Open Thread: Cubs vs. Reds, Sunday 9/30, 12:15 CT

by Al Yellon on Sep 30, 2007 9:20 AM CDT in Game Threads

CINCINNATI -- This is the thirty-ninth year of divisional play. The Cubs played 25 years in the old NL East and this is their 14th season in the NL Central. In all that time, only once (the division title year of 1989) did they have a winning record against all the other teams in their own division.

If they win today, they'll accomplish that feat again.

So that's something to shoot for, even though Lou Piniella says the regulars may not play again today:

"It doesn't really mean anything right now except an extra at-bat or two," Cubs manager Lou Piniella said. "I think it's more important to rest them than to play them."

There is, as I noted in yesterday's recap, one thing that one regular can shoot for -- if Mark DeRosa plays and can go 4-for-4, he'd finish the year hitting .300. He's already had two 5-for-5 games against the Reds this year, so such a day isn't impossible for DeRo.

Here's the scoop on the Cubs' possible first-round opponents -- and that's right, with one day to go in the regular season, the Cubs could still play any of three (Diamondbacks, Phillies or Mets).

If San Diego wins their game at Milwaukee today, they are the wild card winner and the Cubs would play the Diamondbacks. Period. However, if SD loses and Colorado beats Arizona, they'd be tied. That would result in a SD-Colorado playoff -- but ONLY if the Phillies and Mets BOTH lose. There are other two-team playoff scenarios, and here's a good rundown of what would happen if three or four teams tie after today's games.

Today's Starting Pitchers


T. Lilly Cubs	vs.	H. Bailey Reds


15-8	W-L	3-2
3.86	ERA	5.67
173	SO	23
55	BB	24
28	HR	2
vs. Cin	--	vs. Cubs

According to this article, Ted Lilly won't throw more than about 40 pitches today, which probably wouldn't get him enough innings to earn his sixteenth win. If he does throw five innings and qualifies for a win, that'd be the most wins by a Cub lefthander since 1970, when Kenny Holtzman won 17.

"Homer" is a really bad name for a pitcher, wouldn't you say? (It's not his true given name, either; it's David Dewitt Bailey.) Bailey is one of the Reds' best pitching prospects; he is only 21 years old and has struggled with control (24 walks in 39.2 IP). This will be his first career start against the Cubs.

Site notes: I have added the 2007 MLB postseason schedule to the right sidebar under "Stat Corner". Also, since I'll be leaving right after the game to drive back to Chicago, probably not arriving till late evening, today's recap may be delayed till tomorrow morning.

Today's game is cable-only. Well, get used to it, since that'll be the case for all the Division Series games, too. Here is today's Mediacenter link.

MLB.com Gameday (2007 version)

MLB.com Gameday (2006 version)

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Regardless, rooting for SD win today

Even though the 4 team scramble would be fun to watch and sort out rooting for SD to win and NY and Philly to win for one play-in....

Even though out here in CO I am seeing them one game short and removing the hottest team in September....also I think the Rockies will be dealing this winter for pitchers and willing to trade Hawpe with their plethera of other big young hitters available.

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Sep 30, 2007 9:27 AM CDT reply actions

Time of Wednesday's Game

I know it's too early to know anything for sure, but if the Padres clinch today ensuring the Cubs play the D'Backs, I'm wondering what time the Wednesday and Thursday games will likely be played. With the Red Sox playing on Wednesday and the Yankees opening on Thursday I figure those two games will get the prime-time slots. And from my recollections there are often West Coast games that start at 9pm Central in the playoffs. But there could also be afternoon games in Phoenix that start at around 3pm in Chicago. Obviously we'll just have to wait and see, but it seems as if we're likely looking at late afternoon or late night games on Wednesday and Thursday.

by ms9av on Sep 30, 2007 9:54 AM CDT reply actions

Go Padres! Go Phils!

I want nothing to do with the Mets in the postseason...

Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.

by JB 23 on Sep 30, 2007 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions

I don't know

the Phillies scare the daylights out of me.

I would not fight Jason Kendall.

by TCobb1911 on Sep 30, 2007 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions

Could someone explain to me...

...why the Phillies are feared around here?

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by cwyers on Sep 30, 2007 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions

Because

their lineup (and ballpark) has the ability to destroy a pitching staff.

Their pitching is also starting to come around, at least in the bullpen and Cole Hamels as a starter. Romero/Gordon/Myers has been effective out of the pen for the last month or so.

Even if you beat them, your bullpen might be so destroyed you'd have nothing left for the next series.

Their starting pitching beyond Hamels is terrible, but with their lineup, one starter might be all they need.

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh Timmers on Sep 30, 2007 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions

See, that's exactly why...

...I think the Phillies would match up nicely against us. Ok, so they have the most potent lineup in the National League. But that tends to matter less in the postseason than having a good starting rotation, which is exactly what the Cubs are fielding. And about the furthest thing from what the Phillies have. The Phillies have allowed 50 more runs than the Nationals have this season.

The Cubs have the second-best pitching in the NL according to runs allowed, and they're second to the Padres -- who benefit greatly from Petco. I think the Phillies are just the sort of team the Cubs can have their way with.

Now, mind you, anything can happen in a short series. And all of the teams we're talking about facing in the playoffs are good ball clubs, and all of them can win games. So I don't want to come off too dismissive here. But I think the Phillies are a favorable matchup for the Cubs.

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by cwyers on Sep 30, 2007 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions

I completely agree...

...this is why I would rather face the Phillies or Mets than the Padres or D-Backs. The former two, great offenses but HORRIBLE pitching staffs; the latter two, great staffs.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 30, 2007 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions

You hit the problem though

It's a short, five game series. Cole Hamels is the one Phillies pitcher who is actually quite good. He could go twice in a five game series. We might never see the really terrible Phillies pitchers on the back end of the rotation.

I'd say in a short series, the Phillies have great starting pitching to go with a great lineup.

In the NLCS I don't fear the Phillies so much. But in the NLDS, with Hamels starting twice in five games, the Phillies are going to be very tough to beat--and it would probably take five games and all eleven Cub pitchers to do it.

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by Josh Timmers on Sep 30, 2007 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions

At that point, though...

...all you're really saying is that you fear Cole Hamels more than Pedro, Peavy or Webb. There may well be a case there, but it's marginal compared to the differences in the rest of the pitching staff. The Phillies' #2 starter isn't exactly impressive.

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by cwyers on Sep 30, 2007 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions

I do fear

Hamels more than an injured, broken down Pedro. But you're missing the point. I fear Hamels plus the Phillies offense more than I fear Webb plus the Diamondbacks offense or Peavy plus the Padres offense.

Games, even in the post-season, are not won by starting pitching alone.

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by Josh Timmers on Sep 30, 2007 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions

I agree with you...

The Mets would be limping in with a really dodgy starting rotation, and guys like Delgado and Reyes really struggling in the last month.

Plus, no serious reliable, lock down starters. Maine pitched well yesterday, but he's been terrible. Ditto Glavine, el Puke, and Pedro is still weak and been knocked around a bit.

The Phils offense is insane.

Trachsel was McPhail's last laugh!!!

by Hugest Canadian Cubs Fan on Sep 30, 2007 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions

Go Mets!!!

I want the Cubs to destroy the Mets to atone for 1969.

"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Sep 30, 2007 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions

I just want that crazy 4 team playoff scenario

Good television ... drama ... great baseball ... destroy aces and bullpens + a lot of travel.

We've waited a long time, I can wait an extra day to start the series if necessary.

Tim

by ttagaris on Sep 30, 2007 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions

Don't be so sure

about the Red Sox and Yankees getting prime time slots. In 2003, the Cubs were in prime time and the Yankees got bumped to the middle of the afternoon--and boy, were Yankee fans PO'd about it.

We're probably the bigger ratings draw than the Yankees and Sox right now. Or at least close enough to make it a tough decision for TBS.

