BCB Interview: Len Kasper

Photo courtesy Len Kasper
The Top 20 HR series will resume tomorrow. Yesterday, I received the replies to the questions that all of us put to Cubs TV play-by-play announcer Len Kasper. You should recognize most of your questions here.
BCB: How do you prepare for the broadcasts? What's a typical day, both at home and on the road? What's your favorite part of your job?
LEN: I can say this honestly (and my wife will attest!), I do baseball homework every day of the year. There isn't one day when I'm not on-line reading up and checking on what's new with the Cubs and MLB in general. I have a vast database of info on players and teams that I have compiled and updated for years and it's a pretty huge undertaking. And it's one that I love. I spend a few hours a day on my computer away from the show up at the park already set to go on the air. I view it this way--if I get stuck in traffic or whatever, could I do that day's game without any other material? The stuff I get at the park just supplements what I've already done. Don't get me wrong, my ballpark prep is HUGE and without it, I wouldn't be nearly as prepared. I just like to feel like I've done everything possible to know what's going on before I even step foot in the ballpark. I take my job very, very seriously and I would never want to show up unprepared.
BCB: You often start conversations with Bob about things that are on the blogs. Do you use the Internet as a way to pick up on what the fans are interested in? What other sources do you use for inspiration?
LEN: Sure, all the time. I like to keep up with what Cub fans are saying and writing about. It's weird, but I'm "inspired" by a lot of different things, many of which have nothing to do with baseball! You can never have too much B material just in case...
BCB: Your call of the Ramirez walk-off against the Brewers can be heard every week during "Best of" segments on just about every channel. Did you ever imagine your voice would be used for that segment on a weekly basis? How does that game/moment rank among all the games you've ever called?
LEN: It's funny, that call has become my signature call, but that's only because the moment was so great. I really don't view that moment as having anything to do with me per se. It was a thrill to be in the ballpark when it happened and I just happened to have the honor of screaming at the top of my lungs into the mic when it transpired. The highlight show stuff is neat, but again, it didn't make those shows because of my call. It's because of the drama of that particular moment. And yes, that was my favorite broadcast moment because of the drama of it.
BCB: Do you and Bob feel at all pressured (either real or perceived) to toe the company line rather than express any true criticism of the way the Cubs are playing or of questionable moves that Lou makes during the course of a game?
LEN: No, we just do the games to the best of our ability. I think the holding back part is simply having a sense of decorum and understanding that 1) it's a very difficult game to play and 2) we're broadcasting baseball, not doing an over-opinionated talk show. We don't shy away from pointing out what's going on. I do it mostly by saying, "The Cubs are 0-for-their-last-20 in these situations" or "The Cubs have lost 9 in a row" or whatever. I treat the audience as thinking human beings who can form their own opinions. Yes, I have opinions, and they come out at times, but if I simply spouted them for 3 hours, I guarantee you, it wouldn't be a very enjoyable broadcast. Bob has his opinions too and I enjoy bringing those out, and he's not afraid to be critical at all. It's just that we don't normally scream those opinions.I think we do a thinking-person's broadcast and I'm proud of that. The biggest key for me is that we don't miss stuff. That's a huge goal of mine. I don't ever want to ignore something just because it goes against the Cubs or might not be a positive. We owe that to the viewers.
BCB: You often work some statistical analysis into your broadcasts. Can we expect more of this in 2008? You've used advanced metrics from Baseball Prospectus before. How did you get introduced to BP? How do you weigh that against, say, more "traditional" statistics and what you hear from scouts and managers?
LEN: Yes, I'm always looking for ways to blend in some of the lesser-known, yet important, stats. It's a fine line though ... I can't drop VORP and OPS+ in too often because not enough people understand what those terms mean. I'd love to replace BA with OBP, but at least we're now putting both stats on the batter graphic, which is a step in the right direction. I was indoctrinated into sabermetrics by my good friend Jon Sciambi, with whom I worked in Florida. And then I read the Holy Grail of modern baseball books, Moneyball, and I was hooked.
BCB: Have you and Bob dicussed the possibility of Bob leaving to become a major league manager? What would you think about working with someone else, and would you have any say in who was chosen IF this happened?
LEN: I would be shocked if a team doesn't come after Bob at some point to manage again. His track record with Arizona speaks for itself. As a friend, I want what's best for him, but selfishly, I hope we're together in the Cubs booth for a long, long time to come.
BCB: Not only is Wrigley full of history and tradition, but the press box is as well. Does it feel to you, sitting in a place where Harry Caray once called games, like the Holy Grail of broadcasting jobs? Do you ever sit there and think "My God, this is where an icon and legend once roamed!" If you weren't calling games for the Cubs, what else would you be doing?
