OUT of Town Shirts
hello friends of bcb and mr. yellon:
The shirts are out, I am currently workin with usps to get an update as to what is going on, I will keep you all posted and even try and get tracking numbers to you all as soon as monday. Please know that this mishap is not azweber's mistake it is mine and for that I am truly sorry I understand how upset all of you are I will get this figured out but I am working on this as we speak.
thanks
les
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Thank you.
by Al on Mar 2, 2008 10:49 AM CST 0 recs
Glad to year from you Les
If things are too overwhelming, please just send them to one of us and we will be happy to distribute them.
by coral on Mar 2, 2008 1:15 PM CST 0 recs
Thanks for the post Les!
by Kinky Reggae on Mar 2, 2008 2:08 PM CST 0 recs
18 days since being mailed.
No one has received a shirt yet, no matter where they live. 18 days!!??
It does not add up. Would love to see a tracking #, but don't believe I ever will.
by Cubskingdom on
Mar 3, 2008 11:24 AM CST
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What happens is every
by Hammer on
Mar 3, 2008 11:42 AM CST
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My guess is
by Kinky Reggae on Mar 3, 2008 10:38 AM CST 0 recs
Are you walking these shirts to Chicago?
by Hammer on Mar 3, 2008 11:29 AM CST 0 recs
I mean really...
by Louie on Mar 3, 2008 11:50 AM CST 0 recs
These pins and needles
by Louie on Mar 3, 2008 2:24 PM CST 0 recs
I'm not sure what else to say except
by Kinky Reggae on Mar 3, 2008 2:38 PM CST 0 recs
It is 7:10 pm, and I don't see him dealing with it
He has not provided one tracking #, even though he was working on it "as we speak" last night.
Nothing has come in the mail, nothing has been returned in the mail to him, and no matter what state anyone lives in, no one has any mail to show for it.
I am not going to drag on with this for two more weeks.
If there is not some new information provided tonight, I willl demand my refund in the morning.
by Cubskingdom on
Mar 3, 2008 6:14 PM CST
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This is kind of annoying...
Sory but you yourself have been a full time job for me on top of trying to keep tabs on Chad.
I am so sick of this whole thing. And before you get mad at me for my response, keep in mind that for all your complaining, I have not only had to listen to it but arrange to order, receive, and get all MY shirts to the people who live here.
You go ahead and give me your address and I will get you a refund as soon as humanly possible.
by Kinky Reggae on
Mar 3, 2008 6:43 PM CST
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Perhaps...
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 6:20 PM CST 0 recs
This is
by Louie on Mar 3, 2008 6:37 PM CST 0 recs
Louie
Not sure what to say. This is why I have been hoping with all my heart that Chad perhaps was not straight up about when they were shipped and that the shirts are on the way.
This whole thing sucks freakin ass.
I may just send you my shirt that turned out to be a little small on me anyway. What size are you?
by Kinky Reggae on
Mar 3, 2008 6:45 PM CST
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It's allright
by Louie on
Mar 3, 2008 6:57 PM CST
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I hear ya
I will get you your shirt Louie. I hope everyone will get their shirts.
by Kinky Reggae on
Mar 3, 2008 7:08 PM CST
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"His friend at USPS"?
I think another email is called for.
Also, exactly where in Florida does Chad live? If there's anyone who lives nearby and would offer to pay him a visit, I think that would be called for at this time.
by Al on
Mar 3, 2008 7:10 PM CST
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Outstanding stuff
Why don't people just call Chad every 15 minutes or so. And if he doesn't answer, figure out which office at Franklin Templeton he works at (assuming he was telling the truth about working there) and start calling there first thing in the morning.
by Porfi on
Mar 3, 2008 7:16 PM CST
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There are three
Fort Lauderdale, Miami and St. Petersburg. Chad live in any of those cities?
by Jettero2112 on
Mar 3, 2008 8:20 PM CST
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Another thing...
by LT on
Mar 3, 2008 7:32 PM CST
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Well...
