Open Thread: Cubs vs. Mariners, Monday 3/3, 2:05 CT
While the media focuses on the first time Kosuke Fukudome and Ichiro Suzuki have played a game on the same major league field (yes, true: in Japan they played in different leagues, and Ichiro left NPB for the USA when Dome was in only his third NPB season, and they did play on the same team in 2006, for Japan in the World Baseball Classic), Cub fans should be focusing on Jon Lieber and Sean Marshall, who will both make their spring debuts this afternoon. Jarrod Washburn will throw for the Mariners.
Bruce Miles tells us that Aramis Ramirez will likely make his own Cactus League debut tomorrow, along with Daryle Ward, who's been out with a balky glute muscle (sore butt, if you want to be less technical).
Today's game is available through the MLB.com Mediacenter, though you won't hear any Cub announcers. Audio is through Seattle area radio station KOMO and video is via MLB.TV.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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No news on A-Fon?
Dan
Not a doctor but
by Kinky Reggae on Mar 3, 2008 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
Cubs go this-a-way
Cedeno, CF
Theriot, SS
Fukudome, RF
Murton, LF
Hoffpauir, 1B
Fox, DH
Figueroa, 2b
Cintron, 3B
K. Hill, C
Lieber, P
Ah...
re: Ah...
I await the results
what a waste
Right-handedness.
The fact that he's out of options, so he's probably a lock for a roster spot anyway.
So,
HA THATS FUNNYT
It's not a waste
Thanks Bruce
oops, I should read the diary a little closer
Cedeno in center?
Dan
Wait, we have
Thanks, Bruce
Those you with the Directv sports package...
by ryno HOF 2005 on Mar 3, 2008 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
Ramirez
Re: ...might play tomorrow...
Probably a foolish question...
EPatt's been a big...
game blackouts
I found this on the comcast chicago web page:
"Professional games will not be available on Comcast SportsNet. Due to professional league mandates, customers must also subscribe to MLB Extra Innings to see Chicago Cubs...for broadcasts outside the regional viewing area"
But, of course, that's not an option on Dish Network. It's awfully nice to have the leagues treat us fans so nicely, don't you think?
The usual idiocy.
That is bogus of them
by ryno HOF 2005 on Mar 3, 2008 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
still hopeful
So, I'm hoping that even if I can't watch the cubs on CSNCH, maybe I can catch them on some other channels. I guess that remains to be seen, since I won't be home during the game today.
That is a bummer.
by ryno HOF 2005 on Mar 3, 2008 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
You can't see it
by LT on Mar 3, 2008 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
blackouts suck
All this makes me wonder why comcast games would be black, but not WGN...
WGN is a national superstation
by LT on Mar 3, 2008 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
I must be
If you are a subscriber to the sports package...
by ryno HOF 2005 on Mar 3, 2008 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
We're all sick of talking about it, but...
I know you're all sick of talking about it, but I do have one question in all of this:
Has Derosa at SS been floated as a possibility?
I only ask because he seems to be better at the plate than Theriot, and while I like the idea of him being a supersub, I think our team would be better served having DeRosa more consistently in the lineup....I'm just not sure we're improving too much by taking him out and adding Roberts - I'd like to see BOTH in the lineup.
This has been discussed.
Okay...
If DeRosa can't do it (and are we sure he can't?) than what about Roberts playing SS? I think I'd sacrifice a little range/defense for more offense (particularly because our Soriano/Pie/Fukudome OF has the possibility of being one of the best OF defenses in baseball, and DLee makes a lot of guys in the infield look a lot better)....
Likewise
Cedeno is the only other option at SS. For that reason, I'd prefer to see Murton and not Cedeno go if there is a Roberts deal. If Theriot's September is the real Theriot, the Cubs need an alternative. Maybe Cedeno could be it.
re: Likewise
To be fair...
And when DeRosa has played SS in the past (full disclosure: by years since 2003 he has logged only 50, 83, 42, and 8 innings there), he's been better than "Gold Glover" Derek Jeter, for whatever that's worth.
re: This has been discussed.
Al
Riot has better range, but his arm is so weak that he has to play more shallow and he can't throw out guys even if he gets to balls in the hole.
What's the difference?