LEN: No doubt about it. It is the pinnacle of broadcasting jobs. I can't think of a better job in sports. I often think about how special that broadcast booth is and how fortunate I am to sit in a chair once occupied by Jack and Harry and Chip. If I weren't broadcasting, I have no idea what I'd be doing.Maybe a college history professor? Or as David St. Hubbins once said in Spinal Tap, "I'd be a full-time dreamer."
BCB: Talk a little about the evolution of the play-by-play voice. Specifically, it seems that guys like Vin Scully, Harry Caray, Dave Niehaus and Jack Buck are a dying breed, only to be replaced by a very specific type of voice. Do play-by-play men have the ability to develop their own unique style these days? Or, do they have to conform to what seems to have become a very pre-packaged and formulaic announcing style? Also, why do you think that the networks go for the "Big Name" announcers/analysts in guys like Joe Morgan, Tim McCarver, Chris Berman, and even Mark Grace instead of a "lesser-known" announcer who might do a "better" job?
LEN: Wow, that's a lot to contemplate! I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm simply trying to do the best job I can and to be as genuine as I can. I grew up listening to all the broadcasters you mentioned and my hero is the great Ernie Harwell, who has influenced my style more than anyone. I think there are many terrific young broadcasters working today, each with his/her own style. I know of no particular formula that I'm trying to conform to. I'm just trying to improve every day as a play-by-play announcer and that will never change.
BCB: Question from a Marquette grad: What, if any, ties do you still have with Marquette University?
LEN: I still keep in touch with friends whom I attended Marquette with and I've gone to a couple basketball games over the past few years. It's a great college and I am forever indebted to MU for helping me get to where I am today.
BCB: About the team: how much pressure do you think Cub players put on themselves to be the first Cubs team to win a World Series in 100 years? Also, are there any players that you feel seem "overwhelmed" with everything that comes with playing for the Cubs and playing for the most fanatical fanbase in pro sports? What would be one positive and one negative resulting from the upcoming sale of the team?
LEN: Honestly, we (you and I) think about the 100 years thing much, much more than the players. In fact, while the players are aware of it, I don't think it affects anything they do. They're simply trying to win every game and get to the World Series, PERIOD. Whether it's here or somewhere else, players simply play to win and to be the best they can be. I will say this -- if I were a player, I'd want to play here.The ballpark is packed every day, the fans are amazing. There's pressure to do well, but it's good pressure. You are rewarded if you play well. I think most players love the environment of Wrigley Field.
BCB: How close are you to the players? Do they tell you things about injuries, for example? And are there thus things about this that you feel you can't say on the air because then opponents would find out? Do you ever make suggestions to players on things that you observe from the booth?
LEN: It depends on the player. Some tell me things that aren't for "air" as they say. A lot of it comes down to the trust factor. If you build trust, players feel comfortable that they can tell you things and you'll use your best judgment in using that information. It's hard to put into words because it comes down to experience, but you tend to learn what's on the record and what's not. And if I ever have a question about that, I simply ask, "Can I use that on the air?" Some may be shocked to learn that I don't use all that info, but any good reporter or journalist will tell you that in order to build strong professional relationships, you need to make people feel comfortable that you're not going to simply repeat everything you hear in a clubhouse. There's a sense of decorum in there. If every player felt like everything they tell you from the second you say "Hello" is going to make that day's broadcast, it wouldn't be very comfortable, you know? I mean, even though we're in there working, I respect their space. On the last question, I ask all kinds of questions based on what I see from the booth. I never give pointers of course!! But for instance, I'll see Aramis Ramirez react a certain way to a pitch and the next day, I'll ask him, "On that 2-1 fastball in the 3rd inning, why didn't you swing?" Or to Derrek Lee, "Why did you look frustrated on the 3-1? Did you think it was a ball or were you upset at yourself that you didn't swing?" That stuff helps me gain the perspective of the player on the field. It's not something I would necessarily use on the air, but it gives me an idea of their approach. And I've never asked, but my guess is that players (most anyway) appreciate the fact that you're paying attention. I really pride myself on asking questions. I've asked some dumb ones, believe me, but I think it's really important in my job to always seek knowledge (why did you swing at that? ... why did you throw that pitch in that spot? ... would you have pinch hit this guy if that guy had come into pitch? ... why didn't you send the runners on the 3-1? ... etc.). The "why" questions are the big ones. And again, that comes with trust. I never ask to second-guess. I always ask to LEARN. Big difference. If people think you're always criticizing or saying, "If you had done this instead, it would have worked better," you tend to put people on the defensive. It takes time, but if you ask questions in a certain way and if you gain people's trust, it gives you a lot of leeway in asking what some would view as tough questions.