Let me know what I can do.
by Cribbs463 on
Mar 3, 2008 8:24 PM CST
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Check through ...
by Al on
Mar 3, 2008 8:25 PM CST
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Here is Chad's number:
Call often...
by Jettero2112 on
Mar 3, 2008 8:28 PM CST
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number
by Cribbs463 on
Mar 4, 2008 6:23 AM CST
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It's an Illinois cell number.
by Al on
Mar 4, 2008 8:09 AM CST
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ok
by mike on
Mar 4, 2008 10:38 AM CST
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I live in Florida..
by ams05g on
Mar 4, 2008 12:37 PM CST
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Actually....
by talkingcubs on
Mar 4, 2008 2:50 PM CST
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Actually
by LT on
Mar 4, 2008 3:50 PM CST
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Wow Al!
I will soon begin refunds Al. Except for cubskingdom who wants one tomorrow. I will take care of that end of things. Sorry to have to but oh well.
by Kinky Reggae on Mar 3, 2008 7:39 PM CST 0 recs
Thanks.
by Al on
Mar 3, 2008 7:49 PM CST
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At this point...
Come on, something just doesn't add up here. The slowest USPS service is I believe parcel post, which takes about 7 days.
If the shirts were destroyed in a fire, eaten by a dog, used as wall insulation, well, we'd be upset, but I'd rather have the truth than to have no closure and the continued stringing along that we have now. It has now been almost 3 months after the shirts were supposedly going out.
by anvilcrawler on
Mar 3, 2008 8:06 PM CST
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I agree Al
I am prepared to issue refunds though. I wish it could be the shirts (and maybe it will be someday since it will never make sense to me why someone would do this). I can say that I too have been pretty upset as of late.
by Kinky Reggae on
Mar 3, 2008 8:38 PM CST
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azweber9, it does not have to be done tomorrow
As others have posted, I am just at the end of my rope and do not want to encourage, days of Les, asking his friend at USPS or whatever. I have no problem with you, or how you have handled things thus far.
Les answers none of the e mails or voice mails I have sent him. He never picks up the phone no matter what time I call, and his stories just don't add up at all.
If he had one tracking #, he could check the status on line in about 30 seconds, not a friend at USPS will have some news for me in the morning.
Just needed to mark a day that I would not listen to any more stories. That day for me will be tomorrow.
I attended the "Chasing October" Project 3000 fundraiser screening in AZ. last Spring Training, bought a dozen Project 3000 bracelets at The Cubs Convention.
Thought the shirts would be a great gesture as well. Just leaves a bad taste in my mouth with Les's actions.
by Cubskingdom on
Mar 3, 2008 8:59 PM CST
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I can certainly appreciate this comment.
I suppose, after talking with Chad tonight, that I will be comfortable in giving this until Friday and then I will begin to get MO's to send back. As I told Al, I still have the whole list of addresses for thr OOT shirts. Hopefully it won't take but a couple days from then, for me to have them and mail them. Whatever is left I will donate.
I am TRULY sorry we trusted Chad and it may have come to this, but I promise to begin that immediately if Friday doesn't see any shirts.
For Louie, I would like to get him one somehow since he designed them and has waited this long too.
Is this an acceptable plan?
by Kinky Reggae on
Mar 3, 2008 9:05 PM CST
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I'd like my shirt but if I can't have that
I wish there was something that could be done. Is there some way to get authorities involved? Is there an anti-fraud something or another in Florida that can be contacted. What about FBI? Fraud across interstate lines is a biggie. Maybe with just the threat of it or having a cop stop by and question him would be enough to get the shirts sent out. Have him ship them all to me and I can have them in the mail less than 48 after I get them.
by Jettero2112 on
Mar 3, 2008 10:17 PM CST
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I appreciate that
by Kinky Reggae on
Mar 3, 2008 10:25 PM CST
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Chiming in...
