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Open Thread: Cubs vs. Marlins, Wednesday 9/26, 6:05 CT

Yelloncard_tiny by Al on in Game Threads

Four years and two days ago, a Cubs pitcher, much-maligned over the course of the 2003 season, was sent out to the mound on a Wednesday evening to throw in a road game that the Cubs desperately needed to win to solidify their tenuous hold on the Central division lead.

Shawn Estes responded with a four-hit shutout of the Reds, his best game of the 2003 season.

Jason Marquis, we need the very same thing from you this night. Go get 'em!

 Today's Starting Pitchers
Jason Marquis
 J. Marquis
Cubs		 vs. Daniel Barone
 D. Barone
Marlins
12-8 W-L 1-3
4.35 ERA 5.30
103 SO 17
73 BB 17
22 HR 10
vs. Fla -- vs. Cubs
Marquis is 4-4, 6.85 in 16 appearances (nine starts) lifetime vs. Florida and got hit pretty hard the only time he's faced them this year, on May 29 at Wrigley Field. What more can be said? He's simply got to get past those bad numbers and throw well tonight.

Daniel Barone is yet another young pitcher who the Cubs have never faced. Usually, that's the kiss of death -- but this kid has walked seventeen and given up ten home runs in only 37.1 innings this season. I say the Cub bats light him up early and often. Incidentally, he is the grandson of Dick Barone, who had a 3-game cuppa coffee with the 1960 Pirates.

Today's cable only game is on EI; also check today's Mediacenter link.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2006 version)

MLB.com Gameday for the Brewers/Cardinals game (7:05 CT start)

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Go Cubs!!
Let's get a win and make that magic number a little smaller.
If the Cubs were an international soccer team they'd be called Scotland.

by mrtobby on Sep 26, 2007 3:45 PM CDT   0 recs

Something to make us feel better
With 5 games left, the Brewers magic number is 8.

I like our number more.

Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Sep 26, 2007 4:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Different perspective
thanks for that
Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Sep 26, 2007 5:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

So a win tonight and Brewers win
Cubs magic number is 3 and Brewers is 7 with 5 games remaining.

8 means that the Brewers need 5 wins and 3 losses, or 4 wins and 4 losses or 3 wins and 5 losses

Club stats since June'07; 61-45 BEST in NL, against LHP starters; 14-14, and 21-10 in one run games, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN!

by Ivy Walls on Sep 26, 2007 5:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Go Cubs!
Give us a little breather with a decisive win! Maybe some crooked numbers for the Brewers to stare at as they warm up to play and eventually lose! Magic number, take THAT!

by lapetino on Sep 26, 2007 3:48 PM CDT   0 recs

The forecast for the stadium area:
Scattered light to moderate showers will continue to affect the eastern portion of the South Florida peninsula through 6 PM EDT. This activity will be most widespread across eastern Broward and northeastern Miami-Dade counties. Wind gusts to 30 mph and torrential downpours...with rainfall rates up to one quarter of an inch per hour...can be expected with the strongest showers as they move northwestward at 15 to 20 mph.

Tonight: Partly cloudy. Scattered showers and thunderstorms. Lows in the mid 70s. East winds 5 mph becoming northwest after midnight. Chance of rain 50 percent.

I assume in Florida they'd have one of them fancy field-drainage systems that people were discussing in the "batting uphill" thread - let's hope so.

Anyway, it sounds like they should be able to get something in tonight, though delays might be a possibility.

Some crooked numbers early for Los Cubbies, pleeeeeeeease!

by CaughtInTheVines on Sep 26, 2007 3:48 PM CDT   0 recs

Go Cubs
I'll try to keep my negativity down :-)
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 26, 2007 3:50 PM CDT   0 recs

Need 6 strong from Jason
If Jason can give them 3 runs or less, we should be alright. If he gets lit up, I'll have to get lit up so that I can sleep tonight. Go cards.

by SouthsideCub on Sep 26, 2007 3:51 PM CDT   0 recs

Would love to see
the magic number at 2 by 10:00 pm CST!
This is Harry Carray, goodbye from Wrigley Field and So Long Everybody.

by mrcubsfan on Sep 26, 2007 3:55 PM CDT   0 recs

I'll take the number being 3 with 4 remaining
Club stats since June'07; 61-45 BEST in NL, against LHP starters; 14-14, and 21-10 in one run games, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN!

by Ivy Walls on Sep 26, 2007 5:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I live in Florida
tonights game from what I hear is not going to be a nice nite at the ballpark.  Its September and they are in south florida, think one of those scenes from Any Given Sunday when Jamie Fox can hardly see the other player's hopefully they miss it.  

