Open Thread: Cubs vs. Mariners, Monday 3/3, 2:05 CT

by Al on Mar 3, 2008 10:50 AM CST in Game Threads Comment 246 comments

While the media focuses on the first time Kosuke Fukudome and Ichiro Suzuki have played a game on the same major league field (yes, true: in Japan they played in different leagues, and Ichiro left NPB for the USA when Dome was in only his third NPB season, and they did play on the same team in 2006, for Japan in the World Baseball Classic), Cub fans should be focusing on Jon Lieber and Sean Marshall, who will both make their spring debuts this afternoon. Jarrod Washburn will throw for the Mariners.

Bruce Miles tells us that Aramis Ramirez will likely make his own Cactus League debut tomorrow, along with Daryle Ward, who's been out with a balky glute muscle (sore butt, if you want to be less technical).

Today's game is available through the MLB.com Mediacenter, though you won't hear any Cub announcers. Audio is through Seattle area radio station KOMO and video is via MLB.TV.

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Discuss amongst yourselves.

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No news on A-Fon?

Can someone explain to me how a broken finger only puts a guy out for 3-5 days? I understand its his middle finger, but still...a broken bone is a broken bone, right?

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Mar 3, 2008 10:58 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Not a doctor but

it was a minor fracture and this I believe is the reason he won't be out for a long time. Though...I am guessing that 3-5 days is generous and for the benefit of the fans and the media.

MMMMM...Nutrisystem!

by Kinky Reggae on Mar 3, 2008 11:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Cubs go this-a-way

Cedeno, CF
Theriot, SS
Fukudome, RF
Murton, LF
Hoffpauir, 1B
Fox, DH
Figueroa, 2b
Cintron, 3B
K. Hill, C
Lieber, P

by Bruce Miles on Mar 3, 2008 11:17 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Ah...

... the great Cedeno-In-CF experiment begins.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 3, 2008 11:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

re: Ah...

Yup, this should be interesting. It should also be fun to see (well, hear in my case) Dome and Murton batting back-to-back.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 11:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I await the results

with not so bated breath.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Mar 3, 2008 12:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

what a waste

What does he offer in CF that we aren't better served letting Fuld get some more action?

"We're going to turn this team around 360 degrees." -Jason Kidd

by tony412 on Mar 3, 2008 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Right-handedness.

The ability to also play the middle infield.

The fact that he's out of options, so he's probably a lock for a roster spot anyway.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 3, 2008 12:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

So,

I take it Fuld has looked pretty bad in the OF?

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Mar 3, 2008 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

There's that too.

n/t

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 3, 2008 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

One play in one game

C'mon....

by dwm on Mar 3, 2008 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

HA THATS FUNNYT

Because isnt it ONE play in ONE game that has us talking about Sam Fuld to begin with? TOO MUCH IRONY MUST GO BACK TO WORK

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry "I strongly dislike Steve Stone." ---Hammer

by Hammer on Mar 3, 2008 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

It's not a waste

Cedeno has a lot more potential than Fuld. Of course, we'll see if he ever reaches it. However, Cedeno could be a very useful multi-position utility player. Fuld will never be anything more than a reserve outfielder.

by rlpete on Mar 3, 2008 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks Bruce

Still no ARam huh? What's the story with that, any word on when he is going to be available?

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Mar 3, 2008 11:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

oops, I should read the diary a little closer

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Mar 3, 2008 11:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Cedeno in center?

Why not Aramis behind the plate? He's got great, er, legs. And let's throw Alfonso at secon...wait a minute.

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Mar 3, 2008 11:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Wait, we have

A leadoff hitter with some power, some speed who can play second base?

"Kosuke draws a walk" is music to my ears.

by cubbybear on Mar 3, 2008 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks, Bruce

I always appreciate your insight.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Mar 3, 2008 12:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Those you with the Directv sports package...

...today's game can be seen on Fox Sports NW channel 651.

"Man, this is fun!" - Len Kasper

by ryno HOF 2005 on Mar 3, 2008 12:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Ramirez

Lou said yesterday he might play tomorrow.

by Bruce Miles on Mar 3, 2008 11:20 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Re: ...might play tomorrow...

As long as he doesn't sit on a cactus. Someone wrap him in bubble-wrap.

"Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem." Woody Allen

by BlueSox on Mar 3, 2008 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Probably a foolish question...

