Open Thread: Cubs vs. Angels, Friday 3/14, 3:05 CT

by Al on Mar 14, 2008 12:21 PM CDT in Game Threads Comment 216 comments

SCOTTSDALE, Arizona -- Heading out to Mesa soon, so just a few notes for this afternoon's game:

You can discuss The Trade That Shall Not Be Named in this BCB diary. Although, it was already summed up by one commenter, who said the new rumor is "total nonsense".
Bruce Miles grilled Lou Piniella about the recent lineup changes and got him to admit that he's still tinkering:
Piniella did his best Thursday to say these changes aren't necessarily permanent.
"I didn't say it was permanent yesterday," he said. "I wanted to take a look at it. I think the big thing is it gives Soriano more time to get his legs stronger. Out of the leadoff hole, you've got to be able to run. He's about 80-85 percent, coming along fine. We don't have to rush him."
The Cactus League is doing fine financially again this year; the Cubs are on track to possibly set a record for average attendance.

Lineups, as always courtesy Bruce Miles:

Ryan Dempster starts today for the Cubs. He will face the Angels' Ervin Santana. All of the Angels' spring games are on radio in Los Angeles this year, so you can hear it via the MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday (and yes, this is the correct link. Yesterday, I put "Seattle" in there instead of "San Diego". Thankfully, someone posted the right link in the comments.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Why is it that Lou always tries...

...the funky fielding experiments on days the Cubs aren't on TV?

If only there was somewhere to play E-Pat, I really like the idea of him leading off more than Theriot.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 14, 2008 12:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

If only.

I'm guessing he's starting there because he's in competition with Sam Fuld for the 25th man spot on the roster.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 14, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

re: Why is it that Lou always tries...

Funny you should mention TV, because I think the game is on TV -- at least here in the Chicago area on CSN. I express doubt, however, because even though this PDF on the Cubs Web site and CSN's Web site indicate the game will be televised, the "guide" on my cable box does not have the game listed among the upcoming programs on CSN. Can anyone out there clarify?

I'm really hoping the game is televised because I happen to be "working from home" today. (And, yes, honesty compels me to always put that phrase in quotes.)

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 14, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

my TV guide

for the Dish network says "Women's College Basketball" and then some other show between 2 and 4 pm.

Worst to First in 2007, brought to you by Lou, Sori, A-Ram and D-Lee.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 14, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

re: my TV guide

Yeah, that's what's on Comcast, too. Really sucks. Got my hopes up there for a second or two.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 14, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought it was deja vu all over again...

...when I saw Patterson in center and leading off, and my heart stopped for a couple of seconds. Then I remembered it's Eric Patterson and that there's virtually no danger of that happening during the regular season.

by Mike Vails Evil Twin on Mar 14, 2008 12:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Don't take this the wrong way...

...or read too much into this, but I think that Eric Patterson is probably the type of hitter that the Cubs wish Felix Pie was. He does certain kinds of things well - takes his walks, bunts well, steals bases, and puts the ball on the ground to take advantage of his speed.

Again, it's something to note, but don't put too much stock into it.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 14, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not really down on Patterson

It was just the shock of seeing that name in that particular line-up context.

I haven't seen enough of him to form much of an opinion, although his AAA numbers are certainly good for whatever that's worth. If he turns out to be a great player who can help the Cubs I'm all for it.

by Mike Vails Evil Twin on Mar 14, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

E-Pat doesn't hit well enough...

...to hold down any of the corners, and the jury's still out at whether or not he can play defense up the middle well enough to stick with a team. (Okay, well the jury's come back with a decision, but I'm appealing.)

It doesn't matter so much, because I don't think there's a spot for him on the team outside of maybe the 25th man on the roster.

But he's far more suited to leading off than Pie is - they've tried batting Pie leadoff a few times in spring training so far, and it mystifies me every time.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 14, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pie leading off

I wonder if Lou was just trying to get him a few extra ABs by batting him there. Not a bad idea if it doesn't mess him up by making him think too much at the plate.

by Mike Vails Evil Twin on Mar 14, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Felix Pie's game...

...is very similar to Jacque Jones's. That's probably going to freak out more people than it really should - Jones is one of those players that has really been misvalued throughout his entire career. (Blame Torii Hunter).