I live near Tampa, and that doesnt mean much but its rained here most of the day.  Hope the Cubbies keep it away and get a big one tonight.  Check the wind, if the wind is blowing from the south or the east there is a good chance there will be alot of rain invovled in this one.

Good post Al, short and to the point thats all that needed to be said.

by Les Lancaster on Sep 26, 2007 3:58 PM CDT   0 recs

CUBS
Light em up
Hey.....Cubs win!!!

by Hammer on Sep 26, 2007 4:01 PM CDT   0 recs

Does anybody know...
How much it would cost me to get extra innings today for the rest of the season? I figure they won't charge a full half season for the 6 games left... but then again they might.
GREAT SUCCESS!!!

by Chitown Mojo on Sep 26, 2007 4:02 PM CDT   0 recs

mlb.tv
I remember seeing a banner ad somewhere that mlb.tv was free for the last 5 games of the year, or something to that effect.  Might be worth looking into rather than paying for EI...
It's hard to be humble when you're number one.

by JF8 on Sep 26, 2007 4:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I Think We Have...
... 5 games left now.  I just tried watching the TEX-LAA game.  I was prompted to purchase a package.

by initram on Sep 26, 2007 4:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Free trial
I think they usually offer a five-day free trial....so....

by CaughtInTheVines on Sep 26, 2007 4:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This is
probably what I saw.  Sorry for the misinfo!
It's hard to be humble when you're number one.

by JF8 on Sep 26, 2007 4:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

They usually
go to this site:
http://www.indemand.com/sports/mlb/packageInfo/packageInfo.jsp

It says "Order today for s special low price".  I am guessing they will charge you $75 instead of the $150.  You can also do MLB.tv which works wonderful when you are in a pinch.

by 1060 W Addison on Sep 26, 2007 4:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

mlb.tv
Pretty sure its $7.95 for the rest of the year.
Mizzou Tigers #20 in the nation. Chase Daniel for Heisman!

by nji232 on Sep 26, 2007 4:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

blackouts?
but won't they just blackout the games for us in Chicago?

by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2007 4:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

YES
"The game is always healthier when the Cubs are good, and in a week they have made themselves a whole lot better."

by BillHoldenFan on Sep 26, 2007 4:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

pete's sake...
you'd think in a new, internet world....

Oh, well.  I'ma getting Dish network on Saturday anyway, so I'll only miss a few games (as in, I'll listen on the radio).

by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2007 4:52 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Dish Net
does not participate in the Extra Innings package, FYI. Only DirecTV does. So, you'd be out of luck next season -- maybe you want to reconsider satellite providers

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 26, 2007 5:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

But all playoff games are on TBS...
for whatever that's worth.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 26, 2007 5:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

WHAT NO PICTURE
with your post, thats gotta be a first!!!
"I never said most of the things I said" ~ Yogi Berra

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 26, 2007 5:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

oh, there was a time
when he would only post text, ah those were the days!

Then he started posting pictures...

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Sep 26, 2007 5:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL
leave it to me not to scroll down before posting, Cuz would ya know it, there a picture stares back at me. One of his weakest one, by the way!
"I never said most of the things I said" ~ Yogi Berra

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 26, 2007 6:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Who you calln' weak?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 26, 2007 6:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You've been warned
on the photos.

KNOCK THEM OFF!

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh77 on Sep 26, 2007 6:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ummm....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 26, 2007 7:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah...the good ole' days.
I seems like it was only 2 months ago.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 26, 2007 6:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

ah yes...
the day the message board died and was reincarnated as Die Hard Cubs Fun without the photo shopping.

Just giving you a hard time though, I don't particularly mind the pictures, and actually do enjoy Die Hard Cubs Fun, to bad its defunct (sp?).

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Sep 26, 2007 6:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

as far as I know
I can watch every game if I have dish, because I can get the Comcast Sports Network.

Extra Innings is... what, exactly?

by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2007 7:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Where do you live? In the Chicago market?
Extra Innings is the MLB pay package that delivers out-of-market games to subscribers of most (but not all) cable customers in America, and DirecTV Subscribers. Dish Network did not participate this season, when a new contract was hammered out between InDemand (the supplier) and MLB. DirecTV did sign up.

The various local channels are not offered to most satellite packages. If they are -- the games may be blacked out to protect this paid coverage.

I think most of us here would have switched to satellite if it allowed us to cherry-pick Comcast Sports Chicago. (Those of us OUTSIDE Chicago.)

For example, for tonight's game -- the carrier was FSN Florida. For the majority of the games this season, the Cubs/Comcast telecast was supplied. Tonight, it was not featured on Extra Innings. This coverage fills in the non-WGN games, about 60 to 70. So, I will see 140+ Cubs games -- losing some to Fox blackouts. Without this package, I'd only see 70-something games on WGN and the rest on other networks.

