Open Thread: Cubs vs. Angels, Friday 3/14, 3:05 CT
SCOTTSDALE, Arizona -- Heading out to Mesa soon, so just a few notes for this afternoon's game:
- You can discuss The Trade That Shall Not Be Named in this BCB diary. Although, it was already summed up by one commenter, who said the new rumor is "total nonsense".
- Bruce Miles grilled Lou Piniella about the recent lineup changes and got him to admit that he's still tinkering:
Piniella did his best Thursday to say these changes aren't necessarily permanent.
"I didn't say it was permanent yesterday," he said. "I wanted to take a look at it. I think the big thing is it gives Soriano more time to get his legs stronger. Out of the leadoff hole, you've got to be able to run. He's about 80-85 percent, coming along fine. We don't have to rush him."
- The Cactus League is doing fine financially again this year; the Cubs are on track to possibly set a record for average attendance.
Lineups, as always courtesy Bruce Miles:

Ryan Dempster starts today for the Cubs. He will face the Angels' Ervin Santana. All of the Angels' spring games are on radio in Los Angeles this year, so you can hear it via the MLB.com Mediacenter.
MLB.com Gameday (and yes, this is the correct link. Yesterday, I put "Seattle" in there instead of "San Diego". Thankfully, someone posted the right link in the comments.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Why is it that Lou always tries...
If only there was somewhere to play E-Pat, I really like the idea of him leading off more than Theriot.
by cwyers on Mar 14, 2008 12:24 PM CDT 0 recs
If only.
by Al on
Mar 14, 2008 12:28 PM CDT
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re: Why is it that Lou always tries...
I'm really hoping the game is televised because I happen to be "working from home" today. (And, yes, honesty compels me to always put that phrase in quotes.)
by dat cubfan daver on
Mar 14, 2008 1:02 PM CDT
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my TV guide
by drewishdrewid on
Mar 14, 2008 2:04 PM CDT
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re: my TV guide
by dat cubfan daver on
Mar 14, 2008 3:15 PM CDT
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I thought it was deja vu all over again...
by Mike Vails Evil Twin on Mar 14, 2008 12:26 PM CDT 0 recs
Don't take this the wrong way...
Again, it's something to note, but don't put too much stock into it.
by cwyers on
Mar 14, 2008 12:35 PM CDT
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I'm not really down on Patterson
I haven't seen enough of him to form much of an opinion, although his AAA numbers are certainly good for whatever that's worth. If he turns out to be a great player who can help the Cubs I'm all for it.
by Mike Vails Evil Twin on
Mar 14, 2008 12:41 PM CDT
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E-Pat doesn't hit well enough...
It doesn't matter so much, because I don't think there's a spot for him on the team outside of maybe the 25th man on the roster.
But he's far more suited to leading off than Pie is - they've tried batting Pie leadoff a few times in spring training so far, and it mystifies me every time.
by cwyers on
Mar 14, 2008 12:44 PM CDT
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Pie leading off
by Mike Vails Evil Twin on
Mar 14, 2008 12:48 PM CDT
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I think Felix Pie's game...
So when I say that, I don't want people thinking that I don't like Pie, or don't like him as a hitter. But I see the Cubs, in their own way, miscasting Pie, and it bothers me.
by cwyers on
Mar 14, 2008 12:57 PM CDT
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Pie reminds me
by cubsfan25 on
Mar 14, 2008 3:35 PM CDT
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Its Spring Training...
by MPH73 on
Mar 14, 2008 1:15 PM CDT
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I agree
by DGU on
Mar 14, 2008 1:11 PM CDT
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"Patterson CF"
by Jobu on
Mar 14, 2008 12:52 PM CDT
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patterson cf!!
by Chanman25 on Mar 14, 2008 12:43 PM CDT 0 recs
CF -- Patterson ???
Some things never change.
by ceegeewow on
Mar 14, 2008 3:10 PM CDT
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The winter of patience....
- The protracted sale of the ballclub
- The protracted courtship of Kosuke Fukudome
- The protracted love affair with Brian Roberts
by MDBNIU on Mar 14, 2008 12:56 PM CDT 0 recs
At this point, I agree with Raymond Chandler
The Cubs seem to have some problem with that last part, when it comes to Roberts.
by cwyers on
Mar 14, 2008 12:59 PM CDT
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I Think It's Best...
;-)
by initram on
Mar 14, 2008 1:34 PM CDT
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Gameday link
by berselius on Mar 14, 2008 1:49 PM CDT 0 recs
Thanks.
by Al on
Mar 14, 2008 6:25 PM CDT
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Why not Soto?
Scheduled day off?
by Gucci on Mar 14, 2008 3:03 PM CDT 0 recs
Good start
Sori doubles (rbi)
by ExNorthsider on Mar 14, 2008 3:15 PM CDT 0 recs
waitaminute
by cubsonWGN4ever on Mar 14, 2008 3:16 PM CDT 0 recs
I doubt it
by akcubfan on
Mar 14, 2008 3:20 PM CDT
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gameday
My kingdom for a (relatively decent) play by play.
by cubsonWGN4ever on
Mar 14, 2008 3:24 PM CDT
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I tuned in on the radio about half way
I think it went Theriot Walk, Sori double, not sure with Lee or Ramirez but it was 2-0 Cubs after they batted. Dome grounded into FC, Derosa and Cintron popped out.
by akcubfan on
Mar 14, 2008 3:26 PM CDT
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Love how Dome...
by dat cubfan daver on Mar 14, 2008 3:22 PM CDT 0 recs
Free Radio!!