So when I say that, I don't want people thinking that I don't like Pie, or don't like him as a hitter. But I see the Cubs, in their own way, miscasting Pie, and it bothers me.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 14, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pie reminds me

of Curtis Granderson actually. I think both have 30 SB potential, both are going to strike out 120-130 times, both will have trouble against LH pitchers. Both guys also have to hit around 300 to have a 350 plus OBP.

by cubsfan25 on Mar 14, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Its Spring Training...

...let him get his AB's, he needs them.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Mar 14, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

I think Patterson (unless traded) gets called up when one of the starters gets injured and he plays the role in '08 that Fontentot played in '07, only he plays it better. Patterson is excellent depth to have stocked in AAA.

Soriano must leadoff... to provide adequate protection for Big Z!

by DGU on Mar 14, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Patterson CF"

AAAHhhhh!!! I completely freaked as well. Very funny.

"I don't see where plate discipline becomes a tool" - Cubs Assistant GM Gary Hughes

by Jobu on Mar 14, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

patterson cf!!

aah...oh wait nevermind..

Live is boring until March 31st strolls by..

by Chanman25 on Mar 14, 2008 12:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

CF -- Patterson ???

In reality, that Patterson actually did lead off ( went 0 for 3 ) for Crusty's Reds yesterday. His late inning replacement was none other than Jerry Hairston. Oh, by the way, -- Bako was the catcher.

Some things never change.

by ceegeewow on Mar 14, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The winter of patience....

The protracted sale of the ballclub
The protracted courtship of Kosuke Fukudome
The protracted love affair with Brian Roberts

It's been both a satisfying and excruciating offseason. Nothing happens quickly.

by MDBNIU on Mar 14, 2008 12:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

At this point, I agree with Raymond Chandler

"Alcohol is like love. The first kiss is magic, the second is intimate, the third is routine. After that you take the girl's clothes off."

The Cubs seem to have some problem with that last part, when it comes to Roberts.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 14, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I Think It's Best...

...that I leave this one alone...

;-)

Jacque Jones is gone and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!

by initram on Mar 14, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gameday link

It's not up yet...but I think your URL should have 3-14 in it rather than 3-13 if it is going to work properly

by berselius on Mar 14, 2008 1:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

It's up

This link works: http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/y2007/gd.html?2008_03_14_anamlb_chnmlb_1&brand=mlb

by berselius on Mar 14, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks.

Maybe tomorrow I'll get it right!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 14, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why not Soto?

Does anyone know why Soto is not in the lineup?
Scheduled day off?

by Gucci on Mar 14, 2008 3:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Presumably.

n/t

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by cwyers on Mar 14, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good start

Patterson walks.
Sori doubles (rbi)

"I am a Cubs fan, but I needed an American League team...so as a young girl, I became very interested and enamored of the Yankees." Senator Hillary Clinton

by ExNorthsider on Mar 14, 2008 3:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

waitaminute

Did Dempster just have a 3 pitch inning?

by cubsonWGN4ever on Mar 14, 2008 3:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I doubt it

I think we're getting the minimalist version of GameDay today.

by akcubfan on Mar 14, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

gameday

isnt even working anymore and im hearing impaired so no radio for me unless someone figures out how to put closed captions on radio broadcasts. :)

My kingdom for a (relatively decent) play by play.

by cubsonWGN4ever on Mar 14, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I tuned in on the radio about half way

through the bottom of the inning.

I think it went Theriot Walk, Sori double, not sure with Lee or Ramirez but it was 2-0 Cubs after they batted. Dome grounded into FC, Derosa and Cintron popped out.

by akcubfan on Mar 14, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oops, Patterson I guess, not Theriot

by akcubfan on Mar 14, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

thanks!

n/t

by cubsonWGN4ever on Mar 14, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

3-0 Cubs

Lee scored on Fukudome FC

by akcubfan on Mar 14, 2008 3:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Love how Dome...

...legs out those ground balls.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 14, 2008 3:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Free Radio!!

I clicked to the listen live link on Gameday and instead of getting the subscription page, I'm listening to SORIANO SCORES, CUBS 2-0!!

HOORAY FOR FRIDAY!!