...but did Lou say anything of note regarding Eric Patterson after yesterday's game? I'm curious if he made an impression on anybody NOT in the Orioles organization.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 3, 2008 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

EPatt's been a big...

...mystery to me. Two years ago, it seemed the Cubs were REALLY HIGH on him. If that was true, then you don't go to the bottom of the barrel, or to trade bait, after one late appearance to The Show. What gives?! - TL

"Why shouldn't we believe that we're going to win the World Series?" - Ted Lilly, 1/19/2008, Daily Herald interview w/Barry Rozner

by timlacy on Mar 3, 2008 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

game blackouts

Yes, I know this game isn't on CSNCH today, but I mentioned in saturday's game thread that the game was blacked out in Birmingham, AL.

I found this on the comcast chicago web page:

"Professional games will not be available on Comcast SportsNet. Due to professional league mandates, customers must also subscribe to MLB Extra Innings to see Chicago Cubs...for broadcasts outside the regional viewing area"

But, of course, that's not an option on Dish Network. It's awfully nice to have the leagues treat us fans so nicely, don't you think?

by cpnkirk on Mar 3, 2008 12:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

The usual idiocy.

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 3, 2008 12:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That is bogus of them

I live in central Illinois and have Directv. Right now, I can watch the Braves vs. Mets and the Yanks vs. Houston. No blackouts here. Today's Cubs game is supposed to be on Fox Sports NW, channel 651. Seattle announcers.

"Man, this is fun!" - Len Kasper

by ryno HOF 2005 on Mar 3, 2008 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

still hopeful

on Friday night, the cardinals vs. Mets game was also black. However, on NESN, I was able to watch Red Sox vs Twins (well, until my son took over the TV to watch Dora...).

So, I'm hoping that even if I can't watch the cubs on CSNCH, maybe I can catch them on some other channels. I guess that remains to be seen, since I won't be home during the game today.

by cpnkirk on Mar 3, 2008 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That is a bummer.

I have to go to work at 3:30 CT myself.

"Man, this is fun!" - Len Kasper

by ryno HOF 2005 on Mar 3, 2008 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You can't see it

because you have Dish Network who doesn't offer MLB EI. Therefore, they have to blackout the baseball games on the sports tier. If you have Directv, they carry the EI package so they don't have to block out the spring games. They will be blacked out on Directv too when the season starts unless you pay for the service. At least thats the way it works about 3 or 4 years ago when I was still on Directv.

by LT on Mar 3, 2008 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

blackouts suck

So will all games be blacked out for those who don't subscribe to extra innings?

All this makes me wonder why comcast games would be black, but not WGN...

by cpnkirk on Mar 3, 2008 2:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

WGN is a national superstation

so you would get those games. They are not part of the Extra Innings package. The channels that are blacked out are considered regional so any outside of your area would be blacked out. These regional networks make up the Extra Innings package. You may need to take a class in MLB Blackouts 101 to understand this garbage...

by LT on Mar 3, 2008 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I must be

in the regional viewing area because I got the CSN games this weekend. I also have DirecTV so I'll be able to see the game this afternoon. :-)

by sue369 on Mar 3, 2008 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Do you subscribe to MLB Extra Inninngs?

n/t

by cpnkirk on Mar 3, 2008 2:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

No

by sue369 on Mar 3, 2008 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

anywhere

I can listen/watch the game for free?

by Rezze21 on Mar 3, 2008 12:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

If you are a subscriber to the sports package...

you should be able to watch the game, yes.

"Man, this is fun!" - Len Kasper

by ryno HOF 2005 on Mar 3, 2008 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

We're all sick of talking about it, but...

...Jon Heyman at SI.com says the talks between the Orioles and Cubs for Brian Roberts are heating up again.

I know you're all sick of talking about it, but I do have one question in all of this:

Has Derosa at SS been floated as a possibility?

I only ask because he seems to be better at the plate than Theriot, and while I like the idea of him being a supersub, I think our team would be better served having DeRosa more consistently in the lineup....I'm just not sure we're improving too much by taking him out and adding Roberts - I'd like to see BOTH in the lineup.

by Chadnudj on Mar 3, 2008 12:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

This has been discussed.

DeRosa doesn't have the range or the arm to be an everyday SS.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 3, 2008 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Okay...

...sorry for asking questions that may have been answered long ago (I don't have time to re-read everything).