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh Timmers on Sep 30, 2007 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions

Blanco

Hope they keep Blanco on post-season roster. he deserves to be rewarded for his loyalty and patience over the past few years.

"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Sep 30, 2007 10:04 AM CDT reply actions

Playoff Roster

I would put Blanco on the roster if he is truely healthy and has played. However, he has hardly played (15 ABs since he came off the DL).

Sounds like they want to take 11 pitchers, so here's my take on the playoff roster.

P - Zambrano, Lilly, Hill, Marquis, Wood, Marmol, Wuertz, Eyre, Howry, Dempster, Marshall

C - Soto, Kendall

IF - Lee, DeRosa, Theriot, Ramirez, Fontenot, Ward

OF - Soriano, Jones, Floyd, Murton, Monroe, Pie

Left off - Cedeno, Blanco, Trachsel, Ohman

If Ward's injury doesn't heal, you might take Blanco I guess. He and Cedeno I think are the only others with a chance to make it. Any thoughts on the roster??

by Paul1984 on Sep 30, 2007 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions

Why Pie??

He has hardly played and his hitting is suspect.

"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Sep 30, 2007 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions

The same is true for Blanco.

n/t

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by cwyers on Sep 30, 2007 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions

Pie??

I know that choice is questionable. I like the option of speed he gives late in the game, especially in a short playoff series. If Cedeno goes insted of Fontenot, then maybe not Pie.

by Paul1984 on Sep 30, 2007 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions

Sigh.

We already know the position players on the roster:

Lee
Ramirez
DeRosa
Theriot
Soriano
Jones
Floyd
Monroe
Murton
Pie
Cedeno
Kendall
Soto
Ward

After today, Ward's hand injury will be evaluated, and if he can't play, Sam Fuld will replace him.

As for why Pie -- he's our best defensive center fielder, and defense wins championships.

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by cwyers on Sep 30, 2007 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions

Well...

...this diary tells us that Fontenot is out, Cedeno is in. Something about "can actually play shortstop." Fuld goes if Ward cannot. And Hart is on the bubble.

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by cwyers on Sep 30, 2007 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions

Should have gone to diary

I read Al's posts daily, but don't have time to get to the diary section all the time and don't comment very often. Should have posted roster thoughts on Ivy Walls' diary. Sorry.

by Paul1984 on Sep 30, 2007 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions

The diary section...

...can get a bit, um, wild at times, especially recently. So I don't really blame you for not delving in there right now.

I just wanted to point out that the roster is pretty much finalized, at least when it comes to position players.

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by cwyers on Sep 30, 2007 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions

Thanks cwyers

If Fuld goes instead of Ward, are you ok with 7 outfielders and only 5 infielders? I did like Fuld last Saturday as I was at the game and saw his great catch from the right field upper deck.

by Paul1984 on Sep 30, 2007 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions

Ward is technically an outfielder...

...even though his best position is probably first base. I'm pretty comfortable with using Floyd/Soto/Murton as backups at first if such a thing is needed -- or at least as comfortable as I can be when such a concept includes losing Derrek Lee.

Between Cedeno, Theriot and DeRosa the other three middle infield positions are reasonably well backed up (all of them have played all three positions this season). So at this point it becomes a question of having enough lumbering, defensively-inadequate pinch-hitting forces and enough punch-and-judy defenders so that you can try to get the advantage in late innings, and quite frankly this club has more narrowly-useful outfielders than we do infielders to require so many substitutions.

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by cwyers on Sep 30, 2007 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions

Cedeno

has to be on the roster. DeRo has only played 8 innings at SS this season. (Lou hasn't yet figured out that DeRo is an excellent SS because he never plays him there.) It wouldn't be fair for him to be the only backup SS.

Fontenot only plays one position. He's a LH PH -- but Ward is our #1 LH PH. He runs well, but Pie and Cedeno are faster as PRs. Not much versatility there, though he and Cedeno may both make it.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 30, 2007 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions

Trib ownership tally

In approx. 25 years this be their 5th playoff appearance; not horrible record but never advanced to WS...be a nice finishing touch.

The last 10 years of Wrigley ownership 73-82 or were pretty grim..I don't see that kind of dry stretch again given new alignment and ownership.

They've built a pretty solid core now just have to tinker around the edges and will be solid contender for years to come, or should be barring catastropes.

Santo made solid point that one of big reasons for Cubs success this year is lack of debilitating injuries...only Soriano for a near-month, and none of the pitchers missed a sked turn.

Compare to Cards' woes and Brewers losing Sheets for last month or so and that's a good reason we finished first.

by writerinwrigley on Sep 30, 2007 11:09 AM CDT reply actions

Trivia

I know a lot of this "post-season" records are nonsense, since the only post-season before 1969 was the World Series, but . . .

Assuming Kerry Wood appears in a game in the post-season, Wood will become the first player since Phil Cavarretta in 1945 to appear as a Cub in three different post-seasons. Stan Hack appeared in his fourth post-season with the Cubs that year. (I can't believe it either) Lon Warneke was also on the 1945 Cubs (as well as the 1932 and 1935 Cubs), but he didn't appear in the 1945 World Series.

Now let's get Kerry something that none of those guys have--a World Series championship.

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh Timmers on Sep 30, 2007 11:18 AM CDT reply actions

THAT IS REALLY COOL!!

Thanks for that tidbit of trivia. Very interesting, hopefully we can get Mr. Wood what he deserves.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Sep 30, 2007 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions

Soto over Kendall

It seems to me that most people here are pro-Soto. Kendall is hitting well under .200 in September, and has a terrible throwing arm. IF the Cubs face Arizona, you need a guy behind the plate that can neutralize their running game. The DBacks have trouble scoring consistently, and will manufacture any way possible.

Kendall's only playoff experience was last year with Oakland, so it's not like he brings extra savvy to the postseason.

Soto doesn't appear intimidated by the situation at all. He would add some serious pop to the bottom portion of the lineup.

A few thought's that may seem crazy to some of you...

Against Arizona's righties, put Jones in the two-hole. He did well there when Sori was on the DL...although that would put two guys at the top that can't take a walk to save their lives. Never mind.

Nobody is mentioning Kevin Hart for the playoff roster. The has been near unhittable since his call-up. Could be a great long man for when Marquis gets shelled in Game 4!

Eleven more W's.

by Hugest Canadian Cubs Fan on Sep 30, 2007 11:43 AM CDT reply actions

Marquis de Sade's

younger sister checking in.

I'm rooting for a 4-way tie in the wild card race. I would love to see our potential play-off opponents fly all over the country and burn their ace pitchers just to get in.

Need:
Mets win
Philly win
SD lose
Col win

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 30, 2007 11:44 AM CDT reply actions

Not bad...

I like your theory.

Eleven more W's.

by Hugest Canadian Cubs Fan on Sep 30, 2007 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions

the only way that would truely benefit us

is if the mets and phillies get into the playoffs, otherwise we play Arizona

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions

Lineup!

Cubs
Soriano LF
Fontenot 2B
Lee 1B
Floyd RF
Ramirez 3B
Jones CF
Kendall C
Cedeno SS
Lilly P

Reds
Keppinger SS
Hanigan C
Votto LF
Encarnacion 3B
Cantu 1B
Coats CF
Ellison RF
Lopez 2B
Bailey P

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by cwyers on Sep 30, 2007 11:45 AM CDT reply actions

4-5 innings

According to Lou's pregame, the regulars may go 4-5 innings. My bet is they'll get 2 at-bats each.

Lilly will go 2-3 innings (30-40 pitches) then we're likely to see as many as seven relievers get one inning of work each.

Dml

by dmlichte on Sep 30, 2007 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions

CSN woes?

is their sound always not in sync with their video, or is it because I'm using Dish and not Comcast?