I was thinking about paying, too. Just gameday was getting on my nerves. I can't wait til all games are available on 720.

"Trapled moss on your souls; changes all you're a part; seen it all, not at all; can't defend a (Cubs fan)"- pearl jam

by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 3:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Thanks

for the tip, I have free radio too, this is a great friday!!

by gwood on Mar 14, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes!

let's hope they don't catch on...

by Gucci on Mar 14, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

aren't all ST games free?

I thought that was the norm. Sort of a little preview for what MLB gameday is (not sure why they would let you hear the terrible lag and bad audio quality as an incentive for purchase) But I always thought it was usually free until the season started.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Mar 14, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought that, too.

But, I've tried 2-3 times in the last week and get directed to the subscription page for gameaudio and mlbtv.

The gamedayaudio is ~$40 for the season, but that ain't worth it for me for less than a month.

"Trapled moss on your souls; changes all you're a part; seen it all, not at all; can't defend a (Cubs fan)"- pearl jam

by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

GamedayAudio = $15 for the season

Not $40. Here's the link so you can see for yourself.http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/subscriptions/gameday_audio.jsp?c_id=mlb

Take me out to the ballgame, take me out to the crowd...

by bluesweatergirl on Mar 14, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for the legwork...

That's better than I thought and worth it if we're scoreboard watching in september.

"Trapled moss on your souls; changes all you're a part; seen it all, not at all; can't defend a (Cubs fan)"- pearl jam

by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The reason it was free today....

.. is that all the Angels games are being given away free on MLB audio. You'll have another one on Sunday.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 14, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kotchman GB to Demp

throwing error on the throw to first. Triple over Soriano's head by Napoli. 3-1 Cubs

by akcubfan on Mar 14, 2008 3:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Brown hustle double, close play at 2nd

3-2 Cubs.

by akcubfan on Mar 14, 2008 3:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Dempster

Just like old times.
4-3

"I am a Cubs fan, but I needed an American League team...so as a young girl, I became very interested and enamored of the Yankees." Senator Hillary Clinton

by ExNorthsider on Mar 14, 2008 3:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

demp is definitely having a bad inning

ouch

AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike on Mar 14, 2008 3:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

HR for somebody

4-3 Angels. Still no outs

by akcubfan on Mar 14, 2008 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Demp's

falling apart after his error.

by gwood on Mar 14, 2008 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Dusty bats Corey P LEADOFF

I mean-------------------WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Mar 14, 2008 3:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Not to sound blunt but....

WHO CARES?

"In all the categories that you pay the most attention to, except the loss column, we're doing very well" - Jim Hendry

by Jayo525 on Mar 14, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not to be blunt

But the mans an idiot.

Ha, I dont know why I care. Anything that is CUB even EX-CUB i tend to follow closely.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Mar 14, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dempster

I wonder what his velocity is.
With his lack of command, if he can't throw 90-92 consistently in any given start, he's going to get destroyed.

"I am a Cubs fan, but I needed an American League team...so as a young girl, I became very interested and enamored of the Yankees." Senator Hillary Clinton

by ExNorthsider on Mar 14, 2008 3:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Decisions...

I wonder how a bad outing will affect Dempsters' chances of making the starting rotation?

by Gucci on Mar 14, 2008 3:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

If Dempster

doesn't get his act together, he's going to lose that starter spot to Marquis pretty quick.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Mar 14, 2008 3:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

GOOD!!!!!

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Mar 14, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good point

Marquis has the big salary and tends to have good stuff pre-allstar break. Pitch him for 15 starts and then trade him.

As for Dempster, I'm not really sure what to do with him. Would some other team take him as a Closer at this point? Could be a good move.

"I am a Cubs fan, but I needed an American League team...so as a young girl, I became very interested and enamored of the Yankees." Senator Hillary Clinton

by ExNorthsider on Mar 14, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would think

one of them has to go. Word has been lately scouts have been looking at Marquis as of late...but now it seems like it might not be so great to get us stuck into a situation with no option but Demp.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Mar 14, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ground Rule Double

by akcubfan on Mar 14, 2008 3:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Santana bunt to pitcher

FC throw to third. Runner on first. One out.

by akcubfan on Mar 14, 2008 3:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I was supposed to be there

But due to my upcoming operation I had to cancel my trip.

