Open Thread: Cubs vs. Angels, Saturday 3/1, 2:05 CT

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2008 11:29 AM CST in Game Threads

While you are deciding how to project Jason Marquis' 2008 season in the thread below this one, you can watch him make his first spring start against the Angels on CSN Chicago. Jered Weaver (you know, the Weaver brother with actual talent) gets the start for the Angels. The game is also available at the MLB.com Mediacenter; according to posts from BCB reader Josh (that you may have missed in another thread), the Angels' radio broadcasts are being made available free during spring training, so even if you don't have access to CSN, you should still be able to hear the game online.

Yesterday, Closer Candidate #1 (Carlos Marmol) threw a scoreless inning, his first of the spring. Today, we should see Candidates #2 and #3 throw for the first time. That article also notes that Bob Brenly will not be broadcasting today due to a "family commitment"; Dan Plesac will sub for Bob.

It's a "Day Off" kind of day -- nearly all the regulars will stay home. Incidentally, watch for MLB to say something to the Cubs about this; visiting teams are supposed to take four regulars to road games. The Mets have already violated this rule this year and might get fined for it.

Finally, there's a new potential bidder for the Cubs (the headline says "two" bidders, but the article only refers to one), and this one is minority-owned.

MLB.com Gameday

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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still no Aram

any word when he will start playing?

Live is boring until March 31st strolls by..

by Chanman25 on Mar 1, 2008 11:44 AM CST reply actions

Supposedly...

... tomorrow.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2008 11:50 AM CST up reply actions

regulars

well couldn't you consider Pie, Marquis, and Soto regulars. The forth could be a player like Cedeno

Live is boring until March 31st strolls by..

by Chanman25 on Mar 1, 2008 11:46 AM CST reply actions

I think this meets the 4 regulars minimum

Soto and Pie will most likely start for the Cubs this year, and going by what I've read on this board all off-season, Murton and Cedeno will be regulars for the Orioles.

Somewhat related question: For the regulars who do NOT make the trip (to this game and others throughout the ST season), do they work out at Hohokam or do they go back to Fitch park? Anyone? Anyone?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 1, 2008 11:47 AM CST reply actions

LOL

Seriously, it's supposed to be four regular position players, not including the pitcher.

As far as workouts, I don't know. Some people just get the day off. Others may work out at Ho Ho Kam. I think Fitch Park is now totally taken over by the minor leaguers.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2008 11:49 AM CST up reply actions

Somewhat OT but...

Al, by virtue of your 4am posts on another thread, does that mean you're back on your usual schedule and more importantly over the Bleed Cubbie Flu? If so, welcome back to the land of the living...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 1, 2008 12:06 PM CST up reply actions

Thanks.

Yes, I was back at work today. Still not 100%, but up and going again. This flu was a NASTY strain. Check this article from today's Tribune.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2008 12:14 PM CST up reply actions

"reasonable"

well, i think that the part about players who have a "reasonable" chance of making the team could apply here. in that sense you have pie & fuld (battling it out for cf), cedeno (last year's starting ss), and soto. as a fan this doesn't make me feel ripped off at all. i think it'll be fun to see what we've got in the system. it seems kind of stupid to restrict this sort of thing. seeing the minor leaguers is part of the fun of spring training....

... though i do have to admit that i am excited to actually see fukudome at the plate tomorrow!

by anormal on Mar 1, 2008 12:30 PM CST up reply actions

True enough...

... though I thought it was supposed to be four starters, not just four players with a "reasonable" chance of making the roster. That's still a stretch.

I, too, like seeing some of these players during spring training. But in reality, there are only two (Pie and Soto) out of the expected starting eight, that are in today's lineup.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2008 12:56 PM CST up reply actions

Plesac....ugh...

The guy can't complete a sentence. He often rambles from one topic straight to the next without ever making a point.

But other than that...baseball is back on TV...HOORAY!!! :)

by Neifi Puppy on Mar 1, 2008 11:52 AM CST reply actions

Plesac is great

when I'm looking to take a nap. There is something about the way he rambles on a bit too long every time he opens his mouth with that slow, monotonous tone of his that I find to be delightfully soporific. If I had nothing to do this afternoon, I'd crack open a beer and stretch out on the couch, knowing that I'd be sleeping like a baby by the fourth inning. Damn obligations.

by Short4Fanatic on Mar 1, 2008 12:23 PM CST up reply actions

Yee haw!

Lineups be damned, I am glad to finally get the chance to watch some Cubs baseball. :)

Dave

by Dave in the basement on Mar 1, 2008 12:14 PM CST reply actions

3 regulars

Since Derosa is out for now, Fontenot is a regular in my book. Pie, Soto, Fontenot and Marquis isnt the star power I was hoping to see but its still Cubs baseball.

Is it March yet?