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 11:58 AM CDT reply actions

Something else to shoot for

I am pretty sure that I picked the Cubs to go 86-76 on this website when we made our predictions. So that is something else for these Cubs to shoot for, help my prediction to be correct.

by MissouriKev on Sep 30, 2007 12:15 PM CDT reply actions

lol

yeah, I picked 90 wins, so unless MLB reverses a few of their loses (and Pie hits 3 HR's), I'm out of the prediction running

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by DTJchris on Sep 30, 2007 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions

SORI AGAIN!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 12:17 PM CDT reply actions

well that was quick

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 12:18 PM CDT reply actions

Anyone with a TV

Does Homer Bailey still have the Bronson Arroyo haircut that his Gameday picture shows?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 30, 2007 12:19 PM CDT reply actions

nope.

cut shorter in back. CSN doesn't really show the pitcher a lot up close, but there are no wings.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Thanks

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 30, 2007 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions

Mr. September does it again

by Walker71421 on Sep 30, 2007 12:22 PM CDT reply actions

didn't he just set the HR record for September?

if so, Call him that! (but he won't be since he isn't a Yankee)

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions

yeah, set the Cub homerun record

by Walker71421 on Sep 30, 2007 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions

wow..the bears look completely lost out there

Griese so far isn't well
Benson decided that you run the ball the opposite way
Gould gets a rare blocked FG

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 12:25 PM CDT reply actions

lilly with a good inning

he may only throw like 30 pitches

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 12:30 PM CDT reply actions

mets news

they are getting killed by those marlins (not looking bad now, huh) in the first

5-0 Marlins

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 12:31 PM CDT reply actions

Glavin

is already out of the game.

The Marlins must like trying to be spoilers.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions

the phillies

they division is pratically being handed over to them, if they don't win they don't deserve it

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions

7-0 MARLINS!

holy cow...

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions

Was he on short rest?

Has to be one of the worst lines in his career:

IP H R ER BB K HR Season ERA
0.1 5 7 7 2 0 0 4.45

Certainly the worst timing.

1. x-Chicago Cubs (0) new magic number = 11

by bison on Sep 30, 2007 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions

the fonz!!

looks like he really wants to get that average up to .300

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 12:38 PM CDT reply actions

70 RBIs for Sori!

I like seeing him hitting base hits. I like seeing them all base hits, rather than constantly going for the HR.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 12:38 PM CDT reply actions

lilly cruising

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 12:42 PM CDT reply actions

and the bears

are deciding not to show up..

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 12:43 PM CDT reply actions

Stat

If the Cubs can shut out the Reds today, they have a chance (I think) to get the team ERA just under 4. They're at 4.02 going in. I haven't actually done the research, so I might be wrong, but an under 4 ERA would look pretty good in this day and age.

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by danimal15 on Sep 30, 2007 12:46 PM CDT reply actions

Just ran the numbers

They'd have to shut out the Reds, since one run allowed would round UP to 4.00 from about 3.997. Or they could give up that one run over extra innings

Still very cool.

by gjdow on Sep 30, 2007 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions

lilly might only throw fifty

to get to five innings..man would I want him to get another win...but gotta preserve him i guess

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 12:46 PM CDT reply actions

lee a double!!

hurray!

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 12:49 PM CDT reply actions

jones doubles!!

not many homeruns this year, but will take doubles!!

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 12:52 PM CDT reply actions

met's have bases loaded

2 outs... and they already scored a run...

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 12:53 PM CDT reply actions

mets = greatest collapse ever

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 12:55 PM CDT reply actions

apparently.

they blew their bases loaded chance.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions

Yep,

just brutal.

phat

by phatass on Sep 30, 2007 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions

Second greatest collapse

After the 1995 Angels.

by gjdow on Sep 30, 2007 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions

8,000 to 1 odds

they'd make the playoffs that year...wow

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by DTJchris on Sep 30, 2007 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions

3rd greatest...

After the 1964 Phillies. Blew 6.5 game lead with 10 to go.

"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Sep 30, 2007 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Anyone have a handkerchief?

I need to wipe the tears off my keyboard.

</sarcasm>

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 30, 2007 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions

From that OTHER sport...

...Brian Griese looks, well... um. To be fair, it's hard to sestablish the pass when your star running back has -1 yards.

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by cwyers on Sep 30, 2007 12:57 PM CDT reply actions

hmmm marquis is in

very interesting..guess give him an inning or two (or maybe a win)

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 12:57 PM CDT reply actions

I hope they can pull this win off today

that way its an even 20 win increase from last season..

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 12:59 PM CDT reply actions

Ron and Pat are having a lot of fun today.

phat

by phatass on Sep 30, 2007 1:02 PM CDT reply actions

I don't want to give up on the bears

but god guys!! come on!

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 1:03 PM CDT reply actions

I think it's at least obvious now...

...that Rex Grossman wasn't the problem with this team. That O-line is wildly problematic.

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by cwyers on Sep 30, 2007 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions

I agree

you could have Tom Brady or Joe Namath in there, and without any protection, the QB is gonna have problems.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions

Garrett Wolfe

Dennis Gentry's alter ego finally gets some touches after Benson fumbles yet again...

Nice drive. Benson looks like Curtis Enis.

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Sep 30, 2007 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions

oh, well,

there goes the series shutout. :D

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 1:05 PM CDT reply actions

meh...

with Marquis's performance so far..its safe to say he is the fourth starter..

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 1:06 PM CDT reply actions

It kinda bothers me that...

...this is a question.

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by cwyers on Sep 30, 2007 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions

maybe fifth!

Hart's better than THIS...

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions

yeah

not impressed with Marquis at all today. This guarantees they'll have to go with enough pitchers to bail him out if he has a meltdown in game 4.

Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Sep 30, 2007 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions

Game 4?

Why would he pitch game 4? Zambrano, Lilly, Hill, Zambrano, Lilly, Zambrano/Hill is the rotation.

by IllinoisCubs on Sep 30, 2007 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions

right down the middle jason...

by cubs2234 on Sep 30, 2007 1:07 PM CDT reply actions

Marquis

Could very well be pitching himself off the roster for the NLDS. He's been batting practice the last few starts, and today is no different. Based upon the schedule for the NLDS, we may not need four starters.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)

by cubfred on Sep 30, 2007 1:07 PM CDT reply actions

Yes

wow, Marquis looks completely terrible.

Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Sep 30, 2007 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions

I wouldn't necessarily mind

if he pitched himself out of a job altogether.

He's lost ALL FOUR RUNS now. Take him out. Take his glove. Take his hat. Take his shirt. Put him on a bus. Send him back to the minors or something.

Gah.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions

hey!

Griese is doing well!

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 1:09 PM CDT reply actions

god Marquis get an out!

sheesh...I shouldn't be like this in an exhibition game..

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 1:09 PM CDT reply actions

good job Marquis

you just blew a four run lead..

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 1:11 PM CDT reply actions

Well NY is getting their lunches handed to them

down 7-1 in the 2nd.....Philly up 1-0....no score with SD-Mil

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Sep 30, 2007 1:12 PM CDT reply actions

500-1 shot.... gotta love it

The sweetest thing is to have the Mets have some false hope yesterday after that blowout/1-hitter, and then today get Glavine chased in the first with a 7-spot.

Go Phillies!!

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Sep 30, 2007 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions

O

pulls it out. Sheesh.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 1:14 PM CDT reply actions

oh well

I figure we can keep on scoring...I'm worried about Marquis in the playoffs though

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 1:15 PM CDT reply actions

you and me both

wow, he had a bad outing today. sheesh.

by Ryno72 on Sep 30, 2007 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions

Whado you think

Has Marquis just blown his spot for an NLDS roster spot? Remember, the roster gets set before each round.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)

by cubfred on Sep 30, 2007 1:15 PM CDT reply actions

we can only hope

"Have Keith Moreland drop a routine fly. Give everybody two bags of peanuts and a frosty malt, And I'll be ready to die." -Steve Goodman

by danimal15 on Sep 30, 2007 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Kevin Hart

I expect to see Hart pitch two innings today. If he does well, Lou has to decide if he's willing to commit to having Z come back on three days rest if it gets to a Game 4. If he's not willing to commit to that, Marquis needs to be on the roster to start Game 4.