If you read this please include my friend Heather and my friend's mom Karen in your prayers. If you want to hear more email me.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Mar 14, 2008 3:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Walk. Runners on first and second

can hear a few people booing on the radio broadcast...boy thats rough to get booed in spring training.

by akcubfan on Mar 14, 2008 3:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

and now another triple

Dempster is toast

"I am a Cubs fan, but I needed an American League team...so as a young girl, I became very interested and enamored of the Yankees." Senator Hillary Clinton

by ExNorthsider on Mar 14, 2008 3:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I love toast.

i just wish i loved dempster as much.

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Mar 14, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right

A bad spring training start means he's toast.

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by cubstoseriesby100 on Mar 14, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well I agree

But 6 runs in the first inning does not help

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Mar 14, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know, i know

I'm not saying he's done because of today, but as of right now he's being outperformed in the spring by Marquis, which means he could be toast by way of being on the team...

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Mar 14, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually Demp had a very good first inning

its the 2nd that he gave up all the runs

by akcubfan on Mar 14, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

right, but...

Marquis hasn't had any blowout innings so far this spring (as much as i've followed) last I saw his ERA was in the mid 2's

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Mar 14, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

granted

his attitude is anything but stellar

In the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity - Einstein

by cubbieblue86 on Mar 14, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Last week

Last week when he pitched great were you posting he was great?

A typical 4th or 5th starter in a season will pitch well about 2/3rds of the time at best.

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by cubstoseriesby100 on Mar 14, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

True

I don't remember what I posted last week, but I've never been much of a Dempster fan. These Hendry reclamation projects are just that-- projects. Dempster just doesn't have very good stuff-- it's not like he's throwing bullets and just can't find the plate.

"I am a Cubs fan, but I needed an American League team...so as a young girl, I became very interested and enamored of the Yankees." Senator Hillary Clinton

by ExNorthsider on Mar 14, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Huh

With all due respect Demspter does have good 'stuff' if only he could control it.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Mar 14, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Still

He has allowed more hits than IP in his career and his k/bb ratio has never been great. His numbers don't indicate 'great stuff.'

"I am a Cubs fan, but I needed an American League team...so as a young girl, I became very interested and enamored of the Yankees." Senator Hillary Clinton

by ExNorthsider on Mar 14, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Stuff and performance are different things...

Dempster has good stuff, but terrible command. As you've noted, he's never done well at avoiding hits, and he's never done well at avoiding walks. He has generally done well at getting Ks (an indication of his stuff), but the hits and walks indicate he has trouble hitting his spots (an indication of poor command).

by SouthernCub on Mar 14, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Stuff v. Command

Interesting.

So does having good "stuff" mean the pitches have good movement and velocity, and good "command" means the pitcher can throw strikes on the black of the plate?

It would be interesting to gather a list of pitchers who had good "stuff" and were able to gain "command" at some point in their career. Dempster is 30 or 31 years old-- he's been trying to gain command for a decade, so it's not too promising at this point.

"I am a Cubs fan, but I needed an American League team...so as a young girl, I became very interested and enamored of the Yankees." Senator Hillary Clinton

by ExNorthsider on Mar 14, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Basically.

"Stuff" is how your pitches move, how fast they are, how they set up your other pitches, etc. "Command" is being able to locate the pitch where you want to - not necessarily throwing strikes, but most of the time that's what it means.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 14, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Therefore

Greg Maddux is the man

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Mar 14, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pretty much...

cwyers did a good job of defining the two. But yeah, it is unlikely at this point that Dempster will develop good command. He's been around the majors for far too long to assume he'll suddenly figure out command.

In terms of guys who had good stuff and were eventually able to figure it out and gain command, Randy Johnson is pretty much the poster child for that.

by SouthernCub on Mar 14, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

In general...

...players who develop command late tend to rely on extreme breaking pitches (like a difficult curveball, or a knuckleball), or a left-hander. Now, you have a tendency for lefthanders to rely on breaking pitches more, so I don't know which tends to be driving this here.

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by cwyers on Mar 14, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Line drive triple to rightcenter

2 runs score. 6-3 Angels

by akcubfan on Mar 14, 2008 3:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Whats the gameday link, the main page doesnt work

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Mar 14, 2008 3:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Change the 13 to a 14 in the URL

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And if you can listen,

Gameday audio is free today.