If DeRosa can't do it (and are we sure he can't?) than what about Roberts playing SS? I think I'd sacrifice a little range/defense for more offense (particularly because our Soriano/Pie/Fukudome OF has the possibility of being one of the best OF defenses in baseball, and DLee makes a lot of guys in the infield look a lot better)....

by Chadnudj on Mar 3, 2008 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Likewise

Roberts has had arm surgery before. It's not likely that he has the arm to be a regular SS. Both he and DeRosa could play in a pinch but I don't expect either could be the regular SS.

Cedeno is the only other option at SS. For that reason, I'd prefer to see Murton and not Cedeno go if there is a Roberts deal. If Theriot's September is the real Theriot, the Cubs need an alternative. Maybe Cedeno could be it.

by rlpete on Mar 3, 2008 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

re: Likewise

Ah, OK. This answers my question above.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 1:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

To be fair...

...the exact same things are often said about Theriot.

And when DeRosa has played SS in the past (full disclosure: by years since 2003 he has logged only 50, 83, 42, and 8 innings there), he's been better than "Gold Glover" Derek Jeter, for whatever that's worth.

by Ayralin on Mar 3, 2008 1:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

re: This has been discussed.

The range thing I can see, but DeRo doesn't have the arm to be a shortstop? Doesn't he often sub at third base? Taking another tack, what about the idea of starting Roberts at shortstop and leaving DeRo at second? (Sweet sufferin' beelzebub, we're discussing the Brian Roberts trade again, aren't we? AGHHHHH!!!!)

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Al

The only reason you don't think DeRo has a SS arm is that you've been comparing him to Furcal. He has plenty of arm for SS. He doesn't have the greatest range, but with a high-K pitching staff it might not be that important.

Riot has better range, but his arm is so weak that he has to play more shallow and he can't throw out guys even if he gets to balls in the hole.

What's the difference?

The question will be answered if Lou plays DeRo at SS some in ST.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Mar 3, 2008 1:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Why does...

his adjustable rate mortgage matter? Let's judge his potential by his past performance shall we?

Mark DeRosa Career SS Fielding Stats...

G 138
PO 149
A 297
E 12
DP 66
FP .974
lgFP.970
RFg 3.23
lgRFg 3.97
Inn 813.7

His range is below league average, and his fielding percentage is pretty much average. He's not completely inept at SS, just not above average. The same thing can be said of our current SS Ryan "fancy cheeks" Theriot.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Be realistic

In the past four years, DeRosa played part of 35 games at SS. That's it. He has just turned 33. In all likelihood, he has slowed down/bulked up from when he was 26 or 27. He is not a realistic option at SS as a regular.

I am not a Theriot fan but if DeRosa is the answer, it will not be a good year for the Cubs.

by rlpete on Mar 3, 2008 2:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not lobbying for him

to play SS, I am just stating some basic facts. He's not the worst guy in the world to play the position, but he's not going to play there anyway. Unless there is some emergency or Lou get really drunk while he's filling out the lineup card.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry, but I have to...

So there is a "new" Roberts rumor floating out there now on SI, I won't even bother with a link.

The jist is that the talks are heating up and that Jay Payton may be involved.

My question is this, why do the Cubs want Jay Payton? Would DeRosa get any at bats this year barring injury?

I am not opposed to a Roberts trade because of DeRosa, but I do feel that DeRosa is a valuable asset, and to block him at both 2B and the OF seems silly.

Obviously with ARam's health DeRosa has real value as a backup 3B, but he seems to be a pretty expensive player who will only back up 3B and 2B.

Eamus Ursuli!

by WGNstatic on Mar 3, 2008 12:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Payton would take the Fuld spot

Payton can play center, DeRosa can't.

If Roberts/Payton was acquired the five bench players would probably be Blanco (or other catcher), Ward, Payton, DeRosa and Cedeno (unless traded).

by rlpete on Mar 3, 2008 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Forgot to add

in my prediction that I expect Murton would head to Baltimore if Payton is coming to Chicago.

by rlpete on Mar 3, 2008 1:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think Cintron

is destined to be the 25th man. Cedeno, and possibly Patterson, will be be gone in the Roberts trade. JMHO

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 3, 2008 1:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You are right

Cintron could be the 25th man instead of Cedeno. I don't see Patterson in the mix even if he stays as he doesn't have the versatility as a bench player.

by rlpete on Mar 3, 2008 1:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Blackouts and Direct TV/EI deals...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 12:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

LOL!!