Personally, I'd commit to Z and bring Marquis back for the NLCS.

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Sep 30, 2007 1:19 PM CDT reply actions

Fathers up 1-0

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Sep 30, 2007 1:19 PM CDT reply actions

Marquis

Perhaps the key to a world series winner is leaving Jason Marquis off your playoff roster. It worked for the Cards last year... kind of like the trend of firing Buck Showalter and then going on to win the championship the following season.

Seriously, though, there has to be some major concern about Marquis and his effectiveness. This game and this win is inconsequential, but Marquis has had two lousy starts before today's inspired effort. Of late, he is plagued by one big inning and you cannot afford that in the playoffs. What really has to concern the Cubs is the fact that he's not getting the good downward movement and today he was trying to pour fastballs past the batter and that is not how Marquis succeeds. He seems lost.

Frankly, I think I'd rather have Marshall the guy if the Cubs are going to go w/ 4 starters.

DmL

by dmlichte on Sep 30, 2007 1:20 PM CDT reply actions

And the Bears have another DB heading to IR

Kevin Payne out with an arm injury... sounds like it's broken.

Gee, Chris Harris and Cameron Worrell would look darn good right about now.

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Sep 30, 2007 1:23 PM CDT reply actions

Soriano!!

seems like he really wants to get to .300

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 1:23 PM CDT reply actions

And the Sam Fuld experience continues

I really want Fuld to get a hit today. I'm not at all sure he'll be on the 25-man at any point next year, so I'd hate for him to never have a major league hit.

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Sep 30, 2007 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions

Soriano out

.299 BA for year, great

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 1:23 PM CDT reply actions

diff circumstances stuck with him

with ST L last year he was on expiring contract...cubs are committed to him for 2 more years would devastate his confidence if dropped again from playoff roster.

he will be on very short leash if used at all however; agree he's been strugglin but this a strange role for him from pen, may be able to give 4-5 OK innings (1, 2 runs) as starter in playoff depending on foe...but I'm not confident.

by writerinwrigley on Sep 30, 2007 1:23 PM CDT reply actions

In regards to Marquis

I think the match up would really be a determining factor.

Marquis vs. Padres, servicable, Marquis vs. Phillies, scary.

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Sep 30, 2007 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions

I know....

... however I don't think its out of the question that the cubs could leave him off the NLDS roster and send him over to Mesa to work on his mechanics to prep him for the NLCS, where, if they make it that far, they will need 4 starters.

DmL

by dmlichte on Sep 30, 2007 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions

Can Dempster go with him?

by IllinoisCubs on Sep 30, 2007 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions

I thought Griese didn't throw INT's

he threw one on the ONE yard line!

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 1:29 PM CDT reply actions

- sigh -

Yep. His nickname is "Int-Less Griese"

It is OCTOBER, and we're STILL PLAYING BASEBALL!!

by TheEman on Sep 30, 2007 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions

great so now will Dempster implode??

sheesh!

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 1:31 PM CDT reply actions

and if it were also up to me

Dempster is proving why -he- shouldn't be on the roster either.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 1:31 PM CDT reply actions

Well, thank heavens it's not up to you

to leave off a guy whose save percentage is one of the best in baseball.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 30, 2007 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions

NO PHILLIES!!

Puh-LEASE!

Was at a Phils game at Wrigley.

This team is an offensive juggernaut.

It is the ONE team, in a short series, that would have me freakin'

Rollins
Howard
Rowand
Vittorino
Utley
Burell

They have two solid starters - Cole Hamels is "sick".

The ONLY weak spot: Huge Alfonseca

It is OCTOBER, and we're STILL PLAYING BASEBALL!!

by TheEman on Sep 30, 2007 1:33 PM CDT reply actions

Thanks Marquis

For ruining the Cubs' chances of having a below 4 ERA this year.

"Have Keith Moreland drop a routine fly. Give everybody two bags of peanuts and a frosty malt, And I'll be ready to die." -Steve Goodman

by danimal15 on Sep 30, 2007 1:34 PM CDT reply actions

Brewers

Just noticed that Prince Fielder isn't starting at 1B today. Seems odd to me that on the final day of the season, against a team needing a win to get into the playoffs that he wouldn't start. May be nothing, but could this be a sign of tension in the Brewers ranks, problems w/ Ned Yost and other issues? I'm surprised that he's not at least starting and getting an at bat or two.

DmL

by dmlichte on Sep 30, 2007 1:34 PM CDT reply actions

He got run over

by Brady Clark yesterday. Turned his ankle pretty badly. He stayed in the game, but I assume he isn't feeling too well today.

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh Timmers on Sep 30, 2007 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions

I reaaaaaly think it's a bad idea to go

into the post with a loss.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 1:34 PM CDT reply actions

great so Dempster decides to implode!

meh..

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 1:35 PM CDT reply actions

Dempster in non-save situations...

...is terrible. Good thing that's not when we need him.

by mistersite on Sep 30, 2007 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions

the hell!

argh...

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 1:36 PM CDT reply actions

Ned Yost

Not starting Prince Fielder is a bush league move. Especially with so much on the line.

Or do folks think that move is acceptable?

by ttagaris on Sep 30, 2007 1:36 PM CDT reply actions

I believe Fielder got hurt yesterday

in extra innings.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 30, 2007 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions

I think...

... this is more about Prince than Yost, or, more specifically, not a simple decision to just not start Prince. When is the last time a healthy star player sat out the final day of the season, if even just for a few innings? I think this is a sign of the deeper problems in the Brewers club house and why, very likely, Ned Yost is likely to be soon looking for a job.

DmL

by dmlichte on Sep 30, 2007 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions

Why do you assume

he's healthy? I'm guessing you didn't see the collision with Brady Clark yesterday.

The artist formerly known as JoshinLA

by Josh Timmers on Sep 30, 2007 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions

holy crap!!

are marquis and dempster still hung over??

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 1:37 PM CDT reply actions

Dempster's ERA is almost FIVE

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 1:37 PM CDT reply actions

ok...

experiment over. Put in Hart or Wood. No more substitutions on the field; we need what hitters are left.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 1:37 PM CDT reply actions

no we really don't

but putting Dempster in didn't make much sense..

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions

Disagree

Dempster won't pitch for several days. Giving him an inning of work to help keep keep off the rust is a good idea. This game is not at all important.

DmL

by dmlichte on Sep 30, 2007 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions

i agree with it not being important

but I don't get why put Dempster in in that situation?

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions

Who cares...

... the situation? The situation is this... Dempster pitched on Friday. The next Cubs game is Wednesday (possibly Thursday if Wild Card/NL East insanity ensues). The only situation that matters going forward is giving Dempster an inning of work.

DmL

by dmlichte on Sep 30, 2007 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions

To get him some work.

He came in knowing it didn't matter what happened, as did Marquis before him. This doesn't worry me at all; he's been very good (not perfect) when it's mattered.

by mistersite on Sep 30, 2007 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions

I'll bet you now

when he does, he'll give up at least two runs.

And the next him he pitches, it WILL be important.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions

Oh shit.

Looks like the Phils are getting in.

Damn.

That sucks.

It is OCTOBER, and we're STILL PLAYING BASEBALL!!

by TheEman on Sep 30, 2007 1:39 PM CDT reply actions

Bring 'em on

The Cubs didn't fare badly against them in August.

I don't care who the Cubs play in the postseason. Other teams should be more concerned about facing the Cubs, IMHO.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 30, 2007 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions

They LOST

two of four, here.

two of three there.

IS thet really "not faring badly against them".

It is OCTOBER, and we're STILL PLAYING BASEBALL!!

by TheEman on Sep 30, 2007 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions

The Cubs lost two of three

There in May, in the midst of their biggest woes of the season. (And, really, they should have won two of three.)