"Trapled moss on your souls; changes all you're a part; seen it all, not at all; can't defend a (Cubs fan)"- pearl jam

by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

gracias

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Mar 14, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Vlad K swinging

by akcubfan on Mar 14, 2008 3:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Demster's going for the award.

And I thought Zito had the BAD INNING OF THE MONTH award locked up.

"Trapled moss on your souls; changes all you're a part; seen it all, not at all; can't defend a (Cubs fan)"- pearl jam

by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Dempster,Lieber or Marquis

Lieber is in for sure. Question I have is.........who's a better bet to win 10-14 games......and give them 190-210 innings in 08?

Certainly not a Jason Marquis fan club member but.......he does have a track record of good 1st halfs and he will take the ball every 5 days.The bet here is he's the 4th or 5th starter.I thought Dempster was undervalued as a closer........but as a starter I got no faith. It's been 5 or 6 years since he has had success in that role

by plenz on Mar 14, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Love the fact that Fukudome is only hitting .259

but still has a .432 OBP and more BBs than Ks. Granted small sample size and I would hope he would hit more around .275 at least, but this is very good.

by IllinoisCubs on Mar 14, 2008 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Hmm

Dempster's last quality start was on April 21, 2005. So why is he being given such a long look for the rotation 3 yrs later? Odd.

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by ExNorthsider on Mar 14, 2008 3:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Well

Well he's been a closer for 3 years. He was made a closer because that's what they needed him to do.

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by cubstoseriesby100 on Mar 14, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

uh...

haven't you been paying attention... dude's been working VERY hard to get back into the starting lineup. And, unlike Marquis, he has a GREAT attitude.

Even Z -- even Clemens -- has bad days. Better now, when it doesn't matter, then September...

Worst to First in 2007, brought to you by Lou, Sori, A-Ram and D-Lee.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 14, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha!

i think i was at that game. lost to the padres 1-0 right?

by anormal on Mar 14, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

this definately raises eyebrows

but I'm thinking:

its against one of the better offenses in the AL
its only 1 game
Dempster will get one or two more oppurtunies to redeem himself

Live is boring until March 31st strolls by..

by Chanman25 on Mar 14, 2008 3:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

wuertz 3pitch K

kept bat on shoulder. two out

error kendrick, e.pat safe @ first

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 3:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I would imagine he was told to just stand there.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Mar 14, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe they said, "Try not to get hit,"

and he heard, "Try not to get a hit"

"Trapled moss on your souls; changes all you're a part; seen it all, not at all; can't defend a (Cubs fan)"- pearl jam

by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Patterson GB off Kendrick's glove

Error. Patterson on first

by akcubfan on Mar 14, 2008 3:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The 6th sign?

Are we seeing the 6th sign of Armageddon? All this love for Jason Marquis?

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by cubstoseriesby100 on Mar 14, 2008 3:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Many choices

As someone above said, it's the 5th starter, so we can't expect superior consistent performance.

Dempster-- hasn't been an effective starter in 5 years; was good as Closer, helped the team. Good guy.

Marquis-- performs well in first half of season, usually. Competitor, but perhaps a bit selfish. Can only expect him to be equal to or worse than last few years.

Marshall-- lefty, had some very poor outings last year. Young, could pitch better (at least has some promise)

???

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by ExNorthsider on Mar 14, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

EPat swipes 2nd

by akcubfan on Mar 14, 2008 3:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

swinging k for Soriano. 3 out

by akcubfan on Mar 14, 2008 3:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

To bring some perspective to Dempster's outing...

...you have to understand that a triple doesn't necessarily mean what you think it means. In "real baseball," in this case the National League in 2007, there's a triple roughly every two-hundred at-bats. In the Arizona Fall League, there's a triple roughly every one-hundred at-bats. It's like they're playing baseball on Mars - the rate of triples is nearly double what it is once you move into the regular season. And that's just one example.

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by cwyers on Mar 14, 2008 4:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

wuertz give up leadoff hit

then strikes out side.

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wuertz

I love him and I think he is a forgotten guy occasionally. Fact is, when his slider is on hes nasty.