I urge you to double check before you install. Satellite operators can get their facts...."wrong," in an effort to get you to buy.

Here's what I buy from Time Warner Cable in SD:

http://indemand.com/sports/mlb/index.jsp

Be very, very sure of what you are buying. Don't want you to get tricked into thinking you have the channels you need. I don't trust Dish net reps to know what they are talking about.

If you want to chat more, ask Al for my E-Mail.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 26, 2007 9:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

My take
this is the biggest game of the year. Can not let the Brewers get within one game.
 Brewers will light up the Cards tonight with Thompson on the hill.
 Lets get them Cubs, get the lead early on this rookie pitcher.
 Get us into the 7th Jason!!

by Johnny Callison was a Cub on Sep 26, 2007 4:04 PM CDT   0 recs

Interesting thought....
....what does happen if we get rained out tonight? Play two tomorrow? What if they can't get in two tomorrow because of weather?

This could get interesting....let's hope the Cards can salvage some dignity and stomp the Brewers to get that magic number down to 3, regardless....

by Chadnudj on Sep 26, 2007 4:07 PM CDT   0 recs

They'd have to play two tomorrow.
If they can't get ANY baseball in over the next two days, the games would be postponed and played, if necessary, on Monday.

What a mess THAT would make.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Sep 26, 2007 4:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd much rather have that than
a doubleheader tomorrow.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 26, 2007 4:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Rain Delays @ Dolphin...
Boers and Bernstein mentioned that there have been 16 delays this year and only a couple rainouts in the last few years. The drainage system should allow us to get this game in.

by mrsmiff on Sep 26, 2007 4:49 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

OK if the Cubs are going to win it
This is the type of game they need to win.  Barone should be gone early.  You know the Brewers will do the same to Thompson.    

by rlpete on Sep 26, 2007 4:13 PM CDT   0 recs

Marquis bad numbers...
...plus bad weather...plus the Brewers waltzing into an easy win tonight...it can only mean one thing:

The Cubs shall triumph!!!

Don't tase me, bro!

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 26, 2007 4:17 PM CDT   0 recs

yesterday
No not the Beatles song.

Yesterday was our little pillow....nobody is quite ready to jump out any high rise windows just yet but that's it. Today we win and take care of our business.

"We're going to turn this team around 360 degrees." -Jason Kidd

by tony412 on Sep 26, 2007 4:19 PM CDT   0 recs

We need Jason to be a a real...
"commander in chief" on the mound tonight!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Sep 26, 2007 4:28 PM CDT   0 recs

I feel pretty, oh so pretty,
I feel pretty and witty and gay!

by whatiswrongwithlarussa on Sep 26, 2007 5:49 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

lineup...
soriano, lf
theriot, ss
lee, 1b
floyd, rf
ramirez, 3b
derosa, 2b
jones, cf
kendall, c
marquis, p

by seang03 on Sep 26, 2007 4:29 PM CDT   0 recs

hopefully,
the riot and kendall are at their peskiest best and floyd brings the bullet line drives.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 26, 2007 4:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

bring us a win marquis.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 26, 2007 4:30 PM CDT   0 recs

Am i the only one having problems
wishing the card to win??? i know i want the cubs to get to the playoffs as soon as they can, but man, i sure hate those cards

by Alfonso on Sep 26, 2007 4:31 PM CDT   0 recs

no need to worry
since the Cardinals will finish under .500 anyway..its not like that are trying to get to .500 or a winning season now.
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 26, 2007 4:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Are you kidding?
Why would you not want the Cards to win? Do you really hate them that much where you'd rather have the team 2 games back of the Cubs not lose any ground? That's just silly. If you're a real Cubs fan, you want the Cardinals to win tonight.

by bergs55 on Sep 26, 2007 4:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hate them next week.
For now you want them to win.
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 26, 2007 4:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

go ahead and hate them.
they are so bad, the games aren't even close. i would just like to see them have a chance to win the game. they are getting destroyed up there. it would take a miracle for the cardinals to win this game.  
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 26, 2007 4:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

re: Am i the only one having problems
Think of it this way: A Cards win is really a Cards loss, because it only further propels the Cubs toward conquering the division and ensuring the utter humiliation of last season's "World Champions."
Don't tase me, bro!