The question will be answered if Lou plays DeRo at SS some in ST.
Why does...
Mark DeRosa Career SS Fielding Stats...
G 138
PO 149
A 297
E 12
DP 66
FP .974
lgFP.970
RFg 3.23
lgRFg 3.97
Inn 813.7
His range is below league average, and his fielding percentage is pretty much average. He's not completely inept at SS, just not above average. The same thing can be said of our current SS Ryan "fancy cheeks" Theriot.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
Be realistic
I am not a Theriot fan but if DeRosa is the answer, it will not be a good year for the Cubs.
I'm not lobbying for him
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry, but I have to...
The jist is that the talks are heating up and that Jay Payton may be involved.
My question is this, why do the Cubs want Jay Payton? Would DeRosa get any at bats this year barring injury?
I am not opposed to a Roberts trade because of DeRosa, but I do feel that DeRosa is a valuable asset, and to block him at both 2B and the OF seems silly.
Obviously with ARam's health DeRosa has real value as a backup 3B, but he seems to be a pretty expensive player who will only back up 3B and 2B.
Payton would take the Fuld spot
If Roberts/Payton was acquired the five bench players would probably be Blanco (or other catcher), Ward, Payton, DeRosa and Cedeno (unless traded).
Forgot to add
I think Cintron
You are right
Blackouts and Direct TV/EI deals...
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 12:59 PM CST reply actions
FYI, audio link is working.
Whoever mentioned...
really?
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
Seems more grainy...
I just re-upped with...
by Damen Jackson on Mar 3, 2008 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
I think your right Al.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
You can always...
Silverlight
Also, there is a link at the top right that will allow you to switch to the old player. I think the quality issues have more to do with the 400k feed and the fact that these facilities probably lack the better equipment at actual MLB stadiums.
Volume control
Biggest pet peeve for me so far is the lack of a fullscreen option.
There's such an option...
Plus...
I'll stick with the original player.
Looks Like ESPN 1000...
Let Me Clarify...
That makes more sense.
Great
by lostinthevines on Mar 3, 2008 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
No they aren't.
by lostinthevines on Mar 3, 2008 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
Dome and Murton both reach base. Nice.
I cringed when I heard...
The things I like best...
That's exactly my...
MLB GAMEDAY SUUUUUUUUUUCKS!!!!!!
Observations
WHEN ?!?! is Jim Hendry going to acquire a desperately needed right-handed hitting outfielder who can help out in CF??? Ronny Cedeno out there is ridiculous.
How much more does Matt Murton need to be "showcased?" Lets move him for the benefit of figuring out our 25 man roster. And the benefit of Murton himself.
Two comments.
- Why is Cedeno "ridiculous"? What has he done bad out there so far?
- How do you know Hendry ISN'T trying to move Murton? It takes two willing partners to make a deal. Doesn't happen just because you snap your fingers and wish it so. Finally, Murton is obviously getting playing time right now because Soriano is out.
Well..
I simply do not understand why Murton is still here. Trade him for goodness sake.
And yes, I don't envision Ronny Cedeno being a suitable 4th outfielder option or Felie Pie's platoon mate in CF.
If you see things differently, then so be it.
So what do you suggest?
You have to remember...
I'll bet the O's have put in requests to see a few different guys over the next several days. I know Murton is not going to show much we haven't already seen, but that is the way the trade game is played.
Come on Al
As for Cedeno, I don't understand all the grief over the move either. It's spring training, why not give it a try? Cedeno is an athletic player. Maybe super-sub is his calling. Let's give it a try.
re: Come on Al
re: Observations
WHEN ?!? are you going to shut up?
Desperately?
by CubsBullsBears on Mar 3, 2008 2:35 PM CST up reply actions
Wow...
Great throw by Dome!!
Kosuke
As good as Ryan
by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
Koyie Hill, ladies and gentlemen!!!
What did he do?
by lostinthevines on Mar 3, 2008 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
Threw out a runner..
by Damen Jackson on Mar 3, 2008 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
Nice - thanks, Damen
by lostinthevines on Mar 3, 2008 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
Nice hustle by Ronnie.....
by Tangled Up In Blue on Mar 3, 2008 2:37 PM CST reply actions
He...