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Mar 3, 2008 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

FYI, audio link is working.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 1:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Whoever mentioned...

... that the original MLB.TV mediaplayer is better than the Silverlight player, was right. Far superior.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 3, 2008 2:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

really?

I'm using the "silverlight" one and It seems Ok to me? What do you find to be the big difference?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Seems more grainy...

... and movement doesn't seem as fluid. Also, I can't get rid of the volume control on the screen, which on the original player is BELOW the screen.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 3, 2008 2:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I just re-upped with...

MLB.tv this morning, and that was the first thing that I noticed. Needs much work.

by Damen Jackson on Mar 3, 2008 2:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think your right Al.

If they could only incorporate the boxscore with the original player.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You can always...

... call up an additional screen with the boxscore on it.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 3, 2008 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Silverlight

You can pull up the boxscore and linescore by clicking on the appropriate links at below the video. The graphic that appears to be notes is the boxscore and the bat and ball is the linescore.

Also, there is a link at the top right that will allow you to switch to the old player. I think the quality issues have more to do with the 400k feed and the fact that these facilities probably lack the better equipment at actual MLB stadiums.

by imauis on Mar 3, 2008 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Volume control

Make sure your mouse isn't over the section of the browser where the video is displayed.

Biggest pet peeve for me so far is the lack of a fullscreen option.

by Ayralin on Mar 3, 2008 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

There's such an option...

... with the original player.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 3, 2008 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Plus...

... I just switched to the Silverlight, moved my mouse away from the screen portion, and the volume control slider was still there.

I'll stick with the original player.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 3, 2008 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Looks Like ESPN 1000...

... will also be broadcasting the game in the Chicagoland area.

Jacque Jones is gone and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!

by initram on Mar 3, 2008 2:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

It will?

How?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 3, 2008 2:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Let Me Clarify...

... they are broadcasting from the game - not the game. They will be giving updates every half inning or so, interviewing players (like Theriot), etc.

Jacque Jones is gone and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!

by initram on Mar 3, 2008 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That makes more sense.

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 3, 2008 2:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Great

Unfortunately you have to sit through the insufferable ESPN afternoon show.

"It's that wonderul relief that comes when they stop hitting you in the head with a hammer."

by lostinthevines on Mar 3, 2008 2:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

No they aren't.

"It's that wonderul relief that comes when they stop hitting you in the head with a hammer."

by lostinthevines on Mar 3, 2008 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Dome and Murton both reach base. Nice.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 2:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Dome...

... did a nice job beating that DP relay throw.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 3, 2008 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I cringed when I heard...

...that flyball was going to Cedeno but, evidently, he caught it. Nice quick inning for Lieber.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 2:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

The things I like best...

... about Jon Lieber: works fast, throws strikes.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 3, 2008 2:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Washburn

He's moving pretty fast, too. I might get to listen to the whole game before the workday is done.

by kranskie on Mar 3, 2008 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That's exactly my...

...memory of Lieber. If his health is good and his stamina is up there, I think he'll be good for us. - TL

"Why shouldn't we believe that we're going to win the World Series?" - Ted Lilly, 1/19/2008, Daily Herald interview w/Barry Rozner

by timlacy on Mar 3, 2008 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

MLB GAMEDAY SUUUUUUUUUUCKS!!!!!!

"It's that wonderul relief that comes when they stop hitting you in the head with a hammer."

by lostinthevines on Mar 3, 2008 2:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Observations

Jon Lieber is going to be a revelation for the Cubs. I feel very good about him in the #5 slot.

WHEN ?!?! is Jim Hendry going to acquire a desperately needed right-handed hitting outfielder who can help out in CF??? Ronny Cedeno out there is ridiculous.

How much more does Matt Murton need to be "showcased?" Lets move him for the benefit of figuring out our 25 man roster. And the benefit of Murton himself.

by MDBNIU on Mar 3, 2008 2:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Two comments.

Why is Cedeno "ridiculous"? What has he done bad out there so far?
How do you know Hendry ISN'T trying to move Murton? It takes two willing partners to make a deal. Doesn't happen just because you snap your fingers and wish it so. Finally, Murton is obviously getting playing time right now because Soriano is out.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 3, 2008 2:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Well..

