Oh, The Humanity
Trade talks between the Mariners and Orioles about Erik Bedard...
Just one more thing.
MAKE IT STOP. PLEASE, MAKE IT STOP.
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AGREED
by philadelphiacub on
Jan 30, 2008 11:57 AM CST
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That's why
I agree. Let's forget about Roberts.
by Josh77 on
Jan 30, 2008 12:00 PM CST
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Let's forget Roberts............
After the Santana deal, the price for his services should be less than originally anticipated.
by tville on
Jan 30, 2008 12:43 PM CST
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That is not going to work
by cubfaninSTL on
Jan 30, 2008 12:52 PM CST
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If only one team is interested
by pageian on
Jan 30, 2008 2:12 PM CST
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But
by cubfaninSTL on
Jan 30, 2008 2:15 PM CST
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and we don't need him.
by buckmulligan on
Jan 30, 2008 4:06 PM CST
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Dang straight ..
by cubnational on
Jan 30, 2008 10:28 PM CST
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Khalil Green
by Jettero2112 on
Jan 30, 2008 12:04 PM CST
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I would actual expect that MacPhail...
And for what it's worth, Peter Gammons has said that Roberts will be a Cub within the week.
by cwyers on
Jan 30, 2008 12:04 PM CST
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MacPhail...
by Al on
Jan 30, 2008 12:10 PM CST
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Orioles
DmL
by dmlichte on
Jan 30, 2008 12:07 PM CST
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Oh, and by the way...
by cwyers on
Jan 30, 2008 12:14 PM CST
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Crisp
by Josh77 on
Jan 30, 2008 12:20 PM CST
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no to Crisp
by cubfaninSTL on
Jan 30, 2008 12:43 PM CST
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Trade Pie...
by cubswin14 on
Jan 30, 2008 3:36 PM CST
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trading partners
Hirsh has a chance to be truly dominant. I saw him in person a couple times in AAA and he was untouchable. I can't imagine how Houston ever thought that was a good deal.
by cubfever7 on
Jan 30, 2008 12:17 PM CST
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Please stop...
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jan 30, 2008 12:19 PM CST
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Is there any chance you can e-mail this pic to me?
by Imtrejo on
Jan 30, 2008 11:55 PM CST
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Even better...
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jan 31, 2008 12:07 AM CST
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OT
Also, I think that all the otehr deals for Bedard have falen through should be encouraging, not frustrating. Hendry should start circling Baltimore like a buzzard, waiting for desparation on their part.
by jazzypete on
Jan 30, 2008 12:20 PM CST
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Wood...
You can also check out this website as well www.csac.biz they post all the appearances of certain athletes and what not, whether it is a marketing thing or an actual signing. You have to pay a fee to get advance signing notices but they will give you day of info for free (meaning if Kerry is signing today you can get the info today). This site is great for during the Cubs season, alot of times you can get some up and coming Cub players (last year, Hill, Theriot) for great prices.
by HIGGY on
Jan 30, 2008 12:40 PM CST
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Al, you've wanted to make it stop
Did you run out of other topics?
You know you can always bring up the Byrd trade possibilities...yikes!
by blackhawk24 on
Jan 30, 2008 12:20 PM CST
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It's a SLOOOOOOOOOOOOW news time.
by Al on
Jan 30, 2008 12:33 PM CST
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exactly, these trade rumors
by buckmulligan on
Jan 30, 2008 4:08 PM CST
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Weeeellllll....
He also told a good Mike Fontenot story. He said that last spring, due to a numbers crunch, Fontenot was thisclose to being released. Enough people stuck up for him, he was retained and he ended up being a valuable member of the big club for a while.
by BeerCub on
Jan 30, 2008 12:40 PM CST
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I agree
by TheHawk5 on
Jan 30, 2008 12:41 PM CST
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New Hornsby quote
by madeindetroit on
Jan 30, 2008 12:54 PM CST
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Or...
by ms9av on
Jan 30, 2008 12:58 PM CST
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amen.
by drewishdrewid on
Jan 30, 2008 1:35 PM CST
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Just to show you how bad Orioles are...
by ballhawk on
Jan 30, 2008 12:54 PM CST
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Tampa Bay
by cubfaninSTL on
Jan 30, 2008 12:57 PM CST
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It's very unfortunate for them...
