's always a vibe. It's the greatest vibe in baseball." Greg Maddux on Cub fan's optimism even after the 06 debacle.

by jessica on Sep 24, 2007 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

what
do you think of the a-rod player/owner of the cubs rumors?? i didnt think players can own part of a team but im not for sure...but him playing on this team(as his people are saying) sounds real good.
put soriano in the 5-hole please!!!!

by tbizzle83 on Sep 24, 2007 5:40 PM CDT reply actions  

I think it's crap
It tampering and if any prospective owner did this, they'd never be approved, and every candidate knows that.  So does Boras.  

This is a plant story. The Yankees have decided the biggest threat they have to losing Rodriguez (and I'm not sure this is true) is for a new Cub owner to come in and offer him the moon. So they launch a pre-emptive strike--make up a story that the Cubs are already tampering with Rodriguez, which will make it almost impossible for the Cubs to sign him, because A-Rod will have to sign any new contract in the period after the sale is announced but before it is approved.  Thus, a new owner can't approve an A-Rod contract without bringing down tampering accusations.

It's a Yankee lie.  And it stinks.  But you will never hear the NY media ever suggesting that the Yankees could have planted the story.  

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh Timmers on Sep 24, 2007 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

re: i think it's crap...
...with all due respect josh, your post may be one of the most fantastic allegations i've ever heard.

what you're failing to realize is this: if a-rod opts out of his contract and the yankees are desirous of re-signing him, they will!

it's that simple!

they certainly do not need to be reduced to some piss-ant story-planting organization. contrary to popular belief, they are a professionally operated organization with integrity.

"If you'da been thinkin you wouldn't 'a thought that." ~~ "Squints" Palledorous

by rm463 on Sep 24, 2007 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Yankees will lose the $15 million...
...in annual compensation from the Rangers if A-Rod opts out. Therefore, they do not want him to opt out. The Yankees as an organization realize that they cannot sustain their salary levels, which is why Cashman is moving to a rebuilding phase of sorts. Paying A-Rod a raise on top of losing the Texas money does not exactly help their absurdly ballooning payroll.
FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Sep 24, 2007 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

no kidding...
...the yankees don't want a-rod to opt-out?

beyond the obvious, my point was this: clearly, the yankees have no control as to whether a-rod opts-out or not, but what they do have control is whether they resign him if he exercises that option. if it is their desire for a-rod to remain a yankee, and money is the determining factor, make no mistake, a-rod will be a yankee!

incidentally, how do you know what the yankees realize as an organization? do not underestimate the resolve or capital of that organization. remember, they're about to open a $1+ billion stadium with luxury suites that will be unmatched. do you think  those'll generate a little 'scarole?  

"If you'da been thinkin you wouldn't 'a thought that." ~~ "Squints" Palledorous

by rm463 on Sep 24, 2007 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

They have no control?
Really?

Ok, if we go ahead and assume that A-Rod will be paid $30 million a year -- and that's what his agent says will be the asking price -- there is a limited universe of teams that can afford that. There are some teams in baseball where A-Rod's salary reflects total payroll comitted to on-field operations. So, A-Rod is only going to opt out if there is interest in signing him from teams of means.

Therefore, your supporting point -- that the Yankees have no leverage to keep A-Rod from opting out -- is only true if you assume the main point -- that the Yankees wouldn't attempt to reduce the competition for his services by accusing other teams of tampering and scaring them away -- is already true.

Circular arguements are so rarely convincing.

As for how I know what the Yankees realize as an organization?

I read.

They're the New York Freakin' Yankees. They have an entire phalanx of reporters devoted to writing about them, and the national baseball press aside. And Brian Cashman, the man who makes personnell decisions for the Yankees, talks to these reporters. Then they write about it, and through the miracle of the Internet I'm able to read more about the Yankees and their front office than anyone would conceivably want to. It's not that hard.

FREE CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

by cwyers on Sep 25, 2007 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

for the record...
it is my belief that your assumptions are devoid of merit.  you are making a strong accusation when you claim that the yankees have planted a story, to "scare off any competition" in the potential signing of a-rod.

if any team, with the financial means, were inclined to attempt to sign a-rod, they certainly wouldn't be scared away from the scenario you allege.

"If you'da been thinkin you wouldn't 'a thought that." ~~ "Squints" Palledorous

by rm463 on Sep 25, 2007 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

What he said
The Yankees lose something like 38 million dollars from Texas if ARod opts out.

Now you need to ask?  Who is the source of this article?

Boras?  Fat chance.  If the story were true, it would get him banned from baseball.  Why would he confess to that?

The unnamed owner?  Same thing.

So who is the source?  It's possible that the author completely made it up.  But it's a New York writer.  Boras is based in Southern California.  The Cubs are in Chicago.  Who do you think it's most likely the New York writer was using as his source?

Now it may not have been a calculated plan--it could have just been some Yankee flunky shooting his mouth off.  But leakers always have an agenda--and the entity that gains the most by this leak is the Yankees.