BCB: There were quite a few BCB readers who said, "You're doing a great job!" Do you think, after three years, that Cub fans have now accepted you?
LEN: You always hope people like what you do. I think it's a process of people getting used to your style, your voice, your personality, the chemistry you have with your partner. And it never hurts to call games for a winning ballclub. I think 2007 was great for Bob and me because the team was so fun to watch. Let's face it, when we're giving you good news, it's easier to like us than when we're giving you bad news! Seriously though, it means a lot that so many people have welcomed me into the Cubs family. I appreciate all the feedback, positive or negative.
BCB: And finally, a little fun: Does Bob Brenly really get that excited about floppy hat day?
LEN: Ahhhhhh, yes, he actually does.
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Len Kasper
Thanks for the interview.
by Slakkr on Jan 25, 2008 9:25 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'll see what I can do...
by Al on Jan 25, 2008 9:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice cat, that Len
I would have liked to have asked him what his most embarrassing or bizarre moment may have been - that he could have shared - Not knowing the mic was on...an odd "stretch" guest...etc.
by TheEman on Jan 25, 2008 9:38 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
by jcg996 on Jan 25, 2008 9:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would've like to seen someone ask him
Hey Al, did Len create an account here? His input on this board would be greatly appreciated.
by escapegoat on Jan 25, 2008 12:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to my knowledge.
I also asked him to forward to Bob Brenly a request for a similar interview. We'll see what happens.
by Al on Jan 25, 2008 12:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great Interview
by tucsoncubsfan on Jan 25, 2008 9:39 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Duo
by Luigi on Jan 25, 2008 9:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
This reaffirms
by love the ivy on Jan 25, 2008 10:00 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks...
Aside: My wife is a huge Cubs fan. She prefers, however, to turn down the sound and listen to Ron and Pat on game day. It's not that she ~doesn't~ like Len and Bob, she just prefers Ron's goofiness paired with Pat's straight-man, thoughtful character. As for me, while I love Pat, Ron can sometimes, well, get on my nerves. I have ~all~ the respect in the world for Ron's accomplishments ~and~ character. Period. But I prefer to listen to Len and Bob.
Does anyone else share my preference---or have to deal with the same in-house tension on game day? - TL
by timlacy on Jan 25, 2008 10:17 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
re:
But I like both broadcast teams. Just depends on what mood I'm in. When the Cubs are away, I like to catch the broadcast of the home team, just to see what they're like.
As far as between me and my wife--I call the shots. I'm the man, and I wear the pants in the family, and any other demeaning comment I can come with while my wife is in the other room! 8-)
by Floyd on Jan 25, 2008 10:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
re: re:
That said, because of the delay between the radio and TV broadcasts that you mention, I'd never seriously consider trying to listen to Pat and Ron and watch the game on television. The lack of synchronicity drives me nuts and, more important, I like what Len and Bob bring to the table.
by dat cubfan daver on Jan 25, 2008 11:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice piece
by JodyDavis on Jan 25, 2008 10:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Len is a pro all the way
And, of course, after reading the interview, I thought of a couple other (relatively minor) questions I could have suggested:
- Will Len and Bob be doing their weekly podcast on WGN again this year? And, if so, will the shows be any longer? (They were really brief last season.)
- How come no Len and Bob Bash this off-season? Where else am I gonna to hear "Folsom Prison Blues" done up like that? (Or was there one and I just missed it? If so, uh, sorry.)
by dat cubfan daver on Jan 25, 2008 10:37 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
re: Len is a pro all the way
And now, for your viewing and listening pleasure, here's the Len and Bob Bash Band doing "Love Stinks" and "Crazy".
by dat cubfan daver on Jan 25, 2008 10:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bob
Love this duo and would be happy with it for years to come.
If you are reading this Len, this is random, but you did a viewing at my buddies condo on Wells near Second City a couple months ago. You passes, admit it, it was the crappy kitchen...?
by Hammer on Jan 25, 2008 10:58 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Len seems like an announcer
by Chanman25 on Jan 25, 2008 11:12 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Which means....
by santoswoodenlegs on Jan 25, 2008 11:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe a little Cynical?
by Imtrejo on Jan 25, 2008 11:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The joy of pessimism is...
by santoswoodenlegs on Jan 25, 2008 12:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know what you mean,lol!
by love the ivy on Jan 25, 2008 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Once..
I should have asked her if she knew who was pitching...........
by Hammer on Jan 25, 2008 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice interview
by DaveinHouston on Jan 25, 2008 11:48 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Floppy Hat Day
by KyCubsFan on Jan 25, 2008 11:52 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Len!
by Jettero2112 on Jan 25, 2008 11:54 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Favorite Call and Funny Moment
See video on this Cubs.com page -
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/multimedia/tp_archive.jsp?c_id=chc&ym=200706
By the way, you can see the Ramirez call on this page as well.