Guys, you've been scammed. Why is it so hard to see? This guy is claiming that he mailed your shirts two and a half weeks ago... TWO AND A HALF WEEKS AGO! Come on, wake up and smell the coffee. You're not getting the shirt you paid for.
by kanderber on Mar 3, 2008 8:27 PM CST 0 recs
For once...
by Al on
Mar 3, 2008 8:41 PM CST
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But why?????
by Louie on
Mar 3, 2008 8:58 PM CST
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if we are asking why
why would the guy in florida agree to front the money for shipping the shirts in the first place?
why does it seem that azweber9 is the only person that can ever get a hold of chad (aka les)? has anyone actually talked to chad on the phone during this whole ordeal?
if you look through the countless threads on this there are a lot of questions and not a lot of answers, or at least, not a lot that make sense.
lets hope that there is a happy ending in here somewhere.
by circuitclout on
Mar 3, 2008 9:20 PM CST
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The answer to your questions
IIRC, there weren't that many people stepping up to take on some of this project.
This is why I chose to do the things that I have thus far.
by Kinky Reggae on
Mar 3, 2008 9:45 PM CST
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azweber, that's not really fair or true
orders shoulda been taken, and shipment arranged for, online. this is a blog for chrissakes; and it's the year 2008.
all that said, the entertainment provided by all these diaries and comments has been well worth $25.
by joeschmitt on
Mar 4, 2008 2:38 AM CST
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If by volunteering you mean
Advice was not really what I needed, I was not prepared to take on this entire project myself and Chad stepped up and volunteered to take on the biggest part, in my opinion, which was the OOT shipping.
So I do believe it is fair to state that I went with a person who felt he could shoulder this part of the project.
I'm sorry you don't like the way it was done. Too bad you didn't volunteer to take this project on. I do not do this for a living and approached this the way I saw fit. We sorted out the orders, we got the money done, and I completed every part of this project that I took on as quickly as I could. I was patient with the money and ALL of the criticism. Just an FYI, over 300 shirts were "spoken for" in our first diary to assess how many people wanted shirts and we ended up with 60 shirts.
So, I believe I have endured more than MY share of criticism and perhaps you can understand why now, I am starting to get frustrated with all of this.
I know you all spent your money, so did I. I want to get this figured out because of this and I am trying to do this as quickly as possible.
by Kinky Reggae on
Mar 4, 2008 8:11 AM CST
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Unbelievable
I ordered 3 shirts, one each for myself, my sister and my brother-in-law. Of course, what we really want is to finally see our BCB shirts, but if that doesn't happen don't worry about sending our refund -- just add the money to whatever is going to Project 3000.
Thanks, Adam.
Barb
by bjs on
Mar 4, 2008 8:28 AM CST
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Thank you Barb
Maybe what I will do is send the money back to everyone, donate the little from the shirts that I got to people, and then Al can set up a donation process where you all can donate.
It only seems fair that I send the money back.
You are nice to say what you said Barb.
by Kinky Reggae on
Mar 4, 2008 8:35 AM CST
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dude
Actually, I did, in an email to you dated October 10, 2007. I did not think it contained "critical comments" or "unnecessary input". And a lot of other people were volunteering to help or even take over the process to bring it into the 21st century.
I appreciate your efforts but the martyr thing doesn't fly here.
by joeschmitt on
Mar 4, 2008 11:39 AM CST
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You're not worth responding to...
Point is, you were NOWHERE to be found when the project initially got started.
So you know what you can do with you martyr comments don't you?
For people like you, who I DO in fact remember trying to be helpful (after the fact) I am not as concerned about your inconvenience. Sorry if you think I am playing a martyr...
I saw myself as soing everything I could possibly do to help resolve this matter. Save me your "helpful" insight.
And as for litigating, I was responding to the poster who seemed to be suggesting that I could be in some legal trouble.
by Kinky Reggae on
Mar 4, 2008 3:42 PM CST
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well, FWIW
by joeschmitt on
Mar 4, 2008 3:56 PM CST
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Well I certainly appreciate that.
by Kinky Reggae on
Mar 4, 2008 3:59 PM CST
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just to clarify
that's interesting
by circuitclout on
Mar 4, 2008 7:49 AM CST
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Yes 20 shirts, that did not cost 25$
Would you have sent him the money?