I think splitting a four-game series isn't faring badly. If I'm not mistaken, that's when the Cubs went into first place for the first time.

I'm not disputing your assessment of the Phillies. But I think, should it come to a Cubs-Phillies NLCS, it'll be a pretty even matchup.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 30, 2007 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions

We would have

the pitching and BP edge, for sure Bruce.

But man! They can RAKE!

It is exciting in any case to see what the potential
match-ups will be.

I had planned to be in Denver for a "long weekend" the weekend of the 12-14!

If the Rockies get in...who knows?!

It is OCTOBER, and we're STILL PLAYING BASEBALL!!

by TheEman on Sep 30, 2007 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions

Absolutely, they can

I love the Phillies' lineup. But I'll take the Cubs' pitching over theirs. And, particularly in the postseason, pitching trumps hitting.

Denver is a great place, and your timing would be impeccable. But right now, if SD holds serve, it looks like the Rox are out. (Unfortunately. Another team I really like.)

But the good news is I have a plane ticket all set for Phoenix for Wednesday and Thursday. All I need is for the Pads to win today, and I'm there.

C'mon, Eman, hit the road and follow the Cubs Army to the Valley of the Sun!

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 30, 2007 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions

HA HA, BRUCE!!

I wish, man!

I am looking pretty good for Wrigley games throughout the Playoffs...

Really, really tight schedule, otherwise until December.

It is OCTOBER, and we're STILL PLAYING BASEBALL!!

by TheEman on Sep 30, 2007 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions

That's the spirit NBF...

the other teams should be fearing having to face the Cubs. The team is well rested, relaxed, with a strong pitching staff and a red-hot Soriano, I wouldn't want to face the Cubs now.

I loved it when Harry cried, "Cubs Win, Cubs Win!"

by Ken Hubbs on Sep 30, 2007 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions

I never want the Mets. Ever.

I will let the Padres deal with the Phillies. I just want the Mets to have the 2nd-worst implosion since divisional play began. I do not remember the 1969 season (I was 5) but I always want the Mets to fail miserably.

And this is about as miserable as it will get for them.

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Sep 30, 2007 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions

It's a beautiful thing

It took 38 years, but the Mets have discovered payback is rich.

One thing Cubs and Cardinals fans can agree upon: The Mets are, indeed, pond scum.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 30, 2007 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions

Also... I might be able to make

a Cubs-Phillies NLCS Game 3. So, I'm being selfish!

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Sep 30, 2007 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions

I will be with you in spirit

In the friendly confines of the Rio sports book in Vegas, I'm afraid. Too many bad memories from 2003 in there.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 30, 2007 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions

Hey, it could be worse...

it could be the Nugget sports book.

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Sep 30, 2007 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions

You forgot to put

quotation marks around "sports book."

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 30, 2007 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions

the Mets playing like the Cubs were..

putting tons of men on base and not scoring

8 LOB

13 for everyone total

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 1:40 PM CDT reply actions

Dempster

has now allowed a run in 8 of his last 12 appearances. He's allowed two runs or more in 3 of his last 12 outings, and 4 runs or more in 2 of his last 12.

Not exactly comforting going into the post-season.

The way things look now, I'd feel a lot more comfortable with either Howry or Wood getting the save chances.

"Have Keith Moreland drop a routine fly. Give everybody two bags of peanuts and a frosty malt, And I'll be ready to die." -Steve Goodman

by danimal15 on Sep 30, 2007 1:41 PM CDT reply actions

Dempster

Has proven, more times than not, that if the game is not a save situation, he pitches like sh*t.

Today is no different. While it would be nice to win, Lou is just trying to get everybody some work.

It's like a spring training game. Although, if you're bad enough, you could cost yourself a roster spot (Marquis.)

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)

by cubfred on Sep 30, 2007 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions

I wouldn't.

Dempster has been very good when it's mattered - not perfect, but there aren't any perfect closers anymore. When we've gone into the ninth with a lead, he's very likely to come out with the save.

How he performs in Game 162, where he and we and everyone else knows it doesn't matter who wins, is no indication of his quality.

by mistersite on Sep 30, 2007 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions

I agree

Many closers just don't pitch well in non-save situations. Maybe it's a lack of urgency. I don't know.

While Dempster will give you ulcers, he generally gets the job done.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)

by cubfred on Sep 30, 2007 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions

that's 13 innings worth of info

for only 12 appearances...

The times when he gave up a bunch of runs, non-save situations. The times when he shut down the opposing team, save situations.

He is our closer, his job is to get saves, he does that.

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Sep 30, 2007 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions

Why is Benson back in the game?

He should go back to playing CF.

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Sep 30, 2007 1:47 PM CDT reply actions

looks like no one is pitching well

I wonder if they drank too much lol

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 1:47 PM CDT reply actions

there's a K for Wood!

excellent.

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 1:47 PM CDT reply actions

Perhaps...

Lou just wanted Dempster to have a meltdown now so that he would be back to "normal" for the NLDS.

And Kerry Wood not doing much better...although I get the distinct feeling that none of them really give a damn.

by rrtycoon2 on Sep 30, 2007 1:48 PM CDT reply actions

Wood

hasn't given up a run yet. One hit and a passed ball doesn't match up to 4 runs in one inning.

And he's out of the inning with THREE Ks!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions

Scratch that last part

KKKerry Wood, not bad.

by rrtycoon2 on Sep 30, 2007 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions

and another!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 1:49 PM CDT reply actions

wood....

closer! closer! (just kidding...)

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 1:52 PM CDT reply actions

Prince Fielder

http://blogs.jsonline.com/brewers/archive/2007/09/30/fielder-out-for-finale.aspx

He is indeed not playing because of injury

DmL

by dmlichte on Sep 30, 2007 1:54 PM CDT reply actions

cedeno

over mendoza line

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 1:54 PM CDT reply actions

wow..

so much for griese being any good..

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 1:56 PM CDT reply actions

they didn't score?

sheesh.

Kerry Wood for closer!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions

Thayer jinxed them

Announced at the top of the 4th quarter that teams leading after three quarters were 38-5 so far this year.

Thanks, Tom. Go back to looking for the ghost of Raymond Burr...

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Sep 30, 2007 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions

Is it wrong

for one man to say to another that teams leading after three quarters were 38-5 so far this year??

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 30, 2007 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions

Mark!! Where's my chili??

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Sep 30, 2007 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions

Speculation on Fielder

I am watching the Cubs, and Bears on-line, so I haven't had the chance to flip to Pads/Brewers.

But yesterday, late in the game, that former Houston outfielder, picked up by the Pads smashed into Fielder in a close play at 1B -- the runner (uselessly) decided to slide, the throw was low -- Fielder went down to pick the throw.

As the runner smashed into Fielder, Price wne down awkwardly on his ankle (left, I believe) and stayed down, in pain. After a delay, he stayed in the game.

24 hours later, that ankle could be barking. Why play him, if that's the case. Perhaps, the answer is over at the other BCB, but I have no need to go there.

Marquis WILL be on the post-season roster. They didn't pay him that cash to go home. It's a great concern that he hasn't had a great outing since St. Louis, but he won't be left home. It was easy for the Cardinals to leave a free-agent pitcher off their roster. Different situation, here.

Bears: As may have been posted earlier, the O-Line stinks. That's part of the QB problem. And, when by now -- it should be clear Cedric Benson is a wasted draft choice -- and can't run. He's slow off the snap, can't create anything, the O-line can't clear a path, and besides that -- seems to be soft. Why do you think Turner keeps throwing the ball?

Add the injuries, and you have a mix for a miserable season. (Tait is now out of this game)

Boy, the window to return to the Super Bowl may have slammed shut way early.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 30, 2007 2:14 PM CDT reply actions

yeah, but

we're not paying Jason Marquis to stink on ice, either.

We have better pitchers on staff. I'd rather put Hart up there than Marquis.