Unfortunately, as you said, they have virtually no shot to compete in that division.
by SouthernCub on
Jan 30, 2008 2:45 PM CST
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Al
OK, now that I know you're all right...
I agree. It sounds like Angelos wants to renege on McPhail's handshake -- something that would be unexpected from any source other than Angelos.
Hendry needs to move on. He still needs to trade Murton for a RH CF/4th OF. He probably also intends to jettison Marquis (or Dempster). The longer he waits, the less choice he's going to have as far as trading partners. Forget Roberts, get the rest of the shuffling done, then "Play Ball!"
by DeRoMyHero on
Jan 30, 2008 1:44 PM CST
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I don't necessarily agree...
Let's say Dempster and Marquis BOTH throw well in spring training and so does Lieber.
That makes one of Dempster/Marquis not only expendable, but desirable. You can bet there will be plenty of scouts at Cubs spring training games.
by Al on
Jan 30, 2008 1:54 PM CST
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Dempster....
by BeerCub on
Jan 30, 2008 2:12 PM CST
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Didn't see him there last week...
by BeerCub on
Jan 30, 2008 2:23 PM CST
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For what this is worth...
by Anders on
Jan 30, 2008 1:56 PM CST
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For the last few off-seasons
Spring Training cannot start soon enough.
by rlpete on
Jan 30, 2008 2:21 PM CST
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Yeah, but on the other hand...
Oh, look - Andy Petite could testify against Clemens. Fun, fun, fun.
by cwyers on
Jan 30, 2008 2:24 PM CST
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I agree
by rlpete on
Jan 30, 2008 2:28 PM CST
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I have a feeling
by pageian on
Jan 30, 2008 2:30 PM CST
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I never get tired of Clemens stuff
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/tom_verducci/01/29/verducci.clemensreport/index.html
Darn I can't find one from a sports doctor obliterating the idea
that a trainer could or would inject lidocane but I do rember his saying it is effective for only about two hours thus if it was injected it would have to be in the clubhouse right before a game.
This does make my off season go faster.
by jessica on
Jan 30, 2008 4:48 PM CST
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Jessica
The ONLY use I could see is if the lidocaine were injected into a sensitive area that was hurting, i.e., elbow, shoulder etc. and even then it might mess up the pitcher's performance since the proprioception (i.e., ability to sense one's body part in space) would be messed up.
This is nonsense. And B12?! Why on earth would a young, healthy guy take B12. As far as I can tell, he did not have some sort of nutritional deficiency or megaloblastic anemia.
Clemens is only making himself look stupider. He should have admitted use citing that he used HGH before it was illegal. Denying everything highlights the extent of his lies.
by nickler on
Jan 31, 2008 7:15 AM CST
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I don't get
by pageian on
Jan 30, 2008 2:29 PM CST
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And lucky us in the DC area
It's total speculation but I wonder if Angelos is pissed because MacPhail didn't keep him in the loop. Until this incident, all indications were that MacPhail had autonomy. The Tejada trade went smoothly but since Angelos didn't want Tejada he probably didn't care. When MacPhail wants to start touching his favorites in Bedard and Roberts, that's another thing.
by rlpete on
Jan 30, 2008 2:36 PM CST
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Which tells you...
by Al on
Jan 30, 2008 2:47 PM CST
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That is exactly what I keep thinking
by N Oakley on
Jan 30, 2008 3:03 PM CST
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Hopefully this latest Angelos brain cramp
by blackhawk24 on
Jan 30, 2008 3:26 PM CST
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Agreed. Got it Jim.