HOORAY FOR FRIDAY!!
I was thinking about paying, too. Just gameday was getting on my nerves. I can't wait til all games are available on 720.
by section229beer on Mar 14, 2008 3:23 PM CDT 0 recs
Thanks
by gwood on
Mar 14, 2008 3:25 PM CDT
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aren't all ST games free?
by cubbieblue86 on
Mar 14, 2008 3:30 PM CDT
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I thought that, too.
The gamedayaudio is ~$40 for the season, but that ain't worth it for me for less than a month.
by section229beer on
Mar 14, 2008 3:36 PM CDT
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GamedayAudio = $15 for the season
by bluesweatergirl on
Mar 14, 2008 3:44 PM CDT
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Thanks for the legwork...
by section229beer on
Mar 14, 2008 3:46 PM CDT
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The reason it was free today....
by Al on
Mar 14, 2008 6:26 PM CDT
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Kotchman GB to Demp
by akcubfan on Mar 14, 2008 3:28 PM CDT 0 recs
Dempster
4-3
by ExNorthsider on Mar 14, 2008 3:31 PM CDT 0 recs
demp is definitely having a bad inning
by mike on Mar 14, 2008 3:31 PM CDT 0 recs
Dusty bats Corey P LEADOFF
by Hammer on Mar 14, 2008 3:33 PM CDT 0 recs
Not to sound blunt but....
by Jayo525 on
Mar 14, 2008 3:40 PM CDT
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Not to be blunt
Ha, I dont know why I care. Anything that is CUB even EX-CUB i tend to follow closely.
by Hammer on
Mar 14, 2008 3:49 PM CDT
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Dempster
With his lack of command, if he can't throw 90-92 consistently in any given start, he's going to get destroyed.
by ExNorthsider on Mar 14, 2008 3:33 PM CDT 0 recs
Decisions...
by Gucci on Mar 14, 2008 3:33 PM CDT 0 recs
If Dempster
by cubbieblue86 on Mar 14, 2008 3:33 PM CDT 0 recs
GOOD!!!!!
by Hammer on
Mar 14, 2008 3:34 PM CDT
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Good point
As for Dempster, I'm not really sure what to do with him. Would some other team take him as a Closer at this point? Could be a good move.
by ExNorthsider on
Mar 14, 2008 3:35 PM CDT
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I would think
by cubbieblue86 on
Mar 14, 2008 3:37 PM CDT
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Santana bunt to pitcher
by akcubfan on Mar 14, 2008 3:35 PM CDT 0 recs
I was supposed to be there
by cubstoseriesby100 on Mar 14, 2008 3:36 PM CDT 0 recs
Walk. Runners on first and second
by akcubfan on Mar 14, 2008 3:37 PM CDT 0 recs
and now another triple
by ExNorthsider on Mar 14, 2008 3:38 PM CDT 0 recs
I love toast.
by cubbieblue86 on
Mar 14, 2008 3:39 PM CDT
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Right
by cubstoseriesby100 on
Mar 14, 2008 3:40 PM CDT
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Well I agree
by Hammer on
Mar 14, 2008 3:41 PM CDT
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I know, i know
by cubbieblue86 on
Mar 14, 2008 3:44 PM CDT
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Actually Demp had a very good first inning
by akcubfan on
Mar 14, 2008 3:45 PM CDT
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right, but...
by cubbieblue86 on
Mar 14, 2008 3:46 PM CDT
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granted
by cubbieblue86 on
Mar 14, 2008 3:47 PM CDT
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Last week
A typical 4th or 5th starter in a season will pitch well about 2/3rds of the time at best.
by cubstoseriesby100 on
Mar 14, 2008 3:41 PM CDT
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True
by ExNorthsider on
Mar 14, 2008 3:42 PM CDT
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Huh
by Hammer on
Mar 14, 2008 3:43 PM CDT
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Still
by ExNorthsider on
Mar 14, 2008 3:46 PM CDT
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Stuff and performance are different things...
by SouthernCub on
Mar 14, 2008 3:59 PM CDT
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Stuff v. Command
So does having good "stuff" mean the pitches have good movement and velocity, and good "command" means the pitcher can throw strikes on the black of the plate?
It would be interesting to gather a list of pitchers who had good "stuff" and were able to gain "command" at some point in their career. Dempster is 30 or 31 years old-- he's been trying to gain command for a decade, so it's not too promising at this point.
by ExNorthsider on
Mar 14, 2008 4:04 PM CDT
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Basically.
by cwyers on
Mar 14, 2008 4:10 PM CDT
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Therefore
by Hammer on
Mar 14, 2008 4:12 PM CDT
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Pretty much...
In terms of guys who had good stuff and were eventually able to figure it out and gain command, Randy Johnson is pretty much the poster child for that.
by SouthernCub on
Mar 14, 2008 4:22 PM CDT
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In general...
by cwyers on
Mar 14, 2008 4:28 PM CDT
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Line drive triple to rightcenter
by akcubfan on Mar 14, 2008 3:38 PM CDT 0 recs