I'm open to other possibilities if you can think of who else who would have an agenda to plant such a story.  But the most likely source is the Yankees.

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh Timmers on Sep 24, 2007 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

josh, i stand by...
...my original claim, your "conspiracy theory" is borderline delusional.
"If you'da been thinkin you wouldn't 'a thought that." ~~ "Squints" Palledorous

by rm463 on Sep 24, 2007 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Al,
if you don't mind my asking, are you sitting in the same seats for the playoffs?  I hear bleacher season ticket holders get to choose their seats for postseason.
In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Sep 24, 2007 5:59 PM CDT reply actions  

That's correct.
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Sep 25, 2007 4:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

If the Brewers can't win today
They won't win again this year.

Look at this Cardinal lineup

Eckstein
Ankiel
Taguchi
Ludwick
Cairo
Miles
Bennett
Wainwright
Ryan

Batting Wainwright eighth?  Hell, LaRussa should be batting Wainwright fifth!

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh Timmers on Sep 24, 2007 6:32 PM CDT reply actions  

lmao
taguchi batting 3rd yea if they dont win they just need to hand the division title to us tomarrow. where edmonds is he shelved for the year
put soriano in the 5-hole please!!!!

by tbizzle83 on Sep 24, 2007 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ladies and gentlemen,
the defending World Champion Cardinals.

phat

by phatass on Sep 24, 2007 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gameday has Pujols in the lineup
although it could be wrong.
I survived VWR 2007

by akcubfan on Sep 24, 2007 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

he
is done for the year isnt he??
put soriano in the 5-hole please!!!!

by tbizzle83 on Sep 24, 2007 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like a late change
Yahoo has what I wrote.

Yup, the telecast just confirmed it.  Late change, Pujols will play.

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh Timmers on Sep 24, 2007 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go Albert!
(Guiltily looks down and crosses self.)
¡BLANCO!

by 08Cubs on Sep 24, 2007 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

cards aren't helping us at all early on here.
AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike @ Bleed Cubbie Blue on Sep 24, 2007 7:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Cards...
...are playing Pujols, who can barely WALK right now, and a bunch of injury replacements.

There's not much they can do with what they have available.

by NTNgod on Sep 24, 2007 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

ugh
I could see the Brewers sweeping this series...Cards look awful.

by UptownFreeRadio on Sep 24, 2007 7:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Brewers do their worst
when they have a 3+ run lead, right?

by ChipSet on Sep 24, 2007 8:01 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't have the stats
but I'll bet most of their 7-run leads have held up.

by ChipSet on Sep 24, 2007 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

im suprised the cards even showed up tonight
anyone know if the brewers will have to face peavy this weekend, hes scheduled to pitch on wednesday against the giants but i wouldnt be suprised to see bud black move him back to face the brewers rather than the giants
Bring back the damn cowbell!

by CubsBall2202 on Sep 24, 2007 8:11 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm Mr. Glass Half Empty
But I don't think there's anyway the Cubs don't win the division.

Nice work by the men in blue this year.  April 29th was my official "it's over" date.

Thank you for proving me wrong.

Now win the Series.

by Peoria Matt on Sep 24, 2007 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Loud, sustained applause!
n/t
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Sep 25, 2007 4:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

i cant believe
you just said " I don't think there's anyway the Cubs don't win the division."

who are you? Curt freaking Gowdy!

why on earth would you say something like this!!!!!!!!!!!

by DartmouthCubsFan on Sep 25, 2007 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

LaRussa leaves in Wainwright
after an error, three straight hits and no outs.  What a jerkoff.  Clearly laying down to screw us.  Now it's 6-2.  Damn, the Cardinals suck.

by FortLauderdaleCubs on Sep 24, 2007 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Wainwright took a beating--LaRussa is such a jerk
Wainer gave up 9 runs.  Good job, LaRussa.  That's the way to install confidence in your pitching staff.

by zevkalman on Sep 24, 2007 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

And still, that really nice guy LaRussa
leaves Wainwright in.  It's now 9-2 with only two outs.  What a piece of work you are, Tony.  Is he drinking in the dugout? If the Cards aren't going to  seriously play, why don't they forfeit the rest of their crappy season?

by FortLauderdaleCubs on Sep 24, 2007 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's kinda lame to blame larussa
he really has no options. his team blows. i don't think he has a better option. the brewers are a MUCH better team. odds favor a brewers sweep.

but who cares? we still have a 3 games lead with 6 left to play. as lou has said repeatedly this year - win series' and good things will happen. if we go 4-2 in the last 6 we will win the division.

by anormal on Sep 24, 2007 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

right now, the cardinals are the worst team
in baseball, no doubt about it. i don't think they could beat peoria.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 24, 2007 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

well, it certainly appears the brewers are
going to have their way with the cardinals. really, i think the brewers are only going to lose one more game this year; the padres aren't looking very good right now, and the brewers will be rolling by thursday.

let's win both series to close out the year.