Why is this so confusing. I couldn't have him ship shirts he did not have. He agreed to ship out and then collect the money (when he presented a receipt nonetheless).
Look, I did this as organized as I could and this is what we got. I am glad I kept the money so I can now gove you refunds if the shirts don't come. It sucks but what could I have done differently? For the record, Al trusted him too. Does this make my mistake any more understandable?
by Kinky Reggae on
Mar 4, 2008 8:14 AM CST
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It does seem odd
And why would anyone (Les) agree to front the charges for shipping all those shirts with the hope of getting paid back by someone he doesn't know (a9)?
Something smells.....and it certainly appears to this outside observer (I sporadically come to this website) that azweber9 is not entirely the victim he paints himself as.
by gbs on
Mar 4, 2008 6:41 PM CST
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GIVE ME A FUCKIN BREAK!
KEEP YOUR FUCKIN INSIGHT TO YOURSELF! I am so fuckin sick of this shit! I wish this was one of you dealing with this shit so I could pile on my ignorant, obnoxious, self righteous BULLSHIT on your ass!
I wish I could apologize Al for my outburst but people like this are starting to really piss me OFF!
by Kinky Reggae on
Mar 4, 2008 6:46 PM CST
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KANDERBER
by Hammer on
Mar 4, 2008 8:23 PM CST
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Yeah as always, your an asshole.
by Kinky Reggae on
Mar 4, 2008 9:54 PM CST
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cmon guy
by joeschmitt on
Mar 4, 2008 7:30 PM CST
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BS. He has the right to reply
by Jettero2112 on
Mar 4, 2008 8:27 PM CST
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Yeah why don't you take your own advice?
You want to explain why you think I deserve to take this bullshit from you all when I am truly the only one working (with some help from Al) to get this figured out?
Seriously, you ask yourself that? Why is this right? If you were me, would you be a bit pissed that I was taking every chance to dump my shit on you?
And as always, Jettero, thanks for your help with these people!
by Kinky Reggae on
Mar 4, 2008 9:57 PM CST
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Hey outside observer
by love the ivy on
Mar 5, 2008 9:08 AM CST
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Well I don't know A9
At the very least it calls into serious question a9's judgement. I know I sure wouldn't trust him to make any important decisions or delegate any important tasks to.
by gbs on
Mar 5, 2008 11:17 AM CST
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Hey thanks for your support.
by Kinky Reggae on
Mar 5, 2008 12:59 PM CST
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Don't have an answer to "why"...
- Obviously he could wear them - have a nice little (almost) 3 week rotation going there. Would certainly cut down on the laundry loads.
- Could be he's a little league coach and Chico's Bail Bonds backed out at the last minute as a uniform sponsor.
- Maybe Barry Bonds caught wind of this, saw the Project 3000 connection and figured it was all about him (isn't it always?) and his quest for 3000 hits so he made an offer that Chad couldn't refuse.
- Here's one for the conspiracy theorists out there... maybe Chad is really Chris Young in disguise and he's getting back at Derrek for last season's fight.
http://cgi.ebay.com/BCB-GIRLS-BLACK-PUMPS-original-price-90_W0QQitemZ130201445225QQihZ003QQcategoryZ 63889QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Al, is there something you want to tell us?
by ballhawk on
Mar 3, 2008 10:49 PM CST
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haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaa
by cubsluver22 on
Mar 3, 2008 11:50 PM CST
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LOL
by Al on
Mar 4, 2008 3:59 AM CST
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Well....
A t-shirt! A t-shirt! My kingdom for my two t-shirts!
My email is alexandrinapvalenya@yahoo.com for my tracking number, just to make it easier, you know.
by Littlerock Rynofan on Mar 3, 2008 8:41 PM CST 0 recs