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by Hammer on Mar 14, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

D LEE

6-3 go

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

A Ram

HPB
"Not too happy about it"
left shoulder blade area

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Dome

6 po
2 out

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

De Ro

GRD
over the RF wall

2nd and 3rd

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Cintron

4-3 go
end of 3rd

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wood on

m. izturiz out 6-3

Ramierez still in game, diving stop

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Howie Kendrick

3 pitch K

Woodie sounds like he's on

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Kerry Wood, ladies and gentlemen.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 14, 2008 4:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Bad Vlad

flyed to Epat in center

quick half inning

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Hank White

K looking

Fuld batting for woodie

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Little Sammy

3-1 go

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

E Pat

K swinging.

End of 4

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Kerry

You guys know I love Kerry to pieces. I'm just afraid to get too excited about this.

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by cubstoseriesby100 on Mar 14, 2008 4:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Liebs on

First batter fouls out to soriano.

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Who's pitching now?

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by McRipper on Mar 14, 2008 4:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Napoli

6-3 go
2out

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Lieber 1-2-3 inning

Kotch grounds out

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Sorry, wrong batter

missed it. d. brown maybe.

I'm very excited about having Lieber on the staff. As a ballpark worker, it's wonderful to have a quick pitcher like Lieber or maddux. Hopefully Jon'll pitch all night games before day games.

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lieber

Lieber has impressed this spring. I'm happy to see this.

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by cubstoseriesby100 on Mar 14, 2008 4:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Soriano

6-3 ground out

w00d to kotchman

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

D Lee

OFF the wall.

STAND UP TRIPLE!!

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

A Ram

3 pitch K.

Ball gets by Napoli
D LEE SCORES!!

A Ram thrown out at first.

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Dome

grounds out to first.

End of inning,
Cubs 4,
Halos 6

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lee!

Triple, then home on a wild pitch!

I bet he just raised his batting average...

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by drewishdrewid on Mar 14, 2008 4:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Seems like this announcer is blaming

every Cubs hit on the wind.

DLee has the power to get the ball to the wall without the wind.

Dlee now with 2 xtra base hits.

Big Z's no hitter vs Astros coming soon, April 6.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Mar 14, 2008 4:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Lieber returns

McGehee on at third, a ram out.

Brandon wood gapper in left center-- lead off double

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

nate haines

ground out to second, 4-3

runner to 3rd

Santana lifted for PH

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

NICE double play!

Go Cintron!

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by drewishdrewid on Mar 14, 2008 4:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Cintron

Anyone else think he might wind up being a good pickup?

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by cubstoseriesby100 on Mar 14, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's smarter than Cedeno

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

PH kendrie morales

liner to cintron CAUGHT!!

RUNNER @ THIRD BREAKING FOR PLATE DOUBLED OFF!

3 out

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

uh-oh

Cintron just got hit near the face by a foul ball. he's down.

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by drewishdrewid on Mar 14, 2008 4:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

ow.

that sounded like it hurt

by cubs ftw on Mar 14, 2008 4:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

O'Day on for angels

DeRo at the plate.

BAD: Cintron hit by foul ball in on deck circle.
"Hit near face. Down face first and not moving around. Trainer bringing out a towel."

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

OMG

I liked Cintron. Hope he's gonna be OK.

Fontenot is taking his place now.

by zevkalman on Mar 14, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Was it on the fly or the bounce?

n/t

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 14, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

On the fly

Sounded like a liner to the face

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's awful.

I hate to even think about it, but something similar happened last season to Juan Encarnacion, and it could be his career. I hope it turns out better for Cintron - hell, I hope it turns out better for Encarnacion.

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by cwyers on Mar 14, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think I heard a line drive

Cintron wasn't facing the batter, and taking his swings, and the ball hit him square in the face.

BTW, Lieber got a hit just now.

by zevkalman on Mar 14, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fonty taking cintrons place on deck

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

DeRo probably struck out

'cause he can't concentrate after that accident to Cintron.

by zevkalman on Mar 14, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

De Ro

K swinging.

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Fonty

Fly out to center

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

HANK WHITE

HOME RUN!!

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Blanco HR!

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by drewishdrewid on Mar 14, 2008 4:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

A homerun for Blanco

by cubs ftw on Mar 14, 2008 4:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

HR!!!