by dat cubfan daver on Sep 26, 2007 4:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Cardinals WS Champions of 2006
sure looks like they want to definately repeat, huh?
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 26, 2007 4:49 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm not sure
people comprehend just how bad the Cardinals are right now. That team is decimated; look at their lineup, and also the fact that their pitching is the same horrid mess it's been all season. They honestly have no chance against the Brewers in that park. But root for them tonight, and take solace in the fact that they are going to suck for many years to come.
Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Sep 26, 2007 5:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well I guess you have to give La Russa
some credit for having that good of a record but the Cardinals are essentially what the Cubs were in 2005. They depended on a pitcher to carry their team and he got injured (you could make the case for two Cubs pitchers) and they really have only two players at best to carry that offense (Pujols and maybe Edmonds) (Lee and Ramirez)
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 26, 2007 5:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

and right now
pujols can't even walk and edmonds just isn't very good, at least not consistently.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 26, 2007 5:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

and thus of course
you have the 2006 Cubs, injured//inconsistent stars and really only ONE good starting pitcher
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 26, 2007 5:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

LET'S DO THIS!!!!!!
Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 26, 2007 4:36 PM CDT   0 recs

Yes, you are the only one...
I have no problem wanting Albert to knock 2-3 out of the yard tonight and for Prince to be sidelined with a severe hangnail.

by Def Kenny T on Sep 26, 2007 4:38 PM CDT   0 recs

if the Cubs feel any
of the intensity, adrenaline, urgency that I'm feeling right now they'll go out tonight and put up football numbers. You really have to be in good health to cheer for this team.
"We're going to turn this team around 360 degrees." -Jason Kidd

by tony412 on Sep 26, 2007 4:40 PM CDT   0 recs

how bout we just run the table?
call out apollo.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 26, 2007 4:42 PM CDT   0 recs

ok, so
this is the time, this is the place.  This is OUR year!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 26, 2007 4:51 PM CDT   0 recs

As if we aren't enough pumped up already
Showtime Baby!!!!
"We're going to turn this team around 360 degrees." -Jason Kidd

by tony412 on Sep 26, 2007 4:57 PM CDT   0 recs

Thanks now im jacked for the Game!
"I never said most of the things I said" ~ Yogi Berra

by BigZ 4 Cy on Sep 26, 2007 5:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

i have a good feeling tonight
doesnt marquis have a pretty solid record in games he pitches after a cubs loss?
Bring back the damn cowbell!

by CubsBall2202 on Sep 26, 2007 5:01 PM CDT   0 recs

Jason Marquis
I am looking forward to seeing him bring his A game tonight.
AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike on Sep 26, 2007 5:04 PM CDT   0 recs

we need an offensive explosion.
i'd like to see about 20 hits.
"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off."--Woody Guthrie

by buckmulligan on Sep 26, 2007 5:05 PM CDT   0 recs

and all will be home runs
 
Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 26, 2007 5:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Why is Barone's background black?
I don't like it.  Kind of scary.  I have a bad feeling about this game.

: )

by IllinoisCubs on Sep 26, 2007 5:11 PM CDT   0 recs

I sometimes think
I'm not cut out for this whole diehard fan thing. But, it's too late to go back now.

So let's just go out there and deep six this lousy, unloved team already! Go Cubs!

by ElvisCole on Sep 26, 2007 5:18 PM CDT   0 recs

What happened to the S and H? ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Sep 26, 2007 7:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

More Cards injuries
Ryan Franklin (P)  STL  9/26/2007
Franklin has a tired arm, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports. After posting an ERA below 2.00 and a WHIP below 1.00 in each of the first four months, Franklin has fallen back to earth in the last two. Since the beginning of August, he's given up 27 hits and 16 runs in just 23 innings for a 6.26 ERA and 1.39 WHIP.

Russ Springer (P)  STL  9/26/2007
Springer was unavailable Tuesday with muscle spasms in his shoulder, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports. Springer is having the best year of his career, but he's been overworked. He reached a career-high in appearances for the third year in a row, and the 64 innings pitched is his most in over a decade.

Troy Percival (P)  STL  9/26/2007
Percival was unavailable Tuesday with a sore elbow, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports. The Cardinals may do the prudent thing and shut him down, as they may want him to be a key member of the bullpen again next year.

So basically the three decent setup guys in their bullpen are all questionable for today's game.  Fantastic!

In addition, Ankiel was out of the lineup last night because of a bruised foot.  Apparently the only reason Edmonds started last night was because Ankiel was out, so I doubt we see the two of them on the field together.  In addition LaRussa wants Eckstein to finish the year with a .300 average even if that means having him sit out.  Eckstein is at .307 so I believe he'll play tonight, but can we have the Iowa Cubs or any other Triple-A team minus the Cards Triple-A team play the Brewers tonight?  I like their chances better.  Some of the Card injuries have been freak accidents (Encarnacion), but at some point if more than half or your regulars are hurting, you have to wonder how much the training staff is to blame.

by IllinoisCubs on Sep 26, 2007 5:21 PM CDT   0 recs

After
Seeing this crap on Brew Crew Ball.  I found a shirt that would make my happier to see around town.

by kilo14 on Sep 26, 2007 5:28 PM CDT