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Mar 1, 2008 12:23 PM CST reply actions

good point!

by anormal on Mar 1, 2008 12:31 PM CST up reply actions

The Cubs

would claim that Murton and Cedeno are regulars.

I'm not buying it either.

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh Timmers on Mar 1, 2008 1:12 PM CST reply actions

I'm hopeful th e Cubs consider Cedeno...

...a regular, but not optimistic.

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by cwyers on Mar 1, 2008 1:41 PM CST up reply actions

Getting ready to watch the game...

...and I'm reminded how much I hate these "Best Damn..." specials that CSN airs.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 1, 2008 1:43 PM CST reply actions

No one's forcing you to watch.

I'm turning the TV on at 2:00 sharp.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2008 1:56 PM CST up reply actions

Oh, and I'm eternally grateful...

...that' there's only one Bob Rohrman. I don't know what I'd do if there were two.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 1, 2008 1:57 PM CST up reply actions

That's a really scary thought.

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2008 2:00 PM CST up reply actions

Watching the game

At least you can watch. Over here in Europe we get our first game on Wednesday on NASN and of course it features the Yankees. After two of their games we get two Boston games. Then after two Cleveland games there is nothing for a week. Still I suppose it is only spring training and I should be grateful that I can see baseball during the season and that I can listen to the commentary over the internet.

by Stan Cox on Mar 1, 2008 2:04 PM CST up reply actions

Stan

at today's exchange rates, MLB.TV is cheaper than NASN, and you can watch all Cubs games (all MLB games). Of course, it's on a smaller screen....

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 1, 2008 2:06 PM CST up reply actions

MLB.tv

Actually, whinging apart. I prefer the radio commentary. Also If I didnt have NASN I couldnt see Baseball tonight, College football, PTI, Round the Horn etc etc

by Stan Cox on Mar 1, 2008 2:15 PM CST up reply actions

Anyone else on mlb.tv

and getting choppy video with normal audio?

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 1, 2008 2:03 PM CST reply actions

All fine here

Just a couple frame drops, but nothing out of normality. I am using the WMV feed instead of the Silverlight one though.

by Qixotl on Mar 1, 2008 2:05 PM CST up reply actions

Must be a problem

on my end. thanks.

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 1, 2008 2:07 PM CST up reply actions

Just switched to the WMV feed

Much better now!

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 1, 2008 2:11 PM CST up reply actions

Oh how I have missed you baseball!

I feel like dancing around like Sponge Bob singing "I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready!"

Go Cubbies!!!

"The only way to prove that you're a good sport is to lose." ~ Ernie Banks

by love the ivy on Mar 1, 2008 2:05 PM CST reply actions

Im suffering through gameday, so ....

I cant tell what is going on, but did Weaver just throw a 3-pitch inning?

by louslovechild on Mar 1, 2008 2:17 PM CST reply actions

During ST...

...Gameday only records the pitch where a hitor out is recorded.

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by cwyers on Mar 1, 2008 2:19 PM CST up reply actions

You know

that you can get the Angels radio feed on line for free, right?

Unless you've got sound card issues or are somewhere (like work) where you have to keep quiet, listen in.

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh Timmers on Mar 1, 2008 2:25 PM CST up reply actions

Soto showing of his arm!

and louslovechild, use gameday audio..its free today!

Live is boring until March 31st strolls by..

by Chanman25 on Mar 1, 2008 2:18 PM CST reply actions

Just Angels games

the Angels have screwed up their radio broadcasts (they've sold the time in the afternoon to right wing radio talkers like Michael Savage and can't pre-empt them) so all their spring training games are now free on the internet.

It's a girl! Born 1-18-08. 2246 PST. 8lbs. 1 oz.

by Josh Timmers on Mar 1, 2008 2:27 PM CST up reply actions

Nice throw by Soto

Its so nice to have a catcher that can actually throw out baserunners.

by Neifi Puppy on Mar 1, 2008 2:19 PM CST reply actions

gameday audio running pretty well

Live is boring until March 31st strolls by..

by Chanman25 on Mar 1, 2008 2:21 PM CST reply actions

That pop fly from Hoffpaiur...

...SOUNDED real good, at least.

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by cwyers on Mar 1, 2008 2:22 PM CST reply actions

Great at bat

by Murton

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 1, 2008 2:26 PM CST reply actions

Marquis is getting drilled

2 runs off 2 hits, and they are hitting the ball really well.

Live is boring until March 31st strolls by..

by Chanman25 on Mar 1, 2008 2:37 PM CST reply actions

yeah, he's getting hit pretty hard

but the anderson walk was questionable, a couple of close pitches, then hunter hit the center field wall

by dogcatratcheese on Mar 1, 2008 2:40 PM CST up reply actions

I'm just going by audio/gameday

so I have no idea how he is pitching

Live is boring until March 31st strolls by..

by Chanman25 on Mar 1, 2008 2:50 PM CST up reply actions

angels must be feeling pretty good

about getting Hunter

by dogcatratcheese on Mar 1, 2008 2:55 PM CST reply actions

ouch

Kerry...