Blanco goes deep!!

Big Z's no hitter vs Astros coming soon, April 6.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Mar 14, 2008 4:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Lieber batting

base hit to left

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Lieber's on!

Can ePatt do something...

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by drewishdrewid on Mar 14, 2008 4:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

A two out single for Lieber

by cubs ftw on Mar 14, 2008 4:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

ePatt single

As they said on the radio, when you talk about a Base-to-base runner, that's John Lieber... :P

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by drewishdrewid on Mar 14, 2008 4:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

EPat is 1-3

base hit to right side

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

What's the score?

By the way, love the sig.

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by McRipper on Mar 14, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eric Patterson just got a hit

He seems like a scrappy infielder, just like Theriot :-).

First and second, with two out.

I wish the Angels announcers could be more fluent.

by zevkalman on Mar 14, 2008 4:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

theriot

has a better alarm clock, I think...

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by drewishdrewid on Mar 14, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL !

That made laugh...

by zevkalman on Mar 14, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

or

less women.

by xene on Mar 14, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're baiting me, aren't you.

n/t

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 14, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How can you tell :-)

n/t

by zevkalman on Mar 14, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eric Patterson is one of my long-time...

...touts from the minors; it looks like either I was overoptimistic or the Cubs don't know what they have with him. Ellifiknow at this point.

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by cwyers on Mar 14, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Santo sign

Someone out in Mesa needs to get a pic of the "No, I Don't Know Where Ron Santo Is" sign on the visiting radio booth window.

by Mills on Mar 14, 2008 4:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Sori K swinging

End of inning
Cubs 5, halos 6

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Lieber back.

Kroeger in for Soriano (1-4, 2b, RBI, R)

Isturiz K for angels

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Lieber just doesn't walk people...

Lou loves strike machines. Barring injury, I don't see how Lieber doesn't earn a spot in the starting rotation.

by SouthernCub on Mar 14, 2008 4:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm inclined to think so also...

...but what is to be done about Dempster?

I actually like the guy, but I suspect Lou didn't like what he saw today.

by zevkalman on Mar 14, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed...

I think Lou liked the idea of Dempster winning the job, Lieber winning the job, and Marquis disappearing. Now, I think he's forced to choose between Marquis (who I don't think he likes) and Dempster (who has a problem with command).

by SouthernCub on Mar 14, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know...

if you look at Demp vs. Marquis over the course of ST so far, I think Demp is clearly better.

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by drewishdrewid on Mar 14, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I disagree...

Prior to today:

Marquis:
9 IP, 9 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 0 HR, 0 HBP, 4 BB, 3 K, 2.00 ERA

Dempster:
9 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 HR, 2 HBP, 4 BB, 5 K, 3.00 ERA

Prior to today, Dempster is SLIGHTLY better, albeit in a small sample size.

After today:
Dempster:
10.2 IP, 10 H, 9 R, 8 ER, 2 HR, 2 HBP, 6 BB, 6 K, 6.75 ERA

As of now, Marquis has clearly had the better spring. Again, in a small sample size.

by SouthernCub on Mar 14, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually...

Prior to today...

Prior:
0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 HR, 0 HBP, 0 BB, 0 K, 0.00 ERA, 19 TWLDRL

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 14, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And almost as soon as I type this...

Lieber gives up his first walk. Oy, the jinx gods.

by SouthernCub on Mar 14, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Howie Kendrick three pitch K

Lieber retired 10 of 11

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Lieber showing

he can go long. that's good.

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by drewishdrewid on Mar 14, 2008 4:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Bourjos H thru middle of the infield

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 4:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Pettit BB

1st and 2nd, 2 out

Great to here "OLD STYLE HERE" from the stands. gettin on last call

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 5:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Napoli K looking

on to bottom of 7

Liebs strikes out side

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 5:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

hey!

That was excellent to hear! The stretch!

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by drewishdrewid on Mar 14, 2008 5:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Lieber K's the side

Singin take me out to the ballgame.

That sounds good.