It's spring training. This team is gearing up for what is hoped for will be a big season. Sorry, but I don't see the value in trotting a Matt Murton out there when it is the worst kept secret in baseball he won't be with your organization for too much longer. Murton is what he is, and him doing well in spring training games isn't enhancing his trade value to the degree the Cubs get something super-duper for him. Wouldn't you rather see Tyler Colvin or Sam Fuld get some spring training licks out there?
I simply do not understand why Murton is still here. Trade him for goodness sake.

And yes, I don't envision Ronny Cedeno being a suitable 4th outfielder option or Felie Pie's platoon mate in CF.

If you see things differently, then so be it.

by MDBNIU on Mar 3, 2008 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

So what do you suggest?

Again, a trade doesn't happen just because you wish it so. You didn't answer my question: What makes you think Hendry isn't trying to trade him?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 3, 2008 2:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You have to remember...

...many times the team you are trying to trade with may ask you to play certain guys so they can take one last look at them.

I'll bet the O's have put in requests to see a few different guys over the next several days. I know Murton is not going to show much we haven't already seen, but that is the way the trade game is played.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Mar 3, 2008 2:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Come on Al

Don't you know that all the GM's around baseball are just beating down Hendry's door to acquire Matt Murton. Hendry could have traded him 10 times in the past week but he just isn't doing his job. The 25 man roster needs to finalized by March 1st.

As for Cedeno, I don't understand all the grief over the move either. It's spring training, why not give it a try? Cedeno is an athletic player. Maybe super-sub is his calling. Let's give it a try.

by rlpete on Mar 3, 2008 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

re: Come on Al

This is my thought on Cedeno exactly. Maybe moving him out of the infield will help ease those mental lapses he's prone to.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 2:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

re: Observations

Why not give Cedeno a chance to play ridiculously before you label him ridiculous? Just an observation on your observation.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 2:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

WHEN ?!? are you going to shut up?

What's the rush? I'd much rather that Hendry did what was best for the ballclub, not whatever made the impatient among the fanbase happy. If taking more time makes a better club, what's the issue here?

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 3, 2008 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Desperately?

I don't know why the Cubs should be desperate to get a right-handed hitting outfielder for CF. Why don't we wait and see how Pie pans out through April and May? If June rolls around and Pie is really struggling against leftys, then we can look around. We are pretty solid right now, definitely NOT desperate.

"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano

by CubsBullsBears on Mar 3, 2008 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow...

...that sounded like a great catch and throw by Dome!

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 2:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

It was.

Nearly doubled the runner off first after a nice catch off the wall.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 3, 2008 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Great throw by Dome!!

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 3, 2008 2:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Kosuke

is a REAL good ballplayer. He is very fundamentally strong and, I think, will rapidly become a big fan favorite at Wrigley.

by MDBNIU on Mar 3, 2008 2:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Agreed.

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 3, 2008 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

As good as Ryan

Theriot?

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 2:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

Better, I'm thinking.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 3, 2008 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Koyie Hill, ladies and gentlemen!!!

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 2:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

What did he do?

"It's that wonderul relief that comes when they stop hitting you in the head with a hammer."

by lostinthevines on Mar 3, 2008 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Threw out a runner..

stealing second. Very strong throw.

by Damen Jackson on Mar 3, 2008 2:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Nice - thanks, Damen

"It's that wonderul relief that comes when they stop hitting you in the head with a hammer."

by lostinthevines on Mar 3, 2008 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Nice hustle by Ronnie.....

Just saying....

by Tangled Up In Blue on Mar 3, 2008 2:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

He...

over-slid the bag...again.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Cedeno's pattern

...is that of a fundamentally un-sound player. He is the anti-Kosuke in this regard. Hence another reason why I very leery of him being a suitable Plan B at shortstop and/or the RH platoon mate in CF this team needs.

by MDBNIU on Mar 3, 2008 2:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

No sooner do you speak...

everyone in the ballpark knew he was going to run on that 2-2 pitch. Dumb.

by Damen Jackson on Mar 3, 2008 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

re: No sooner do you speak...

Ronnie doesn't exactly help his own cause, does he?

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 2:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Cedeno's pattern...

I couldn't agree with you more. I don't think he is a suitable plan B or platoon player this team needs.

by Tangled Up In Blue on Mar 3, 2008 2:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Despite the two runs...

... I thought Lieber threw pretty well.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 3, 2008 2:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Agreed...

Breaking ball looked good. He hit his spots. Fastball looked at touch too hittable, but about what I'd expect at this point.

by Damen Jackson on Mar 3, 2008 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Sweet!