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
Cedeno's pattern
No sooner do you speak...
by Damen Jackson on Mar 3, 2008 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
re: No sooner do you speak...
Cedeno's pattern...
by Tangled Up In Blue on Mar 3, 2008 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
Despite the two runs...
Agreed...
by Damen Jackson on Mar 3, 2008 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
Sweet!
Score?
by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 2:53 PM CST reply actions
Thank You!
by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
Cedeno
And if we're trying to showcase him for the O's or something, double ugh.
Strongly agreed
ABSURD!
by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
Ronny
I completley agree that it is time for Ronny and the Cubs to part ways.
by Tangled Up In Blue on Mar 3, 2008 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
And just like that it's tied!
Can someone who has time
Volunteers?
by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
Uh...no..
by Damen Jackson on Mar 3, 2008 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks.
by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
gameday...
Kasey
I'll do a bit
Thanks, ak
Sometimes, or frequently with my connections, Gameday should be called "Yesterday's Game".
by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
End of Inning
GB double play to 3rd.
perennial minor leaguers
Fox could become a perennial minor leaguer, but he could also be a good PH/OF/1B bench guy if he plays well at Iowa this year.
Lieber
Wow...
Dice-K
Ball low and in
Ball low
Strike looking
Foul
Ball low and away
Ground ball fielders choice
re: Oops
trying to do 4 things at once
Murton ground ball
The Shark resurfaces.
Colvin in right field.
Ichiro
It sounded like...
One hop to 2nd
Ground ball to first
line drive down the line off 3rd basemans glove
Paging Bobby Dernier...
Remind me again...
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 3:34 PM CST reply actions
Cedeno line drive single to right-center
2 outs.
Ground out to short for...the other Blanco
Ground out to first
Ground out to second. 2 outs
Fly out to Right
Dang. How 'bout that Shark?
Could these MLB.TV announcers
I imagine you have the same announcers I do
They said
I guess you have different announcers
marshall
The Hoff
Nice late-inning offensive explosion.
Who is...
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 3:53 PM CST reply actions
Did Scott Williamson
by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
The Seattle radio guys...
They do put on a good broadcast.
2 fly outs so far.
Thanks again
You are much quicker than "Gameday" (although, we don't know WHICH day)
by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
Infield single
Somehow this whole gameday thing...
IN PLAY OUT(S)
For a better
by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
HAHA
re: HAHA
LMAO!!!
by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
Ground out to 2nd
Ground out to short
New pitcher for the Cubs
Single up the middle
Still don't know who's pitching.
Radio guys haven't mentioned...
Oh wait...
Hopper to Short
I didn't realize until now...
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 4:22 PM CST reply actions
re: I didn't realize until now...
B/C we have Ward
He is one of our few power guys in AAA that has a nice glove at 1B.
Perhaps September, unless he's traded.
by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
He's looked good today
Agreed.
by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
I Just Stumble Over This...
Download and install the TVUPlayer.
Go to channel 65318 "Cubs Live".
Voila!
You get the Cubs game!!
Looks Like There Is a 2-3 Minute Delay...
Fontenot (the guy that played with Theriot at LSU)
Howry in to pitch
Full count to some minor leaguer
Ground out to short
single to right
C'mon Bobby...
initram
1-2 count
Ball low 2-2
Foul Ball 2-2
Ball up and in 3-2
Single to right. Bases loaded...nope, ball bobbled in right. Runner scores. 6-4 Cubs.
Sigh...
Looper to rightcenter
Sounds like Colvin's not doin' too good.
This must be because...
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 4:50 PM CST reply actions
0-1 foul tip
Swinging K. Nice breaking pitch low and away.
0-1 Foul ball on a fastball
1-2 ball in the dirt low and away
2-2 high. Runner takes 2nd.
Especially against minor leaguers
Howry...
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 4:54 PM CST reply actions
And he's facing...
Take it easy...my humor is a little rough sometimes.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
I always dig your humour
by Hugest Canadian Cubs Fan on Mar 3, 2008 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
September?
Ba de ya - dancing in september
Ba de ya - golden dreams were shiny days!
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
4 hits through the first 8...
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 4:58 PM CST reply actions
I could just see ESPN's bottomline
LOL

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