Big Z's no hitter vs Astros coming soon, April 6.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Mar 14, 2008 5:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

D Lee K swinging

O'Day back for halos

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 5:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

McGehee pops out to shallow right

"Trapled moss on your souls; changes all you're a part; seen it all, not at all; can't defend a (Cubs fan)"- pearl jam

by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 5:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Dome out 3-1 ground out.

onto the 8th
cubs 6, halos 5

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 5:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Lieber's back!

The adorable red-head in for Fuku.

Game: Lieber to Dee brown, ground out to first

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 5:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

B. wood grounds out 6-3

2 out

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 5:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Leiber goes five,

doesn't allow a single run.

Not freakin' bad.

Worst to First in 2007, brought to you by Lou, Sori, A-Ram and D-Lee.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 14, 2008 5:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Aybar (in for haines), grounds to first

"Lieber might crack starting rotation"
Liebs goes 5

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 5:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

someone tell the announcers

It's terr-ee-oh, not tear-ee-oh...

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by drewishdrewid on Mar 14, 2008 5:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I think that

you can lock Lieber onto the third spot.

Demps and Marquis will go down to their last appearance.

Lookin way ahead, Im still hoping to get an ace type starter in July.

Big Z's no hitter vs Astros coming soon, April 6.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Mar 14, 2008 5:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Rich Thompson on for Halos

The Riot, hitting in DeRo's spot, grounds to third 5-3

"Trapled moss on your souls; changes all you're a part; seen it all, not at all; can't defend a (Cubs fan)"- pearl jam

by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 5:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Fonty taps to short, 6-3 on close play

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 5:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

1-2-3

flyball to outfield caught (Hank White?)

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 5:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ascaino on.

Might be tough to come back in bot. 9

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 5:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Morales K swinging

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 5:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

M. Izturis H to center

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Rodrieguiz flys out to Kroeger

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by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Asciano doesn't completely stink

bottom of the ninth. Time to do it to it.

Worst to First in 2007, brought to you by Lou, Sori, A-Ram and D-Lee.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 14, 2008 5:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Peter Bourjos pops to McGehee

3 outs left

"Trapled moss on your souls; changes all you're a part; seen it all, not at all; can't defend a (Cubs fan)"- pearl jam

by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 5:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Get your rally caps

time to win this thing.

Whos gonna get the walk off.

Big Z's no hitter vs Astros coming soon, April 6.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Mar 14, 2008 5:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

cmon DWARLE!

Worst to First in 2007, brought to you by Lou, Sori, A-Ram and D-Lee.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 14, 2008 5:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

DWard.....

not helping

Big Z's no hitter vs Astros coming soon, April 6.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Mar 14, 2008 5:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Another good day for Patterson...

for what little spring is worth, Patterson has had a nice spring.

by SouthernCub on Mar 14, 2008 5:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Way to go

EPatt

Big Z's no hitter vs Astros coming soon, April 6.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Mar 14, 2008 5:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Kroeger

wait for the mistake pitch.

Big Z's no hitter vs Astros coming soon, April 6.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Mar 14, 2008 5:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The HOFF

on deck

NO DP

Big Z's no hitter vs Astros coming soon, April 6.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Mar 14, 2008 5:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

lots of attention to patterson at first

patterson thrown out at 2nd stealing

"Trapled moss on your souls; changes all you're a part; seen it all, not at all; can't defend a (Cubs fan)"- pearl jam

by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 5:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

ePatt out

stealing. Gah.

Worst to First in 2007, brought to you by Lou, Sori, A-Ram and D-Lee.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 14, 2008 5:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Epatt

LATE to second base.

Big Z's no hitter vs Astros coming soon, April 6.

by Me and Lou WS 07 on Mar 14, 2008 5:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Kroeger K looking

Game over.

"Trapled moss on your souls; changes all you're a part; seen it all, not at all; can't defend a (Cubs fan)"- pearl jam

by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 5:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

that's it.

game over, man, game over!

On the other hand, it's not like they beat us up and down the bullpen. Woody, Lieber, both pitched well.

Sigh.

Worst to First in 2007, brought to you by Lou, Sori, A-Ram and D-Lee.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 14, 2008 5:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Best heath wishes to

Cintron, cubstoseriesby100, and all of BCB

"Trapled moss on your souls; changes all you're a part; seen it all, not at all; can't defend a (Cubs fan)"- pearl jam

by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 5:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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