"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 24, 2007 8:56 PM CDT reply actions  

I think they'll split with the Pads
They still have something for which to play.

Don't count out Looper stealing one from the Crew tomorrow.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 24, 2007 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

if the cardinals win, i will be completely shocked
it could happen, but i'd be shocked. i watched the game tonight. the cardinals have very few players left: molina now out; pujols can't move; edmonds out. it's really ankiel, miles, and then a bunch of other guys. and, when those two are your names in the lineup, you're not going to win very many games.  

larussa doesn't even look like he cares. and that surprises me. he just sits on the bench with his legs crossed. the fire is out.

i hope the padres get a split. what i'd really love to see is a cubs win and a brewers loss tomorrow. that would be sweet.

"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 24, 2007 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

You mean you were actually
expecting something from the Cardinals?

I watched that 18-1 loss in person. (At least until it was 7-0)

That is a gutless punk organization led by a scumbag hypocrite and populated by fakers and tankers like Pujols and Edmonds and Rolen, who should be ashamed to look at himself in the mirror each morning.

We cannot count on anything from St. Louis.

by lancaster99 on Sep 24, 2007 9:36 PM CDT reply actions  

hypocrite and populated by fakers and tankers
Geez...what do you REALLY think?    :-) LOL
"The decline of society is rampant...Cubs winning the WS in '07 will make everything right again."

by Bluelou on Sep 24, 2007 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I assume
that im the only one holds still holds any fear of not winning the central then?

It seems all and sundry see it as a foregone conclusion....I'll only celebrate once its a lock.
Until then i'll remain a little nervous.

"Drink,Drugs and shagging models...the rest I wasted." George Best on where his millions went

by Aussie Cub on Sep 24, 2007 10:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Let me
remind you guys that this is not over until a cubs pitcher records the final out in the world series or a cubs player gets a walk off hit to clinch the WS im just praying the make the playoffs, i know its a 3 game lead but im still a little skeptical
Len: did you know what was going on with the tamohawk chop? DeRo: Whadda you think?

by tomlambsays on Sep 24, 2007 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm not sure nervous even covers it.
i expect something bad to happen. but, i do think lou will get the job done. obviously, tomorrow's game is huge.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 24, 2007 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

we need
a distraction from this huge brewers win over the cards, that distraction is cubs baseball and a cubs win tomorrow in Miami.
Len: did you know what was going on with the tamohawk chop? DeRo: Whadda you think?

by tomlambsays on Sep 24, 2007 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will cease being nervous only when
that magic number is zero.

phat

by phatass on Sep 24, 2007 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

me too
i'll relax when that happens, hopefully on wednesday it will be that number and there will be an x right next to the chicago in the nl central meaning they have clinched
Len: did you know what was going on with the tamohawk chop? DeRo: Whadda you think?

by tomlambsays on Sep 24, 2007 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brewers thrash Cards 13-5 (final)
This thing ain't over till it's over. They have such a good home record and the Marlins swept us... ...I am hopeful but like Aussie Cub says I "remain a little nervous"
If the Cubs were an international soccer team they'd be called Scotland.

by mrtobby on Sep 24, 2007 10:24 PM CDT reply actions  

last week
i think the brewers will lose at least 1 and the cubs will go atleast .500 on this upcoming road trip in FLA and CIN
Len: did you know what was going on with the tamohawk chop? DeRo: Whadda you think?

by tomlambsays on Sep 24, 2007 10:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Cubs have won a lot of series now
...and if they win these next two -- going 4-2 -- it doesn't matter if the Brewers go 7-0 this week.

Just gotta keep focused, and good things will happen.

by ChipSet on Sep 24, 2007 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

In the back of my mind
......somehow I think Monroe is going to make a big payoff contribution this week..... just thinking...

by James031 on Sep 24, 2007 11:16 PM CDT reply actions  

I suspect that may happen too.
That's just my sentimental side coming through. But that's just how these things should work out, don't you think?

phat

by phatass on Sep 25, 2007 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

is it true
that some brewers fan brought a goat to wrigley on saturday?
Len: did you know what was going on with the tamohawk chop? DeRo: Whadda you think?

by tomlambsays on Sep 24, 2007 11:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes.
Look up higher in the comments in this thread for a picture.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Sep 25, 2007 4:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

for anyone that cares
vince young officially kept the madden curse going by getting injured
Len: did you know what was going on with the tamohawk chop? DeRo: Whadda you think?

by tomlambsays on Sep 24, 2007 11:54 PM CDT reply actions  

"dream on"
anyone else at the concert tonight at allstate?

it was great.

by Rezze21 on Sep 25, 2007 12:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Just caught Al
your opinion of the Angels in ST.

I only have seen them on TV during ST, and a couple games during the season, but I'd have to agree with you on being a very strong team.

Nice offense, young & speedy athletes, terrific staff, great bullpen.

And, Vlad.

It is SEPTEMBER, and we're STILL IN IT! YES!

by TheEman on Sep 25, 2007 2:52 PM CDT reply actions  

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