Kerry Wood for closer!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions

Hart is totally unproven

He has only pitched in relief this year, there's no reason to throw him into a starting role for the first time during the playoffs

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Sep 30, 2007 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions

I think unproven

is a bit of a reach, he's pitched a good amount, and well.

And I'd rather have his unproven than Marquis' PROVEN ability to screw it up.

Kerry Wood for closer!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions

11 innings of Major League experience

and not a single start, in my opinion, means unproven.

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Sep 30, 2007 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions

And, of course, I missed the

earlier Post on Fielder. Sorry.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 30, 2007 2:20 PM CDT reply actions

Unless he is hiding

an injury, Marquis will be on the post-season roster. And, I wonder if that could be the case. He did an adequate job this season, save for the last 2 starts and today.

Marquis had nothing at all today -- looked like BP. Fastball right on a line. Off speed pitches all up. But still -- he's a vet and might be able to recover. Except for Lilly, every starter has had a down streak -- Zambrano's troubles being the most notable.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 30, 2007 2:25 PM CDT reply actions

Marquis

I wouldn't worry too much about today, because Marquis is not used to coming in as a reliever. The last two starts haven't been good though.

The good thing about Jason this year is that he has been able to right himself after a little slump, and he has been at his best when the Cubs needed him most desparately.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 30, 2007 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions

Could he have a 'dead arm?'

It happens... but if that's true, he needs to be rehabbing at Mesa next week, not on the NLDS roster.

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Sep 30, 2007 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions

Roster question

According to MLB.com (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070930&content_id=2241051&vkey=news_chc&a mp;fext=.jsp&c_id=chc), JJ will start in CF against both RHPs and LHPs because of his defense. Floyd will be in RF against RHPs and Murton will be in RF against LHPs.

Do we need Monroe on the roster in that case? Pie would be the backup CF as you don't want to count on Monroe as the only backup CF. Kendall/Soto can PH, though the Snakes' bullpen doesn't have that many LHPs. Leaving Monroe off would allow Lou to keep both Fontenot and Cedeno. If you only take one, one injury screws everything. It's easier for IFers (especially DeRo) to move to OF than vice versa -- and you DEFINITELY don't want Sori at 2B in a meaningful game.

Fontenot or Monroe?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 30, 2007 2:34 PM CDT reply actions

brian griese is worth shite

he sucks more than Grossman..orton better start getting ready!

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 2:37 PM CDT reply actions

on the other hand

Hester is AMAZING!

Bears back in the lead!

Kerry Wood for closer!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions

Wow,

I never was a Griese fan and I disagreed in having him start. Grossman should have been the starter to begin with throughout the season, barring injury. The bears issues are deeper than QB. The schedule, everyone gunning for you, and plain luck all play factors in getting to the big show.

Bench griese, and find another rb.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Sep 30, 2007 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions

I live in Denver

I could have told you that Griese is no better than Rex. Get used to it --

DeRo won't be available as a QB until November.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 30, 2007 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions

Bears Update

Greise = Grossman

'nuff said.

by rrtycoon2 on Sep 30, 2007 2:38 PM CDT reply actions

HESTER!!!!!!!!!

'NUFF SAID!!!!!!!!!

by rrtycoon2 on Sep 30, 2007 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions

Ya

just wish he would hang on to the ball.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Sep 30, 2007 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions

Now why would you do these things?

Throw a low fastball to Soriano leading off the game?
Kick off to Devin Hester when you just returned an INT for a touchdown to deflate the Bears?

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Sep 30, 2007 2:40 PM CDT reply actions

Mets

If the score holds, does Willie Randolph lose his job?

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Sep 30, 2007 2:44 PM CDT reply actions

Completely OT, but Carlos Pena??

He was supposed to be the bomb when he was in the Texas organization, and looked to be the next David McCarty instead, bouncing around several organizations. And now he has 46 HR for a very bad Tampa Bay team where you figure he's being pitched around a fair amount.

Amazing.

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Sep 30, 2007 2:48 PM CDT reply actions

Randolph will get fired

This would be the biggest collapse in baseball history, no? A 7 game lead with 17 games left?

by CubbiesBlue on Sep 30, 2007 2:52 PM CDT reply actions

One of the two worst since divisional play

There was a good article in BP the other day about this topic. The 1995 Angels were worse, but the Mets were still a 99.8% lock for a playoff spot earlier this month.

500-1 cannot be completely luck. And Randolph's comment will come back to haunt him.

Still, I do not think he will be fired unless the Yankees win the WS.

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Sep 30, 2007 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions

comments

What were his comments?

by Ilan on Sep 30, 2007 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions

1964 Phillies...

...had a 6.5 game lead with 10 left and blew it (to St. Louis).

"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Sep 30, 2007 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions

this isn't gonna end well.

I know it doesn't matter playoff-wise, but I think it's an unfortunate note to end the season on.

Kerry Wood for closer!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 2:54 PM CDT reply actions

How did the Cubs do in their Las Vegas games?

Do you remember if they won or lost those two games right before the season started?

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Sep 30, 2007 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions

Who cares?

n/t

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 30, 2007 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions

welp

regular season is officially in the books, Onward!

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 2:56 PM CDT reply actions

Well what did we learn about the Bears today??

This team is completely clueless

Griese sucks
Benson can't hold onto the damn ball and can't really run
The defense is falling to pieces

What to do?!?!?!?!

Completely revamp..start someone like Kyle Orton or Chris Leak (seriously) and Garrett Wolfe???

Ron Turner should be fired

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 2:58 PM CDT reply actions

Reply

Agree 100%
Disagree, it is Hester who cannot hold onto the ball.
Agree, Injuries and the Turner bend but break at the end of the game philosophy is crap.

Start Grossman, he is the best QB on the roster, which is not saying much, and don't pass for 40 attempts per game.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Sep 30, 2007 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions

Grossman is better!

we learned that today!

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions

Sorry

meant to say Benson can run, but he is not a breakaway threat, more of a bruiser, which the Bears need badly.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Sep 30, 2007 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions

bears should give up

on this year, and get a real QB in the draft to build around.

Dinosaurs? "Didn't exist. You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them." -Carl Everett

by NDcubsfan on Sep 30, 2007 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions

hell with the way they are playing

they should be in the top ten of the draft!!

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions

3 Detroit TDs in the 4th

4. Defense out of shape & can't play 4 quarters.

by JFCubFan on Sep 30, 2007 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions

make that 4 Detroit TDs in the 4th

This team literally is making me sick.

by JFCubFan on Sep 30, 2007 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions

Make it 4

Probably because the offense cannot sustain drives. Who is the moron on the Bears who has Brian Griese throw it up for 39 attempts. Our receiver core is not that prolific. Play ball control and establish the run early. Play for field position in the first half and wear their defense down.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Sep 30, 2007 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions

Smith & Turner recognize Benson's running

can't sustain a drive alone so he has to put the ball up. Until Benson or Peterson show something on the field, this offense is going to remain pathetic.

by JFCubFan on Sep 30, 2007 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions

football

is killing me this year, the bears blow and Notre Dame might be the biggest waste of talent i've ever seen

Dinosaurs? "Didn't exist. You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them." -Carl Everett

by NDcubsfan on Sep 30, 2007 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions

Milwaukee has taken a 6-5 lead

on the Padres.

This is getting VERY interesting.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 30, 2007 2:59 PM CDT reply actions

Whoops, make that 6-4

n/t

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 30, 2007 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions

Looks like Tomko melted down

Two WP on the same batter.

The Rockies are going to be jacked up. I think the Rockies can beat the Phillies, so I want the Rockies to win the WC - so the Cubs can have home field in the NLCS.

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Sep 30, 2007 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions

Looks like a dogfight in Denver

0-0 in the fifth. Rox pitcher has a no-hitter going.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 30, 2007 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions

So let me get this straight ...

If Philly wins and the Mets lose, no matter what the Padres do today, the Cubs will play the Diamondbacks?

A Philly win/Mets loss would assure an NL West wild-card team, correct? (Either SD or Colorado.)