A rather sloppy inning ends rather neatly.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 2:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Score?

Anyone?

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 2:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

2-0 M's

by Tangled Up In Blue on Mar 3, 2008 2:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Thank You!

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 2:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Tied at 2.

by Tangled Up In Blue on Mar 3, 2008 2:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

2-2

by anormal on Mar 3, 2008 2:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

2-2 in the 4th..

n/t

by Damen Jackson on Mar 3, 2008 2:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Cedeno

appears to be none too smart. Ugh. He is definitely not the answer. It doesn't matter what the question might be.

And if we're trying to showcase him for the O's or something, double ugh.

"Just because you've had enough/ doesn't mean you wanted too much." -Dean Young

by Kegler on Mar 3, 2008 2:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Strongly agreed

I have seen enough of Ronny Cedeno since 2005 to know that I no longer want him on this ballclub. In any capacity. Apparently all of his talent and energy only stay local to the greater Des Moines area. Because everytime he gets a big league audition he looks terrible with the bat and solidly non-impressive in the field.

by MDBNIU on Mar 3, 2008 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

ABSURD!

What about his excellent work in the Venezuelan Winter League?!

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Ronny

Although, I wouldn't necassiraly agree that he has looked "terrible", I will agree that it seems that everytime Ronny gets an audition he struggles and when he is sent down he heats up.

I completley agree that it is time for Ronny and the Cubs to part ways.

by Tangled Up In Blue on Mar 3, 2008 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow. Sorry for the spelling...

by Tangled Up In Blue on Mar 3, 2008 3:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

And just like that it's tied!

Nice job, Cubs perennial minor leaguers!

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 2:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Can someone who has time

do a little batter by batter, play by play?

Volunteers?

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 2:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Uh...no..

you know GameDay is free, yes?

by Damen Jackson on Mar 3, 2008 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks.

My Gameday experience recently has been "less than stellar".

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

gameday...

is not allowed here at work

Kasey

See the Cubs 2008 schedule with TV schedule at http://ignarski.tripod.com/sched2008.html

by kaseyi on Mar 3, 2008 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'll do a bit

living in the NW I have the game on fox sports. It won't be every pitch but i'll give a few updates. So far Marshal has walked the first two batters. Pitches have all been right around the plate.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks, ak

That's great - when you have time.

Sometimes, or frequently with my connections, Gameday should be called "Yesterday's Game".

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

End of Inning

Swinging K
GB double play to 3rd.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

perennial minor leaguers

Hoffpauir's been around for awhile, but I like his work in recent years. He's probably my favorite minor leaguer right now.

Fox could become a perennial minor leaguer, but he could also be a good PH/OF/1B bench guy if he plays well at Iowa this year.

by kranskie on Mar 3, 2008 3:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Lieber

Call it silly call it goofy but I have a feeling when the book is closed on the 08 Cubs Jon Lieber will be on the good list.

We are all waiting for that glorious October night when we finally win it all. Until then we will continue to cheer, never do the wave and hope.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Mar 3, 2008 2:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

i agree

that seems like a smart low risk signing.

the opposite of the marquis contract.

Bill James Felix Pie 2008 Projection: .283/.333/.456 16 HR 21 SB

by kylejo on Mar 3, 2008 3:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow...

...another inning-ending GIDP for Marshall!

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 3:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

First pitch single

for Theriot

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Dice-K

Foul
Ball low and in
Ball low
Strike looking
Foul
Ball low and away
Ground ball fielders choice

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Oops

Fukudome.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

haha

but thanks for the detailed play-by-play!

by Mr Snrub on Mar 3, 2008 3:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

re: Oops

Awww man, I thought the Cubs had executed the sneakiest trade of the century!

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 3:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

trying to do 4 things at once

and doing all four poorly it seems:)

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Murton ground ball

off shortstop's glove to the 2nd baseman and still threw out Murton at first. Theriot held at 3rd

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Hoffpauir

swinging K

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Our favorite

ND receiver is now pitching

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

The Shark resurfaces.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 3:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Walked the first batter

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Colvin in right field.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 3:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Fly out to Fukudome

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Ichiro

Ground out to the pitcher...I can't spell his name so I won't even try

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

It sounded like...