Worst to First in 2007, brought to you by Lou, Sori, A-Ram and D-Lee.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 1, 2008 3:04 PM CST reply actions

i though wood looked pretty good

he gave up that home run, but the other hits were all bloop singles, awkward swings, his fastball got up to 96

by dogcatratcheese on Mar 1, 2008 3:06 PM CST reply actions

Wood looked great.

Spring training line scores are utterly meaningless. He had good stuff and was hitting his spots, which is all that matters.

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by cwyers on Mar 1, 2008 3:15 PM CST up reply actions

Err..."Great"?

Use use surpurlatives too easily.

I don't think he would say that.

Mediocre, would be appropriate. The announcers (including Pleisac), said the HR pitch had nothing on it and was left in the zone.

Hardly "great".

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 1, 2008 3:18 PM CST up reply actions

I'm allowed to have opinions.

And I was very impressed with Wood's stuff. Keep in mind that this is his first spring outing and adjust your expectations accordingly.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 1, 2008 3:19 PM CST up reply actions

Duly noted

You can have your opinion that Wood was "great" today.

But you're wrong. ;-)

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 1, 2008 3:21 PM CST up reply actions

The HR pitch...

... appeared to be left in the zone, as Plesac said. So Wood made one pitch where he didn't hit his spot. Otherwise I agree with cwyers -- he looked good, had good velocity, just didn't have his command on occasion.

A good first outing, I'd say.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2008 3:25 PM CST up reply actions

I'll go with that!

Good outing.

Especially for first time out.

I am more concerned that Marquis started where he left off in 2007.

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 1, 2008 3:30 PM CST up reply actions

Marquis was getting hit very well...

...sometimes there just happened to be fielders there. I wasn't impressed at all.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 1, 2008 3:48 PM CST up reply actions

Pitchout...

Cubs made a nice play. Cedeno applies the tag.

Cubs are out of the inning.

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 1, 2008 3:16 PM CST reply actions

The Angels are

really loaded.

I expected them to be in the World Series last year.

I expect the same this year.

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 1, 2008 3:19 PM CST reply actions

In 2007...

... the Angels were the best team in baseball not named "Red Sox". I too expected them to be a WS contender last year, and expect the same now.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2008 3:26 PM CST up reply actions

I'm sure you will

be in attendance for a couple Angels-Cubs games in AZ?

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 1, 2008 3:31 PM CST up reply actions

Absolutely!

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2008 4:28 PM CST up reply actions

CSNCH "games not available in your area"

Why would a spring training game like this be blacked out in Birmingham, AL?

The same thing happened yesterday with the St Louis & New York game.

by cpnkirk on Mar 1, 2008 3:40 PM CST reply actions

Hmmm...

Maybe all of the area bars in Birmingham protested forcing fans to flood the taverns there?

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 1, 2008 3:42 PM CST up reply actions

Murton 3 for 3!

GEEZ!

Man, I hope we can hang on to him as our insurance policy.

I have a strong feeling there will be an OF injury this year...

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 1, 2008 3:41 PM CST reply actions

CARMEN PIGNATIELLO!

Oh, my lucky day.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 1, 2008 3:48 PM CST reply actions

And a ground-ball to E-Patt!

At second!

This is better than I could have ever expected.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 1, 2008 3:51 PM CST up reply actions

Even better -

he didn't bobble the ball - or overthrow!

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 1, 2008 4:03 PM CST up reply actions

Murton

God I wish he could play 2b or cf.

"Eamus Catuli"--Marcus Tullius Cicero.

by 20yearsunder on Mar 1, 2008 3:49 PM CST reply actions

a somewhat typical game

leaving lots of runners on. I remember this. :P

Worst to First in 2007, brought to you by Lou, Sori, A-Ram and D-Lee.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 1, 2008 4:15 PM CST reply actions

who was the young man

striking out looking with bags jammed?

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 1, 2008 4:25 PM CST reply actions

That was Sam Fuld.

Despite what you may have heard, he's not very good at hitting. He also has an error in left field so far this spring.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 1, 2008 4:27 PM CST up reply actions

But but but

he ran into the ivy really hard. Does that not count for anything anymore?

by akcubfan on Mar 1, 2008 4:31 PM CST up reply actions

LOL!!

In the early going - it would appear as if Pie has the lead, "going into the first turn...".

Fuld is 0-fer so far (it is early goin', though)

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 1, 2008 4:35 PM CST up reply actions

pie update

i cant find a box score, anyone have a rundown of what pie did in his ab's?

Bill James Felix Pie 2008 Projection: .283/.333/.456 16 HR 21 SB

by kylejo on Mar 1, 2008 4:32 PM CST reply actions

Struck out once.

n/t

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by cwyers on Mar 1, 2008 4:33 PM CST up reply actions

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