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 30, 2007 3:05 PM CDT reply actions

Bears

screw this defense
Griese needs to go

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 3:06 PM CDT reply actions

Cant' blame the defense today

No time of possession, so they're on the field all day.
No defensive backs. They're down to putting the 53rd man on the roster in the game today in dime situations.

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Sep 30, 2007 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions

yeah

i think its clear that griese is basically grossman with a worse arm

Kevin Hart Watch: IP: 10.2 K: 12 ERA: 0.84 WHIP: 0.94 K/BB: 3.00 a productive farm system is a wonderful thing.

by kylejo on Sep 30, 2007 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions

yes...

actually a Mets loss alone would do that. If Philly lost as well, the NL East teams are out of WC contention, as SD already has 89 wins.

1. x-Chicago Cubs (0) new magic number = 11

by bison on Sep 30, 2007 3:07 PM CDT reply actions

The Mets would finish one game out of the WC

if everything stays as it is, the way I figure it.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Sep 30, 2007 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions

If Mets lose, Cubs go to Arizona

So if the Padres win and Arizona loses, they tie with 90 wins, but Arizona wins the tie and wins the division.

If the Padres lose, Arizona wins the division outright.

So once the Mets lose, the Cubs head to Arizona.

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Sep 30, 2007 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions

With Pads down 6, it seems

the Cubs are going to AZ, correct?

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Sep 30, 2007 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions

Whatever happens between Pads and MIL

Cubs are indeed heading to Arizona as Mets are eliminated and the WC has to come from the West (SD/Rox)

by cubsnlinux on Sep 30, 2007 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions

BTW

What happened to Olsen, is he hurt again?

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Sep 30, 2007 3:11 PM CDT reply actions

Never mind.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Sep 30, 2007 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions

I find it funny

that they are still running that Dane Cook Mets commercial..

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 3:17 PM CDT reply actions

Go Rockies

I live in Colorado and would love for the Rockies to get into the playoffs... ...A small chance of getting to see the Cubs come here for the NLCS.

I can't believe I'm rooting for the Brewers to beat SD... ...feels weird.

If the Cubs were an international soccer team they'd be called Scotland.

by mrtobby on Sep 30, 2007 3:26 PM CDT reply actions

As a life-long Cubs and Packers fan

I can say that this has been a most enjoyable September. One team has met my expectations (Cubs), one team has surprised me that they actually have an offense (Packers). Never thought it would be the Packers at 4-0 (I assumed it would be the Bears, when the two teams meet next week). But my mind/heart will be on seeing the Cubs getting to the next round as get to/through next weekend. Go CUBS!! 11 wins to go...

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Sep 30, 2007 3:34 PM CDT reply actions

Yeah.

Pretty good weekend for us, I'd say. Packers beat Minnesota, go to 4-0, Favre gets the TD record. And even better than that, the Cubs are in the playoffs!

Before each game, please remember to feed the bats.

by Cool Hand on Sep 30, 2007 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions

Not to pick nits

But please confine your Packers gloating to other web sites. I can't believe I even have to point this out.

I know better than anybody else that Cubs fans are everywhere, and have other affiliations, but the Bears/Packers can bring intense feelings to the table.

There are many disappointed Bears fans on this site. This being Chicago-based, I would think you'd understand.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 30, 2007 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions

Amen

Thank you.

by EliasTirade on Sep 30, 2007 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions

I thought I was trying to be complementary

of how much I fear the Bears. I also made it clear that my mind and heart will be on the Cubs going forward. So take your anger somewhere else. You don't have to throw it at me. I said nothing negative towards the Bears in my post. See no more mention of that "other team." Let's go Cubs!

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Sep 30, 2007 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions

As a life-long Cubs and Packers fan

I totally agree. I commented today during the Packer game that this month has amazing. Packers and Badgers undefeated and Cubs in playoffs.

by Madison Cub Fan on Sep 30, 2007 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions

METS LOSE!!

Mets Lose. Phillies win, and win the East.

Padres are melting against Milwaukee. If they lose, it's up to the Rockies to force the playoff (and get Peavy out of Game 1 against the Phillies)

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Sep 30, 2007 3:43 PM CDT reply actions

Phillies win NL east

...Mets out of it. One more race left -- SD & Colorado.

If the Cubs were an international soccer team they'd be called Scotland.

by mrtobby on Sep 30, 2007 3:44 PM CDT reply actions

1-0 rockies

can you say play-in playoff, worst collapse in division history, Mets lost 7 games in 17 games, Rockies pick up and win 12 of 13 and tie for playoff.

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Sep 30, 2007 3:47 PM CDT reply actions

Rockies now lead 1-0

If the Cubs were an international soccer team they'd be called Scotland.

by mrtobby on Sep 30, 2007 3:47 PM CDT reply actions

anyone else dislike Josh Mora on Comcast ?

He questioned Cub Fan's belief in their team on the post-game show.

by coral on Sep 30, 2007 3:57 PM CDT reply actions

perhaps he reads this blog

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Sep 30, 2007 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions

exactly

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 30, 2007 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions

NY will relook their team

Glavine gets bombed...porous defense, old bullpen, Manager will get fired.

Is there a right fielder we can get for some midlin arms?

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Sep 30, 2007 3:59 PM CDT reply actions

Is this a dumb question ......

are all the playoff games at night?

by coral on Sep 30, 2007 4:01 PM CDT reply actions

No, some NLDS games are during the day. EOM

by amisaid1 on Sep 30, 2007 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions

So...

The Marlins try to spoil the Cubs season, and manage to finish the job on the Mets. It truly is incredible to see how bad teams can still manage to shake things up in baseball.

by rrtycoon2 on Sep 30, 2007 4:31 PM CDT reply actions

I hate the Marlins

but you gotta respect that they never gave up and fought to the last game

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Sep 30, 2007 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions

same with the brew crew

though they were eliminated a couple of days back in what was an intense pennant race, they played hard today and beat the padres.

by cubsnlinux on Sep 30, 2007 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions

DS lose to Brew Crew

all eyes to Colorado... ...1-1 and runners at the corners for Rockies no outs bottom of the 8th.

If the Cubs were an international soccer team they'd be called Scotland.

by mrtobby on Sep 30, 2007 4:38 PM CDT reply actions

I meant SD not DS

doh!

If the Cubs were an international soccer team they'd be called Scotland.

by mrtobby on Sep 30, 2007 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions

2-1 Rockies

Bases loaded no outs... ...there may yet be a baseball game to watch tomorrow.

If the Cubs were an international soccer team they'd be called Scotland.

by mrtobby on Sep 30, 2007 4:42 PM CDT reply actions

Now that

this is all playing out, I think I would actually prefer to see the Pads get knocked out. Their pitching, front to back, is formidable.

Tinker to Evers to Chance.

by Matt Allison on Sep 30, 2007 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions

agreed

also there are too many ex-cubs in SD... ...recipe for disaster.

If the Cubs were an international soccer team they'd be called Scotland.

by mrtobby on Sep 30, 2007 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions

I like that we get another shot

at the hand-waving, fist-pumping Valverde. Say hello to my little friend...Mr Karma. :-)

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Sep 30, 2007 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions

I wouldn't bring up karma

in respect to that guy in my opinion. The first time I watched Valverde pitch, I thought, boy that guy reminds me of Big Z. I sure don't want any karma wished on Z. He has a full time job keeping himself out of trouble and his head in the game without karma barging in. But that's just me being superstitious :-)

fly your W flag Cubs fans!

by love the ivy on Sep 30, 2007 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions

Hey, we are Cub fans,

we live with superstitions! I thought about Z as I wrote the above, but I don't think Z has done anything to inflame the Snakes. And I am hopeful that the "New Z" will continue to work to keep his emotions in check. He has looked a lot more calm in his last couple of starts. Let's hope he brings the A game and A/calm emotions on Hump Day!