I like the idea of Pie developing, but I see the Cubs missing a good starter. A rotation of:
Zambrano
Lilly
Bedard
Hill
Lieber/Gallagher/Hart
Would have me excited. You don't know me, but it takes a lot to create optimism at the start of a season.
by N Oakley on
Jan 30, 2008 4:23 PM CST
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Would you make this trade? (if the O's would)
You pick up Crisp or another serviceable CF and a you have a bonafide difference maker leadoff hitter and a starting staff of Z, Bedard, Lilly, Hill and whoever at #5. That staff witht he current bullpen can take you to the WS kids; a little too left handed, but very nice.
by cubfever7 on
Jan 30, 2008 4:29 PM CST
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I'd do it
by pageian on
Jan 30, 2008 6:05 PM CST
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Oh hell yeah
Too good to be true.
Z, Bedard and Lilly match up now with the snakes and Mets...
I'd stay away from Crisp though.
by blackhawk24 on
Jan 31, 2008 9:09 AM CST
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I wouldn't do it.
Plus, then you have mortgaged not only your top two OF prospects, you've also given up two good young arms. What if Bedard suddenly comes down with Mark Prior Towel Disease?
Nope. Forget this. Let's move on.
by Al on
Jan 31, 2008 10:11 AM CST
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To get both
Sure, Bedard could get hurt, but so could any one.
Whatever happens, I hope it's soon . . . someone else mentioned that this is probably a distraction for Roberts; it's got to be for the Cubs, too.
by Shanghai Badger on
Jan 31, 2008 10:42 AM CST
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You can't use the injury what-if
What if Derrek Lee injured his wrist in April and was inneffective the rest of the season because of it? Oh wait that already happened and the Cubs tanked.
I don't care about the future. I've waited long enough already. I want a Cubs WS title.
This is such f-ing crap about not giving up prospects. That's why they're called prospects. The Cubs aren't dealing Z, A-Ram, Fonzie or D-Lee.
As-constructed, this team will be hard pressed to even make the WS, let alone win it.
Their pitching staff is largely unchanged from last season and they've only added 2 players, who are decent lineup upgrades from before but not enough to get by good teams in the playoffs with good starting pitching.
Remember the Cubs were swept by the snakes, who were swept by the Rox, who were swept by the BoSox.
by blackhawk24 on
Jan 31, 2008 3:00 PM CST
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And remember...
by Al on
Jan 31, 2008 5:46 PM CST
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MLB.com is reporting...
I swear, this Hot Stove should have come with a copy of "On Death and Dying" so we could brush up on the five stages of grief.
by cwyers on
Jan 30, 2008 4:36 PM CST
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I think we're all at "anger" right now.
by Al on
Jan 30, 2008 5:32 PM CST
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Angelos might be doing us a favor...
The good news is Angelos can't buy the Cubs..
by JB 23 on
Jan 30, 2008 4:38 PM CST
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That's good stuff
by pageian on
Jan 30, 2008 6:11 PM CST
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1 more month
by Chanman25 on
Jan 30, 2008 5:29 PM CST
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A Cardinals fan sent me this link...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=511337&in_page_id=17 70
by Neifi Puppy on
Jan 30, 2008 5:45 PM CST
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Those people...
by Al on
Jan 30, 2008 6:33 PM CST
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Hendry
http://chicago.comcastsportsnet.com/ctl.asp
by sue369 on
Jan 30, 2008 6:17 PM CST
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Bedard to resign with the O's
Also, the mentioned Jones' hip problem, which is evidently similar to Albert Belle's, which cost Baltimore tens of millions of dollars for no production whatsoever.
So maybe another team can get in on Bedard if they arent interested in Seattles offer and McPhail wont go past 3 years in a new deal with Bedard
by bren on
Jan 30, 2008 6:55 PM CST
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With Angelos attempt to resign Bedard
Congratulations, the worst owner in all of sports: Mr. Peter Angelos of the Baltimore Orioles
by Chanman25 on
Jan 31, 2008 6:26 AM CST
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Angelos or P.K.?
Not only is he ruining the opportunity to infuse the club with young talent and cut payroll, he's effectively telling next year's FAs and beyond that Baltimore is a place where a meddling owner will suffocate the responsibilities of his staff and is no place for a player to be free to perform without in-house drama.
Anyway Trembley is part of a "College of Coaches" this year?
by The Ryno and I Know on
Jan 31, 2008 7:55 AM CST
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Al Davis...
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Jan 31, 2008 10:41 AM CST
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