I think the funniest thing I heard all year was Len and Bob's 7th inning stretch with Kelly Pickler - the american idol contestant/singer - on June 12th. They seemed speechless and maybe a bit tongue tied by her. They talked about her interview for a few games after. I still chuckle thinking about it.
WGM News video highlights of it here -
by mph3 on Jan 25, 2008 11:59 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Pickler
by SantoHOF on Jan 25, 2008 12:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not literally of course....
by SantoHOF on Jan 25, 2008 12:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Soriano hug off
by JohnM on Jan 25, 2008 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
re: Soriano hug off
I also notice that Mike Fontenot went five-for-five in that game. He was clearly in the midst of his freakish June hot streak.
by dat cubfan daver on Jan 25, 2008 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This was a very enjoyable read.
by ctcoff99 on Jan 25, 2008 12:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Len and Al.
by sue369 on Jan 25, 2008 1:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I remember that one!
Great job again, Al, and everyone's questions.
Next to Steve Stone, Brenly has always been my 2nd favorite color man.
I love Len's enthusiasm and professionalism. I hope he's here for many years.
by BigJohnAZ on Jan 25, 2008 1:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here is my favorite color man.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jan 25, 2008 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Len ia a good chap
Time will only do that for them.
I am beginning to feel fond of Len and Bob. Like Jack and Harry, I only thought of summer, baseball Wrigley Field, the Cubs and all that goes with that experience when you hear there voice. It's Pavlovian.
by Scott G F on Jan 25, 2008 2:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Len, but...
Thanks anyway for the great job you do, and glad to have you a part of the Cubs family!
by IowaCubs- on Jan 25, 2008 2:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Len is awesome.
by sparkles721 on Jan 25, 2008 2:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
So where's today's entry in
by TR on Jan 25, 2008 3:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Did you read the top of the post?
And I object to your description of the list, although it IS my personal list (with some help from my friend Mike). I think by the time it's over you'll agree it's a pretty good list.
by Al on Jan 25, 2008 4:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Len is starting to win me over.
by buckmulligan on Jan 25, 2008 4:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Huh???
by LilLPLancer23 on Jan 25, 2008 6:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Len and Bob
While I'm sure they want the Cubs to win, they have the ability to be objective. They take their jobs seriously, but don't take themselves too seriously.
Nice interview, and good questions posted.
by Shanghai Badger on Jan 25, 2008 5:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They came into a tough situation
I think as I said before both are here for the long haul unless Bob gets a manager's job (I also think Pat Hughes is and hope Santo is around quite a long time).
I was in Len and Bob's corner from the start and more and more people are telling me "you know what, you were right!"
by cubstoseriesby100 on Jan 25, 2008 9:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, they did come into a tough situation
by Shanghai Badger on Jan 25, 2008 10:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Len
I think unless he goes back to managing Bob is too.
by cubstoseriesby100 on Jan 25, 2008 8:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Excellent post, Al.
Len's thourough preparation shows during the broadcasts. Why is that so important to me as a baseball fan? Remember the playoffs on TBS and how Dick Stockton didn't know the Cub players and the full extent of their abilities? That's why.
by Fraggin Judge on Jan 25, 2008 9:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I've been
My other favorite call from last season was the night the Cubs beat the Reds to go into first place and he simply added to "Cubs Win." "The first place Cubs win"
by cubstoseriesby100 on Jan 25, 2008 9:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Al
It was a joy to read it and I really do like how Bob and Len call games.
I'm off on vacation for a week with no internet so my Cubs days are on hold (not sure if I can survive!!!!) but this was a nice send-off piece of read.
Thanks!
by ak123 on Jan 25, 2008 10:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You have to realize how good
Again, I point at the 'unique' style of Matt Vasgergian in the San Diego market. If he brought that terrible body of work to his Fox telecasts, he wouldn't be long for network duty.
And of course, you just have to travel south on the Dan Ryan to hear the worst of the worst....
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jan 25, 2008 11:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Len's call of Cubs over Brewers from June 30th
The one question that was not asked, though...does BB every talk about running puss back in the day? NOW THAT is something I'd freeze in my tracks to hear!
by VolPowers on Jan 26, 2008 1:28 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Running puss?
by dat cubfan daver on Jan 27, 2008 10:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
len
by NOMAR on Jan 26, 2008 6:21 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
That was great!
Keep up the great work!
Dave
by Dave in the basement on Jan 26, 2008 7:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
They have grown on me...
by slocs55 on Jan 27, 2008 4:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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