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Sep 30, 2007 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Amen! :-)

fly your W flag Cubs fans!

by love the ivy on Sep 30, 2007 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions

important q

can the wild card winner have home-field in 2nd round if better record?? If cubs beat AZ and SD or Colo beat Philly, would Cubs have home field for NLCS?? I think so...AL has home edge no matter what due to ASG.

by writerinwrigley on Sep 30, 2007 4:47 PM CDT reply actions

WC never gets home field within league until WS.

Prince Fielder...he is neither.

by LAcarl519 on Sep 30, 2007 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions

Dempster should be out

He got lit up in Sept. and will cost us a game.

Revamp and place:

Wood (6th -7th)
Marmol - 8th
Howry - 9th

Aug 15 - Ted Lilly walked by the lineup card and said to nobody in particular "I can't believe I'm batting 9th again".

by mweil on Sep 30, 2007 4:56 PM CDT reply actions

Yeah, the beginning of the playoffs...

...is the absolute best time to shake up your bullpen and put your guys in all new roles.

Dempster has been a very good closer, but not so good in non-save situations. We have enough other bullpen arms that we can use him in save situations only.

by mistersite on Sep 30, 2007 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions

Exactly

I can't even imagine what people are thinking about a shakeup on the last day of the regular season.

It's cracking me up, actually.

phat

by phatass on Sep 30, 2007 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions

It is a tad funny

but on second thought, we really should shake up our bullpen, I mean what have they ever done for us? Oh, yeah, they helped us to win the NL Central exactly how currently are configured...oops!

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Sep 30, 2007 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions

Dempster

I am crazy?

Dempster is 0-3 with a 15.57 ERA in September and you are going to throw him out there in a tight ballgame in the playoffs? His stuff is WAY off.

If I recall Howry has experience this year as a closer and was awesome and he is also pitching better then Demp now....much BETTER.

Wood (6th/7th innings) , Marmol (8th) Howry 9th!

Howry to close!!!!!

Aug 15 - Ted Lilly walked by the lineup card and said to nobody in particular "I can't believe I'm batting 9th again".

by mweil on Sep 30, 2007 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions

That is

just silly.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Sep 30, 2007 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions

What?

I say it again -- what?

This ain't fantasy baseball. Should the Padres move Hoffman out of his role? Stop the dramatics.

The real problem is Marquis. He's needed, and I cannot understand why he had become so horribly ineffective since beating the Cardinals.

However, Paul Sullivan on chicagosports.com is suggesting that Dempster's role could change. He also implies Marquis might be off the playoff roster, after onlookers saw an angry, animated Lou Piniella talking with Larry Rothchild during Marquis' poor performance.

And of course, Sullivan likes controversy, so take his words advisably.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 30, 2007 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions

marquis

what purpose does he serve on the nlds playoff roster other than a right handed long man?

Kevin Hart Watch: IP: 10.2 K: 12 ERA: 0.84 WHIP: 0.94 K/BB: 3.00 a productive farm system is a wonderful thing.

by kylejo on Sep 30, 2007 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions

Rox survive the 9th inning against AZ

to setup a playoff with SD for the NL WC..

So its going to be

(1) Cubs Vs DBacks
(2) Phils Vs Rox/SD

for the NLDS

by cubsnlinux on Sep 30, 2007 5:08 PM CDT reply actions

Rockies win

Playoff game in Denver tomorrow against SD for the wild card.

If the Cubs were an international soccer team they'd be called Scotland.

by mrtobby on Sep 30, 2007 5:08 PM CDT reply actions

So we have a game Monday

SD vs. COL @ COL

by rrtycoon2 on Sep 30, 2007 5:08 PM CDT reply actions

if the Rockies beat San Diego

then all four teams in the National League are completely different than the teams last year in the playoffs.

little fun fact there for ya..

Now that he is back, play Matt Murton!!

by Chanman25 on Sep 30, 2007 5:10 PM CDT reply actions

Down the stretch

the Rockies have been charmed while the Padres have been a little cursed. The game is in Denver on the site of Colorado's latest triumphs. Gotta think momentum is waaaay on their side.

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Sep 30, 2007 5:11 PM CDT reply actions

A Great Sunday for MLB

and it again reiterated that come crunch time it really doesn't matter what the match ups are and who is playing who. The better team on the given day will prevail.

by cubsnlinux on Sep 30, 2007 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions

Go Padres!

That is all.

phat

by phatass on Sep 30, 2007 5:13 PM CDT reply actions

Peavy will start for the Pads

But he has NOT excelled in the biggest games he has participated in. (Divisional Series) However, that is a very small sample size. So that may mean little, if anything.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 30, 2007 5:21 PM CDT reply actions

VERY small sample size...

especially if you consider that (a) both his career playoff starts were against the Cards, and (b) the first of those he pitched with broken ribs.

by SouthernCub on Sep 30, 2007 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions

Exactly.

n/t

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 30, 2007 5:33 PM CDT reply actions

Marquis in hot water?

Sullivan at the Trib speculates that Marquis may have blown his NLDS roster spot (i.e. Lou is pissed):

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2007/09/marquis-off-div.html

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Sep 30, 2007 5:50 PM CDT reply actions

Piniella like TLR is what wins

he hates nibblers and veterans who give bunches...
my guess is he was looking to take the air out of the atmosphere...Marquis will be there but if Marshall maks the squad he might get the 4th start...

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Sep 30, 2007 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions

Exacltly

>>If Marquis isn't chosen for the roster, that opens up a spot for rookie right-hander Kevin Hart, who was on the bubble in the 11-man playoff staff. Marquis finished the season with a 12-9 record and 4.60 earned-run average. He has a 6.21 ERA in September, and a 5.73 ERA in the second half.

Hart was a September call-up, but has distinguished himself with a 0.82 ERA in eight relief appearances heading into Sunday's game.

Ryan Dempster is assured of a post-season spot, but he's not doing himself any favors either. Dempster gave up four runs in the fourth inning, the seventh time in his last nine appearances he's given up at least one run. <<

This is exactly what I was talking about. (and it's not a full copy of the article, just a portion quoting, which is perfectly allowed via free use rules.

Kerry Wood for closer!

by drewishdrewid on Sep 30, 2007 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions

Marquis

Marquis has looked like Cy Young next to Dempster.

Wood (6th/7th) Marmol (8th) Howry (9th)!!!!

Aug 15 - Ted Lilly walked by the lineup card and said to nobody in particular "I can't believe I'm batting 9th again".

by mweil on Sep 30, 2007 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions

Not going to happen.

Get over it.

Shawn Johnson, Des Moines, IA, worlds greatest gymnast. 2007 All Around World Champ. GO SHAWN!!!!

by sue369 on Oct 1, 2007 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions

When will we know the tv schedule for the division

series?

Bring back the damn cowbell!

by CubsBall2202 on Sep 30, 2007 7:23 PM CDT reply actions

TV Sked

Also looking for the tv schedule on Wed and Thur. I have a 9-6 (Central) job...I really want to watch these games at night after work instead of trying to pay attention to the games while attempting to also work (wah, wah, waaaahhhh).

I think I read somewhere that TBS has the NLDS and Fox has the ALDS. Is that correct? If so, do they take into consideration the size of tv market involved? The Cubs have by far the largest TV market in the NL now that the Mets are out. Wouldn't it benefit the station carrying the NLDS to put the Cubs on in primetime? Here's to hoping so.

by montanacubby on Sep 30, 2007 8:02 PM CDT reply actions

TBS/TNT has all @LDS Games

According to MLB.com, FOX doesn't enter the picture until @LCS games (second round).

by JoToPo on Sep 30, 2007 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions

So do I have this right?

Its the Cubs vs AZ Wed and Thurs in AZ, Sat and Sun in Chicago, then back to AZ if they need a 5th game on Tues? And then the Phillies play either SD or Colorado?

fly your W flag Cubs fans!

by love the ivy on Sep 30, 2007 8:05 PM CDT reply actions