...the Shark had some pretty decent stuff. Nice clean inning.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 3:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

One hop to 2nd

end of inning. Shark was hitting 92-93 on his fastball. Threw a few breaking pitches that looked pretty decent.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Double off the wall for

...Jake Fox

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Ground ball to first

Fox caught in rundown between 2nd and 3rd

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

line drive down the line off 3rd basemans glove

for Cintron. Last runner advanced to 2nd in rundown of Fox. Scored on Cintron's hit.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Cubs lead 3-2

by sue369 on Mar 3, 2008 3:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Ground ball to short

Cintron out at 3rd

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Paging Bobby Dernier...

...Bobby Dernier to the ER immediately, please.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 3:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Remind me again...

what we learned in little league about running on a ball hit in front of you?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 3:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Cedeno line drive single to right-center

runners at 1st and 3rd.
2 outs.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Ground out to short for...the other Blanco

end of inning

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Ground out to first

Samardzija covering first on the play.

Ground out to second. 2 outs

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Fly out to Right

end of inning. Threw 4 or 5 pitches total that inning.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Dang. How 'bout that Shark?

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 3:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Colvin

Fly out to center

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Kroger

Line drive single up the middle

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Could these MLB.TV announcers

know less about the Cubs?

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 3, 2008 3:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I imagine you have the same announcers I do

on fox sports. On my plays they don't even acknowledge who is up for the cubs.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

oops

most plays. not my plays

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

They said

Cedeno started at short last year until Theriot took over, and they said Fontenot will be a big part of the club this year. They did an interview Murton and asked him tons of questions about college and Georgia Tech (was that five years ago?) and didn't even ask him about what his role/position/team will be this year.

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 3, 2008 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I guess you have different announcers

Your's are clueless to the cubs and mine just don't acknowledge them at all.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

marshall

showing either why he should be in the rotation or why he will be in Baltimore..

Live is boring until March 31st strolls by..

by Chanman25 on Mar 3, 2008 3:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

The Hoff

Double down the line. Kroeger scores. 4-2 Cubs.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Pop up to 2nd

2 outs.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Fonty walks

by sue369 on Mar 3, 2008 3:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

McGhee

Line drive to Right. 2 Score. 6-2

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

6-2 Cubs!!!

by sue369 on Mar 3, 2008 3:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Nice late-inning offensive explosion.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 3:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Who is...

the pitcher for Seattle?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 3:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I think

some guy named Kahn.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Did Scott Williamson

drive over to the M's camp too?

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 4:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The Seattle radio guys...

...are actually pretty good -- even when they just interviewed Nick Lachey.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 3:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

They do put on a good broadcast.

Niehaus was the first announcer the Mariners hired when the team was formed and is still calling the games.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Fly out.

end of inning.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

2 fly outs so far.

one in foul territory, one to left.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Eyre is pitching this inning

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 3:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Thanks again

AK.

You are much quicker than "Gameday" (although, we don't know WHICH day)

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 4:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

No problem

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Stevie Eyre throwing well.

by Tangled Up In Blue on Mar 3, 2008 3:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Swinging K

1-2-3 inning

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Infield single

for Cedeno. High hopper to short.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Somehow this whole gameday thing...

...doesn't make the play by play nearly as exciting as Pat and Ron.

IN PLAY OUT(S)

An open invitation to visit Des Moines and watch the Iowa Cubs...

by IowaCubs- on Mar 3, 2008 4:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

For a better

user experience, perhaps each teams "homer" calls could be programmed in - Cubs Gameday would have "Outta HERE!" or "ALL-RIGHT"

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 4:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

HAHA

In Play (runs) followed by 4 lines of Ron's random yelling.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

re: HAHA

Yeah, everytime a Cubs player makes an error, you'd just hear an audio clip of Ron going, "Oh no!!!" or sighing in exasperation.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

LMAO!!!

THAT'S What I'm Talkin' About!!!

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 4:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Ground out to 2nd

Cedeno advances to 2nd. That was Blanco by the way.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

strike out

for an unidentified cubs batter

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Colvin I think

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Ground out to short

I think it was Kroeger. End of inning.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

New pitcher for the Cubs

Lets see how long it takes for the announcers to acknowledge who it is.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Single up the middle

for Miguel Cairo.

Still don't know who's pitching.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Radio guys haven't mentioned...

...the Cubs pitcher, either. Or if they did, I missed it.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 4:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Lehay is on the mound.

by Tangled Up In Blue on Mar 3, 2008 4:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Fly out to Center

No problems for Cedeno.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Oh wait...

...it's Lahey. They just said it.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 4:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Hopper to Short

got the out at 2nd. Just missed the turn at first.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Foul tip K

end of inning.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I didn't realize until now...

and it's doesn't mean anything...but our pitchers and defense are putting up a 3 hitter right now. That's not too shabby for a ST game.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 4:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

re: I didn't realize until now...

The scoreboard on my audio player says the Mariners have four hits. Nonetheless, your point stands -- we've seen/heard some solid pitching today.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 4:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The Hoff

Hard hit single by the 1st baseman

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

B/C we have Ward

Hoff-POWER will not get a chance, barring injury, with this squad (and I was loving him in ST last year too).

He is one of our few power guys in AAA that has a nice glove at 1B.

Perhaps September, unless he's traded.

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

He's looked good today

Ward was excellent off the bench last year though (aside from the first 2 months of the year). Its always tough to say how a guy like Hoff would do in that situation.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed.

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 3, 2008 4:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Fox

Pop out to second.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I Just Stumble Over This...

http://www.zeropaid.com/news/7694/TVU,+Free+P2P+Cable+TV

Download and install the TVUPlayer.

Go to channel 65318 "Cubs Live".

Voila!

You get the Cubs game!!

Jacque Jones is gone and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!

by initram on Mar 3, 2008 4:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Looks Like There Is a 2-3 Minute Delay...

Jacque Jones is gone and I doubt Ivan DeJesus would mind this!

by initram on Mar 3, 2008 4:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Fontenot (the guy that played with Theriot at LSU)

Fielders choice to 2nd.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Line out to 3rd for McGehee I think

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Howry in to pitch

I guess Lou wants to get him ready to pitch the 9th

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Full count to some minor leaguer

Mostly fast balls so far. 89-91 range...home run...no, double.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Ground out to short

nice throw by Blanco. Runner to 3rd.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

RBI single to right

6-3 cubs

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

single to right

runners on 1st and 2nd. One out.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

C'mon Bobby...

...send me home happy.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 4:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

anyone hear...

... the new Brian Roberts rumor?

(just kidding)

by Orval Overall on Mar 3, 2008 4:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Jeesh,

come on Bobby.

by sue369 on Mar 3, 2008 4:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

initram

How does that player work? Im not finding the Cubs game....

What was that White Sox fan? IT'S CALLED LOYALTY!

by EJThunder on Mar 3, 2008 4:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

1-2 count

Howry throwing some nice breaking balls now.

Ball low 2-2
Foul Ball 2-2
Ball up and in 3-2
Single to right. Bases loaded...nope, ball bobbled in right. Runner scores. 6-4 Cubs.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

crap

by sue369 on Mar 3, 2008 4:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Sigh...

...this is not good.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 4:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

no it's not :-(

by sue369 on Mar 3, 2008 4:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Looper to rightcenter

poor throw home. Runner scores 6-5 Cubs.

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Sounds like Colvin's not doin' too good.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 3, 2008 4:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Runners on 1st and 3rd

by akcubfan on Mar 3, 2008 4:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

This must be because...

it's not a "save" situation. After all...Bob-o thinks he can be the closer.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 4:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Welcome our 2008 closer...

Carlos Marmol!!

Old Style is the nectar of life.

by Mordecai on Mar 3, 2008 4:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

by Mordecai on Mar 3, 2008 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Howry...

Closing games like Mitch Williams will not endear you to the fans.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 4:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

It's March 3rd

n/t

by Orval Overall on Mar 3, 2008 5:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

And he's facing...

minor leaguers...and the pitchers are usually ahead of the hitters right now...

Take it easy...my humor is a little rough sometimes.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 5:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I always dig your humour

some people are wound a little too tight around here. Imagine what they'll be like in September!

They're not booing, they're saying FUUUUUUUUUUUKE!

by Hugest Canadian Cubs Fan on Mar 3, 2008 5:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

September?

Ba de ya - say do you remember
Ba de ya - dancing in september
Ba de ya - golden dreams were shiny days!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 5:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

4 hits through the first 8...

5 in the last one? I love this game.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 3, 2008 4:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I could just see ESPN's bottomline

Daryle Ward (butt) out for today's game.

LOL

"I guess you had some lean years, and didnt have to beat it hard" - Craig Sager

by Galvan316 on Mar 3, 2008 5:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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